DLD 8/26 - Why is Jeffrey Loria still an owner?
by YonYonson on Aug 26, 2010 2:10 PM PDT
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PrintKeeping with the financial theme, apparently Marlins owner Jeffrey Loria duped the taxpayers on the proposed new stadium.
Owner Jeffrey Loria and president David Samson for years have contended the Marlins break even financially, the centerpiece fiscal argument that resulted in local governments gifting them a new stadium that will cost generations of taxpayers an estimated $2.4 billion. They said they had no money to do it alone and intimated they would have to move the team without public assistance.
The ugliness of the Marlins’ ballpark situation is already apparent, and the building doesn’t open for another 18 months. Somehow a team that listed its operating income as a healthy $37.8 million in 2008 alone swung a deal in which it would pay only $155 million of the $634 million stadium complex. Meanwhile, Miami-Dade County agreed – without the consent of taxpayers – to take $409 million in loans loaded with balloon payments and long grace periods. By 2049, when the debt is due, the county will have paid billions.
via l.yimg.com
Lineups, via Susan Slusser:
#Athletics at #Indians: Crisp cf, Barton 1b, Suzuki c, Cust lf, Ellis 2b, Larish dh, Kouzmanoff 3b, Gross rf, Pennington ss
Felix Hernandez is the youngest pitcher to 1,000 strikeouts... since Dwight Gooden (I should, you know, start reading things I link, huh?). Playing in the same division as Jack Cust has helped.
Also,
• Trevor Cahill allowed 1 unearned run in seven innings pitched against the Cleveland Indians to pick up his 14th win of the season. His performance is the 17th straight quality start by Oakland Athletics starters. According to the Elias Sports Bureau, that is the longest streak by an MLB team since the Braves had a 21-start streak in 1997. It is the longest by an AL team since the Yankees had an 18-start streak back in 1981.
ESPN Page 2's Kurt Snibbe comes up with some MLB promotional giveaways that didn't make the cut.
NFL owners love your hard-earned money, too (shocking!) and are looking into expanding the regular season from 16 to 18 games.
A nice piece from Posnanski about Strasburg-like pitchers. Warning: the words "Van Poppel" and "Harden" are in that link.
via media.lehighvalleylive.com
NBC kowtows to Notre Dame football as coach Brian Kelly works with the peacock to make commercial breaks better fit the Fighting Irish offense. Between this and the shell game being played by teams and conferences moving every day, my dislike of the NCAA is growing.
Kelly said he and athletic director Jack Swarbrick have had conversations with NBC officials about how coverage plans will work with the Irish's up-tempo style, which is basically hurry-up, no-huddle.
"We've talked to NBC about the way we like to play the game versus maybe how it was played in the past," Kelly said Tuesday. "There is certainly a need for us to address it and I think we're working with NBC to make certain that they get what they need from an advertising standpoint. But, also as the network that carries Notre Dame, that we're able to do things we need to do as well."
In response, NBC plans to have five shorter breaks per quarter this season, rather than four longer ones, during Notre Dame games, a format that is used for NFL games.
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no, he's not
Felix Hernandez is the fastest pitcher to 1,000 strikeouts.
Youngest to Reach 1,000 Strikeouts Since 1900
Yrs-Days
1941 Bob Feller 22-179
1974 Bert Blyleven 23-121
1988 Dwight Gooden 23-249
2010 Felix Hernandez 24-139
A's v Giants "is kind of like the difference between going to see the Ramones and going to see the Bee Gees. A's fans will go see the Ramones."
-BB 07/27/05
(assuming based on the link you provided that by "fastest" you mean "youngest"
A's v Giants "is kind of like the difference between going to see the Ramones and going to see the Bee Gees. A's fans will go see the Ramones."
-BB 07/27/05
fangraphs has two articles on cahill
FanGraphs Stats and the Cy Young
After Trevor Cahill lowered his ERA to 2.43 last night, Buster Olney tweeted that his numbers made Cahill a top contender for the AL Cy Young award. Keith Law quickly responded, noting that Cahill was 31st among AL starters in WAR and had a 4.07 FIP, suggesting that Cahill was in no way a Cy Young candidate despite the shiny low ERA.
