Is Ben Sheets Being Showcased On Monday?
by Nico on Jul 18, 2010 6:12 PM PDT
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PrintUpdate by baseballgirl: According to Will Carroll's Twitter, Ryan Sweeney is out for the year. He's having knee surgery.
When Ben Sheets gets the ball tomorrow night, he will have had 8 days in between starts, from Saturday, July 10th to Monday, July 19th. There are many plausible explanations as to why Sheets, signed to be closer to the A's ace than their #4 starter, does not get the call until Oakland's 4th game after the break.
One is that given a chance to give certain pitchers a lot of extra rest, the A's felt it wasn't youngsters Gio Gonzalez, Trevor Cahill, or Vin Mazzaro, who most needed it, but rather it was the pitcher coming off a major surgery and a year off of pitching: Sheets.
Another is that the A's have no intention of trading Sheets before the deadline, so there's no reason to give him the advantage of facing the Kansas City Royals rather than the more challenging -- and often less stat-line friendly -- job of facing the Boston Red Sox.
And yet another is that Sheets is being showcased for the Boston Red Sox, whom if they're seriously interested in making an offer for Sheets would be interested in seeing, up close and personal, how Sheets looks.
I don't know which of the above may be true, but I will say that the Red Sox are natural suitors for Sheets. Boston is down Josh Beckett, has gotten very disappointing results from Daisuke Matsusaka and John Lackey, and finds itself currently out of the playoff picture behind two teams that don't figure to let up.
Other teams known to be interested in starting pitching are not necessarily good matches for the A's. The Phillies have one prospect (Dominic Brown) too good to wrestle away, and a truckload of prospects that don't hold much appeal for the A's. Similarly, the Mets have Fernando Martinez and then a steep drop -- and nothing in between that would make a good basis for a trade with Oakland.
Meanwhile, the Red Sox have several of the "B/B- level" hitters the A's might want and with whom the Red Sox may be willing to part. Lars Anderson (23 in Sept), a power hitting 1Bman has seen his stock drop due to recent struggles but came to professional ball with a high pedigree. Ryan Kalish , 20, though he is projected to be a "10-15 HR OFer," seems like an A's type player -- a guy in the Aaron Cunningham mold who does a lot of things well and plays the game right. Josh Reddick, 23, is projected by John Sickels as a possible .280, 25 HR OFer but one who needs more seasoning. The basis for a win-win deal might be there if the two teams are interested.
Eh, the A's are probably just getting Sheets a little extra rest to protect his arm. Or...
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Seriously.
How can we tell you you’re wrong if you don’t take a stand?
There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, Than are dreamt of in your philosophy.
I disagree.
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
Prove it.
You can’t just say “disagree”. Where’s your evidence?
There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, Than are dreamt of in your philosophy.
[provides note from doctor and poorly sketched drawing of man with penis]
sock puppets have never successfully defended castles, except when working with squirrels, which would never happen because squirrels know better than to trust sock puppets, except when their nipples have magical powers. -nm
by Leopold Bloom on Jul 18, 2010 10:03 PM PDT up reply actions
That's your answer to everything, isn't it?
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
I don't know about him but every once in a while I like to add
a picture of a vagina to the drawing too. Just to make things interesting.
Choosy Feebas choose Leopold Bloom nipples
You must conduct some strange raffles.
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
Guilty as charged.
Choosy Feebas choose Leopold Bloom nipples
I just watched myself in the mirror for 5 minutes,
and I observed myself disagreeing. Damn it, that’s good enough.
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
Small sample size!
You’d need to observe yourself for at least 30 minutes for it to be meaningful.
Also, to avoid selection bias, you should observe all other Nicos in the league too.
There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, Than are dreamt of in your philosophy.
Like Niko Gallego!
{Looks in the mirror for Niko Gallego}
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
thats not argument thats just contradiction.
He's not missing bats and still giving up HRs like they're party favors at Chuck-E-Cheese - mikev
by designatedforassignment on Jul 19, 2010 7:46 AM PDT up reply actions
no, it isn't.
sock puppets have never successfully defended castles, except when working with squirrels, which would never happen because squirrels know better than to trust sock puppets, except when their nipples have magical powers. -nm
by Leopold Bloom on Jul 19, 2010 2:41 PM PDT up reply actions
Yes it is
He's not missing bats and still giving up HRs like they're party favors at Chuck-E-Cheese - mikev
by designatedforassignment on Jul 19, 2010 2:44 PM PDT up reply actions
In order for me to argue, I must take a contrary position.
sock puppets have never successfully defended castles, except when working with squirrels, which would never happen because squirrels know better than to trust sock puppets, except when their nipples have magical powers. -nm
by Leopold Bloom on Jul 19, 2010 2:44 PM PDT up reply actions
But it isn't just saying 'No it isn't'
He's not missing bats and still giving up HRs like they're party favors at Chuck-E-Cheese - mikev
by designatedforassignment on Jul 19, 2010 2:47 PM PDT up reply actions
No it isn't, Argument is an intellectual process ... contradiction is just the automatic gainsaying of anything the other person says.
He's not missing bats and still giving up HRs like they're party favors at Chuck-E-Cheese - mikev
by designatedforassignment on Jul 19, 2010 2:51 PM PDT up reply actions
Yes it is.
He's not missing bats and still giving up HRs like they're party favors at Chuck-E-Cheese - mikev
by designatedforassignment on Jul 19, 2010 2:53 PM PDT up reply actions
Can't wait to see how this goes.
The funny thing about baseball is that people will believe what they want to believe. -Joe Posnanski 8/29/09
But I was just getting interested.
He's not missing bats and still giving up HRs like they're party favors at Chuck-E-Cheese - mikev
by designatedforassignment on Jul 19, 2010 2:58 PM PDT up reply actions
You overfetishize intellect.
Stupidity is the future, my man. Ride the wave before it rides you.
"Burt Reynolds witnessed the conception of his own dad, and frankly, that's what's wrong with him."- TPDMTD!
by Gaijin_Suketto on Jul 19, 2010 3:30 PM PDT up reply actions
did you pay for ten minutes or the full half hour?
"The ego, the super-ego, and the Ed" - dannycakes
Aw. Too bad Straw Man Sunday is over about 55 minutes from now.
"We were shit, pathetic," Guillen growled early in spring training. "We hit too many home runs."
by lenscrafters on Jul 18, 2010 11:05 PM PDT up reply actions
Yea, he's probably being shopped. I don't think anyone would be surprised to see him go before the deadline.
I think I’m fine with it either way.
Yeah, does it really matter?
We have BA-TC-GG-VM who are all great. Plus 209/Morty for the 5th spot. Sheets is just an innings eating 5th SP at this point.
-Yeah, I just posted that, but my opinion is apparently "wrong" a significant portion of the time though, so take it as you will.
And hopefully the OutMAN at some point.
What you fail to understand in your joyless myopia is that baseball is the key to life-- the Rosetta Stone, if you will. If you just understood baseball better all your other questions your, your... the, uh... the aliens, the conspiracies they would all, in their way be answered by the baseball gods.
rockin' the Outman Family Delivery, of course
Outman Family Delivery= my favorite indie rock band
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by Gaijin_Suketto on Jul 18, 2010 11:59 PM PDT up reply actions
better than Trevor's White Rabbit?
If Pennington manages 17 HRs, I’ll vow to consume an article of clothing to achieve a humorous effect --Joey C.
by cityplANner on Jul 19, 2010 12:10 PM PDT up reply actions
not likely
hes still months away. Youre looking at September at the earliest.
He's not missing bats and still giving up HRs like they're party favors at Chuck-E-Cheese - mikev
by designatedforassignment on Jul 19, 2010 7:47 AM PDT up reply actions
If that's the case, just get ready for '11
Choosy Feebas choose Leopold Bloom nipples
right
He's not missing bats and still giving up HRs like they're party favors at Chuck-E-Cheese - mikev
by designatedforassignment on Jul 19, 2010 7:22 PM PDT up reply actions
Yeah that makes sense... We have a full rotation of three starters, two zombies, and a AAAA pitcher
He's not missing bats and still giving up HRs like they're party favors at Chuck-E-Cheese - mikev
by designatedforassignment on Jul 19, 2010 7:48 AM PDT up reply actions
Mortensen's had a good year this year.
If the A’s are out of it in September, I’d like to see him get a few more starts so he can prove he’s a Major Leaguer.
"Burt Reynolds witnessed the conception of his own dad, and frankly, that's what's wrong with him."- TPDMTD!
by Gaijin_Suketto on Jul 19, 2010 9:27 AM PDT up reply actions
Who do you think are the zombies?
BA & Braden? Lil too early to make that call on BA.
-Yeah, I just posted that, but my opinion is apparently "wrong" a significant portion of the time though, so take it as you will.
Not really. I believe that hes probably destined for surgery.
and he had a long history of injuries in the minors.
He's not missing bats and still giving up HRs like they're party favors at Chuck-E-Cheese - mikev
by designatedforassignment on Jul 19, 2010 10:46 AM PDT up reply actions
Wow, we agree on something again! That's twice in one week!
Too bad it’s not something sunshiney and rainbowy.
"Burt Reynolds witnessed the conception of his own dad, and frankly, that's what's wrong with him."- TPDMTD!
by Gaijin_Suketto on Jul 19, 2010 11:01 AM PDT up reply actions
Pitching him against the Red Sox would give him more exposure
but would also expose him to a better offense, whereas pitching him against the Royals would make his numbers look better.
I don't think a suitor necessarily needs to have the pitcher pitch against them
that’s what scouts are for – to see the prospective candidates, right?
Slusser and others have mentioned scouts from the Phillies and Mets among others attending games where Sheets pitched.
"a guy in the Aaron Cunningham mold"
So he’s a guy we have for 2 years, play him in 40 total games and trade him?
-Yeah, I just posted that, but my opinion is apparently "wrong" a significant portion of the time though, so take it as you will.
Please, no more Aaron Cunningham types
We’ve had so many Aaron Cunningham types.
"I've made a huge little mistake." - G.O.B.
I should note he may not be anyway
That’s just kind of how it looks upon reading the scouting report: A guy who does everything well but doesn’t do anything terrifically. Kind of like Conor Jackson, actually.
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
Nico you stole my idea for a post, damn you!
I got home from work and was going to write a post very similar to yours but no need now…….nice work buddy.
By the way, I think that the A’s will hang on to Sheets if they are within 3-4 games of the division lead at the trade deadline. Beane doesn’t need to pull the trigger on a trade for Sheets until he absolutely has to. Remember the Harden trade? I think perhaps he may have learned from that move and unless the A’s go into a tailspin again in the next two weeks, there should be no hurry to move him.
If the A’s stay in this or even take over first place by the deadline, I would be in favor of hanging on to Ben Sheets, especially since there is no guarantee Braden or Anderson stay healthy the rest of the year. Also, I really like how he has taken a big brother role with the younger guys on the staff, and a veteran presence like that of Sheets is important, in my opinion.
I just worry that if the A’s are winning and right in it at the deadline, that trading Sheets at that point would be a blow to the clubhouse, and looks like Beane dumping salary and not caring about making a run at the division. I know I would feel that way unless Beane trades Sheets for a good bat, and Braden and Anderson are looking stellar.
7 games out is not a great position to be in but he guys are playing well and it’s not impossible. The A’s still have 13 games against the Rangers and I believe 7 against the Angels. If they take care of business against those guys and hold their own vs the rest of the league, they have a great chance to steal this thing! Anything can happen and let’s not blow it up just yet….
Go A’s!
"By the end of the year, I'll have Dallas throwing right-handed'' -Ben Sheets
Whoops! I meant "the guys".
"By the end of the year, I'll have Dallas throwing right-handed'' -Ben Sheets
SSS, but Aaron Cunningham has been pretty damn good for San Diego
He’s not walking anymore, but he’s hitting the crap out of the ball.
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by thejd44 on Jul 18, 2010 8:25 PM PDT up reply actions
This comes after not hitting well at Triple-A Portland. I am confused.
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by Rated-R Superstar on Jul 18, 2010 8:42 PM PDT up reply actions
smoke & mirrors
in that park it will not last
"Like I said, it’s like me giving you a high-five and chest bump after you hit for the cycle against the kid in the wheelchair." Vacafan on May 14, 2010
NL = AAAA
its no big surprise mediocre talents are doing well there.
-Yeah, I just posted that, but my opinion is apparently "wrong" a significant portion of the time though, so take it as you will.
Sigh.
Back on that again? If anything, the NL is AAAAA. Otherwise, all those AAAA talent stuck in AAA ball wouldn’t be stuck.
by LoneStranger on Jul 19, 2010 9:45 AM PDT up reply actions
The whole "NL is sooooo inferior" thing is overrated
First of all, so many guys switch leagues that it’s hard to talk about “the AL” and “the NL” and if you look at, say, the rotations you see that guys like Cunningham and Hairston are facing some damn good pitchers.
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
1 free out every 9 ABs
= pitchers not having to be at their best = pitchers lapsing in concentration = hitters teeing off on inferior pitching = inferior league.
-Yeah, I just posted that, but my opinion is apparently "wrong" a significant portion of the time though, so take it as you will.
not saying that it applies accross the board though
a great player is a great player. danny haren is going to be good no matter what. but jake peavy, playing in the NL at an extreme pitchers park, moving to the AL in a hitter-friendly park = not good.
-Yeah, I just posted that, but my opinion is apparently "wrong" a significant portion of the time though, so take it as you will.
LOL.
That argument gets worse and worse the further I read.
1 free out every 9 ABs
Fair enough.
pitchers not having to be at their best
When facing other pitchers, sure.
pitchers lapsing in concentration
Uh…right. You’re saying that pitchers have a layover effect when returning back to the top of an NL order? Not only is that completely unsubstantiated by pretty much everything, it’s ridiculous. That’d mean that the hitter batting after Yuniesky Betancourt in the AL would get a “boost” because the pitcher is still daydreaming.
hitters teeing off on inferior pitching
Tell that to Ubaldo Jimenez, Roy Halladay, Josh Johnson, and hell, Steven Strasburg.
inferior league
No. Not by that much, and certainly not for those reason, at least.
She lives by the wall, and waits by the door.
She walks in the sun, to me.
by danmerqury on Jul 19, 2010 10:39 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
ignore my secondary post why dont you?
Tell that to Ubaldo Jimenez, Roy Halladay, Josh Johnson, and hell, Steven Strasburg.
not saying that it applies across the board though
a great player is a great player. danny haren is going to be good no matter what.
-Yeah, I just posted that, but my opinion is apparently "wrong" a significant portion of the time though, so take it as you will.
Not even sure why 1 free out of every 9 ABs is relevant
to anything except that ERAs across the board will be lower, and games will be lower scoring. That’s like one huge “park effect” but doesn’t suggest inferiority of any kind.
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
All I'm saying is that
If the NL had the DH, it wouldnt be as inferior and there would be less and less case studies of lifetime ALers destroying the NL and lifetime NLers struggling in the AL.
Having that 1 free out every time dilutes everything. Im pretty sure of it, and it effects the game a lot more than you might think.
-Yeah, I just posted that, but my opinion is apparently "wrong" a significant portion of the time though, so take it as you will.
You're way overstating the free out thing
At most it’s one free out a game, possibly only one free out every two games. Pitchers suck for the most part, but they’re not an automatic out and they don’t always get more than 2/3 PAs a game unless they’re good. You groove a pitch to a pitcher hitting and they’ll hit that ball.
Choosy Feebas choose Leopold Bloom nipples
The "1 free out" thing is not actuall used in serious discussions about NL inferiority
Because, well, it doesn’t make any sense (nobody is arguing that pitcher ERAs are inflated in this discussion. They’re arguing that the overall talent level in the NL is worse).
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by thejd44 on Jul 19, 2010 3:27 PM PDT up reply actions
I know. And I'm saying the reason
some guys have better numbers in the NL is not due to inferior talent, but rather due to the pitcher hitting —> fewer runs scored.
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
We're not disagreeing, I don't think.
I know you believe the NL being inferior is more overblown than I do, but what I was trying to say was that the pitcher hitting doesn’t have anything to do with the argument for why the NL is inferior.
It actually IS inferior talent.
I guess what I’m wondering is if Player A is a worse hitter in the AL than the NL, how is that related to pitchers batting?
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by thejd44 on Jul 19, 2010 4:35 PM PDT up reply actions
Oh it's not.
I was just referring to PL78’s comments about pitcher performance and pointing out that you should expect a lower ERA in the NL, and a higher one in the AL, as a baseline.
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
also:
your counter points dont disprove my theory at all. other than cherry-picking and ignoring my comment that it doesnt apply across the board, counter-argument = fail.
-Yeah, I just posted that, but my opinion is apparently "wrong" a significant portion of the time though, so take it as you will.
Jake Peavy vs Johan Santana
-Yeah, I just posted that, but my opinion is apparently "wrong" a significant portion of the time though, so take it as you will.
Then Roy Halladay is proof that the NL is far stronger.
Also, Santana was more dominant in the AL than he has been in the NL.
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
what
Halladay has his 2nd highest ERA+ of his career this year, while being abused by his manager like crazy (He’s averaging 7 2/3 innings per start, insane).
He’s proof that the NL is weaker, not stronger, it seems this is going over you head a little here….
-Yeah, I just posted that, but my opinion is apparently "wrong" a significant portion of the time though, so take it as you will.
Hey, that's mean to say it's going over his head.
