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A's Survive Late O's Rally, Don't Turn Soggy In Milk

Coco Crisp has been a lightning rod since coming off of the DL, and he continued his hot start by coming a HR short of the cycle for the second time in less than a week.

Vin Mazzaro had about an hour to prepare for his start tonight, as Dallas Braden was scratched due to a flare up of his elbow tendinitis. I'm not sure if the short notice hurt Vin's performance to night, but he was far from sharp. Yes, he held the Orioles to three hits and one run over six innings, but I'm not a big fan of the six walks. When you walk Julio Lugo twice and hit him in the shoulder blade, you shouldn't really walk out of the game with one run to your name. A stronger team would have forced Vin out of the game about an hour before his actual exit, but hey, I'll take it.

Brian Matusz pitched better, but not by much. Thankfully, the A's were able to translate their baserunners into runs, or at least they did a better job of it than Baltimore did. In the bottom of the 8th, the Nick Markakis and Luke Scott both his doubles, and Matt Wieters had a fantastic nine pitch at bat, ending in a walk. Fortunately, the O's sandwiched those big hits around outs, and the A's escaped allowing one run. Coco Crisp hit a big double immediately after and came around to score, which ended up being more than enough to close out the win.

The surging A's send Ben Sheets on the mound to face Kevin Millwood tomorrow at 4:05 PM.


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Athletics lead the series 1-0

Tue 06/29 4 - 2 win

Oakland Athletics
@ Baltimore Orioles

Wednesday, Jun 30, 2010, 4:05 PM PDT
Oriole Park at Camden Yards

Ben Sheets vs Kevin Millwood

Clear. Winds blowing in from left field at 10-15 m.p.h. Game time temperature around 80.

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Orioles are better than the Pirates (not saying much)

 A’s need to win every game possible this weekend against two of the weaker teams in MLB 2010

by OaklandSi on Jun 29, 2010 7:25 PM PDT reply actions  

and they are all possible.

alaska A residing in northern Idaho.

by ak_A on Jun 29, 2010 9:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

Just pitch around Carlos Santana this weekend

He scares me…

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by stranahanahan on Jun 29, 2010 9:50 PM PDT up reply actions  

Wins are good

BEER IS GOOD. BEER IS GOOD. BEER IS GOOD, AND STUFF.

by doctorK on Jun 29, 2010 7:25 PM PDT reply actions  

Whooooo, wins I wasn't around to see!

Whoooooo, new Futurama!

Whoooooo in general!

"I've made a huge little mistake." - G.O.B.

by Joey C. on Jun 29, 2010 7:29 PM PDT reply actions  

Good News Everyone indeed. And Woo.

@MAD_Marvin
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by Hit4TheCycle on Jun 29, 2010 7:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yay wins! Maybe yay Futurama- got it tivo'd, heard it wasn't as good as past episodes. Yay if the yahoo who said that is wrong!

...being a role model I probably wouldn't recommend eating dirt. But at the same time, I'm not trying to be a role model. I'm just trying to eat some dirt.

by attijah on Jun 29, 2010 7:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

They were better than the movies, which is a great sign.

Liked them both, but the first one was pretty awesome all round.

She lives by the wall, and waits by the door.
She walks in the sun, to me.

by danmerqury on Jun 29, 2010 7:50 PM PDT up reply actions  

My thoughts exactly

"I've made a huge little mistake." - G.O.B.

by Joey C. on Jun 29, 2010 8:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

And seeing Zapp at the very end say "wheeee!"

made my night.

She lives by the wall, and waits by the door.
She walks in the sun, to me.

by danmerqury on Jun 29, 2010 8:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

We disagree on Futurama too...

"You see, in this world there's two kinds of people, my friend: Those with loaded guns and those who dig. You dig."

by OldhamA on Jun 30, 2010 2:43 AM PDT up reply actions  

Didn't like the new ones?

She lives by the wall, and waits by the door.
She walks in the sun, to me.

by danmerqury on Jun 30, 2010 11:30 AM PDT up reply actions  

Never really liked the show at all.

I used to like The Simpsons, but that’s terrible too now.

"You see, in this world there's two kinds of people, my friend: Those with loaded guns and those who dig. You dig."

by OldhamA on Jun 30, 2010 12:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

She lives by the wall, and waits by the door.
She walks in the sun, to me.

by danmerqury on Jun 30, 2010 12:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

Heh. Yeah, actually.

No, I was more amazed that he never really liked Futurama. The Simpsons is pretty bad now.

She lives by the wall, and waits by the door.
She walks in the sun, to me.

by danmerqury on Jun 30, 2010 2:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

I have a potentially stupid roster move question.

If Zambrano suddenly becomes free (which looks more and more probable)…Do the A’s jump on it hoping that a very decent established starting pitcher can wake up, get his head out of his ass and help the A’s and their beat up rotation? Or do they go for feild players and bigger bats? Or dont go for anything at all?

by gatorempire127 on Jun 29, 2010 7:31 PM PDT reply actions  

No, pass on Zambrano

He may be established, but he’s been nothing short of pretty bad this year…

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by stranahanahan on Jun 29, 2010 7:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

granted and noted.

so what do we do about this rotation that is lacking arguably 2 of our best pitchers? call up one of the prospects or go after someone before the dealine?

by gatorempire127 on Jun 29, 2010 7:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

I wouldn't mind trading for starter or signing a #5/spot starter like Tomko again,

But which you do depends on if you think this team has any chance to still be competitive this year.
If you think the A’s could still potentially win the West this year, as I do, I think you make a play for a Millwood or a better available pitcher sometime right after the All Star break. If you think the A’s don’t stand a chance you don’t waste any prospects and hope someone like Wright or Tomko or Giese can come up from AAA and hope they don’t look absolutely terrible.

