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OAKLAND CA - SEPTEMBER 23:  Dallas Braden #51 of the Oakland Athletics throws out David Murphy of the Texas Rangers during a Major League Baseball game at the Oakland-Alameda County Coliseum on September 23 2010 in Oakland California.  (Photo by Jed Jacobsohn/Getty Images)

If the Texas Rangers thought they were going to waltz into Oakland and celebrate their first division title in over decade without breaking a sweat, they picked the wrong guy for a dance-off.

Dallas Braden threw one-hit ball in eight innings of work and struck out seven Rangers to earn his tenth victory of the season.  Make that 18 straight scoreless innings against Texas' robust lineup for Braden, and a league-leading 16 shutouts for Oakland.

Star-divide

The A's took advantage of a less-than-sharp Cliff Lee to give Braden more than enough run support under a full moon at the Coliseum.  Lee issued back-to-back walks for the first time all season, and they were leadoff batters to boot.  Both free pass recipients- Daric Barton and Kurt Suzuki- would go on to score; the former on a shattered-bat single by Jack Cust, the latter on a sac fly by Chris Carter.  The rookie battled back from an 0-2 count before driving home Suzuki on a 3-2 pitch to make it 2-0 A's in the mojo fourth.

One inning later, Oakland doubled its lead.  Steve Tolleson's smash down the third-base line drove home a flying Gabe Gross from first. It was Tolleson's first RBI of his career and his second two-bagger on the night, and he later scored on your standard 4-3-6 double play (Mark Ellis got caught in a rundown).

Exit Lee.  His replacement, Scott Feldman, fared no better.  Not at first anyway.  Matt Carson's double over the head of center-fielder David Murphy plated Carter, who had singled with one out in the sixth.  Yeah, I think the kid's going to be alright.  Carter, not Carson.

The A's would score no more, nor would they need to. Braden made sure of that.  He retired 19 straight from the last out in the first through the end of the seventh, the 19th out being recorded by a sprawling Gross in foul territory.  Not bad for a guy who didn't know he was starting until about an hour before game time (in place of Rajai Davis, who was scratched due to non-baseball related issues).

When Braden got into trouble after doing his best Lee-impression by walking the first two batters in the eighth, he reared back to keep the Rangers off the board.  With a little more help from his friends.  Defensive-replacement Cliff Pennington speared a ball off the bat of Murphy and made a nice throw to get the lead runner at third.  Having gotten the second out on a fly ball, Braden struck out A's-killer Taylor Teagarden to put an emphatic end to the inning, and as it turned out, his night.

And what a night it was.

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by mikev on Sep 23, 2010 9:56 PM PDT reply actions  

Add to it the fact that I have to login each time

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by Helloooo 1st on Sep 23, 2010 10:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

I am really not liking that at all

SBN needs to fix that bug immediately.

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by Flashfire on Sep 24, 2010 6:51 AM PDT up reply actions  

CLOCKWERKS, CLOCKWERKS, CLOCKWERKS!

(Does that still work?)

It's the fans that make the game fun. -- Rickey Henderson, July 26, 2009.

by Englishmajor on Sep 24, 2010 7:33 AM PDT up reply actions  

Who does that!?!??!

"By the end of the year, I'll have Dallas throwing right-handed'' -Ben Sheets

by mrod on Sep 24, 2010 3:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

Nice!

LOL!

"By the end of the year, I'll have Dallas throwing right-handed'' -Ben Sheets

by mrod on Sep 24, 2010 3:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

Love when Dallas brings it.

The funny thing about baseball is that people will believe what they want to believe. -Joe Posnanski 8/29/09

by pam5981 on Sep 23, 2010 10:08 PM PDT reply actions  

On my way home from the game

Got invited to sit in 123 row 1. Basically looking into the dugout and in the camera well. I was in heaven.

Besides good pitching Braden gave a clinic in pitchers fielding

by OaklandSi on Sep 23, 2010 10:10 PM PDT via mobile reply actions  

Ahhhh what could have been.....

this season. Just a little more offense…..not much. Just a little. No injury to Crisp to start? Who knows….but the pitching….the pitching indeed.

Billy?

"You may glory in a team triumphant, but you fall in love with a team in defeat."--The Boys of Summer

by alox on Sep 23, 2010 10:13 PM PDT reply actions  

yup

"... and A-Rod is forced to admit that Dallas got to the Hall of Fame before he did." - en

by FoolshGame22 on Sep 23, 2010 10:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

Dunno...

But I think Cust could be an integral factor in a lineup of at least mediocre hitters. Just two decent sticks.

"You may glory in a team triumphant, but you fall in love with a team in defeat."--The Boys of Summer

by alox on Sep 23, 2010 10:31 PM PDT up reply actions  

I say 2 more wins right there...

AN: Where you will be an A's fan or Dallas Braden will show you the repercussions of your actions.

by stranahanahan on Sep 24, 2010 12:32 AM PDT up reply actions  

Hope it isn't Ziggy's game that is the difference...

but, I’m rooting for Bobby to throw a perfect game tomorrow!

"... and A-Rod is forced to admit that Dallas got to the Hall of Fame before he did." - en

by FoolshGame22 on Sep 23, 2010 10:17 PM PDT reply actions  

Braden and Ziggy 1 hit the Rangers

Though Ziggy was doing it wrong… Seriously it seems that Ziggy is faltering. I like the guy. The A’s might want to rest him up and check out his arm.

by Ran on Sep 23, 2010 10:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

He does one thing and he does it pretty well.

He pitches to righties. When you trot him out there to work an entire inning or two entire innings, you get what you pay for.

"I wasn't able to extend so I had a serious lack of extension."--Dallas Braden

by StJosephBurningTheOakTreesToTheGround on Sep 23, 2010 11:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

He's allowed runs in 3 appearances since the AS break.

A's Fan in Sweden

"Some of us know him as the a-hole who piled into Ray Fosse in an All-Star game (it's why Ray is the way he is folks)" - OptimistPrime

by travdog6 on Sep 24, 2010 12:07 AM PDT up reply actions  

Christ

Look at how he’s done since the ASB, and one bad game means he’s faltering again?

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by Flashfire on Sep 24, 2010 6:52 AM PDT up reply actions  

You're right I'm wrong

I only paid attention to the last two games where he gave up two runs on the 22nd and hit a guy on the 23rd. He has held quite a few teams to no runs over most of his innings otherwise. I got it wrong.

by Ran on Sep 24, 2010 3:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

S'cool

And the other thing is for about a month there, it was more like he hardly got used at all relative to how Geren would run him out there so often before.

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by Flashfire on Sep 24, 2010 3:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

There's truth to both viewpoints on Zig.

He really is being used inappropriately, and I haven’t felt like he’s looked great even in a lot of those outings in which he’s been successful. Geren needs to understand who Zig is right now and what he can be used effectively to do. He has other relievers. It’s inexcusable to be trotting Zig out there for two innings at a time and expecting anything to happen other than what ended up happening on the 22nd.

On a related note, his overuse of Breslow is getting disgusting. No damned reason at all to have Breslow up in the pen when you’re leading 5-0.

"I wasn't able to extend so I had a serious lack of extension."--Dallas Braden

by StJosephBurningTheOakTreesToTheGround on Sep 24, 2010 3:50 PM PDT up reply actions  

Ziggy's release point, and thus command,

has been pretty spotty for a while, even in outings where he’s been successful. I think he can regroup and be good again but I wouldn’t say he’s been great this season at all.

I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal

by Nico on Sep 24, 2010 5:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

I would say that he's letting himself get behind in counts

But recently he has still performed overall very well and gotten his signature double plays when we desperately needed them. So I’m not too worried about it.

by Billy Frijoles on Sep 24, 2010 9:55 AM PDT up reply actions  

key point

even though he looked a little shaky he didn’t give up hits or a run. But most importantly, he was able to close it out without having Breslow come in (he was getting warmed up).

There are still three games left in this series, and we’ve got a depleted bullpen! Why was Breslow even getting warmed up in a 5-0 game?

by 29th on Sep 24, 2010 10:09 AM PDT up reply actions  

This will be Braden's next tattoo

And as Kate Longworth said, “This is a PG rated show”

AN: Where you will be an A's fan or Dallas Braden will show you the repercussions of your actions.

by stranahanahan on Sep 24, 2010 12:31 AM PDT up reply actions  

The "height=" command wants to be your friend.

You might want to make his acquaintance.

The meaning of life is not so much 'found,' as it is 'made.' --Opus

by The Dogfather on Sep 24, 2010 3:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

Rajai

 @susanslusser Susan Slusser
Davis confirms “non-baseball related condition” without specifics. Should be OK for tomorrow he says.

by 29th on Sep 23, 2010 10:37 PM PDT up reply actions  

Euphamism...

for hangover. Rajai got laid. Does that count as a Rajai run?