If you’re going to say something to insult Nico, at least have the decency to call him a “cupholder”
"Burt Reynolds witnessed the conception of his own dad, and frankly, that's what's wrong with him."- TPDMTD!
by Gaijin_Suketto on Jul 19, 2010 11:36 AM PDT up reply actions
Thank you!
Now just remind me, is the pitcher the one who throws the ball or the one who receives it? I may be getting in over my head here. And what shall I do with this cup?
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
Baseball is funny
Halladay leaves a team that struggled to score runs for the them and goes to philly which is consistently a top offensice club and they struggle too. meanwhile the blue jays lead the league in home runs this year.
Wear it
And what shall I do with this cup?
Unless you want problems like Adrian Beltre. . .
Im not insulting him
We just arent on the same page here. He’s saying Halladay makes the NL better by being in it, but im saying that the NL is easier for Roy, and thats why he leads it in ERA, BB/9, SO/BB, CG, SHO, IP, BF etc etc Its easier because he gets a free out. If a DH is involved, things would be different and he wouldnt be dominating as much as he is right now.
-Yeah, I just posted that, but my opinion is apparently "wrong" a significant portion of the time though, so take it as you will.
You might be right about that one,
however the idea that pitchers lollygag on the #1 hitter after facing the easier #9 hitter seems silly and wrong.
"Burt Reynolds witnessed the conception of his own dad, and frankly, that's what's wrong with him."- TPDMTD!
by Gaijin_Suketto on Jul 19, 2010 1:05 PM PDT up reply actions
Im just trying to figure out why.
Why does Peavy turn into a 4th starter after being an ace in the NL? There has to be reasoning behind it, Im just trying to figure out what it is. I might be a little off the mark with that one, but there has to be a reason somewhere. Im certain that the DH has a lot to do with it, and I think hitting is generally worse in the NL too, but, why?
-Yeah, I just posted that, but my opinion is apparently "wrong" a significant portion of the time though, so take it as you will.
Peavy was hurt and didn't come back to 100%
That has to have quite a bit to do with his decline.
"Burt Reynolds witnessed the conception of his own dad, and frankly, that's what's wrong with him."- TPDMTD!
by Gaijin_Suketto on Jul 19, 2010 1:49 PM PDT up reply actions
Petco
He's not missing bats and still giving up HRs like they're party favors at Chuck-E-Cheese - mikev
by designatedforassignment on Jul 19, 2010 2:18 PM PDT up reply actions
also
Johan led the NL in batters faced and ERA his first year there. That’s less dominant to you? Does not compute.
-Yeah, I just posted that, but my opinion is apparently "wrong" a significant portion of the time though, so take it as you will.
As one example, from 2004-06
Santana’s WHIP was 0.92, 0.97, 1.00. (!)
In 2008-2010 with the Mets, facing the pitcher every 9 turns, his WHIP has been 1.15, 1.21, 1.19. He’s still damn good, though.
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
Not as good as he once was though. Age and injuries have caught up to him.
"You see, in this world there's two kinds of people, my friend: Those with loaded guns and those who dig. You dig."
Santana is also entering a new phase in his career
He’s lost some MPH on his fastball after his injury last year and isnt K’ing people like he used to, but his ERA is still under 3. He’s extremely good at pitching, but as he gets older it appears he’s entered his “wily veteran” era.
How do you explain Peavy though? Or Josh Beckett’s 5+ ERA his first time in the AL? There’s simply too many cases like this to ignore. Im pretty sure it has to do with the DH.
-Yeah, I just posted that, but my opinion is apparently "wrong" a significant portion of the time though, so take it as you will.
Again, if you had a 3.50 ERA in the NL,
you can figure to have a 4.00 ERA in the AL, because all offense is suppressed/inflated in the NL/AL (precisely due to the DH).
That doesn’t mean one league is weaker/stronger; it just means that they play by different rules. Just as if the NL had a rule that every inning started with a runner on first base, it would suddenly become the league that had more runs scored, higher ERAs, higher RBI totals, etc., with exactly the same players, having exactly the same ability, as they do now.
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
In other words, the numbers shift, not the talent
Same thing occurs with changing home fields.
Choosy Feebas choose Leopold Bloom nipples
With a .364 BABIP in 74 PA.
It doesn’t seem fair to take the same argument for why Eric Patterson is a terrible ballplayer and turn it on its head to say the opposite about Cunningham.
I SAID it was a small sample size
Also, when Patterson was “good” his BABIP was more than a hundred points higher than that.
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by thejd44 on Jul 19, 2010 3:27 PM PDT up reply actions
More rest and being showcased have merit
If neither of these two had merit, Sheets would probably had gone opposite Greinke.
Nico, scooping MLBTR by minutes?
-Yeah, I just posted that, but my opinion is apparently "wrong" a significant portion of the time though, so take it as you will.
Well well.
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
This is one of those posts that should really be sourced to Slusser
(link) and not MLBTR.
Interesting there’s no mention of any potential Ellis suitors. I like the idea of moving Ellis and Sheets. I don’t think it really has any serious impact on the A’s chances this year, which are not good to begin with. I’d be fine with Rosales at 2B and if it means a handful of Mortensen starts then you may as well go with it and roll the dice on a grip of B- types.
by Aufheben on Jul 18, 2010 7:28 PM PDT up reply actions 5 recs
Unrelated to this, I am really liking watching "The Club" on MLB Network right now
They’re doing a behind-the-scenes look at the White Sox and have just been going through the stuff from Spring Training with Ozzie Guillen’s son, figuring out who’d be the final ones to make the roster – along with telling them – and so on. It’s good stuff.
Last of the Ninth - Photography
awesome, they're replaying it at 9
I’ve got it to TiVo
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Athletics Nation - WE'RE ALL GONNA MRIIIIIIIIIIIII!!!!!
by cuppingmaster on Jul 18, 2010 7:18 PM PDT up reply actions
comcast dvr FTW? Over Tivo?!
...being a role model I probably wouldn't recommend eating dirt. But at the same time, I'm not trying to be a role model. I'm just trying to eat some dirt.
should have said "me too"
and I have never used TiVo so I can’t say for sure. I mostly was just saying the tv recorders are teh awesome.
You have to include smiley faces - Poppy
;- ) :- ) :-O : -> : -] : -}
oh yes- on that we can agree!
...being a role model I probably wouldn't recommend eating dirt. But at the same time, I'm not trying to be a role model. I'm just trying to eat some dirt.
real question
why would TiVo better? does it have more storage? is it cheaper?
You have to include smiley faces - Poppy
;- ) :- ) :-O : -> : -] : -}
After using Comcast DVR for a couple years now
and previously using TiVo for many years before that, I can conclude that the TiVo software offers more options and is generally just better. However, I’d be really happy with the Comcast software and a box with a more powerful CPU.
Remember when the Tivo software was supposed to be put into Comcast boxes? Guess that isn’t happening.
by LoneStranger on Jul 19, 2010 6:08 PM PDT up reply actions
Possible
It was on a Monday after the All Star break last year Matt Holliday flexed his muscle in a comeback win against the Twinkies.
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I've thought this as well
Especially with Maz doing very well in his last 5 starts. It would be hard to send him back to Sac with just a pat on the back. He’s earned his place as a very good 4/5 starter.
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Seems a combination of a couple of things
The A’s know they don’t have to trade him, but if they do, they want a good return. So they gamble against the Red Sox. If he excels against them, all suitors will look at him as someone who will succeed down the stretch and offer up more. If he fails, all suitors will stop bugging them about Sheets and it’ll be done with. The second part is that they likely want someone eating innings in front of Braden’s start. He’s questionable to pitch or for how long. They may need someone to spot start if something goes wonky, so have the vet give them innings to rest the bullpen a bit before they go. Any of Cahill, Gio & Mazzaro, you’d like to see get the hook if things go bad against the Sox to save their arms. You care less about that with Sheets.
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It's true that even if Braden pitches well,
he’ll probably be on a pretty low pitch count.
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Great post Nico
I was gonna write some BS about adjustments, but can I leave this up on the FP til tomorrow’s game? It seems way more relevant to what’s going on than any nonsense I could come up with..
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by emperor nobody on Jul 18, 2010 7:25 PM PDT up reply actions
You were gonna write some BS...
Ben Sheets! By all means, leave it up like it’s a Wuertz slider.
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I promise to make up for it with a pre game thread
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by emperor nobody on Jul 18, 2010 7:36 PM PDT up reply actions
Greek goddess of promenades?
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by iglew on Jul 18, 2010 10:02 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Good points
And they also don’t know about Anderson. Even in the best of cases they’ll want to be careful with him.
by OaklandSi on Jul 19, 2010 2:26 AM PDT via mobile up reply actions
why not just trade now, and have Sheets start against us...then he can look even better.
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by ak_A on Jul 18, 2010 7:48 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
that is funny
Zooey Deschanel!
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by ChickenStanley on Jul 18, 2010 9:11 PM PDT up reply actions
Sheets doesn't make a lot of sense for Boston
Beckett is pitching re-hab in AAA and should be ready to return to Boston by the end of the month. Matsuzaka and Lackey have struggled, ’tis true, but not even the Red Sox can afford to banish either of them to the back of the bullpen. Clay Buchholz should also return soon.
I don’t know why the A’s set up their rotation the way they did after the break but it seems doubtful that it has anything to do with showcasing Sheets for the Red Sox.
The Mets have had some interest but that seems to be dying down. The Twins… maybe. Personally I think the best fit all around is the Dodgers.
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The Yankees might be an option if Pettitte's groin strain doesn't improve over the next 10 days.
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by thejd44 on Jul 18, 2010 8:26 PM PDT up reply actions
My "inside sourcey things" say that
A’s-Dodgers deals tend to fall through, i.e., “don’t wait up.”
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cause Colletti is a fucking PITA to deal with
and the McCourts can’t exactly add salary, so we’d be eating Sheets’ whole salary?
Pam liked my old sig better.
Just the first thing.
Numerous times the A’s have thought they had a deal in place and then been baited & switched, or backtracked on, strung along, etc. Not an easy team to deal with, apparently.
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I can believe that
But it doesn’t change the equation any. The Dodgers, because of their combined broke-ness and relative strength of farm system, matches up best for Oakland.
The Twins have prospects to deal but they can also afford to take on salary, meaning any potential deal there would result in a lesser package of talent heading towards Oakland.
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Beane's not afraid to make that kind of choice
i.e. Adam Rosales.
Speaking of the Twins, how about...Adrian Salcedo?
Intriguing kid (19yo).
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How about them Doublemint Twins?
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I dont think they make that deal
If you mean Sheets+eating his entire salary for Salcedo. If he is 19, that would be a superior deal for us, no matter what. Thats like getting a younger Chapman for the mere price of the rest of Sheets contract. If you think the Twins would be cool with that, then I am certainly on board with it….but I dont think they would be.
-Yeah, I just posted that, but my opinion is apparently "wrong" a significant portion of the time though, so take it as you will.
I have no idea what Salcedo's stock is
I just happened upon him — perhaps Sheets + Wuertz or Sheets + a prospect. I figure there’s always a way to even up a deal if both sides like the idea.
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I suspect that the Twins would be looking for bullpen help too.
I like a deal centered around Sheets and Wuertz/Breslow.
by Brett Narloch on Jul 19, 2010 10:29 AM PDT up reply actions
They've already cut Breslow once. Hee hee.
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by WaddellCanseco on Jul 19, 2010 10:33 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
So what? He's pitching pretty well this year...
they can just ride out his streak again and then non-tender him.
by Brett Narloch on Jul 19, 2010 10:35 AM PDT up reply actions
I don't want someone who'll make the bigs in 2013.
If we’re trading Sheets, I want someone in return who will make an impact in 2011.
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by Gaijin_Suketto on Jul 19, 2010 11:03 AM PDT up reply actions
Me too, but if the jewel available were to be a 19 year old,
I’d take him over the “ok” 23 year old.
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Normally, I'd be with you,
but this club and this fanbase have been pushing the “2011” mantra for a LONG time now.
That’s a lot of magical energy (for those who believe in such a thing) and I don’t want it to go to waste.
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by Gaijin_Suketto on Jul 19, 2010 11:38 AM PDT up reply actions
this
He's not missing bats and still giving up HRs like they're party favors at Chuck-E-Cheese - mikev
by designatedforassignment on Jul 19, 2010 7:53 AM PDT up reply actions
Bucholz is pitching on Wednesday grover
according to the official schedule at least….
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The problem is that away from the coliseum Sheets is horrible. You put him in the AL east he gets killed. I would put him in a pitchers park in the NL like LA. However, they have no money. San diego might make some sense with Latos hurt
I think the A's pont up the rest of his salary regardless
That way we cen (hopefully) get a better prospect(s)
WTF GEREN?!?!?!
Sheets for Scott Hairston & Aaron Cunningham
[hides as all the bottles & rotten fruit come flying in]
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lol
That would be genius.
-Yeah, I just posted that, but my opinion is apparently "wrong" a significant portion of the time though, so take it as you will.
Uh...no. Just no.
BTW, have you seen how Ryan Webb has been developing? His fastball is turning into something holy. To be held with reverence and respect and only spoken of on Easter. It’s regularly 96 with some of the most ridiculous movement you’ve ever seen.
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I am surprised how attached Billy is to Ellis. I would put him on the block to someone like the Phillies or Colorado. I would like the A’s to keep Crisp. I wouldn’t mind Crisp, Taylor and Sweeney next year.
I love Ellis and would be sad to see him go
On the other hand, it’s easy to slot in Rosales at 2B and bring up Sogard, who’s having a good year.
So is Tolleson
I feel Rosy deserves to be the everyday 2B. It would be nice to see if the A’s can move Mark to a contender.
Tolleson would be the choice.
He has defensive versatility that Sogard lacks, which replaces Rosales’ previous function. Rosales has been the third best hitter on this team (yikes), and is likely to be an all-around equal, if not better, solution than Ellis next year, and at a fraction of the cost. I suppose you could make an argument that he, like Sheets, should be traded before the deadline not matter what, at least if a good opportunity presents itself.
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Tolleson is also killing the ball at AAA
And not in a Chris Carter “well if you adjust for…” way. He’s actually not getting out very much at all.
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see dude, these are the kind of backhanded bullshit swipes at other ANers that you really shouldn't be making.
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by mikev on Jul 18, 2010 9:40 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
He's just expressing his opinion
It’s your choice whether to be here to hear it or not.
The monster at the end of this blog.
I don't think it's backhanded
It’s just the truth…
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by stranahanahan on Jul 18, 2010 11:25 PM PDT up reply actions
I wouldn't call it backhanded or bullshit.
Or a swipe, even.
She lives by the wall, and waits by the door.
She walks in the sun, to me.
But still, once you get past that, it's a fair point...
“These are the kind of that you really shouldn’t be making.”
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It's not that big of a factor, but Tolleson is also on the 40-man, while Sogard isn't.
She lives by the wall, and waits by the door.
She walks in the sun, to me.
Tolleson has 15 errors in 61 games
Maybe that’s flukey and he’s a great fielder, but that seems like a red flag to me. He’s also 27.
I'm assuming he'd become the backup, a la Rosales,
and that Rosales would become the every day 2Bman. But I’m in the camp that loves Rosales and still thinks he’d be “exposed” playing every day. He’s right where he should be, IMO.
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If Tolleson's errors are significant and Rosales would be "exposed"....
Trading Ellis would be a mistake.
I'm not for trading Ellis.
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but this is why you just go all out for rebuilding
you get to find out whether these kinds of questions are true if youre giving those AB to Rosales rather than Ellis.
Q can the A’s decline the option before trading him Ellis to guarantee that he would be available to resign in the off season in case Rosales/Tolleson/Sogard/Cardenas aren’t sufficient?
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by designatedforassignment on Jul 19, 2010 7:58 AM PDT up reply actions
Sick of the rebuillding treadmill
Are we back to the old saw about trading away everybody so we can have a new everybody to trade away?
good for you. its still a bad way to run the team
we should figure out whether or not Rosales is for real
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by designatedforassignment on Jul 19, 2010 10:48 AM PDT up reply actions
Keeping quality veterans = a bad way to run a team
Good thing you’re nobody’s GM.
mistakenly pressed "actions" on my own post
Screwy mouse.
Keeping quality veterans too long = a bad way to run a team
and quite frankly, Ellis is in the beginnings of his decline phase and his range is down.
Emotionally, I like him a lot and I don’t want to see him go, but if playing Rosales at 2B next season over Ellis means even half a victory extra, then it’s time to jettison Ellis.
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by Gaijin_Suketto on Jul 19, 2010 1:08 PM PDT up reply actions
i’m not sure he’s at the hill and going over quite yet. he seems to be having a better year than the last two, both offensively and defensively. but i can’t read a stat worth a dang and the year’s not over, so maybe i’m going too much with my heart in wanting to keep him—looking at his leadership value rather than player. on the other hand, and also about the heart, i already felt like i’d lost him and then got him back for a couple of bonus years, so losing him again won’t be so terrible.
really don't care if i ever get back.
by AV on Jul 19, 2010 1:24 PM PDT up reply actions
He's better than Rosales as both a fielder and a hitter
I’m seeing him get balls that Rosales isn’t getting, and he’s a much, much smarter hitter. Do you have anything to back up the idea he’s in a decline phase? And even so, Ellis in a decline phase may still be a better match to anchor the infield than Rosales.
Derek Jeter went into his “decline phase” five years ago, and he’s still Derek Jeter.
have you looked at his UZR numbers recently?