And after looking at Zambrano’s numbers this year, he’s actually been pretty unlucky and his numbers are generally in line with previous performance. Still, I just don’t think a guy like him is worth the risk right now, with the possibility of him being an attitude liability or dogging it the rest of the way. There will be other guys out there…

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by stranahanahan on Jun 29, 2010 9:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

John Halama.

If we’re going to bring in a mediocre old vet, he’s my choice.

There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, Than are dreamt of in your philosophy.

by iglew on Jun 29, 2010 9:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

Mark Redman is interested

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by ohtobe21likehuston on Jun 29, 2010 9:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

That was an interesting experience

I’ll never forget when Crosby made an error with Redman on the mound. After the play Redman glared at him which was totally classless. That was one time that I was actually in the Crosby corner along with Ed.

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by ohtobe21likehuston on Jun 29, 2010 9:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

haha

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by stranahanahan on Jun 29, 2010 9:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

I believe he has a 7.71 ERA in the AZL.

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by Rated-R Superstar on Jun 29, 2010 10:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

how many appearances?

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by stranahanahan on Jun 29, 2010 10:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

I don’t know. I heard it from Townsend.

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by Rated-R Superstar on Jun 29, 2010 10:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

Z is fond of batting.

I don’t know that he’ll willingly step over to the AL.

"With Chance on first, and Evers on third,
Great things from the Cubs will soon be heard."

by LeSaboteur on Jun 29, 2010 7:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

Who needs a DH?

Oh wait, I think we do….

There's no crying in baseball!

by gigglingone on Jun 29, 2010 9:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

Do you have to use the DH?

This may be a dumb question, but if you chose to, could you hit with your pitcher?

AN: Where you will be an A's fan or Dallas Braden will show you the repercussions of your actions.

by stranahanahan on Jun 29, 2010 9:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

Pretty sure you can opt out if you want.

It’d be kinda dumb for damn near every instance, but it can be done.

She lives by the wall, and waits by the door.
She walks in the sun, to me.

by danmerqury on Jun 29, 2010 9:49 PM PDT up reply actions  

Hell, Larussa bats the pitcher 8th

And he’s a solid manager.
You tell Geren something would be dumb in “damn near every instance” he’ll still try it!

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by stranahanahan on Jun 29, 2010 9:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

Well, that's to get the double leadoff thing between 9th and 1st.

And it’s not a bad strategy. But purposefully forgoing a DH to let the pitcher bat? Not so much.

She lives by the wall, and waits by the door.
She walks in the sun, to me.

by danmerqury on Jun 29, 2010 9:53 PM PDT up reply actions  

Honestly,

I’d prefer to let Micah Owings bat than Eric Patterson, if that choice ever came up. I think at the beginning of this year, had the A’s had Owings, he would have been a better option to hit than Chavez/Fox/Patterson.

by el generico on Jun 29, 2010 10:50 PM PDT up reply actions  

Trade chavez for zambrano

In order to offset the cost. He has experience starting and in the bullpen.

by gambler on Jun 30, 2010 7:51 AM PDT via mobile up reply actions  

I ♥ wins.

Also, it took me just a bit too long to understand the headline. I’m slow.

by whiteshoes40 on Jun 29, 2010 7:31 PM PDT reply actions  

welcome to my world. :)

...being a role model I probably wouldn't recommend eating dirt. But at the same time, I'm not trying to be a role model. I'm just trying to eat some dirt.

by attijah on Jun 29, 2010 7:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

well, except today, thanks to Monster Energy Drink I am fast, fast, fast.

...being a role model I probably wouldn't recommend eating dirt. But at the same time, I'm not trying to be a role model. I'm just trying to eat some dirt.

by attijah on Jun 29, 2010 7:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

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by mikev on Jun 29, 2010 8:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

UNLEASH THE BEAST!

...being a role model I probably wouldn't recommend eating dirt. But at the same time, I'm not trying to be a role model. I'm just trying to eat some dirt.

by attijah on Jun 29, 2010 8:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

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by mikev on Jun 29, 2010 8:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

unghh.

...being a role model I probably wouldn't recommend eating dirt. But at the same time, I'm not trying to be a role model. I'm just trying to eat some dirt.

by attijah on Jun 29, 2010 8:31 PM PDT up reply actions  

You have to be careful.

The Ultimate Opportunist

by Rated-R Superstar on Jun 29, 2010 8:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

about energy drinks or unghhs?

...being a role model I probably wouldn't recommend eating dirt. But at the same time, I'm not trying to be a role model. I'm just trying to eat some dirt.

by attijah on Jun 29, 2010 8:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

“That’s what she said.”

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by Rated-R Superstar on Jun 29, 2010 9:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

Rastah Monstah!