But FIP was not designed to give us a better insight into what actually happened, but, instead, what is likely to happen in the future. FIP is part of the collection of metrics that do a good job of predicting what will happen in the future by focusing on things that are under a player’s control. FIP was never designed to be a backward-looking metric designed to tell us what actually did happen. And there’s a decent argument to be made that the Cy Young award should be awarded based on what did happen, not on what should have happened or what will happen in the future.
A's v Giants "is kind of like the difference between going to see the Ramones and going to see the Bee Gees. A's fans will go see the Ramones."
-BB 07/27/05
HAH!
A nice big FUCK YOU to Keith Law, the biggest ass and know it all in baseball.
It’s nice to see that Fangraphs actually explain the purpose of their metric
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by stranahanahan on Aug 26, 2010 3:49 PM PDT up reply actions
I have found that FanGraphs
is frequently much more intelligent than the people who cite FanGraphs.
Those who actually read the FanGraphs posts understand what they’re doing. It’s the ones who just pick out the numbers and say “yeah, but FanGraphs says this” who give it a bad name.
Also, is there any blog anywhere that has a higher average intelligence level among commenters? Seriously, on the Internet in general comment sections are normally so stupid that just to reach average intelligence there is quite an accomplishment. How does FanGraphs keep the idiots off? Do they edit comments? Is there a special captcha test that requires higher brain functions?
There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, Than are dreamt of in your philosophy.
Hey buddy.
How does FanGraphs keep the idiots off?
They don’t. I comment there. Get your shit right.
A's Fan in Sweden
it's because i read but don't comment
A's v Giants "is kind of like the difference between going to see the Ramones and going to see the Bee Gees. A's fans will go see the Ramones."
-BB 07/27/05
haha
Seriously though, in general they have great commenters
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by stranahanahan on Aug 26, 2010 4:34 PM PDT up reply actions
The books blog has a higher VORC for my money
And Cameron’s position makes no sense what so ever.
First, if FIP doesn’t tell us what actually happened then it shouldn’t be the basis for their WAR, because WAR is suppose to explain the value of a player in that season and be a descriptive stat. If WAR is suppose to be a predictive stat then they need to do the same for wOBA which is descriptive by using xBABIP to make it about true talent level rather than descriptive to match the pitching stat.
Second, Cameron goes on to say:
So, just like I would not rely solely on ERA to make a judgment about who deserves the Cy Young award, neither would I rely solely on FIP. When trying to evaluate how a pitcher did in the past, ERA includes too many things that aren’t under his control, while FIP strips out too much. If I had to choose one or the other, I’d go with FIP over ERA, because I think it gets you closer to reality
Which completely clashes with what he is saying about its ability as a descriptive stat. Also if FIP is predictive then why the hell do we need xFIP?
Cameron is a great stats ambassador but on a couple of occasions Ive found him botch a couple of things.
What we’re asking is for people to stop pretending that ipse dixit counts as a "source." When you make a claim about baseball, you should be willing to put some reasonable amount of effort into explaining why it’s correct if someone asks you to. That’s basic respect for the other poster. - PT
by designatedforassignment on Aug 26, 2010 9:08 PM PDT up reply actions
reason 47 why i like tRA and am using statscorner a lot more.
What we’re asking is for people to stop pretending that ipse dixit counts as a "source." When you make a claim about baseball, you should be willing to put some reasonable amount of effort into explaining why it’s correct if someone asks you to. That’s basic respect for the other poster. - PT
by designatedforassignment on Aug 26, 2010 9:11 PM PDT up reply actions
What is the "books blog"?
I’m not familiar with it.
There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, Than are dreamt of in your philosophy.
The Book blog
www.insidethebook.com, I think.
It’s Tango and MGL and friends. And he’s right, the people there are ridiculously smart.