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by designatedforassignment on Jul 19, 2010 2:44 PM PDT up reply actions
I know I have.
Ellis is declining, and if he is a better fielder than Rosales, he won’t be for much longer.
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by Gaijin_Suketto on Jul 19, 2010 3:32 PM PDT up reply actions
"much, much smarter hitter?"
By that, I assume you mean “guy with a .319 wOBA compared to Rosales’ .335” right?
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by mikev on Jul 19, 2010 2:48 PM PDT up reply actions 2 recs
this
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by designatedforassignment on Jul 19, 2010 2:49 PM PDT up reply actions
I said "a much much SMARTER hitter"
But if you think that the difference between a .319 WOBA and a.335 wOBA is the only thing that makes one hitter “smarter” than another, then I can’t argue with that.
But Ellis is less likely to make mistakes on the basepaths, and he tends to move runners along at a greater clip, and his OPS with runners in scoring position this year is 150 points higher.
But Ellis is less likely to make mistakes on the basepaths,
I dunno how many times it has to be said that wOBA includes baserunning, but let’s go for one more.
wOBA includes baserunning, namely SB and CS. Also, if you cared, which you probably don’’t because it doesn’t follow with what you think, Ellis’ speed score (4 components including SB, CS, Triples %, and Runs) is 2.9 out of 10. Rosales’ is 3.9. Essentially negligible, that is to say there’s probably about zero difference between either guy on the basepaths.
and he tends to move runners along at a greater clip
I’d like to see proof of that, rather than just blindly making statements with nothing to back it up. I seem to recall Rosales moving Suzuki along from second base to win the game the other day. He’s moved 31 runners along all the way across the plate, Ellis has… 23. But hey, what do I know.
and his OPS with runners in scoring position this year is 150 points higher.
64 PAs? really?
sigh.
Pam liked my old sig better.
I love you so much it hurts right now.
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by designatedforassignment on Jul 19, 2010 7:26 PM PDT up reply actions
Including SB and CS
Is like including errors when evaluating defense. It tells you something, but it only tells you so much.
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by jeepers on Jul 19, 2010 8:12 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
Where are you getting these stats, for one?
You pull these out of a hat…not that I think you’re lying or anything, but it would be nice to have stats like these to back up things I say, when I need them.
Going through a couple…you make the statement that wOBA includes baserunning…it includes speed on the bases. I never made the claim that Ellis was as fast as Rosales. I said he was smarter. Then, to prove Rosales is better at moving runners along…you use RBI, a stat you disparage all the time.
Then when I mention OPS, you bring out your old stand-by “small sample size,” though of course one could just as easily argue that the difference between a .319 wOBA and a .335 wOBA is a couple of hits here or there, i.e. a small sample size.
Yet another example of how you and DFA massage statistics to prove your points.
Bottom line: I said Ellis was smarter — that’s from observation. It’s also something not definable by statistics, which doesn’t mean that it doesn’t exist. Derek Jeter may be a shadow of the player he once was, but he’s still a really really smart baseball player, and despite his age, he’s still one of the Yankees’ best weapons.
Well, for one -- I actually research shit before I post.
It’s amazing the powers of the internet. You can look up all sorts of information with just a few simple clicks. Try stuff like fangraphs or baseball-reference.
Going through a couple…you make the statement that wOBA includes baserunning…it includes speed on the bases. I never made the claim that Ellis was as fast as Rosales. I said he was smarter. Then, to prove Rosales is better at moving runners along…you use RBI, a stat you disparage all the time.
There is more to SB and CS than just speed, which is why I cited another stat. That’s called backing up your statement, which is something that you never do. You’re more interested in saying people want to bend the numbers to prove what they want to say, and more interested in making hyperbolic statements such as “Ellis is a smarter hitter” as if that actually means something when he is statistically inferior in almost every way.
and yes, I used RBI.. because saying OMG HE MOVES BASERUNNERS OVER is just as nonsensical. You have proven over and over that you have no interest in actually trying to understand or learn from stats, you just repeat what you feel or think over and over again and expect that sooner or later everybody will just say OK and agree with you.
Pam liked my old sig better.
I will be buying you a beer the next time I see you
very well put
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by designatedforassignment on Jul 20, 2010 9:40 AM PDT up reply actions
This quite frankly is horse shit
You cant say that youre not calling us liars and then say
Yet another example of how you and DFA massage statistics to prove your pointsWhich is quite frankly calling us liars.
If you really want to know, you get them at fangraphs.com and baseball-reference.com.
Youre point is also horse shit.
Ellis isn’t a smarter hitter than Rosales. Of the runners on base when Ellis comes up 16% score compared to 15% for Rosales. Ellis has a total of 2 more productive outs this season in advancing a runner than Rosales does. Rosales scores more runners from third as a percentage than Ellis does. Furthermore with 0 outs and a runner on 2b Rosales advances the runner more often than Ellis. Rosales also hits better in close and late situations than Ellis.
Furthermore the difference between a .319 wOBA and a .335 wOBA is a pretty substantial one and the measurement is over half a season, so it is pretty significant. Comparing 64 plate appearances to half a season sample is borderline dishonest.
Ellis does take an extra base 12% more of the time than Rosales but it its really impossible to say that that isn’t outwieghed by the difference in wOBA
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by designatedforassignment on Jul 20, 2010 9:39 AM PDT up reply actions
the difference between a .319 wOBA and a .335 wOBA is a couple of hits here or there, i.e. a small sample size
I’m pretty confused by the wording of this sentence, but it sounds like a fundamental misunderstanding of what small sample size actually is.
She lives by the wall, and waits by the door.
She walks in the sun, to me.
You figure out Rosales is for real by playing him at various positions
But really, you don’t need to trade Ellis to give Rosales more playing time. He can move from position to position on a daily basis. You also don’t have to worry about “the future” if you have Ellis for the next two or three years either…besides by then you’lll have Sogard ready, and maybe Cardenas, and maybe Weeks (ha! but still…)
You also never, never, never trade someone because you want to move them. Other GMs sense blood and bring down their offers, unless there’s a bidding war. Obviously if Billy Beane is offered the right players(s) in exchange, he makes the deal. But in that sense, everyone is tradeable if the right offer comes along.
not really
you will never figure out what Rosales’ defensive potential is doing it that way. Furthermore, shifting him around a bunch means that you won’t get a true sense of player’s potential as playing them every day give a sense of security and rhythm that helps players perform.
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by designatedforassignment on Jul 19, 2010 11:58 AM PDT up reply actions
we know he's at least decent, and not going embarrass himself
And we also know he’s a better hitter half of the guys on this team. Right now, I care more about his bat being in the lineup. My hunch is that Ellis is gone and we’ll get a look at his defensive ability next year.
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by cuppingmaster on Jul 19, 2010 12:58 PM PDT up reply actions
Dumping Ellis is a lousy way to get a look-see at Rosales
Rosales has played quite a bit at second base, particularly when Ellis was out for that month or so. When he’s in a groove (unlike Rajai Davis), Geren plays him every day. I’m not sure what Nico means by “exposing” Rosales, actually, but I think we are seeing Rosales and he’s a perfectly acceptable - perhaps more than acceptable — utility infielder.
I think the future is Sogard or perhaps Weeks or Cardenas. Squeezing a year or two out of Rosales at second base by dumping Ellis during this season doesn’t help the team at all - unless someone makes an offer Beane can’t refuse.
“Furthermore, shifting him around a bunch means that you won’t get a true sense of player’s potential as playing them every day give a sense of security and rhythm that helps players perform.”
I’m not sure if that’s even true. It’s true a player must bat every day, but play the same position all the time?
shifting fielding positions can interupt hitting
also it can interupt fielding routines.
Honestly Rosales is probably a much better long term option than Sogard.
Furthermore how does playing Ellis “help the team” at all?
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by designatedforassignment on Jul 19, 2010 2:51 PM PDT up reply actions
Is this gut feeling or based on some study?
I mean, your observation that shifting fielding positions can interrupt hitting.
Does the same gut feeling and/or study support the idea that shifting batting order can similarly interrupt hitting? Could that explain, for example, why Pennington is left in the #9 spot even when his performance merits a much higher position?
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I haven't seen anything related to batting order
but I have seen some studies related to changing positions which makes a lot of sense if youve ever played the game at multiple positions and confirms the traditionalist position on the matter. So basically everyone agrees except richwol1
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by designatedforassignment on Jul 20, 2010 5:36 AM PDT up reply actions
I like Sogard, but he doesn't have much power
I worry that outfielders playing shallow in MLB will cut off a lot of his dink singles and short line drives.
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by Gaijin_Suketto on Jul 19, 2010 3:37 PM PDT up reply actions
Disagree on Sogard
This guy is going to struggle mightily once he leaves AAA. I like his patience but it comes with absolutely no power.
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by Helloooo 1st on Jul 19, 2010 4:45 PM PDT up reply actions
They couldn't decline the option
The club they trade him to could agree not to exercise it, but surely would want some value in exchange.
I haven't decided on Rosales yet
I certainly like him a lot, but I also don’t know if he’s an everyday player.
But if the A’s decide they can’t contend this year, they may as well find out.
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by thejd44 on Jul 19, 2010 4:41 PM PDT up reply actions
Why?
If Ellis stays with the team through next year, then most likely Sogard will be his replacement, not Rosales.
No. Sogard will never be a starting 2Bman
Cardenas or Weeks, maybe.
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Sogard might be a decent backup on the Pirates or Diamondbacks.
I sure hope his ceiling is higher, because I like to watch him dink singles, but I’m not getting my hopes up.
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by Gaijin_Suketto on Jul 19, 2010 5:34 PM PDT up reply actions
have you heard of this Adrian Cardenas dude?
He's not missing bats and still giving up HRs like they're party favors at Chuck-E-Cheese - mikev
by designatedforassignment on Jul 19, 2010 7:27 PM PDT up reply actions
Yeah, wasn't he sent back to AA because he couldn't hack AAA?
I’d love for him to be in the picture.
eric sogard still cant carry his jock as a prospect
but youre annointing him future starting 2bman over Cardenas Weeks Tolleson and Rosales all of which have better minor league profiles than sogard.
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by designatedforassignment on Jul 20, 2010 5:38 AM PDT up reply actions
I'm unclear as to why he's not back at AAA now
He’s ripping AA pitching to the tune of .360 with power and should, IMO, be back in Sacramento.
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What about this team?
1B: Barton
2B: Tolleson/Rosy
SS: Penny
3B: Kouz
C: Zooks
LF: Rosy/Jackson
CF: Raj/Swingles/Coco
RF: Coco/Swingles
DH: Cust
Im all for trading Ellis then resigning him to a smaller contract next year.
-Yeah, I just posted that, but my opinion is apparently "wrong" a significant portion of the time though, so take it as you will.
Call me when our OF can combine for more than 20 HRs.
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
Will people still be using phones by then?
by Brett Narloch on Jul 19, 2010 10:30 AM PDT up reply actions
Yes, but they will be embedded into peoples' inner ear cavities.
After that, brain scanners will scan intended speech in the sender’s brain before the lips have a chance to move, and transmit it to the appropriate parts of the receiver’s brain.
In effect, it will be psychic communication.
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by Gaijin_Suketto on Jul 19, 2010 11:05 AM PDT up reply actions
and by "after that," I mean when the inner ear phones are obsolete
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by Gaijin_Suketto on Jul 19, 2010 11:06 AM PDT up reply actions
Have you seen Sogard’s slugging percentage?
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by Rated-R Superstar on Jul 18, 2010 9:25 PM PDT up reply actions
{checks under cushions on living room couch}
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Yeah
Sogard’s not really a viable major leaguer at this point. Good pitchers will see that he’s not going to hurt them, and his OBP will fall.
"Their batters are patient to the point that it's annoying." -Ryan Franklin
by Helloooo 1st on Jul 18, 2010 9:30 PM PDT up reply actions
Have you seen Pennington's slugging percentage in minors?
I’d much rather give a chance to a high-OBP low-SLG guy like Sogard than a guy who is unexplicably slugging .510 in AAA like Tolleson and has no chance in hell of repeating that in majors.
"Rollins helps them with the small ball when he's not in the lineup." - Joe Morgan
Pennington's minor league numbers are an anomaly
He was injured much of his early career and had his growth stunted.
-Yeah, I just posted that, but my opinion is apparently "wrong" a significant portion of the time though, so take it as you will.
That's why he's only 5'2"
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by Gaijin_Suketto on Jul 19, 2010 11:06 AM PDT up reply actions
Freddie Patek FTW!
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He was fully healthy in 2009
And he posted worse numbers in 99 games in AAA than what Sogard is putting up now. I’m not saying Sogard is the shit and will OBP .400 in majors, but the fact is there’s absolutely no reason to think that his skillset is automatically unsustainable in majors. It works for many players.
"Rollins helps them with the small ball when he's not in the lineup." - Joe Morgan
Sogard's best case scenario is David Eckstein
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by thejd44 on Jul 19, 2010 4:44 PM PDT up reply actions
Give or take an "S"
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Wait, what?
You would rather give a chance to a low-SLG guy because you don’t think the guy Tolleson’s power will play in the majors? Are you afraid of getting your hopes up so you would rather have a guy you know will hit like Jason Kendall than someone who has a chance of showing some power?
I mean Tolleson has an 11.5% BB-rate compared to 11.3% for Sogard so it’s not about OBP and most reports suggest that Tolleson is better and more versatile on defense. Basically you prefer a guy who is proven to be completely powerless rather than a guy who might have power?
I think it's pretty clear
That Beane’s attachment to Ellis means he’s going to exercise his option and intend to keep him around next year.
There really isn’t another possible explanation.
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by stranahanahan on Jul 18, 2010 11:27 PM PDT up reply actions
Why is that a bad thing?
Ellis is a class act, as a fielder and as a hitter.
People complain bitterly because players never stay with the A’s. I’d be perfectly happy if Mark Ellis spent the rest of his career with the Oakland Athletics.
by richwol1 on Jul 19, 2010 1:13 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
and remain with the organization after retirement
by OaklandSi on Jul 19, 2010 5:27 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
And serve as a coach/model for young infielders like Cardenas and Weeks
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by Nico on Jul 19, 2010 8:38 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
"So first you grind the unicorn horn into a fine paste...."
"You see, in this world there's two kinds of people, my friend: Those with loaded guns and those who dig. You dig."
"Here Adrian, you hold the mortar and Jemile you take the pestle...
COUNTER-CLOCKWISE! It has to be counter-clockwise!"
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Ellis = future manager
ship it!
-Yeah, I just posted that, but my opinion is apparently "wrong" a significant portion of the time though, so take it as you will.
by PL78 on Jul 19, 2010 9:53 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Suzuki too, if he stays in baseball after his playing career.
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by Gaijin_Suketto on Jul 19, 2010 11:07 AM PDT up reply actions
nah
can you ever imagine Kurt being mad? or getting tossed for arguing? he’d be a terrible manager.
-Yeah, I just posted that, but my opinion is apparently "wrong" a significant portion of the time though, so take it as you will.
But you can imagine that with Ellis?
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by Rated-R Superstar on Jul 19, 2010 11:26 AM PDT up reply actions
I can actually
He seems really professional
-Yeah, I just posted that, but my opinion is apparently "wrong" a significant portion of the time though, so take it as you will.
You just have to watch his base running and defence to realise how
highly he values the fundamentals of the game. I think he’d be good in a coaching role when he retires, if he wants it.
"You see, in this world there's two kinds of people, my friend: Those with loaded guns and those who dig. You dig."
What if Geren were a genius and made great moves most of the time?
In that case, his lack of fire and disdain for wearing an undershirt would be mere minor quirks.
I admit, we both like the fiery types, but a manager doesn’t have to be fiery to win. He can be stern and someone not to F with, like Whitey Herzog.
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by Gaijin_Suketto on Jul 19, 2010 11:44 AM PDT up reply actions
Where do you get the idea I was saying that is a bad thing?
I’ve been saying for awhile that I wanted this to happen.
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by stranahanahan on Jul 19, 2010 8:40 AM PDT up reply actions
Well you seem to overlook as a possible explanation
that Ellis is worth keeping on his own merit.
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I do believe that he is worth keeping
I didn’t overlook it, I was just providing the only reasonable explanation for Beane keeping him around, IMO.
If Beane didn’t think that he was going to exercise the option after the season, than I don’t see any reason to not trade him to a team who wants his services through next year.
Again, I’ve been saying Ellis should stay!
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by stranahanahan on Jul 19, 2010 8:46 AM PDT up reply actions
Does the option get waived if he gets traded?
i.e. Can we use that to increase his value?
by LoneStranger on Jul 19, 2010 8:49 AM PDT up reply actions
I don't think so
It’s a “club option” not an “A’s option” — it’s part of his contract that goes where he goes.
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But it's a club option so no team has to exercise it.
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Right, but sometimes the player gets it written in the contract that a club option is automatically declined upon trade.
Didn’t O-Cab do that? It was someone the A’s traded within the past couple years.
by LoneStranger on Jul 19, 2010 8:59 AM PDT up reply actions
No that was a "no arby" agreement
That the A’s wouldn’t offer arbitration.
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I am all for keeping Ellis
But if we did trade him to an AL East team he would have a good shot at this years Gold Glove, (as apposed to no shot if he stays in Oakland).
"Like I said, it’s like me giving you a high-five and chest bump after you hit for the cycle against the kid in the wheelchair." Vacafan on May 14, 2010
I'm not.