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by ohtobe21likehuston on Jun 29, 2010 9:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

LOVE How to make it in America.

Ben, Cam, Kappo, and Dom are the coolest characters ever on tv. And I’m right around FIT so its cool that they film around there.

What you fail to understand in your joyless myopia is that baseball is the key to life-- the Rosetta Stone, if you will. If you just understood baseball better all your other questions your, your... the, uh... the aliens, the conspiracies they would all, in their way be answered by the baseball gods.

by winchester5 on Jun 30, 2010 12:01 AM PDT up reply actions  

Crrrissssp!

Did you see that catch by Crisp? Did that guy visit the Fountain of Youth while he was on the disabled list? Let’s go for 5 tomorrow—-Sheets has been a disappointment, but I’m willing to give him some Tough Love if he gets a win. Go A’s!

"It's a cookbook!"---The Twilight Zone

by Buck18 on Jun 29, 2010 7:41 PM PDT reply actions  

Winz! Winz!

5-more please! Awesome day for Coco and Kurt!

"With Chance on first, and Evers on third,
Great things from the Cubs will soon be heard."

by LeSaboteur on Jun 29, 2010 7:42 PM PDT reply actions  

Especially Kurt, ripping that

bouncer down the 3B line, the one-hop bloop to 1B, and the chopper between 3rd and SS!

I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal

by Nico on Jun 29, 2010 7:49 PM PDT up reply actions  

Ugly as sin...

…but we’ll take it.

"With Chance on first, and Evers on third,
Great things from the Cubs will soon be heard."

by LeSaboteur on Jun 29, 2010 7:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

Is it just me, or is Kurt not running very well right now?

That first ball to Tejada where he threw it on 2 hops to first, I felt like he should have beaten the throw regardless of if it was on line or not…

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by stranahanahan on Jun 29, 2010 9:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah, but he runs fairly well for a Catcher

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by stranahanahan on Jun 29, 2010 9:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

Used to. He's running way slower

Maybe catching 140 games/year doesn’t agree with his legs?

I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal

by Nico on Jun 29, 2010 10:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

hey we could always...

…trade him for Kendall who can play leadoff and steal.

by Shed on Jun 29, 2010 10:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

Don't we have a pretty good backup on the bench that hasn't seen the light of day for weeks.

Landon……something. Good player.

"You see, in this world there's two kinds of people, my friend: Those with loaded guns and those who dig. You dig."

by OldhamA on Jun 30, 2010 2:46 AM PDT up reply actions  

Landon Donavan?

I think he’s friends with Jeremy Belvins.

by el generico on Jun 30, 2010 9:11 AM PDT up reply actions  

I spent the last third of the game cleaning up my leacking fridge

does anybody know how fix stupid ice makers that won’t turn off and keep sending water into the freezer?

by MobiusKlein on Jun 29, 2010 7:50 PM PDT reply actions  

Disconnect the water line

The monster at the end of this blog.

by grover on Jun 29, 2010 7:55 PM PDT up reply actions  

Can't

it’s behind drywall in what used to be the basement.

Unless I go for the whole house…

by MobiusKlein on Jun 29, 2010 7:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

So if the fridge needs replacing....

….you’ll have to tear down a wall?

There is no "i" in Teamocil. At least not where you'd think.

by GreenNGoldSooner on Jun 29, 2010 10:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

Since, my friend, you have revealed your

Deepest fear,
I sentence you to be exposed before
Your peers.
Tear down the wall!

by LoneStranger on Jun 29, 2010 10:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

omg- you're the worm!

...being a role model I probably wouldn't recommend eating dirt. But at the same time, I'm not trying to be a role model. I'm just trying to eat some dirt.

by attijah on Jun 29, 2010 10:53 PM PDT up reply actions  

nope

more like a ceiling.

Actually, when we got the fridge years ago, they put a tap into a water pipe in the basement, ran some copper tubing up to the ice maker. Now that the solenoid is busted, valve in it won’t close, so it’s leaking.

There is a place I can screw in a different tube,but I don’t know where a 24 hour hardware store is.

by MobiusKlein on Jun 29, 2010 11:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

It seems with all the prevalent use of methamphetamine,

a 24-hour hardware store would be a no-brainer.

sock puppets have never successfully defended castles, except when working with squirrels, which would never happen because squirrels know better than to trust sock puppets. -nm

by Leopold Bloom on Jun 29, 2010 11:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

home depot

I think a lot of them are 24 h

"The ego, the super-ego, and the Ed" - dannycakes

by Future Ed on Jun 29, 2010 11:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

huh.

I suppose I am wrong then.

I just looked. It looks like in the late 90s they had “hundreds” but by 2001, they had reduced it to under 40.

Prolly none now.

"The ego, the super-ego, and the Ed" - dannycakes

by Future Ed on Jun 29, 2010 11:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

maybe meth use is in decline.

sock puppets have never successfully defended castles, except when working with squirrels, which would never happen because squirrels know better than to trust sock puppets. -nm

by Leopold Bloom on Jun 29, 2010 11:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

We’re watching a meth video in my health class on Thursday.

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by Rated-R Superstar on Jun 29, 2010 11:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

"how to"?

