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Gio Gonzalez is Flat Out Filthy, A's Win Second Consecutive Series on 10 Game Road Trip


The A's won a laugher today in Arlington, 8-2. The win was keyed by another outstanding outing from Gio Gonzalez, a few timely long balls and the vaunted defense of the Texas Rangers.

On days like today, I catch my self salivating uncontrollably. Gonzalez, Trevor Cahill and Brett Anderson are ridiculous. Today it was Gonzalez on the bump looking like a Cy Young candidate. I know, I know... Don't get ahead of ourselves, but wow. If these 5 guys (add Dallas Braden and Vin Mazzaro to the list) can all stay healthy the next few seasons are going to be very, very exciting for us A's fans.

Now about that run scoring deficiency...

Star-divide

Despite two home runs, the Texas Rangers defense was perhaps the biggest contributor to the explosion of runs today. The A's offense was really helped out by boneheaded plays and brutally butchered bounding balls. But I saw the shimmer of potential, anyway.

It occurred to me, whilst we were all watching Gio dazzle, that Jeff Larish might turn out to be someone the Tigers really regret letting go. Not to mention Kevin Kouzmanoff, despite great defense and occasional power, might be mad at the Tigers for setting him free.

Larish has been outstanding in the minors. His offensive production would, more than likely, be an upgrade on Kouzmanoff. His defense would require quite a lot of work, but he appears capable of league average defense at 3rd.

I know, Kouzmanoff went deep today and has been on a hot streak (Heck, he was AMPM Player of the Game per Ken Korach). I'd just say that the at bat Larish took in the second is the kind of at bat we rarely see from any A's hitter not named Pennington, Barton, Cust or Sweeney. He saw 5 pitches, took 3 balls before getting a strike and letting it rip on a 3 and 1 count. It is the kind of at bat the A's need out of their hitters more often than not. Larish has taken more of these at bats in the past two weeks than Kouzmanoff has the entire season, or so it seems.

To continue the theme from earlier, The A's have picked off the probe droid, defeated the wampa and are now head to New York in an attempt to stave of an invasion from the Galactic Empire. Even if the A's are pretty much out of the race, which they are, it is nice to actually be paying close attention to the standings as we turn towards September. It is even nicer to know that the plan for contention appears to be right on schedule.


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love them crazy eyes

Gio had the mark of Zorro today.

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by emperor nobody on Aug 29, 2010 3:08 PM PDT reply actions  

Gio left his mark, GG

Good Game.

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by Hit4TheCycle on Aug 29, 2010 3:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

Agreed...

I can see Larish starting on the big club next year. I love his approach and he has torn through the minors, only thing that worries me is all reports say he was blocked by Cabrera in DET which makes me wonder, is 1B his only position? If he has a good finish and good spring i could see him getting a starting job but the question is whos to go??? Kouz, i’d be OK with that. Cust, ehhh not so much. Scouting reports say hes got a great but not very accurate arm, glove seems fine…sounds like maybe a corner outfield spot would be a good fit…i kinda rule out 3B for him cuz detroit didn’t see him there for a reason, and that double error the other day kinda has me seeing why they would view him that way…

by Po' Boy on Aug 29, 2010 3:16 PM PDT via mobile reply actions  

OF, definitely.

Crisp has to be a definite. Carter, Larish, and Davis have to be in the conversation, and if we pull a good FA signing for the OF (keeping the faith on a CC signing), that person should be a definite.

Larish can’t take Barton’s spot. And he can’t take Cust’s spot. He could take Kouz’s spot maybe, but Kouz plays good D and might actually be warming up to AL pitching finally.

So I think OF.

"I wasn't able to extend so I had a serious lack of extension."--Dallas Braden

by StJosephBurningTheOakTreesToTheGround on Aug 29, 2010 4:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

If Davis is anything more than a 5th outfielder next year, I will be stunned.

I expect that he won’t be in Oaktown, honestly. He has proven that he is what he is, rather than what he was for a month or so last season.

I believe next season the A’s will have Crisp, Carter, Jackson, Larish and Taylor all available to play in the outfield. Though, Jackson may be non tendered in the off season. Rajai and Buck both seem to be on the outs.

by jeffro on Aug 29, 2010 5:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

As a 5th outfielder, he's a fairly good one

since he hits lefties decently, can steal a base on demand, and plays all three positions.

I doubt the A’s will get rid of that, especially considering the alternatives.

"We don't want our people to be preoccupied with seminude, crazy men jumping up and down who are chasing an inflated object," said Sheik Mohamed Osman Arus, head of operations for the Hizbul Islam insurgent group.

by PaulThomas on Aug 29, 2010 7:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

Right, especially since it's Coco "Mr. Glass" Crisp we're talking about here

And who’s the alternative backup CF? Sweeney? Corey Brown? Someone named Matt?