I want to see Rosales play 2B every day.
Barring that, I want to see Rosales in the lineup every day, no matter where he plays.
Ellis is getting older and his range is decreasing.
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by Gaijin_Suketto on Jul 19, 2010 9:31 AM PDT up reply actions
I sure hope so.
It’s not difficult to replace what Sheets has given the team, and depending on how Braden and Anderson do, he could quickly become the sixth-best starter on this team. I also endorse the sentiment about paying his salary to make him yield a better return. That makes the Twins a much more attractive target; with how overextended they currently are, they could use the relief a lot more than the Red Sox can.
Sheets is a move the A’s must make, because you can not only strengthen yourself for the long term, you can do so without missing it, and still take advantage in the unlikely event the Rangers collapse.
If you really thing you’re out of it, then a different sale can start, which is players that would be useful if you’re contending, but aren’t likely to be useful beyond next year at the most. In that tier, other players I wouldn’t mind seeing traded:
Ellis
Anyone in the bullpen not named Bailey
Cust
Braden (though it would be understandingly and astoundingly unpopular)
Any A’s outfielder on the big league roster that somebody actually wants
"PECOTA can pretty much kiss my ass."-Nico
I think the only way you don't trade Sheets is if he's willing to sign for a 3 year, very team friendly deal.
"We were shit, pathetic," Guillen growled early in spring training. "We hit too many home runs."
by lenscrafters on Jul 18, 2010 9:31 PM PDT up reply actions
Then you still trade him
Wouldn’t Sheets rather be on a team for 3 years that is better — thanks to obtaining a decent prospect? There’s no reason they can’t sign him to a 3-year deal this off-season if he’s traded.
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It's assuming he's willing to sign an extension now.
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by lenscrafters on Jul 18, 2010 11:05 PM PDT up reply actions
Ah, I see.
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that's wishful thinking
unless he really really likes it here, once he’s gone, he’s gone. I don’t expect to get him on the FA market for 6-7M per.
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by cuppingmaster on Jul 18, 2010 11:29 PM PDT up reply actions
Look at the hugs he gave to Barton and Braden today!!!!
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by lenscrafters on Jul 18, 2010 11:34 PM PDT up reply actions
hometown discount!!
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by cuppingmaster on Jul 18, 2010 11:35 PM PDT up reply actions
That's an interesting scenario.
My worry with that plan is the notion of Sheets staying healthy for three consecutive years. I wouldn’t mind him playing the Esteban Loaiza role if healthy, though.
"PECOTA can pretty much kiss my ass."-Nico
I actually think this is the right answer.
What do you consider team friendly 3/21? More/less?
I think you sign him to this deal and then you trade him when he breaks out next year if you aren’t in contention.
He's not missing bats and still giving up HRs like they're party favors at Chuck-E-Cheese - mikev
by designatedforassignment on Jul 19, 2010 8:01 AM PDT up reply actions
I would be loathe to go beyond 3/24.
I disagree with trading him if he regains ace level form. If he does, the A’s are likely going to compete, barring catastrophic injuries (2/3 or 3/3 of Cahill, Anderson, Gonzalez suffering serious long-term injuries).
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by lenscrafters on Jul 19, 2010 1:23 PM PDT up reply actions
Yup. Good GMing doesn't look like
immediately trading anyone if they’re performing well. “Buy low, sell high!” taken to extremes is bad management.
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His FIP and xFIP are still really high though...
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by stranahanahan on Jul 18, 2010 11:36 PM PDT up reply actions
Not enough Ks, looks like.
A sub 6 K/9 isn’t going to work wonders FIP-wise.
She lives by the wall, and waits by the door.
She walks in the sun, to me.
So do you think he's still pitched his way into the rotation for the rest of the year?
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by stranahanahan on Jul 18, 2010 11:54 PM PDT up reply actions
I'd say so.
Bad FIP or not, he’s pitching fantastically right now. Will he regress? Probably somewhat. But even a regressed Mazzaro is still a fine option. We’re gonna need a guy like him.
She lives by the wall, and waits by the door.
She walks in the sun, to me.
Worse comes to worse
Mazaaro can play a role out pf the bullpen, even though I’d rather he start. Still, the way the bullpen has been sucking he would be a welcome addition.
"By the end of the year, I'll have Dallas throwing right-handed'' -Ben Sheets
I was going to mention this the other day: I'm glad it's the bullpen and not the rotation that is sucking.
That’s much easier to fix.
"You see, in this world there's two kinds of people, my friend: Those with loaded guns and those who dig. You dig."
Joe Blanton before he cratered with the Phillies
is the first guy who comes to mind.
"Swingles is Day to Day: IE: He’s being turned into a zombie, but they don’t want the world to know for another 5 days (retroactive)" ~Zonis
if you look at Blanton's FIP and xFIP he wasn't even very good when he was here.
He's not missing bats and still giving up HRs like they're party favors at Chuck-E-Cheese - mikev
by designatedforassignment on Jul 19, 2010 11:26 AM PDT up reply actions
Ben Sheets' performance this year
has actually reminded me a lot of Blanton’s performance and style when he was with the A’s — good fastball control when he’s pitching well, good over the top curveball, lots of innings, about league average K/BB and HR/9 (perhaps slightly below-average HR/9), leading to relatively average FIPs and xFIPs through a good number of innings.
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by King Richard on Jul 19, 2010 11:32 AM PDT up reply actions
yeah and blanton was team controlled for three more years.
He's not missing bats and still giving up HRs like they're party favors at Chuck-E-Cheese - mikev
by designatedforassignment on Jul 19, 2010 11:38 AM PDT up reply actions
Indeed.
Course, I’m with you on the sign Sheets to a team-friendly extension bandwagon.
"Life is a horizontal fall" -Jean Cocteau
by King Richard on Jul 19, 2010 11:44 AM PDT up reply actions
That's a good comp
He goes deep into games and gives you a chance to win as long as you’re a team with a decent offense. Damn.
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I know, purely speculative trade idea but
Sheets to the Dodgers for Jerry Sands and Kenley Jansen? That seems like a reasonable return
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I don't know whether or not Sands can play defense at all
but if he’s at least not Custian, that seems like way too much to get back for him. I’d do it for Sands by himself.
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Question: Padres...
James Darnell, Everett Williams. How available is either one? They both sound like good A’s targets to me, if the Padres are keen on adding starting pitching.
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Darnell is ticketed as the 3rd basmen of the future.
Headley offensive struggles haven’t changed that, unfortunately. Everett Williams is available as well as possibly Adam Russell. Dont be put off by the numbers. He can bring 98 heat with terrific movement. I suspect his minor league struggles have to do with frustration more than anything. I don’t know that Sheets warrants consideration as fatigue will likely make him worse this season. You can’t just go from zero innings to 200. Bodies don’t work that way. It takes awhile to build up that endurance.
But we need an arm. He’s a good buy low candidate as this season is about building up his arm strength towards possibly returning to form next season. Don’t expect top talent for him though, won’t happen.
"Never have a motto, that's what I always say" - Me
Last night's start, where Sheets sat mostly at 85MPH, and topped out at 90-91MPH,
probably lowered his stock considerably. He’s been pitching well, with good velocity, but something is not right and so I agree with you — he won’t fetch much after all. I’d love for the A’s to add Everett Williams but Sheets isn’t going to get that done.
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sheets to yanks
If Sheets shuts down the redsox then he will be traded to the yanks. The A’s will get their 2b prospect Adams in the deal. This is the best match up I see.
I guess I just don't see the Yanks looking to add a SP
Pettitte will be back in a month and they’re pretty set. I suppose one could argue they’re freaked about Burnett, but in the playoffs they only really need 3 guys anyway.
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It also sounds like they're looking at replacing Chamberlain and trying to manage Hughes' innings
Although I don’t know if they could be convinced that Sheets really represents a viable option for them.
Replacing JOBA THE GREAT???
hahahaha
east coast media and their hype..what a joke.
Hasn't he changed the face of the planet yet?
That was the plan right? 2 innings into his career?
"I've made a huge little mistake." - G.O.B.
He was momentarily stalled by his nemesis: the gnats.
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bullpen
They don’t have a long man in the bullpen. Vazquel could go to bullpen as a innings eater.
The difference between having
Edgar Gonzalez and Johan Santana as your long man is…not much. Nobody makes trades based on who will mop up.
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Ben Sheets
Would the Padres take Ben and give us Galigher back?
We don't know that.
The Pirates made a trade, so he wasn’t put on waivers at all. And even if they did put him on waivers, the Pirates would have claimed him before we had a chance.
She lives by the wall, and waits by the door.
She walks in the sun, to me.
If Sheet pitches well and wins and the Rangers lose...
The A’s would be 6 games out. Would the A’s actually want to trade Sheets then?
not unless someone makes an offer that's impossible to refuse
Anderson’s and Braden’s health are still question marks for the rest of this season.
If Sheets isn't expected to be a type A or B player...
then I say trade him right now if they can get a B+ or A prospect. However, I don’t see that happening.
by Brett Narloch on Jul 19, 2010 7:40 AM PDT up reply actions
There is no way in hell Sheets would land a B+ or A prospect
You know how few of those there are in baseball???
Even less are even available, and none of them would be part of a trade for Sheets.
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by stranahanahan on Jul 19, 2010 8:42 AM PDT up reply actions
The Dodgers trade Carlos Santana for Casey Blake...
Anything is possible.
by Brett Narloch on Jul 19, 2010 8:46 AM PDT up reply actions
Carlos Santana
Was an A level player who had yet to put up anywhere near the numbers he did once he went to the Indians organization.
He wasn’t even on the Sickels grading level at the time of the trade.
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by stranahanahan on Jul 19, 2010 8:48 AM PDT up reply actions
And Meloan got a B from Sickels
Those players flipped values and rankings pretty damn fast post-trade.
"Swingles is Day to Day: IE: He’s being turned into a zombie, but they don’t want the world to know for another 5 days (retroactive)" ~Zonis
This makes me sad for the future of baseball
You know how few of those (B+ or A prospects) there are in baseball???
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by Gaijin_Suketto on Jul 19, 2010 9:32 AM PDT up reply actions
I think it's more a function of a grading system that's actually correct
Not, “12/43 on your Math quiz, poor participation and terrible attitude, so…We’re gonna have to get tough and give you a B++”
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Correct grading system or not,
baseball needs more Heywards and Strasburgs.
"Burt Reynolds witnessed the conception of his own dad, and frankly, that's what's wrong with him."- TPDMTD!
by Gaijin_Suketto on Jul 19, 2010 11:08 AM PDT up reply actions
Leave it to G_S to advocate for an abnormal distribution curve
A B -3X = Swedish girls like chocolate @('.')@
The dodgers traded for a RELIEVER
and gave up Josh Bell AND a young pitcher with a good K rate. anything is possible
oh, and they just DFA’d said reliever (Sherrill).
-Yeah, I just posted that, but my opinion is apparently "wrong" a significant portion of the time though, so take it as you will.
Kind of what I was alluding to earlier up in the thread
"By the end of the year, I'll have Dallas throwing right-handed'' -Ben Sheets
I think Sheets' contract
stipulated that we can’t offer arby.
Only if he makes Type A
which he has a 0% chance of making.
If he makes Type B, the A’s should offer him arb. If Sheets accepts, fine.
"Swingles is Day to Day: IE: He’s being turned into a zombie, but they don’t want the world to know for another 5 days (retroactive)" ~Zonis
The A's don't do arb.
This worries me in regards to Suzuki, who looks to me like a guy planning to go to arb this offseason come hell or high water.
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by Gaijin_Suketto on Jul 19, 2010 11:10 AM PDT up reply actions
He has close to a 0% chance of doing that, too.
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by thejd44 on Jul 19, 2010 3:31 PM PDT up reply actions
Sheets
for Relief Help.
If we’re going to trade Sheets, let’s get back a young reliever or two who can help for the next 4-5 years…. Our bullpen looks like doo-doo right now.
I'll pass on that...
We could get good, young relief pitchers for players who aren’t that good.
by Brett Narloch on Jul 19, 2010 8:21 AM PDT up reply actions
I just don't think Sheets is worth much right now
And, we are a .500 team with a “shot” at making the playoffs. Bailey and Breslow’s arms are going to fall off if we stay in contention this season.
by Colorado Fan on Jul 19, 2010 8:34 AM PDT up reply actions
So if he's not worth much, then the argument could be made to keep Sheets.
He eats innings that would preserve the bullpen, therefore getting more value from him.
Yes, it’s possible he gets bumped for the younger guys, however our track record shows that it doesn’t hurt to have extra starters.
by LoneStranger on Jul 19, 2010 8:43 AM PDT up reply actions
If Sheets stays, he will start, period.
He won’t get bumped.
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Right, or else he couldn't eat the innings to protect the bullpen.
I guess I meant he would be at the bottom end of the ladder, not necessarily in the bullpen.
by LoneStranger on Jul 19, 2010 8:47 AM PDT up reply actions
Yeah, but in reality there is no ladder
There’s 5 starters and the rest aren’t starters. He doesn’t need to be proclaimed “#3” or “#5”
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No, but I'm sure there is an order that Billy keeps in his head of 'favorite' to 'least favorite.'
by LoneStranger on Jul 19, 2010 8:50 AM PDT up reply actions
True: Chavez, Anderson, Patterson, Chavez, Cahill, Fox, Chavez, Braden.
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You forgot Ellis. I'd slot him in right after every occurance of Chavez.
Oh, and Geren. He’s somewhere in there too.
by LoneStranger on Jul 19, 2010 9:00 AM PDT up reply actions
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by LoneStranger on Jul 19, 2010 8:44 AM PDT up reply actions
Hope we've held out for lawn dart.
She lives by the wall, and waits by the door.
She walks in the sun, to me.
lawndart
was unfortunately on the “untouchable” list.
Much of this post isn't correct Nico
Similarly, the Mets have Fernando Martinez and then a steep drop — and nothing in between that would make a good basis for a trade with Oakland.
This just is wrong. Ruben Tejada is a ML ready SS or 2bman whose numbers are lower than traditional targets because he was put in AA at 19. Strong glove and promising but not world beating bat. Reese Havens injury prone SS/2b/3b, much like Cardenas in that he doesn’t have a defensive home but a has a pretty swing and has hit well. Both were targets I wanted for Holliday in my first DFA’s Possible Trade Partners. Famillia is a good arm. Also there is this dude Wilmer Flores who is probably at the same level as Fmart.
The Phillies also have some interesting pitchers in Cosart and Colvin and Jonathan Singleton has probably more helium than any other prospect this year, all of which would be sufficient starts to packages for Sheets.
He's not missing bats and still giving up HRs like they're party favors at Chuck-E-Cheese - mikev
by designatedforassignment on Jul 19, 2010 8:40 AM PDT reply actions
SSS
Maybe if he posts it a few more times it will regress to his mean post.
How dare you question Nico
"The guy was tasting himself too long to apologize."~Dallas Braden
by OptimistPrime on Jul 19, 2010 3:45 PM PDT up reply actions
sorry but I know more about other teams' systems than Nico
just like Nico has better connections within the A’s org than I do. His assessment of the Mets and Phillies system is just flat out wrong.
He's not missing bats and still giving up HRs like they're party favors at Chuck-E-Cheese - mikev
by designatedforassignment on Jul 19, 2010 3:53 PM PDT up reply actions
care to explain?
He's not missing bats and still giving up HRs like they're party favors at Chuck-E-Cheese - mikev
by designatedforassignment on Jul 19, 2010 3:56 PM PDT up reply actions
I dunno.
You seem to be saying it a lot recently, so I though it was the cool thing to do. I didn’t want to get left behind with the special bus kids. BTW, are we still pegging pants?
by LoneStranger on Jul 19, 2010 3:59 PM PDT up reply actions
Note:
DFA, this is not actually directed at you. I’m just goofing on the memes.
This is wrong
i put an explanation with my judgments.
He's not missing bats and still giving up HRs like they're party favors at Chuck-E-Cheese - mikev
by designatedforassignment on Jul 19, 2010 4:05 PM PDT up reply actions
This is just wrong.
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
I refudiate this comment.
...being a role model I probably wouldn't recommend eating dirt. But at the same time, I'm not trying to be a role model. I'm just trying to eat some dirt.
I love you.
The funny thing about baseball is that people will believe what they want to believe. -Joe Posnanski 8/29/09
I'm going to the doctor now
before it spreads to me
Zooey Deschanel!
Cluck 'em all and let the Chick sort 'em out - DMOAS
You're worried that you'll come off as nerdy as fuck? On AN? That’s like being ashamed of your alcohol use at a meth convention. - danmerqury
by ChickenStanley on Jul 19, 2010 4:53 PM PDT up reply actions
BOTTOM LINE!
Choosy Feebas choose Leopold Bloom nipples
And so many teams need more starting pitching
It’s always a coveted commodity.
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
Plus he has pitched very well over the past month.
by Brett Narloch on Jul 19, 2010 8:45 AM PDT up reply actions
And been an ace most of his career
One gamble — and it’s not a bad one - a team is taking is that Sheets is turning the corner and will pitch like a #1#2 in August and Sept. It’s not unreasonable to think it would take him 4 months of pitching to get there after surgery and a whole year off.
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
You get the idea.
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
Plus Sheet's salary might be high enough to get him through waivers...