Are you going to a charter school?

"The ego, the super-ego, and the Ed" - dannycakes

by Future Ed on Jun 29, 2010 11:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

I don’t know the title of the movie, but I am at a JC right now.

The Ultimate Opportunist

by Rated-R Superstar on Jun 30, 2010 12:14 AM PDT up reply actions  

really?

tweekers paradise.

sock puppets have never successfully defended castles, except when working with squirrels, which would never happen because squirrels know better than to trust sock puppets. -nm

by Leopold Bloom on Jun 29, 2010 11:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

It was just an energy drink!!

...being a role model I probably wouldn't recommend eating dirt. But at the same time, I'm not trying to be a role model. I'm just trying to eat some dirt.

by attijah on Jun 29, 2010 11:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

sure sure.

sock puppets have never successfully defended castles, except when working with squirrels, which would never happen because squirrels know better than to trust sock puppets. -nm

by Leopold Bloom on Jun 29, 2010 11:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

I sent you a cautious email.

...being a role model I probably wouldn't recommend eating dirt. But at the same time, I'm not trying to be a role model. I'm just trying to eat some dirt.

by attijah on Jun 29, 2010 11:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

it was hiding in my spam folder!

sock puppets have never successfully defended castles, except when working with squirrels, which would never happen because squirrels know better than to trust sock puppets. -nm

by Leopold Bloom on Jun 29, 2010 11:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

my name is spam!

...being a role model I probably wouldn't recommend eating dirt. But at the same time, I'm not trying to be a role model. I'm just trying to eat some dirt.

by attijah on Jun 29, 2010 11:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

no relation to Pam.

...being a role model I probably wouldn't recommend eating dirt. But at the same time, I'm not trying to be a role model. I'm just trying to eat some dirt.

by attijah on Jun 29, 2010 11:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

No clue, but I googled and found this: http://www.popularmechanics.com/home/improvement/electrical-plumbing/1276061

It should help you turn off the ice maker valve.

...being a role model I probably wouldn't recommend eating dirt. But at the same time, I'm not trying to be a role model. I'm just trying to eat some dirt.

by attijah on Jun 29, 2010 7:56 PM PDT up reply actions  

nice!

thanks for the google assist.

by MobiusKlein on Jun 29, 2010 7:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

yw, hope it helps you.

...being a role model I probably wouldn't recommend eating dirt. But at the same time, I'm not trying to be a role model. I'm just trying to eat some dirt.

by attijah on Jun 29, 2010 8:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

Dear Coco Crisp,

Please keep slugging .759 forever and ever (while with the A’s).

www.zekeishungry.com

by thejd44 on Jun 29, 2010 8:05 PM PDT reply actions  

I’ll settle for .459 if I have to.

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by Rated-R Superstar on Jun 29, 2010 8:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

Thank Gawd That the Rangers are Finally playing in Anaheim:

It makes a six game set with the Orioles and Indians look MUCH better!!!

It is all about coming together as a team. At the end of the day, the team is all we have. - T. Branch 10-14-09

by Raymond St. Martin (Saint) on Jun 29, 2010 8:28 PM PDT reply actions  

Words on Injuries

We all know you can’t predict injuries. We also know the A’s have been setting records for injuries the last four years. We also know the Moneyball theory of doing something different before everyone else realizes it works.

So, any correlation with the Moneyball theory and the inability of anyone to stay healthy? Is it possible we can fire the entire medical staff because their forward thinking doesn’t work, and replace them with high school kids, and be better off?

I’m hard pressed to think of one A’s player over the last four years who has been completely healthy, and although it is rare in baseball terms, it is not zero percent rare.

by Thefirstletterofthealphabet on Jun 29, 2010 9:25 PM PDT reply actions  

I don't think there's any correlation to Moneyball and injuries,

especially considering that the Moneyball strategy isn’t really being used by Oakland anymore.
I do agree there needs to be a shakeup with the medical staff, because I do think they need to be held accountable at this point…

AN: Where you will be an A's fan or Dallas Braden will show you the repercussions of your actions.

by stranahanahan on Jun 29, 2010 9:28 PM PDT up reply actions  

But...

I thought the Moneyball strategy was the entire reason of building a team around speed and defense, because it is undervalued in today’s market. Also, that ignorance they pull every time a player is at second with no one out and Barton at the plate. That is a new concept as well, no?

My point being the medical staff could also be operating on an entirely new concept. That is how the A’s compete.

by Thefirstletterofthealphabet on Jun 29, 2010 9:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

I am less worried about bunting when the runner is on 2nd

in late innings because it still gives you two shots to score on a base hit. I know it’s not popular with many AN’ers but I’m not too concerned. If the runner is on 1st than I hate bunting with no outs even if it could eliminate/reduce a double play.

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by ohtobe21likehuston on Jun 29, 2010 9:37 PM PDT up reply actions  

I watch most A's games

And it always happens in the first inning. They must be thinking a decent staff with an anemic offense means they need a 1-0 lead. Can’t fault the logic, but, it’s new, thus my correlation to how the medical staff could be operating under “new” strategies that might not work.

by Thefirstletterofthealphabet on Jun 29, 2010 9:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

But you're giving up an out from one of your best hitters

And almost every single time Barton has bunted, it reduced the run expectancy in that inning by around .20

AN: Where you will be an A's fan or Dallas Braden will show you the repercussions of your actions.

by stranahanahan on Jun 29, 2010 9:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

Ok, I see what you mean

-First of all, Barton bunting is something he does on his own, and it’s actually proven to diminish run expectancy in that particular inning.

