Mazzaro Dazzles, Cust Crushes in A's Romp
by 67MARQUEZ on Jul 24, 2010 4:31 PM PDT
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PrintYou know what they say: if in the first inning you don't succeed enough; in the second, try again.
OK they don't really say that but that philosophy worked just fine for the A's offense this afternoon, and Vin Mazzaro was the beneficiary. Staked to a 2-0 lead after Oakland's first turn at bat, Mazzaro gave it right back on a long two-run homerun to left by Ramón Castro. But when his teammates pushed across three more runs in the second off Chicago starter Freddy Garcia, the young right-hander made those scores stand up- and then some.
As for Garcia, it was indeed a long, strange trip; long in terms of pitches anyway, of which he threw 69, and had only four outs to show for it. The 1.1 innings thrown was the shortest stint of his career, a span of 292 starts. It didn't help that he was betrayed by the normally reliable Omar Vizquel, who- under an unforgiving sun, mind you- allowed a pop fly off the bat of Greg Gross with the bases loaded and two outs to drop untouched in foul territory. Gross followed that with a slow roller to third, which Vizquel tried to bare-hand but was unable to field cleanly, and the A's had their second run of the inning (the first coming on an RBI-double by Daric Barton).
Given a lead for a second straight inning, Mazzaro settled down quite nicely, dominating the White Sox with a dazzling array of sliders and changeups. He retired the side in order in the third and fourth, and laughed in the face of the cardinal sin that says don't walk the leadoff man in both the fifth and sixth. Mazzaro finished off his day with three consecutive strikeouts, and five overall.
Not bad for a guy who labored through 30 pitches in the first (Garcia topped him with 44); an inning that took more than hour to complete.
The A's played small-ball in a three-run second. Cliff Pennington singled to lead off, was sacrificed to second by Coco Crisp, and scored on Barton's run-scoring knock. Barton then stole second base, and touched home on a single by Kurt Suzuki. After a walk to Jack Cust sent Garcia to the showers, Kevin Kouzmanoff greeted reliever Tony Peña with an RBI-two bagger to left.
In the fourth Suzuki, he of the extended contract, extended the A's lead to 6-2 with a homerun that was originally called a double, and Cust followed with a big fly of his own. He wasn't finished. After Oakland tacked on two more runs in the sixth, Cust crushed a Scott Linebrink offering to deep right-center, a towering thing of beauty that put the finishing touches on a fabulous afternoon at the Coliseum. For Jack, it was not only his second jack of the day, but his sixth in nine games (that, ahem, he's played in).
And yes, RRS, the A's are indeed the best in baseball in day games, a sparkling 23-10 in fact.
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I missed the gamethread, and the game wasn't on Fox back here
Did they show Saint et al in the bleachers?
"And Julio Franco is batting right-handed!" -- Wayne Hagin, A's radio play-by-play, mid-80s
They did show the drummers in left field.
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by Rated-R Superstar on Jul 24, 2010 4:35 PM PDT up reply actions
Who was she stalking this time?
There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, Than are dreamt of in your philosophy.
The CT thread is here.
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by Rated-R Superstar on Jul 24, 2010 4:35 PM PDT reply actions
Fantastic win, by everybody.
A couple missteps, for sure (Mazzaro’s runs, the Pennington error), but the offense gave us some breathing room. Isn’t it nice when the offense works well?
We score ten every game, don, and we're going to be tough to beat.
There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, Than are dreamt of in your philosophy.
Cust's thinking
Designated for assignment my a**, more like designated for hitting
100% Athletics, 100% Baseball. 2009 Athletics, 40% Baseball.
that was surreal, wasn't it
how many more wins would the A’s have if Cust was there from the start?
If his AAA stats were to be believed, not many more.
by theblackpearl on Jul 24, 2010 5:18 PM PDT up reply actions
why is Cust doing better in the majors than the minors?
It’s an odd conundrum, gotta admit.
I don't get it.
He hit .270/.425/.503 in April in AAA. Overall, he hit .273/.444/.436 in AAA this year.
Chavez put up a .610 OPS, Cust probably would’ve been over a 100 point improvement.
"We were shit, pathetic," Guillen growled early in spring training. "We hit too many home runs."
by lenscrafters on Jul 24, 2010 7:56 PM PDT up reply actions
In 47 at bats, with an OBP of .469
Still not seeing how he wouldn’t be a major improvement over Chavez.
"We were shit, pathetic," Guillen growled early in spring training. "We hit too many home runs."
by lenscrafters on Jul 24, 2010 8:09 PM PDT up reply actions
There's really no valid, logical argument to support that decision
Now or then.
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by thejd44 on Jul 24, 2010 8:12 PM PDT up reply actions
There apparently isn't any valid, or logical argument to anything you disagree with, so
I will acquiesce to your brilliance.
by theblackpearl on Jul 24, 2010 8:15 PM PDT up reply actions
I don't think this response was warranted.
"We were shit, pathetic," Guillen growled early in spring training. "We hit too many home runs."
by lenscrafters on Jul 25, 2010 12:06 AM PDT up reply actions
Pearl was snarkier than he needed to be,
but I share his frustration with those who routinely express their disagreement with a decision by categorically declaring it to be invalid and illogical.
There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, Than are dreamt of in your philosophy.
The tone of his response seems to suggest there was a previous issue between him and thejd44.
I’m not getting involved further.
"We were shit, pathetic," Guillen growled early in spring training. "We hit too many home runs."
by lenscrafters on Jul 25, 2010 2:12 AM PDT up reply actions
Yeah, there wasn't.
At least not that I’m aware.
Some people just have a really, really hard time when others present factual evidence to counter their beliefs.
It usually goes like this:
Person A – I believe this thing.
Person B – How come? These 8,672 pieces of evidence suggest otherwise. Why do you believe that? Is there some other piece of evidence?
Person A – You’re an asshole who doesn’t accept the opinions of others.
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by thejd44 on Jul 25, 2010 7:45 AM PDT up reply actions
To me it looks more like this:
Person A — [does something]
Person B — [doesn’t know all the factors that went into A’s decision but based on what he does know thinks it was dumb]
Person B — “A had no valid or logical reason for doing that.”
There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, Than are dreamt of in your philosophy.
Yeah, at least in this case I didn't really see enough to support thejd44's version
And whether he likes the decision or not, I’m sure the A’s thought their decision at the time made sense based on what they knew, which is pretty much always going to be more than what we know.
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For example, that unfortunate fall in the kitchen that
damaged the part of Billy Beane’s brain that processes Eric Chavez rationally. We all have that (it’s called the chavothalmus) but most of us don’t need to use it.
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
we do have it
it’s also known as the Medulla Nostalgnata
maybe being DFA sent him a message
which he understood: “we need somebody better than 180SO/year, 30 HRS, and a 228 average when they are a strict liabilty in the field, both fielding and throwing.”
its great to see him doing what he is doing this year.
but first not signing him (with NO other team wanting him) and THEN dfa maybe kicked him in the butt and sent him a message he took to heart.
by heartstopper on Jul 25, 2010 12:55 PM PDT up reply actions
And, just for reference, you know how many qualified batters have a higher wOBA?
Five. Five. Morneau, Cabrera, Hamilton, Votto, and Youkilis.
Five?
The funny thing about baseball is that people will believe what they want to believe. -Joe Posnanski 8/29/09
Five?
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
dumb it down for me here
somewhere between four and six, I’m guessing…
???
Blez: Most folks seem to believe that the big flaw with the 2010 Oakland A's will be the lack of any power.
Beane: They believe it because it's true.
by One won lost won on Jul 24, 2010 10:09 PM PDT up reply actions
thanks!!
I was ruminating all night about this!
Blez: Most folks seem to believe that the big flaw with the 2010 Oakland A's will be the lack of any power.
Beane: They believe it because it's true.
by One won lost won on Jul 25, 2010 10:10 AM PDT up reply actions
The joke's on you
mikev’s figure isn’t even park adjusted.
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
Huh??!!!!
Shit, now I’m worried again!
Blez: Most folks seem to believe that the big flaw with the 2010 Oakland A's will be the lack of any power.
Beane: They believe it because it's true.
by One won lost won on Jul 26, 2010 5:27 PM PDT up reply actions
even if you let in unqualified players
Cust has the 8th best in baseball.
BUT YES BOB, BENCH HIM FOR ROSALES WHENEVER YOU WANT.
-Yeah, I just posted that, but my opinion is apparently "wrong" a significant portion of the time though, so take it as you will.
The Cust/Rosales dichotomy that Geren has created is ridiculous anyway.
They should both be starting. Bob wants me to believe that somewhere in the miasma of Matt Watson, Matt Carson, and Gabe Gross, there aren’t two guys that can be bumped for Rosales in the outfield?
by StJosephBurningTheOakTreesToTheGround on Jul 24, 2010 6:17 PM PDT up reply actions
I count three.
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
Someone should really ask him
why his starting everyday outfield isn’t Crisp, Davis, and Rosales at this point. Maybe he just hasn’t thought of it.
by StJosephBurningTheOakTreesToTheGround on Jul 24, 2010 6:24 PM PDT up reply actions
Hey, your posts in this particular thread have been great, but
if you’re banned you can’t, without permission, just create another account and start posting. Sorry.
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
crap I was planning on doing that
He's not missing bats and still giving up HRs like they're party favors at Chuck-E-Cheese - mikev
by designatedforassignment on Jul 24, 2010 6:46 PM PDT up reply actions
StNicoBurningTheOakToonsToTheGround
m*****f***ing c***s***ing peanut butter and jelly!! f*** f*** f***!!!
Just out of curiosity, how do you know who that is?
IP address thing?
Also, I wanna know who it is!
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by thejd44 on Jul 24, 2010 8:13 PM PDT up reply actions
Yes.
It was Jonathan Nathan and he has begged back with promises to get on board with how we talk to one another (only nicely), so he’s back as of about 32 seconds ago with an 0-2 count!
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
Hmm.
I understand the rule about taking on a new identity, but if it were my call I think I would have chosen not to reveal the old identity.
It seems to me that a fresh start is best if it’s truly fresh. I’d want it to be like starting over again with a completely clean slate. For others to know who he is and associate the bad feelings of the old identity seems counterproductive.
There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, Than are dreamt of in your philosophy.
Hmm, I wasn't sure Nico would tell me when I asked
But I see it both ways.