So his trade deadline might not be until the end of August. Three or 4 more good starts might changes teams’ minds.
by Brett Narloch on Jul 19, 2010 8:47 AM PDT up reply actions
Though the better he does, the lesser chance he'd make it through waivers.
Meaning he’d be less of a gamble and a desperate team might be willing to eat the salary.
by LoneStranger on Jul 19, 2010 8:48 AM PDT up reply actions
and the less money he is owed
at this point its only $5M. by august is $2M or so.
"The ego, the super-ego, and the Ed" - dannycakes
I think it extremely unlikely that
Sheets makes it through waivers.
If nothing else there are teams that prefer not to give up much prospects but can easily throw away some cash. The New York teams, for example.
There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, Than are dreamt of in your philosophy.
This really is innaccurate
the Mets are pretty hamstrung with the budget and there really aren’t any contending teams right now with a lot of financial wiggle room, even the NY squad. Furthermore the Yankees cant block any trade to any AL team because they are last in line for waivers so a team that wants him could claim him and work out a trade.
He's not missing bats and still giving up HRs like they're party favors at Chuck-E-Cheese - mikev
by designatedforassignment on Jul 20, 2010 5:41 AM PDT up reply actions
I stand corrected on the Mets budget.
As for the Yankees, yes, I know they’re last in line. My point was that Sheets is not going to make it through waivers. I really don’t think he’ll get to the Yankees at all, but if by same chance he gets past the other 12 AL teams, I don’t think he gets past them.
There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, Than are dreamt of in your philosophy.
The Yankees don't want the extra money for a starter they don't need
hell get through waivers.
He's not missing bats and still giving up HRs like they're party favors at Chuck-E-Cheese - mikev
by designatedforassignment on Jul 20, 2010 11:36 AM PDT up reply actions
I agree completely
A lot of the teams would jump at the chance to pay only money for a useful addition, rather than paying prospects.
"PECOTA can pretty much kiss my ass."-Nico
except every team is broke this year
He's not missing bats and still giving up HRs like they're party favors at Chuck-E-Cheese - mikev
by designatedforassignment on Jul 20, 2010 12:16 PM PDT up reply actions
I don't buy that.
MLB is making record amounts of money. Every team likes to act broke it suits them, but they suddenly find money when it represents an opportunity cost.
"PECOTA can pretty much kiss my ass."-Nico
Fine prove it. Please tell me which contending teams need A) a starter and B) have enough room to take on payroll
He's not missing bats and still giving up HRs like they're party favors at Chuck-E-Cheese - mikev
by designatedforassignment on Jul 20, 2010 3:15 PM PDT up reply actions
But the assertion is such that it can't be proved.
Jeepers is saying we can’t know which teams truly have room to take on payroll. I could answer and say, eg, the Twins. Then you’d drag out the usual arguments and observations for why the Twins lack payroll flexibility, but that’s all beside the point. What Jeepers is saying (and I join him) is precisely that these analyses are unreliable. For me to tell you which team I think is not broke and for you to tell me why you think it really is broke will neither prove nor disprove the point.
The only way we’ll really know is if Ben Sheets does get put on waivers in August, in which case we’ll see who’s right and who’s wrong. Otherwise, we’re both just speculating.
There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, Than are dreamt of in your philosophy.
Heyman did a piece over at SI about arms available
It’s Here if you want to read it. He basically gives a short account of 22 arms of varying quality but does not mentions Ben Sheets at all. I don’t know if this means anything about what interest there may or may not be in Sheets.
Hmmm
There are many plausible explanations as to why Sheets, signed to be closer to the A’s ace than their #4 starter, does not get the call until Oakland’s 4th game after the break
The main reason I can think of is that Sheets sucks.
by HCF from Oakball on Jul 19, 2010 10:09 AM PDT reply actions
My guess is that it has to do with th fact that it's the Red Sox...
OR Sheets has a nagging injury we don’t know about.
by Brett Narloch on Jul 19, 2010 10:31 AM PDT up reply actions
I was guessing that it gave them 3 extra days to trade him, but that didn't work out apparently
Don't be such Ynoa et al. -- oblique
by WaddellCanseco on Jul 19, 2010 10:35 AM PDT up reply actions
Well, it’s about time.
The Ultimate Opportunist
by Rated-R Superstar on Jul 19, 2010 10:52 AM PDT up reply actions
Seems like it's evening out
Someone (Forst, maybe?) said on the radio a few weeks back that PCL pitchers were obviously throwing them (Carter/Taylor) crap, but that they were swinging at it as though they felt a lot of the pressure to bring their averages up.
The funny thing about baseball is that people will believe what they want to believe. -Joe Posnanski 8/29/09
Me too.
Oh, wait, we’re still talking about baseball.
The funny thing about baseball is that people will believe what they want to believe. -Joe Posnanski 8/29/09
You've got your pick of ANers though, which could be reassuring.
Or terrifying. I can’t decide.
"You see, in this world there's two kinds of people, my friend: Those with loaded guns and those who dig. You dig."
I really don't.
The funny thing about baseball is that people will believe what they want to believe. -Joe Posnanski 8/29/09
Yeah, you do
"The guy was tasting himself too long to apologize."~Dallas Braden
by OptimistPrime on Jul 19, 2010 1:28 PM PDT up reply actions
What's disgusting is that you're kinda right.
As much as those boys love their homosexual kidding,
it’s all just an emotional front because they’re all in love with YOU.
"Burt Reynolds witnessed the conception of his own dad, and frankly, that's what's wrong with him."- TPDMTD!
by Gaijin_Suketto on Jul 19, 2010 1:50 PM PDT up reply actions
YOU meaning Pam
(It’s hard to think with nine pounds of extra snot in my head)
"Burt Reynolds witnessed the conception of his own dad, and frankly, that's what's wrong with him."- TPDMTD!
by Gaijin_Suketto on Jul 19, 2010 1:51 PM PDT up reply actions
Well then.
I propose we do this like the MLB draft.
I’ll send scouts out to observe you all in your natural habitat. We’ll do third-party interviews about your “makeup” and “tools”. Bosses, family, exes – it’s all fair game.
I’ll spend a couple of months coming up with a board.
Then on the special day, I’ll send camera crews to all of your houses to gauge your reaction when you see where you ended up in the order.
Signing bonuses TBD.
The funny thing about baseball is that people will believe what they want to believe. -Joe Posnanski 8/29/09
by pam5981 on Jul 19, 2010 2:25 PM PDT up reply actions 3 recs
[starts working out]
Zooey Deschanel!
Cluck 'em all and let the Chick sort 'em out - DMOAS
You're worried that you'll come off as nerdy as fuck? On AN? That’s like being ashamed of your alcohol use at a meth convention. - danmerqury
by ChickenStanley on Jul 19, 2010 3:41 PM PDT up reply actions
starts working out immediately
"The guy was tasting himself too long to apologize."~Dallas Braden
by OptimistPrime on Jul 19, 2010 4:45 PM PDT up reply actions
Castro District has the bomb ones
just sayin
Zooey Deschanel!
Cluck 'em all and let the Chick sort 'em out - DMOAS
You're worried that you'll come off as nerdy as fuck? On AN? That’s like being ashamed of your alcohol use at a meth convention. - danmerqury
by ChickenStanley on Jul 19, 2010 5:11 PM PDT up reply actions
I'm fucked.
Choosy Feebas choose Leopold Bloom nipples
I'm not in the draft pool, 'cuz there's only one woman in my life
If you were a boy, though, I’d have to throw my hat in the ring.
(note: I’m straightly monogamous to my fiancee, but I can have all the men I want on the side, as long as she can watch, videotape, or we’re quiet enough that we don’t disturb her when she’s watching Dr. Who)
"Burt Reynolds witnessed the conception of his own dad, and frankly, that's what's wrong with him."- TPDMTD!
by Gaijin_Suketto on Jul 19, 2010 3:43 PM PDT up reply actions
Is the reverse true as well?
Can I also mention that I find it weird you’ve drawn the line for cheating at “Love – Heterosexual sex – || – homosexual sex.” I’ve heard of folks doing the sex vs. love argument, but never distinguishing between different kinds of sex.
I've definitely heard of this arrangement before
I think for some people (note: not speaking for G_S here) they feel like a person of the opposite gender from them does not qualify as a threat to “replace” them, and therefore it does not bother them in the same way. Perhaps this is the case for G_S’s sweetie.
Winner winner polyamorous dinner!
"Burt Reynolds witnessed the conception of his own dad, and frankly, that's what's wrong with him."- TPDMTD!
by Gaijin_Suketto on Jul 19, 2010 4:05 PM PDT up reply actions
besides, I could never live day-to-day with a man
I’m more like “just put the Benjamins on the nightstand and get gone already”
"Burt Reynolds witnessed the conception of his own dad, and frankly, that's what's wrong with him."- TPDMTD!
by Gaijin_Suketto on Jul 19, 2010 4:05 PM PDT up reply actions
So, you're not letting Bloom move in anytime soon?
by LoneStranger on Jul 19, 2010 4:11 PM PDT up reply actions
He can't live in Sacramento.
He’d melt within hours!
It’s 97 outside right now, which is nice compared to the previous weekend.
"Burt Reynolds witnessed the conception of his own dad, and frankly, that's what's wrong with him."- TPDMTD!
by Gaijin_Suketto on Jul 19, 2010 4:52 PM PDT up reply actions
Well
when 2/3 of one’s long-term romantic partners have identified as bisexual, one learns a thing or two (if one is of the curious type, and a listener). I’ll have to remember to take you up on the polyamorous dinner offer. 8]
Grilled Korean Beef ribs, or the vegetarian option?
I’ll be cooking naked, of course.
"Burt Reynolds witnessed the conception of his own dad, and frankly, that's what's wrong with him."- TPDMTD!
by Gaijin_Suketto on Jul 19, 2010 4:08 PM PDT up reply actions
I don't eat beef
so vegetarian, I guess. And if you’re cooking naked, that means I can eat naked, just like I do at home.
That's not very polyamorous
I don’t eat beef
There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, Than are dreamt of in your philosophy.
I'm engaged to a lesbian with a low sex drive.
She can have all the girls on the side that she wants, but she doesn’t want.
"Burt Reynolds witnessed the conception of his own dad, and frankly, that's what's wrong with him."- TPDMTD!
by Gaijin_Suketto on Jul 19, 2010 4:06 PM PDT up reply actions
BTW- Fag+ Fag Hag marriage = awesome
"Burt Reynolds witnessed the conception of his own dad, and frankly, that's what's wrong with him."- TPDMTD!
by Gaijin_Suketto on Jul 19, 2010 4:07 PM PDT up reply actions
Because once you get married and the sex with your partner stops
You’re still free to go find other folks to indulge with?
I mostly do BDSM play with others,
so most of the time, I’m not having actual sex with the men I fool around with on the side.
"Burt Reynolds witnessed the conception of his own dad, and frankly, that's what's wrong with him."- TPDMTD!
by Gaijin_Suketto on Jul 19, 2010 4:55 PM PDT up reply actions
Dude, could you seriously
not post that stuff?
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
by Nico on Jul 19, 2010 4:57 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Bahhhh
just sayin
Zooey Deschanel!
Cluck 'em all and let the Chick sort 'em out - DMOAS
You're worried that you'll come off as nerdy as fuck? On AN? That’s like being ashamed of your alcohol use at a meth convention. - danmerqury
by ChickenStanley on Jul 19, 2010 5:10 PM PDT up reply actions
For the record, there's a difference
between “innuendo” and “explicit description.” Plus, most of the bestiality you refer to is the community making references to paaaaaast stuff.
The ratio these days, and for the past couple years — if you haven’t noticed — is about 1 vague reference of mine to 99 by the community, which I can’t help. So you really can’t get me on that, sorry.
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
by Nico on Jul 19, 2010 5:14 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
the topic was going a little overboard
for a “mostly” baseball site anyways.
You have to include smiley faces - Poppy
;- ) :- ) :-O : -> : -] : -}
I'm with Nico here
I’m not offended in any way by all of the sexual stuff that’s posted here but come on guys, this is a baseball blog.
Little stuff here and there is fine, but what GS said above (and I’m not attacking GS here, he’s just the easiest example right now) borders on the unacceptable side.
"Their batters are patient to the point that it's annoying." -Ryan Franklin
by Helloooo 1st on Jul 19, 2010 5:17 PM PDT up reply actions
I thought that was what CT threads were fore?
by LoneStranger on Jul 19, 2010 6:10 PM PDT up reply actions
It's certainly not what the front page is for.
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
Well, I think there are certain threads where it
really doesn’t below. CT thread yes, Chez Nico thread (considering what happened) yes, DLD maybe and likely yes. Serious thread of any sort a big fat NO. The types of people and the expectations are just universally different and it’s extremely unfair for those who are actually trying to have a discussion. It’s kind of like going into a library and starting a concert or turning it into a strip club.
Choosy Feebas choose Leopold Bloom nipples
by DMOAS on Jul 19, 2010 6:36 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
This
keep it in the CT threads. When it gets brought into people serious fanposts, people (aka me) get pissed. There is a general truce that makes AN an enjoyable place to be. That truce is that the sexual innuendo and related ridiculousness stays in the community threads, which are game threads, CT, and other similar endeavors. To that end you don’t have analytic posters jumping down people throats for being silly or being wrong about baseball in those threads like they would if you say those things in the analytic threads. The front page is a place for a meeting of the two worlds but there has to be mutual respect, which I think includes leaving the explicit innuendo at home.
He's not missing bats and still giving up HRs like they're party favors at Chuck-E-Cheese - mikev
by designatedforassignment on Jul 19, 2010 7:53 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
K, that was not meant as personal.
Just a reference to another post that could offend some if taken too seriously.
I mean if people want to complain about an unwelcoming environment
as often happens around here, the level of innuendo really has to be something that is looked at. I mean hell there are a fair amount of minors that read and post and if you don’t know the people that are doing it like a new person wouldn’t, its fairly creepy.
He's not missing bats and still giving up HRs like they're party favors at Chuck-E-Cheese - mikev
by designatedforassignment on Jul 19, 2010 7:32 PM PDT up reply actions
I love that these conversations
occur on my favorite baseball blog.
I love that A's baseball talk occurs on my favorite innuendo blog
"Burt Reynolds witnessed the conception of his own dad, and frankly, that's what's wrong with him."- TPDMTD!
by Gaijin_Suketto on Jul 19, 2010 4:08 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Awesome!
Athletics Nation: your favorite innuendo blog
THIS is why I feel so at home here
[wipes a tear from right eye]
Zooey Deschanel!
Cluck 'em all and let the Chick sort 'em out - DMOAS
You're worried that you'll come off as nerdy as fuck? On AN? That’s like being ashamed of your alcohol use at a meth convention. - danmerqury
by ChickenStanley on Jul 19, 2010 4:56 PM PDT up reply actions
Being in love with Pam is not the same
as being available to Pam.
Pam is correct. She does not have her pick of all ANers.
There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, Than are dreamt of in your philosophy.
She said low expectations, not no expectations.
She lives by the wall, and waits by the door.
She walks in the sun, to me.
Awww, dannykins, you shouldn't say that about yourself. It's not good for your self esteem.
"You see, in this world there's two kinds of people, my friend: Those with loaded guns and those who dig. You dig."
BS.
If you had low expectations, you’d have long since been snagged or snagged someone.
Maybe you’d even be barefoot and pregnant right now, who knows?
"Burt Reynolds witnessed the conception of his own dad, and frankly, that's what's wrong with him."- TPDMTD!
by Gaijin_Suketto on Jul 19, 2010 1:10 PM PDT up reply actions
Barefoot and pregnant. Wow, living the dream.
"You see, in this world there's two kinds of people, my friend: Those with loaded guns and those who dig. You dig."
I know I said that on the CT show a couple of weeks ago
It’s nice to hear that someone higher up agrees with me.
"Burt Reynolds witnessed the conception of his own dad, and frankly, that's what's wrong with him."- TPDMTD!
by Gaijin_Suketto on Jul 19, 2010 12:55 PM PDT up reply actions
I tell you what...
If I’m the A’s main pair of eyes in Sactown, then this franchise is in a lot more trouble than I thought it was.
"Burt Reynolds witnessed the conception of his own dad, and frankly, that's what's wrong with him."- TPDMTD!
by Gaijin_Suketto on Jul 19, 2010 1:11 PM PDT up reply actions
Short stretches of high BABIP don't necissarily mean that it isn't just that hes hitting the ball well
He's not missing bats and still giving up HRs like they're party favors at Chuck-E-Cheese - mikev
by designatedforassignment on Jul 19, 2010 12:00 PM PDT up reply actions
what?
The funny thing about baseball is that people will believe what they want to believe. -Joe Posnanski 8/29/09
long streches of high BABIP are unsustainable
but short stretches often are just that a player is hitting the ball hard.
He's not missing bats and still giving up HRs like they're party favors at Chuck-E-Cheese - mikev
by designatedforassignment on Jul 19, 2010 12:25 PM PDT up reply actions
correct
his BB rate is also good.
"Life is a horizontal fall" -Jean Cocteau
by King Richard on Jul 19, 2010 12:05 PM PDT up reply actions
Would like to see a few more dingers...
Taylor’s complete collapse this year has been an enigma to me. I don’t think you can blame it all on the calf injury (he was sucking before it happened).
"We were shit, pathetic," Guillen growled early in spring training. "We hit too many home runs."
by lenscrafters on Jul 19, 2010 1:24 PM PDT up reply actions
Players have down years all the time.
