DLD- A's sign Cabrera, Shipman, and Lewis!!!
by Blicks on Aug 16, 2010 7:54 AM PDT
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Printand all of the first 14 picks
MIDNIGHT EDIT CABRERA AND LEWIS ARE SIGNED per twitter
OaklandAs #Athletics agree to terms with Aaron Shipman (3rd round) and Chad Lewis (4th round) from the #mlbdraft. A's sign each of first 14 picks.
twitter.com/OaklandAs
EDIT EDIT EDIT EDIT THE A'S SIGNED YORDY CABRERA FOR 1.25 MM ala Keith Law's twitter:
http://twitter.com/keithlaw
The draft deadline is this tonight here, Monday, August 16, at Midnight EST ( 9PM PST for non-NRAFs)
Michael Choice has signed, for 2MM, as outlined here. 2MM is also around recommended slot bonus for , so you want to think that this bodes well for signing Yordy Cabrera and the other over slot guys, Lewis and Shipman. I'm just going to dump some really good A's specific draft coverage from John Sickels and Andy Seiler.
Sickels' 2010 A's draft review
Yordy's the big get here, but I think Billy and co. nail this.
There's also this nifty Baseball America draft overview podcast, which I haven't listened to any portion of yet since ActiveX isn't compatible with Kubuntu. : here
Also, any predictions on who signs/doesn't sign?
Oh, this is also a DLD, so dump away y'all.
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Ken_Rosenthal
#Dodgers’ Colletti not the dumping kind – though Manny could be an exception: http://tinyurl.com/27nmwkw #MLB #Rays #WhiteSox #RedSox
1 minute ago via web
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by Rated-R Superstar on Aug 16, 2010 8:18 AM PDT reply actions
Manny to the White Sox could be amusing
I hate Bob Geren and his peanut brain so much -- lenscrafters
by WaddellCanseco on Aug 16, 2010 9:00 AM PDT up reply actions
"Clogging the bases" is a joke
Unless you’re Joe Morgan or Dusty Baker at least.
by yo on Aug 17, 2010 8:29 PM PDT up reply actions
A's need to break out the pocketbook
Cabrera and Shipman are must signs for the A’s, in my opinion, and Lewis would be an important sign, if not a must sign. I liked the A’s draft in a down talent year because of guys like Cabrera, Shipman, and Lewis. Without those guys, the A’s 2010 draft starts to look really thin.
strongly agree with this
there is no excuse for the A’s not to be aggressive in the draft and IFA markets.
Needs moar dingerz.
I'd like to see someone disagree with this....just for fun.
I hate Bob Geren and his peanut brain so much -- lenscrafters
by WaddellCanseco on Aug 16, 2010 9:01 AM PDT up reply actions
but theyz unproven talents !111!!11!!!!1111
Steve Phillips FTW!
Needs moar dingerz.
by Blicks on Aug 16, 2010 9:26 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
so awesome
What we’re asking is for people to stop pretending that ipse dixit counts as a "source." When you make a claim about baseball, you should be willing to put some reasonable amount of effort into explaining why it’s correct if someone asks you to. That’s basic respect for the other poster. - PT
by designatedforassignment on Aug 16, 2010 11:32 AM PDT up reply actions
JasonLaCanfora
I’m hearing the 49ers dealt Kentawn Balmer. Working on getting more details.
less than a minute ago via Twitter for BlackBerry®
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by Rated-R Superstar on Aug 16, 2010 8:41 AM PDT reply actions
...
“Our guys are very excited about our new shipment of tube socks” said the 9ers equipment manager after the deal was announced
"And Julio Franco is batting right-handed!" -- Wayne Hagin, A's radio play-by-play, mid-80s
Well they had to do it. You can't really play without tube socks.
I hate Bob Geren and his peanut brain so much -- lenscrafters
by WaddellCanseco on Aug 16, 2010 9:01 AM PDT up reply actions
Rich Karlis respectfully disagrees
(Ow.)
"Don't look back. Something might be gaining on you." - Satchel Paige
He still has one, Yon.
sock puppets have never successfully defended castles, except when working with squirrels, which would never happen because squirrels know better than to trust sock puppets, except when their nipples have magical powers. -nm
by Leopold Bloom on Aug 16, 2010 1:21 PM PDT up reply actions
Should be a strike for post a Donkey pic
Especially of those egregiously bad orange jerseys that make the Gnats’ Friday-night togs look awesome in comparison.
(j/k Yon)
I can't see, now I have to pee, and I can't count to three, but I can count to JÄGERMEISTER!
susanslusser
If you missed this: Conor Jackson tells The Chronicle that from what he’s hearing, he believes he’ll come off the DL today. #Athletics
half a minute ago via Twittelator
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by Rated-R Superstar on Aug 16, 2010 9:08 AM PDT reply actions
… however, he asked that he Not be required to play defense. The A’s apparently agreed to his terms.
The meaning of life is not so much 'found,' as it is 'made.' --Opus
by The Dogfather on Aug 17, 2010 7:03 AM PDT up reply actions
I'm sorry if you expected him to make a leaping catch to save a home run.
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by Rated-R Superstar on Aug 17, 2010 9:06 AM PDT up reply actions
You mean like this one?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YaxpAkOWNM0
"PECOTA can pretty much kiss my ass."-Nico
I expect him to play 'til the ump calls it. Does he call his own times-out, too?
Say, you’re really Conor Jackson, aren’t you?
The meaning of life is not so much 'found,' as it is 'made.' --Opus
by The Dogfather on Aug 17, 2010 10:15 AM PDT up reply actions
It was obvious, though.
That’s why more than one guy didn’t “go ’til the ump calls it.”
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by Rated-R Superstar on Aug 17, 2010 10:24 AM PDT up reply actions
Obvious to the ump? To Kouzmanoff? Pennington? Suzuki? Baufarkingtista?
Okay, you’re not Jackson.
You’re his mom.
The meaning of life is not so much 'found,' as it is 'made.' --Opus
by The Dogfather on Aug 17, 2010 11:06 AM PDT up reply actions
It was obvious to me and I was watching it on television.
I’m done going around in circles with you.
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by Rated-R Superstar on Aug 17, 2010 11:19 AM PDT up reply actions
Please forgive me.
Or not.
The meaning of life is not so much 'found,' as it is 'made.' --Opus
by The Dogfather on Aug 17, 2010 11:48 AM PDT up reply actions
It was obvious to Jackson, because he was right there, saw the ball hit the pole, and heard it clank off the metal.
Regardless of what he did, it was a home run. Even if he fielded the bounce and threw Bautista out, the umpires would have ruled it was a home run on instant replay. The play was over.
It is axiomatic that you play until the ump calls you off.
And Lord knows, they never, ever get a close call wrong, except about 20% of the time.
The meaning of life is not so much 'found,' as it is 'made.' --Opus
by The Dogfather on Aug 17, 2010 11:55 AM PDT up reply actions
the only way this one would have been called wrong
is if Cito Gaston was not paying any attention to baseball in the past 2 years.
"The ego, the super-ego, and the Ed" - dannycakes
He thought the ball had gone over the fence.
He didn’t see it rebound off the foul pole back onto the field.
"You see, in this world there's two kinds of people, my friend: Those with loaded guns and those who dig. You dig."
They have instant replay for HRs now.
It would have been called correctly.
Besides, who actually looks at the ump after a home run?
I've seen at least one replay call blown before, for what it's worth.
"PECOTA can pretty much kiss my ass."-Nico
So whenever the ball goes over the fence
And you sees and hear it go over the fence. You expect the player to turn around and check to see if an ump over 100 feet away realized it? Cause odds are, you’re never going to actually hear the ump make the call.
Choosy Feebas choose Leopold Bloom nipples
Daring. Sensual. Invigorating. Squirrel.
BLOOM. For men.
Pssst.
(the ball didn’t go over the fence)
The meaning of life is not so much 'found,' as it is 'made.' --Opus
by The Dogfather on Aug 17, 2010 1:01 PM PDT up reply actions
Did Conor Jackson's HR not go over the fence either, then?
It dinked off the concrete around the LF bleachers and bounced back onto the field.
Psst:
(I don’t think it did come back)
The meaning of life is not so much 'found,' as it is 'made.' --Opus
by The Dogfather on Aug 17, 2010 1:13 PM PDT up reply actions
this is the second unwarrented personal attack in two comments. not cool
What we’re asking is for people to stop pretending that ipse dixit counts as a "source." When you make a claim about baseball, you should be willing to put some reasonable amount of effort into explaining why it’s correct if someone asks you to. That’s basic respect for the other poster. - PT
by designatedforassignment on Aug 17, 2010 12:06 PM PDT up reply actions
Eh, the whole exchange was a tonefest.
It began with one of those “I’m sorry if you feel that way” style apologies that are absolutely maddening to their recipients. Insofar as any of them are personal attacks, they’re both culpable. I think they fall short of the standard, but are representative of the kind of disrespectful tone that’s been discussed here recently ad nauseum.
"PECOTA can pretty much kiss my ass."-Nico
You’re MY mom.
The meaning of life is not so much 'found,' as it is 'made.' --Opus
by The Dogfather on Aug 17, 2010 12:41 PM PDT up reply actions
Interesting theoretical question:
If someone were to now come along and call this post a personal attack, would that claim itself constitute a personal attack?
Consider: Calling DFA your mom is only an insult if your mother is a bad thing to be (and likewise for calling someone Conor Jackson’s mom, I suppose). Therefore if someone does say it was a personal attack for you to call DFA your mom, then he is implying that being your mom is a bad thing. Therefore he is insulting your mom, and that could be construed as a personal attack on you.
There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, Than are dreamt of in your philosophy.
That insensitive lout! So, should I flag him?
The meaning of life is not so much 'found,' as it is 'made.' --Opus
by The Dogfather on Aug 17, 2010 2:08 PM PDT up reply actions
Yes...
Because if you KNOW you’re mom is something someone other than your mom would want to be (and I’m pretty sure you wouldn’t necessarily want to be his mom unless you actually are his mom), then you’d still be insulting that person. It’s more confusing (and possibly insulting of one’s own mom), but it’s still a personal attack. Just not a very good one.
