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Let's review...

The A's scored their first run when Cliff Pennington walked and would have been picked off but the throw was wild. Pennington tried to go all the way to 3B where he could have been thrown out, but that throw short-hopped Andy LaRoche and caromed away as Pennington scored. 1 run, 0 hits, 2 errors.

The A's scored their second run when Jack Cust walked, Ellis hit a fly ball that Andrew McCutchen dropped for a two-base error, and then Pennington's bouncer to first base froze the runners -- but the pitcher, Ross Ohlendorf, also froze and Pennington beat him to first to load the bases with nobody out. Ohlendorf then walked Coco Crisp to force home a run before the A's squandered a bases loaded nobody out opportunity to break the game open. 1 run, 1 sort-of hit, 1 error.

Then after the Pirates scored two in the 7th to tie it 2-2, with two outs in the bottom of the 8th Kurt Suzuki lifted a pop foul between home and first that catcher Jason Jaramillo dropped. Suzuki HRed. 1 run, a real hit!!!!, 1 error.

How did the game end? On a base hit, of course, when Jose Tabata's single ticketed for RF off of Andrew Bailey struck the runner, Pedro Alvarez, going from 1B to 2B.

Star-divide

The A's may be headed to Baltimore to play the "Pirates of the AL," but there is no team that can match the Bad News Bears who graced the Coliseum this weekend.

As for Gio Gonzalez, don't be fooled by his line (6+ IP, 1 ER) as he was really rocky, starting only 7 hitters off with a first pitch strike, walking 4 against 2 Ks and barely throwing half his pitches for strikes. He did get a lot of ground balls, though -- 14 outs on the ground -- which saved him.

Pittsburgh has now lost 17 in a row on the road, one for each consecutive losing season they have endured since the mid-80s. So you see, it could be worse, folks. It could actually be worse.

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I love winning recaps...

LET’S GO OAKLAND!!

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by ohtobe21likehuston on Jun 27, 2010 4:00 PM PDT reply actions  

Join us in the Chris Townsend thread if you haven’t already.

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by Rated-R Superstar on Jun 27, 2010 4:01 PM PDT reply actions  

What a crazy game

Crosby finished 1-for-11 in the series, yes?

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by Flashfire on Jun 27, 2010 4:03 PM PDT reply actions  

1 for 11 with a 1.000 boo rate.

She lives by the wall, and waits by the door.
She walks in the sun, to me.

by danmerqury on Jun 27, 2010 4:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

The meaning of life is not so much 'found,' as it is 'made.' --Opus

by The Dogfather on Jun 28, 2010 2:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

They needed this win so bad...

A’s need to be at least .500 before the break.

by Sniff009 on Jun 27, 2010 4:14 PM PDT reply actions  

I never would have thought this possible

But I actually feel worse for Pirates fans at the moment than Royals fans. Though I think the Pirates may have a slightly brighter future, they are just so insanely bad right now it’s hard to consider that. At least the Royals have several fantastic writers who cover them regularly.

by ORthey on Jun 27, 2010 4:17 PM PDT reply actions  

God somebody needs to wipe that retarded smirk off Kate longworths face, she makes Amy gutierrez look good in comparrison… Well, they are both horrible nvm

by RickRoller on Jun 27, 2010 4:19 PM PDT via mobile reply actions  

Our record would look pretty good

if we could play the Pirates everyday during the month of June.

Paddle Faster! I hear banjo music.

by alpine26 on Jun 27, 2010 4:29 PM PDT reply actions  

Just seems like everyone who covers the a’s is a major spaz lol

by RickRoller on Jun 27, 2010 4:29 PM PDT via mobile reply actions  

What are you talking about?

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by Rated-R Superstar on Jun 27, 2010 4:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

The trade that didn't happen

  The A’s asked about Andy LaRoche in the off season and the pirates asked for Gio and Sweeney for him. Beane turned them down cold. Talk about over asking on a player. LaRoche is now likely their utility player. 2 thoughts come to mind don’t over pay for a 1 year wonder and don’t over price yourself out of the trade market.

by Arcman on Jun 27, 2010 4:33 PM PDT reply actions  

Yeah, no.