"We don't want our people to be preoccupied with seminude, crazy men jumping up and down who are chasing an inflated object," said Sheik Mohamed Osman Arus, head of operations for the Hizbul Islam insurgent group.
yup yup
What we’re asking is for people to stop pretending that ipse dixit counts as a "source." When you make a claim about baseball, you should be willing to put some reasonable amount of effort into explaining why it’s correct if someone asks you to. That’s basic respect for the other poster. - PT
by designatedforassignment on Aug 27, 2010 2:22 PM PDT up reply actions
Will the Marlins even be playing in this new stadium when the loans are finally paid off?
By 2049, when the debt is due, the county will have paid billions.
The “shelf life” of stadiums and arenas seems to be getting shorter and shorter.
Bob Geren... Jackie Moore without the personality.
They will
Remember most teams played in their turn of the 20th century stadiums for 40-60 years. I think this latest group of parks will by necessity last that long too. Taxpayers won’t want to fork out dough for new ballparks when the current ones have only gotten 20 or so years of use.
Cool story.
Logan Morrison hits first triple as ill father watches from stands
Bob Geren... Jackie Moore without the personality.
I'm interested to know if any other law types
have any ideas on how people could challenge the Marlins’ stadium “situation.” Can the local government void the contract? Could they at least bust Loria for perjuring statements to local authorities?
That situation is utterly sickening. At the least, taxpayers should be picketing that construction site (and Marlins games) demanding their money back.
"We don't want our people to be preoccupied with seminude, crazy men jumping up and down who are chasing an inflated object," said Sheik Mohamed Osman Arus, head of operations for the Hizbul Islam insurgent group.
Well... they were making false claims I could easily see a case for fraud
But I’m not the least bit of a lawyer. But I totally agree on just how sickening that whole mess is.
Choosy Feebas choose Leopold Bloom nipples
Daring. Sensual. Invigorating. Squirrel.
BLOOM. For men.
If the eggs actually hatch I made more than a mistake, I made some scientifically impossible crime.
I was thinking that too
I actually came to this thread to ask if he could be charged with anything.
His behavior is disgusting and right in line with top executives at companies like Enron and Halliburton, IMO.
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by stranahanahan on Aug 26, 2010 3:50 PM PDT up reply actions
One would hope that MLB suspends him for this.
Choosy Feebas choose Leopold Bloom nipples
Daring. Sensual. Invigorating. Squirrel.
BLOOM. For men.
If the eggs actually hatch I made more than a mistake, I made some scientifically impossible crime.
I doubt that very much
They WANT teams to do this sort of thing.
I suppose public pressure might get to them, but I’m not holding my breath.
"We don't want our people to be preoccupied with seminude, crazy men jumping up and down who are chasing an inflated object," said Sheik Mohamed Osman Arus, head of operations for the Hizbul Islam insurgent group.
This.
Swindling a government out of free public money = win for MLB.
It’s what they do.
There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, Than are dreamt of in your philosophy.
Why do you think
the Giants had to wait so long to get the All-Star Game?
Because they proved that you didn’t need to fuck over a city entirely to build a stadium.
Public money for private interests that put nothing back into the pot is criminal.
In matters of style, swim with the current; in matters of principle, stand like a rock. ~ Thomas Jefferson
Thank God that baseball teams are the only ones to do this
and it hasn’t caught on with other big corporations.
Oh, wait.
There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, Than are dreamt of in your philosophy.
by iglew on Aug 27, 2010 12:09 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Well...
Yes… they want them to do this sort of thing. But they DON’T want them to get caught. If MLB suspends him, it’ll be the typical reactionary “Oh this is a very bad thing that we don’t condone, so we’re going to ‘nip’ this in the bud” response they always have. I’d hope they do it anyway, but even if the reasoning behind “my hope” will never be the same as the “cover their ass” reasoning for it.
Choosy Feebas choose Leopold Bloom nipples
Daring. Sensual. Invigorating. Squirrel.
BLOOM. For men.
If the eggs actually hatch I made more than a mistake, I made some scientifically impossible crime.
Kinda like steroids?
Sorry, it was too easy… and I think you’re probably right.
Bob Geren... Jackie Moore without the personality.
I don't know the facts of the case, but I would guess
that Loria was clever enough to make his claims of poverty in a way that they were just bullshit talk to sway the public officials and never any sort of sworn statement or anything on which any contract was based.