"You may glory in a team triumphant, but you fall in love with a team in defeat."--The Boys of Summer

by alox on Sep 23, 2010 10:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

I doubt it

Everything we’ve ever heard about Rajai is that he’s a model player, who works his socks off in training.

by Shed on Sep 23, 2010 10:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

Traning to get laid!

AYOOOOOOOOO!
Boom! Pow!

AN: Where you will be an A's fan or Dallas Braden will show you the repercussions of your actions.

by stranahanahan on Sep 24, 2010 12:28 AM PDT up reply actions  

yeah, I always had the impression that he’s a pretty religious and morally upstanding guy. isn’t his intro song some kind of christian rap song?

by 29th on Sep 23, 2010 10:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah, well...

The only bad thing about Christianity is that it relies on human beings for converts. I don’t much care. JC himself preferred the party crowd over the self rightous pricks of his day. I know why. Because them more things change, the more they stay the same.

"You may glory in a team triumphant, but you fall in love with a team in defeat."--The Boys of Summer

by alox on Sep 23, 2010 10:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

Damn, my spelling sucks.

To much beer.

"You may glory in a team triumphant, but you fall in love with a team in defeat."--The Boys of Summer

by alox on Sep 23, 2010 10:50 PM PDT up reply actions  

probably best not to start about the things wrong with Christianity

a lot of people would really not like me lol

Pam liked my old sig better.

by mikev on Sep 23, 2010 10:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

Eh, there's nothing wrong with Christianity...

if the self professing pricks would actually read the book. There ARE instructions.

"You may glory in a team triumphant, but you fall in love with a team in defeat."--The Boys of Summer

by alox on Sep 23, 2010 10:53 PM PDT up reply actions  

I'm not going to continue this conversation lol

Let’s just say I don’t really agree with that.

Pam liked my old sig better.

by mikev on Sep 23, 2010 10:56 PM PDT up reply actions  

Discretion and all...

but tonight I just don’t give a rip. I love everything The Man had to say. And never once did He say I should do anything to push my agenda on another living soul. You either will, or you will not. Dude was talking to me about what I should do, not what I should compel others to do. And what’s more, I could take my self justification and shove it up my ass…..“Vengence is Mine”…and all that. The holy brethren seem not to understand what that means.

"You may glory in a team triumphant, but you fall in love with a team in defeat."--The Boys of Summer

by alox on Sep 23, 2010 11:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

ok.

Pam liked my old sig better.

by mikev on Sep 23, 2010 11:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

;)

I’m far from orthodox these days. Guess I’m really hung up on the notion that it’s never right to screw another human being over. Eh, the holy rollers I know avoid me when they can. So at least they have that going for them.

"You may glory in a team triumphant, but you fall in love with a team in defeat."--The Boys of Summer

by alox on Sep 23, 2010 11:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

He says with visible distress...

AN: Where you will be an A's fan or Dallas Braden will show you the repercussions of your actions.

by stranahanahan on Sep 24, 2010 12:30 AM PDT up reply actions  

Sounds like Applebee's to me.

He prefers not to go into specifics not because it’s some mysterious secret, but just because who wants to say, “yeah, during BP I had what I thought was going to be a fart, but then it wasn’t, so then…”

There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, Than are dreamt of in your philosophy.

by iglew on Sep 24, 2010 12:37 PM PDT up reply actions  

No applebees, ever

weak drinks, and lousy food.
not cheap either.

by MobiusKlein on Sep 24, 2010 2:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

We should take Crawford there this offseason.

A's Fan in Sweden

"Some of us know him as the a-hole who piled into Ray Fosse in an All-Star game (it's why Ray is the way he is folks)" - OptimistPrime

by travdog6 on Sep 25, 2010 5:06 AM PDT up reply actions  

Now THIS is an awesome way to kick off a recap in style.
If the Texas Rangers thought they were going to waltz into Oakland and celebrate their first division title in over decade without breaking a sweat, they picked the wrong guy for a dance-off.

by danmerqury on Sep 23, 2010 10:39 PM PDT reply actions  

yes

67M as always shows why he’s better than most so-called professional journalists. There must be a way to get this man paid for this. 67M is a pro.

by Billy Frijoles on Sep 24, 2010 9:58 AM PDT up reply actions  

Absolutely

AN: Where you will be an A's fan or Dallas Braden will show you the repercussions of your actions.

by stranahanahan on Sep 24, 2010 11:04 AM PDT up reply actions  

Great time at the ballpark

Nice weather, hanging with Dr. Pez and a couple of colleagues from KPFA. Fun all around. Carter is starting to look good, though every time the ball is hit to him it feels like an adventure. We cracked up when realizing that the A’s outfield was missing its top four players - Crisp, Sweeney, Jackson, Davis. The shot to Cliff Pennington, by the way, was an amazing play, as was one by Braden.

Braden’s a fookin’ bulldog.

by richwol1 on Sep 23, 2010 11:49 PM PDT reply actions  

I really do think he would be a little better offensively if he got regular playing time.

Maybe not equal to Jackson, but Jackson isn’t so hot himself. Gross could be close enough to as good as Jackson, with obviously better defense, that it would make sense to hold onto Gross and jettison Jackson.

"I wasn't able to extend so I had a serious lack of extension."--Dallas Braden

by StJosephBurningTheOakTreesToTheGround on Sep 24, 2010 3:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

Unrelated, but...

Huston Street on Carlos Gonzalez: “I firmly believe he’s the same player then as now. I think the Rockies are utilizing him the right way. In Oakland, it was a seven-man merry-go-round in the outfield, and he was just one of the horses. I don’t think they gave him a fair chance to succeed over there. He played sporadically against left-handers, and evidenced by how he’s hitting lefties now, you’d say that’s a mistake.” Fair enough. We all know Bob Geren believes we too much in platooning based on splits. Huston’s only saying what everybody already knows about Bob Geren: he’s an idiot who doesn’t understand baseball.

But wait, there’s more: “Truthfully, I’m thankful. If not for Carlos Gonzalez, I wouldn’t be a Colorado Rockie. If Carlos Gonzalez were not available for Matt Holliday, I’d probably be sitting in Oakland rotting.”

Fuck you Huston.

"I wasn't able to extend so I had a serious lack of extension."--Dallas Braden

by StJosephBurningTheOakTreesToTheGround on Sep 24, 2010 12:11 AM PDT reply actions  

Wow, what the dick Huston?!?

Have fun trying to replicate your by-far best year of 2006 when you played for the- what the dickhole?!? you were pitching for who?!? It can’t be, can it???
That’s right you dumbass melonfoller.
You were an Oakland Dickletic.

I’m drunk.

AN: Where you will be an A's fan or Dallas Braden will show you the repercussions of your actions.

by stranahanahan on Sep 24, 2010 12:27 AM PDT up reply actions  

To funny

  The rockie fans still don’t like him for choking in the playoffs. Street has always been a me player.

by Arcman on Sep 24, 2010 1:50 AM PDT up reply actions  

Street was going to be traded somewhere regardless

And I don’t blame him for being pissed. He was a fantastic closer who was treated by crap because Geren clearly just didn’t like him.

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by thejd44 on Sep 24, 2010 6:46 AM PDT up reply actions  

How did Geren treat him like crap?

A's Fan in Sweden

"Some of us know him as the a-hole who piled into Ray Fosse in an All-Star game (it's why Ray is the way he is folks)" - OptimistPrime

by travdog6 on Sep 24, 2010 8:05 AM PDT up reply actions  

you mean

how did Geren treat him more crappily than he treats every other closer?

by MobiusKlein on Sep 24, 2010 9:02 AM PDT up reply actions  

No, I seriously don't remember anything about the Geren/Street relationship.

I just remember not really liking Huston that much.

A's Fan in Sweden

"Some of us know him as the a-hole who piled into Ray Fosse in an All-Star game (it's why Ray is the way he is folks)" - OptimistPrime

by travdog6 on Sep 24, 2010 9:06 AM PDT up reply actions  

Actually, as it turns out, there's quite a bit of bad blood there.

I didn’t realize that. Geren apparently just kept giving him the closer job and taking it away again on the slightest whims. At one point, after he lost the closer job, I guess they got into a shouting match.

"I wasn't able to extend so I had a serious lack of extension."--Dallas Braden

by StJosephBurningTheOakTreesToTheGround on Sep 24, 2010 9:58 AM PDT up reply actions  

Gotcha

I remember him losing the job, not the shouting match though. To be honest though, I think he deserved to lose the job when he did.