Choosy Feebas choose Leopold Bloom nipples
Daring. Sensual. Invigorating. Squirrel.
BLOOM. For men.
Can't we all just get a mom?
"PECOTA can pretty much kiss my ass."-Nico
by jeepers on Aug 17, 2010 2:27 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
That was clever
Shame on people for not recognizing (by vocalizing) that comment for its comedic value and for its ability to to diffuse bad vibe.
by LowcountryJoe on Aug 18, 2010 3:00 AM PDT up reply actions
I didn't think there was much of bad vibe going around
But I do agree that it was quite clever.
Choosy Feebas choose Leopold Bloom nipples
Daring. Sensual. Invigorating. Squirrel.
BLOOM. For men.
If the eggs actually hatch I made more than a mistake, I made some scientifically impossible crime.
I am pleased to see that my question
is getting the detailed analytical attention that it deserves.
There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, Than are dreamt of in your philosophy.
You're welcome :)
It was a fun thought experiment.
Choosy Feebas choose Leopold Bloom nipples
Daring. Sensual. Invigorating. Squirrel.
BLOOM. For men.
It was clearly a home run. It not only looked like one (especially from a guy standing 1 foot away), but the sound made it totally obvious
I’m sorry, but it’s just damn stupid to expect a guy to play that ball. In fact, the ONLY reason he would have for doing it would be to try to be sneaky and do something unsportsmanlike to sell a play that he knew didn’t happen. How was he supposed to know the umpire didn’t see the play right?
I can’t think of any home run in the history of the damn sport where the outfielder knew the result and still looked to the umpire to be sure. That’s not how it works.
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by thejd44 on Aug 17, 2010 2:48 PM PDT up reply actions
When we choose up sidesfor the 3rd Annual AN softball game ...
… I’m not picking you.
The meaning of life is not so much 'found,' as it is 'made.' --Opus
by The Dogfather on Aug 17, 2010 3:18 PM PDT up reply actions
So the plan is...
Sign Choice (already done)
Sign Yordy
?
Profit
Is this the real life-
Is this just fantasy-
Caught in a landslide-
No escape from reality-
pgammo
One Mariners person says Ichiro has talked to ownership about hiring Bobby Valentine, Suzuki’s preference
1 minute ago via web
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by Rated-R Superstar on Aug 16, 2010 9:38 AM PDT reply actions
That could work, actually.
If Bobby just speaks Japanese to everyone, it will take him a lot longer than usual to piss off the other 24 guys.
"PECOTA can pretty much kiss my ass."-Nico
by jeepers on Aug 16, 2010 9:41 AM PDT up reply actions 3 recs
this is quite funny
What we’re asking is for people to stop pretending that ipse dixit counts as a "source." When you make a claim about baseball, you should be willing to put some reasonable amount of effort into explaining why it’s correct if someone asks you to. That’s basic respect for the other poster. - PT
by designatedforassignment on Aug 16, 2010 11:33 AM PDT up reply actions
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叙事詩のイチローは不適切なサーを証明する！
Is this the real life-
Is this just fantasy-
Caught in a landslide-
No escape from reality-
I don't have a problem with it, but the exclamation point is a bit much.
I hate Bob Geren and his peanut brain so much -- lenscrafters
by WaddellCanseco on Aug 16, 2010 10:05 AM PDT up reply actions
Happy fun post!
Love squirrel says hello! Dancing honorable bed makes loud sigh.
sock puppets have never successfully defended castles, except when working with squirrels, which would never happen because squirrels know better than to trust sock puppets, except when their nipples have magical powers. -nm
by Leopold Bloom on Aug 16, 2010 1:24 PM PDT up reply actions
Agreed
AN: Where you will be an A's fan or Dallas Braden will show you the repercussions of your actions.
by stranahanahan on Aug 16, 2010 10:45 AM PDT up reply actions
This is true, though Bobby Valentine isn't a bad choice for manager.
Still, giving a player that kind of power isn’t a great idea.
www.zekeishungry.com
by thejd44 on Aug 16, 2010 1:59 PM PDT up reply actions
Meh, he's already the face of the franchise.
Might as well keep him happy.
"You see, in this world there's two kinds of people, my friend: Those with loaded guns and those who dig. You dig."
If that roster had 25 guys on it who played with heart and hustle, or even nine guys, you might have a point.
But Ichiro is the only dude out there hustling for that squad. Maybe Mike Sweeney.
by StJosephBurningTheOakTreesToTheGround on Aug 18, 2010 11:59 AM PDT up reply actions
But probably not Mike Sweeney
since he’s playing for the Phillies now ;)
"And Julio Franco is batting right-handed!" -- Wayne Hagin, A's radio play-by-play, mid-80s
Isn't Bobby Valentine the one who hates the A's?
AN: Where you will be an A's fan or Dallas Braden will show you the repercussions of your actions.
by stranahanahan on Aug 16, 2010 10:48 AM PDT up reply actions
rather have him hate the A's
than be like showalter and not know who they are despite managing in the same division for years
Links to dump...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dFypAB7nYGA&videos=VrZDthXB8gk
http://www.nypost.com/p/sports/mets/mets_have_no_workable_way_vmND2BEXHd2RMBgwVk8HrL
^ The Mets are in a sticky situation RE 2011 payroll.
Half-price Beltran we can has???
Is this the real life-
Is this just fantasy-
Caught in a landslide-
No escape from reality-
Remember that last off-season the Mets, Yankees and Red Sox, were all involved in OF acquisitions, but none
of them bid high on Holliday, who ended up with $17mm to stay with his current organization (less than Texeiera got, despite the fact Holliday is a better player). In addition to half-price, Beltran, I think payroll crunch is important to remember when considering the feasibility of signing Crawford or Werth. A lot of people have assumed these guys will end up on the Red Sox or Yankees, or that Crawford will get more than $20mm/year, but I wouldn’t be surprised if this is not the case. It also means that you might be able to squeeze a good deal out of a team like the Cubs, Dodgers or Mets in a trade. Assuming the A’s really do have $25mm or more to spend, the economic environment in baseball could really end up helping them out.
And I still think the odds of the A's landing Crawford are pretty remote, but my point is that when
your working in an environment where teams like the Cubs, Mets, Dodgers, Diamondbacks, Orioles, Indians, Mariners, and Rangers are all likely sellers, and teams like the Red Sox and Phillies aren’t exactly big time buyers, you should be able to swing something good.
Texas' new owners have been talking about making a big run at Lee long term
What we’re asking is for people to stop pretending that ipse dixit counts as a "source." When you make a claim about baseball, you should be willing to put some reasonable amount of effort into explaining why it’s correct if someone asks you to. That’s basic respect for the other poster. - PT
by designatedforassignment on Aug 16, 2010 1:41 PM PDT up reply actions
I'm thinking a 9 year, $220 million deal would be awesome
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by thejd44 on Aug 16, 2010 2:00 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
9 years per year?!?!?
An exponentially increasing contract?
"Life is a horizontal fall" -Jean Cocteau
by King Richard on Aug 16, 2010 2:10 PM PDT up reply actions
BREAKING: Cliff Lee signs the following contract with the Rangers:
2011: $25,000,000, 1st year of $220,000,000 guaranteed 2011-2019.
2012: $50,000,000 — $25,000,000, 2nd year of $220,000,000 guaranteed 2011-2019, AND $25,000,000, 1st year of $220,000,000 guaranteed 2012-2020.
2013: $75,000,000 — $25,000,000, 3rd year of $220,000,000 guaranteed 2011-2019, AND $25,000,000, 2nd year of $220,000,000 guaranteed 2012-2020 AND $25,000,000, 1st year of $220,000,000 guaranteed 2013-2021.
2014: $100,000,000 — $25,000,000, 4th year of $220,000,000 guaranteed 2011-2019, AND $25,000,000, 3rd year of $220,000,000 guaranteed 2012-2020 AND $25,000,000, 2nd year of $220,000,000 guaranteed 2013-2021, AND $25,000,000, 1st year of $220,000,000 guaranteed 2014-2022.
2015: $125,000,000 — $25,000,000, 5th year of $220,000,000 guaranteed 2011-2019, AND $25,000,000, 4th year of $220,000,000 guaranteed 2012-2020 AND $25,000,000, 3rd year of $220,000,000 guaranteed 2013-2021, AND $25,000,000, 2nd year of $220,000,000 guaranteed 2014-2022, AND $25,000,000, 1st year of $220,000,000 guaranteed 2015-2023.
2016: $150,000,000 — $25,000,000, 6th year of $220,000,000 guaranteed 2011-2019, AND $25,000,000, 5th year of $220,000,000 guaranteed 2012-2020 AND $25,000,000, 4th year of $220,000,000 guaranteed 2013-2021, AND $25,000,000, 3rd year of $220,000,000 guaranteed 2014-2022, AND $25,000,000, 2nd year of $220,000,000 guaranteed 2015-2023, AND $25,000,000, 1st year of $220,000,000 guaranteed 2016-2024.
2017: $175,000,000 — $25,000,000, 7th year of $220,000,000 guaranteed 2011-2019, AND $25,000,000, 6th year of $220,000,000 guaranteed 2012-2020 AND $25,000,000, 5th year of $220,000,000 guaranteed 2013-2021, AND $25,000,000, 4th year of $220,000,000 guaranteed 2014-2022, AND $25,000,000, 3rd year of $220,000,000 guaranteed 2015-2023, AND $25,000,000, 2nd year of $220,000,000 guaranteed 2016-2024, AND $25,000,000, 1st year of $220,000,000 guaranteed 2017-2025.
2018: $200,000,000 — $25,000,000, 8th year of $220,000,000 guaranteed 2011-2019, AND $25,000,000, 7th year of $220,000,000 guaranteed 2012-2020 AND $25,000,000, 6th year of $220,000,000 guaranteed 2013-2021, AND $25,000,000, 5th year of $220,000,000 guaranteed 2014-2022, AND $25,000,000, 4th year of $220,000,000 guaranteed 2015-2023, AND $25,000,000, 3rd year of $220,000,000 guaranteed 2016-2024, AND $25,000,000, 2nd year of $220,000,000 guaranteed 2017-2025, AND $25,000,000, 1st year of $220,000,000 guaranteed 2018-2026.