If the county has signed on to funding that isn’t revocable, I’d guess they’re still stuck with the bill. They could probably find other ways to take it out on him, though, including general public shaming.
There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, Than are dreamt of in your philosophy.
It wouldn't surprise me...
…if the people who approved this, and didn’t insist on reviewing the team’s books, get re-elected. We whine, we complain, we distrust our political leaders, but (for the most part) we keep re-electing them.
Bob Geren... Jackie Moore without the personality.
My property professor...
… felt that the answer to everything was the public trust. I’m sure she’d find a way to make it apply here as well.
"I've made a huge little mistake." - G.O.B.
fraud would be a way to go
If they intentionally lied to get the city into a deal, then it would be fraud. However, I’m not sure of an actual case of defrauding voters, although there are plenty of times cities have sued contractors for fraud. Not sure if there was any kind of actual agreement here.
But then, who wins? The town is stuck with a broke-ass baseball team.
by Billy Frijoles on Aug 27, 2010 10:37 AM PDT up reply actions
Only cool thing about the Marlins new stadium?
The aquariums behind the batter’s boxes
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Seems weird to me
I’m going to wait for the first hard foul ball to crack it
"Do I talk to myself? No, I just remind myself of what I'm trying to do. You know, I never answer myself so how can I be talking to myself?" - Rickey
Athletics Nation - WE'RE ALL GONNA MRIIIIIIIIIIIII!!!!!
by cuppingmaster on Aug 26, 2010 4:03 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
With 2 inches of bullet proof glass?
Doubt it.
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by stranahanahan on Aug 26, 2010 4:35 PM PDT up reply actions
JUST WAIT TILL CHRIS CARTER TURNS ON ONE.
Pam liked my old sig better.
by mikev on Aug 26, 2010 6:47 PM PDT up reply actions 3 recs
the mets chris carter?
will we even play the marlins?
A's v Giants "is kind of like the difference between going to see the Ramones and going to see the Bee Gees. A's fans will go see the Ramones."
-BB 07/27/05
GREEEEENEDDDD!
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by stranahanahan on Aug 26, 2010 8:28 PM PDT up reply actions
Wow...
someone more evil then Al Davis! :X
"Twenty minutes," says Jack Sr. "Thank god for Billy Beane."
"Any fan that wants us to do that is going to be disappointed because that just isn’t us." - Wolff
"Just play for the name in front of the uniform.." - Dallas Braden
"Oakland is the emotional choice, and could still work, but San Jose really is the best choice." - UncleLeo
I'll call them equal
:)
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by stranahanahan on Aug 26, 2010 8:28 PM PDT up reply actions
Just.... wow
jaysonst #Nationals just revealed Stephen Strasburg has torn ligament in his elbow and probably will need Tommy John Surgery. Sad news for the sport!
6 minutes ago
"Do I talk to myself? No, I just remind myself of what I'm trying to do. You know, I never answer myself so how can I be talking to myself?" - Rickey
Athletics Nation - WE'RE ALL GONNA MRIIIIIIIIIIIII!!!!!
One more detail...
Nationals general manager Mike Rizzo said the team’s medical staff believes Strasburg’s injury was “acute” and happened on one pitch.
Full story here.
"And Julio Franco is batting right-handed!" -- Wayne Hagin, A's radio play-by-play, mid-80s
Nope, nothing wrong with his throwing mechanics at all. Nothing to see here.
Pam liked my old sig better.
Once again...
when is a major-league team going to take a chance on hiring Mike Marshall to develop their young pitchers?
"And Julio Franco is batting right-handed!" -- Wayne Hagin, A's radio play-by-play, mid-80s
Who's Mike Marshall?
"You see, in this world there's two kinds of people, my friend: Those with loaded guns and those who dig. You dig."
A former MLB pitcher, best years with the Dodgers
who threw over 200 IP as a reliever in 1974, winning the Cy Young (Joe Rudi hit a HR off him in the 1974 Series to win a game; and Marshall also is the guy who picked Herb Washington off first in that Series).