Bleargh. No, I’m pretty sure Davis’s job is quite safe for the moment.

"We don't want our people to be preoccupied with seminude, crazy men jumping up and down who are chasing an inflated object," said Sheik Mohamed Osman Arus, head of operations for the Hizbul Islam insurgent group.

by PaulThomas on Aug 29, 2010 7:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

He's basically Coco Crisp's understudy

And as that, he’s pretty darn good.

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by Nico on Aug 29, 2010 9:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

once again

A's v Giants "is kind of like the difference between going to see the Ramones and going to see the Bee Gees. A's fans will go see the Ramones."
-BB 07/27/05

by xbhaskarx on Aug 29, 2010 3:17 PM PDT reply actions   2 recs

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by ak_A on Aug 29, 2010 4:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

I like how pissed he was at himself coming off the field, apparently for letting Hamilton park that demon chiquito in the second deck.

It was almost Bradenesque. I also like the man love between those two.

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by The Dogfather on Aug 29, 2010 9:25 PM PDT up reply actions  

so much.

The funny thing about baseball is that people will believe what they want to believe. -Joe Posnanski 8/29/09

by pam5981 on Aug 30, 2010 12:40 AM PDT up reply actions  

Larish

He could be Fox expirement all-over again – trying to turn a minor league slugger with a bad glove into a super-sub. Hopefully more succesful.

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by Manstein on Aug 29, 2010 3:18 PM PDT reply actions  

Or....

He could be like Rosales. Blocked then let go for nothing and shinned once he was able to show what he could do…but yea, it could be Fox Part 2…and the lack of D is worrysome.

by Po' Boy on Aug 29, 2010 3:23 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions  

I don't really agree with that comparison.

Rosales is versatile with the ability to play basically any position and play it well. He’s also been decent with the bat this year, but his defensive versatility is what separates him. Larish can play a couple of positions, but not particularly well. If he’s gonna be good, his value will come from his bat.

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by travdog6 on Aug 29, 2010 4:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

Maybe confusion...

I was comparing their rise through other organizations minor leagues. Both were blocked, both have certain strong skillsets, Rosey has versatility and Larish has a bat. That said, they are in no way the same player, but they are in similar situations (both have ATLEAST one major league tool if not more.

by Po' Boy on Aug 29, 2010 4:31 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions  

Also Rosales was not in any way blocked.

Paul Janish and Orlando Cabrera do not count as blocking players.

What we’re asking is for people to stop pretending that ipse dixit counts as a "source." When you make a claim about baseball, you should be willing to put some reasonable amount of effort into explaining why it’s correct if someone asks you to. That’s basic respect for the other poster. - PT

by designatedforassignment on Aug 29, 2010 7:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

this

Larish wasn’t really blocked too badly. Inge could be shifted to catcher, where the Tigers have a black hole.

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by Blicks on Aug 29, 2010 8:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

I like this idea.

Work on his D so he can at least be serviceable at various positions. I like the idea of several super-subs. If Rosales, Larish, and Wimberley are all on the bench next year, you have three probably-serviceable super-subs at your disposal. Makes the lineup nice and customizable, and potentially limits the damage Bobo can do with his weird dart-board lineups.

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by StJosephBurningTheOakTreesToTheGround on Aug 29, 2010 4:28 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yes to Larish and Rosales, no to Wimberley

He’s literally valueless if Rosales is on the team

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by stranahanahan on Aug 29, 2010 4:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

Wimberley will likely hit so badly that he will be valueless regardless

What we’re asking is for people to stop pretending that ipse dixit counts as a "source." When you make a claim about baseball, you should be willing to put some reasonable amount of effort into explaining why it’s correct if someone asks you to. That’s basic respect for the other poster. - PT

by designatedforassignment on Aug 29, 2010 7:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

Exactly

Wimberley has no business on a Major League roster.
He doesn’t deserve consideration, nothing. I don’t care if he could play every position.

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by stranahanahan on Aug 29, 2010 7:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

My point was that Wimberley was literally valueless regardless of whether Rosales was on the roster because he is terrible

backflips and stirrups do not a prospect make.

What we’re asking is for people to stop pretending that ipse dixit counts as a "source." When you make a claim about baseball, you should be willing to put some reasonable amount of effort into explaining why it’s correct if someone asks you to. That’s basic respect for the other poster. - PT

by designatedforassignment on Aug 29, 2010 7:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

I know

I should have made that point from the beginning.
I didn’t mean to imply that Wimberley would be useful if we didn’t have a Rosales type, although I sure made it seem that way.