A's Fan in Sweden

"Some of us know him as the a-hole who piled into Ray Fosse in an All-Star game (it's why Ray is the way he is folks)" - OptimistPrime

by travdog6 on Sep 24, 2010 10:12 AM PDT up reply actions  

He also got better again.

Obviously you don’t put him in front of Zig, and Bailey ended up doing so well that it made sense to deal him when his value was high, but in terms of how Geren (and, I would suspect, Beane) treated him, the A’s should have done better by him.

"I wasn't able to extend so I had a serious lack of extension."--Dallas Braden

by StJosephBurningTheOakTreesToTheGround on Sep 24, 2010 3:53 PM PDT up reply actions  

Bailey didn't prove himself until after Street was gone.

Choosy Feebas choose Leopold Bloom nipples

Daring. Sensual. Invigorating. Squirrel.
BLOOM. For men.

If the eggs actually hatch I made more than a mistake, I made some scientifically impossible crime.

by DMOAS on Sep 24, 2010 6:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

STREAT WAS HOLDING HIM BACK!!!!!!111

I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal

by Nico on Sep 24, 2010 6:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

Agree.

Street pitched himself out of the closer’s job and didn’t want to take ownership of his failures. Prick.

I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal

by Nico on Sep 24, 2010 5:53 PM PDT up reply actions  

see Crosby, Bobby

Curse of the Rookie of the Year?

by MobiusKlein on Sep 24, 2010 5:55 PM PDT up reply actions  

I'm sure he was hiding an injury.

"Nah, you look like Elijah Wood." - danmerqury

by OldhamA on Sep 24, 2010 6:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

he was a closer with a 3+ era over the last 3 years in oakland

he SHOULDN"T have been the closer. you must remember ziggy came in and had 30+ innings of shutout ball and nearly 40 innings of no earned runs.

street was fantastic at times and shaky other times. after ziggy devine came along and now bailey who i feel MUCH more comfortale with

by heartstopper on Sep 24, 2010 12:19 PM PDT up reply actions  

As is often the case, his effectiveness was usually directly impacted by whether or not he was pitching hurt

We could go on all day about how if he didn’t feel right he should’ve said something but pro athletes simply don’t do this.

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by Flashfire on Sep 24, 2010 12:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

well... except for manny

but thats just manny being manny

besides… it was over multiple years so that excuse only goes so far. and if you don’t say anything then get pulled then say “but i was hurt” then that is on you (street) too

btw… didn’t the As draft or sign his younger brother

by heartstopper on Sep 24, 2010 12:49 PM PDT up reply actions  

he might be rotting but only because we have a better closer

actually that should be closerS… bailey, devine when he is back… even wuertz i think is more valuable than huston street right now

by heartstopper on Sep 24, 2010 12:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

Oh, Huston, you hurt me.

I understand his bitterness, though. 2008 wasn’t the best year for him, as far as relationships with the A’s management go.

by whiteshoes40 on Sep 24, 2010 2:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

Huston Street was treated badly by management

As time goes on, it’s becoming clearer and clearer that Billly Beane is an autocrat and it’s his way or the highway. He’d rather have a simp like Bob Geren in charge than a manager with real skills. Players who publicly get pissed off get traded, and it seems pretty clear lately, as opposed to the days when he’d pick up a Jose Guillen or Milton Bradley, two players who were undervalued because they were difficult personalities, that he wants players who will never second-guess or have minds of their own.

If Beane runs true to form, he’ll trade Dallas Braden in the off-season.

by richwol1 on Sep 24, 2010 2:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

You bitter, bitter man.

Rotting behind a real closer? Yeah you probably would, Huston. Captain of the Blown Save.

"Nah, you look like Elijah Wood." - danmerqury

by OldhamA on Sep 24, 2010 2:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

Can you say

cocktease motherf*ckers?!?

I’m drunk.

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by stranahanahan on Sep 24, 2010 12:23 AM PDT reply actions  

Again

My roommate, not me….
Sorry guys!

AN: Where you will be an A's fan or Dallas Braden will show you the repercussions of your actions.

by stranahanahan on Sep 24, 2010 11:05 AM PDT up reply actions  

Giants fan unfortunately

Took over my computer last night….

AN: Where you will be an A's fan or Dallas Braden will show you the repercussions of your actions.

by stranahanahan on Sep 24, 2010 1:53 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah, I'm not buying it.

"Nah, you look like Elijah Wood." - danmerqury

by OldhamA on Sep 24, 2010 2:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

Didja, uh, lose the time, Mr. Vale?

The meaning of life is not so much 'found,' as it is 'made.' --Opus

by The Dogfather on Sep 24, 2010 3:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

You know the odds are long when

you beat the only team ahead of you and the odds of making the playoffs get longer.

Before the Texas game 0.3% chance
After the Texas game 0.2% chance

time is just running out.

by robertmelvin on Sep 24, 2010 12:52 AM PDT reply actions  

that's an indication of a bad algorithm.

I would expect the probability to roughly double.

EG, if there are 5 games left, and you’re down by 5, odds of making it are ~ 1/ 2^10, if winning is 50/50.
Both teams have to play out winning every game / losing every game.
After winning & losing on game 5, the odds would be 1/2^8, or 4 times more.
but in this case, winning / losing probabilities are correlated, so would only be a *2 improvement.

by MobiusKlein on Sep 24, 2010 7:50 AM PDT up reply actions  

Bad algorithm?

They use w-l record as a factor.

by danmerqury on Sep 24, 2010 9:10 AM PDT up reply actions  

yes!

well, I should have said an imperfect algorithm.

It should be monotonically increasing with every win by A’s, and with every loss by Rangers.

The fact that it wasn’t indicates a flaw – but it’s probably an artifact of small sample size in long shot chances.

if you randomly play out the season 1000 times, the difference between .3% and .2% is one instance.

by MobiusKlein on Sep 24, 2010 10:19 AM PDT up reply actions  

I would think you're right,

but what if the fact that we’re seven out with ten to play really does outweigh the fact that yesterday we were eight out with eleven to play?

"I wasn't able to extend so I had a serious lack of extension."--Dallas Braden

by StJosephBurningTheOakTreesToTheGround on Sep 24, 2010 10:00 AM PDT up reply actions  

It's nigh impossible for the probability to go down

consider the 4 possible outcomes (pretend we were not playing the Rangers)
A’s W R’s L : 7 out 10 to play P-win = p1
A’s W R’s W : 8 out 10 to play P-win = p2
A’s L R’s L : 8 out 10 to play P-win = p3
A’s L R’ W : 9 out 10 to play P-win = p4

p0 is probability of winning before that game

p1 should be higher than p2, p3, or p4 since it’s a smaller gap to make up.
if p1 is smaller that p0, some of p2, p3, or p4 must be larger than p0.

I’d guess more likely that the percents were estimated with a Monte-Carlo random simulation, and just got fewer items randomly in the last simulation than the first.

by MobiusKlein on Sep 24, 2010 10:15 AM PDT up reply actions  

I checked BBP, and it almost doubled there. Though their percentage is lower than the % from wherever you got it.

http://www.baseballprospectus.com/statistics/ps_odds.php

AL West      W    L    Pct3  Avg W  Avg L  Champions  Wild Card   Playoffs   1D Change 7D Change
Rangers      84   68   .541   89.8   72.2   99.84582     .00000   99.84582    -0.06446  -0.08113
Athletics    77   75   .531   82.4   79.6     .15072     .00000     .15072      .06494    .09267
Angels       75   77   .462   79.4   82.6     .00347     .00000     .00347    -0.00046  -0.01153
Mariners     58   94   .438   61.9  100.1     .00000     .00000     .00000      .00000    .00000

by LoneStranger on Sep 24, 2010 11:38 AM PDT up reply actions  

percents I used was from thread parent.

not sure where robertmelvin got them.

.15% seems about right.

nearly 1/512, or the odd of flipping a coin 9 times and getting heads each time.

by MobiusKlein on Sep 24, 2010 11:50 AM PDT up reply actions  

I watch the BP calculation every day.

It did indeed go up. It was 0.09% before the game, and now it’s 0.15%.

It doesn’t always get updated promptly, so you have to look at the time stamp. If you just go to the page after the game, you might be looking at a calculation from before the game. Maybe that’s how robertmelvin got wrong numbers. Or maybe he’s looking at a completely different source.

There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, Than are dreamt of in your philosophy.

by iglew on Sep 24, 2010 12:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

hmm

.0015 = 1/666
OH
MH
GOD!
We have A chance in hell of making it. But only one.

by MobiusKlein on Sep 24, 2010 2:13 PM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

Flipping a coin 9 times and getting heads each time?

Almost makes it seem likely.

