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Marcum Down: Zombified A's Get One Hit and Lose Again, 3-1

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Q. What's the difference between the A's offense and Cheech & Chong?
A: Cheech & Chong were always good for at least 2 hits, man.

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If you find the A's hitters' credibility as a Major league offense, you might want to mail it in.  They sure didn't hesitate to tonight.

What is there to say?  In what seems like the umpteenth time in the last week, the A's were thoroughly baffled by a mediocre starting pitcher and accumulated all of ONE HIT -- a Conor Jackson solo HR -- in losing another close game.  This is the first time since 1920 that an Athletics team has gotten 3 hits or less in 3 straight games, if you're into statistics that send you looking in the garage for some anti-freeze to drink.

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Another day, another quality start by an A's pitcher wasted.

Jose Molina had his 2nd career 4 hit game and Jose Bautista hit his world-leading 37th HR off the foul pole, in case you were wondering what an MLB offense looks like.  Edwin Encarnacion also hit a tremendous blast off Brett Anderson -- whose slider looked flat to everyone but Kurt Suzuki, who called for it as if it was Randy Johnson's circa 2001 -- after an error by Mark Ellis, so Brett's line was 6 IP and 2 ER... more than enough to lose again for a pathetic A's attack that simply could not lay off Shaun Marcum's off-speed pitches, despite plenty of tape they could have looked at from his last start vs. Boston when the Red Sox continually laid off the slow stuff and crushed him for 4 HRs in 4 innings.  Marcum (1st career CG) only needed 101 pitches to dispense with an A's lineup that might as well have been swinging udon noodles up there; he was never in anything less than total command except for the one pitch to Jackson, who hit the first A's HR by a guy with that name since some dude called Reggie did it in September of 1987.  At this point, I'd think about slotting RMJ in as DH tomorrow night... he could not, even as an old man, do any worse than the somnolent suckfest we have seen in the last week.

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The A's will try to unstick the snooze button again tomorrow night.  Yawn.

That's all there is to say, really... as Ken Korach just said on the radio there isn't much need for analysis: The A's just can't hit.  Join Danmerqury tomorrow night at 7PM and perhaps the A's bats will show up too, although I can't make any guarantees.

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Such a depressing recap

Amazing how much I agree, unfortunately.

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by Rebuilding Season on Aug 16, 2010 9:48 PM PDT reply actions  

Can I complain here as well?

UGGGHHHHH……

"My fake plants died because I did not pretend to water them" - Mitch Hedberg RIP

by PorkchopSandwiches on Aug 16, 2010 9:48 PM PDT reply actions  

Complain in the CT thread ’cause you can cuss there!

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by Rated-R Superstar on Aug 16, 2010 9:50 PM PDT up reply actions  

*sigh*

Since I put down my deposit for 2011 season tickets, right when DB CG’ed Seattle, the A’s have not won a game…Don’t give up!

by Sniff009 on Aug 16, 2010 9:49 PM PDT reply actions  

We're gonna get no hit before this season is over.

Calling it now. It might happen more than once too.

I love this game

by Beanetown12 on Aug 16, 2010 9:51 PM PDT reply actions  

Suzuki's pitch calling!

[shakes fist]

"We were shit, pathetic," Guillen growled early in spring training. "We hit too many home runs."

by lenscrafters on Aug 16, 2010 9:52 PM PDT reply actions  

wait, is he calling pitches for the other team's pitchers?!?!?!

THAT’S why we can’t hit anything they throw at us!

There's no crying in baseball!

by gigglingone on Aug 16, 2010 11:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

What's funny

Is that if Carter hadn’t traded places with Jackson we probably would’ve been no-hit.

Yay optimism?

"Their batters are patient to the point that it's annoying." -Ryan Franklin

by Helloooo 1st on Aug 16, 2010 9:56 PM PDT reply actions  

A's hitting .187 in the last week

Snoop Dogg would call that MURDER.

Silence s'il vous plait!! Vous ne voyez pas que je suis en train de se masturber?!?

by emperor nobody on Aug 16, 2010 10:10 PM PDT reply actions  

heh

"The ego, the super-ego, and the Ed" - dannycakes

by Future Ed on Aug 16, 2010 11:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

A's "O"

The A’s are comprised of a bunch of 7,8,9 hitters not many, if any of these AA Ball players would start for any other team…..Billy Beane must be taking aft Al Davis, cause if you want a new stadium you better put out a professional product, and neither are. They may not lose 100 games it will only seem like it.

by john2260 on Aug 16, 2010 10:27 PM PDT reply actions  

They should blow up the dugout

when the offense is there and all the pitchers are on the field during practice. It would be a mercy killing.