To be honest, I wouldn’t hesitate to move him up to the bigs next year even if his OPS doesn’t touch .750 at the end of the year.
by Brett Narloch on Jul 19, 2010 1:26 PM PDT up reply actions
If he has a good spring (which may or may not be meaningless), I'd have to consider it
At least he’ll get pitched to in the A’s lineup, unlike the slop they throw him and Carter in Sac.
"Burt Reynolds witnessed the conception of his own dad, and frankly, that's what's wrong with him."- TPDMTD!
by Gaijin_Suketto on Jul 19, 2010 1:28 PM PDT up reply actions
Talent is talent.
You don’t keep him in AAA until he’s 27 years old. He’s had a lot of ABs in the minors. It’s time to see what he can do… starting next year’s opening day.
by Brett Narloch on Jul 19, 2010 1:35 PM PDT up reply actions
I'm with you 74%
"Burt Reynolds witnessed the conception of his own dad, and frankly, that's what's wrong with him."- TPDMTD!
by Gaijin_Suketto on Jul 19, 2010 1:52 PM PDT up reply actions
{Which is actually 82% when park adjusted}
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
actually, it was generated in the SPWC
and our pitching numbers are all skewed because we only play 6 inning games.
ERA’s are lower because ER’s are multiplied by 6 rather than 9.
As for our batting numbers, all I can say is I’m still on the quest to get my average above the Mendoza line (known in our league as the K-Line, because my name is K and I haven’t hit over .200 since 2006.
"Burt Reynolds witnessed the conception of his own dad, and frankly, that's what's wrong with him."- TPDMTD!
by Gaijin_Suketto on Jul 19, 2010 3:47 PM PDT up reply actions
If you used PL78's stat you wouldn't need a 6 or a 9.
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
I would
Don’t press him or take up his service time when he hasn’t proved himself in an inferior league. When he struggles, you flat out won’t know whether it was because he was ready or because he’s going through the motions of figuring shit out.
Choosy Feebas choose Leopold Bloom nipples
Someone probably already posted this SuSlu article...
… but she says the Twins and Phillies remain interested in Sheets and Detroit is making with the coveting on Mike Wuertz and Craig Breslow.
So there are your confirmed potential trade partners.
"I've made a huge little mistake." - G.O.B.
Don't trade Breslow, please!
He’s smart and he gets people out and he wears #56, thus, he’s my favorite player on the A’s.
"Burt Reynolds witnessed the conception of his own dad, and frankly, that's what's wrong with him."- TPDMTD!
by Gaijin_Suketto on Jul 19, 2010 11:11 AM PDT up reply actions
please don't trade Breslow
because if we do our bullpen will consistently suck instead of sporadically suck
"The guy was tasting himself too long to apologize."~Dallas Braden
by OptimistPrime on Jul 19, 2010 1:26 PM PDT up reply actions
Completely offtopic:
assets.backtype.com , widgets.backtype.com , pixel.quantserve.com , static.ak.fbcdn.net , and s17.sitemeter.com make AN load horribly slow. Before the right-hand sidebar will load, the site needs to contact those five sites. That last main page load took a full minute and a half. Really, SBN? That’s absurd.
She lives by the wall, and waits by the door.
She walks in the sun, to me.
by danmerqury on Jul 19, 2010 11:25 AM PDT reply actions 32 recs
Friends and fellow AN'ers...
I would like to make the above comment the GREENEST comment of the summer.
Anybody frustrated with load times should join the crusade.
"Burt Reynolds witnessed the conception of his own dad, and frankly, that's what's wrong with him."- TPDMTD!
by Gaijin_Suketto on Jul 19, 2010 11:40 AM PDT up reply actions
sometimes i can't even get to the front page
just says it can’t load. i hit refresh a millions times or wait a couple minutes and it’s usually fine, but sometimes i don’t feel like dealing and i travel elsewhere.
And when you open a big thread with untagged comments
and it saves those comments as read. Not good for the site at all.
Choosy Feebas choose Leopold Bloom nipples
Oh that would be cool!
“Turn it darker green!”
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
14 recs in 3 hours is a heck of a start
"Burt Reynolds witnessed the conception of his own dad, and frankly, that's what's wrong with him."- TPDMTD!
by Gaijin_Suketto on Jul 19, 2010 2:25 PM PDT up reply actions
I turned this amp to 15
-Yeah, I just posted that, but my opinion is apparently "wrong" a significant portion of the time though, so take it as you will.
27 after 5 1/2 hours
"Burt Reynolds witnessed the conception of his own dad, and frankly, that's what's wrong with him."- TPDMTD!
by Gaijin_Suketto on Jul 19, 2010 4:56 PM PDT up reply actions
getclicky.com is always the one that hangs up for me.
super frustrating.
The funny thing about baseball is that people will believe what they want to believe. -Joe Posnanski 8/29/09
green
"The guy was tasting himself too long to apologize."~Dallas Braden
by OptimistPrime on Jul 19, 2010 1:22 PM PDT up reply actions
I wrote to support about this issue.
Thanks, Dan!
"Oh who am I kidding? The A's and Giants could stage a pillow fight, and I'd still care who wins." -67Marquez
by baseballgirl on Jul 19, 2010 2:42 PM PDT up reply actions
I did too!
The more, the better, I suppose.
She lives by the wall, and waits by the door.
She walks in the sun, to me.
does it work that way?
sock puppets have never successfully defended castles, except when working with squirrels, which would never happen because squirrels know better than to trust sock puppets, except when their nipples have magical powers. -nm
by Leopold Bloom on Jul 19, 2010 2:51 PM PDT up reply actions
I'll help too.
I’ll even be professional-like about it and not drop any hobo sex references.
"Burt Reynolds witnessed the conception of his own dad, and frankly, that's what's wrong with him."- TPDMTD!
by Gaijin_Suketto on Jul 19, 2010 3:48 PM PDT up reply actions
You don't get a faster response,
but the text you send them becomes a darker green.
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
A lot of help you are.
"Burt Reynolds witnessed the conception of his own dad, and frankly, that's what's wrong with him."- TPDMTD!
by Gaijin_Suketto on Jul 19, 2010 4:57 PM PDT up reply actions
Yes, I am getting sick and tired of those things needing to load before the page displays the right-hand sidebar
I don’t know if it’s something that has to be that way for it all to load, but I’ve also had some really slow load times while those things process. I would like to know exactly what each of them are for.
Last of the Ninth - Photography
The SB Nation roundtable widget made things worse.
It’s pointless and silly, unless the widget displays new real-time conversation as it happens, but it doesn’t, and I doubt it ever will.
"Burt Reynolds witnessed the conception of his own dad, and frankly, that's what's wrong with him."- TPDMTD!
by Gaijin_Suketto on Jul 19, 2010 3:49 PM PDT up reply actions
It's been bumped near the top
I don’t want to scroll to get to the fanposts
100% Athletics, 100% Baseball. 2009 Athletics, 40% Baseball.
And even if it did, it would be pointless
because I DON’T CARE what these people are saying.
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
by Nico on Jul 19, 2010 4:21 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
you should... theyre smart people. the format is just stupid as fuck.
He's not missing bats and still giving up HRs like they're party favors at Chuck-E-Cheese - mikev
by designatedforassignment on Jul 19, 2010 4:23 PM PDT up reply actions
I kinda think that cloistered Buddhist monks are the only smart people in the world
Everyone else is an addict or a dumbass.
"Burt Reynolds witnessed the conception of his own dad, and frankly, that's what's wrong with him."- TPDMTD!
by Gaijin_Suketto on Jul 19, 2010 4:59 PM PDT up reply actions
That's ridiculous
I’m not an addict.
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
Google helps.
As far as I can tell, backtype is a “social analytics program that helps companies understand their social impact”. Fbcdn is related to facebook, with, what I guess, the Like button.
She lives by the wall, and waits by the door.
She walks in the sun, to me.
In other words
Things that we don’t actually need.
Choosy Feebas choose Leopold Bloom nipples
Latos is on the DL for the Padres
they could use Sheets.
The A's are a fairly quiet team, and then there's Ben Sheets. Sheets, as a kid, must have been thrown out of every library in Baton Rouge. ~ Scott Ostler
The Latos thing isn't that big a deal
They were already planning to give him a couple weeks off to keep his innings down and then apparently injured himself sneezing so now they have an excuse to put him on the DL for his already scheduled break.
Will Carroll just tweeted that Sweeney is out for the year. Knee surgery
http://twitter.com/injuryexpert
Bring back Hammer.
Thanks OP!
Did that say “knees surgery”? As in both?
"Oh who am I kidding? The A's and Giants could stage a pillow fight, and I'd still care who wins." -67Marquez
by baseballgirl on Jul 19, 2010 2:42 PM PDT up reply actions
And call me crazy, but I like Raj and Coco together.
"Oh who am I kidding? The A's and Giants could stage a pillow fight, and I'd still care who wins." -67Marquez
by baseballgirl on Jul 19, 2010 2:43 PM PDT up reply actions
like, dating?
sock puppets have never successfully defended castles, except when working with squirrels, which would never happen because squirrels know better than to trust sock puppets, except when their nipples have magical powers. -nm
by Leopold Bloom on Jul 19, 2010 2:44 PM PDT up reply actions
They are kinda cute together
Zooey Deschanel!
Cluck 'em all and let the Chick sort 'em out - DMOAS
You're worried that you'll come off as nerdy as fuck? On AN? That’s like being ashamed of your alcohol use at a meth convention. - danmerqury
by ChickenStanley on Jul 19, 2010 3:37 PM PDT up reply actions
Well, now we could have Jackson/Coco/Raj
which doesn’t strike me as being half bad. Well, by our standards.
She lives by the wall, and waits by the door.
She walks in the sun, to me.
But...we don't actually HAVE New Guy.
The funny thing about baseball is that people will believe what they want to believe. -Joe Posnanski 8/29/09
Er...when we have New Guy. Which should be soon. Or in four years.
Until then…(Rosales/Carson/Watson/Gross)/Coco/Raj?
That’s worse. By our standards.
She lives by the wall, and waits by the door.
She walks in the sun, to me.
Won't be soon
Choosy Feebas choose Leopold Bloom nipples
ROSALES-DAVIS-CRISP
PLEASEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
-Yeah, I just posted that, but my opinion is apparently "wrong" a significant portion of the time though, so take it as you will.
No more Swingles?
sock puppets have never successfully defended castles, except when working with squirrels, which would never happen because squirrels know better than to trust sock puppets, except when their nipples have magical powers. -nm
by Leopold Bloom on Jul 19, 2010 2:45 PM PDT up reply actions
[bows head in silence]
Zooey Deschanel!
Cluck 'em all and let the Chick sort 'em out - DMOAS
You're worried that you'll come off as nerdy as fuck? On AN? That’s like being ashamed of your alcohol use at a meth convention. - danmerqury
by ChickenStanley on Jul 19, 2010 3:38 PM PDT up reply actions
my TV just went on. this actually works!
really don't care if i ever get back.
by AV on Jul 19, 2010 3:38 PM PDT up reply actions
this is probably better long term
He's not missing bats and still giving up HRs like they're party favors at Chuck-E-Cheese - mikev
by designatedforassignment on Jul 19, 2010 2:49 PM PDT up reply actions
Yeah.
I’d much rather he get healed and fixed, than continue to play on balky knees. Still, I’d rather he didn’t have those bad knees in the first place.
She lives by the wall, and waits by the door.
She walks in the sun, to me.
which is why I really hate that the A's don't just DL players like Sweeney before they permenently hurt themselves
He's not missing bats and still giving up HRs like they're party favors at Chuck-E-Cheese - mikev
by designatedforassignment on Jul 19, 2010 2:52 PM PDT up reply actions 4 recs
Turn THAT green
"Oh who am I kidding? The A's and Giants could stage a pillow fight, and I'd still care who wins." -67Marquez
by baseballgirl on Jul 19, 2010 3:35 PM PDT up reply actions
For you, you got it.
thanks for writing to support about the load times issue, BTW.
"Burt Reynolds witnessed the conception of his own dad, and frankly, that's what's wrong with him."- TPDMTD!
by Gaijin_Suketto on Jul 19, 2010 3:51 PM PDT up reply actions
Guys, we just lost about 20 GIDPs on the year!
This can only be a good thing.
-Yeah, I just posted that, but my opinion is apparently "wrong" a significant portion of the time though, so take it as you will.
If they're gonna go that route,
they should hire you to coach first base.
I’d give you third, but Gallego is ugly enough as it is.
"Burt Reynolds witnessed the conception of his own dad, and frankly, that's what's wrong with him."- TPDMTD!
by Gaijin_Suketto on Jul 19, 2010 3:52 PM PDT up reply actions
usually
He's not missing bats and still giving up HRs like they're party favors at Chuck-E-Cheese - mikev
by designatedforassignment on Jul 19, 2010 2:54 PM PDT up reply actions
Bring back Travis Buck!
"Carter's 25-game hitting streak isn't any normal streak. He's 46 for 97 (.474 average) during the run, adding 16 walks and compiling 81 total bases in the process. I'm out of superlatives for what he's doing." - Kevin Goldstein
for three days till he tweeks somehting again?
He's not missing bats and still giving up HRs like they're party favors at Chuck-E-Cheese - mikev
by designatedforassignment on Jul 19, 2010 2:54 PM PDT up reply actions
noooooooooooooooooooooooo
thanks.
I’ll take Rosy-Raj-Coco FTW. C-Jax can be the 4th.
-Yeah, I just posted that, but my opinion is apparently "wrong" a significant portion of the time though, so take it as you will.
If Rosales is playing left, they should try to find a backup infielder.
I guess they could call up Tolleson and drop one of the Matts.
www.zekeishungry.com
by thejd44 on Jul 19, 2010 3:33 PM PDT up reply actions
Sounds like a great idea.
I’d be okay if they called up Sogard instead of Tolleson, but I don’t expect him to OPS too much higher than .600 at the big league level. Tolleson’s hotter than blue blazes and Rosales needs to be in the lineup every day.
"Burt Reynolds witnessed the conception of his own dad, and frankly, that's what's wrong with him."- TPDMTD!
by Gaijin_Suketto on Jul 19, 2010 3:54 PM PDT up reply actions
Sogard can't play anywhere other than second though
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by thejd44 on Jul 19, 2010 4:12 PM PDT up reply actions
About time.
Other than that, I’m pretty unaffected by this news.
"Life is a horizontal fall" -Jean Cocteau
I'm distraught
I seriously thought he could be a “2 HR guy” this year.
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
i was making a paper-mache crown, modeled just like the one Babe Ruth
wore in some old b/w clips I have seen…..was gonna fly down and present it if he got to Three HR’s.
alaska A residing in northern Idaho.
Hell, screw Michael Taylor, call up Michael Choice!!!
"Life is a horizontal fall" -Jean Cocteau
by King Richard on Jul 19, 2010 3:03 PM PDT up reply actions
Let his season a bit more still.
He just started making contact over the last month or so. That on top of the fact that even though he’s hitting over .300 in July he’s doing it without much power means he should get another month or two to figure things out.
by Mr. Clean Sweep on Jul 19, 2010 3:14 PM PDT up reply actions
Call up someone who's getting younger!
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
Brad Pitt!
He has been linked to the organization recently… So this is the plan…. I see
WTF GEREN?!?!?!
He's batting?
I thought he was a pitcher picture.
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
I'm actually really happy Sweeney is done
Now all we have to do is cut Bowers & Gross and i’ll be happy.
Would be nice to trade Sheets and whoever else for a power hitting OF though.
Really wish Beane could spin some magic and magically get the Phils to take Ellis, Sheets & Coco for Werth. We might take the div with that move if no one gets hurt from here on out, huge if, but still:
Dale-Rosy-Penny-Kouz-Zooks-Jackson-Raj-Werth-Cust
BA-TC-GG-VM-DB
looks great to me….
-Yeah, I just posted that, but my opinion is apparently "wrong" a significant portion of the time though, so take it as you will.
I don't really think that's what he's saying.
I like Sweeney, but I kind of don’t mind that he’s done for the year (I don’t want the guy to be in pain or anything). I’ve been wondering whether he should actually be part of the future of the team, and with as bad as his knees have been I don’t think he’s been providing the defense he has in the past.
I’m not sure how valuable he is at this point. Him being done might not be so bad for the A’s.
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by thejd44 on Jul 19, 2010 3:35 PM PDT up reply actions
Wow, what the fuck caused that piece of shit response?
www.zekeishungry.com
by thejd44 on Jul 19, 2010 4:13 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
I didn't realize I accidentally ran over your dog or something.
But I do think two posts of completely pointless, useless “blah” is trolling and flagworthy. Of course, I’m better than people who flag others for such silly things, so I’ll just hope someone else takes care of it.
www.zekeishungry.com
by thejd44 on Jul 19, 2010 4:24 PM PDT up reply actions
Being "above flagging" is what's silly, IMO.
Either flag CGVs or don’t complain about being belittled, insulted, etc.
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
No, I don't care. The reason I said that was because a while ago sirbed flagged me for something completely innocuous
I’m STILL trying to figure out what his big problem is here though.
www.zekeishungry.com
by thejd44 on Jul 19, 2010 4:28 PM PDT up reply actions
uh no you insulted me and not in a joking way
how about we ignore one another….you go be negative I’ll go be stupid..
after this is over you two could get a small place together
"The guy was tasting himself too long to apologize."~Dallas Braden
by OptimistPrime on Jul 19, 2010 4:32 PM PDT up reply actions
I have just the thing in my backyard...