I mean, I understand what you’re saying about the speed and defense being the “New Moneyball”, and it wouldn’t surprise me if there is a correlation between speed/defensive minded players and injuries. If you think about it, those are the types of players who truly play 100% every play, and as a result, are already risking the possibility of injury more than a guy who dogs it to first, or jogs to a ball hit in the gap (yeah, I’m looking at you BJ Upton). That may sound like a ridiculous theory, but it makes sense to me…

AN: Where you will be an A's fan or Dallas Braden will show you the repercussions of your actions.

by stranahanahan on Jun 29, 2010 9:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

Not sure I agree

Is Barton really doing that on his own. Why not just pull the ball, which he obviously can do, and possibly get an RBI with a base hit.

As for the speedsters being less of an injury risk, I disagree more. Ever see a 200 lb chick pull a hamstring running down the line during a kickball game?

by Thefirstletterofthealphabet on Jun 29, 2010 9:49 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yes, Barton is absolutely doing it on his own

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2010/06/14/SPJE1DUVGS.DTL

He’s also added another element to his game. Barton felt as if he was letting the team down too much the past two seasons by failing to move runners from second to third with nobody out. So this year he’s bunting in those situations. He has nine sacrifice bunts already. No A’s player had more than five all of last year, and the Oakland record is 22 (Dwayne Murphy, 1980).

None of Barton’s bunts have been called. He said he’s doing it on his own.

“It’s not expected of me, but if there’s an important run early in the game, I want to take advantage of it, get the momentum on our side,” he said. "It’s pretty much ingrained in me, at all costs, get that runner over. And it’s worked well.

AN: Where you will be an A's fan or Dallas Braden will show you the repercussions of your actions.

by stranahanahan on Jun 29, 2010 9:55 PM PDT up reply actions  

Thanks for the info

But, do you think that has anything to do with his .249 average entering this year? A sacrifice obviously doesn’t hurt the ole average.

by Thefirstletterofthealphabet on Jun 29, 2010 9:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

Two years ago, he would have been kicked off the team for that decision

Thus my hypothesis that maybe the medical staff is working under “new” conditions as well.

by Thefirstletterofthealphabet on Jun 29, 2010 10:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

yes,

Billy Beane used to go ballistic giving up any outs.

by Shed on Jun 29, 2010 10:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

The correlation is familiarity basis.

That is, the A’s really haven’t been setting records for injuries the last four years.

There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, Than are dreamt of in your philosophy.

by iglew on Jun 29, 2010 9:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

Preview fail.

basis bias

There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, Than are dreamt of in your philosophy.

by iglew on Jun 29, 2010 9:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

It is not famililiarity based, but not based on fact either.

I recall watching a game two years ago, and the announcers stating the A’s broke a record for most DL stints, and it was around 20. That was 2008, so curse me if I’m a bit off.

I know they used the DL that many times last year, and I know they are well above pace this year, so that is my suggestion. I’m sure there are people on this board that can skool me on this notion with facts.

by Thefirstletterofthealphabet on Jun 29, 2010 9:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yes, but we've led the league in days on the DL most of those years...

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by stranahanahan on Jun 29, 2010 9:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yikes

We’re pretty damn lucky to be playing the likes of the Pirates and Orioles these past few days because this team has not been playing any better than when they were losing all those games. Once the Indians series is done and the Yankees roll into town, I’m predicting some bad days ahead unless the A’s turn it around quickly.

Get the wins while you can, but it’s don’t be fooled into thinking that our fortunes have turned.

"Their batters are patient to the point that it's annoying." -Ryan Franklin

by Helloooo 1st on Jun 29, 2010 9:28 PM PDT reply actions  

I don't think they're playing as poorly

I think the defense is playing a helluva lot better than it was, and the bullpen isn’t looking as bad.

The hitting with the runners in the scoring position needs to improve drastically though…

AN: Where you will be an A's fan or Dallas Braden will show you the repercussions of your actions.

by stranahanahan on Jun 29, 2010 9:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah

I think Wuertz is coming along and Crisp has been money so far.

by TBRMKane on Jun 29, 2010 9:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

I heard I think it was Korach talking about how Bailey recognized he was pitching from some weird angle this season

And he told Wuertz about it last week and he fixed it…

AN: Where you will be an A's fan or Dallas Braden will show you the repercussions of your actions.

by stranahanahan on Jun 29, 2010 9:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

Wuertz had a mechanical flaw in his hip supposedly

by TBRMKane on Jun 29, 2010 9:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

Well, hopefully Doc Bailey fixed it

BTW, I didn’t know that Bailey gets a lot of movement from his pitches because he can’t straighten his arm…

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by stranahanahan on Jun 29, 2010 9:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

The defense may be one thing

But the bullpen looking better is probably a result of the batters they’re facing. If the Pirates D wasn’t so bad we could’ve lost 2/3 in that series.