"I wasn't able to extend so I had a serious lack of extension."--Dallas Braden

by StJosephBurningTheOakTreesToTheGround on Sep 24, 2010 4:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

No coincidence there.

Between our games and Texas’s, nine games is about how many we need to go our way to win the division. And all of them are close to 50% chance.

If you think getting nine coin flips in a row is likely, well, that explains your perception of the A’s odds. It’s pretty much the exact same concept.

There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, Than are dreamt of in your philosophy.

by iglew on Sep 24, 2010 5:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

I was being facetious.

"I wasn't able to extend so I had a serious lack of extension."--Dallas Braden

by StJosephBurningTheOakTreesToTheGround on Sep 24, 2010 5:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

Well, you know how to find a lucky penny, right?

Take 1000 pennies, flip them all.
Sequester those that come up heads.
Repeat 8 more times.

The pennies left are bound to be lucky pennies that come up heads, right?

by MobiusKlein on Sep 24, 2010 5:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

Bayesian statistics says yes.

And if there weren’t a solid prior assumption that all pennies are assured of being evenly balanced to begin with, Bayesian statistics would have a perfectly valid point.

There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, Than are dreamt of in your philosophy.

by iglew on Sep 24, 2010 11:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

big concerns

  Ryan Sweeney other knee not doing well. You know he is no long term player to sign.

by Arcman on Sep 24, 2010 1:52 AM PDT reply actions  

Just thinking about Sweeney today

…while watching Swisher take his .291/.364/.515 against the Rays. I miss that boy.

by BaltimoreAN on Sep 24, 2010 4:20 AM PDT up reply actions  

I like Gio Gonzalez...

And Sweeney had a good year last year.

I’m still not convinced we lost that trade. Plus… we still have another pitcher from that trade ready to make a splash.

by Brett Narloch on Sep 24, 2010 12:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

It was a great trade,

but I still want Swisher back.

There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, Than are dreamt of in your philosophy.

by iglew on Sep 24, 2010 12:46 PM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

not concerned

"The ego, the super-ego, and the Ed" - dannycakes

by Future Ed on Sep 24, 2010 6:44 AM PDT up reply actions  

if he intends to have a chance at a long mlb career

he should stop vacillating and get the operation on the other knee as soon as possible. He already knows – and has known for years – that both knees are problematic.

Chavvy vacillated for several years on the shoulder surgery, which probably contributed to his back problems.

by OaklandSi on Sep 24, 2010 9:12 AM PDT up reply actions  

I thought he DID get surgery on both knees?

Am I remembering this incorrectly?

The funny thing about baseball is that people will believe what they want to believe. -Joe Posnanski 8/29/09

by pam5981 on Sep 24, 2010 9:31 AM PDT up reply actions  

Only one so far

Was going to wait to see if the other absolutely needed surgery.

"Their batters are patient to the point that it's annoying." -Ryan Franklin

by Helloooo 1st on Sep 24, 2010 9:38 AM PDT up reply actions  

Oh. I'm crazy.

The funny thing about baseball is that people will believe what they want to believe. -Joe Posnanski 8/29/09

by pam5981 on Sep 24, 2010 9:44 AM PDT up reply actions  

In my defense, so do I.

The funny thing about baseball is that people will believe what they want to believe. -Joe Posnanski 8/29/09

by pam5981 on Sep 24, 2010 9:49 AM PDT up reply actions  

the site keeps logging me out, I think it maybe is trying to tell me something

What a performance by Braden, when we get some stix in here his 21-2 career when getting 3+ runs of support may account for a lot more wins for him. Carter is starting to look like a real presence in the box after look like a ghost in his first 33 PAs… this is good. This win = most wins ever for a Geren A’s team… 4 more for a .500 season and 5 more for his first winning one. That will make him a Happy Clown I am sure, it works for me.

If we can do 83-79, that’s, what? 8 more wins than last year. You improve another 8 next year and you’re at 91 and you’re in the postseason with the chance to do damage.

Silence s'il vous plait!! Vous ne voyez pas que je suis en train de se masturber?!?

by emperor nobody on Sep 24, 2010 2:06 AM PDT reply actions  

Go away EN! -AN

It’s doing that to everybody though. Annoying.

A's Fan in Sweden

"Some of us know him as the a-hole who piled into Ray Fosse in an All-Star game (it's why Ray is the way he is folks)" - OptimistPrime

by travdog6 on Sep 24, 2010 3:34 AM PDT up reply actions  

I got to log in again this morning

Dear SBNation,

Please stop making AN so new and improved that no one can actually participate.
Thanks.

grover

The monster at the end of this blog.

by grover on Sep 24, 2010 7:35 AM PDT up reply actions  

You should print this out -- you can, you know!

I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal

by Nico on Sep 24, 2010 7:55 AM PDT up reply actions  

For once, this particular technical glitch seems to be passing me by

"We don't want our people to be preoccupied with seminude, crazy men jumping up and down who are chasing an inflated object," said Sheik Mohamed Osman Arus, head of operations for the Hizbul Islam insurgent group.

by PaulThomas on Sep 24, 2010 8:44 AM PDT up reply actions  

me too

i am using firefox at home, chrome at wrk

"The ego, the super-ego, and the Ed" - dannycakes

by Future Ed on Sep 24, 2010 12:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

I also print every posting and put them in a three ring binder

so I am happy about that new feature, but, si, come on, that comment caused me to have to print a new one.

"The ego, the super-ego, and the Ed" - dannycakes

by Future Ed on Sep 24, 2010 1:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

So somebody else does it too.

Good, I thought I was alone there.

"Nah, you look like Elijah Wood." - danmerqury

by OldhamA on Sep 24, 2010 2:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

7 games out with 10 to play

Too bad we can’t play all 10 vs. the Rangers… they look and feel like a beaten bunch right now.

by Colorado Fan on Sep 24, 2010 8:14 AM PDT reply actions  

Meh.

For the sake of argument, let’s say we sweep in Texas. That leaves us four games out with seven to play.

The Rangers haven’t done particularly well lately against either the Angels or the Mariners. In the Seattle series, they go Wilson vs. Pauley, Lee vs. Hernandez, Hunter vs. Vargas. The Mariners could take two of those, although it sucks that the Hernandez game is against Lee. Meanwhile, during the same stretch, we go Anderson vs. Santana, Braden vs. Haren, Cramer vs. Pineiro. That’s sweep-able. I don’t think it’s absurd to say that the A’s could go 3-0 while the Rangers go 1-2. That leaves us two games back with four to play. (I think my money right now is saying that going into the final series of the season, we’re between two and four games back.)

We’re playing well right now and the Rangers aren’t. There’s a very good chance we go 3-1 or 4-0 in this current series, and a very good chance that we pick up two games in the following series. All of which is to say, there’s a very good chance that the final series, Rangers vs. Angels, Mariners vs. A’s, decides everything. If we can get to two games back before that series, I’d say a sweep is good enough to almost certainly tie. The Rangers won’t do better than splitting that series: Holland-Kazmir, Lewis-Weaver, Wilson-Santana, Lee-Haren. Meanwhile, our pitching matchups look like Gonzalez-Fister, Cahill-French, Anderson-Pauley, Braden-Hernandez. Obviously the last game will be the toughest, but our chances at the playoffs are getting better with every win.

"I wasn't able to extend so I had a serious lack of extension."--Dallas Braden

by StJosephBurningTheOakTreesToTheGround on Sep 24, 2010 10:17 AM PDT up reply actions  

I'm still waiting for us to get over the 7 GB hump

Every time we get to this point, we cannot make it 6.
Tonight is the night.

AN: Where you will be an A's fan or Dallas Braden will show you the repercussions of your actions.

by stranahanahan on Sep 24, 2010 11:10 AM PDT up reply actions  

So basically the A's can only lose 1 more game the rest of the way?

"We were shit, pathetic," Guillen growled early in spring training. "We hit too many home runs."

by lenscrafters on Sep 24, 2010 11:19 AM PDT up reply actions  

unless the rangers win 0

"The ego, the super-ego, and the Ed" - dannycakes

by Future Ed on Sep 24, 2010 12:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

Pretty much. And it needs to not be to the Rangers, preferably.

And the Rangers need to all but lose out.

"I wasn't able to extend so I had a serious lack of extension."--Dallas Braden

by StJosephBurningTheOakTreesToTheGround on Sep 24, 2010 4:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

ooh...braden-hernandez

Just got chills…that should be a fun matchup.

by Billy Frijoles on Sep 24, 2010 11:45 AM PDT up reply actions  

Those might not be the matchups. I went in order of how the rotations have been going recently, since none of the AL West teams have a day off between now and Game 162.

It’s certainly possible that if the Rangers’ lead drops significantly, Wash might try to tinker with his rotation, float someone out there on three days’ rest or something, and God knows Geren is a lunatic with his pitchers, but that’s what the matchups look like from this point.