2019: $220,000,000 — $20,000,000, 9th year of $220,000,000 guaranteed 2011-2019, AND $25,000,000, 8th year of $220,000,000 guaranteed 2012-2020 AND $25,000,000, 7th year of $220,000,000 guaranteed 2013-2021, AND $25,000,000, 6th year of $220,000,000 guaranteed 2014-2022, AND $25,000,000, 5th year of $220,000,000 guaranteed 2015-2023, AND $25,000,000, 4th year of $220,000,000 guaranteed 2016-2024, AND $25,000,000, 3rd year of $220,000,000 guaranteed 2017-2025, AND $25,000,000, 2nd year of $220,000,000 guaranteed 2018-2026, AND $25,000,000, 1st year of $220,000,000 guaranteed 2019-2027.
2020: $195,000,000 — $20,000,000, 9th year of $220,000,000 guaranteed 2012-2020 AND $25,000,000, 8th year of $220,000,000 guaranteed 2013-2021, AND $25,000,000, 7th year of $220,000,000 guaranteed 2014-2022, AND $25,000,000, 6th year of $220,000,000 guaranteed 2015-2023, AND $25,000,000, 5th year of $220,000,000 guaranteed 2016-2024, AND $25,000,000, 4th year of $220,000,000 guaranteed 2017-2025, AND $25,000,000, 3rd year of $220,000,000 guaranteed 2018-2026, AND $25,000,000, 2nd year of $220,000,000 guaranteed 2019-2027.
2021: $170,000,000 — $20,000,000, 9th year of $220,000,000 guaranteed 2013-2021, AND $25,000,000, 8th year of $220,000,000 guaranteed 2014-2022, AND $25,000,000, 7th year of $220,000,000 guaranteed 2015-2023, AND $25,000,000, 6th year of $220,000,000 guaranteed 2016-2024, AND $25,000,000, 5th year of $220,000,000 guaranteed 2017-2025, AND $25,000,000, 4th year of $220,000,000 guaranteed 2018-2026, AND $25,000,000, 3rd year of $220,000,000 guaranteed 2019-2027.
2022: $145,000,000 — $20,000,000, 9th year of $220,000,000 guaranteed 2014-2022, AND $25,000,000, 8th year of $220,000,000 guaranteed 2015-2023, AND $25,000,000, 7th year of $220,000,000 guaranteed 2016-2024, AND $25,000,000, 6th year of $220,000,000 guaranteed 2017-2025, AND $25,000,000, 5th year of $220,000,000 guaranteed 2018-2026, AND $25,000,000, 4th year of $220,000,000 guaranteed 2019-2027.
2023: $120,000,000 — $20,000,000, 9th year of $220,000,000 guaranteed 2015-2023, AND $25,000,000, 8th year of $220,000,000 guaranteed 2016-2024, AND $25,000,000, 7th year of $220,000,000 guaranteed 2017-2025, AND $25,000,000, 6th year of $220,000,000 guaranteed 2018-2026, AND $25,000,000, 5th year of $220,000,000 guaranteed 2019-2027.
2024: $95,000,000 — $20,000,000, 9th year of $220,000,000 guaranteed 2016-2024, AND $25,000,000, 8th year of $220,000,000 guaranteed 2017-2025, AND $25,000,000, 7th year of $220,000,000 guaranteed 2018-2026, AND $25,000,000, 6th year of $220,000,000 guaranteed 2019-2027.
2025: $70,000,000 — $20,000,000, 9th year of $220,000,000 guaranteed 2017-2025, AND $25,000,000, 8th year of $220,000,000 guaranteed 2018-2026, AND $25,000,000, 7th year of $220,000,000 guaranteed 2019-2027.
2026: $45,000,000 — $20,000,000, 9th year of $220,000,000 guaranteed 2018-2026, AND $25,000,000, 8th year of $220,000,000 guaranteed 2019-2027.
2027: $20,000,000 — final year of $220,000,000 guaranteed 2019-2027.
total value: 17 years, $1,980,000,000 ($1.98 billion).
Hope he doesn’t get injured.
"Life is a horizontal fall" -Jean Cocteau
by King Richard on Aug 16, 2010 2:52 PM PDT up reply actions 5 recs
I wonder what country he buys when he's done playing.
Choosy Feebas choose Leopold Bloom nipples
Daring. Sensual. Invigorating. Squirrel.
BLOOM. For men.
Cuba.
"You see, in this world there's two kinds of people, my friend: Those with loaded guns and those who dig. You dig."
Me too.
Plus, giving it a Rec without actually reading it all will reward King Richard without having my head explode.
www.zekeishungry.com
by thejd44 on Aug 16, 2010 4:46 PM PDT up reply actions
Or 20 mill less than Arod.
Keep in mind, of course, that "the best defense of Derek Jeter's life" ranks somewhere in between "the best fiscal responsibility of Mike Tyson's life" and "the best not-getting-assassinated-ness of James Garfield's life." -FJM
dude thats not even the richest contract in team history. think 10/252 :)
What we’re asking is for people to stop pretending that ipse dixit counts as a "source." When you make a claim about baseball, you should be willing to put some reasonable amount of effort into explaining why it’s correct if someone asks you to. That’s basic respect for the other poster. - PT
by designatedforassignment on Aug 16, 2010 2:02 PM PDT up reply actions
You're saying it's awesome because they could 2-3 World Series in that time?
I hate Bob Geren and his peanut brain so much -- lenscrafters
by WaddellCanseco on Aug 16, 2010 2:25 PM PDT up reply actions
yes I too am having trouble following why it would be good to face Lee in our division.
by Billy Frijoles on Aug 16, 2010 2:31 PM PDT up reply actions
because they think hes going to break down
What we’re asking is for people to stop pretending that ipse dixit counts as a "source." When you make a claim about baseball, you should be willing to put some reasonable amount of effort into explaining why it’s correct if someone asks you to. That’s basic respect for the other poster. - PT
by designatedforassignment on Aug 16, 2010 2:35 PM PDT up reply actions
He already had a breakdown in that one start on national TV
Totally cruised through 6 and then blew up in the 7th.
Pam liked my old sig better.
I don't see the Rangers turning into Yankees West
FA pitcher contracts have some horrible, horrible history behind them, and having the Rangers tied down to an albatross of epic proportions.
And, that money can’t be spent on other things. I’d rather a large chunk of payroll be sunk into Michael Young and Cliff Lee than spent on good young guys.
Needs moar dingerz.
Maybe, but then they'd have 5 or more years and 100+ million of baaad money
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by thejd44 on Aug 16, 2010 4:47 PM PDT up reply actions
It's awesome because he's overrated.
If we get our offense up to snuff and our pitching stays right, we can beat that dude. We have beaten that dude. And the way the Rangers overpitch him (and everyone else on their staff) there’s no way he stays healthy.
by StJosephBurningTheOakTreesToTheGround on Aug 18, 2010 12:02 PM PDT up reply actions
Cliff Lee is not "overrated"
He’s ridiculously, ridiculously good.
Now, whether he’s going to be as good next year, or the year after that, is up for grabs. Pitcher contracts are a risk, even to the absolute most elite pitchers.
Needs moar dingerz.
Holliday's a better player than Teixeira? Really?
"You see, in this world there's two kinds of people, my friend: Those with loaded guns and those who dig. You dig."
He has been in 2010 without a doubt. Holliday has been one of the best players in baseball ranking 11th in WAR.
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by Rated-R Superstar on Aug 16, 2010 3:31 PM PDT up reply actions
I'm not buying it.
But then I dislike Holliday.
"You see, in this world there's two kinds of people, my friend: Those with loaded guns and those who dig. You dig."
Having a better year is not necessarily the same thing as being a better player.
Bob Geren... Jackie Moore without the personality.
I know. That’s why I specifically just mentioned 2010.
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by Rated-R Superstar on Aug 16, 2010 4:03 PM PDT up reply actions
I think he's a better player overall. He's been better for the past 5 years.
Worth almost a win per season more from 2006-2010.
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by thejd44 on Aug 16, 2010 4:50 PM PDT up reply actions
Even during the season when one of them was making an active effort to suck because he hated his team?
Even during that year?
by StJosephBurningTheOakTreesToTheGround on Aug 18, 2010 12:03 PM PDT up reply actions
Would you care to back up this libel with something that vaguely resembles "evidence"?
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can I ask a favor?
If you use the subject line I would appreciate it as it helps when doing searches for comments that you write.
Thanks
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by Rated-R Superstar on Aug 16, 2010 10:36 AM PDT reply actions
Anyone think the Dodgers will actually be able to sign Zack Lee?
I think they’re just acting like they’re trying to satisfy the commissioner’s office…
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no they won't
Top 5 talent that will take even more money to sign.
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by designatedforassignment on Aug 16, 2010 11:34 AM PDT up reply actions
Buggars... the Angles got Kaleb Cowart. I was hoping he wouldn't sign. Really liked the kid.
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by designatedforassignment on Aug 16, 2010 11:36 AM PDT reply actions
anyone else that you think probably won't sign that the a's should go after?
Based on your “draft druthers” posts I figure you probably follow this stuff closer than most of us. A short list would be nice to look at.
Also – if they don’t sign by the signing deadline, are they automatically FA’s? Do they just go to college? What is the process?
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by Billy Frijoles on Aug 16, 2010 1:01 PM PDT up reply actions
The A's can't really go after anyone
If a player doesn’t agree to a deal then they have to wait a year (or 3 for high schoolers attending college) and enter the draft again. I think there is a different procedure for college seniors who have graduated and don’t sign but that doesn’t really happen very much and isn’t much of a concern.
Other teams failing to sign their draft picks doesn’t really affect us other than allowing for a bit of schadenfreude due to a rival losing out on a potential valuable asset.
College seniors have a much later deadline to sign
The M’s didn’t have to sign Josh Fields until January or February of next year, IIRC.