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
Last I saw it we burned it to the ground with Ralph's body inside
"The guy was tasting himself too long to apologize."~Dallas Braden
by OptimistPrime on Jul 19, 2010 4:34 PM PDT up reply actions
For the record, he tastes like chicken.
stanley.
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
Sexy ChickenStanley
Zooey Deschanel!
Cluck 'em all and let the Chick sort 'em out - DMOAS
You're worried that you'll come off as nerdy as fuck? On AN? That’s like being ashamed of your alcohol use at a meth convention. - danmerqury
by ChickenStanley on Jul 19, 2010 6:22 PM PDT up reply actions
I really think you guys should kiss and make up
and I am not kidding. It really ruins the experience for all of us when two intelligent and frequent members of the site go off on each other like this. I am sure a “handshake” and let by gones be by gones and we can get back to civil discussions about our team. Please?
"The guy was tasting himself too long to apologize."~Dallas Braden
by OptimistPrime on Jul 19, 2010 4:36 PM PDT up reply actions
But I'm trying to figure out what I said HERE that was so offensive
I’m really STILL not seeing it. And when I asked, you just repeated the blah blah thing.
Also, I’m not that nice. I’m just better at keeping things to myself in the real world. I’d never fault somebody for disliking me.
www.zekeishungry.com
by thejd44 on Jul 19, 2010 4:46 PM PDT up reply actions
Sirbed:
I have found that when I discover someone on AN whom I don’t get along with, a more effective strategy is to NOT respond to him.
There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, Than are dreamt of in your philosophy.
That's why you don't respond to my comments!
by asyouwish33 on Jul 20, 2010 12:24 AM PDT up reply actions
blah blah blah blah blah
There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, Than are dreamt of in your philosophy.
Dude, I'm with you. I have no problem with sirbed AT ALL.
www.zekeishungry.com
by thejd44 on Jul 19, 2010 4:51 PM PDT up reply actions
but I don't want you to get sent away.
...being a role model I probably wouldn't recommend eating dirt. But at the same time, I'm not trying to be a role model. I'm just trying to eat some dirt.
so flagging doesn't mean masked mods break in, throw you in a van and dump you hogtied
and blindfolded on the side of a desolate road?
...being a role model I probably wouldn't recommend eating dirt. But at the same time, I'm not trying to be a role model. I'm just trying to eat some dirt.
Oh, that is precisely what happens
"The guy was tasting himself too long to apologize."~Dallas Braden
by OptimistPrime on Jul 19, 2010 4:38 PM PDT up reply actions
Not anymore, no.
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
Dont listen to him, he is wearing a mask
and you never trust a man wearing a mask
"The guy was tasting himself too long to apologize."~Dallas Braden
by OptimistPrime on Jul 19, 2010 4:39 PM PDT up reply actions
Case in point: Angel Hernandez
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
Bob Geren wore one for many years.
See the theme here?
"The guy was tasting himself too long to apologize."~Dallas Braden
by OptimistPrime on Jul 19, 2010 4:41 PM PDT up reply actions
pray tell
"The guy was tasting himself too long to apologize."~Dallas Braden
by OptimistPrime on Jul 19, 2010 4:41 PM PDT up reply actions
Don't go anywhere. Despite this personal grudge I don't fully understand, I like having you around.
The flagging comment was me being pissy because of the blah blah blah stuff.
www.zekeishungry.com
by thejd44 on Jul 19, 2010 4:49 PM PDT up reply actions
That's more like it
"The guy was tasting himself too long to apologize."~Dallas Braden
by OptimistPrime on Jul 19, 2010 4:51 PM PDT up reply actions
blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
Please people.
In keeping with our geek/nerd ways, please refrain from saying “blah blah blah blah” and replace it with a charlie brown “wah wah wah wah”.
Thank you
Zooey Deschanel!
Cluck 'em all and let the Chick sort 'em out - DMOAS
You're worried that you'll come off as nerdy as fuck? On AN? That’s like being ashamed of your alcohol use at a meth convention. - danmerqury
by ChickenStanley on Jul 19, 2010 5:02 PM PDT up reply actions
He was already hurt
And like Chavez should have done years ago, he’s now stepping out of the way to get better (what he should be doing) and allowing a healthy player to play. It’s patently ridiculous for him to be playing hurt and he’s been doing that all season long.
Choosy Feebas choose Leopold Bloom nipples
have i mentioned recently that youre on crack?
half those players are hurt and they phillies wouldn’t do that trade.
He's not missing bats and still giving up HRs like they're party favors at Chuck-E-Cheese - mikev
by designatedforassignment on Jul 19, 2010 3:16 PM PDT up reply actions
do you only read like 4 words of my posts or something?
i was clearly just daydreaming and used the words “wish” and “magic”, what in the fuck else do i have to say to get you to not jump down my throat?
-Yeah, I just posted that, but my opinion is apparently "wrong" a significant portion of the time though, so take it as you will.
Hey, the "Axis Of Argument" should not turn on each other.
The three of you (four if PT comes back) gotta stick together. It’s you against the world!
"Burt Reynolds witnessed the conception of his own dad, and frankly, that's what's wrong with him."- TPDMTD!
by Gaijin_Suketto on Jul 19, 2010 3:57 PM PDT up reply actions
who is the third?
He's not missing bats and still giving up HRs like they're party favors at Chuck-E-Cheese - mikev
by designatedforassignment on Jul 19, 2010 4:01 PM PDT up reply actions
thejd44
"Burt Reynolds witnessed the conception of his own dad, and frankly, that's what's wrong with him."- TPDMTD!
by Gaijin_Suketto on Jul 19, 2010 4:03 PM PDT up reply actions
Wait, PL78 and I are in the same club? Don't we...disagree most of the time?
www.zekeishungry.com
by thejd44 on Jul 19, 2010 4:14 PM PDT up reply actions
Your in the same club that disagrees with the populace
Chocolate or Vanilla? Most of AN says Vanilla. PL78 says chocolate. thejd44 says mint chip.
WTF GEREN?!?!?!
This is going to be kinda funny because I'm about to disagree with you over how often I disagree
But I really don’t think my baseball thoughts are that different from a lot of posters here. I certainly don’t get in arguments too often.
I do like generating discussions, and I do sometimes get a little too annoyed over stuff that happens here. Perhaps that comes off as argumentative.
Also, debating is fun.
www.zekeishungry.com
by thejd44 on Jul 19, 2010 4:22 PM PDT up reply actions
I say chocolate, but Im mostly playing devils advocate
There needs to be someone who will think against the grain, we cant all have the same opinion, it would be boring.
I do actually agree with like 80% of whats said, but its good to stand on the other side of the fence and ask “wait, why NOT this?”
-Yeah, I just posted that, but my opinion is apparently "wrong" a significant portion of the time though, so take it as you will.
by PL78 on Jul 19, 2010 4:24 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
I want chocolate/ peanut butter
Zooey Deschanel!
Cluck 'em all and let the Chick sort 'em out - DMOAS
You're worried that you'll come off as nerdy as fuck? On AN? That’s like being ashamed of your alcohol use at a meth convention. - danmerqury
by ChickenStanley on Jul 19, 2010 5:04 PM PDT up reply actions
Even though you piss me off frequently,
you and I are alike in this.
Maybe it’s a theater thing. We like to try out different roles.
There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, Than are dreamt of in your philosophy.
I like Dominatrix Nut Crunch
"Burt Reynolds witnessed the conception of his own dad, and frankly, that's what's wrong with him."- TPDMTD!
by Gaijin_Suketto on Jul 19, 2010 5:03 PM PDT up reply actions
i think its because the three of us argue about how wrong PL78 is
He's not missing bats and still giving up HRs like they're party favors at Chuck-E-Cheese - mikev
by designatedforassignment on Jul 19, 2010 4:17 PM PDT up reply actions
Which is funny
because Im never ever ever ever ever ever ever wrong.*
-Yeah, I just posted that, but my opinion is apparently "wrong" a significant portion of the time though, so take it as you will.
damn that looks just beautiful with my sig.
-Yeah, I just posted that, but my opinion is apparently "wrong" a significant portion of the time though, so take it as you will.
you need a screen shot of that
Zooey Deschanel!
Cluck 'em all and let the Chick sort 'em out - DMOAS
You're worried that you'll come off as nerdy as fuck? On AN? That’s like being ashamed of your alcohol use at a meth convention. - danmerqury
by ChickenStanley on Jul 19, 2010 5:05 PM PDT up reply actions
You guys all like debate and argument.
When I read something from one of you cats that’s overly hyperbolic or aggressive, I take it with a grain of salt and don’t let it get to me.
Other folks may not take it with a grain of salt and get angry, and if they get angry too many times, they pop, and go all LowCountryJoe on you, or all “blah blah blah blah” on you.
"Burt Reynolds witnessed the conception of his own dad, and frankly, that's what's wrong with him."- TPDMTD!
by Gaijin_Suketto on Jul 19, 2010 5:33 PM PDT up reply actions
Fair enough
My only real complaint with this whole silly thing is that there are PLENTY of things I say that would deserve a “blah blah blah.” I really don’t see what’s so horrible with what I said THIS TIME.
I’m actually a little bothered by it. I’m not offended or anything, but I tend to know when I’m going to make somebody angry. This time I had no idea I would strike a nerve.
www.zekeishungry.com
by thejd44 on Jul 19, 2010 6:01 PM PDT up reply actions
H-Rod!
#Athletics place Ryan Sweeney on the disabled list and recall Henry Rodriguez from Sacramento.
Well, if one superstar isn't on the ball with the Twitter train, I'm glad another one is.
by LoneStranger on Jul 19, 2010 3:19 PM PDT up reply actions
That sounds kinda dumb.
If they want Rodriguez up, they should send Bowers or Wolf down.
Then again, if another move is made tomorrow before the game, bringing up Tolleson or Sogard (or Carter), I’ll rescind today’s complaint.
"Burt Reynolds witnessed the conception of his own dad, and frankly, that's what's wrong with him."- TPDMTD!
by Gaijin_Suketto on Jul 19, 2010 3:59 PM PDT up reply actions
Braden will be activated tomorrow
Hopefully, Bowers will be sent down
Call up Carter/Taylor and send down the Matts, please
Wouldn't surprise me...
…if Bowers was DFA’d.
I cannot think of a reason why the A’s would ever want this guy back on the major league club. He’s 32 years old and not exactly a prospect. it’s possible he can resurface somewhere else, but I think he’s done here. Also, it opens the door to a spot on the 40-man roster in case Beane makes some moves next week.
I had completely forgotten Wolf was up
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by thejd44 on Jul 19, 2010 4:14 PM PDT up reply actions
That's because he's in sheep's clothing.
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
So he's been pretending to be Mike Lamb?
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by thejd44 on Jul 19, 2010 4:29 PM PDT up reply actions
That's what ewe think.
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
You people are sick
sick sick sick
Zooey Deschanel!
Cluck 'em all and let the Chick sort 'em out - DMOAS
You're worried that you'll come off as nerdy as fuck? On AN? That’s like being ashamed of your alcohol use at a meth convention. - danmerqury
by ChickenStanley on Jul 19, 2010 5:05 PM PDT up reply actions
I love you
Zooey Deschanel!
Cluck 'em all and let the Chick sort 'em out - DMOAS
You're worried that you'll come off as nerdy as fuck? On AN? That’s like being ashamed of your alcohol use at a meth convention. - danmerqury
by ChickenStanley on Jul 19, 2010 5:14 PM PDT up reply actions
[rubs your bald head]
Zooey Deschanel!
Cluck 'em all and let the Chick sort 'em out - DMOAS
You're worried that you'll come off as nerdy as fuck? On AN? That’s like being ashamed of your alcohol use at a meth convention. - danmerqury
by ChickenStanley on Jul 19, 2010 5:17 PM PDT up reply actions
Hey, I try to say I love you but all you hear is blah blah blah!
www.zekeishungry.com
by thejd44 on Jul 19, 2010 6:02 PM PDT up reply actions
Has to be Rosales now
Right?
God, please no Gross full time
"The guy was tasting himself too long to apologize."~Dallas Braden
OF: Watson, Carson, Powell
Pennington DH, Cust SS.
"Life is a horizontal fall" -Jean Cocteau
by King Richard on Jul 19, 2010 3:29 PM PDT up reply actions
The secret to our success is that lineup
and trade to bring back Crosby while you are at it
"The guy was tasting himself too long to apologize."~Dallas Braden
by OptimistPrime on Jul 19, 2010 3:34 PM PDT up reply actions
David Crosby might be the slugger we need,
as long as we’ve got extra organs in stock. His fail a lot.
"Burt Reynolds witnessed the conception of his own dad, and frankly, that's what's wrong with him."- TPDMTD!
by Gaijin_Suketto on Jul 19, 2010 3:59 PM PDT up reply actions
Per SuSlu
Sweeney eligible to come off the DL July 27. Assuming there isn’t more going on w/ his knees than post-injection soreness.
So he’s not done for the year?
huh
"Life is a horizontal fall" -Jean Cocteau
by King Richard on Jul 19, 2010 3:28 PM PDT up reply actions
He's having surgery.
That might be a old post?
Will Carroll has sources
The surgery news, if it holds up, is not official.
Bring back Hammer.
by OaktownPower on Jul 19, 2010 4:03 PM PDT up reply actions
She just tweeted the surgery
susanslusser
Sweeney out for season. Knee surgery.
Bring back Hammer.
by OaktownPower on Jul 19, 2010 4:05 PM PDT up reply actions
I am signing up
fuck it, I don’t care that it’s just for kids. I want my Coco Crisp coloring book!
"The guy was tasting himself too long to apologize."~Dallas Braden
by OptimistPrime on Jul 19, 2010 3:30 PM PDT up reply actions
I sign up. The yearbook is $10 on it's own, right?
I’m going to buy that anyway. I want the binder in this year’s kit so I can put some baseball cards in it.
by LoneStranger on Jul 19, 2010 3:32 PM PDT up reply actions
Do you want some old A's cards from the 70's and 80's?
I’ll give you some of mine to start/continue your collection.
"Burt Reynolds witnessed the conception of his own dad, and frankly, that's what's wrong with him."- TPDMTD!
by Gaijin_Suketto on Jul 19, 2010 4:00 PM PDT up reply actions
I'd be hella down with that G_S, thanks!
I never really had many cards growing up. Just a few Topps ‘87 cards and some other random ones. Don’t really know where they went. It’s so hard to collect a full set of the packaged ones, so I keep an eye on the full-team sets. Makes it easier to get a card signed when you see random A’s player signing.
by LoneStranger on Jul 19, 2010 4:09 PM PDT up reply actions
send me an email with your mailing address
and I’ll send some off later this week.
"Burt Reynolds witnessed the conception of his own dad, and frankly, that's what's wrong with him."- TPDMTD!
by Gaijin_Suketto on Jul 19, 2010 4:11 PM PDT up reply actions
Sounds like I should sign up!
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You are not already a member???
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by OptimistPrime on Jul 19, 2010 4:28 PM PDT up reply actions
Sorry, OP: Kids only
Psych!
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Curses! Foiled again!
"The guy was tasting himself too long to apologize."~Dallas Braden
by OptimistPrime on Jul 19, 2010 4:51 PM PDT up reply actions
Bummer for Ryan
Hope he recovers and hits 25 bombs next year! A guy can hope.
They could replace his knees with Jesus' knees
and he wouldn’t hit 25 bombs
"The guy was tasting himself too long to apologize."~Dallas Braden
by OptimistPrime on Jul 19, 2010 3:30 PM PDT up reply actions
QOTM
"Oh who am I kidding? The A's and Giants could stage a pillow fight, and I'd still care who wins." -67Marquez
by baseballgirl on Jul 19, 2010 3:40 PM PDT up reply actions
indeed
100% Athletics, 100% Baseball. 2009 Athletics, 40% Baseball.
....
Hope he recovers and hits25 bombs next year200 swingles next year!
Much more likely.
BEER IS GOOD. BEER IS GOOD. BEER IS GOOD, AND STUFF.
much more likely
"The guy was tasting himself too long to apologize."~Dallas Braden
by OptimistPrime on Jul 19, 2010 3:32 PM PDT up reply actions
oof
Ryan Sweeney heading for surgery on his knees, done for the season. Details in tomorrow’s UTK.
BEER IS GOOD. BEER IS GOOD. BEER IS GOOD, AND STUFF.
Best offense until Jackson comes back, in my opinion...
..Cust in right. Big Landon to DH.
I'd prefer the team not put themselves in more situations where the pitcher might have to hit
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by thejd44 on Jul 19, 2010 3:36 PM PDT up reply actions
As embarrassing as those situations were,
they didn’t exactly cost us a game, did they?
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by Gaijin_Suketto on Jul 19, 2010 4:01 PM PDT up reply actions
Not yet, but that doesn't mean it's wise.
And like you said below, Geren did it a little bit too much. It’s more that I don’t trust him with this sort of baseball decision than anything else.
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by thejd44 on Jul 19, 2010 4:15 PM PDT up reply actions
Best offense, maybe,
but if Kurt needs a rest or if something happens mid-game, we’re stuck moving our DH to the field, which means our pitchers would have to bat.
She lives by the wall, and waits by the door.
She walks in the sun, to me.
If Kurt needs a rest that Powell can catch...
…if he gets hurt in game, then Barton catches in an emergency, or you let the pitcher spot hit. It’s not the end of the world for part of one game.