"I wasn't able to extend so I had a serious lack of extension."--Dallas Braden

by StJosephBurningTheOakTreesToTheGround on Sep 24, 2010 4:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

The problem with your reasoning here

is you just aren’t accounting for what happens to probabilities when they are multiplied.

You say, “for the sake of argument, let’s say we sweep Texas”. OK, let’s put a number on that. Say, 60% chance we sweep Texas. That’s optimistic, but let’s go with it.

Now you say “I don’t think it’s absurd” that the A’s would go 3-0 against the Angels, and Texas goes 1-2 against the Mariners. Not absurd. OK, let’s say another 60% chance that we sweep the Angels, and 75% chance that Texas wins no more than 1 game against the Mariners. Again, both are optimistic, but let’s go with it.

Multiply them up and you’ve got 60% x 60% x 75% = 27%. Now you say “there’s a very good chance” that the final series decides everything. No, it’s 27% chance that the final series decides everything, which is not very good. And that’s with wildly optimistic projections about the series leading up to it, because in actual fact it’s NOT 60% likely that we sweep Texas and it’s NOT 60% likely that we sweep the Angels.

Finally, you say “our chances at the playoffs are getting better with every win”. Now that we’re playing Texas, that is true. Every time we win and Texas loses, our chances do indeed increase. On nights when we win and Texas also wins, our chances go down.

There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, Than are dreamt of in your philosophy.

by iglew on Sep 24, 2010 1:06 PM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

This.

"We were shit, pathetic," Guillen growled early in spring training. "We hit too many home runs."

by lenscrafters on Sep 24, 2010 2:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

Oh yeah, I know it's improbable.

But it’s possible.

"I wasn't able to extend so I had a serious lack of extension."--Dallas Braden

by StJosephBurningTheOakTreesToTheGround on Sep 24, 2010 3:56 PM PDT up reply actions  

Pretty much what my heart would look like right now if it had a face.

And let’s not forget, things turned out OK for that dude in that movie.

"I wasn't able to extend so I had a serious lack of extension."--Dallas Braden

by StJosephBurningTheOakTreesToTheGround on Sep 24, 2010 4:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

Or, more extreme basics

If we go 10-0 we close out the season at 87 wins
If Texas goes 2-8 we win, if they go 3-7 we tie.

We can also go 9-1 if Texas goes 2-8 that will tie us.

by PL78 on Sep 24, 2010 4:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

If Texas goes 0-10, we can go 7-3 to tie.

But even as schlumpy as they look right now, I don’t know if a trillion-game losing streak is really in the cards for them.

"I wasn't able to extend so I had a serious lack of extension."--Dallas Braden

by StJosephBurningTheOakTreesToTheGround on Sep 24, 2010 4:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

So what happened to the newest guy with the incredibly long name?

In case you’re still lurking around, making a poorly thought-out post about next year’s team, then defending it to the point of being stupid when challenged, then calling out grover in a game thread – these are ways to guarantee that your AN experience will be less than optimal.

I also see his post is gone. Good – he gave us Aggies a bad name.

Now there's nothing left to say, so let's go drink beer.

by doctorK on Sep 24, 2010 8:17 AM PDT reply actions  

He called me out during a game thread?

Newbies…

The monster at the end of this blog.

by grover on Sep 24, 2010 5:56 PM PDT up reply actions  

Twice.

It was fun.

The funny thing about baseball is that people will believe what they want to believe. -Joe Posnanski 8/29/09

by pam5981 on Sep 24, 2010 6:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

I issued him a "warning" about that crap, but didn't outright ban

He may have just decided to go away.

I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal

by Nico on Sep 24, 2010 6:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

aw, that's sad.

The funny thing about baseball is that people will believe what they want to believe. -Joe Posnanski 8/29/09

by pam5981 on Sep 24, 2010 6:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

Or not. I didn't ban him.

I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal

by Nico on Sep 24, 2010 6:28 PM PDT up reply actions  

Can I???

Pam liked my old sig better.

by mikev on Sep 24, 2010 6:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

Also, can he change the tagline???

The funny thing about baseball is that people will believe what they want to believe. -Joe Posnanski 8/29/09

by pam5981 on Sep 24, 2010 6:31 PM PDT up reply actions  

THIS.

Pam liked my old sig better.

by mikev on Sep 24, 2010 6:31 PM PDT up reply actions  

Sure.

I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal

by Nico on Sep 24, 2010 6:31 PM PDT up reply actions  

uhoh

The funny thing about baseball is that people will believe what they want to believe. -Joe Posnanski 8/29/09

by pam5981 on Sep 24, 2010 6:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

Uh o--

{banned}

I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal

by Nico on Sep 24, 2010 6:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

No, but I'll change the tagline to:
Athletics Nation: SLOtoUCDavisA’sKings805andBacktoSLO, go away. Sincerely, mikev.

by danmerqury on Sep 24, 2010 6:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

Fine.
Athletics Nation: SLOtoUCDavisA’sKings805andBacktoSLO, go fuck yourself. Away from here. Sincerely, mikev.

by danmerqury on Sep 24, 2010 6:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

better

Pam liked my old sig better.

by mikev on Sep 24, 2010 6:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

I keep seeing "Suzuki gets 200th hit"

and I keep thinking “Kurt only has 200 career hits?”

A's Fan in Sweden

"Some of us know him as the a-hole who piled into Ray Fosse in an All-Star game (it's why Ray is the way he is folks)" - OptimistPrime

by travdog6 on Sep 24, 2010 8:25 AM PDT reply actions  

Saturday's game picked up by FOX I see

Either mild interest in the race or possible Rangers clincher…

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by Hit4TheCycle on Sep 24, 2010 9:36 AM PDT reply actions  

I wonder if it will be dropped if the A's win tonight

since an A’s win tonight 100% means the Rangers CAN’T clinch Saturday.

Needs moar dingerz.

by Blicks on Sep 24, 2010 12:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

Probably not

Since it already moved the Reds Padres game to 6pm.

The FairWeather Channel - Sports Comics and Bandwagon Forecast

by Hit4TheCycle on Sep 24, 2010 12:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

Not doubting ya...

…but can you tell me where you saw/heard that? Everywhere I look its still Reds/Pads

by BigJ7489 on Sep 24, 2010 12:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

Cool

I hope they air it out this way too…Fresno affiliate’s still got the Pads and so does KTVU. Grr.

by BigJ7489 on Sep 24, 2010 1:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

the Rangers' Fox affiliate decided to pick it up

because they are expecting to clinch on Saturday.

There was an MLB article about this yesterday. The Rangers’ website also linked the article

by OaklandSi on Sep 24, 2010 1:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

SF Chronicle lists the A's game on TV tomorrow...

…so does the A’s website, if you bring up the September schedule.

by Dr Pez on Sep 24, 2010 1:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

Is Saturday game afternoon or evening?

If it’s evening, I’ll miss it whether it’s on TV or not. :-(

There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, Than are dreamt of in your philosophy.

by iglew on Sep 24, 2010 2:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

Cool. I can catch at least part of it.

In theory I’m supposed to be somewhere at 3:00, but it goes all evening, so I could be late.

There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, Than are dreamt of in your philosophy.

by iglew on Sep 24, 2010 5:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

Don't let Tejas win.

I don’t want there to be the slightest possibility of me being in attendance for their clincher on Saturday. By the way, has the game time been changed for Saturday due to the TV coverage?

"I wasn't able to extend so I had a serious lack of extension."--Dallas Braden

by StJosephBurningTheOakTreesToTheGround on Sep 24, 2010 4:28 PM PDT up reply actions  

Anyone going on Saturday and Sunday?

"I wasn't able to extend so I had a serious lack of extension."--Dallas Braden

by StJosephBurningTheOakTreesToTheGround on Sep 24, 2010 4:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

I would try to bleacher it up tonight, but I'm going to Opera at the Ballpark in SF.

I’ll be there with bells on for Saturday and Sunday though. In fact, if anyone’s looking, I might have an extra bleacher ticket for Saturday and two extra bleacher tickets for Sunday.

"I wasn't able to extend so I had a serious lack of extension."--Dallas Braden

by StJosephBurningTheOakTreesToTheGround on Sep 24, 2010 4:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

I was invited to the Opera at the Ballpark

but it conflicts with the A’s vs Texas

by OaklandSi on Sep 24, 2010 4:33 PM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

I'm going tonight, Saturday, and Sunday

My tickets are in the bleachers for all three, but if it’s really hot tomorrow and Sunday I may have to migrate.

It's the fans that make the game fun. -- Rickey Henderson, July 26, 2009.

by Englishmajor on Sep 24, 2010 4:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

QUESTION: Is Dallas Braden better than I think?