Revealing all the “behind the scenes” stuff might not be good, but also, I think everybody has a right to know who we’re talking to. At least as much as we can over the internet. I know I’ve left other boards over the years when there were too many aliases running around.
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by thejd44 on Jul 25, 2010 7:46 AM PDT up reply actions
If someone tries to sneak back in without discussing things with the moderators first...
…I don’t see the problem with exposing who it was.
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It's not like I can win --
“AN’s too secretive; it’s all a conspiracy!!!” “Why’d you give out that info???”
Anyway, the point is that he has agreed that he got off on the wrong foot, would like a chance for a mulligan, and if that happens I doubt anyone will care about the Jonathan Nathan connection except perhaps to go “Nice recovery.”
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
Well, I hope so.
I’m just afraid that if it were someone with a reputation, people would carry over whatever animus they may have had for the person the first time.
But in this case I gather he neglected to check in with you properly before signing up with a new identity. Had he done so, the question of identity probably never would have arisen in a public thread in the first place.
There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, Than are dreamt of in your philosophy.
Correct. I happened to catch him
and he emailed privately with an apology and request for mercy.
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
my plans for KA_ka are now too obvious.
alaska A currently residing in northern Idaho.
by ak_A on Jul 24, 2010 9:27 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
geren's call for a suicide squeeze yesterday, up 7-2
in the 4TH inning makes me believe even MORE than i already thought that geren is in the top2 for worst managers. and i don;t even know who the other in the running would be for the top spot… just giving him the benefit of the doubt
by heartstopper on Jul 25, 2010 1:00 PM PDT up reply actions
It was such a bizarre move that I can only explain it this way
1) The suicide squeeze is almost always a really bad idea.
2) Making other teams think you might suicide squeeze could be a way to make them throw pitchouts, or just generally mess with pitchers’ heads expecting the suicide squeeze.
3) The only way to put that thought in other teams’ heads is to use the suicide squeeze at least a few times.
4) ergo, the best time to use the suicide squeeze is when the stakes are really low (like trying to put your team up by 6 runs instead of 5).
"And Julio Franco is batting right-handed!" -- Wayne Hagin, A's radio play-by-play, mid-80s
Stupid Q
But Miguel Cabrera right?
WTF GEREN?!?!?!
by robbo650 on Jul 24, 2010 6:13 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
But wouldn't it be something if it were Orlando?
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by thejd44 on Jul 24, 2010 8:14 PM PDT up reply actions
I mean, Alex Gonzalez was slugging almost .500 this year
"Swingles is Day to Day: IE: He’s being turned into a zombie, but they don’t want the world to know for another 5 days (retroactive)" ~Zonis
I gotta feeling he won't have a problem
getting a contract offer next year.
by sf drift king on Jul 24, 2010 11:43 PM PDT up reply actions
Mazzaro has a 3.14 ERA since he joined the rotation in June.
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by Rated-R Superstar on Jul 24, 2010 4:50 PM PDT reply actions
Yes, that’s in nine starts.
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by Rated-R Superstar on Jul 24, 2010 4:54 PM PDT up reply actions
Solid
He’s getting a tad more grounders but his stranded rate has me concerned as his FIP is like a run higher
100% Athletics, 100% Baseball. 2009 Athletics, 40% Baseball.
Hes still got a 4.76 FIP though.
He's not missing bats and still giving up HRs like they're party favors at Chuck-E-Cheese - mikev
by designatedforassignment on Jul 24, 2010 6:26 PM PDT up reply actions
I didn't see today's game, but
just looking at the box score the first thing that jumps out at me is: 6 IP, 102 pitches. That alone doesn’t suggest a pitcher in full command of what he’s doing.
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
A big par of that is hes still giving up Jimmy Jacks at an above league average pace
and hes not King enough people to walk as many as he does.
His tRA is nearly 4.94 too, even worse than the FIP
He's not missing bats and still giving up HRs like they're party favors at Chuck-E-Cheese - mikev
by designatedforassignment on Jul 24, 2010 6:31 PM PDT up reply actions
One study that would be interesting
would be an analysis of young pitchers’ consistency as a predictor of future success. That is, who’s a better prospect: a young pitcher who throws the occasional dominant game, even if it’s mixed in with a few stinkers or just general mediocrity? Or the pitcher who’s consistently pretty good, but never really dominant or awful?
These two hypothetical pitchers could even end the season with identical lines — but if one has higher peaks and lower valleys, is he more or less likely to be successful down the line? Or doesn’t it matter?
And I mention this because Mazzaro has been mostly pretty good, with 2 or 3 really bad games mixed in. Is it reasonable to say, “As he matures, he’ll stop having those blow-up games, and he’ll be effective”?
Maybe someone could base the analysis on Game Scores (mean, peak, etc.), but GS doesn’t factor in HRs, so it might ignore some crucial evidence.
"And Julio Franco is batting right-handed!" -- Wayne Hagin, A's radio play-by-play, mid-80s
I think every pitcher has blow up games. It's the nature of the profession.
"You see, in this world there's two kinds of people, my friend: Those with loaded guns and those who dig. You dig."
I think every blogger has blow up dol--
Eh, never mind.
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
Nick Swisher FTW!
"Swingles is Day to Day: IE: He’s being turned into a zombie, but they don’t want the world to know for another 5 days (retroactive)" ~Zonis
Following front page innuendo rules FTW!
Eh, never mind.
He's not missing bats and still giving up HRs like they're party favors at Chuck-E-Cheese - mikev
by designatedforassignment on Jul 24, 2010 11:57 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
I think you need to start with asking what is better, the Zito or Blanton starter?
Blanton would give you three runs in 6 innings every time. Zito would give you 1 run or 5 in 6 innings.
Once you know that I think that would have a lot of impact on your answer. Personally I would choose the dominant with the stinkers over consistent since there is more upside.
He's not missing bats and still giving up HRs like they're party favors at Chuck-E-Cheese - mikev
by designatedforassignment on Jul 25, 2010 12:01 AM PDT up reply actions
consistency?
What do you do with a pitcher who is guaranteed to give up exactly one run per inning?
Make him your closer for games you’re leading by 2 or more.
by MobiusKlein on Jul 25, 2010 10:35 AM PDT up reply actions
luck
Such is the nature of luck that at some point even the guys who are pretty good have a dominant stretch every once in a while
by GusanoQuemador on Jul 25, 2010 12:02 AM PDT via mobile up reply actions
Luck doesn't answer the question
He’s asking about young, inexperienced pitchers and whether or not there is any correlation in early struggles to life long brilliance. Is it more likely for a young pitcher who is consistently slightly above-average over the course of a season to improve at an incremental pace and ultimately improve to the point he becomes (potentially) a HOF pitcher or do the odds favor the young hurler who’ll throw 3 great games and then get knocked out in the 3rd inning of every 4th start?
The monster at the end of this blog.
Exactly
I have no idea what the answer is. For all I know, there’s no pattern to it and the study would have no predictive value. But it seems to me that a study could be done, and if you did the study and you did find something, you’d have a great tool for evaluating young pitchers.
"And Julio Franco is batting right-handed!" -- Wayne Hagin, A's radio play-by-play, mid-80s
30 in the first but after that he calmed down quite a bit
WTF GEREN?!?!?!
by robbo650 on Jul 24, 2010 6:31 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
30? In a scoreless inning?
Yowza.
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
It was a real weird inning
Because it was never really a tense or anything. He got the first two guys out, gave up a hit, then walked a guy before finally getting out of the inning. He threw lots of pitches, but it wasn’t like he was battling out of trouble the whole time.
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by thejd44 on Jul 24, 2010 8:15 PM PDT up reply actions
I also strongly suspect that it has something to do with roles and regular pitching
Out of the 2010 rotation, his stat line against is : 223 PA, .232/.311/.328 (.639 OPS against), 20 BB, 35 K, 1.75 K/BB
When he was in the bullpen and playing the role of mop-up-man, and not really pitching regularly:
52 PA, .409/.460/.727/1.187
BABIP does have something to do with it, as Mazzy’s SP BABIP is low, but the K/BB is decent. I think he’s legitimately improving being a regular SP, and needs to keep that role for the rest of the season.
"Swingles is Day to Day: IE: He’s being turned into a zombie, but they don’t want the world to know for another 5 days (retroactive)" ~Zonis
This was the best game I have seen involving the White Sox in years!!!
1) It was on tv (I live in the White Sox’ so-called “local” area).
2) The A’s won, and handily.
3) It was refreshing to hear a White Sox game without listening to the insufferable Ken “Hawk” Harrelson blather on and act like a juvenile. (Though, it would have been satisfying to hear him whine as they got their arses handed to them)
Bob Geren... Jackie Moore without the personality.
I regret that my headline wasn't
“YESSS. A’s put ’em on the board.”
I'm here to talk about the past.
We can do “YESSS, A’s put another series win on the board” after tomorrow’s victory.
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by Rated-R Superstar on Jul 24, 2010 4:57 PM PDT up reply actions
Just as a reminder, the River Cats are on CSN CA tonight at 7 PM in Tacoma
Anyone want to do a game thread for it on the sidebar? I would but I’m probably going to have the second of the Sacramento/Colorado Springs games up later this evening and don’t want to overload the sidebar with things by me.
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I’ll try to attend.
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by Rated-R Superstar on Jul 24, 2010 5:00 PM PDT up reply actions
Hmm, if I hop in the car right now
I could probably get there in time for the 3rd inning.
There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, Than are dreamt of in your philosophy.
On second thought, that's probably optimistic
even assume I can use the carpool lanes.
There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, Than are dreamt of in your philosophy.
you should go!
The funny thing about baseball is that people will believe what they want to believe. -Joe Posnanski 8/29/09
Enh, not minor league enough.
I love Tacoma, but it’s a schlep. Everett, on the other hand….
There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, Than are dreamt of in your philosophy.
At the risk of bringing down the mood
Would the A’s consider trading away Jack Cust? The White Sox have been rumored to be trying to trade for Adam Dunn but are not willing to meet the Nationals asking price, think they would consider trying to get Cust after seeing him victimize them? The A’s have done pretty well for themselves dealing with Kenny Williams in the past maybe it’s time to give him a call.
Or maybe we should just enjoy the fact that Cust is hitting homers again.
3B?
Its RF where we need help with a masher.