Needs moar dingerz.
Actually not until the week before the draft
Some thought the new leadership would blow him off with a lowball offer and take the re-pick, but (unfortunately for them) they didn’t do that.
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How come college players have to wait 3 years?
"You see, in this world there's two kinds of people, my friend: Those with loaded guns and those who dig. You dig."
I'm not sure how it came to be,
probably some agreement between NCAA and MLB to help programs keep their kids longer but if a high school kid enrolls at a 4-year college he is not eligible for the draft for another 3 years. There are some exceptions for older kids which leads to draft-eligible sophomores and in some rare cases draft-eligible freshmen, but for the most part high schoolers are making at least a 3 year commitment when they enroll at school.
Is it the same in basketball?
I know in American football you have to be three years removed from high school to be eligible – but in basketball/baseball (and I think ice hockey too) you can be drafted straight out of high school, so it’s weird that if you go to college you’re stuck there for 3 years.
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Basketball is different
A player isn’t eligible for the NBA draft until 1 year after his high school class graduates whether he goes to college or not. I don’t know how baseball got the idea that it’s okay to draft players out of high school but if they go to college you have to wait 3 years to get another shot at them. I’m guessing it has something to do with the NCAA because the waiting period doesn’t apply to junior colleges.
basketball use to be able to draft only after your juinor year.
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by designatedforassignment on Aug 16, 2010 3:48 PM PDT up reply actions
When Magic Johnson left he had to declare "hardship"
"The ego, the super-ego, and the Ed" - dannycakes
Same with Isaiah Thomas, Moses Malone, Darrell Dawkins, IIRC
"And Julio Franco is batting right-handed!" -- Wayne Hagin, A's radio play-by-play, mid-80s
So what the hell does the player do for a year?
"You see, in this world there's two kinds of people, my friend: Those with loaded guns and those who dig. You dig."
Baseball has a long history...
…of having a legitimate player development system in place, whereas the other sports do not. At least not in any significant sense.
As far as the 3 year wait, I seem to recall reading something in one of Bill Veeck’s books about MLB working with colleges when starting the draft to try and make it work for both sides, though I forget the particulars.
Bob Geren... Jackie Moore without the personality.
They're almost never automatically FAs.
and it depends on NCAA eligibility whether they can play collegiate ball
For example, Tanner Scheppers was drafted in 2008 by the Pirates in the supp round and didn’t sign. However, since he had significant contact with an agent, he couldn’t go back to school, and had to go play independent ball for a year until the Rangers nabbed him.
However, with Zack Lee, I think the family is intentionally trying to avoid blatant agent contact, as to keep NCAA eligibility if Lee wants to play football or baseball at LSU. A player and his parents can directly negotiate with an MLB team that drafts him and still be NCAA eligible, but an agent can’t negotiate for them.
There is one loophole though, and that’s that Lee could have an “advisor” who tells him and his family what to do, but that advisor can’t represent him in negotiations. Scott Boras could be his advisor and he could still go to LSU as long as Boras didn’t negotiate with the Dodgers.
However, a HS player can go to a junior college and play even if he dealt with an agent, and be draft eligible, since I don’t think jucos are under NCAA regulations.
Needs moar dingerz.
Yeah this is the bigest crock of shit ever (were in a DLD right?)
They expect 17/18 yo kids to negotiate with fricking MLB half billion dollar teams and make the most important decision of their lives? The NCAA should absolutely allow for agents for the good of the players.
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by designatedforassignment on Aug 16, 2010 1:44 PM PDT up reply actions
Totally agree (and yes)
I don’t know how the Matt Purke situation went though, since he went to TCU
Needs moar dingerz.
This is dumb, but...
…the NCAA has even dumber rules regarding sports and eligibility.
Bob Geren... Jackie Moore without the personality.
Meh.
These guys make their money either way. Not too concerned for them.
by StJosephBurningTheOakTreesToTheGround on Aug 18, 2010 12:07 PM PDT up reply actions
... you have absolutely no idea what you're talking about.
As has been repeatedly discussed on another thread, most players expend their entire signing bonus, and often actually lose money, just to try to make the major leagues. Which the vast majority never do.
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Well Cabrera, Shipman, and Lewis are musts
Wade Kirkland is a Eckstien grit type player at 2b thats production out paces his tools at 15.
Michael Anarumo I don’t know much about but comes from a good small school program in Le Moyne in I think the 24th
I was glad they signed Pineda
Other than that everybody looks to be “hate drafts” or signed. A hate draft is someone who you have absolutely no shot at but you just take a flier.
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by designatedforassignment on Aug 16, 2010 2:01 PM PDT up reply actions
smoak was more legit than a hate draft
he was drafted high enought that you are signaling that you will absolutely make a run at them and that the shot is worth more than having a MR or org bat.
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by designatedforassignment on Aug 16, 2010 2:03 PM PDT up reply actions
Kirkland signed a long time ago.
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by lenscrafters on Aug 16, 2010 2:04 PM PDT up reply actions
Youre right I was thinking of Woodward
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by designatedforassignment on Aug 16, 2010 2:12 PM PDT up reply actions
He played in the game I saw in Everett.
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I'm guessing you meant Scott Woodward instead of Kirkland
It looked like he might get the Dusty Coleman, go to the Cape Cod league and prove you deserve an overslot bonus treatment but after he busted up his leg I would imagine he is pretty much a sure thing to go back to school.
yeah this
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by designatedforassignment on Aug 16, 2010 2:12 PM PDT up reply actions
Kirkland signed already
And is “holding up” in Vancouver…
.301 AVG
63 Hits
15 2B
2 3B
4 SB (1 CS)
Those all look like good numbers…it’s just that his BB:SO ration of 7:42 is pretty bad.
I’ll take that for an 11th RD selection though.
by bakerbeachboy on Aug 16, 2010 2:09 PM PDT up reply actions
ugg thats fugly k/bb
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by designatedforassignment on Aug 16, 2010 2:13 PM PDT up reply actions
heh
fugly…that’s a good description of it :)
by bakerbeachboy on Aug 16, 2010 2:21 PM PDT up reply actions
If youre going to dream on the hate draft level Id love Knapp the Granite Bay catcher going to Cal has Stassi like upside
or Kauippila who is a fine gloveman but might not hit thats going to stanford a couple rounds later
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by designatedforassignment on Aug 16, 2010 2:16 PM PDT up reply actions
I like pie.
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by Leopold Bloom on Aug 16, 2010 2:17 PM PDT up reply actions
I prefer cake.
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that is a horrible preference, but that leaves more pie for mEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEeeeeee!!!!!!!!!!!!1
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by designatedforassignment on Aug 16, 2010 3:03 PM PDT up reply actions
S'more pie?
Awwwesome. Especially when you inadvertently light it on fire in the oven.
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I am a far better cook than that.
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by designatedforassignment on Aug 16, 2010 3:28 PM PDT up reply actions
It didn't harm the pie at all
The marshmellow lit on fire. Totally awesome.
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Dude
100% honesty here…
I had S’more cake this weekend at a party. S’more as in graham cracker, marshmellow, chocolate-y goodness.
It was awesome.
by bakerbeachboy on Aug 16, 2010 3:28 PM PDT up reply actions
I agree. Pie > any real cake any day
Ice cream cake, cheesecake, etc. all doesn’t count here.
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by thejd44 on Aug 16, 2010 4:54 PM PDT up reply actions
i knew i liked you
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by designatedforassignment on Aug 16, 2010 5:00 PM PDT up reply actions
Pie vs cake
It’s the only really important question on AN.
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not a real cake
also I made an espresso cheesecake with an oreo crust for my girlfriend this weekend. It was quite good.
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by designatedforassignment on Aug 16, 2010 3:20 PM PDT up reply actions
I'm not debating the realness of it.
It’s better. FACT. Fuck your stats, basement-boy!
BOOYAH.
Pam liked my old sig better.
its cheese it isn't cake
cheese is superior to pie
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by designatedforassignment on Aug 16, 2010 4:53 PM PDT up reply actions
cheese > pie >>> cake
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by designatedforassignment on Aug 16, 2010 5:01 PM PDT up reply actions
thats not cheese thats processed crap.
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by designatedforassignment on Aug 16, 2010 5:09 PM PDT up reply actions
I don't care how much they cost
I want Wolff/Forst/Beane to just sign all of those mofos. They’re all buyable.
(i know, not my money, but Choice was relatively cheap, and I enjoy ridiculous draft spending)
Needs moar dingerz.
This. I want to spend 60m on the draft and IFA in one year and then go out and get Darvish
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by designatedforassignment on Aug 16, 2010 2:36 PM PDT up reply actions
Oh dude
I’m with you on Kauippila. I would have LOVED if the A’s would sign him away from Stanford.
by bakerbeachboy on Aug 16, 2010 2:22 PM PDT up reply actions
From what I've heard
He has a really strong commitment to Stanford…unfortunately.
by bakerbeachboy on Aug 16, 2010 2:45 PM PDT up reply actions
exactly he is the type that would do well to go to college
if he fills out and can hit he will be a good pro player if he cant hes got a hella good college edu for free and wouldn’t have panned out anyway.
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by designatedforassignment on Aug 16, 2010 3:01 PM PDT up reply actions
Good point
What exactly is the “Stanford swing” that I keep hearing about? If it does exist so-to-speak, would it be something that would benefit a player like Kauippila?
by bakerbeachboy on Aug 16, 2010 3:12 PM PDT up reply actions
They teach everbody the same swing supposedly and its a line drive for metal swing according to rumors
I think its over exaggerated.
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by designatedforassignment on Aug 16, 2010 3:17 PM PDT up reply actions
no but drafting coaches/FO players kids really really late is pretty common
its sympathy drafting, which is worse than hate drafting.
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by designatedforassignment on Aug 16, 2010 3:02 PM PDT up reply actions
I certainly hated it.
"You see, in this world there's two kinds of people, my friend: Those with loaded guns and those who dig. You dig."
No
Hate drafting is when you take a player you can’t sign so that someone else won’t be able to sign him for an overslot bonus.