He tore up his arm early in his career, and having decided to get a PhD in kinesiology at the University of Minnesota in the offseason, he made his arm and his pitching motion his dissertation project. He’s analyzed the specifics of why the traditional pitching motion is so incredibly bad for the shoulder and elbow, and has developed a different motion that he believes is much safer for the arm, back, hips, etc (it’s actually a little like a cricket bowling motion, where you follow through by crossing the same-side foot in front as you’re releasing). Some of his ideas, such as the observation that pronating the hand (like throwing a screwball) is actually better for the elbow than supinating it (like a curve or slider) have been adopted by other coaches and analysts.
He’s also a curmudgeon and a bit of a nut. He has complete contempt for MLB, thinks that they’re in absolute denial about the terrible effects of the traditional pitching motion and about his work that could do away with nearly all arm problems, and refuses to go “half-way” in training pitchers. He has an entire workout regime with weights and throwing shots (as in the shot-put) to strengthen pitcher’s arms and backs, and from what I’ve heard will only work with guys who will do 100% of his program.
He teaches in a sort of run-down looking facility in Florida. He has a website with tons of videos breaking down the damage done by the traditional pitching motion and how his pitching motion works. I find it fascinating, and I’ve been on a “Beane should hire Marshall” kick from time to time here. I half think that Beane should send Ynoa down there when he’s rehabbed from his injury, and tell the doc, “Mike, you’ve always said you could do wonders if you had real talent to work with. Here’s Ynoa. Do your best.”
"And Julio Franco is batting right-handed!" -- Wayne Hagin, A's radio play-by-play, mid-80s
Oh, and one more thing
the “Outman family motion” — the one that Outman used before getting to the minors, reverting to a traditional motion, and destroying his elbow — is a little reminiscent of Marshall’s motion, though the Outmans set up perpendicular to the plate (the normal way), whereas Marshall wants the pitcher to stand facing the plate and never really turn away from that orientation — all the motion is supposed to be forwards (not torquing around the hips or anything), towards the target (again, kind of the way a fast bowler takes a long run up to the wicket before delivering the ball).
"And Julio Franco is batting right-handed!" -- Wayne Hagin, A's radio play-by-play, mid-80s
Is there a good video of that?
It’s kind of hard to envision
"Do I talk to myself? No, I just remind myself of what I'm trying to do. You know, I never answer myself so how can I be talking to myself?" - Rickey
Athletics Nation - WE'RE ALL GONNA MRIIIIIIIIIIIII!!!!!
by cuppingmaster on Aug 27, 2010 9:38 AM PDT up reply actions
Follow the link to Marshall's website in my long comment above
and here’s a highspeed video of that pitcher from OldhamA’s video, I think. This one looks a lot like the Marshall motion from the videos on Marshall’s site.
One of the videos listed on that page I linked to above is called “Injurious Flaws”. It describes in detail exactly how the traditional motion injures the arm, and how Marshall’s motion avoids those injuries. About 2:45 into the video he shows film of a HS pitcher practicing a “crow hop” throwing motion that really emphasizes to me the relationship between Marshall’s mechanics and the mechanics of a pace cricket bowler.
"And Julio Franco is batting right-handed!" -- Wayne Hagin, A's radio play-by-play, mid-80s
I love the Outman delivery.
I would dearly love to see Josh come back and try it in Oakland. Maybe it works, or maybe it doesn’t, but I’d love to see him try.
(Marta also favors the Outman delivery, as she demonstrates here:
)
There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, Than are dreamt of in your philosophy.
Another advocate of the Outman delivery
is ElQuesoCapitan’s favorite minor-league pitcher, Kristen Bell:
There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, Than are dreamt of in your philosophy.
Wow
Thank you for this, that is fascinating
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by stranahanahan on Aug 27, 2010 1:13 PM PDT up reply actions
Ouch. So that's 18 months out?
"You see, in this world there's two kinds of people, my friend: Those with loaded guns and those who dig. You dig."
Two things:
1) I’ve just converted some money into dollars – man it looks fake.
2) Why do sports franchises in America get away with the tax payer footing the bill for their new stadiums? That’s so backwards.
"You see, in this world there's two kinds of people, my friend: Those with loaded guns and those who dig. You dig."
My god I love this show
September 16th. September 16th.