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by stranahanahan on Aug 29, 2010 7:50 PM PDT up reply actions  

This makes me sad

But I agree.

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by Future Ed on Aug 29, 2010 8:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

Wimberly???

he is davis with a worse bat, less power, and no ML experience. i don’t think so

by heartstopper on Aug 30, 2010 10:17 AM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah, I don't see it

Fox was drafted as a catcher. I believe Larish was somewhat of a “utility” guy in college. I want to say he played corner outfield, 3rd, 1st and DH. I think mostly 1b, but I don’t feel like looking it up.

Larish seems a lot more athletic to me.

You could be right, in the end. The result could be the same. Larish doesn’t look great in the field, but I imagine if he spent the whole off season playing 3rd base in a winter league or something similar, he could improve and be an upgrade on Kouz.

by jeffro on Aug 29, 2010 4:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

Larish played OF at ASU, alongside Travis Buck, apparently

I don’t think the Rosales comp is apt, but I do think he could — if things go well — be a Cust type, who gets overlooked in his mid-20s due to his TTO profile but who can slug well at the big league level. And considering he can almost certainly play OF better than Cust can, Larish could be a good piece of the 2011 puzzle.

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by Nico on Aug 29, 2010 9:18 PM PDT up reply actions  

He played with a ridiculous number of other draft picks actually

Among literally dozens of others, he played at least one season with: current A’s farmhands Petey Paramore and Eric Sogard; Brett Wallace; Ike Davis; Dustin Pedroia; and Andre Ethier.

"We don't want our people to be preoccupied with seminude, crazy men jumping up and down who are chasing an inflated object," said Sheik Mohamed Osman Arus, head of operations for the Hizbul Islam insurgent group.

by PaulThomas on Aug 29, 2010 9:53 PM PDT up reply actions  

Ken Korach mentioned the OF he was part of

and it was Larish, Buck, plus one other major leaguer. But it wasn’t Ethier (I guess he wasn’t playing OF at that point).

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by Nico on Aug 29, 2010 9:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

Ethier departed after Larish's freshman season

Looks like it was probably Colin Curtis.

"We don't want our people to be preoccupied with seminude, crazy men jumping up and down who are chasing an inflated object," said Sheik Mohamed Osman Arus, head of operations for the Hizbul Islam insurgent group.

by PaulThomas on Aug 29, 2010 10:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yes, that's who it was.

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by Nico on Aug 29, 2010 10:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

Jeez

I’ve never really thought about it before, but ASU has done a phenomenal job of producing productive big leaguers…

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by stranahanahan on Aug 29, 2010 9:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

The ASU-Stanford series in 2003

featured more future big-leaguers than most AA games do. ASU had three (the aforementioned Ethier/Pedroia/Larish combo) and Stanford had NINE (Ryan Garko, Carlos Quentin, Sam Fuld, “the other” Chris Carter, A’s draftee Danny Putnam, Donny Lacy, Jed Lowrie, John Mayberry Jr., and John Hester).

"We don't want our people to be preoccupied with seminude, crazy men jumping up and down who are chasing an inflated object," said Sheik Mohamed Osman Arus, head of operations for the Hizbul Islam insurgent group.

by PaulThomas on Aug 29, 2010 10:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

i think i remember that college world series

larish was hitting home runs and looking far more impressive than buck.

some things never change.

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by xbhaskarx on Aug 29, 2010 9:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

Good writeup

Serious question: are you from outside the US? I’ve noticed a surge in usage of “whilst” in place of “while” among younger Americans (say, under 30) on the internet in the last year or two.

Wikipedia sez (superscript source citing removed since it created funky links with AN’s autoformat):

While and Whilst

In standard British English and Australian English, whilst is synonymous with while in meaning and usage. In American English and Canadian English, whilst can be considered pretentious or archaic.

Some publications on both sides of the Atlantic disapprove of whilst in their style guides (along with “amidst” and “amongst”); for example:

    * Times Online Style Guide: “while (not whilst)”
    * Guardian Style Guide: “while not whilst”
    * Hansard: the Canadian Parliament record: “while not whilst”

The American Heritage Guide writes that, “while using whilst runs the risk of sounding pretentious, it can sometimes add a literary or ironically formal note to a piece of writing.”

Notably, there are no style guides that explicitly recommend the usage of whilst over while in any circumstance. The general consensus among scholars of English is that whilst is an unnecessary and archaic word whose primary usage is by Britons who prefer what they perceive as a more “noble” word. Its etymology derives from the early English whiles and, simply put, while is the word that has replaced whilst in modern English, just as “thee” and “thou” were replaced by “you”.