Geren’s son was rather the opposite of a hate draft (a love draft?), in that no one but the A’s was remotely interested.
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by Rated-R Superstar on Aug 16, 2010 11:36 AM PDT reply actions
Why not just wait till the off-season or keep him?
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by WaddellCanseco on Aug 16, 2010 12:31 PM PDT up reply actions
He'll be a FA long before the Orioles are good
But I agree with the first part. No need to trade him now. The offseason will work just fine.
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by thejd44 on Aug 16, 2010 2:01 PM PDT up reply actions
Does anyone think the Nationals might not sign Bryce Harper?
how often does the #1 pick of the draft go unsigned?
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Scott Boras isn't dumb
Harper will get much more money going this year than he will next year when he will slip due to bonus demands and there will be many more elite talents.
Rizzo is a scout. His forte is the draft. This is the guy who drafted almost the entire DBacks’ core, and most of the prospects that got traded for Haren (I think all but Carter).
The Nationals have plenty of leverage, as two picks in the top 15 in next year’s draft, including the #2 overall pick, is MASSIVE and not really a big loss. Both sides have leverage.
Needs moar dingerz.
Yeah
Harper will sign. And they’re about to sign AJ Cole too (if they haven’t already)…
The Nationals have a killer 2010 draft class (once Harper and Cole sign).
by bakerbeachboy on Aug 16, 2010 2:01 PM PDT up reply actions
Sorry Blicks
That was supposed to be in response to micdog.
by bakerbeachboy on Aug 16, 2010 2:01 PM PDT up reply actions
It's all good :)
AJ Cole has pretty much already signed, Only reason there’s no official announcement is because of all the silly Selig hand-wringing about slot.
Cole’s 2MM breaks the record set by the A’s Max Stassi last year for a 4th round draft pick.
Needs moar dingerz.
well it is pushing up other kids demands like Whitson
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by designatedforassignment on Aug 16, 2010 2:16 PM PDT up reply actions
Oh, interesting
I would have loved for the A’s to have picked Cole…but not in any of the first 3 rounds. I wonder if he was higher on the A’s draft board than Chad Lewis (who we ended up taking in the 4th after the Nationals selected Cole in the 4th)?
by bakerbeachboy on Aug 16, 2010 2:19 PM PDT up reply actions
That's what happens when you get the #1 pick. Look at the Devil Rays.
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I just read the article on harper
It said he went 6-6 with 4 HRs in a JC world series game.
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Pfft.
What the hell was he doing the other two at-bats? Did he need them to move the fences in?
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Better question
Why were they even pitching to him to allow him home run #3 & 4?
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I would love to find out that they weren't, and he just jacked a couple of intentional balls.
by StJosephBurningTheOakTreesToTheGround on Aug 18, 2010 12:14 PM PDT up reply actions
"Maybe if I pitch it towards the dug out, he won't be able to touch it"
(stretches out of the batter’s box and…)
BOOOOOM!
“Damn. So much for that idea.”
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by Rated-R Superstar on Aug 16, 2010 1:34 PM PDT reply actions
Maybe
Certainly the only position that he can “play” is DH…
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I'm starting to get excited AJ-KJ
For a guy who’s a real TTO guy, many were worried he’d run into trouble with the K’s. 59:45 K:BB ratio is quite better than I think many expected.
Would like to see him moved to KC and start next year in Stockton
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Whoa he'd be jumping many levels....like a pogo stick
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by WaddellCanseco on Aug 16, 2010 2:24 PM PDT up reply actions
The ratio is nice but the K's are something to be concerned about
He is striking out in 32% of his at bats against short season pitchers, I don’t think he needs to be put on the fast track.
I try not to read to deeply into short season stats on recent draftees because it’s hard to tell how much the transition to professional ball is affecting a particular player. I do think Kirby-Jones will be fun to follow because he appears to be pretty much as advertised. It looks like he will K a lot, take a bunch of walks and has real power (.200+ iso in a tough hitting environment in Vancouver is very nice). All players have different development paths but it is worth remembering that most TTO guys like Dunn or Cust weren’t like that in the minors. It’s going to be a very tough road for a guy who strikes out that much in the low minors to ever make it to the majors.
I dn't worry because hes also walking something fierce
it would be interesting though to see if high K high BB turns out better than Med K Med BB
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by designatedforassignment on Aug 16, 2010 2:38 PM PDT up reply actions
I'm still worried
He is definitely walking enough and showing enough power to make up for all the K’s but he’s got a lot of levels of minor league ball to get through. My impression is that as the quality of pitchers improves the natural tendency is for a hitters K-rate to rise while the BB-rate goes down. KJ is going to have to do a lot of work to maintain his current rates and he can’t afford much slippage.
Like I said above, I like to wait until after a guy has had a full off-season of instruction and acclimation to being a pro before coming to any conclusions but my gut feeling is that his contact issues make him a very long shot to make it to the big leagues.
Not sure where you got your percentage, but my calculations he should have a 24.6% K rate.
Which is still high, but not nearly as bad as 32%. Especially accompanied by that nice 18.8% BB rate.
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by King Richard on Aug 16, 2010 3:03 PM PDT up reply actions
I went with K/AB rather than K/PA
I’m not really sure what is the preferred way to look at prospect K rates but I thought it was clear in my comment that I was talking about percentage of his at bats.
I love me some AJ-KJ too
Definitely great to see him racking up the walks in Vancouver. For what it’s worth, he put up a massive OBP of .531 his last year in college (including 58 walks in 275 PA).
I would start him in KC next year. He’s only 21 (through the end of this year…DOB 10.2.88) so it’s not that he’s exceptionally old or anything. The dude is currently hitting .245/.404/.452 (.856 OPS). I wouldn’t even mind if he was a level a year guy in hopes that it would help him maintain (or improve) his current production. In that scenario he’d be in his first AAA season at age 25.
I completely agree with one of the posters here on AN as well (I think it was notsellingjeans)…develop/sign/etc a permanent DH. It’s a “position”. I want someone that can hit and get on base in this slot…not someone just filling in for the day to get some reps. I hate it when teams use the DH mainly as a slot to give guys a “day off”.
Sorry for that little rant…the point of it being though, i think AJ-KJ is exactly the kind of player you could “groom” to be a DH. He’s not gonna be an asset definsively to your team, but he sure as hell can be in the batter’s box.
by bakerbeachboy on Aug 16, 2010 2:44 PM PDT up reply actions
[insert repetitive rant about how Carter's proper position is DH here]
"We don't want our people to be preoccupied with seminude, crazy men jumping up and down who are chasing an inflated object," said Sheik Mohamed Osman Arus, head of operations for the Hizbul Islam insurgent group.
Possible good news...
Susan Slusser susanslusser
RT @Kevin_Goldstein: Not done yet, but almost assuredly will tomorrow. More than 7 figures. #Athletics RT @Dave_Gershman: Yordy Cabrera yes?
That was posted yesterday
So we should hear something today
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by stranahanahan on Aug 16, 2010 2:51 PM PDT up reply actions
Strasburg's comments towards Harper really run me the wrong way
“If he wants to play here, then he is going to play here,” Strasburg said. “He doesn’t need any advice from anybody. You don’t need to convince him otherwise. If he doesn’t want to play here, then we don’t want him here — bottom line. We want guys who want to play on this team. It’s really important.”
http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20100815&content_id=13484368¬ebook_id=13510628
I mean, seriously??! He’s doing the exact same thing that you did last year but now that you’re on the team it’s not ok?
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He did? I thought Strasburg was an easy (if expensive) sign?
"You see, in this world there's two kinds of people, my friend: Those with loaded guns and those who dig. You dig."
He was right up to the last minute too
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by stranahanahan on Aug 16, 2010 4:48 PM PDT up reply actions
OaklandAs
#Athletics reinstate Jackson from DL, recall Buck from Sacramento, option Carter and Larish to Sacramento.
1 minute ago via web
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by Rated-R Superstar on Aug 16, 2010 3:14 PM PDT reply actions
If that's true...
poor Carter. I really wanted to see him get his first hit. Hard to go back down with nothing to show for it.
Carter optioned? WHAT THE FUCK.
Performance wise, yes he deserves it.
But, morale wise, why the hell? Do Beane and co really need to defecate on Carter’s morale.
Needs moar dingerz.
Hard to judge about morale issues
I mean how do we know that a demotion is worse for his morale than getting owned night in and night out by major league pitchers in front of major league crowds and people watching on television?
well just so carter knows i don't own a TV
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by designatedforassignment on Aug 16, 2010 3:25 PM PDT up reply actions
I'm just not sure that this counts as jerking him around
Maybe it was always going to be a situation where he was just up until Jackson got healthy unless he really made it so the team couldn’t send him back down. I would’ve liked to see the Chris Carter era in Oakland get started but giving a prospect a one week taste of the show while your regulars are hurt is not necessarily a bad thing.
Hopefully there was good communication between the team and Carter regarding the reasons for his promotion and subsequent demotion.
yeah right
Hopefully there was good communication between the team and Carter regarding the reasons for his promotion and subsequent demotion.
It’s the A’s, that is doubtful.
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Yeah, morale issues are my biggest concern too
But, I would hope to god that the FO knows the importance of Carter panning out to this organization.
Hopefully they had a good talk with him when they told him he was heading back to Sac.
by bakerbeachboy on Aug 16, 2010 3:39 PM PDT up reply actions
Aw. Poor Carter.
Would’ve like to see him get a hit before he was sent back down. Hopefully he won’t be discouraged or anything.
But hey, Trav!
by whiteshoes40 on Aug 16, 2010 3:18 PM PDT up reply actions
Way to fuck with the best prospect in the system.
What an absolute goddamn joke.
Pam liked my old sig better.
by mikev on Aug 16, 2010 3:19 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
What were you expecting them to do?
I’m honestly surprised he saw as much playing time as he did. That’s not their usual M.O. They usually sit promising prospects on the bench for a fortnight.
"You see, in this world there's two kinds of people, my friend: Those with loaded guns and those who dig. You dig."
so did his service clock start?
really don't care if i ever get back.
by AV on Aug 16, 2010 3:40 PM PDT up reply actions
yes, it did.
any time spent on a 25 man adds to service time.