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by stranahanahan on Aug 27, 2010 1:13 PM PDT up reply actions
I'm so glad it The League got a full run this year
That and Sunny back to back will make Thursdays complete.
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by stranahanahan on Aug 27, 2010 2:18 PM PDT up reply actions
what show is this?
"Do I talk to myself? No, I just remind myself of what I'm trying to do. You know, I never answer myself so how can I be talking to myself?" - Rickey
Athletics Nation - WE'RE ALL GONNA MRIIIIIIIIIIIII!!!!!
by cuppingmaster on Aug 27, 2010 2:30 PM PDT up reply actions
It's called The League
It’s on FX on Thursday nights after It’s Always Sunny in Philadelphia at 10:30.
It’s about a group of middle aged guys who have a Fantasy Football league. It’s really really funny. Last season was only 6 episodes long, but this one is a full 13 episode run. It’s got comedians Nick Kroll and Paul Scheer if you know those guys. If you have ever played any fantasy sports, you’ll find this show funny.
Also, if you’ve never watch Always Sunny that show is awesome too.
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by stranahanahan on Aug 27, 2010 2:35 PM PDT up reply actions
Well it's not like you all aren't doing the same thing
[coughlondonolympicscough]
The problem I have with it is not “using tax money to buy happiness,” which is a perfectly legitimate use of tax money; it is, rather, that somehow the tax money isn’t BUYING anything, but rather just being given away to the already rich.
"We don't want our people to be preoccupied with seminude, crazy men jumping up and down who are chasing an inflated object," said Sheik Mohamed Osman Arus, head of operations for the Hizbul Islam insurgent group.
The Olympics is a little different.
It’s an international event and the facilities will be used as bases for the national teams when the ceremony is over.
It’s not like Manchester United go to the Manchester City Council and say “Hey, buy us a new stadium or we’re off to London.” As you say – they have enough money to build the stadiums of their own accord, so they should. It’s pure greed.
"You see, in this world there's two kinds of people, my friend: Those with loaded guns and those who dig. You dig."
Places like the Coliseum (and Arena) certainly do have other uses...
…concerts, exhibitions, and the like… so there is more benefit to the community than just the times they can be used for sporting events. Be that as it may, I still feel that they should be privately owned and financed.
I would agree the Olympics are a little different, but I think cities should avoid those like the plague. Turning a profit or even breaking even is the exception, not the rule. Plus, they’re a major disruption to the normal workings of the community and the locals end up being treated like 2nd class citizens. What benefit there is pales relative to the downside.
Bob Geren... Jackie Moore without the personality.
It's a badge of honour for the career politicians.
They’re always going to bid for them.
"You see, in this world there's two kinds of people, my friend: Those with loaded guns and those who dig. You dig."
Actually, the research on the World Cup
shows that it really does have substantial “happiness dividends” which, while not necessarily reflected in the bottom line, are of significant benefit to a society. I assume the Olympics is similar.
Re: stadiums, I’m fine with public ownership and rental to sports teams. The problem is that the “rent” is always comically token (what were the Marlins supposed to pay, like $5M a year? It should be 10-20 times that much).
"We don't want our people to be preoccupied with seminude, crazy men jumping up and down who are chasing an inflated object," said Sheik Mohamed Osman Arus, head of operations for the Hizbul Islam insurgent group.
How about $1/yr rent?
Where the leases stand in 2010 (Source)
• Paul Brown Stadium: It is currently a period of the lease (2009-2016) where neither party makes a payout. The next phase of the lease (2017-2032) the county pays the Bengals, starting at $2.67 million in 2017 and growing to $3.94 in 2025.
• Great American Ball Park: The county gets one final payment of $1.4 million from the Reds as “rent” next year. Beginning in 2012 The Reds pay the county $1 per year “rent” through 2032.
This is just one example. The rest of the story is interesting as well.
Bob Geren... Jackie Moore without the personality.
What's the point then?
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by stranahanahan on Aug 27, 2010 2:19 PM PDT up reply actions
Probably so that the contract has a notional consideration
Oddly, it is much easier to invalidate a contract where you give someone something for nothing, than one where you give them something (even something really valuable) for a dollar.