-Yeah, I just posted that, but my opinion is apparently "wrong" a significant portion of the time though, so take it as you will.
michael taylor has never played at the big league level
too risky.
-Yeah, I just posted that, but my opinion is apparently "wrong" a significant portion of the time though, so take it as you will.
Why?
We’re not out of the race. By tonight we’ll either be 7.5 games out of first (plenty close enough for people to consider the Angels and the Red Sox to be “still in it”) or a half a game out of second. The Rangers are already cooling off a bit and they have a tough second-half schedule.
So I guess my concern is, why go into sell mode?
by StJosephBurningTheOakTreesToTheGround on Jul 24, 2010 5:49 PM PDT up reply actions
I dont think we will
If anything, we might buy a RF bat and make a go of it.
-Yeah, I just posted that, but my opinion is apparently "wrong" a significant portion of the time though, so take it as you will.
Do you really think that might happen?
Not sure what I think of it—guess it would depend on who we bought—but do you think that idea is crossing Beane’s mind? Would he not be more inclined to call up Taylor?
by StJosephBurningTheOakTreesToTheGround on Jul 24, 2010 6:10 PM PDT up reply actions
I don't think the A's have the chips to make that trade.
Not without weakening the rest of the big league team or doing too much damage to the farm system.
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
My feeling as well.
Iglew’s talking about flipping Cust for a player of equal offensive value who can play a position (I assume we’re talking about RF there), but I don’t know who that would be and I don’t know that a team would trade that player for Cust alone. Certainly not the White Sox.
by StJosephBurningTheOakTreesToTheGround on Jul 24, 2010 6:13 PM PDT up reply actions
To clarify,
when I said “equally valuable offensive player” I meant equally valuable player who is a hitter and not a pitcher. I understand that to be of equal value, any non-DH player would be less of a hitter than Cust.
Re Nico’s comment that no one is blocked at DH, I was thinking in terms of next year. If a trade leaves us about the same now and makes us better balanced for bringing up the next round of prospects and losing the next round of veterans, that’s a plus.
All that said, I really wasn’t suggesting such a trade will or should happen. Even if such an opportunity exists, I doubt whether the gain would be enough to warrant the psychological cost of trading away a good player.
There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, Than are dreamt of in your philosophy.
I'm not convinced that trading Cust would
constitute “sell mode”. I could see trades that would make sense even as a non-sell move.
I think the main reason not to trade Cust is because it could be disruptive to the mood of both players and fans because it would reinforce the perception that we trade away players as soon as they get good.
But just in terms of help to the team, if we could swap Cust for an equally valuable offensive player at a position where we aren’t as flush, that could be a win-win adjustment with no effect on the now-vs-later equation.
There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, Than are dreamt of in your philosophy.
But just in terms of help to the team, if we could swap Cust for an equally valuable offensive player at a position where we aren’t as flush
Sure, I can totally see that. But where do we find that guy, and what team is he on that wants Jack Cust? I’m loving Cust this season, but is the rest of the league noticing?
My assumption that trading Cust equals “sell mode” was predicated on the idea that dealing him would almost certainly net no more than prospects, especially from the White Sox, who are contending.
by StJosephBurningTheOakTreesToTheGround on Jul 24, 2010 6:11 PM PDT up reply actions
That would be true if the A's happened to have another DH
who wasn’t currently getting playing time because he was blocked by Cust. But that guy isn’t on the roster. (If that guy is Carter, play Cust in LF — but it’s not.)
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
I was going to say that guy could be Rosales
but frankly, Rosales could be playing in the outfield right now anyway. I like high socks more than I like chinstrap beards.
by StJosephBurningTheOakTreesToTheGround on Jul 24, 2010 6:13 PM PDT up reply actions
And Rosales really isn't close to as good as Cust offensively.
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by thejd44 on Jul 24, 2010 8:17 PM PDT up reply actions
Not getting it....
I have no idea why Cust is suddenly a different player now than a month ago, or why Cust was a singles hitter for average then, and never before. Is the real Cust this one, last month’s, last year’s, two years ago?
In any event, seems to me the team would be better off moving Cust into left field and bringing up Carter (if the powers that be deem him ready). Sure, you take a hit on defense but boy, with another power hitter complementing Cust, assuming he doesn’t fall back into old habits, this team could make a run for it.
If Carter were deemed ready, I'd absolutely do that
Cust has always tended to hit better when he plays in the field, too. Plus, then Greg Gross has an actual useful function as a late inning defensive replacement.
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
Yeah, prolly.
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
I'm surprised I mixed up Greg and Gabe.
Greg was actually good.
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
studies show that [retty much everyone everyone hits better in the field
He's not missing bats and still giving up HRs like they're party favors at Chuck-E-Cheese - mikev
by designatedforassignment on Jul 25, 2010 12:03 AM PDT up reply actions
For Cust, the results are different but I'm not sure he's actually doing anything differently
Home run hitters go through long stretches of not hitting them from time to time. I think that was just probably one of those stretches. What made it so weird was that while he wasn’t hitting for power, he was also doing something else he usually doesn’t do (hit a lot of line drives that landed for singles).
I think Cust going forward will be the usual Cust, and the high average will stay to some extent as long as he can keep hitting line drives 25% of the time.
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by thejd44 on Jul 25, 2010 7:49 AM PDT up reply actions
I tend to agree with this.
Cust has the sort of skills that are streaky. I’m sure he was adjusting a little bit, but I think a streaky power outage followed by a hot streak makes it seem more dramatic than it was. For the most part, he was just Cust all along and had a bad spell followed by a good-but-powerless spell.
There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, Than are dreamt of in your philosophy.
PLUS the rangers wither in the summer heat
hopefully that will be true this year to though normally they start the wither in june
by heartstopper on Jul 25, 2010 1:03 PM PDT up reply actions
It's not a bad question. They really should see if the Sox are interested.
But there’s no NEED to trade Cust, so why not make the White Sox give up something good? Don’t settle for Brent Morel and Jhonny Nunez or something like that.
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by thejd44 on Jul 24, 2010 8:18 PM PDT up reply actions
the white soxs don't really have anything good except Beckham
He's not missing bats and still giving up HRs like they're party favors at Chuck-E-Cheese - mikev
by designatedforassignment on Jul 25, 2010 12:04 AM PDT up reply actions
Hudson is good. We'll see him today.
After that, the only guy I’d really want is Mitchell, but he’s hurt.
There’s probably an acceptable package in there, but you’re right, the Sox system is really bad.
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by thejd44 on Jul 25, 2010 7:50 AM PDT up reply actions
I think the guy they’re most willing to trade is the Triple-A third baseman.
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by Rated-R Superstar on Jul 25, 2010 9:34 AM PDT up reply actions
3BBs and 2HRs.
Yeah.
The funny thing about baseball is that people will believe what they want to believe. -Joe Posnanski 8/29/09
Trade away are only big bat?
What would we get a better bat?
If Taylor keeps hitting well, then we should call him up within the next few weeks. Playing guys like Gross, Watson, Carson, and Patterson and Fox in the outfield when we had them, is hurting the team. Put Taylor in their and it will definitely help. Carter could eventually come up this year, but their is not much room right now.
Did anyone see the Chone Figgins dugout "scuffle" yesterday?
Who was he fighting?
-Yeah, I just posted that, but my opinion is apparently "wrong" a significant portion of the time though, so take it as you will.
Wakamatsu, Lopez and Branyan were involved.
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by Rated-R Superstar on Jul 24, 2010 5:51 PM PDT up reply actions
interesting...
-Yeah, I just posted that, but my opinion is apparently "wrong" a significant portion of the time though, so take it as you will.
Excellent wrap-up thoughts by Jeff
on his post on Lookout Landing.
I like this
The melee doesn’t represent a new level of misery – it just represents a new expression of the same misery.
and especially this
From a fan perspective, there are few things worse than having a little bit of knowledge. Fans are always trying to arrive at conclusions, and a proper conclusion cannot be reached without all the details. However, when all the details aren’t available, the temptation’s still there to run with what you have and make a few assumptions. Don’t go down that path, here. We don’t know very much about what went on.
There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, Than are dreamt of in your philosophy.
And Milton Bradley was not!
That team has serious chemistry problems. I mean, I know things are always worse when you’re losing — we see that here with the A’s, too — but I think there’s more to it than that.
There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, Than are dreamt of in your philosophy.
Way to go Milton!
I knew he’d find his head eventually.
by StJosephBurningTheOakTreesToTheGround on Jul 24, 2010 6:14 PM PDT up reply actions
In fairness to Figgins, he found his head too.
It was rolling slowly towards the east end of the dugout.
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
Hmm -- I'm guessing Figgins lost that one?
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
I think one of them sided with Figgins, though.
There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, Than are dreamt of in your philosophy.
I’m betting it was Lopez.
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by Rated-R Superstar on Jul 24, 2010 6:11 PM PDT up reply actions
Yep
Lopez and Wakakmatsu were about to throw down. Wakamatsu and Lopez had to be held back. Looks like Wakamatsu is having a hard time being in charge.
It’s just been a disaster season for Seattle.
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by Rated-R Superstar on Jul 24, 2010 6:16 PM PDT up reply actions
Yeah
They reloaded and had so much hype going into the season being picked as the favorite by a bunch of people. They have been total opposites of what people expected.
"So no one told you life was gunna be this way
(bu-bu-bu-bu—bum)…
Your squad’s a joke, you’re broke, your offense DOA…
It’s like you’re always stuck at second base…"
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
Second would be an improvement
"Their batters are patient to the point that it's annoying." -Ryan Franklin
by Helloooo 1st on Jul 25, 2010 12:56 PM PDT up reply actions
Yeah, it really
hasn’t been their day, their week, their month, or even their year.
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
Were they on the "less filling" side?
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
Greg Gross?
Nice little win today.
Spending time with my nephew and the AN Crew on July 10th...PRICELESS!
by ohtobe21likehuston on Jul 24, 2010 5:52 PM PDT reply actions
How about that pointless squeeze play, by the way?
Up by a lot of runs, threatening to add some more with one out…let’s see if a guy who’s bunted like three times in his career can squeeze home a guy who isn’t known for speedy baserunning.
God love ya, Bob Geren. No one else will.
by StJosephBurningTheOakTreesToTheGround on Jul 24, 2010 6:15 PM PDT reply actions
Squeeze plays have their time and place...