None of this is to say you can’t use the word. I’m just perplexed as to why Americans are seemingly reintroducing the word into our lexicon. Most of the time, there doesn’t appear to be any intended humor (such as in Aladdin, when Genie says, “So why don’t you just ruminate, whilst I illuminate the possibilities”). Was your usage of the word intentional (for example, to emphasize the ridiculousness of the awesome starting pitching by Gio), or was it merely used as a substitute for while?

/linguistic curiosity

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by JediLeroy on Aug 29, 2010 3:31 PM PDT reply actions  

I, too, find it interesting

Though I can’t say I’ve seen the trend you have. In all the English and Writing classes I took at various levels of college, I don’t recall ever seeing this use among fellow students. If it happened, it wasn’t often enough for me to notice.

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by thejd44 on Aug 29, 2010 4:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

Actual LOL

That’s about the best response possible.

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by JediLeroy on Aug 29, 2010 4:25 PM PDT up reply actions  

I forgot to say..

I was born in Oakland, under the shadow of 3 World Series titles, and have never lived anywhere south of Bakersfield or north of Santa Rosa or east of Sacramento. That means I am older than 30, and I have never lived outside of California.

And, I just used “whilst” on a whim.

by jeffro on Aug 29, 2010 4:25 PM PDT up reply actions  

Thanks for the response

I’m always fascinated by usage differences.

Whilst versus while is merely a curiosity for me. It’s interesting how global internet communities can affect word choice, not unlike immigration or foreign trade patterns in centuries past.

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by JediLeroy on Aug 29, 2010 4:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

I, for one have always destested the word 'shall'.

Rooting for the Yankees is like cheering the tanks at Tianamen Square.

by brothersky on Aug 29, 2010 5:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

shall has a speicifc meaning

namely, to indicate that doing something (.“one shall…”) is mandatory, not optional

this is is the case in statutes, for example

in regular conversation and writing, it does sound pretentious

by my_cat_max on Aug 29, 2010 7:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

I'm not convinced on Larish

As Manstein said, he looks a bit like Fox…but I’d be happy to have him prove me wrong.

by SteveMcPhatty on Aug 29, 2010 3:31 PM PDT reply actions  

Fox was fundamentally not patient, which made him a "hacker" with power.

Larish isn’t that and in fact is quite the opposite. That’s a huge difference.

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by Nico on Aug 29, 2010 9:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

Larish's swing just looks better from a contact standpoint

I know he actually struck out more often than Fox did in the minors, but he’s not up there swinging at 3 straight sliders as he swings for the fences.
Plain and simple, I see him as a much smarter hitter when he’s up there, he’ll actually work a pitcher…

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by stranahanahan on Aug 29, 2010 9:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

He struck out more, but that could be because he was more willing to work counts.

Did he actually swing and miss more? (Maybe he did. I don’t know)

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by thejd44 on Aug 30, 2010 6:38 AM PDT up reply actions  

larish seems interesting, at least

his minor league track record is pretty good. if we can teach him to play average defense, he could be, at the very least, equal to kouz. you’re right on point about his ABs – kouzmanoff has horrible ABs in general, evidenced by his preposterously low OBP. he’s on a “hot” streak right now, but i suspect he’ll be back to his normal awful hitting self soon. if that happens, i’d seriously consider dropping kouz in the offseason, plugging in larish at 3B, and using the saved money to go after a top FA – $4m won’t land you anyone, but it can help pad an offer.

by guy incognito on Aug 29, 2010 4:13 PM PDT reply actions  

Kouz's D is a big loss.

I’d rather get a really good hitting coach in to work on these guys. Rajai, Kouz, and Gross could all be a lot better if they had someone teaching them.

(Hire Rickey now.)

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by StJosephBurningTheOakTreesToTheGround on Aug 29, 2010 4:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

Huge loss

Which is why i had said he better find a spot in the outfield, Larish doesn’t have an accurate enough arm. Still, i’m sick of Kouz and his weak bat, we need an offensive internal or external upgrade at one of the infield corners and barton aint goin anywhere so Kouz should be traded

by Po' Boy on Aug 29, 2010 4:36 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions  

I know

This is why I sort of qualified it with “Larish can be league average.” If Larish improves to be a league average defender at 3rd, then his bat and defense combined are an upgrade over Kouzmanoff.

by jeffro on Aug 29, 2010 4:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

A hitting coach can only do so much

Kouz is what he is with a stick in his hands.

by jeffro on Aug 29, 2010 4:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

As Larish is what he is with a glove in his hand.

IMO, the focus for Larish should be on COF. That’s where he’d be really useful.