And it would save some salary for players who can actually hit come 2011.

By the way, what is Travis Buck still doing in this organization? What will he suddenly show that he hasn’t over the years?

by rovingralph on Aug 16, 2010 10:28 PM PDT reply actions  

Travis Buck?

He’s been injured. And he was great in 07.

by danmerqury on Aug 16, 2010 11:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

No one would show up to see this crap in a good stadium

Just got back from the game. Wretched experience. The only hit came from a guy who by all right should’ve been removed from the game after his gaffe. I have no idea what the radio or TV people were saying, but Kouzmanoff did not even LOOK to see what was going on behind him for the longest time, during the period when Jackson was having his time-out.

I’ll say it again: ten years of a organization-wide hitting system, and what we’ve got to show for it are two statistical oddities, Cust and Barton. If this is what statistical analysis bring us in the way of hitting attack, drafts, trades, and teaching, then give me some stinky old geezer with a squashed cigar, porkpie hat, a stopwatch and sixty years’ experience instead.

by richwol1 on Aug 16, 2010 10:30 PM PDT reply actions  

I'm guessing it wasn't clear what happened in the stadium on the inside-the-park home run

It actually hit the foul fair pole just above the fence. The ump somehow missed it. Even if something happened where they somehow threw the guy out at home, it was a lock to be overturned on replay.

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by Flashfire on Aug 16, 2010 10:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

You're saying it was NOT an inside the park home run?

That it was an actual home run?

Yeah, it didn’t seem like that in the park. When the A’s lose, we don’t listen to the game wrap-up in the car.

by richwol1 on Aug 16, 2010 10:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

The way it looked to me and my several new friends (the whole crowd)...

…was that Jackson went for it and missed, and then stood around twiddling his dink whilst Bautista, who seemed to be more interested in those goings-on, tore ’round the bases at a high rate of speed. Eventually Kous awoke and went after the ball, but too late.

Several of us expressed dismay.

So, the A’s not only brought Jackson up, but they also appointed him Umpire? Did I miss that part?

The meaning of life is not so much 'found,' as it is 'made.' --Opus

by The Dogfather on Aug 17, 2010 6:43 AM PDT up reply actions  

I think that can be easily explained.

Jackson and Kouzmanoff knew it was a home run in the first place. It wasn’t ruled an inside-the-park home run anyway even though we thought it was at first. I don’t know how the third base umpire didn’t see it since you could hear the “clang” off the pole from the ball hitting it.

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by Rated-R Superstar on Aug 17, 2010 8:18 AM PDT up reply actions  

Maybe the ump thought ...

…it was a Podsednik.

The meaning of life is not so much 'found,' as it is 'made.' --Opus

by The Dogfather on Aug 17, 2010 10:08 AM PDT up reply actions  

I attended the intimate gathering this evening, sorry to say.

Anderson did not look sharp to me — stadium gun was off much of the time — was his velocity off?

As for Jackson — I never thought anybody could make me miss Jack Cust in left field, but at least you knew he was trying.

Lollygagger!

The meaning of life is not so much 'found,' as it is 'made.' --Opus

by The Dogfather on Aug 16, 2010 10:42 PM PDT reply actions  

We were trying to figure out whether it was the smallest crowd we'd seen

I don’t think it was, but there were very, very few people there. The people behind us brought a 2-month old baby to the game. She had a great time watching the scoreboard.

by richwol1 on Aug 16, 2010 10:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

BTW -- I dunno if that Bautista ball hit the foul pole...

…but if it did, it was below the yellow line.

The meaning of life is not so much 'found,' as it is 'made.' --Opus

by The Dogfather on Aug 16, 2010 10:44 PM PDT reply actions  

The weird thing - and I hadn't noticed this before so I wonder if it's new - is that there's a small portion of the pole...

…right above that yellow line on the foul side of the fence that’s now painted green. It hit right around that spot, which is of course still above the fence itself.