…but I didn’t see the time or place for that one.
Bob Geren... Jackie Moore without the personality.
was busted
I can only imagine a communication problem
Geren can be a moron with in-game decisions in blowouts all he wants
doesn’t cost the A’s games
"Swingles is Day to Day: IE: He’s being turned into a zombie, but they don’t want the world to know for another 5 days (retroactive)" ~Zonis
Since it hasn't been posted, Cust's season hitting line now:
.306/.416/.522 (.938 OPS).
M-hmm.
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
Should we DFA him?
WTF GEREN?!?!?!
by robbo650 on Jul 24, 2010 6:27 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
NOOOO
DFDH
Designate for Designated Hitter
100% Athletics, 100% Baseball. 2009 Athletics, 40% Baseball.
BASE CLOGGER
DFA him!
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RIP
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by robbo650 on Jul 24, 2010 6:26 PM PDT via mobile reply actions
BrettAnderson49
In Tacoma…
3 minutes ago via Echofon
He’s just telling it like it is.
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by Rated-R Superstar on Jul 24, 2010 6:55 PM PDT reply actions
Callaspo is 1-13 against Feldman with his last 7 outs being ground balls.....and Wash changes the pitcher.
Sweet.
"You see, in this world there's two kinds of people, my friend: Those with loaded guns and those who dig. You dig."
I don't really put a lot of stock in batter/pitcher matchups, but seems like a silly move there.
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by thejd44 on Jul 24, 2010 8:20 PM PDT up reply actions
SSS
He's not missing bats and still giving up HRs like they're party favors at Chuck-E-Cheese - mikev
by designatedforassignment on Jul 25, 2010 12:04 AM PDT up reply actions
Erm, 1-13 is enough to tell me he can't hit the guy.
Oh and he singled in a run against the relief pitcher.
"You see, in this world there's two kinds of people, my friend: Those with loaded guns and those who dig. You dig."
In a case like that, I agree
The chances of a particular hitter having, say, 50+ previous ABs against a pitcher who’s only been starting the past three years aren’t that high, and 1-for-13 is enough of a sign he hasn’t done anything against that guy.
Last of the Ninth - Photography
it really isn't though thats like 3 games worth of ABs
He's not missing bats and still giving up HRs like they're party favors at Chuck-E-Cheese - mikev
by designatedforassignment on Jul 25, 2010 9:10 AM PDT up reply actions
And based on what's happened so far, it's reasonable to assume Feldman will continue to have...
…a high rate of success against Callaspo.
Last of the Ninth - Photography
Or at least that it's more likely than not.
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
I mean, it's not like the stat that showed Gabe Gross being 2-2 against Garcia with 2 HR...
…such that the Fox guys said he’s Garcia’s nemesis.
Last of the Ninth - Photography
Man, That was awesome:
My hands are aching, but that game was absolutely A-Mazing. I had so many moments that I can’t even name them all.
Were any of you out in LF today?
It is all about coming together as a team. At the end of the day, the team is all we have. - T. Branch 10-14-09
by Raymond St. Martin (Saint) on Jul 24, 2010 7:04 PM PDT reply actions
Oh really, Matt?
"You see, in this world there's two kinds of people, my friend: Those with loaded guns and those who dig. You dig."
JUAN!!!! JUAN!!!! JUAN!!!!
It is all about coming together as a team. At the end of the day, the team is all we have. - T. Branch 10-14-09
by Raymond St. Martin (Saint) on Jul 24, 2010 7:21 PM PDT up reply actions
I think I was sitting a couple rows behind you actually
Frank Cohen
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Sweet. That was a blast!!! Again!!!
I have not been able to make it to many games this year, but in my last 3, that A’s have won by a combined 35-4. HAHAHAHA!!!!
It is all about coming together as a team. At the end of the day, the team is all we have. - T. Branch 10-14-09
by Raymond St. Martin (Saint) on Jul 24, 2010 7:22 PM PDT up reply actions
Jesus lol
That is pretty impressive haha
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I don't know if I should go to every game:
Or stay away so my streak is protected…HHAHA!!
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by Raymond St. Martin (Saint) on Jul 24, 2010 7:26 PM PDT up reply actions
Feels like we have another big 3 here almost
With Anderson, Mazzaro, and Cahill I can see the next big 3. I don’t think they will offer any of the three as opposed to before when Mazzaro may have been the odd man out IMO. Hudson or Mulder were injured like Anderson has been this year and Cahill at teh begginning. With the youth of the line-up and the pitchers that seem to have quickly figured out how to be very successful in the MLB. In short, good job BB for once again starting a beautiful thing. I believe the A’s are a very short time away from joining teams like the Rays and Phillies as consistent contenders every year for many too come.
Big 4, let's let Gio into the fun too.
Juggernauts FTW.
"Swingles is Day to Day: IE: He’s being turned into a zombie, but they don’t want the world to know for another 5 days (retroactive)" ~Zonis
if Gio gets his head straight and learns not to let things get to him on the mound
you could have a pretty big 4 there. Braden isn’t too bad either.
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by emperor nobody on Jul 24, 2010 8:19 PM PDT up reply actions
Well, Dan Haren has to fit in somewhere in the juggernaut
I know Mulder was traded for Haren, but just make it the Quadfecta of Awesome A’s Pitchers Deux
(PS: No Haren to the Yankees kthxbai)
"Swingles is Day to Day: IE: He’s being turned into a zombie, but they don’t want the world to know for another 5 days (retroactive)" ~Zonis
I think Gio is better than Mazzaro
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by thejd44 on Jul 24, 2010 8:23 PM PDT up reply actions
Gio, when he is on and focused ( good Gio) is probally close to the best of the 4
But you never know what you you get with gio
WTF GEREN?!?!?!
by robbo650 on Jul 24, 2010 10:12 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
Gio is like a box of chocolates
Confirmed
by eddiemos on Jul 25, 2010 8:12 AM PDT via mobile up reply actions
Sweet delicious dreamy goodness!
There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, Than are dreamt of in your philosophy.
this
He's not missing bats and still giving up HRs like they're party favors at Chuck-E-Cheese - mikev
by designatedforassignment on Jul 25, 2010 12:05 AM PDT up reply actions
Physically? Mentally? Or both?
Physically and talent-wise, I’d pick Gio. Mentally I’d pick Mazzaro. If Gio can lock down the mental aspect, he’ll have the better career. If not, Mazzaro will.
Fortunately, Gio appears to be continually making solid progress in that direction.
Bob Geren... Jackie Moore without the personality.
Same, if there's one spot between Vin and Gio
I’d vote for Gio too
100% Athletics, 100% Baseball. 2009 Athletics, 40% Baseball.
Same. Gio's less consisent and more maddening,
but when the dust clears he’s the better of the two pitchers IMO.
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
It's funny we kinda think that
But I recall hearing several times that the A’s young pitchers themselves think that Mazzaro has the best “stuff” of all of them.
"Do I talk to myself? No, I just remind myself of what I'm trying to do. You know, I never answer myself so how can I be talking to myself?" - Rickey
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by cuppingmaster on Jul 25, 2010 8:12 AM PDT up reply actions
Anderson has the best stuff of all of them
Gio’s curve has been called (by Torii Hunter comes to mind) the “nastiest curve in the league.”
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
I think that too, on both accounts
But I do think the arms race between Gio and Mazzaro is a REALLY close call.
"Do I talk to myself? No, I just remind myself of what I'm trying to do. You know, I never answer myself so how can I be talking to myself?" - Rickey
Athletics Nation - WE'RE ALL GONNA MRIIIIIIIIIIIII!!!!!
by cuppingmaster on Jul 25, 2010 9:56 AM PDT up reply actions
Really?
I can’t look past Cahill’s sinker. He gets so many ground balls with that thing. It’s almost unhittable.
"You see, in this world there's two kinds of people, my friend: Those with loaded guns and those who dig. You dig."
Yeah, but Anderson's slider is so nasty that even his ELBOW can't handle it.
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
Most elbows can't handle a slider. It's a very dangerous pitch.
"You see, in this world there's two kinds of people, my friend: Those with loaded guns and those who dig. You dig."
except when its gettin launched over the fence
He's not missing bats and still giving up HRs like they're party favors at Chuck-E-Cheese - mikev
by designatedforassignment on Jul 25, 2010 10:34 AM PDT up reply actions
Hence why I said 'almost' unhittable.
If he leaves it up major league hitters will crush it. That’s the same with all sinker ball pitchers though.
"You see, in this world there's two kinds of people, my friend: Those with loaded guns and those who dig. You dig."
then its really not the best pitch
since he leaves it up a fair amount
He's not missing bats and still giving up HRs like they're party favors at Chuck-E-Cheese - mikev
by designatedforassignment on Jul 25, 2010 10:52 AM PDT up reply actions
When Mazzaro struck out Konerko in the 6th with that same nasty slider ...
… he chased in the first, I thought, tearfully, “Our baby boy is sure growing up fast.”
The meaning of life is not so much 'found,' as it is 'made.' --Opus
by The Dogfather on Jul 25, 2010 6:32 AM PDT up reply actions
PATTERSON RUINED LESTER'S PERFECT GAME.
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAAHAH THAT’S THE PAT WE KNOW AND LOVE.
Wuertz was scratched from a minor league game on Wednesday, but bounced back quickly on Thursday, throwing mostly fastballs and sliders, although he did mix in three sliders. -Rotoworld
by ElQuesoCapitan on Jul 24, 2010 10:32 PM PDT reply actions
He's special.
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
Ranged to his right.
He had to run decently far, to be fair, but he was under it when the ball came. Just fell out of his glove.
The end, I'm guessing.
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
Good point.
BTW, got your e-mail and dan’s reply. Agree with the decision.
I'm here to talk about the past.
For a little bit
“Patterson” was trending on Twitter. That was… weird.
will crosby spread his legs so far apart at bat that the games will have to be rated nc-17 -- emperor nobody
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The #Athletics team ERA in July is 2.84. The team OPS is 740.
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by Rated-R Superstar on Jul 24, 2010 10:44 PM PDT reply actions
I'm not decent, but those sound expert.
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
The ERA, obviously, is awesome
OPS in the AL this year is .741. So they’re playing like an average offense.
I think we’d all be very happy with a league average offense, especially with that pitching.