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by Nico on Aug 29, 2010 9:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

Wouldn't you say though

That it’s a bit easier to teach a natural athlete to improve his defense than it is to teach him to be a better hitter. I could be wrong but I look at guys like Ellis and Chavez, who were mentored by coaches in the bigs and significantly improved their defense.

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by stranahanahan on Aug 29, 2010 9:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yes, but I wouldn't hold your breath

waiting for Larish to become a league average 3Bman. I imagine if that were realistic it would have been done by now. He could probably be an ok COFer, though; apparently he was comfortable there in college.

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by Nico on Aug 29, 2010 9:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah

I wasn’t saying that referencing Larish in specific. I’m fine with him at a corner spot if he can show us something here in the next month.

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by stranahanahan on Aug 29, 2010 9:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

I like his short, quick, power swing

It reminds me of (talk about “good, medium, and bad”) Carlos Delgado, Nick Swisher, and Aaron Rowand. But the plate discipline is more Swisher! He is, however, probably less gritty than Rowand.

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by Nico on Aug 29, 2010 9:55 PM PDT up reply actions  

Swisher's looked a lot better than "medium" the past two seasons

I don’t know exactly who “won” the Nick Swisher trades— but I do know the White Sox lost them…

"We don't want our people to be preoccupied with seminude, crazy men jumping up and down who are chasing an inflated object," said Sheik Mohamed Osman Arus, head of operations for the Hizbul Islam insurgent group.

by PaulThomas on Aug 29, 2010 9:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

Considering NY gets him through 2012 at below market value

And they gave up next to nothing for him, I’d say they won, with Oakland being a clear cut 2nd, unless FDLS provides good value or Sweeney learns how to hit a ball 400 feet more than once every 400 days…

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by stranahanahan on Aug 29, 2010 10:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

We do

I just meant that I think NY will get possibly a little more value out of 4 years of Swisher during his peak years than we will out of 6 of Gio.

I could be wrong, and I certainly hope I am

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by stranahanahan on Aug 29, 2010 10:25 PM PDT up reply actions  

Potentially, yes.

Though I think if you add in Sweeney’s 3.8 WAR from last year plus anything he may contribute in the future PLUS any value that FLDS may provide, I’d think that Oakland probably ends up with the highest total WAR acquired.

NY likely acquired the highest WAR total compared to what they gave up.

The White Sox prove Kenny Williams is a silly goose.

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by mikev on Aug 29, 2010 10:28 PM PDT up reply actions  

True true

Kenny Williams is seriously the most impulsive GM I’ve ever seen in baseball.

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by stranahanahan on Aug 29, 2010 10:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

The White Sox DHs are some combination of Teahen, Kotsay, and Andruw Jones

Manny is actually a good move for them.

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by thejd44 on Aug 30, 2010 6:39 AM PDT up reply actions  

It was only one game,

but the most hilarious is without a doubt, Omar Vizquel.

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by travdog6 on Aug 30, 2010 7:14 AM PDT up reply actions  

Yes, especially since Vizquel can still play defense

Really, Vizquel is still useful. 43 years old, plus defense, and an OPS of almost .700?

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by thejd44 on Aug 30, 2010 7:27 AM PDT up reply actions  

UZR isn't thrilled with his D this year, but it's like the first time in 50 years

Vizquel will still be winning Gold Gloves when he’s 60 years old.

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by stranahanahan on Aug 30, 2010 9:59 AM PDT up reply actions  

By "medium" I actually just meant

“very unlike Delgado and Rowand.”

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by Nico on Aug 29, 2010 10:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

These guys have been playing baseball for years now

One hitting coach is not going to turn a player from a below average bat to a really good one, IMO.

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by stranahanahan on Aug 29, 2010 4:37 PM PDT up reply actions  

Now that I think about it...

Rickey is already on the payroll. Just not coaching at the Major League level regularly.

Rickey had the most amazing approach at the plate. Part of me thinks he should stay roving the Minor Leagues so that he can impact players when they are still working through things rather than trying to convince Major Leaguers to ditch what got them there.

by jeffro on Aug 29, 2010 5:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

I wonder if they'll call up anyone right now with no immediate need for an arm or any help

and Sac in the middle of a playoff race. Maybe FDLS or something, but I doubt it for now.

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by travdog6 on Aug 29, 2010 4:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

Have you seen FDLS season stats

Ugh.

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by stranahanahan on Aug 29, 2010 7:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

Whoa

I had no idea how bad of luck he’s had this year.

And that’s what I get for seeing ERA and not researching further…

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by stranahanahan on Aug 29, 2010 7:28 PM PDT up reply actions  

What about our local boy Lyman? Or is it Lynam?