He didn’t use an option though, since spending most of the season in AAA had already burned one of his option years.
Needs moar dingerz.
i never realized it could do that.
really don't care if i ever get back.
by AV on Aug 16, 2010 5:12 PM PDT up reply actions
Yep
It’s a very misleading metaphor. If you are not actually on a major league roster, you do not accrue service time.
"We don't want our people to be preoccupied with seminude, crazy men jumping up and down who are chasing an inflated object," said Sheik Mohamed Osman Arus, head of operations for the Hizbul Islam insurgent group.
You're awful cranky.
I love Chris Carter as much as anyone, but hey, that’s the business and he’ll be back.
Meanwhile, having Travis up will be fun.
There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, Than are dreamt of in your philosophy.
I support buck being up. Need to find out if hes real and preserve his option.
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by designatedforassignment on Aug 16, 2010 4:56 PM PDT up reply actions
I don't care that much about preserving the option, but
Definitely need to find out if he’s for real, though. For that matter, same for Jackson.
We know Carter has a future here. Buck and Jackson we really don’t know. Time to find out.
There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, Than are dreamt of in your philosophy.
then what was the point of calling him up at all
Buck could have been up and playing this whole time, and if its so important to find out if he can still play you want as much time in the bigss as you can get. Pulling Carter out of AAA where he was tearing it up and then sending him back down after going 0 for a week just smacks of mismanagement.
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by mikev on Aug 16, 2010 5:50 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
Personally, I didn't think there was any point
but there were no reasoned-argument threads about the callup and lots of irrational-fanboy threads, so this is the first time (I think) that I’ve said anything about it…
"We don't want our people to be preoccupied with seminude, crazy men jumping up and down who are chasing an inflated object," said Sheik Mohamed Osman Arus, head of operations for the Hizbul Islam insurgent group.
I love the irrational fan-boy stuff.
I was wooting about Chris Carter as much as anyone.
As for whether it was wise to bring him up … hell, I don’t know. They did, so I enjoyed it. Now he’s back down and that’s fine, too.
Simplest explanation, if you care to use Occam’s Razor, is that they are simply putting out the best available players in terms of expected production right now. Carter, in spite of his bad showing, had some cloud of probability of how good they expected he could be, and the average of that probability can be estimated. Every other player has an expectation level, too. The expectations of the Matts was slowly decreasing, and the expectation of Carter was slowly increasing. At some point they cross and Carter is the better player right now, so up he comes. Now Buck and Jackson are available and they have slightly higher expectations of right-now production.
Whether this is actually what they’re thinking, I don’t know, but it’s a very simple explanation which seems entirely plausible to me.
There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, Than are dreamt of in your philosophy.
by iglew on Aug 16, 2010 6:45 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Yeah, Buck will be fun...
…we’re overdo for another injury.
Bob Geren... Jackie Moore without the personality.
Sigh...
Well, if there is any silver lining to this, I hope Carter maintains rookie eligibility for next year, makes the team in spring training, and takes the AL ROY award in a landslide.
by bakerbeachboy on Aug 16, 2010 3:19 PM PDT up reply actions
ha
I said the same thing in the FP thread
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Wow I'm three days older than Daric...........and he's achieved so much more.
Sigh.
Well I hope he hits a home run tonight – they’re another thing that come around annually for him.
"You see, in this world there's two kinds of people, my friend: Those with loaded guns and those who dig. You dig."
What's the drive like from L.A. to San Francisco, guys?
Long? Hellish? Or awesome?
"You see, in this world there's two kinds of people, my friend: Those with loaded guns and those who dig. You dig."
I’ve never done it, but it’s long.
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by Rated-R Superstar on Aug 16, 2010 3:22 PM PDT up reply actions
I have no idea, I've literally just had the suggestion thrown at me 5 minutes ago.
"You see, in this world there's two kinds of people, my friend: Those with loaded guns and those who dig. You dig."
I-5
Is one of the longest (boring) drives. It’s straight as hell…meaning you could set your cruise control to about 140mph and lock your steering wheel between your knees and take a nap.
by bakerbeachboy on Aug 16, 2010 3:27 PM PDT up reply actions
How many hours are we talking?
And my sister mentioned something about coastal roads with scenery?
I wanted to see NY to be fair, but apparently we’re seeing L.A. instead.
"You see, in this world there's two kinds of people, my friend: Those with loaded guns and those who dig. You dig."
101 is better but it takes longer.
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by designatedforassignment on Aug 16, 2010 3:37 PM PDT up reply actions
Better is good. There's 3 of us driving (I think).
"You see, in this world there's two kinds of people, my friend: Those with loaded guns and those who dig. You dig."
Well sure, if you want to dump all the responsibilities on one person.
"You see, in this world there's two kinds of people, my friend: Those with loaded guns and those who dig. You dig."
a lot longer!
plus the road is super duper curvy and it can be really foggy at night. That being said, it is pretty. We drove down to Avala Beach and then San Diego on the 101 last year around this time.
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oh yeah
I meant Highway 1, not 101.
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Hmmm
I-5 is about a 6 hour drive. If you don’t stop a lot and go at least the speed limit.
Your sister is probably referring to Highway 1. Definitely worth it if you have the time. I think that’s more of a 10 hour drive or so from LA to San Francisco. Curvy 2-lane highway, but it’s definitely a gorgeous drive.
If you’re visiting, I would definitely do Highway 1. Scenery-wise it blows I-5 out of the water and it’s only about 4 hours longer in travel time.
by bakerbeachboy on Aug 16, 2010 3:44 PM PDT up reply actions
Yep.
I-5 is the “need to get there” road. Highway 1 is the “oooh! scenery!” road that you can take if you’re driving for the sake of seeing things.
Compromise...
just take 101 to the Bay Area. Adds an extra hour, but the first half is along the ocean (until just north of Santa Barbara). You can always take a detour to Monterrey or Santa Cruz etc as well
Hwy 1 is an amazing drive
and if you have extra time, you can stop in San Simeon and visit the Hearst Castle, which is really pretty stunning.
If you don’t want to stop that long, I would suggest that you stop at a place called Point Lobos State Reserve, a few miles south of Carmel. It’s like walking into an Ansel Adams photograph, and it’s right on Highway 1 — you could use it as a 30-45 minute rest stop if you want, or stay longer just to absorb the scenery.
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what time are you going?
and how fast do you like to drive?
if you leave in rush hour its hellacious. Even worse if you think that I 5 should be driven at ~90 and your driver insists on going 72
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by designatedforassignment on Aug 16, 2010 3:25 PM PDT up reply actions
yeah i know it should be faster but i like being safe.
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by designatedforassignment on Aug 16, 2010 3:28 PM PDT up reply actions
going less than 75 on I-5 is very unsafe
grandmas go 75 on I-5, its just long and straight and boring
I have done Oakland to LA in 5-6 hours, at night going about 95-100 most of the time, traded of with a friend halfway throu
Be careful when you arrive in L.A., though.
After hours of driving fast through complete nothingness, you get used to it, so then when you do arrive in civilization again 70 mph feels horribly slow to you and you’ll want to keep going fast.
The one and only time I’ve ever gotten a speeding ticket was on the Santa Monica freeway, impatiently passing people at about 75 mph in a 65 mph zone. And I deserved it, too.
On the flip side, if you go Hwy 1, don’t drive fast, because that road, beautiful though it is, is one of the most dangerous in the country.
There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, Than are dreamt of in your philosophy.
going 75mph on a freeway in LA? you must have timed it just right to miss the perpetual 25mph sigalert jam. was it maybe aroud 3am… in the 80’s?
really don't care if i ever get back.
by AV on Aug 16, 2010 4:33 PM PDT up reply actions
I wasn't actually in LA yet.
Just the outer suburbs. Somewhere around Van Nuys maybe? I don’t remember exactly.
Also, this was about 20 years ago.
There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, Than are dreamt of in your philosophy.
called it! this story is not of this millennium.
really don't care if i ever get back.
by AV on Aug 16, 2010 5:10 PM PDT up reply actions
Well, come to think of it, I got my car in 1992,
so not the 1980s. Probably 1993 or 1994.
Wasn’t 3am either. Maybe about 9pm?
There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, Than are dreamt of in your philosophy.
through a chain of mnemonic associations (a tale that features me getting pulled over new year’s day for going 65.1mph, and trying to talk to a cop while wearing makeshift chapstick in the way of glossy red lipstick that i had forgotten i had on, as my girlfriend, who hadn’t forgotten because she could see it, was laughing and making things worse, but anyway…) i want to say that the 65mph limit in non-rural areas went into effect in CA on 1/1/95? i can’t help you pin down the time though.
really don't care if i ever get back.
by AV on Aug 16, 2010 5:44 PM PDT up reply actions
Really, it's a distant memory.
I’m only guessing on the 75-65, too. It may have been 70 in a 60 zone.
All I really remember is that normally I don’t drive fast at all, which is why I never get speeding tickets. However, that stretch of I-5 is so flat and boring and straight that even I give in and go fast, and as a result of that, when I got out of the boring part, the force of habit from hours of driving fast through nowhere put me in a frame of mind where I wanted to keep going fast, so I was speeding where I shouldn’t have been, and I got a ticket that I deserved to get.
I only remember the general themes, not any of the details.
There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, Than are dreamt of in your philosophy.
I hate getting stuck behind somebody in the carpool lane in L.A.
because you can only enter and leave at certain points.
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My one speeding ticket was also on the 5
Kern County, nobody for miles, and I got caught going 90.
"Don't look back. Something might be gaining on you." - Satchel Paige
Must be cursed road, the only 2 tickets I've ever had came making that drive
Once just before the grapevine going south, and the other in Tracy just before the 285. Something about 3+ hours of nothingness puts a little lead in my foot and I get going too fast.
Long and boring
but not terrible. About 6 hours (I think?) via I5, 7 or more via 101.
I prefer I-5 at night.
You’re not seeing anything worthy anyway.
Bob Geren... Jackie Moore without the personality.