"Their batters are patient to the point that it's annoying." -Ryan Franklin

by Helloooo 1st on Jun 29, 2010 10:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

Hate to say it, but against good teams

the A’s might be 1-3 during this stretch.

I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal

by Nico on Jun 30, 2010 10:52 AM PDT up reply actions  

Exactly

It’s going to suck once the Cleveland series is over. Maybe even before…

"Their batters are patient to the point that it's annoying." -Ryan Franklin

by Helloooo 1st on Jun 30, 2010 1:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

Whoever manages the Stockton Ports has an interesting way of constructing his lineup

Ryan Ortiz has been hitting in the bottom of the lineup for the past month and a half, and he’s hitting the cover off the ball.
Today he hit 9th and went 2 for 3 with a double, OPS of .968 this season, and 1.095 his last 10 games…

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by stranahanahan on Jun 29, 2010 9:32 PM PDT reply actions  

(boo)

sock puppets have never successfully defended castles, except when working with squirrels, which would never happen because squirrels know better than to trust sock puppets. -nm

by Leopold Bloom on Jun 29, 2010 10:01 PM PDT reply actions  

boo who?

...being a role model I probably wouldn't recommend eating dirt. But at the same time, I'm not trying to be a role model. I'm just trying to eat some dirt.

by attijah on Jun 29, 2010 10:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

who? boo?

sock puppets have never successfully defended castles, except when working with squirrels, which would never happen because squirrels know better than to trust sock puppets. -nm

by Leopold Bloom on Jun 29, 2010 10:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

The pig or the baseball player?

sock puppets have never successfully defended castles, except when working with squirrels, which would never happen because squirrels know better than to trust sock puppets. -nm

by Leopold Bloom on Jun 29, 2010 10:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

Pam, then.

sock puppets have never successfully defended castles, except when working with squirrels, which would never happen because squirrels know better than to trust sock puppets. -nm

by Leopold Bloom on Jun 29, 2010 10:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

she practices voodoo?

That explains a whole hell of a lot.

sock puppets have never successfully defended castles, except when working with squirrels, which would never happen because squirrels know better than to trust sock puppets. -nm

by Leopold Bloom on Jun 29, 2010 10:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

is that why everyone thinks she's funny?

"The ego, the super-ego, and the Ed" - dannycakes

by Future Ed on Jun 29, 2010 10:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

among other things, up to and including my car,

which is now fixed, but cost $520 at the car doctor.

sock puppets have never successfully defended castles, except when working with squirrels, which would never happen because squirrels know better than to trust sock puppets. -nm

by Leopold Bloom on Jun 29, 2010 10:28 PM PDT up reply actions  

would it be weird if I emailed you?

...being a role model I probably wouldn't recommend eating dirt. But at the same time, I'm not trying to be a role model. I'm just trying to eat some dirt.

by attijah on Jun 29, 2010 10:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

Me? Not at all. That's why it's there.

sock puppets have never successfully defended castles, except when working with squirrels, which would never happen because squirrels know better than to trust sock puppets. -nm

by Leopold Bloom on Jun 29, 2010 10:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

cool- I have to warn you- I had an energy drink with twice the buzz of normal energy drinks tonight.

...being a role model I probably wouldn't recommend eating dirt. But at the same time, I'm not trying to be a role model. I'm just trying to eat some dirt.

by attijah on Jun 29, 2010 10:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

I read.

Lucky for you, I like that. I had Pony Express today for the first time in about five years.

sock puppets have never successfully defended castles, except when working with squirrels, which would never happen because squirrels know better than to trust sock puppets. -nm

by Leopold Bloom on Jun 29, 2010 10:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

It's a type of coffee made by the Thanksgiving Coffee Company,

up this way—made in Ft. Bragg.

It is the closest that coffee comes to crank.

sock puppets have never successfully defended castles, except when working with squirrels, which would never happen because squirrels know better than to trust sock puppets. -nm

by Leopold Bloom on Jun 29, 2010 10:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

it's purely evil.

sock puppets have never successfully defended castles, except when working with squirrels, which would never happen because squirrels know better than to trust sock puppets. -nm

by Leopold Bloom on Jun 29, 2010 10:28 PM PDT up reply actions  

Fox says he was asked to change his batting strategy:
Fox — acquired by Baltimore on June 22 for minor league pitcher Ross Wolf after being designated for assignment by Oakland — likes to be aggressive in his at-bats and believes the A’s were taking him out of his comfort zone by asking him to take pitches and work counts.


“I didn’t mind his aggressiveness, it was just overaggressiveness — swinging at stuff that was out of the zone early in the count,” A’s hitting coach Jim Skaalen said. “I didn’t mind that he was going up there ready to hit. But there’s got to be a clear cut plan in mind. That was the thing that he might have taken issue with. But there’s talent there. That’s why they traded for him.”
from the Oakland Tribune.

by LoneStranger on Jun 29, 2010 10:14 PM PDT reply actions  

No, of course not

The A’s may have asked him to change his approach, but did he?
No.
Fox swung at the first pitch in what seemed like half his ABs.
There’s one thing to be aggressive, it’s another when you’re aggressive and can’t make contact or make weak contact, which is what he was doing.
These guys are major leaguers, they should be able to make the adjustments and work with a hitting coach…

AN: Where you will be an A's fan or Dallas Braden will show you the repercussions of your actions.

by stranahanahan on Jun 29, 2010 10:18 PM PDT up reply actions  

You can get to be aggressive...