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by thejd44 on Jul 25, 2010 7:53 AM PDT up reply actions
I know this is probably more DLD material (THERE'S NO SWEARING SHEESH)
but I just HAD to share Uni Watch’s latest column “Monochrome in the AL Part IV” and this glorious tidbit about our Oakland A’s!
True, but it’s basically been confirmed that they will be ditching the ridiculous BFBS alt and replacing it next season with a gold one.
HALLELUJAH
The funny thing about baseball is that people will believe what they want to believe. -Joe Posnanski 8/29/09
What's BFBS
and what are they going to be wearing gold?
Wuertz was scratched from a minor league game on Wednesday, but bounced back quickly on Thursday, throwing mostly fastballs and sliders, although he did mix in three sliders. -Rotoworld
by ElQuesoCapitan on Jul 24, 2010 10:53 PM PDT up reply actions
Black for Black's Sake
The funny thing about baseball is that people will believe what they want to believe. -Joe Posnanski 8/29/09
Ooh.
So are they going to be using solid gold now?
Wuertz was scratched from a minor league game on Wednesday, but bounced back quickly on Thursday, throwing mostly fastballs and sliders, although he did mix in three sliders. -Rotoworld
by ElQuesoCapitan on Jul 24, 2010 11:00 PM PDT up reply actions
And we will dance. For your amusement.
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by Leopold Bloom on Jul 24, 2010 11:38 PM PDT up reply actions
Yay! Well ditched!
A mid-80’s throwback style would be fine. As, of course, would an early-70s all-yellow skittles look (though I know OldhamA disagrees about that).
"And Julio Franco is batting right-handed!" -- Wayne Hagin, A's radio play-by-play, mid-80s
thank you jeeezus
He's not missing bats and still giving up HRs like they're party favors at Chuck-E-Cheese - mikev
by designatedforassignment on Jul 25, 2010 12:13 AM PDT up reply actions
I love their all hunter mock up.
He's not missing bats and still giving up HRs like they're party favors at Chuck-E-Cheese - mikev
by designatedforassignment on Jul 25, 2010 12:13 AM PDT up reply actions
oh noes
The funny thing about baseball is that people will believe what they want to believe. -Joe Posnanski 8/29/09
OHHHHHHH YEAH
He's not missing bats and still giving up HRs like they're party favors at Chuck-E-Cheese - mikev
by designatedforassignment on Jul 25, 2010 12:18 AM PDT up reply actions
I was just reading it, thinking the same thing.
On a semi-related note…um, you should probably go get tested or something, dfa.
sock puppets have never successfully defended castles, except when working with squirrels, which would never happen because squirrels know better than to trust sock puppets, except when their nipples have magical powers. -nm
by Leopold Bloom on Jul 25, 2010 12:19 AM PDT up reply actions
I did. Got my results last week
I passed…. with a 65
He's not missing bats and still giving up HRs like they're party favors at Chuck-E-Cheese - mikev
by designatedforassignment on Jul 25, 2010 12:20 AM PDT up reply actions
congrats! Now you can drive the bus for the city!
sock puppets have never successfully defended castles, except when working with squirrels, which would never happen because squirrels know better than to trust sock puppets, except when their nipples have magical powers. -nm
by Leopold Bloom on Jul 25, 2010 12:26 AM PDT up reply actions
dark green, not black, dannycakes.
sock puppets have never successfully defended castles, except when working with squirrels, which would never happen because squirrels know better than to trust sock puppets, except when their nipples have magical powers. -nm
by Leopold Bloom on Jul 25, 2010 12:26 AM PDT up reply actions
mmm cake
Zooey Deschanel!
Cluck 'em all and let the Chick sort 'em out - DMOAS
You're worried that you'll come off as nerdy as frack? On AN? That’s like being ashamed of your alcohol use at a meth convention. - danmerqury
by ChickenStanley on Jul 25, 2010 12:27 AM PDT up reply actions
cake is good, chickencakes.
sock puppets have never successfully defended castles, except when working with squirrels, which would never happen because squirrels know better than to trust sock puppets, except when their nipples have magical powers. -nm
by Leopold Bloom on Jul 25, 2010 12:27 AM PDT up reply actions
no it really isn't
Pie is far superior
He's not missing bats and still giving up HRs like they're party favors at Chuck-E-Cheese - mikev
by designatedforassignment on Jul 25, 2010 12:33 AM PDT up reply actions
pie's good, dfapie.
sock puppets have never successfully defended castles, except when working with squirrels, which would never happen because squirrels know better than to trust sock puppets, except when their nipples have magical powers. -nm
by Leopold Bloom on Jul 25, 2010 12:34 AM PDT up reply actions
Pie, cake and cookies
are all gods gift to my tummy
Zooey Deschanel!
Cluck 'em all and let the Chick sort 'em out - DMOAS
You're worried that you'll come off as nerdy as frack? On AN? That’s like being ashamed of your alcohol use at a meth convention. - danmerqury
by ChickenStanley on Jul 25, 2010 12:36 AM PDT up reply actions
bountiful harvest.
sock puppets have never successfully defended castles, except when working with squirrels, which would never happen because squirrels know better than to trust sock puppets, except when their nipples have magical powers. -nm
by Leopold Bloom on Jul 25, 2010 12:38 AM PDT up reply actions
bountiful tummy
Zooey Deschanel!
Cluck 'em all and let the Chick sort 'em out - DMOAS
You're worried that you'll come off as nerdy as frack? On AN? That’s like being ashamed of your alcohol use at a meth convention. - danmerqury
by ChickenStanley on Jul 25, 2010 12:38 AM PDT up reply actions
harvest tummy?
sock puppets have never successfully defended castles, except when working with squirrels, which would never happen because squirrels know better than to trust sock puppets, except when their nipples have magical powers. -nm
by Leopold Bloom on Jul 25, 2010 12:39 AM PDT up reply actions
That could get messy
just sayin
Zooey Deschanel!
Cluck 'em all and let the Chick sort 'em out - DMOAS
You're worried that you'll come off as nerdy as frack? On AN? That’s like being ashamed of your alcohol use at a meth convention. - danmerqury
by ChickenStanley on Jul 25, 2010 12:44 AM PDT up reply actions
Hey, look!
DFA and I agree on something food-related!
There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, Than are dreamt of in your philosophy.
I'll second (third?) that
I’ll eat cake sometimes, but generally only if it’s ice cream cake or something that makes it not cake anymore.
Pie is the goods.
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by thejd44 on Jul 25, 2010 7:54 AM PDT up reply actions
me four
When I was little and it was someone’s party, I always just asked for ice cream.
"Do I talk to myself? No, I just remind myself of what I'm trying to do. You know, I never answer myself so how can I be talking to myself?" - Rickey
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by cuppingmaster on Jul 25, 2010 8:15 AM PDT up reply actions
Types of acceptable cake: Cheese and Carrot
that is all
He's not missing bats and still giving up HRs like they're party favors at Chuck-E-Cheese - mikev
by designatedforassignment on Jul 25, 2010 8:33 AM PDT up reply actions
im an extremist... what can I say.
occasionally a heavily chocolate cake that isn’t too sweet and doesn’t have too much frosting will sneak in but I cheese and carrot are the only consistently acceptable cakes.
He's not missing bats and still giving up HRs like they're party favors at Chuck-E-Cheese - mikev
by designatedforassignment on Jul 25, 2010 9:12 AM PDT up reply actions
ice cream cake, FTW!
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
Types of acceptable cakes: Pam and Danny.
There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, Than are dreamt of in your philosophy.
That's not really cake
It’s more like a pie: has creamy filling and a minimal crust. Hence, I don’t think of cheesecake as a real cake.
"Do I talk to myself? No, I just remind myself of what I'm trying to do. You know, I never answer myself so how can I be talking to myself?" - Rickey
Athletics Nation - WE'RE ALL GONNA MRIIIIIIIIIIIII!!!!!
by cuppingmaster on Jul 25, 2010 9:38 AM PDT up reply actions
If you poured cheesecake batter into a pie pan and baked it, it would then be a cheesecake pie
If you poured cake batter into a pie pan and baked it, it would still be a cake.
Therefore, cheesecake = pie.
"Do I talk to myself? No, I just remind myself of what I'm trying to do. You know, I never answer myself so how can I be talking to myself?" - Rickey
Athletics Nation - WE'RE ALL GONNA MRIIIIIIIIIIIII!!!!!
by cuppingmaster on Jul 25, 2010 11:08 AM PDT up reply actions
I agree with this.
He's not missing bats and still giving up HRs like they're party favors at Chuck-E-Cheese - mikev
by designatedforassignment on Jul 25, 2010 10:35 AM PDT up reply actions
Pirates wear black, dannycakes,m not dark green.
sock puppets have never successfully defended castles, except when working with squirrels, which would never happen because squirrels know better than to trust sock puppets, except when their nipples have magical powers. -nm
by Leopold Bloom on Jul 25, 2010 12:27 AM PDT up reply actions
are you colorblind? if not your screen needs to be adjusted
thats hella green dude.
He's not missing bats and still giving up HRs like they're party favors at Chuck-E-Cheese - mikev
by designatedforassignment on Jul 25, 2010 12:32 AM PDT up reply actions
I really think your off base on this
but since there really isn’t a way to logically construct an appeal to aesthetics im really lost here
He's not missing bats and still giving up HRs like they're party favors at Chuck-E-Cheese - mikev
by designatedforassignment on Jul 25, 2010 12:37 AM PDT up reply actions
Oh thank god.
The funny thing about baseball is that people will believe what they want to believe. -Joe Posnanski 8/29/09
by pam5981 on Jul 25, 2010 12:37 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
I do, too.
Actually, any time the top and bottom is the same non-white (or gray) color it just looks wrong.
www.zekeishungry.com
by thejd44 on Jul 25, 2010 7:55 AM PDT up reply actions
That's...not good.