The meaning of life is not so much 'found,' as it is 'made.' --Opus

by The Dogfather on Aug 29, 2010 9:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

Who is this person,

and why is he taking up a slot on my favorite team’s 40-man roster?

"We don't want our people to be preoccupied with seminude, crazy men jumping up and down who are chasing an inflated object," said Sheik Mohamed Osman Arus, head of operations for the Hizbul Islam insurgent group.

by PaulThomas on Aug 29, 2010 10:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

It may have something to do

with his being the secret of Sprite.

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by Nico on Aug 29, 2010 10:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

Grew up in Alamo.

Probably went to Monte Vista — drafted pretty high be the Braves. I thought he’d cracked the Show, but those stats didn’t seem to show any MLB time.

Apparently the A’s are trying to turn him into a reliever, and are achieving consistent results, although negative.

The meaning of life is not so much 'found,' as it is 'made.' --Opus

by The Dogfather on Aug 30, 2010 9:19 AM PDT up reply actions  

Sacramento beat Fresno 2-1 to take the division lead and the tiebreaker advantage

The winning run came on a 2-out single in the bottom of the 8th by none other than Jermaine Mitchell, who was brought up for his first taste of Triple-A ball when Carter went on the DL.

Last of the Ninth - Photography

by Flashfire on Aug 29, 2010 4:27 PM PDT reply actions  

Everybody but Kane County and the DSL affiliate are in reasonably good positions.

Parent club, take notes.

"I wasn't able to extend so I had a serious lack of extension."--Dallas Braden

by StJosephBurningTheOakTreesToTheGround on Aug 29, 2010 4:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

Depends if Chavez will be activated from the DL

by TBRMKane on Aug 29, 2010 4:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

I don't

He has only had a few flashes of goodness this season.

by jeffro on Aug 29, 2010 4:37 PM PDT up reply actions  

If he does, it'll only be after Sacramento's season concludes

Their last regular season game is on September 6, but they now have a slight lead in the playoff chase. If they make another run to the league title series, it could delay that date by another two weeks.

The A’s may decide not to bring him up, because he’s not on the 40-man roster yet— though he’ll have to be added by November anyway, so that may not be a deterrent.

"We don't want our people to be preoccupied with seminude, crazy men jumping up and down who are chasing an inflated object," said Sheik Mohamed Osman Arus, head of operations for the Hizbul Islam insurgent group.

by PaulThomas on Aug 29, 2010 4:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

Weds game on ESPN. nice.

alaska A currently residing in northern Idaho. --- theme for august = remain calm and try to truly enjoy a .500 team.

by ak_A on Aug 29, 2010 4:32 PM PDT reply actions  

First of the year, right?

Bout effing time.

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by stranahanahan on Aug 29, 2010 4:37 PM PDT up reply actions  

i think its happened at least once before this year.

alaska A currently residing in northern Idaho. --- theme for august = remain calm and try to truly enjoy a .500 team.

by ak_A on Aug 29, 2010 4:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

YAY

NRAFs rejoice!

Needs moar dingerz.

by Blicks on Aug 29, 2010 6:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

Sound: OFF.

The funny thing about baseball is that people will believe what they want to believe. -Joe Posnanski 8/29/09

by pam5981 on Aug 30, 2010 12:42 AM PDT up reply actions  

Cardenas and Corey Brown

Both should be called up along with Wolf. They killed doubleA and are at the age where they should get a chance to do somethin on a MLB stage. I hope they don’t call up Bowers and Buck is gone after this year anyways so why even call him up?

by Po' Boy on Aug 29, 2010 4:44 PM PDT via mobile reply actions  

The A's still think they're in the race

Why call up Brown and Cardenas to sit on the bench?

by TBRMKane on Aug 29, 2010 4:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

They killed double A but stalled in AAA

There’s no reason to make them struggle at the big league level before they get more acquainted with triple A pitching.

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by stranahanahan on Aug 29, 2010 5:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

for what it's worth...

… with no major league baseball in Carolina I go to quite a few minor league games, AAA Durham (Rays) and AA Carolina Mudcats (Reds nee Marlins) Double A is where the studs play, AAA is where organizations put a product on the filed and hide people, prospects with long-term deals, rehab assignments, where a Pat Borders can still get AB’s, etc. If they killed it at AA I say bring ’em up – worked for the Marlins, Beckett, D. Willis, H. Ramirez and M. Cabrera never sniffed triple A.

by A's fan in Raleigh on Aug 30, 2010 7:14 AM PDT up reply actions  

Except Sacramento is a much harder place to play than Midland is

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by stranahanahan on Aug 30, 2010 10:01 AM PDT up reply actions  

Cardenas is not on the 40-man roster and not Rule 5 eligible

There’s not a snowball’s chance in hell that the A’s call him up. Doing so would effectively force them to unnecessarily release someone.

