Do Batters Control Where And How They Hit The Ball?
Yes and no. Tune in next week when we'll be answering...Oh you wanted a little more detail? OK we can do that.
When I see the blanket statement, "Batters have little to no control over batted balls," I tend to have a conniption fit. If you've ever had a conniption fit, you should be grateful that your conniption wasn't a size too loose. What I aim to offer here is a primer on when and how a batter can, and cannot, control where and how they hit the ball.
The first good basic rule of thumb is that batters can control the macro level better than they can control the micro level. When you see an identically sharp one-hopper to 1B, sharp one-hopper to 2B, and sharp one-hopper through into RF, those batted balls are pretty much identical process, with different outcomes.
Batters can not aim for the hole while reacting to pitches of different velocities, breaks, locations, and movement; they can just try to hit balls hard enough that they are more likely to escape the range of the fielders. So whether a ground ball hit with a given force, or a fly ball hit with a certain trajectory, is an "at 'em ball" or a "tweener" is often nothing more than chance.
However on the more general, or macro, level -- "pull the ball," "get it in the air," etc. batters can often exercise quite a bit of control and here's how:
Pitch type/location: A LH batter wanting to pull a ground ball can look for a pitch they are more likely to be able to pull on the ground, such as a pitch on the inner half of the plate or an offspeed pitch (that will cause them naturally to get the bat head out early). RH batters seeing a right-side hole can sit "fastball away" while in sac fly situations batters generally want to jump on pitches above the belt.
Quieter swing: Mark Ellis is a beautiful example of bat control. Several times this season, with a runner at 2B and nobody out, with two strikes on him and the goal just to make sure he advances the runner Ellis has very intentionally chopped a bouncer to the right side. He does it by quieting the movement in his swing (mostly just arms, less body), delaying bringing the bat head through the zone just a split second longer, and playing pepper with the right side of the diamond. This is a great "hit and run" technique, where an ordinary grounder has a good chance of becoming a "first-to-third single" even if it isn't hit especially hard.
Swing type: With two strikes, some hitters will choke up on the bat or shorten their swing, sacrificing power for contact and bat control, which increases the odds they can make solid (line drive) contact but brings the fences in 50 feet -- it basically turns hitters into Ryan Sweeney. It's no surprise that Jack Cust, whose swing is relatively big and long, has little bat control -- these guys are great to shift against because they cannot really adjust intentionally. In contrast, if Cliff Pennington or Gabe Gross were hitting into the Cust shift, they could easily find the gaping left side hole by waiting for a pitch away and putting a quick short "opposite field" swing on it.
There are many other categories and examples you can add, and I'd welcome you to add them in the comments. My main point is that while batters have little control over "a few feet here" or "looping liner to LF" vs. "slightly more arcing liner to left-center," as you zoom out to slightly more general parts of the field and types of balls hit, batters can exert quite a bit of control -- just as pitchers have weapons (sides of the plate, jamming swings, changing speeds) to combat these efforts. It creates a cat-and-mouse game of adjustments that is one of baseball's intricate joys.
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I don't know the answer.
But I just used SSS as a counter-argument in a different thread, and I feel dirty all over.
Ban me Nico, for I have sinned.
I'm here to talk about the past.
I love Ichiro
because I feel he is maybe one of the few players going who can purposely do this with the most success.
Back to the original point, it is a great hitter who can adjust his swing to suit the style of pitcher he is facing to get a marco-level result. Josh Hamilton is another excellent example.
-Yeah, I just posted that, but my opinion is apparently "wrong" a significant portion of the time though, so take it as you will.
I'd say hitters definitely have more of an ability to control where the ball is hit than pitchers do
Hitters are the ones that choose when to swing or not, after all, and the better hitters absolutely can influence where they want it to go in a given situation. Not all the time because they still fail at times, but it’s not hard to figure out who the good ones are and who stinks at it.
Pitchers can better influence whether a ball’s hit in the air or on the ground, at least.
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it is a yes and no question
To break it down it is up to where the pitch is and what type of a pitch. Some batters are good at fouling off pitches to get a good pitch. Otheres just swing away. Power hitters have less control since they are more of a guess type hitter.
A good example is Cust. If the team is pitching against Cust with the shift on. They will piotch him inside. Now a fast ball you have less control to aim the bat since reaction time is so much quicker. A breaking ball or curve you can adjust the ball which side of the infield. Hit the ball late and off the end of the bat will push the ball to the opposite field. Same as a inside pitch will more likely push the ball off the bat to the same side of the field the batter is swinging from.
Do you really think that Cust *can't* adjust to the shift?
My perception is that the sluggers who get the shift put on them have this macho indignant attitude of “I’m here to hit bombs, not hit dribblers down the third base line.” So they go up there and make with the power swing pull hack.
"I've made a huge little mistake." - G.O.B.
I've always wondered why batters can't go the other way against the shift.
If you hit the slowest dribbler anywhere left of shortstop, you’ve got yourself a hit. Hell, even a bunt would do. Then the defense would be forced to not shift, and you can go back to your power hitting ways. Maybe it’s just harder than I thought.
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I think for hitters with swings like Cust's
it IS harder because their swing is designed for force, not control. Cust doesn’t guide the ball at all with his swing; he just unleashes. The only way he could hit left side grounders, IMO — and he could learn this — is to keep his feet/body more anchored and drive with his arms so he’d naturally be dragging the bat to face LF at the point of contact. He wouldn’t be guiding it to the left side on purpose, but it would happen naturally.
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How do you know he can learn this without screwing up his swing/approach in other ways?
How do you know he hasn’t tried and failed beforehand?
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by lenscrafters on Jul 10, 2010 2:04 PM PDT up reply actions
I don't.
Welcome to the interweb of opinions and speculations.
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I’ll tell you, though, it just seems so counter-intuitive to me that you couldn’t have a situational swing. Like, “Alright, I’m not going to swing from the heels so hard that I end up on my ass looking at the foul ball netting.”
"I've made a huge little mistake." - G.O.B.
I'd love to see people like Cust and Ortiz drop bunts down the 3B line when the shift is on.
They’d stop doing it eventually I’m sure.
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