"We don't want our people to be preoccupied with seminude, crazy men jumping up and down who are chasing an inflated object," said Sheik Mohamed Osman Arus, head of operations for the Hizbul Islam insurgent group.
If you let them in for nothing,
then it’s that much harder to kick them out later, because they can argue they have implied consent to stay as long as they like.
The dollar makes it clear that they are only there with your permission as part of a business deal.
There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, Than are dreamt of in your philosophy.
Very well put.
There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, Than are dreamt of in your philosophy.
Related to Brian "Don't Call Me Chip" Kelly's requestimatum to NBC:
EDSBS has a semi-amusing take.
"I've made a huge little mistake." - G.O.B.
The replies to that piece are terrifying.
"You see, in this world there's two kinds of people, my friend: Those with loaded guns and those who dig. You dig."
Anybody know anything about Bobby Cramer - the starter at AAA
linky to his firstinning.com page
FIP seems to love him. His K/BB rate is pretty impressive through out his career. He’s 31. Very strange story.
IIRC, he's old, like almost 30
Yeah, looking at that page he’s over 30. He’s the pitching version of Watson or Carson.
BTW, Lewis and Shipman have both started playing at the Arizona rookie league. And Choice hit another HR last night for Vancouver.
"And Julio Franco is batting right-handed!" -- Wayne Hagin, A's radio play-by-play, mid-80s
Yes, but
pitchers don’t have defined peaks and decline phases the way hitters do. He’s much more likely than either of them to have suddenly figured something out and be good now.
Look at Colby Lewis. He’s now past his 31st birthday and was not just bad, but TERRIBLE, up to about age 29.
"We don't want our people to be preoccupied with seminude, crazy men jumping up and down who are chasing an inflated object," said Sheik Mohamed Osman Arus, head of operations for the Hizbul Islam insurgent group.
I'd give him a callup in September, that's for sure
unless the A’s unexpectedly leap back into the race by sweeping Texas or something.
I mean, why not? Plus it might save some wear and tear on the young pitchers.
Speaking of which, Brett Anderson would be (with normal #s of starts) on pace for a 5 WAR season.
"We don't want our people to be preoccupied with seminude, crazy men jumping up and down who are chasing an inflated object," said Sheik Mohamed Osman Arus, head of operations for the Hizbul Islam insurgent group.
And of course right after I say this he fucking slips on the mound
and hurts himself again, as well as having his worst actual performance of the season.
Sometimes I wonder if I’m really some kind of deity of bad fortune and don’t realize it, or something.
"We don't want our people to be preoccupied with seminude, crazy men jumping up and down who are chasing an inflated object," said Sheik Mohamed Osman Arus, head of operations for the Hizbul Islam insurgent group.
Tony DeFrancesco piece from the Sac Bee
Tony DeFrancesco spends so much time at Raley Field, the River Cats should name a cot after him.
It's the fans that make the game fun. -- Rickey Henderson, July 26, 2009.
So what are we to take from Choice's career so far?
He’s killing the ball but the SO’s scare the hell out of me.
He literally either has an XBH, strikeout or walk in every single AB.
His last 10 games:
40 ABs, 9 of 11 hits for extra bases, 18 K’s and 4 walks.
AN: Where you will be an A's fan or Dallas Braden will show you the repercussions of your actions.
I don't know anyone like that
Nope, no one.
He literally either has an XBH, strikeout or walk in every single AB
"I've made a huge little mistake." - G.O.B.
But he also plays CF, at least for now
"And Julio Franco is batting right-handed!" -- Wayne Hagin, A's radio play-by-play, mid-80s
AN: Where you will be an A's fan or Dallas Braden will show you the repercussions of your actions.
by stranahanahan on Aug 27, 2010 2:20 PM PDT up reply actions
He's a first round college hitter. He should be crushing the ball in short season ball.
But if he’s already striking out at a 40% rate, that’s a big enough warning flag that it makes everything else seem moot.
"We were shit, pathetic," Guillen growled early in spring training. "We hit too many home runs."
by lenscrafters on Aug 27, 2010 3:03 PM PDT up reply actions
And therefore we shall moot it.