Why is he pitching like Cliff Lee this year? Can anyone on AN write why or why not he might keep up his upward trend of being awesome? That would be a solid read, it really blows my mind how good he has been this year, totally unexpected. I thought he was a back end of the rotation guy, but apparently he’s an ace now? Either way this can only mean good things for the A’s, stoked on that/him this year and Im crossing my fingers he keeps it up.

by PL78 on Sep 24, 2010 3:24 PM PDT reply actions  

That could be an interesting thing to look into.

But I guess the combination of great control, a devastating changeup, and a pitcher who knows how to add and subtract really make for a great pitcher.

by danmerqury on Sep 24, 2010 3:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

can't discount that he fields his position quite well

he made some plays look easy that lots of pitchers wouldn’t have made

by OaklandSi on Sep 24, 2010 4:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

This too.

UZR doesn’t do pitchers, but Dewan +/- has him at +6 on the year, which is tied for 7th in the majors. Interestingly, Cahill is tied for 2nd with +8.

by danmerqury on Sep 24, 2010 4:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

He's not a groundball pitcher.

He’s a flyball pitcher. This year he’s actually added some groundballs, but throughout his career, he’s strongly been on the flyball side.

by danmerqury on Sep 24, 2010 4:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

I guess the hope is that he continues to get more guys to hit it on the ground.

Really, what we’re talking about here is a series of improvement trends that he’s exhibited this year. If they’re the result of good work, they might continue, or at least stay in place.

"I wasn't able to extend so I had a serious lack of extension."--Dallas Braden

by StJosephBurningTheOakTreesToTheGround on Sep 24, 2010 4:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

Cahill? Erm, the stats lie then.

"Nah, you look like Elijah Wood." - danmerqury

by OldhamA on Sep 24, 2010 4:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

Oh, Cahill?

Never mind. He’s definitely a groundball pitcher. Braden, though, isn’t.

by danmerqury on Sep 24, 2010 4:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

It seems like the huge dropoff in speed between his change and fastball, coupled with apparently at-will adding/subtracting, are making him way more fearsome than he should be.

By the way, what are the numbers on the rest of the rotation’s speed differential? When I’ve been at the games watching the stadium gun, Gio’s speed change has looked almost as good as Braden’s, at least in the early innings.

"I wasn't able to extend so I had a serious lack of extension."--Dallas Braden

by StJosephBurningTheOakTreesToTheGround on Sep 24, 2010 4:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

Wow, I never noticed that before.

Gio’s four-seam fastball is at 92. His change is 82. That’s a nice speed differential. I mean, it’s not Braden with his 15 mph difference, but no one else has 15.

by danmerqury on Sep 24, 2010 4:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

I assume that's an average?

In early innings, it looks more like 12-13, although that is the stadium gun talking.

"I wasn't able to extend so I had a serious lack of extension."--Dallas Braden

by StJosephBurningTheOakTreesToTheGround on Sep 24, 2010 4:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

That's an average, from PitchFX.

Of course, Gio’s curve is slower than that, in the high 70s.

by danmerqury on Sep 24, 2010 4:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

I don't suppose PitchFX shows an inning-by-inning average?

I’m still curious to see how big his differential would be in the first three or four innings of games as opposed to later on. The curve may account for some of what I’m seeing, since sometimes when the A’s are on defense and nobody’s on (happens a lot) I just stare at the gun for awhile and don’t always check out the action on the pitch. But there’s also a lot of times when it’s looked like a change and the speed differential is pretty high.

"I wasn't able to extend so I had a serious lack of extension."--Dallas Braden

by StJosephBurningTheOakTreesToTheGround on Sep 24, 2010 4:25 PM PDT up reply actions  

Nah, to do an inning-by-inning average, you'd have to compile the data manually.

As far as I know, neither Fangraphs nor Brooks Baseball do season-long inning-by-inning velocity charts. It’d be interesting to see, though.

by danmerqury on Sep 24, 2010 4:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

Sounds like a lazy Sunday project.

"I wasn't able to extend so I had a serious lack of extension."--Dallas Braden

by StJosephBurningTheOakTreesToTheGround on Sep 24, 2010 4:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

I like how you just volunteered him.

The funny thing about baseball is that people will believe what they want to believe. -Joe Posnanski 8/29/09

by pam5981 on Sep 24, 2010 4:49 PM PDT up reply actions  

I wasn't volunteering him.

I was volunteering me.

"I wasn't able to extend so I had a serious lack of extension."--Dallas Braden

by StJosephBurningTheOakTreesToTheGround on Sep 24, 2010 5:50 PM PDT up reply actions  

I know I know.

The funny thing about baseball is that people will believe what they want to believe. -Joe Posnanski 8/29/09

by pam5981 on Sep 24, 2010 6:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

Didn't mean "you" personally.

Me, actually. But if someone else wanted to do it, that’d be cool to.

by danmerqury on Sep 24, 2010 6:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

change in speeds are probably more important than top speed being so high

as they say, velocity, location and movement are the important factors in pitching, with velocity being the least important of the three.

by OaklandSi on Sep 24, 2010 4:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

He's got that Jamie Moyer thing going on.

Lots of control and quite a bit of guile to go with it.

I think there’s some luck mixed in this year, but a lot of it’s for real.

There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, Than are dreamt of in your philosophy.

by iglew on Sep 24, 2010 5:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

Braden is a great example of what the phrase

“He controls bat speed” means. Hitters are early on his changeup, late on his fastball, and uncomfortable about both.

As far as what he does “better than you notice,” I’d start with “fastball command” and add that confidence, aka “bulldog mentality,” allows him to throw strikes at a rate higher than a lot of pitchers with his stuff are willing to throw — but at the rate he should be throwing.

Put it all together and you have a pitcher who is indeed better than he appears like he ought to be. He continues to be underrated by many.

I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal

by Nico on Sep 24, 2010 6:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

Like Orel Hershiser

Zooey Deschanel!

Cluck 'em all and let the Chick sort 'em out - DMOAS

You're worried that you'll come off as nerdy as frack? On AN? That’s like being ashamed of your alcohol use at a meth convention. - danmerqury

by ChickenStanley on Sep 24, 2010 6:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

Wow.

Hope it’s nothing actually serious.

(jokes can come later)

by danmerqury on Sep 24, 2010 3:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

Well, if he's still with the team, and it's not baseball related, what could it be?

I don’t get the impression that it serious, but sure, we don’t know anything.

Yesterday:

@susanslusser Rajai Davis out of the lineup, will update when info available. #Athletics

@susanslusser Rajai Davis scratched from lineup with a non-baseball related issue. #Athletics
@susanslusser Usually non-baseball related means illness, but we have no way of knowing. Davis looked, sounded fine in the clubhouse earlier. #Athletics
@susanslusser Davis confirms “non-baseball related condition” without specifics. Should be OK for tomorrow he says. #Athletics

by LoneStranger on Sep 24, 2010 4:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

And more:
@susanslusser Geren says Davis is unavailable tonight. Still “non-baseball related” issue. #Athletics

by LoneStranger on Sep 24, 2010 4:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

And another, note the change from 'issue' to 'condition'
@susanslusser Rajai Davis will not be available tonight. Still “non-baseball related condition.”. #Athletics

by LoneStranger on Sep 24, 2010 4:18 PM PDT up reply actions  

The plot thickens!
@susanslusser Davis surprised to hear he’s unavailable but he said another day off is probably OK. No specifics again. #Athletics
@susanslusser Davis said he feels OK. #Athletics
@susanslusser Davis is on the field. He’s taking BP. It’s a mystery what’s keeping him out. #Athletics

by LoneStranger on Sep 24, 2010 4:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

Shouting match with Huston Street?

"I wasn't able to extend so I had a serious lack of extension."--Dallas Braden

by StJosephBurningTheOakTreesToTheGround on Sep 24, 2010 4:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

fixed #3
@susanslusser Davis is on the field. He’s tanking BP. It’s a mystery what’s keeping him out. #Athletics

"The ego, the super-ego, and the Ed" - dannycakes

by Future Ed on Sep 24, 2010 5:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

if you're tanking BP

then don’t bother batting in a real game.

by MobiusKlein on Sep 24, 2010 6:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

Hope he's okay.

The funny thing about baseball is that people will believe what they want to believe. -Joe Posnanski 8/29/09

by pam5981 on Sep 24, 2010 4:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

If it's two days in a row, I'm abandoning the Applebee's theory.

Maybe something going on in personal/family life?

There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, Than are dreamt of in your philosophy.

by iglew on Sep 24, 2010 5:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

You've never been to Applebee's

I’d give him a week before I need a new explanation.

by MobiusKlein on Sep 24, 2010 6:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

Just overheard in the office:

Cereal is the great unifier!