It isn't the end of the world for part of one game,
but Poppin’ Fresh seems to make a habit of it.
"Burt Reynolds witnessed the conception of his own dad, and frankly, that's what's wrong with him."- TPDMTD!
by Gaijin_Suketto on Jul 19, 2010 4:02 PM PDT up reply actions
See, this just doesn't bother me.
I could get hit by lightning on the way to work too, but I don’t roll in a rubberized bubble, either.
"PECOTA can pretty much kiss my ass."-Nico
Barton = Emergency catcher...
…on the freak chance that Suzuki does get hurt in game.
GROSS FTW!!!
Crisp cf, Barton 1b, Suzuki c, Cust dh, Kouzmanoff 3b, Ellis 2b, Gross rf, Davis lf, Pennington ss
I just did some research today and uncovered this tidbit which explains everything
Gabe Gross was Bob Geren’s best man at his wedding.
WE ARE ALL GOING TO DIE!!!!!!1111
"The guy was tasting himself too long to apologize."~Dallas Braden
by OptimistPrime on Jul 19, 2010 3:41 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
So uh... no Rosales, eh?
CT is not going to be happy.
by LoneStranger on Jul 19, 2010 3:41 PM PDT up reply actions
Its not like he has done good recently....
o wait. But its not like hes hitting .283/.336/.429. O wait. But that is not as good as Gross’s .250/.283/.323. o wait.
WTF GEREN?!?!?!
WTF?!!?!?!?!?!?
Who does Adam Rosales have to blow to get regular playing time around here?
Unbelievable!
"By the end of the year, I'll have Dallas throwing right-handed'' -Ben Sheets
My first guess would be Geren
Then Beane. By then word would have spread so he has to do Lew too(he is the top man). Dental Dam FTW!
WTF GEREN?!?!?!
Fuck damnity damn shit
Of course I am going to tonight’s game, so I get to watch more Gross. . .
Fire Bob Geren now.
-Yeah, I just posted that, but my opinion is apparently "wrong" a significant portion of the time though, so take it as you will.
I'll mention that to Billy
When I’m at the Coliseum. . .
Gross plays because it't the safe mover...
Of course this was going to be tonight’s line up, I was just hoping for a bit of creativity.
I never understood the "safe move" argument when the other option isn't particularly radical
Rosales in left has already happened. Wouldn’t the “safe move” be to use the guy who can hit but might not be as good defensively?
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by thejd44 on Jul 19, 2010 4:16 PM PDT up reply actions
Ryan
Please get better soon, you will be missed.
"The guy was tasting himself too long to apologize."~Dallas Braden
GABE GROSS SUCKS AT BASEBALL
GABE GROSS SUCKS AT BASEBALL!!!!!!!
WHY DOES GEREN DO THESE THINGS?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?
AAHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!
That’s better.
"PECOTA can pretty much kiss my ass."-Nico
Gabe Gross' dad knows Kung Fu. Be careful.
Whereas, Bobby Crosby’s dad doesn’t know his a$$ from a hole in the ground.
But Andrew Bailey’s dad is the best. IIRC, his dad posted here a couple of times last year…
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by Gaijin_Suketto on Jul 19, 2010 4:14 PM PDT up reply actions
I'm not afraid.
Kung Fu isn’t effective when you’re constantly swinging and missing, and hitting for very little power when you connect. It’s genetics.
"PECOTA can pretty much kiss my ass."-Nico
PENNY LEADS THE AL IN BATTING AVERAGE THIS MONTH
GROSS IS HITTING .161.
BUT YES BOB, HIT GABE HIGHER AND GIVE HIM MORE CHANCES TO HIT.
-Yeah, I just posted that, but my opinion is apparently "wrong" a significant portion of the time though, so take it as you will.
FIRE BOB GEREN NOW.
-Yeah, I just posted that, but my opinion is apparently "wrong" a significant portion of the time though, so take it as you will.
You are wrong!
Oh wait…got carried away,
I mean, YES! FIRE BOBO GEREN NOW!
Zooey Deschanel!
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by ChickenStanley on Jul 19, 2010 5:08 PM PDT up reply actions
HIM TOO!
Zooey Deschanel!
Cluck 'em all and let the Chick sort 'em out - DMOAS
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by ChickenStanley on Jul 19, 2010 5:14 PM PDT up reply actions
HIRE BILLY MARTIN NOW!
Zooey Deschanel!
Cluck 'em all and let the Chick sort 'em out - DMOAS
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by ChickenStanley on Jul 19, 2010 5:18 PM PDT up reply actions
At least put Carson or Watson in there.
We already know Gross sucks. Carson and Watson probably suck too, but it wouldn’t hurt to find out. There’s absolutely nothing to lose here.
"PECOTA can pretty much kiss my ass."-Nico
Or Rosales in LF, who actually might be pretty good at baseball
and we could find out for sure by playing him everyday from here on out.
-Yeah, I just posted that, but my opinion is apparently "wrong" a significant portion of the time though, so take it as you will.
Anything that involves Gabe Gross not playing is fine with me.
I can see keeping Rosales in his super sub role because he’s so versatile, but jeez, Gabe Gross?
"PECOTA can pretty much kiss my ass."-Nico
He's a lefty. Matsuzaka is a righty.
That’s all that matters – Bob Geren
"We were shit, pathetic," Guillen growled early in spring training. "We hit too many home runs."
by lenscrafters on Jul 19, 2010 4:29 PM PDT up reply actions
goodbye cruel world....
/shoots himself in face
-Yeah, I just posted that, but my opinion is apparently "wrong" a significant portion of the time though, so take it as you will.
Watson's a lefty, too
Cust is as well. Powell’s a FUCKING SWITCH HITTER.
"PECOTA can pretty much kiss my ass."-Nico
Well that's too confusing.
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Whoa, my whole post got cut off.
I had added the vitriol wasn’t directed at you. The notion of Gabe Gross, starting right fielder, is steaming at us like a freight train full of suck, and there’s nothing I can do about it.
"PECOTA can pretty much kiss my ass."-Nico
Gross's WAR is -0.3
which means we will lose more games by playing him over a replacement level player, to which there are 100s sitting around on benches and in the minors.
-Yeah, I just posted that, but my opinion is apparently "wrong" a significant portion of the time though, so take it as you will.
And 2 sitting on our bench --
and that’s only counting guys named Matt!
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Maybe Gross will do really really good the next couple weeks and get traded
The monster at the end of this blog.
"I think we can take this division if we just get Gabe Gross!"
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
Damn! There goes that great outfield Defense we've had all year
(tongue firmly in cheek)
"I was right and you were wrong." - Ray Fosse
You know if Sweeney came back
and started hitting twenty homeruns a season, he’d have a perfectly valid excuse. WInk, wink.
geez another one bites this dust
What did i tell you...didn't I say they would win? Yeah that's right I did didn't ? Wait.. what? They LOST?!?!?
Sweeney and his 0.5 WAR
will not be missed…..unless Gross and his -0.3 WAR replace him full time.
-Yeah, I just posted that, but my opinion is apparently "wrong" a significant portion of the time though, so take it as you will.
Well, he'll be missed if Gross actually is the best possible replacement option
And that’s not necessarily a stretch. Who knows how Rosales could be in the outfield? There’s not a guarantee that the Matts are better, either.
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by thejd44 on Jul 19, 2010 6:04 PM PDT up reply actions
we probably would be less hurt if sweeney had missed time earlier this month
what with Coco hitting well, Raj coming into form and before Gross had dipped into the territory he’s in now but at this point, with Coco slumping, Raj’s horrendous OBP and no Conor Jackson, I think this could really hurt any dim playoff hopes we may still have.
What did i tell you...didn't I say they would win? Yeah that's right I did didn't ? Wait.. what? They LOST?!?!?
Just a little perspective:
Adam Rosales OPS against RHP: .634
Gabe Gross OPS against RHP: .747
by DDroney on Jul 19, 2010 4:38 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
Wait, Rosales actually has a better OPS against RHP for 2010...
My superb research skills strike again!
No he doesn't. He's killing LHPs, though:
.319/.390/.514 (.904 OPS)
His OPS vs. RHPs is .699.
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Beats Gross' .638 this year
Not to mention the .438 in the 36 PAs he’s been inexcusably allowed to have against LHP.
"PECOTA can pretty much kiss my ass."-Nico
Yeah, I meant that Rosales' OPS against RHP > that of Gross, at least as far as 2010 is concerned.
But Gross’ career numbers are better than Rosales’, against RHP.
Yup
Rosales is better at hitting in all situations than Gabe Gross. He needs to be in LF and Gross needs to be nothing more than a late inning sub, as he actually sports a 900+ OPS when used as a late inning guy!
-Yeah, I just posted that, but my opinion is apparently "wrong" a significant portion of the time though, so take it as you will.
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Already reported: OF Ryan Sweeney of #athletics done for year; right knee surgery. NOT reported: Left knee surgery likely to follow.
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by Rated-R Superstar on Jul 19, 2010 4:54 PM PDT reply actions
Woah, this is an uncanny coincidence
Didn’t your grandma also hit about 1 HR / year?
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Maybe the surgeon was having a 2 for 1 deal this week......
"By the end of the year, I'll have Dallas throwing right-handed'' -Ben Sheets
It's actually have 2 knees done
Get the third knee for free.
Choosy Feebas choose Leopold Bloom nipples
Well, I guess this eliminates the rare possibility that they operate on the wrong knee.
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by thejd44 on Jul 19, 2010 6:04 PM PDT up reply actions
And by "rare" you mean half the time.
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JeffFletcherAOL
One of the #tigers top scouts is in Oakland tonight. Ben Sheets?
19 minutes ago via Twittelator
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by Rated-R Superstar on Jul 19, 2010 4:55 PM PDT reply actions
Gabe Gross.
Somebody has to take away at-bats from Austin Jackson.
"PECOTA can pretty much kiss my ass."-Nico
Since Milton Bradley and Ryan Sweeney have been two of our more recent right fielders
I’m going to say yes.
"PECOTA can pretty much kiss my ass."-Nico
Travis Buck, too.
But I don’t think being dead technically counts as a disability.
"PECOTA can pretty much kiss my ass."-Nico
susanslusser
#Athletics official medical information: Sweeney to have surgery for right patella tendinitis for sure with left knee still to be examined
less than a minute ago via Twittelator
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by Rated-R Superstar on Jul 19, 2010 5:08 PM PDT reply actions
Huh
HIs left knee was to be examined less than a minute ago by Twittelator? Are the Andrewses and Yocums of the world now adopting Brazilian soccer-style names for themselves?
"PECOTA can pretty much kiss my ass."-Nico
HIs left knee was to be examined less than a minute ago by Twittelator?
Nah, the break indicates that “less than a minute ago via Twittelator” is unrelated to his left knee being examined.
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by Rated-R Superstar on Jul 19, 2010 5:29 PM PDT up reply actions
I haven't seen this in a while
"Their batters are patient to the point that it's annoying." -Ryan Franklin
by Helloooo 1st on Jul 19, 2010 5:31 PM PDT up reply actions
That should go into the AN library
Zooey Deschanel!
Cluck 'em all and let the Chick sort 'em out - DMOAS
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by ChickenStanley on Jul 19, 2010 6:24 PM PDT up reply actions
THERE'S A BREAK, TOO????
{spreads rumor throughout interweb}
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BrettAnderson49
I despise flying into Denver.
half a minute ago via Echofon
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by Rated-R Superstar on Jul 19, 2010 5:12 PM PDT reply actions
is that really Brett Anderson of the Oakland Athletics?
I get confused because I thought there was a fake BrettAnderson twitter account.
You have to include smiley faces - Poppy
;- ) :- ) :-O : -> : -] : -}
That's really him, but people here have taken his boring/bad tweets and made a game of doing fake Anderson tweets
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by thejd44 on Jul 19, 2010 6:12 PM PDT up reply actions
I should say that I presume that's a real tweet and RRS wasn't just having some fun
But the account is real, I’m almost certain.
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by thejd44 on Jul 19, 2010 6:13 PM PDT up reply actions
half a minute?
seriously, RRS?
The funny thing about baseball is that people will believe what they want to believe. -Joe Posnanski 8/29/09
some of my more bumpier moments outside of southeast alaska
have been descending into denver. (grab sick bag)
alaska A residing in northern Idaho.
Want me to hold your hair?
Zooey Deschanel!
Cluck 'em all and let the Chick sort 'em out - DMOAS
You're worried that you'll come off as nerdy as fuck? On AN? That’s like being ashamed of your alcohol use at a meth convention. - danmerqury
by ChickenStanley on Jul 19, 2010 5:16 PM PDT up reply actions
some of mine have been chatting with you
{use sick bag}
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
Brett needs to fix this
I despise flyinginto Denver.
Much better.
BEER IS GOOD. BEER IS GOOD. BEER IS GOOD, AND STUFF.
That's not something you do twice.
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
No, I think the Monkey got it right.
“That’s not something you do twice.” = TWSS
“That’s not something I do twice.” = TWHS
There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, Than are dreamt of in your philosophy.
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My co-worker, Carl Steward, has the details on Ryan Sweeney’s decision to have season-ending knee surgery. http://bit.ly/9O6Tyg, #athletics
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by Rated-R Superstar on Jul 19, 2010 5:17 PM PDT reply actions
Carl is the dad on Family Matters.
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by Rated-R Superstar on Jul 19, 2010 5:29 PM PDT up reply actions
Carl’s Jr. have fancy burgers.
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by Rated-R Superstar on Jul 19, 2010 5:33 PM PDT up reply actions
Ken Griffey, Jr. is cool.
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by Rated-R Superstar on Jul 19, 2010 5:43 PM PDT up reply actions
Michael Phelps likes his ganga
Zooey Deschanel!
Cluck 'em all and let the Chick sort 'em out - DMOAS
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by ChickenStanley on Jul 19, 2010 6:26 PM PDT up reply actions
hi. i made you this mnemonic: you can’t roll a jay without ganja.
really don't care if i ever get back.
by AV on Jul 19, 2010 6:38 PM PDT up reply actions
Woah -- sirbed works with the guy from Family Matters?
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I'll have to suspender my disbelief.
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
Some MLB updates...
- TEX and DET 5-5 in the 5th, Scott Feldman getting hit hard again.
- Carlos Silva leaves after 1+ allowing 7 hits and 5 ER (5-0 HOU over CHI). Suddenly, Silva’s ERA is up to 3.86.
- Tampa Bay puts up a touchdown in the 3rd and leads Baltimore 8-0.
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Aw, I just picked up Carlos Silva on my fantasy team.
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by Rated-R Superstar on Jul 19, 2010 5:43 PM PDT up reply actions
That’s brutal.
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by Rated-R Superstar on Jul 19, 2010 5:50 PM PDT up reply actions
Next year I'm going to hire you to be my GM....I always end up in 3rd place
won in football and basketball this year though
I picked up Zito just in time for his last start
and don’t fret yet, Wandy Rodriguez wasn’t exactly setting the cubs down, maybe they can come back and avoid Silva the loss.
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;- ) :- ) :-O : -> : -] : -}
How is Zito even available?
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by Rated-R Superstar on Jul 19, 2010 6:38 PM PDT up reply actions
only six teams in the league
it is a small yahoo group that somebody on AN did a few years ago. And the commisioner allows for unlimited rosters moves and constantly is changing his roster.
You have to include smiley faces - Poppy
;- ) :- ) :-O : -> : -] : -}
Taylor please
Geren says Gross in right with Watson also available, and Jackson back at some point, Buck at Triple-A. No mention of Taylor.
if sheets ISNT traded...
what are we going to do when BA comes back in a week? sending mazzaro down would be insanely idiotic. BA to pitch relief for a bit?
probably getting ahead of myself. im sure somebody else will get injured within the week.
Nippert hit in head with line drive
Appears OK
It went for a double
His head?
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
Yeah
LOL
He is lucky he walked off field. Side of head near the temple as far as I could tell.
Went down left field line for double
It hit him near the temple?
I didn’t even know he was Jewish.
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If he'd been Muslin he would have been in the kneeling position
and avoided being hit
well played, sir monkey
There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, Than are dreamt of in your philosophy.
especially the baldness
Zooey Deschanel!
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by ChickenStanley on Jul 19, 2010 6:27 PM PDT up reply actions
Nelson Cruz hits DP ball and it gets to SS and bounces over his head
The pitcher then gets another DP ball and gets out of inning 6-5 Texas
JaneMLB
Anderson still slated to go for Triple-A Sac in Colorado tomorrow. Geren said it’s “a possibility he might need another [rehab start].”
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by Rated-R Superstar on Jul 19, 2010 6:26 PM PDT reply actions
They tried to make me go to rehab. I said no, no, no.
Zooey Deschanel!
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by ChickenStanley on Jul 19, 2010 6:28 PM PDT up reply actions
I was like, "Why? I don't have a problem."
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PRE Game Thread is UP and (no) ADAM
Hello, I'm Vince Cotroneo for the Marmaduke B. Mushmouth School of Public Speaking...
JaneMLB
Travis Buck has officially joined Triple-A Sacramento. He’s starting in right, batting second, for the River Cats tonight. #Athletics
half a minute ago via web
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by Rated-R Superstar on Jul 19, 2010 6:39 PM PDT reply actions
Hahah, Yeah right,
The funny thing about baseball is that people will believe what they want to believe. -Joe Posnanski 8/29/09
Peep the open thread.
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