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by Flashfire on Aug 17, 2010 8:54 AM PDT up reply actions  

I noticed that too

"The ego, the super-ego, and the Ed" - dannycakes

by Future Ed on Aug 17, 2010 11:14 AM PDT up reply actions  

Rivercats update-

after attending the Rivercats game and seeing the highlights of the A’s game, I’m guessing there was better attendance in Sacramento. Chris Carter made an appearance BTW, pinch hit with the tying run on 2nd in the 9th inning-struck out looking. Heard a lot of moaning after that at bat…

by Chico_Athletic on Aug 16, 2010 10:46 PM PDT reply actions  

Carter should have never been sent down!

For Comoros Jackson? Gross!

"I'm not bad, I'm just drawn that way." -Jessica Rabbit

by A'sfansince1970 on Aug 16, 2010 11:05 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions  

BrettAnderson49

did anyone see if i made web gems haha?

by TBRMKane on Aug 16, 2010 10:51 PM PDT reply actions  

You team lost, son, and you gave up two flippin' HRs to a team that only hits 'em off Righties.

You didn’t make webgems, but I’m guessing you made “touch ’em all.” As ‘they’ say: sometimes ’tis better to be silent and be thought a fool, than to open your tweeter and remove all doubt.

This team may be too content with their current sad state.

The meaning of life is not so much 'found,' as it is 'made.' --Opus

by The Dogfather on Aug 17, 2010 8:11 AM PDT up reply actions  

Jose Bautista has a .910 OPS against LHP, leads the league in home runs and you're complaining about giving up a home run to him?

Anderson did not even pitch badly at all. Six innings, two earned runs, a walk and a five strikeouts against one of the best offenses in the league? He just gave up a few too many hits, but that’s the only knock.

Seriously, Brett Anderson is a very laid back guy and you’d know that if you look at his past tweets. It’s freaking Twitter for crying out loud.

This team may be too content with their current sad state.

You’re taking an isolated Twitter post and making a judgment on the entire based off of it? Come on, now.

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by Rated-R Superstar on Aug 17, 2010 8:23 AM PDT up reply actions  

My alma mater.

The meaning of life is not so much 'found,' as it is 'made.' --Opus

by The Dogfather on Aug 17, 2010 9:48 AM PDT up reply actions  

Mr. Calhoun coaches at my Olde School.

The meaning of life is not so much 'found,' as it is 'made.' --Opus

by The Dogfather on Aug 17, 2010 12:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

What a painful stretch.

I just finished picking up Brandow Morrow in my fantasy leagues. Hope the guys prove me wrong tomorrow.

by HRH on Aug 16, 2010 11:02 PM PDT reply actions  

JohnSheaHey
  
How much are A’s hitters struggling? Shaun Marcum, who one-hit them tonight, said of his style of pitching:, “I don’t have no-hit stuff.”
2 minutes ago via web

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by Rated-R Superstar on Aug 16, 2010 11:04 PM PDT reply actions  

O.M.F.G.

when the guy who just one-hit you says that basically he isn’t all that great, you should be ashamed… but I know Bob Geren and Jim Skaalen aren’t. Nor is Billy Beane.

Silence s'il vous plait!! Vous ne voyez pas que je suis en train de se masturber?!?

by emperor nobody on Aug 16, 2010 11:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

Im just glad went signed Yordy and shipman today

Added two more power bats to our system. Another great draft by the A’s

by buckfan6 on Aug 16, 2010 11:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

Shipman's not a power bat.

Lewis sort of is. Shipman is a speed/defense guy that could develop into a gap hitter.

by NateHST on Aug 17, 2010 12:11 AM PDT up reply actions  

This

I’m really excited about Cabrera’s bat.
I don’t remember whether it was Sickels or someone else, but they said he has the 2nd best raw power behind Harper in the draft.
Screw it, let’s just call up every hitter in the 1st 10 rounds this year and let them hit

AN: Where you will be an A's fan or Dallas Braden will show you the repercussions of your actions.

by stranahanahan on Aug 17, 2010 1:00 AM PDT up reply actions  

I sort of had the impression that Shipman had power potential

He definitely wasn’t a slap-and-run hitter in high school, at least from what I’ve read and have seen from a few swings. He’s not real big now, but he could get bigger and stronger by his early 20s. Not that he’s going to hit 30 HRs a year, but I don’t think 15 HRs would be a pipe dream with a player like him.