… when you can hit out of the zone like Vlad… until then STFU rookie and learn

by Shed on Jun 29, 2010 10:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

so if it were up to fox

he would have swung at more pitches?

"The ego, the super-ego, and the Ed" - dannycakes

by Future Ed on Jun 29, 2010 10:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

would it have been possible?

sock puppets have never successfully defended castles, except when working with squirrels, which would never happen because squirrels know better than to trust sock puppets. -nm

by Leopold Bloom on Jun 29, 2010 10:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

You mean

He would have swung at less pitches

by TBRMKane on Jun 29, 2010 10:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

wait, we got rid of Jake Fox?

sock puppets have never successfully defended castles, except when working with squirrels, which would never happen because squirrels know better than to trust sock puppets. -nm

by Leopold Bloom on Jun 29, 2010 10:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

And Patterson

Hallelujah! Hallelujah! We are going to see the King!

@MAD_Marvin
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by Hit4TheCycle on Jun 29, 2010 10:19 PM PDT up reply actions  

Fox was dealt to Baltimore for a minor league pitcher and Patterson was dealt to Boston for a better minor league pitcher.

The Ultimate Opportunist

by Rated-R Superstar on Jun 29, 2010 10:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

And I even remember their names

because Fox was traded for Wolf (animal theme) and Patterson was traded for a guy named Fabian. I don’t think we have any other guys named Fabian.

by whiteshoes40 on Jun 29, 2010 10:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

how are the crickets this year?

sock puppets have never successfully defended castles, except when working with squirrels, which would never happen because squirrels know better than to trust sock puppets. -nm

by Leopold Bloom on Jun 29, 2010 10:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

Not too bad. Yet.

But noisy — chirping right outside my window at all hours of the night. Except right now, actually. It’s quite peaceful.

by whiteshoes40 on Jun 29, 2010 10:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

you need to invest in cricket repellent.

sock puppets have never successfully defended castles, except when working with squirrels, which would never happen because squirrels know better than to trust sock puppets. -nm

by Leopold Bloom on Jun 29, 2010 10:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

When I was young

I used to have a couple of lizards in a cage in my room.
I would feed them with crickets, but would always lose 1 or 2. They would then hide in my room and I would have the chirping of crickets in my room at all hours of the night.

AN: Where you will be an A's fan or Dallas Braden will show you the repercussions of your actions.

by stranahanahan on Jun 29, 2010 10:28 PM PDT up reply actions  

you're describing shoes' hell.

sock puppets have never successfully defended castles, except when working with squirrels, which would never happen because squirrels know better than to trust sock puppets. -nm

by Leopold Bloom on Jun 29, 2010 10:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

[Makes notes]

"You see, in this world there's two kinds of people, my friend: Those with loaded guns and those who dig. You dig."

by OldhamA on Jun 30, 2010 2:53 AM PDT up reply actions  

I think it's like if I push you down in elementary school.

Or maybe I’m just cruel. Who knows.

"You see, in this world there's two kinds of people, my friend: Those with loaded guns and those who dig. You dig."

by OldhamA on Jun 30, 2010 11:09 AM PDT up reply actions  

What a load of crap.

Fox swung at more pitches, in and out of the zone, this year than he did last year and overall, more than his career rates. Don’t blame the A’s because you sucked, Jake. The numbers say the blame on you.

"We were shit, pathetic," Guillen growled early in spring training. "We hit too many home runs."

by lenscrafters on Jun 29, 2010 10:19 PM PDT up reply actions  

blame is* on you

"We were shit, pathetic," Guillen growled early in spring training. "We hit too many home runs."

by lenscrafters on Jun 29, 2010 10:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

on me?

sock puppets have never successfully defended castles, except when working with squirrels, which would never happen because squirrels know better than to trust sock puppets. -nm

by Leopold Bloom on Jun 29, 2010 10:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

if you are sirbed, yes the blame is on you

otherwise no

"The ego, the super-ego, and the Ed" - dannycakes

by Future Ed on Jun 29, 2010 10:25 PM PDT up reply actions  

well, it's good to see things have not changed in my absence.

sock puppets have never successfully defended castles, except when working with squirrels, which would never happen because squirrels know better than to trust sock puppets. -nm

by Leopold Bloom on Jun 29, 2010 10:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah, I was definitely aiming to blame sirbed for Jake Fox's suckiness.

"We were shit, pathetic," Guillen growled early in spring training. "We hit too many home runs."

by lenscrafters on Jun 29, 2010 10:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

In Soviet Union, Jake Fox blames you!

There is no "i" in Teamocil. At least not where you'd think.

by GreenNGoldSooner on Jun 29, 2010 10:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

Pat Burrell just hit his 5th homer for the Giants and is batting .344 overall.

Shoulda. Picked. Him. Up.

"We were shit, pathetic," Guillen growled early in spring training. "We hit too many home runs."

by lenscrafters on Jun 29, 2010 10:28 PM PDT reply actions  

He seems like one of those comfy in the NL guys

Even the Rays couldn’t get that out of him.