It is way, way, way too early to call Andy LaRoche a “one-year wonder.” Here are his minor league OPS over the last four years:

2005: .926
2006: .924
2007: .987
2008: .873

He was rated as a top-100 prospect year all four years. And then in 2009, he finally got a chance to play full time in the majors, was an average hitter and a good defender, and racked up 2.7 WAR. Asking for Gio Gonzalez or Ryan Sweeney in return wasn’t over asking–that’s about right for a top prospect turned young, above-average MLB player. In fact, that’s what Gonzalez and Sweeney both were. That’s a fair trade proposition if you ask me, hindsight be damned.

If you think Billy Beane is a bad GM, I hate you and find you stupid.

by NateHST on Jun 27, 2010 5:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah, that's a pretty horrific "first shot" asking price.

I mean, asking for ONE of them was probably a stretch.

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by mikev on Jun 27, 2010 8:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

pretty glad we decided to ship off the whiny Hairston and uninspiring Cunningham for KOUZ instead.

-Yeah, I just posted that, but my opinion is apparently "wrong" a significant portion of the time though, so take it as you will.

by PL78 on Jun 27, 2010 11:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

It's a ridiculous asking price if you expect LaRoche to remain stagnant (or perform like he currently is) for his entire career.

But it’s not unreasonable to expect a 26-year old former top prospect to improve. Especially at a position of need? I think one of Sweeney or Gonzalez (IIRC, they didn’t ask for both) isn’t as outrageous as you and mikev and Arcman are making it out to be.

If you think Billy Beane is a bad GM, I hate you and find you stupid.

by NateHST on Jun 28, 2010 9:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

not worth it.

  Maybe for Sweeney would be fair but not a SP who was also a top prospect. SP is just to hard to find. Just like Buck who was once a good prospect but couldn’t bring much in trade now.

by Arcman on Jun 27, 2010 10:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

Well the problem with this logic is that at the time of the proposed trade, the A's had a wealth of SP

and zero 3B prospects.

If you think Billy Beane is a bad GM, I hate you and find you stupid.

by NateHST on Jun 28, 2010 9:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

Some comments from the game

Lovely day at the colliseum. A few observations:

1) The Pirates are awful. 4 errors flatter them if anything. The pennington 1st to 3rd was at least 3 errors
2) We weren’t good offensively against a very average pitcher
3) Gio was solid again (though hard to tell against this offense); he deserved a win
4) No idea why Geren immediately replaced him after the bomb; especially with Zeigler (the crowd was not happy with Ziggy’s performance
5) Go Suzuki – came up clutch again for the umpteenth time in his short career
6) The value deck is awesome guys – I’ve been on the 3rd deck before but way out, but seriously $12, a great view behind home plate, and $6 worth of free food is a steal
7) Did I say the pirates were truly awful?

by Shed on Jun 27, 2010 5:07 PM PDT reply actions  

  1. - I meant 1st to home

by Shed on Jun 27, 2010 5:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

RE: #1

What other Error would you give them? There was a bad throw to first and a bad throw to third. That’s it.

Ask me about my squirrel.

by DMOAS on Jun 27, 2010 6:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

not a real “error” error, but the pitcher, backing up 3rd, couldn’t pick up the ball while p-ton was running and may have been able to throw him out if he’d been swifter.

don't care if i ever get back.

by AV on Jun 27, 2010 7:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

Coming up soon is Cleveland

and its been totally lost in the Strasburg-Heyward-Posey-Stanton mania, but Carlos Santana has had a 1179 OPS in his first 15 big league games. We better not give him too much to hit, because he’s doing a pretty good Pujols impersonation right now.

-Yeah, I just posted that, but my opinion is apparently "wrong" a significant portion of the time though, so take it as you will.

by PL78 on Jun 27, 2010 5:20 PM PDT reply actions  

I honestly feel bad for the Pirates.