There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, Than are dreamt of in your philosophy.
Does anyone know what Nob Hill is like?
I’m in the process of booking a hotel, thanks to wac’s very generous offer. This looks like the best option so far – unless somebody tells me otherwise!
"You see, in this world there's two kinds of people, my friend: Those with loaded guns and those who dig. You dig."
Erm - the Golden Gateway Holiday Inn?
Van Ness Avenue?
"You see, in this world there's two kinds of people, my friend: Those with loaded guns and those who dig. You dig."
That's not actually Nob Hill
I live about 6 blocks from the GGHI. Drop me an email (profile page) if you’d like a detailed lowdown on the neighborhoods in the area.
A B -3X = Swedish girls like chocolate @('.')@
Seriously, there's really three possibilities here:
There is normal Nob Hill, which is fine; there is actually on the real hill, which is swanky; and there’s “Nob Hill”, which is borderline skanky.
There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, Than are dreamt of in your philosophy.
Erm:
"You see, in this world there's two kinds of people, my friend: Those with loaded guns and those who dig. You dig."
I've been too long away from San Francisco.
I remember the neighborhoods, but I can’t reliably assign them to actual street intersections.
Van Ness and Pine. Anyone?
There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, Than are dreamt of in your philosophy.
its in the hipster part of the TL/lower nob hill
there are going to be some crazy homeless people in the area and hipsters, but there are cool bars down there.
What we’re asking is for people to stop pretending that ipse dixit counts as a "source." When you make a claim about baseball, you should be willing to put some reasonable amount of effort into explaining why it’s correct if someone asks you to. That’s basic respect for the other poster. - PT
by designatedforassignment on Aug 27, 2010 2:29 PM PDT up reply actions
Did free beer disappear
or did I have too much of it and dreamed the whole thing?
I’m pretty sure there was a FanPost titled Free Beer just today and that I commented in it and linked to Monkeyball’s drinking survey. But now, both the FanPost and my comment in my “recent activity” are gone.
"Good thing you can't hit, otherwise everybody would hate you"
– H.J.S., my ex coach (while drunkenly talking to me during a team visit to a strip joint)
Was it an inappropriate fanpost?
Maybe the Mods or the poster deleted it?
AN: Where you will be an A's fan or Dallas Braden will show you the repercussions of your actions.
by stranahanahan on Aug 27, 2010 2:36 PM PDT up reply actions
Not at all
It went about what beer drinking preferences AN members have and which beer they drink when in Coliseum.
"Good thing you can't hit, otherwise everybody would hate you"
– H.J.S., my ex coach (while drunkenly talking to me during a team visit to a strip joint)
I am having some free beer right now.
This palace has its advantages.
The funny thing about baseball is that people will believe what they want to believe. -Joe Posnanski 8/29/09
uh, place.
I already had a beer at lunch. Can you tell? It’s been a rough day.
The funny thing about baseball is that people will believe what they want to believe. -Joe Posnanski 8/29/09
Enough beer will turn any place into a palace
"Good thing you can't hit, otherwise everybody would hate you"
– H.J.S., my ex coach (while drunkenly talking to me during a team visit to a strip joint)
Huh, I totally thought we were playing NY today at 4pm.
I’m so out of it.
The funny thing about baseball is that people will believe what they want to believe. -Joe Posnanski 8/29/09
I blame the afternoon beer drinking.
The funny thing about baseball is that people will believe what they want to believe. -Joe Posnanski 8/29/09
Wow
How messed up is this URL?
http://cbs5.com/sports/san.jose.homicide.2.1883854.html
[Not the article. Well that’s messed up, too, but you know what I mean.]
"We don't want our people to be preoccupied with seminude, crazy men jumping up and down who are chasing an inflated object," said Sheik Mohamed Osman Arus, head of operations for the Hizbul Islam insurgent group.
too many dots for it's own good
Now, if we were talking about Dippin’ Dots, that would be a different story.
!#%&$#@&%&% antioxidants! - pam
by cuppingmaster on Aug 28, 2010 1:19 AM PDT up reply actions
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