I love the middle of the night drive on I-5
"Their batters are patient to the point that it's annoying." -Ryan Franklin
by Helloooo 1st on Aug 16, 2010 5:00 PM PDT up reply actions
My favorite middle-of-the-night, middle-of-nowhere
is that cutoff road where you split off I-80 to go north on I-5. Is that 505?
I like to pull over and turn off the lights because it’s pitch black out there except for the stars. Sweet.
There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, Than are dreamt of in your philosophy.
Yeah that's 505
I’ve only ever driven on it during the day on my way to Chico and back but it’s more exciting than I-5 during the day at least.
"Their batters are patient to the point that it's annoying." -Ryan Franklin
by Helloooo 1st on Aug 16, 2010 8:16 PM PDT up reply actions
Yep.
I’ve lost count of how many times I’ve made that drive at night. Sometimes listen to CDs. Sometimes radio search. One time I listened to nothing and just thought about stuff… without realizing it until I got to my destination.
Bob Geren... Jackie Moore without the personality.
iPod all the way for me
I always make playlists for the drive and just relax with cruise control. Passing all those trucks is almost hypnotic, like you said it’s very easy to zone out for hours and hundreds of miles.
"Their batters are patient to the point that it's annoying." -Ryan Franklin
by Helloooo 1st on Aug 16, 2010 10:05 PM PDT up reply actions
My latest thing for long drives...
…is to make MP3 CDs with 150+ songs and then put it on “shuffle” so I can be surprised what comes up next. Great diversity from AC/DC to The Kingston Trio to The Beatles to Johnny Cash to The Offspring to everything in between.
Bob Geren... Jackie Moore without the personality.
The thinking is the best reason for road trips.
I’ve done some of my best creative thinking while driving, but it isn’t until about four hours into the trip that it really starts to flow.
There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, Than are dreamt of in your philosophy.
It smells pretty bad, though
"And Julio Franco is batting right-handed!" -- Wayne Hagin, A's radio play-by-play, mid-80s
I've probably done it 30 times in the past 3 years
It’s not scenic at all.
If you want to enjoy the ride and take it slow, do the 1 and 101
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by stranahanahan on Aug 16, 2010 3:29 PM PDT up reply actions
How much longer does that make the trip?
"You see, in this world there's two kinds of people, my friend: Those with loaded guns and those who dig. You dig."
From 6 hours to maybe 10 or so
Depending on how you do it.
I dunno if you’re doing this for vacation or not, but if it is, it’s worth doing it in 2 days if you stop somewhere for the night
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by stranahanahan on Aug 16, 2010 3:41 PM PDT up reply actions
There are places where you can cut over from 1 to 101 and speed things up
From Monterey, you can cut inland to get to 101, or you can stay on the coast, hug the Monterey Bay up to Santa Cruz, and then either cut inland over the mountains towards San Jose or go up 1 along the coast all the way to SF. So you can do a mixed route to save some time, if you like.
"And Julio Franco is batting right-handed!" -- Wayne Hagin, A's radio play-by-play, mid-80s
6 hours of nothingness.
Choosy Feebas choose Leopold Bloom nipples
Daring. Sensual. Invigorating. Squirrel.
BLOOM. For men.
Space?
"You see, in this world there's two kinds of people, my friend: Those with loaded guns and those who dig. You dig."
smells like shit too
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by designatedforassignment on Aug 16, 2010 3:46 PM PDT up reply actions
it’s the 100,000 cows at the harris ranch feedlot.
really don't care if i ever get back.
by AV on Aug 16, 2010 5:15 PM PDT up reply actions
this
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by designatedforassignment on Aug 16, 2010 5:15 PM PDT up reply actions
About 6 hours, depending on traffic.
Good time to catch up with friends via bluetooth or catch up on a bunch of music. Long, straight drive.
both. there’s i-5 through the desert (5 or 6 hours), hot, hellish, stinks around coalinga (where the cow smells lingah). DON’T DO THIS!!!
or take a combo of 1 and 101 (which you should do since you’re visiting and presumably interested in the pretty sights). It can take 10 hours if you do the carmel bit (also the prettiest bit perhaps?), but it can also be just 7 hours bypassing that part of hwy 1 and enjoying a whole lot of other great scenery.
in other words, i recommend you do this
if you have more time to spare, do this. (it says 8+ hours but it’s worth slowing down for parts of it.)
a compromise would be this.
really don't care if i ever get back.
by AV on Aug 16, 2010 3:39 PM PDT up reply actions
Ooooh, bookmarked.
I think that’s what she was talking about.
I’m torn now – ‘cos I kinda want to see what all this San Jose fuss is all about. I’ll talk it over.
Very helpful though. Thanks.
"You see, in this world there's two kinds of people, my friend: Those with loaded guns and those who dig. You dig."
what fuss about san jose?
there’s nothing here except businesses.
haha
Ed, have you eaten burrito-zilla?
by bakerbeachboy on Aug 16, 2010 3:46 PM PDT up reply actions
I was at Iguana's a night ago
better than La Vic’s, but that’s not saying much :(
Woops
Burrito-zilla is at La Iguana’s, right? I think I got it confused with La Victoria.
by bakerbeachboy on Aug 16, 2010 3:50 PM PDT up reply actions
I've never had it
One of my buddy’s was telling me about it…is it true it’s the size of a grown man’s forearm?!
by bakerbeachboy on Aug 16, 2010 3:53 PM PDT up reply actions
they have a burrito called burritozilla
it’s like 5 or 6 pounds or something. it’s ridiculous.
I wanna try and knock it out one day
but I don’t think they’ll let me “officially” do it without beans
Pam liked my old sig better.
If you do it
You need to take video of the whole “downing” of the burrito. That would be rad. Maybe you could make a guest appearance with Adam from Man vs. Food?
by bakerbeachboy on Aug 16, 2010 4:10 PM PDT up reply actions
can't say
I have a pavlovian response to their salsa. I found it quite good. I have no recollection of the actual food.
"The ego, the super-ego, and the Ed" - dannycakes
the first few times i tried the orange sauce
i was in love.
now i’m over it.
option 1 takes you through san jose. but like noava says… not a lot to see at first glance. lots of cool things to dig into, but you probably won’t have time for that driving by.
really don't care if i ever get back.
by AV on Aug 16, 2010 3:44 PM PDT up reply actions
Well it's a trip of the whole area, so who knows we might stay there for an afternoon or something.
"You see, in this world there's two kinds of people, my friend: Those with loaded guns and those who dig. You dig."
Nah.
You’d be better off checking out the national parks/beaches, Santa Cruz, SF…there’s not much to culturally offer in San Jose for visitors. It’s great to LIVE here, but not to visit. Oddly enough, LA is the inverse.
i’d agree on checking out santa cruz for one night over san jose.
really don't care if i ever get back.
by AV on Aug 16, 2010 3:48 PM PDT up reply actions
plus its a half hour drive to San Jose, if you really want to.
"The ego, the super-ego, and the Ed" - dannycakes
except of course, i’d recommend a new visitor going from SC to SJ to take 9 over 17. that’s just under 2-hours-worth of driving slowly under giant redwoods while humming that breeders song!
really don't care if i ever get back.
by AV on Aug 16, 2010 3:53 PM PDT up reply actions
Fair enough.
I’ll bookmark it and see what they say.
"You see, in this world there's two kinds of people, my friend: Those with loaded guns and those who dig. You dig."
The A's are moving there.
Haven’t you heard?
"You see, in this world there's two kinds of people, my friend: Those with loaded guns and those who dig. You dig."
Well...it depends.
If you’re coming during baseball season, no reason to stop in SJ, unless you’re really into the Winchester Mystery house. If you’re coming during hockey season, though, you should definitely go to a Sharks game.
I'm coming early Sept - think I'll be around for the Angels series.
"You see, in this world there's two kinds of people, my friend: Those with loaded guns and those who dig. You dig."
LABOR DAY
oh man. travel is going to be expensive. DO NOT leave LA on Friday. Try to leave on like Wednesday.
Well we're hiring a car.
Is that ’cos people will be trying to get away?
"You see, in this world there's two kinds of people, my friend: Those with loaded guns and those who dig. You dig."
Dude. Stopping in SJ to pick up cheesecake from the Cheesecake Factory = awesome.
"This must be heaven," he says.
"No. It's Oakland."
I knew I liked you for a reason.
"You see, in this world there's two kinds of people, my friend: Those with loaded guns and those who dig. You dig."
yeah it depends on the goal
if the goal is expediency, then you want to take I5. If you want to be leisurely, I’d recommend PCH (1) from Santa Monica up to Oxnard, then 101 until you get into the “Bay Area” – check out Carmel for sunset (if you can) and take 1 into Santa Cruz, spend a night there if you can. Then proceed to SF. If you have more than 1 day.
nothing to see in San Jose IMO
and I wouldn’t call I-5 a desert.
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You hit the nail on the head!
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by stranahanahan on Aug 16, 2010 3:43 PM PDT up reply actions
Ha
I always stop at the huge rest stop full of various fast food places outside Coalinga. Kind of become a ritual.
"Their batters are patient to the point that it's annoying." -Ryan Franklin
by Helloooo 1st on Aug 16, 2010 8:17 PM PDT up reply actions
Not too bad.
There’s a couple ways to do it. I-5, as people mentioned, is the shortest and straightest. It’s about 5-6 hours, depending if you hit traffic/construction/whatever. It’s boring and ugly as hell.
Highway 1 goes along the coast, it takes way longer but is curving and gorgeous. The downside is that if there is any sort of accident, you are screwed for traffic. If you get stuck behind a tour bus going 20 miles an hour, you are screwed (I did that for an hour once, it was AWESOME D:)
101 is the compromise. It’s longer than I-5 (I’d say by an hour-ish or so…? Been awhile since I did it) but not as bad as 1, you stand a better chance of not having terribleness in terms of something going wrong traffic-wise. There’s some really pretty spots on it, you head near some cool cities and beach towns along part of it.
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"No. It's Oakland."
You've all been very helpful.
Which, quite frankly, is what I’ve come to expect.