The funny thing about baseball is that people will believe what they want to believe. -Joe Posnanski 8/29/09
Agreed
The funny thing about baseball is that people will believe what they want to believe. -Joe Posnanski 8/29/09
you guys are so, so wrong...
sock puppets have never successfully defended castles, except when working with squirrels, which would never happen because squirrels know better than to trust sock puppets, except when their nipples have magical powers. -nm
by Leopold Bloom on Jul 25, 2010 12:32 AM PDT up reply actions
this
He's not missing bats and still giving up HRs like they're party favors at Chuck-E-Cheese - mikev
by designatedforassignment on Jul 25, 2010 12:33 AM PDT up reply actions
no, future ed, your'e not.
your spidey sense has failed you this time.
sock puppets have never successfully defended castles, except when working with squirrels, which would never happen because squirrels know better than to trust sock puppets, except when their nipples have magical powers. -nm
by Leopold Bloom on Jul 25, 2010 1:12 AM PDT up reply actions
you are entitled to your own opinions
not your own facts
"The ego, the super-ego, and the Ed" - dannycakes
YES I AM!
sock puppets have never successfully defended castles, except when working with squirrels, which would never happen because squirrels know better than to trust sock puppets, except when their nipples have magical powers. -nm
by Leopold Bloom on Jul 25, 2010 1:27 AM PDT up reply actions
have a cookie Bloomie
Zooey Deschanel!
Cluck 'em all and let the Chick sort 'em out - DMOAS
You're worried that you'll come off as nerdy as frack? On AN? That’s like being ashamed of your alcohol use at a meth convention. - danmerqury
by ChickenStanley on Jul 25, 2010 1:35 AM PDT up reply actions
A hot cookie?
There is no A in OFFENSE!!
by wacchampions on Jul 25, 2010 1:36 AM PDT up reply actions
yeah the hot cookies I just made!
Zooey Deschanel!
Cluck 'em all and let the Chick sort 'em out - DMOAS
You're worried that you'll come off as nerdy as frack? On AN? That’s like being ashamed of your alcohol use at a meth convention. - danmerqury
by ChickenStanley on Jul 25, 2010 1:39 AM PDT up reply actions
[munch munch munch]
okay, ed can think what he wants.
[munch munch]
sock puppets have never successfully defended castles, except when working with squirrels, which would never happen because squirrels know better than to trust sock puppets, except when their nipples have magical powers. -nm
by Leopold Bloom on Jul 25, 2010 1:46 AM PDT up reply actions
yeah it is. just look at the awesome piping
He's not missing bats and still giving up HRs like they're party favors at Chuck-E-Cheese - mikev
by designatedforassignment on Jul 25, 2010 12:33 AM PDT up reply actions
yeah it is. just look at the awesome piping
He's not missing bats and still giving up HRs like they're party favors at Chuck-E-Cheese - mikev
by designatedforassignment on Jul 25, 2010 12:34 AM PDT up reply actions
Thanks to whoever made the FanShot/FanPost TOC available from the Overflow Game Threads.
Much appreciated.
The funny thing about baseball is that people will believe what they want to believe. -Joe Posnanski 8/29/09
An off-topic thought:
You know that annoying Rotoworld news updater on the left-hand sidebar? Could we replace it with something else, like Susan Slusser’s tweets? I’m kind of annoyed at the fantasy advice it gives, as well as the misleading citations. Besides, Susan usually updates quicker and with more information, too. I’m sure it could be done, somehow.
At least it's A's related and not the stupid blackberry chat on the other sidebar.
Pam liked my old sig better.
maybe...they did just do an update, huh?
sock puppets have never successfully defended castles, except when working with squirrels, which would never happen because squirrels know better than to trust sock puppets, except when their nipples have magical powers. -nm
by Leopold Bloom on Jul 24, 2010 11:39 PM PDT up reply actions
I use google chrome
and that thing is gone for me too
woohoo
Zooey Deschanel!
Cluck 'em all and let the Chick sort 'em out - DMOAS
You're worried that you'll come off as nerdy as frack? On AN? That’s like being ashamed of your alcohol use at a meth convention. - danmerqury
by ChickenStanley on Jul 24, 2010 11:52 PM PDT up reply actions
you're amazing.
That thing we talked about, where I move into your garage, might have to happen sooner rather than later.
sock puppets have never successfully defended castles, except when working with squirrels, which would never happen because squirrels know better than to trust sock puppets, except when their nipples have magical powers. -nm
by Leopold Bloom on Jul 24, 2010 11:57 PM PDT up reply actions
gee darn
Zooey Deschanel!
Cluck 'em all and let the Chick sort 'em out - DMOAS
You're worried that you'll come off as nerdy as frack? On AN? That’s like being ashamed of your alcohol use at a meth convention. - danmerqury
by ChickenStanley on Jul 24, 2010 11:57 PM PDT up reply actions
you're beside yourself with grief, aren't you?
sock puppets have never successfully defended castles, except when working with squirrels, which would never happen because squirrels know better than to trust sock puppets, except when their nipples have magical powers. -nm
by Leopold Bloom on Jul 24, 2010 11:58 PM PDT up reply actions
I'm gonna go kill myself right now
Zooey Deschanel!
Cluck 'em all and let the Chick sort 'em out - DMOAS
You're worried that you'll come off as nerdy as frack? On AN? That’s like being ashamed of your alcohol use at a meth convention. - danmerqury
by ChickenStanley on Jul 24, 2010 11:58 PM PDT up reply actions
Well, we can have chicken for dinner tomorrow, then.
sock puppets have never successfully defended castles, except when working with squirrels, which would never happen because squirrels know better than to trust sock puppets, except when their nipples have magical powers. -nm
by Leopold Bloom on Jul 24, 2010 11:59 PM PDT up reply actions
just make sure you use good bbq sauce, k?
Zooey Deschanel!
Cluck 'em all and let the Chick sort 'em out - DMOAS
You're worried that you'll come off as nerdy as frack? On AN? That’s like being ashamed of your alcohol use at a meth convention. - danmerqury
by ChickenStanley on Jul 24, 2010 11:59 PM PDT up reply actions
Sweet Lou's, was it?
sock puppets have never successfully defended castles, except when working with squirrels, which would never happen because squirrels know better than to trust sock puppets, except when their nipples have magical powers. -nm
by Leopold Bloom on Jul 24, 2010 11:59 PM PDT up reply actions
sweet baby rays
Zooey Deschanel!
Cluck 'em all and let the Chick sort 'em out - DMOAS
You're worried that you'll come off as nerdy as frack? On AN? That’s like being ashamed of your alcohol use at a meth convention. - danmerqury
by ChickenStanley on Jul 25, 2010 12:00 AM PDT up reply actions
Sweet baby Rays is good "stuff"
There is no A in OFFENSE!!
by wacchampions on Jul 25, 2010 12:49 AM PDT up reply actions
Damn
now I want some bbq ribs
Zooey Deschanel!
Cluck 'em all and let the Chick sort 'em out - DMOAS
You're worried that you'll come off as nerdy as frack? On AN? That’s like being ashamed of your alcohol use at a meth convention. - danmerqury
by ChickenStanley on Jul 25, 2010 12:51 AM PDT up reply actions
How does a chicken and waffle place sound
for our next outing?
Zooey Deschanel!
Cluck 'em all and let the Chick sort 'em out - DMOAS
You're worried that you'll come off as nerdy as frack? On AN? That’s like being ashamed of your alcohol use at a meth convention. - danmerqury
by ChickenStanley on Jul 25, 2010 12:53 AM PDT up reply actions
I like chicken and I like waffles...and after living in Atlanta I like them together also..
However I think that this discussion does not belong in ths thread…
There is no A in OFFENSE!!
by wacchampions on Jul 25, 2010 12:56 AM PDT up reply actions
Oh yeah, huh?
Oh, thank you for reminding me
Zooey Deschanel!
Cluck 'em all and let the Chick sort 'em out - DMOAS
You're worried that you'll come off as nerdy as frack? On AN? That’s like being ashamed of your alcohol use at a meth convention. - danmerqury
by ChickenStanley on Jul 25, 2010 1:01 AM PDT up reply actions
I will make a jack cust something or other thread and we can continue the discussion there
There is no A in OFFENSE!!
by wacchampions on Jul 25, 2010 1:02 AM PDT up reply actions
Perfect
Let me know when it is up
Zooey Deschanel!
Cluck 'em all and let the Chick sort 'em out - DMOAS
You're worried that you'll come off as nerdy as frack? On AN? That’s like being ashamed of your alcohol use at a meth convention. - danmerqury
by ChickenStanley on Jul 25, 2010 1:13 AM PDT up reply actions
Um, can we go tonight?
sock puppets have never successfully defended castles, except when working with squirrels, which would never happen because squirrels know better than to trust sock puppets, except when their nipples have magical powers. -nm
by Leopold Bloom on Jul 25, 2010 1:13 AM PDT up reply actions
Yes, then we can head to the game...I was telling CS that my truck sleeps 5 easily..
There is no A in OFFENSE!!
by wacchampions on Jul 25, 2010 1:22 AM PDT up reply actions
let's go!
sock puppets have never successfully defended castles, except when working with squirrels, which would never happen because squirrels know better than to trust sock puppets, except when their nipples have magical powers. -nm
by Leopold Bloom on Jul 25, 2010 1:24 AM PDT up reply actions
BTW...I have flagged each and every post above including my own..
There is no A in OFFENSE!!
by wacchampions on Jul 25, 2010 1:26 AM PDT up reply actions
well, that's democratic...
sock puppets have never successfully defended castles, except when working with squirrels, which would never happen because squirrels know better than to trust sock puppets, except when their nipples have magical powers. -nm
by Leopold Bloom on Jul 25, 2010 1:28 AM PDT up reply actions
I wouldnt want to show favoritism..
There is no A in OFFENSE!!
by wacchampions on Jul 25, 2010 1:28 AM PDT up reply actions
Jolly good of you
Zooey Deschanel!
Cluck 'em all and let the Chick sort 'em out - DMOAS
You're worried that you'll come off as nerdy as frack? On AN? That’s like being ashamed of your alcohol use at a meth convention. - danmerqury
by ChickenStanley on Jul 25, 2010 1:29 AM PDT up reply actions
for what?
i mean the new rules don’t prohibit this.
He's not missing bats and still giving up HRs like they're party favors at Chuck-E-Cheese - mikev
by designatedforassignment on Jul 25, 2010 1:30 AM PDT up reply actions
Just on principle alone...nothing to do with the new rules...
I just dont like the direction of these posts, especially since I am being teased with food..
There is no A in OFFENSE!!
by wacchampions on Jul 25, 2010 1:32 AM PDT up reply actions
Oh yeah and the fact that I am here to talk about Baseball...Oakland A's Baseball..not chicken and waffles..