Brown’s got to go onto the 40-man anyway, so he’s a different story.

"We don't want our people to be preoccupied with seminude, crazy men jumping up and down who are chasing an inflated object," said Sheik Mohamed Osman Arus, head of operations for the Hizbul Islam insurgent group.

by PaulThomas on Aug 29, 2010 7:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

AHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

http://www.halosheaven.com/2010/8/29/1657612/poll-why-are-the-baseball-gods

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by stranahanahan on Aug 29, 2010 6:03 PM PDT reply actions  

There's not a "Because We Suck" Option?

It’s the 10 stages of denial—- Halos fans need some time to abandon their delusional fantasies and realize that their team is going to share the cellar of the AL West with the Mariners for the next 3-4 years or so.

Needs moar dingerz.

by Blicks on Aug 29, 2010 6:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

Seriously

I certainly hope so.
It’ll be nice going to Angels Stadium only half full of “fans” rather than the 40,000 they have every night when they’re winning…

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by stranahanahan on Aug 29, 2010 6:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

Aww, do you want your wittle blankie Colby
"I thought we had better fans than that,’’ Lewis said. "I mean, it’s the first time I’ve given up more than five runs. I walk a guy, and now they boo me?

Colby Lewis whines about getting booed after the A’s score runz

Needs moar dingerz.

by Blicks on Aug 29, 2010 6:26 PM PDT reply actions  

he's having a great year, i'll side with him over the stupid rangers fans

A's v Giants "is kind of like the difference between going to see the Ramones and going to see the Bee Gees. A's fans will go see the Ramones."
-BB 07/27/05

by xbhaskarx on Aug 29, 2010 6:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

this

What we’re asking is for people to stop pretending that ipse dixit counts as a "source." When you make a claim about baseball, you should be willing to put some reasonable amount of effort into explaining why it’s correct if someone asks you to. That’s basic respect for the other poster. - PT

by designatedforassignment on Aug 29, 2010 7:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

so?

who wants to be friends with rangers fans?

A's v Giants "is kind of like the difference between going to see the Ramones and going to see the Bee Gees. A's fans will go see the Ramones."
-BB 07/27/05

by xbhaskarx on Aug 29, 2010 7:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

Rangers employees?

I hate Bob Geren and his peanut brain so much -- lenscrafters

by WaddellCanseco on Aug 30, 2010 6:33 AM PDT up reply actions  

Did Kouzmanoff ever play for the Tigers?

I remember him as an Indian but never in Detroit. Correct me if I’m wrong.

by samljm on Aug 29, 2010 7:15 PM PDT reply actions  

he was drafted by cleveland, so, no

larish did, though.

A's v Giants "is kind of like the difference between going to see the Ramones and going to see the Bee Gees. A's fans will go see the Ramones."
-BB 07/27/05

by xbhaskarx on Aug 29, 2010 7:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

Minor point in a good game summary

I wondered why he said “Not to mention Kevin Kouzmanoff, despite great defense and occasional power, might be mad at the Tigers for setting him free.” I assume he meant the Indians.

by samljm on Aug 29, 2010 7:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

He might be mad at the tigers for letting larish go

Cuz larish moght replace kooz

WTF GEREN?!?!?!

by robbo650 on Aug 29, 2010 7:31 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions  

He also might be mad at Leyland for smoking.

I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal

by Nico on Aug 29, 2010 9:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

getting ahead of yourselves

  Some point about next year. No Kouz will be the thirdbaseman unless The A’s get Beltre or a very good overpay offer for him. D at third is a Beane must. Second nobody knows how the outfield and DH will turn out. My guess is Buck gets traded and the A’s bring in a FA corner outfielder. As for DH anything could happen but best guess is Cust doesn’t get arbitration offer and signs with the M’s.

by Arcman on Aug 29, 2010 9:21 PM PDT reply actions  

It's lines like this that make me miss Fire Joe Morgan
# The risk factor in signing Carl Crawford depends on the length of the deal given to him, tweets Sean McAdam of CSNNE.com.

REALLY?!? You think so???

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by stranahanahan on Aug 29, 2010 9:53 PM PDT reply actions  

While it pisses me off that he's making money to state the obvious,

it’s better than being completely wrong or a complete douche or something.

A's Fan in Sweden

by travdog6 on Aug 30, 2010 2:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

Sacramento: A note, and a question

Note: Michael Taylor went 2 for 2 with a 3B tonight. Woo hoo.