I guess I’ll have to think it through closer to the date. At least I know I have options though.
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I agree that 101 is a good choice
I’ve done it in 8 hours with only a short stop or two. But I’d advise taking longer, even stopping for the night halfway in San Luis Obispo or Morro Bay or Avila or one of those towns. Regardless, you’ll get a good cross-section of California on the 101. You could also take the train (Amtrak Coast Starlight) — it’s spectacular in a few places where it gets closer to the coast than the roads do — but it takes 14 hours or so and is always late.
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by Englishmajor on Aug 17, 2010 5:56 AM PDT up reply actions
Morrow Bay is really cool. I like that place a lot.
Ive taken the Coast Starlight a lot up to Oregon. Its very pleasant if you have absolutely no desire to get there on time.
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by designatedforassignment on Aug 17, 2010 9:27 AM PDT up reply actions
this
Its very pleasant if you have absolutely no desire to get there on time.
The train has been over 18 hours late all three times I’ve taken it, and it broke down twice in Klammath Falls on the way back. But it’s really pretty.
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by King Richard on Aug 17, 2010 11:16 AM PDT up reply actions
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by Rated-R Superstar on Aug 16, 2010 3:39 PM PDT reply actions
I doubt that
power union or no. Unless the contract says “void if punching people in the face” they got nothing.
"The ego, the super-ego, and the Ed" - dannycakes
they might have a morality clause
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by designatedforassignment on Aug 16, 2010 3:47 PM PDT up reply actions
He hurt himself doing something illegal though
and now is unable to pitch because he has to get surgery on his hand from the punch.
I think if you get drunk and spend the duration of your contract in jail, they have the right to void it.
I don’t think they have grounds to void the whole contract, but I do think they have an extremely strong case to suspend him without pay for the time he misses due to the thumb surgery.
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2 peanuts were walking down the street
one was assaulted…..peanut.
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My dog has no nose!
How does he smell?
Awful!
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It probably has more to do with
injuring himself while committing a tort. Injuring oneself while doing baseball activities is one thing, but this can probably be seen as negligence on K-rod’s part, I would guess.
How about a sanity clause?
Wait, no. Everyone knows there ain’t no sanity clause.
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Just heard on MLB network (so no link)
that Francisco Rodriguez has a hurt thumb on his pitching hand (I think they said broken and migh have surgery). The Mets are going to try and void his contract because he might have hurt it in the altercation with his girlfriend’s father. what a tool.
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nevermind, it was already linked by the sportsmachine.
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by Rated-R Superstar on Aug 16, 2010 4:42 PM PDT reply actions
So does this mean he's ready to start for Cust tonight?
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by lenscrafters on Aug 16, 2010 4:49 PM PDT up reply actions
Some kid on ESPN2 just hit a home run
I think this kid has more homers in the past 2 minutes than the A’s do in the past week.
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by thejd44 on Aug 16, 2010 5:11 PM PDT reply actions
205 ft fences are flat out ridiculous
They need to move back 35 feet
Pam liked my old sig better.
by mikev on Aug 16, 2010 5:37 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
The best part of what I was watching was when the first base umpire emphatically called a kid out at first when the 2B threw the ball about 5 feet over the 1B's head
They got it right, but still, that umpire went all out and it was massive fail.
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by thejd44 on Aug 16, 2010 6:52 PM PDT up reply actions
HAHA
I was watching that too. I cracked up when they showed the replay, kid doesn’t catch the ball and he gives a theatrical out call in slow mo. FAIL!
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by Rated-R Superstar on Aug 16, 2010 6:29 PM PDT reply actions
Holy shit
I’m flat out shocked.
That’s pretty impressive
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by stranahanahan on Aug 16, 2010 6:33 PM PDT up reply actions
How much
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by rhymeswithelephant on Aug 16, 2010 8:18 PM PDT up reply actions
thats an offer you surely cant refuse.
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by designatedforassignment on Aug 17, 2010 9:28 AM PDT up reply actions
Sooo, since this is the signing thread
Has there been any recent news on the A’s signing any of their draft picks?
Nothing yet today
Word is we’re close on Cabrera, but no announcements on him, Shipman or Lewis
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by stranahanahan on Aug 16, 2010 6:34 PM PDT up reply actions
Yea, I'm working on my deep breathing here
I’ve pretty much assumed that the A’s would get the deal done with Cabrera, Shipman, and Lewis but the lack of news on deadline day is starting to get to me. I just hope these deals all get done.
Wow, Covey's not signing
I just spoke with Brewers scouting director Bruce Seid and he told me that first-round pick Dylan Covey has decided to go to the University of San Diego rather than sign with Milwaukee.
http://www.jsonline.com/blogs/sports/100814479.html
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The A’s signed second-rounder Yordy Cabrera for $1.25MM, according to ESPN.com’s Keith Law (via Twitter).
wooot
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by designatedforassignment on Aug 16, 2010 8:10 PM PDT up reply actions
huzzah
first 14 picks signed!!!!!!1
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by rhymeswithelephant on Aug 16, 2010 9:04 PM PDT up reply actions
twitter humour
The Mets can’t void K. Rod’s contract? Bah! Owners are soft. In my day you only needed a shovel and a shallow grave to void a contract.
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Needs moar dingerz.
one of the best twitter personas on the planet IMO
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by designatedforassignment on Aug 16, 2010 9:12 PM PDT up reply actions
Hearing Shipman and Lewis signed
via minorleagueball
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DONE
#Athletics agree to terms with Aaron Shipman (3rd round) and Chad Lewis (4th round) from the #mlbdraft. A’s sign each of first 14 picks.
Needs moar dingerz.
by Blicks on Aug 16, 2010 8:59 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Excellent.
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we've officially been infused with some power
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by rhymeswithelephant on Aug 16, 2010 9:10 PM PDT reply actions
Well finally some good news
Considering who we got signed, our class has got to rank in the top 5 or so this year
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Not sure I'd go Top 5, but close for sure
Boston and Washington had, in my opinion and I would expect in the opinion of most prospect watchers, the best two draft hauls by a pretty wide margin. Pittsburgh is also pretty clearly ahead of us. Detroit brought in quite a haul with no first round draft pick, but two supplemental first round picks. St. Louis had a very good draft. Getting Zach Lee signed was quite an achievement by the Dodgers.
We are most definitely not Top 3 in my opinion, but I could be convinced anywhere in the 4-7 range.
by BlameChannel53 on Aug 16, 2010 10:20 PM PDT up reply actions
Agreed
Top 4 drafts in some order have to be Washington, Boston, Pittsburgh, and St. Louis IMO.
The A’s had a very good draft on the offensive side of things now that Cabrera, Shipman, and Lewis are signed.
by bakerbeachboy on Aug 16, 2010 10:52 PM PDT up reply actions
Oh come on, no they oh wait its the pirates, nm, yes they will
"I wanted to see how much my computer programming skills had improved since the last time I was arrested." - octopus virus
Seriously though
How many more consecutive losing seasons could the Pirates legitimately have?
5?
10?
Infinity?
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by stranahanahan on Aug 17, 2010 12:56 AM PDT up reply actions
To infinity and beyond!
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by OldhamA on Aug 17, 2010 2:38 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Seriously? 17 or 18 or something like that.
Which is a record, and which is also kind of impressive in a negative way. The A’s had long stretches of suckiness after Connie Mack kept dismantling his teams. In the early half of the 20th century teams like the Braves and Phillies and Senators and Browns would go literally decades without a glimmer of hope and even they could pull together a winning season more often.
Bob Geren... Jackie Moore without the personality.
Question
Does anyone know when the Dominican winter league runs, as well as if there’s a team within a reasonable distance of Punta Cana? Are games generally during the day, at night, or a mix?
"PECOTA can pretty much kiss my ass."-Nico
Can't be talking about that team across the bay eh
The Ginats, meanwhile, are tied for first in the NL Wild Card race.
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Apparently the Reds just released RHP Micah Owings.
In 194 AB, he’s got 14 doubles, 2 triples and 9 homeruns. Owings for LF?
Was also mentioned over in the front page post.
We’re already up to an outfield of Owings/Ankiel/Zambrano.
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What's Mike Hampton doing these days?
We can plug him somewhere in the infield.
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by Rated-R Superstar on Aug 17, 2010 3:13 PM PDT up reply actions
So Geren is starting neither Suzuki nor Kouzmanoff tonight.
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by Rated-R Superstar on Aug 17, 2010 3:26 PM PDT reply actions
No, at least our four best hitters are hitting in the first four slots.
I don’t mind sitting Suzuki or Kouzmanoff right now.
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by Rated-R Superstar on Aug 17, 2010 3:29 PM PDT up reply actions
Buck lasted long.
"You see, in this world there's two kinds of people, my friend: Those with loaded guns and those who dig. You dig."
I would play him over Davis against a RHP.
I’m sure most people would.
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by Rated-R Superstar on Aug 17, 2010 3:32 PM PDT up reply actions
How the fuck does Davis make more sense than Buck against Morrow.
Blargh…the one time I want Geren to play the platoon…
At least Tolleson is in the lineup instead of Kouz.
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by lenscrafters on Aug 17, 2010 3:33 PM PDT up reply actions
Geren felt bad about his near no hitter, wanted to give him another shot
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by stranahanahan on Aug 17, 2010 5:38 PM PDT up reply actions
Seems like Powell really has become Braden’s personal catcher.
They say nothing is impossible, but I do nothing all the time!
Think that's how Powell sells it to Geren?
"You see, in this world there's two kinds of people, my friend: Those with loaded guns and those who dig. You dig."
probably
at least this way Suzuki gets a rest every 5th day (unless Geren is a moron and puts Zuk at DH)
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by Rated-R Superstar on Aug 17, 2010 3:33 PM PDT reply actions
Clearly I'm missing something.
That has nothing to do with me. Otherwise I’d have to get worked up about a lot of things I have no influence over.
Yes he’s a dick, but we already knew that.
"You see, in this world there's two kinds of people, my friend: Those with loaded guns and those who dig. You dig."
It seems like Bailey is still about a week away.
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