There is no A in OFFENSE!!
by wacchampions on Jul 25, 2010 1:34 AM PDT up reply actions
On that note
I am heading to bed to flagellate myself before sleeping. See you at 10:30 Wacco!
Zooey Deschanel!
Cluck 'em all and let the Chick sort 'em out - DMOAS
You're worried that you'll come off as nerdy as frack? On AN? That’s like being ashamed of your alcohol use at a meth convention. - danmerqury
by ChickenStanley on Jul 25, 2010 1:43 AM PDT up reply actions
The new rules don't *prohibit* anything.
It has, however, been suggested that without benefit of rules we try not to let game recap threads get too overrun with private chatter.
There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, Than are dreamt of in your philosophy.
Especially "profane/lewd" chatter
While I’m sure this kind of exchange undoubtedly irritates some readers who want “baseball only” conversation, as a blogfather this kind of banter doesn’t bother me at all.
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
Perhaps I'm being influenced by
another blog. One of the Lookout Landing style guides draws a distinction between off-topic discussion that is inclusive to everyone and personal chatter that is individuals using the thread for private exchanges.
I know that’s their rules and not ours, and we definitely are more welcoming of personal chatter here, but I still think it’s a distinction that’s worth keeping in mind, especially on a front-page recap thread. It’s what I had in mind when I said “private chatter”.
There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, Than are dreamt of in your philosophy.
I think if it's not a rule or guideline here, there isn't much to say about it...
…unless you’re prepared to approach the moderators about discussing it.
Last of the Ninth - Photography
Why?
I have no interest in imposing new rules. I love the fact that we don’t forbid much here, and I hope it stays that way.
I also believe in all of us voluntarily being mindful of what makes AN a more welcoming place. Toward that end, I look for inspiration anywhere I can find it. If someone has a good suggestion about how to make a better blog, I’m happy to hear it no matter where it comes from.
There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, Than are dreamt of in your philosophy.
I think that's a good idea
And going by what’s on the Rotoworld scroll now, have of it is sourced from her tweets anyway.
will crosby spread his legs so far apart at bat that the games will have to be rated nc-17 -- emperor nobody
I'd be fine either way...
…I have zero use for the fantasy crap, but the news is nice for an at-a-glance type stuff. Like someone else said, half of it is from her anyway.
I hate(d) that blackberry garbage on the right side.
Bob Geren... Jackie Moore without the personality.
I do like the at-a-glance news, but
Roto does not do a very good job of it. It seems very likely someone else could provide better.
There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, Than are dreamt of in your philosophy.
Haha I kinda like this
Stockton Ports Sat, Aug 7 vs. Mavericks - Grant Desme Bobblehead Giveaway and Faith Night
Zooey Deschanel!
Cluck 'em all and let the Chick sort 'em out - DMOAS
You're worried that you'll come off as nerdy as frack? On AN? That’s like being ashamed of your alcohol use at a meth convention. - danmerqury
by ChickenStanley on Jul 24, 2010 11:57 PM PDT reply actions
that. is. awesome.
The funny thing about baseball is that people will believe what they want to believe. -Joe Posnanski 8/29/09
Will the Desme bobblehead be in a baseball uniform or some kind of priestly attire?
www.zekeishungry.com
by thejd44 on Jul 25, 2010 7:56 AM PDT up reply actions
Flagged for
[ ] spam
[ ] troll
[ ] inappropriate
[x] nevermind, I just need to lighten up
There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, Than are dreamt of in your philosophy.
by iglew on Jul 25, 2010 1:21 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
rec'
The funny thing about baseball is that people will believe what they want to believe. -Joe Posnanski 8/29/09
Of course I had to go look it up
It's the fans that make the game fun. -- Rickey Henderson, July 26, 2009.
by Englishmajor on Jul 25, 2010 10:03 AM PDT up reply actions
brilliant
It's the fans that make the game fun. -- Rickey Henderson, July 26, 2009.
by Englishmajor on Jul 25, 2010 9:58 AM PDT up reply actions
Make no mistake about it.
If Carter/Taylor come up next year and are decent. We have a playoff team. Sign a FA bat in the winter and we are golden.
"Carter's 25-game hitting streak isn't any normal streak. He's 46 for 97 (.474 average) during the run, adding 16 walks and compiling 81 total bases in the process. I'm out of superlatives for what he's doing." - Kevin Goldstein
is there anyone besides crawford?
will he play center?
He's not missing bats and still giving up HRs like they're party favors at Chuck-E-Cheese - mikev
by designatedforassignment on Jul 25, 2010 12:19 AM PDT up reply actions
Jayson Werth?
http://mlbcontracts.blogspot.com/2001/05/potential-free-agents-for-2011.html
I don’t really see many that will be realistically available to us and worth pursuing.
doesn't solve the who plays center problem
He's not missing bats and still giving up HRs like they're party favors at Chuck-E-Cheese - mikev
by designatedforassignment on Jul 25, 2010 12:39 AM PDT up reply actions
Yeah....
Only chance is Taylor playing Center.
"Carter's 25-game hitting streak isn't any normal streak. He's 46 for 97 (.474 average) during the run, adding 16 walks and compiling 81 total bases in the process. I'm out of superlatives for what he's doing." - Kevin Goldstein
When the A's first got him
I heard CF was a possibility
Zooey Deschanel!
Cluck 'em all and let the Chick sort 'em out - DMOAS
You're worried that you'll come off as nerdy as frack? On AN? That’s like being ashamed of your alcohol use at a meth convention. - danmerqury
by ChickenStanley on Jul 25, 2010 12:45 AM PDT up reply actions
We would be the Best outta Werth/Carter/Jackson
"Carter's 25-game hitting streak isn't any normal streak. He's 46 for 97 (.474 average) during the run, adding 16 walks and compiling 81 total bases in the process. I'm out of superlatives for what he's doing." - Kevin Goldstein
He would be*
"Carter's 25-game hitting streak isn't any normal streak. He's 46 for 97 (.474 average) during the run, adding 16 walks and compiling 81 total bases in the process. I'm out of superlatives for what he's doing." - Kevin Goldstein
i mean im not sure how bad that would be
Jackson isn’t good in the field. Taylor might be not terrible. Werth is solid. Not sure I would want that chasing down flyballs
He's not missing bats and still giving up HRs like they're party favors at Chuck-E-Cheese - mikev
by designatedforassignment on Jul 25, 2010 12:53 AM PDT up reply actions
Price toy pay for offense.
I think Jackson is an Ok left field. Taylor is a good RF. Werth in center is a toss up.
"Carter's 25-game hitting streak isn't any normal streak. He's 46 for 97 (.474 average) during the run, adding 16 walks and compiling 81 total bases in the process. I'm out of superlatives for what he's doing." - Kevin Goldstein
oh you mean Werth in center not taylor?
I just think you put a good CFer in there and play taylor and Werth at the corners and make jackson your 4th OFer
He's not missing bats and still giving up HRs like they're party favors at Chuck-E-Cheese - mikev
by designatedforassignment on Jul 25, 2010 12:57 AM PDT up reply actions
That could work too...
Thats the genius of Beane. Many options.
"Carter's 25-game hitting streak isn't any normal streak. He's 46 for 97 (.474 average) during the run, adding 16 walks and compiling 81 total bases in the process. I'm out of superlatives for what he's doing." - Kevin Goldstein
He's played a good amount in center in AAA
"Carter's 25-game hitting streak isn't any normal streak. He's 46 for 97 (.474 average) during the run, adding 16 walks and compiling 81 total bases in the process. I'm out of superlatives for what he's doing." - Kevin Goldstein
He's played 10 games in center so far this year
The majority of which have come in the last week or so. As far as I can tell this is the first time in his pro career that he’s been given a chance to play center.
I figured it was more than that.
Well I mean they say hes got the speed to play there. How well he plays there is another story Im sure.
"Carter's 25-game hitting streak isn't any normal streak. He's 46 for 97 (.474 average) during the run, adding 16 walks and compiling 81 total bases in the process. I'm out of superlatives for what he's doing." - Kevin Goldstein
there has been some talk
and hes played there a little in Sac
He's not missing bats and still giving up HRs like they're party favors at Chuck-E-Cheese - mikev
by designatedforassignment on Jul 25, 2010 12:50 AM PDT up reply actions
I dont mind Crisp playing center...
With Taylot in left adn Werth in right is that were to happen.
"Carter's 25-game hitting streak isn't any normal streak. He's 46 for 97 (.474 average) during the run, adding 16 walks and compiling 81 total bases in the process. I'm out of superlatives for what he's doing." - Kevin Goldstein
I'd take Raj over Coco next year
Zooey Deschanel!
Cluck 'em all and let the Chick sort 'em out - DMOAS
You're worried that you'll come off as nerdy as frack? On AN? That’s like being ashamed of your alcohol use at a meth convention. - danmerqury
by ChickenStanley on Jul 25, 2010 12:46 AM PDT up reply actions
Tough to say...
"Carter's 25-game hitting streak isn't any normal streak. He's 46 for 97 (.474 average) during the run, adding 16 walks and compiling 81 total bases in the process. I'm out of superlatives for what he's doing." - Kevin Goldstein
Im assuming crisp will be dead.
He's not missing bats and still giving up HRs like they're party favors at Chuck-E-Cheese - mikev
by designatedforassignment on Jul 25, 2010 12:50 AM PDT up reply actions
Wel with him...
Chavy/Sheets off the books we would easily sign Werth,
"Carter's 25-game hitting streak isn't any normal streak. He's 46 for 97 (.474 average) during the run, adding 16 walks and compiling 81 total bases in the process. I'm out of superlatives for what he's doing." - Kevin Goldstein
They could easily afford him for a couple years
I think Werth will be interesting this off-season depending on how the market for him develops. I think the A’s could be in the running at a 3 or 4 year deal but if he starts getting 6 and 7 year offers I think the A’s are out.
It seems like teams have been getting a little smarter about handing out long term deals to good players who aren’t superstars but Werth will likely be one of the top names in a weak free agent class.
I'm wondering if they'll make another play for Beltre,
now that he’ll be seeking a multi-year deal.
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
I hope not. He's gonna want huge money since he's been wrecking shop in Boston.
Pam liked my old sig better.
The question is what he'll get.
The market has been pretty unpredictable the last couple years.