The funny thing about baseball is that people will believe what they want to believe. -Joe Posnanski 8/29/09

by pam5981 on Sep 24, 2010 4:35 PM PDT reply actions  

Ok, SBN is censoring me too now.

The funny thing about baseball is that people will believe what they want to believe. -Joe Posnanski 8/29/09

by pam5981 on Sep 24, 2010 4:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

There were two more lines in my comment.

Also, I WANT QUOTATION MARKS BACK, CLOCKWERKS.

The funny thing about baseball is that people will believe what they want to believe. -Joe Posnanski 8/29/09

by pam5981 on Sep 24, 2010 4:37 PM PDT up reply actions  

It's happening to me when it's around one line of text in a comment.

testing

The funny thing about baseball is that people will believe what they want to believe. -Joe Posnanski 8/29/09

by pam5981 on Sep 24, 2010 4:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah. Seems like when you encounter that glitch it also removes any text below it

testing again

The funny thing about baseball is that people will believe what they want to believe. -Joe Posnanski 8/29/09

by pam5981 on Sep 24, 2010 4:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

yup

The funny thing about baseball is that people will believe what they want to believe. -Joe Posnanski 8/29/09

by pam5981 on Sep 24, 2010 4:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

Like this?

Testing testing testing.

Last of the Ninth - Photography

by Flashfire on Sep 24, 2010 4:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

eh,

they’ll work it out

The funny thing about baseball is that people will believe what they want to believe. -Joe Posnanski 8/29/09

by pam5981 on Sep 24, 2010 4:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

hmmmm

he said knowing full well he is bad at typing

"The ego, the super-ego, and the Ed" - dannycakes

by Future Ed on Sep 24, 2010 5:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

there were quote makes there

i swear

"The ego, the super-ego, and the Ed" - dannycakes

by Future Ed on Sep 24, 2010 5:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

there too

no kidding

"The ego, the super-ego, and the Ed" - dannycakes

by Future Ed on Sep 24, 2010 5:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

Temporary fix

While we wait for them to fix the quotation marks bug, any time you want quote marks that won’t disappear, type """. (That’s a semicolon after the t.)

There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, Than are dreamt of in your philosophy.

by iglew on Sep 24, 2010 5:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

wahhh

The funny thing about baseball is that people will believe what they want to believe. -Joe Posnanski 8/29/09

by pam5981 on Sep 24, 2010 5:31 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yep.

I think that’s exactly what I typed.

Now I’m laughing at what you had to type to get that.

There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, Than are dreamt of in your philosophy.

by iglew on Sep 24, 2010 11:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

You couldn't be evil if you tried.

The funny thing about baseball is that people will believe what they want to believe. -Joe Posnanski 8/29/09

by pam5981 on Sep 24, 2010 4:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

You're as maniacal as a box of kittens.

"Nah, you look like Elijah Wood." - danmerqury

by OldhamA on Sep 24, 2010 4:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

That's...a weird analogy.

The funny thing about baseball is that people will believe what they want to believe. -Joe Posnanski 8/29/09

by pam5981 on Sep 24, 2010 4:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

It's a quote from the Longest Yard remake.

"Nah, you look like Elijah Wood." - danmerqury

by OldhamA on Sep 24, 2010 4:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

So, my funny about the editorial staff on a Friday got all messed up.

Thanks a lot, AN 3.6.4.

The funny thing about baseball is that people will believe what they want to believe. -Joe Posnanski 8/29/09

by pam5981 on Sep 24, 2010 4:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

Whaaaaaaaaat?

"Nah, you look like Elijah Wood." - danmerqury

by OldhamA on Sep 24, 2010 4:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

try it

after you post a comment, hit “actions”

by OaklandSi on Sep 24, 2010 4:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

You're a good person

Dan, on the other hand…

The funny thing about baseball is that people will believe what they want to believe. -Joe Posnanski 8/29/09

by pam5981 on Sep 24, 2010 4:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

I did once confess that pictures of large bridges

are like porn to me. And there’s a large bridge in the Pittsburgh picture.

Maybe St Louis, too, if you count that arch thing.

There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, Than are dreamt of in your philosophy.

by iglew on Sep 24, 2010 5:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yes, I got that power when I became a mod.

It’s part of the compensation package for having to read all the flame-wars for flagged comments.

I have resisted the urge to use it, even after posting something that I realized was retarded immediately after posting it. Nico told me once that it’s bad form, and should be saved for serious issues, not just retroactive editing of your own stupidity.

I’ve caught at least two other mods using it to fix their errors, though.

There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, Than are dreamt of in your philosophy.

by iglew on Sep 24, 2010 5:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

Hi, I'm new-ish around here

long time reader, first (almost) time poster. I’m getting 2 free tix to Sundays game in sec 117, row 24, from an A’s ticket salesman. He wants to sell me a season ticket package for next season – he’ll stop by to visit me during the game. I want to buy the fielders choice package, I really do, but I’m broke and my wife will SPANK me harder than I like if I put the deposit down….am I bad to take the tix even tho I don’t expect to purchase the package? please say, “no.”

by day game on Sep 24, 2010 5:00 PM PDT reply actions  

Yes.

"Nah, you look like Elijah Wood." - danmerqury

by OldhamA on Sep 24, 2010 5:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

no

The A’s need more fans in the seats. Do whatever it takes to get your ass in there.

by Billy Frijoles on Sep 24, 2010 5:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

No.

Pam liked my old sig better.

by mikev on Sep 24, 2010 5:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

Nice seat.

Go for it.

The funny thing about baseball is that people will believe what they want to believe. -Joe Posnanski 8/29/09

by pam5981 on Sep 24, 2010 5:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

thank you

I was going anyway, and then he offered!!

by day game on Sep 24, 2010 5:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

Or it was until his wife spanked it, anyway.

I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal

by Nico on Sep 24, 2010 6:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

Go

You’re under no obligation to buy a ticket plan just because they comp you a couple seats to one game.

Last of the Ninth - Photography

by Flashfire on Sep 24, 2010 5:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

no

"The ego, the super-ego, and the Ed" - dannycakes

by Future Ed on Sep 24, 2010 5:18 PM PDT up reply actions  

I don't know how to answer this, because

I don’t know if being spanked by your wife harder than you like is a reward or a punishment.

There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, Than are dreamt of in your philosophy.

by iglew on Sep 24, 2010 5:28 PM PDT up reply actions  

No

A's Fan in Sweden

"Some of us know him as the a-hole who piled into Ray Fosse in an All-Star game (it's why Ray is the way he is folks)" - OptimistPrime

by travdog6 on Sep 25, 2010 5:32 AM PDT up reply actions  

On BART

Some old time fans just told me something happened yesterday between Geren and Rajai. I have no idea how they know this.

by OaklandSi on Sep 24, 2010 5:27 PM PDT via mobile reply actions  

Maybe Raj told Geren he was an idiot for using Breslow the way he did the last week.

"We were shit, pathetic," Guillen growled early in spring training. "We hit too many home runs."

by lenscrafters on Sep 24, 2010 5:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

Hire Rajai.

"I wasn't able to extend so I had a serious lack of extension."--Dallas Braden

by StJosephBurningTheOakTreesToTheGround on Sep 24, 2010 5:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

so thats where the voices came from that I heard...

Zooey Deschanel!

Cluck 'em all and let the Chick sort 'em out - DMOAS

You're worried that you'll come off as nerdy as frack? On AN? That’s like being ashamed of your alcohol use at a meth convention. - danmerqury

by ChickenStanley on Sep 24, 2010 6:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

I signed in using my FB account

to see if that helps

Zooey Deschanel!

Cluck 'em all and let the Chick sort 'em out - DMOAS

You're worried that you'll come off as nerdy as frack? On AN? That’s like being ashamed of your alcohol use at a meth convention. - danmerqury

by ChickenStanley on Sep 24, 2010 6:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

So far anyhow lol

Zooey Deschanel!

Cluck 'em all and let the Chick sort 'em out - DMOAS

You're worried that you'll come off as nerdy as frack? On AN? That’s like being ashamed of your alcohol use at a meth convention. - danmerqury

by ChickenStanley on Sep 24, 2010 6:18 PM PDT up reply actions  

Your facebook account is linked to AN?

That can’t be good.

"Nah, you look like Elijah Wood." - danmerqury

by OldhamA on Sep 24, 2010 6:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

JFC I'm bored.

Pam liked my old sig better.

by mikev on Sep 24, 2010 6:27 PM PDT reply actions  

There's a game on in 30 minutes!!