"And Julio Franco is batting right-handed!" -- Wayne Hagin, A's radio play-by-play, mid-80s

by Nick on Aug 17, 2010 6:57 AM PDT up reply actions  

Even in that video, it's a very wrist-y swing.

From Seiler: “All of his tools except power are above average.” Also from Seiler: “At the plate, he works with an above-average to plus hit tool that includes a simple swing with gap power. He puts a hard charge into almost every ball he hits, and while his raw power is below-average, he’s not punchless.”

Sounds like some mix between Denard Span and Brett Gardner. If he develops a little more power he could be Angel Pagan.

by NateHST on Aug 17, 2010 12:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

When it comes to this organization

and drafting bats, how in the world can you be optimistic? Take away the guys that were on steroids at the beginning of the 2000s, and Oakland has drafted and developed how many quality bats in the last 20 years?

Might as well Jump! - Van Halen

by sprtsnwyn on Aug 17, 2010 5:33 AM PDT up reply actions  

Are you saying you don't like the Michael Choice or Yordy Cabrera picks?

After a great college career in which he showed a great batting eye and power, Choice is batting .314/.442/.571 in 35 AB at Vancouver. That doesn’t make you happy? It’s a small sample size, but he’s showing you why he was worthy of where he was picked. Past history aside, I’m optimistic about this.

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by Rated-R Superstar on Aug 17, 2010 8:26 AM PDT up reply actions  

I am "pumped"

"The ego, the super-ego, and the Ed" - dannycakes

by Future Ed on Aug 17, 2010 11:16 AM PDT up reply actions  

The A's are shameless

Whether that’s good or bad, it’s tough to say…

by TBRMKane on Aug 16, 2010 11:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

big whoop

Dallas Braden doesn’t have no-hit stuff, and he threw a perfect game. Stuff happens.

by Kallus on Aug 16, 2010 11:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

It's all part of the A's master plan

to get me to watch.

I turned on the game in the fifth and saw the A’s didn’t have a hit and were down three runs. That guaranteed a loss. But I stuck around to see if the team would be no-hit, because this offensive ineptitude is historic.

After Jackson homered, I changed the channel and watched a movie with my daughter. I didn’t check to see if the A’s came back and won, because I knew that was out of the question.

by bear88 on Aug 16, 2010 11:45 PM PDT reply actions  

Misreading

I saw “this offensive inaptitude.”

That works too.

by richwol1 on Aug 17, 2010 1:07 AM PDT up reply actions  

Chris Carter

Maybe there is a good reason. Maybe the powers-that-be decided he’s really in way over his head and needed to go back to Sacramento immediately while the AAA season is still going. It’s better to admit a mistake than crush the kid’s confidence, blah blah blah.

But if the team planned on calling up Jackson to play left field full-time, what was the point of calling up Carter in the first place? Was that the plan? Did it become the plan after Carter looked horrible for a week?

The whole handling of the situation doesn’t seem right. They don’t play him in left field until recently, then suddenly decide to promote him when he’s learning a new position. And then, after he looks crummy and doesn’t get a hit for a few days, he’s dumped back to the minors.

For this, the A’s started his service clock? What if he turns out to be really good in a few years?

by bear88 on Aug 17, 2010 12:01 AM PDT reply actions  

The service clock doesn't run when he's in the minors

He’s “clocked” a week worth of games, and that’s where the clock is frozen until he’s back up in the majors. That’s really not that big a deal.

And in general, there’s really no one formula for bringing guys up and developing them. Everyone’s pissed that he went 0-19 and that the team is sucking right now, and I am too. But that doesn’t mean that calling Carter up for a week damaged his development in some way. If he ends up flaming out, it’ll be because the talent wasn’t really there, not because he spent a week playing in Oakland in August of 2010.

"And Julio Franco is batting right-handed!" -- Wayne Hagin, A's radio play-by-play, mid-80s

by Nick on Aug 17, 2010 7:01 AM PDT up reply actions  

Fair points

As for the service clock, I understand that the clock stops once he gets sent back to the minors. I am not little unclear about what the implications are of him playing on the 25-man roster for a week in 2010 down the road.

In general, though, my main gripe is treating Carter like one of the Matts. Carter might be a bust, but he’s certainly been touted within the organization as a rising star. I even got an email from the team when he was called up.

If they thought he was ready, or at least had nothing left to prove in Sacramento, I don’t think they should have called him up for a week. No, I don’t think that’s going to ruin his development, and if it does, he wasn’t going to be any good anyway.