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
Beltre could be an option
I though he was a good target last off-season but I agree with mikev, he’s a year older now coming off his best offensive season since his contract year with the Dodgers. I think he’s going to get enough interest that once you factor in the Oakland Overpay he won’t be that attractive an option for the A’s.
I mean, you never really know how the market for a player is going to develop but I think it is very likely he’ll command a contract which would really reduce his value to the A’s.
where are you going to put him?
He's not missing bats and still giving up HRs like they're party favors at Chuck-E-Cheese - mikev
by designatedforassignment on Jul 25, 2010 10:51 AM PDT up reply actions
I know this is pretty out there,
but I was thinking 3B! You would then move Kouz.
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
I'm not so sure he wants to come here
"Do I talk to myself? No, I just remind myself of what I'm trying to do. You know, I never answer myself so how can I be talking to myself?" - Rickey
Athletics Nation - WE'RE ALL GONNA MRIIIIIIIIIIIII!!!!!
by cuppingmaster on Jul 25, 2010 11:14 AM PDT up reply actions
I'm guessing that he'll take the best offer this time around,
and that the A’s will look like more of a “perennial contender” to FAs starting this off-season, compared to the past 4 years.
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
His stats will still really suffer, contender or not
..and it’s possible he just doesn’t like the weather.
Yeah, but he's a real upgrade over Kouz.
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
Kouz is pretty good this year though.
He's not missing bats and still giving up HRs like they're party favors at Chuck-E-Cheese - mikev
by designatedforassignment on Jul 25, 2010 3:22 PM PDT up reply actions
Yeah, nothing against Kouz
but his bat has its severe limitations (only 20 HR power and no plate discipline) and his defense is “good but not great” — whereas Beltre is special defensively.
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
During the offseason or during a game?
There is no A in OFFENSE!!
by wacchampions on Jul 25, 2010 12:51 AM PDT up reply actions
yes?
He's not missing bats and still giving up HRs like they're party favors at Chuck-E-Cheese - mikev
by designatedforassignment on Jul 25, 2010 12:53 AM PDT up reply actions
It would be pretty weird to see him just drop dead right in center field..
There is no A in OFFENSE!!
by wacchampions on Jul 25, 2010 12:54 AM PDT up reply actions
would it really?
i mean hes hurt everything else besides his life.
He's not missing bats and still giving up HRs like they're party favors at Chuck-E-Cheese - mikev
by designatedforassignment on Jul 25, 2010 12:55 AM PDT up reply actions
So like would they postpone the game or just cart him off and put rajai out there in his place?
BTW, I kinda miss going to games with you this season…you need to come to a game..
There is no A in OFFENSE!!
by wacchampions on Jul 25, 2010 12:57 AM PDT up reply actions
Dont forget....
Barton is a damn fine defensive 1st baseman.
"Carter's 25-game hitting streak isn't any normal streak. He's 46 for 97 (.474 average) during the run, adding 16 walks and compiling 81 total bases in the process. I'm out of superlatives for what he's doing." - Kevin Goldstein
why bother with a cart when you just dig a hole; it won't make the field any worse than what the raiders do
Ive been really busy this season but let me know when youre thinking about going to the next game. I meant to make both the AN day and Chez Nico but with working farther away this year the commute and staying out there has kinda made my home time nuts wtih friends to see, but Id love to go to a game with you and Ralph
He's not missing bats and still giving up HRs like they're party favors at Chuck-E-Cheese - mikev
by designatedforassignment on Jul 25, 2010 1:16 AM PDT up reply actions
Ok, well Ill hit u up one of these days..
There is no A in OFFENSE!!
by wacchampions on Jul 25, 2010 1:23 AM PDT up reply actions
I'd take either of them
So, is Cust under the A’s control next year? I don’t see him on that list
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by ChickenStanley on Jul 25, 2010 12:38 AM PDT reply actions
good call, CS.
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by Leopold Bloom on Jul 25, 2010 12:38 AM PDT up reply actions
Oh good
So, that means Carter, if he comes up, would probably have to play 1b, which would free up Barton to be traded? I know Carter can play the OF, but do they want that? Or does he get put in the outfield until they can see if he is ready for the majors, then they dangle Dale for trade?
Damn, I’d be very excited for next season if they signed Werth or Crawford
Zooey Deschanel!
Cluck 'em all and let the Chick sort 'em out - DMOAS
You're worried that you'll come off as nerdy as frack? On AN? That’s like being ashamed of your alcohol use at a meth convention. - danmerqury
by ChickenStanley on Jul 25, 2010 12:43 AM PDT up reply actions
this
the devil we know is pretty good, why rely on the one we don’t?
He's not missing bats and still giving up HRs like they're party favors at Chuck-E-Cheese - mikev
by designatedforassignment on Jul 25, 2010 12:47 AM PDT up reply actions
Especially since Cust would be gone after one more year anyway
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Im pretty sure its two now
He's not missing bats and still giving up HRs like they're party favors at Chuck-E-Cheese - mikev
by designatedforassignment on Jul 25, 2010 10:51 AM PDT up reply actions
I totally agree
but, he could land us something we need and we would have his replacement in Carter
Zooey Deschanel!
Cluck 'em all and let the Chick sort 'em out - DMOAS
You're worried that you'll come off as nerdy as frack? On AN? That’s like being ashamed of your alcohol use at a meth convention. - danmerqury
by ChickenStanley on Jul 25, 2010 12:48 AM PDT up reply actions
Well we need good hitters...and Barton is a good hitter so....
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by lenscrafters on Jul 25, 2010 12:57 AM PDT up reply actions
I like what DFA just said.
The devil we know is good. Carter could flame out. It’s certainly possible. Not probable, but stranger things have happened. Barton we know for certain is very good.
there is both right and left field for Carter.
He's not missing bats and still giving up HRs like they're party favors at Chuck-E-Cheese - mikev
by designatedforassignment on Jul 25, 2010 12:44 AM PDT up reply actions
Everything depends on the rest of Cust's season
So far we’ve seen singles hitter Cust and SuperCust…if the rest of the season is a combination of the two, i.e. high average plus bursts of power hitting, then next year Cust should move into the outfield despite his defensive flaws. You don’t need to trade for Werth because you’ve already got Taylor, Davis, Jackson and Sweeney for the other two spots.
Werth is a FA
He's not missing bats and still giving up HRs like they're party favors at Chuck-E-Cheese - mikev
by designatedforassignment on Jul 25, 2010 11:08 AM PDT up reply actions
That's the thing... even singles hitter Cust was basically the best hitter on the team.
Pam liked my old sig better.
But once you put Cust in the outfield....
…his value drops, unless he hits for power.
I think we did
cots said he had 4.002 days of service time and we kept him down more than 22 days.
He's not missing bats and still giving up HRs like they're party favors at Chuck-E-Cheese - mikev
by designatedforassignment on Jul 25, 2010 12:47 AM PDT up reply actions
so two more years of non-tendering and re-signing?
"The ego, the super-ego, and the Ed" - dannycakes
would you put it passed Billy? haha
Zooey Deschanel!
Cluck 'em all and let the Chick sort 'em out - DMOAS
You're worried that you'll come off as nerdy as frack? On AN? That’s like being ashamed of your alcohol use at a meth convention. - danmerqury
by ChickenStanley on Jul 25, 2010 12:54 AM PDT up reply actions
if billy had planned that he would have kept cahill down and preserved another year of him.
He's not missing bats and still giving up HRs like they're party favors at Chuck-E-Cheese - mikev
by designatedforassignment on Jul 25, 2010 12:54 AM PDT up reply actions
would one clay mortenson start really have killed the A's?
"The ego, the super-ego, and the Ed" - dannycakes
no
He's not missing bats and still giving up HRs like they're party favors at Chuck-E-Cheese - mikev
by designatedforassignment on Jul 25, 2010 1:08 AM PDT up reply actions
and Anderson.
"Swingles is Day to Day: IE: He’s being turned into a zombie, but they don’t want the world to know for another 5 days (retroactive)" ~Zonis
I just discovered this last night
Whether it was intentional or not, Billy preserved another year of team control on Cust.
I’m not sure that justifies the move, but if there’s any justification, that’s it. It’s a hell of a lot better than “we didn’t want to lose Eric Patterson, and Chavez was sorta kinda alive then.”
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by thejd44 on Jul 25, 2010 7:59 AM PDT up reply actions
Ah, didn't realize that.
Of course it’s a year when Cust is nearing his mid-30s but at the moment he’s not looking like a guy getting old and bad.
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
Bret Hunter still has 23 walks
in 26 Innings. Yuck. Al tho 41 Ks in the same 25 innings.
"Carter's 25-game hitting streak isn't any normal streak. He's 46 for 97 (.474 average) during the run, adding 16 walks and compiling 81 total bases in the process. I'm out of superlatives for what he's doing." - Kevin Goldstein
hes got one more year of leash i think
He's not missing bats and still giving up HRs like they're party favors at Chuck-E-Cheese - mikev
by designatedforassignment on Jul 25, 2010 1:16 AM PDT up reply actions
What happened to the sidebar on the left? It's gone if you leave the front page.
Pam liked my old sig better.
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by Rated-R Superstar on Jul 25, 2010 10:41 AM PDT reply actions
So Rajai is still
well, injured but not DL’d
Probably because we got nobody to replace him anyway?
by MobiusKlein on Jul 25, 2010 10:46 AM PDT up reply actions
nursing a sore hamstring
because pigs don’t make good yarn.
by MobiusKlein on Jul 25, 2010 10:47 AM PDT up reply actions
What???
We don’t have some white OFer named Matt in AAA who could come up?
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
I think we should start
Conor Jackson, Rajai Davis, and Ryan Sweeney in the OF today, with Buck as our 4th OFer. Because our injured OFers, who suck, are slightly better than our healthy ones, who suck even more!
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
Matt Watson and Matt Carson
when they are in sure do make the lineup worse.
I don't like the new shifted look
Looks weird on a widescreen laptop
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I'm assuming it's a technical bug and not a new look.
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
on refresh it's back to normal
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by cuppingmaster on Jul 25, 2010 12:18 PM PDT up reply actions
Anyone just watch the HoF speech by Harvey?
"Do I talk to myself? No, I just remind myself of what I'm trying to do. You know, I never answer myself so how can I be talking to myself?" - Rickey
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