@MAD_Marvin
The FairWeather Channel - Sports Comics and Bandwagon Forecast

by Hit4TheCycle on Jun 29, 2010 10:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

Because he hit so well in the AL

AN: Where you will be an A's fan or Dallas Braden will show you the repercussions of your actions.

by stranahanahan on Jun 29, 2010 10:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

He did a lot of damage in interleague this year.

The AL is better than the NL sure, but not that much. How much of his Giants performance would you discount?

At the time, I thought he would be a good righty off the bench (which the A’s desperately needed at the time) and at the worst, be an improvement over Fox. It was a good risk to take for the league minimum when you consider the outside chance that he might regain some of his former productivity. Getting him a change of scenery might have improved things as well.

It was the type of low risk, high reward move the A’s needed to make.

"We were shit, pathetic," Guillen growled early in spring training. "We hit too many home runs."

by lenscrafters on Jun 29, 2010 10:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah, I guess I could see it

AN: Where you will be an A's fan or Dallas Braden will show you the repercussions of your actions.

by stranahanahan on Jun 29, 2010 10:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

His swing looks great

But I can’t blame the A’s on that one. He looked pretty bad and it was reasonable to think he was more Giambi than not.

I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal

by Nico on Jun 29, 2010 10:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

The big difference is that Burrell is 33. Giambi was 38

"We were shit, pathetic," Guillen growled early in spring training. "We hit too many home runs."

by lenscrafters on Jun 29, 2010 10:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

This is true.

Well spank my ass and call me Sally, we shoulda signed him!

I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal

by Nico on Jun 30, 2010 10:53 AM PDT up reply actions  

So the Rangers-Angels game is over

Unfortunately, both teams did not lose.

AN: Where you will be an A's fan or Dallas Braden will show you the repercussions of your actions.

by stranahanahan on Jun 29, 2010 10:44 PM PDT reply actions  

Ye\ay for a win!

And boo for Braden having discomfort in his elbow!

Doesn’t sound good but hopefully if the A’s put him on the 15 day DL he can be back right after the All Star break. Go A’s and Coco is “The Man!”.

"By the end of the year, I'll have Dallas throwing right-handed'' -Ben Sheets

by mrod on Jun 30, 2010 12:21 AM PDT reply actions  

I just remembered, and I'm almost afraid to ask,

was there a lot of, um, large and colorful commentary in the game thread today?

There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, Than are dreamt of in your philosophy.

by iglew on Jun 30, 2010 2:13 AM PDT reply actions  

what are you doing up still?

Zooey Deschanel!

Cluck 'em all and let the Chick sort 'em out - DMOAS

by ChickenStanley on Jun 30, 2010 2:19 AM PDT up reply actions  

I'm always up late.

2:00-2:30 is normal bedtime for me.

There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, Than are dreamt of in your philosophy.

by iglew on Jun 30, 2010 10:05 AM PDT up reply actions  

I wasn't on there for the whole game, but I think what was in the DLD

stayed in the DLD

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by cuppingmaster on Jun 30, 2010 7:09 AM PDT up reply actions  

Thankfully, no.

She lives by the wall, and waits by the door.
She walks in the sun, to me.

by danmerqury on Jun 30, 2010 11:31 AM PDT up reply actions  

yay!

"The ego, the super-ego, and the Ed" - dannycakes

by Future Ed on Jun 30, 2010 12:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

What happened?!?

AN: Where you will be an A's fan or Dallas Braden will show you the repercussions of your actions.

by stranahanahan on Jun 30, 2010 1:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

Why isn't Braden on the DL?

People with his personality need to just be DL’ed. The A’s shouldn’t let him fight through it. He can’t throw his breaking ball… his elbow is sore… STOP PUTTING HIM OUT THERE!

He should’ve been put on the shelf weeks ago. The A’s management is pretty stupid sometimes.

by Brett Narloch on Jun 30, 2010 7:31 AM PDT reply actions  

he really should be DL now

hopefully if it’s only tendonitis he should be better after the all star break.

Not DLing him now means either sub-par starts and risk of bigger injury, or (if he simply doesn’t start) taking one active roster spot away.

by OaklandSi on Jun 30, 2010 8:10 AM PDT up reply actions  

Lineup tonight:
Crisp cf, Barton 1b, Jackson lf, Suzuki c, Kouzmanoff 3b, Sweeney rf, Ellis 2b, Gross dh, Pennington ss.

Either Cust is injured or Geren seriously thinks Gross is a better hitter than he is.

"We were shit, pathetic," Guillen growled early in spring training. "We hit too many home runs."

by lenscrafters on Jun 30, 2010 1:29 PM PDT reply actions  

And Jackson is a better defender

seriously its like he makes all the wrong choices.

"The ego, the super-ego, and the Ed" - dannycakes

by Future Ed on Jun 30, 2010 1:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

I read this:
Brett Anderson threw 40 pitches of the mound this week. #Athletics
5 minutes ago via Twittelator

as

Brett Anderson threw 40 bitches off the mound this week. #Athletics
5 minutes ago via Twittelator
and I thought, wow, he’s quite the pimp.

by LoneStranger on Jun 30, 2010 1:58 PM PDT reply actions  

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