The funny thing about baseball is that people will believe what they want to believe. -Joe Posnanski 8/29/09

by pam5981 on Sep 24, 2010 6:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

too long to wait

so I’m making a burger

Zooey Deschanel!

Cluck 'em all and let the Chick sort 'em out - DMOAS

You're worried that you'll come off as nerdy as frack? On AN? That’s like being ashamed of your alcohol use at a meth convention. - danmerqury

by ChickenStanley on Sep 24, 2010 6:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

make me one?

The funny thing about baseball is that people will believe what they want to believe. -Joe Posnanski 8/29/09

by pam5981 on Sep 24, 2010 6:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

sure

with onions and cheese?

Zooey Deschanel!

Cluck 'em all and let the Chick sort 'em out - DMOAS

You're worried that you'll come off as nerdy as frack? On AN? That’s like being ashamed of your alcohol use at a meth convention. - danmerqury

by ChickenStanley on Sep 24, 2010 6:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yum.

The funny thing about baseball is that people will believe what they want to believe. -Joe Posnanski 8/29/09

by pam5981 on Sep 24, 2010 6:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

grilling the onions now

Zooey Deschanel!

Cluck 'em all and let the Chick sort 'em out - DMOAS

You're worried that you'll come off as nerdy as frack? On AN? That’s like being ashamed of your alcohol use at a meth convention. - danmerqury

by ChickenStanley on Sep 24, 2010 6:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

Do you deliver???

The funny thing about baseball is that people will believe what they want to believe. -Joe Posnanski 8/29/09

by pam5981 on Sep 24, 2010 6:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

$20 minimum

Zooey Deschanel!

Cluck 'em all and let the Chick sort 'em out - DMOAS

You're worried that you'll come off as nerdy as frack? On AN? That’s like being ashamed of your alcohol use at a meth convention. - danmerqury

by ChickenStanley on Sep 24, 2010 6:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

damn.

The funny thing about baseball is that people will believe what they want to believe. -Joe Posnanski 8/29/09

by pam5981 on Sep 24, 2010 6:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

Make me a chicken one

I’ve been staring at your breasts all day.

I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal

by Nico on Sep 24, 2010 6:31 PM PDT up reply actions  

Oh you!

[flashes]

Zooey Deschanel!

Cluck 'em all and let the Chick sort 'em out - DMOAS

You're worried that you'll come off as nerdy as frack? On AN? That’s like being ashamed of your alcohol use at a meth convention. - danmerqury

by ChickenStanley on Sep 24, 2010 6:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

Oh YOU!

{fans face}

I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal

by Nico on Sep 24, 2010 6:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

It's your own damn fault for buying boring parents.

I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal

by Nico on Sep 24, 2010 6:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

true.

Pam liked my old sig better.

by mikev on Sep 24, 2010 6:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

Knock knock.

I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal

by Nico on Sep 24, 2010 6:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

land shark?

Zooey Deschanel!

Cluck 'em all and let the Chick sort 'em out - DMOAS

You're worried that you'll come off as nerdy as frack? On AN? That’s like being ashamed of your alcohol use at a meth convention. - danmerqury

by ChickenStanley on Sep 24, 2010 6:31 PM PDT up reply actions  

Nope. Just me.

I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal

by Nico on Sep 24, 2010 6:31 PM PDT up reply actions  

are you selling something then?

Zooey Deschanel!

Cluck 'em all and let the Chick sort 'em out - DMOAS

You're worried that you'll come off as nerdy as frack? On AN? That’s like being ashamed of your alcohol use at a meth convention. - danmerqury

by ChickenStanley on Sep 24, 2010 6:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

besides himself?

Pam liked my old sig better.

by mikev on Sep 24, 2010 6:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

Oh. Then no.

I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal

by Nico on Sep 24, 2010 6:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

well, ummm...

do you work cheap?

Zooey Deschanel!

Cluck 'em all and let the Chick sort 'em out - DMOAS

You're worried that you'll come off as nerdy as frack? On AN? That’s like being ashamed of your alcohol use at a meth convention. - danmerqury

by ChickenStanley on Sep 24, 2010 6:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

What are you making for Sunday?

Something sans-peanut butter? ;)

The funny thing about baseball is that people will believe what they want to believe. -Joe Posnanski 8/29/09

by pam5981 on Sep 24, 2010 6:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

If you are nice to me

Zooey Deschanel!

Cluck 'em all and let the Chick sort 'em out - DMOAS

You're worried that you'll come off as nerdy as frack? On AN? That’s like being ashamed of your alcohol use at a meth convention. - danmerqury

by ChickenStanley on Sep 24, 2010 6:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

I'm always nice to you!!

The funny thing about baseball is that people will believe what they want to believe. -Joe Posnanski 8/29/09

by pam5981 on Sep 24, 2010 6:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

Just sayin!

And I’m still not sure what I’m making yet haha

Zooey Deschanel!

Cluck 'em all and let the Chick sort 'em out - DMOAS

You're worried that you'll come off as nerdy as frack? On AN? That’s like being ashamed of your alcohol use at a meth convention. - danmerqury

by ChickenStanley on Sep 24, 2010 6:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

Make me! Make me!

I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal

by Nico on Sep 24, 2010 6:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

PB and Nico sammich

Zooey Deschanel!

Cluck 'em all and let the Chick sort 'em out - DMOAS

You're worried that you'll come off as nerdy as frack? On AN? That’s like being ashamed of your alcohol use at a meth convention. - danmerqury

by ChickenStanley on Sep 24, 2010 6:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

$9

cheap bastard

The funny thing about baseball is that people will believe what they want to believe. -Joe Posnanski 8/29/09

by pam5981 on Sep 24, 2010 6:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

I think it's spelled Batard.

I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal

by Nico on Sep 24, 2010 6:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

sourdough batard?

Zooey Deschanel!

Cluck 'em all and let the Chick sort 'em out - DMOAS

You're worried that you'll come off as nerdy as frack? On AN? That’s like being ashamed of your alcohol use at a meth convention. - danmerqury

by ChickenStanley on Sep 24, 2010 6:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

No, that's bastard.

I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal

by Nico on Sep 24, 2010 6:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

It's all I have left in your monopoly money.

"Nah, you look like Elijah Wood." - danmerqury

by OldhamA on Sep 24, 2010 6:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

I feel really bad for those people who had to sit behind Stephen Colbert

at his Congressional testimony. How do you keep a straight face?

The funny thing about baseball is that people will believe what they want to believe. -Joe Posnanski 8/29/09

by pam5981 on Sep 24, 2010 6:36 PM PDT reply actions  

i love that man

Pam liked my old sig better.

by mikev on Sep 24, 2010 6:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

most of them have a stick

firmly planted up their asses, so its quite easy

Zooey Deschanel!

Cluck 'em all and let the Chick sort 'em out - DMOAS

You're worried that you'll come off as nerdy as frack? On AN? That’s like being ashamed of your alcohol use at a meth convention. - danmerqury

by ChickenStanley on Sep 24, 2010 6:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

Testimony for what?

"Nah, you look like Elijah Wood." - danmerqury

by OldhamA on Sep 24, 2010 6:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

Ok, my first laugh was 5 seconds in.

The guy in the glasses behind him is ridiculous. How is he not cracking up?

"Nah, you look like Elijah Wood." - danmerqury

by OldhamA on Sep 24, 2010 6:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

SEE?

The funny thing about baseball is that people will believe what they want to believe. -Joe Posnanski 8/29/09

by pam5981 on Sep 24, 2010 6:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

He cracked a smile at the democrats being out of work joke.

So he’s one of THOSE people.

"Nah, you look like Elijah Wood." - danmerqury

by OldhamA on Sep 24, 2010 6:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

The blonde girl to her left was smiling too.

So were some of the members of the bench.

Nowhere near enough though. That was some good material.

"Nah, you look like Elijah Wood." - danmerqury

by OldhamA on Sep 24, 2010 6:55 PM PDT up reply actions  

would they throw a chair at him?

Zooey Deschanel!

Cluck 'em all and let the Chick sort 'em out - DMOAS

You're worried that you'll come off as nerdy as frack? On AN? That’s like being ashamed of your alcohol use at a meth convention. - danmerqury

by ChickenStanley on Sep 24, 2010 6:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

We appreciate humour.

"Nah, you look like Elijah Wood." - danmerqury

by OldhamA on Sep 24, 2010 6:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

But not humor, you humorless batards.

I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal

by Nico on Sep 24, 2010 6:55 PM PDT up reply actions  

Nope, we don't do humor.

"Nah, you look like Elijah Wood." - danmerqury

by OldhamA on Sep 24, 2010 6:56 PM PDT up reply actions  

Except off-colour joukes?

I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal

by Nico on Sep 24, 2010 7:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

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