I thought it strange, and unhelpful, to give a guy a crash course in a new position and then call him up to the majors. It’s going to give a player too many things to think about. It’s not like the A’s are in a playoff race. What was all that about?

by bear88 on Aug 17, 2010 10:24 AM PDT up reply actions  

The only timing thing I had a bit of a problem with

was the fact that they called him up to play in Seattle, and to face Fister and King Felix his first two games. That’s definitely throwing him into the deepest part of the pool. Ideally, you’d like a young hitter to face, I dunno, the Orioles’ #4 and #5 starters in his first two games.

But I think if it hadn’t been for Barton’s shoulder and Watson’s kidney stones, the A’s might just have left Carter in AAA for a few more weeks. It’s perfectly plausible to me that they might have said to him, “Chris, we’re calling you up. We think you’re ready for this challenge, and the team needs you to fill LF for a week or so. But your future in this organization does not depend on the numbers you put up in the next half dozen games, because we’ve seen the kind of player and person you are. Just do your thing, and if this turns out to be a brief, first trip to the majors, take it for all it’s worth, keep doing your thing at Sacramento, and know that we’ll see you back up here soon.”

Process and results don’t always go together in baseball. Just because the results have been putrid for a week doesn’t mean that the whole organization is nosediving across the board. They’re fully capable of doing a great job signing their key draft picks, and treating their young prospects responsibly, even while the team is hitting like the Bad News Bears.

"And Julio Franco is batting right-handed!" -- Wayne Hagin, A's radio play-by-play, mid-80s

by Nick on Aug 17, 2010 10:55 AM PDT up reply actions  

Slumps happen.

It’s a long season, and these things are good for the team. Have patience AN!

"I'm not bad, I'm just drawn that way." -Jessica Rabbit

by A'sfansince1970 on Aug 17, 2010 12:01 AM PDT via mobile reply actions  

What's good about it?

The recent offensive ineptitude, in which a no-hitter is a real possibility each game, is only a more extreme manifestation of a season-long problem. The A’s have very good, young starting pitchers – guys who seem to match up well with the Big Three in the early years. But the team can’t score runs. They can’t score runs even when they get hits by the bucketload. And usually, they can’t score runs because they don’t get many hits in the first place.

Their best hitters are Barton, a first baseman with no power, and Cust, who is in a bad slump and is probably on the downside of his career anyway.

I don’t see how it’s “good for the team.” Failure sometimes leads to success, especially with young players, but it’s usually a sign that the players you have aren’t very good.

by bear88 on Aug 17, 2010 12:20 AM PDT up reply actions  

Take it easy on Daric Barton.

The guy is 10th among all first basemen in WAR and he just turned 25.

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by Rated-R Superstar on Aug 17, 2010 12:23 AM PDT up reply actions  

I'm not complaining about Barton

He’s a good hitter with no power. If all of the A’s hitters were as good as Daric Barton, they would be okay.

by bear88 on Aug 17, 2010 12:30 AM PDT up reply actions  

WAR means nothing

If there’s nobody to drive him in.

by richwol1 on Aug 17, 2010 1:08 AM PDT up reply actions  

clearly a big man

"The ego, the super-ego, and the Ed" - dannycakes

by Future Ed on Aug 17, 2010 11:20 AM PDT up reply actions  

It's Good for the team

Two reasons. One, they can learn to deal with adversity. Two, the front office can see who stays and who goes. I am looking forward to Spring training part two, aka callups!

"I'm not bad, I'm just drawn that way." -Jessica Rabbit

by A'sfansince1970 on Aug 17, 2010 6:53 AM PDT via mobile up reply actions  

That's right, 'cuz you can't spell "patience" without AN.

The meaning of life is not so much 'found,' as it is 'made.' --Opus

by The Dogfather on Aug 17, 2010 7:33 AM PDT up reply actions  

Ugly Ugly Ugly

I watched on TV. My In-laws are here from LA and my Father in law watched with me. He saw the “crowd” in the stands and in his understated way said, “where is everyone”? This is the low point, the rock bottom. At least we will see positives in a 5 hit game so they have set our expectations so low almost anything will be cause to cheer.

Time to shoot the pitching coach or give him a sword to kack himself.

Baja been here

by bajablue on Aug 17, 2010 8:14 AM PDT reply actions  

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