Question: Who the heck is Justin James and how did he get on the Rivercats?

I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal

by Nico on Aug 29, 2010 10:15 PM PDT reply actions  

Old minor league relief pitcher

Never been in the majors, but seemingly having a very good season in the Oakland organization.

"We don't want our people to be preoccupied with seminude, crazy men jumping up and down who are chasing an inflated object," said Sheik Mohamed Osman Arus, head of operations for the Hizbul Islam insurgent group.

by PaulThomas on Aug 29, 2010 10:56 PM PDT up reply actions  

he was last an independent league player

throws in the 96mph range. they were talking about him on the pregame the other day….

by heartstopper on Aug 30, 2010 1:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

Now he can get ejected arguing the first pitch in White Sox games.

I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal

by Nico on Aug 29, 2010 10:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

That was ridiculous

And shows Manny’s complete lack of respect for anything but himself…

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by stranahanahan on Aug 29, 2010 10:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

well the dodgers didn't have to put him on waivers

I remember one year when the BoSox had him on waivers for a long time and he was pissed because he wanted to stay with the team and didn’t like being dangled out there as trade bait.

I think respect works both ways.

by Billy Frijoles on Aug 30, 2010 9:47 AM PDT up reply actions  

Last I heard... none of these young pitchers can hit!

Where’s the gorram bat!?

Yer killin me kouz, yer killing me!

by Oaktownflav on Aug 30, 2010 12:58 AM PDT reply actions  

This is encouraging, at least
Since returning to Triple-A, Adrian Cardenas is batting .304/.342/.406, an improvement over his early season Triple-A line of .228/.285/.281

http://twitter.com/oakclubhouse/status/22540387048

Last of the Ninth - Photography

by Flashfire on Aug 30, 2010 10:01 AM PDT reply actions  

This team

really has an embarrassment of riches in young pitching. It has the second-best ERA in the majors with the youngest rotation with good arms in the BP and more on the way. It’s hard for me not to be optimistic about the future of this team right now.

I guess there is that whole “offense” aspect of the game I’m overlooking.

by humdinger on Aug 30, 2010 10:06 AM PDT reply actions  

If Outman comes back healthy this last month and into Spring Training

I could definitely see something of a 6 man rotation next year including him, to protect Anderson and Mazzaro from being overpitched next year. Use him as a spot starter and so that Mazzaro and Anderson keep to around 25 starts next year.

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by stranahanahan on Aug 30, 2010 10:20 AM PDT up reply actions  

If he's healthy,

I could see Outman ousting Mazzaro out the rotation entirely.

by humdinger on Aug 30, 2010 10:25 AM PDT reply actions  

Yeah, I could see it too

But I think it would be beneficial for each if they sort of shared starts with Anderson. Mazzaro’s inning load will increase somewhere around 25-40 innings from last year, so they may want to be careful about overworking him next year. Outman shouldn’t be worked every 5th day yet so that he can come back from TJ surgery with ease, and we’re all well aware of the concerns with Anderson.

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by stranahanahan on Aug 30, 2010 10:39 AM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah

Mazzaro is the weak link at the moment. He has improved quite a bit though.

I have more confidence in the other 4 at the moment.

by Trainman on Aug 30, 2010 11:29 AM PDT up reply actions  

My guess....

…is that barring any free agent signing, Outman will start the year either in Sacramento or in the bullpen, depending on where he is in his recovery. It often takes an additional year of work (see Liriano, Francisco) to fully round back into shape.

Given the standard attrition rate for pitchers over the course of a season, it’s pretty likely that he will return to the rotation at one point or another, unless of course he becomes one of the top set-up guys along the way.

by richwol1 on Aug 30, 2010 2:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

Hey kids!

Rob Neyer on Damon Bruce’s show right now talking about the A’s starting five! They are both giving tour boys mad props! Nice!

Go A’s and go Cahill tonight vs. the Stanks!

"By the end of the year, I'll have Dallas throwing right-handed'' -Ben Sheets

by mrod on Aug 30, 2010 12:50 PM PDT reply actions  

Accountability Beane/Geren

Sorry folks, despite the brilliant young pitching, we’ve been here before….see Hudson, Muldur & Zito a few years ago, and what happened, they all left for greener (and I mean cash) pastures. The A’s hitting is anemic, batting 200 as a team in many games they have lost !! When do Beane & Geren start to be held accountable for the results ?? This is what I would like to know or perhaps someone more educated with respect to the A’s can provide the answer in this forum ????

by PhilipL on Aug 30, 2010 3:41 PM PDT reply actions  

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