Any Pittsburgh fan that can remain loyal to an organization that is putting that team on the field has my respect.

If you think Billy Beane is a bad GM, I hate you and find you stupid.

by NateHST on Jun 27, 2010 5:21 PM PDT reply actions  

True.

Its actually really hard to not somehow fluke even a .500 season in 18 years.

-Yeah, I just posted that, but my opinion is apparently "wrong" a significant portion of the time though, so take it as you will.

by PL78 on Jun 27, 2010 5:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

Usually

the argument that “it could be worse” strikes me as a gross rationalization for non-improvement. After watching the utter ineptitude of the Pirates in all aspects of the game over the last 3 days however, I’m prepared to accept it with a smile on my face.

I mean damn, what if we were those guys.

by Axl on Jun 27, 2010 5:30 PM PDT reply actions  

and, somehow

they got a new stadium and have a more stable future than we do.

-Yeah, I just posted that, but my opinion is apparently "wrong" a significant portion of the time though, so take it as you will.

by PL78 on Jun 27, 2010 11:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

Two conclusions

1. The A’s swept. Onward and upward.
2. The A’s are not a bad team, literally. The Pirates are. If the Pirates were not defensively inept, the A’s would have lost two out of the three games.

by richwol1 on Jun 27, 2010 5:44 PM PDT reply actions  

The Red Sox are feeling pretty bad right now

1st Pedroia then Bucholz and now Victor Martinez to the DL with a broken thumb caused by swinging bat hitting him when he was catching.

by Trainman on Jun 27, 2010 5:49 PM PDT reply actions  

Which is worse, losing 3 players that good

or not having any players that good to lose? ;-)

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by Nico on Jun 27, 2010 5:50 PM PDT up reply actions  

Are you laughing because you don't consider Anderson that good?

I’d take Anderson over Buchholz. Buchholz is three years older and walks twice as many guys.

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by thejd44 on Jun 27, 2010 7:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

No

I am laughing at Nico’s comment.

by Trainman on Jun 27, 2010 7:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

Losing 3 good players could be demoralizing. Not having them to begin with makes you a plucky team.

...being a role model I probably wouldn't recommend eating dirt. But at the same time, I'm not trying to be a role model. I'm just trying to eat some dirt.

by attijah on Jun 27, 2010 5:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

Trade them Suzuki, Ellis and Sheets for their entire farm system.

If you think Billy Beane is a bad GM, I hate you and find you stupid.

by NateHST on Jun 27, 2010 6:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

Only if we can have Patterson back

"Their batters are patient to the point that it's annoying." -Ryan Franklin

by Helloooo 1st on Jun 27, 2010 6:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

You forgot a 't.

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by danmerqury on Jun 27, 2010 6:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

Patterson't!

I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal

by Nico on Jun 27, 2010 6:55 PM PDT up reply actions  

that's kind of a like a new swear word, right?

Patterson’t!

Ahh Ed Cr&*%y’t!

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by eastcoasta'sfan on Jun 27, 2010 6:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

After serving cocktails to Red Sox fans all weekend over across the bridge....

All I have to say is “F#%* em’!” I got no sympathy for the Red Sox or the mostly bandwagon idiots that come to visiting stadiums and “stink up the joint”. Ugh!

Anyhoo………stoked we got the sweep and still not understanding Geren pulling Gio so early. He wasn’t pitching badly and I really thought that he deserved to finish the inning, if possible. If any of you noticed Gio leaving the mound after he was yanked today, I sincerely doubt he was muttering, “Gee thanks for taking me out now coach…I sure was looking forward to an early shower and a short cut to the post game buffet…”. Lame…..At some point as a manager you need to show some faith in your young starters and especially after letting Cahill throw 117 pitches last night, don’t you think Gio deserved at least the chance to finish the 7th after only 88 pitches thrown?

Obviously of Ziggy does his job or the A’s don’t fail epically to bring home at least one more un with the bases juiced, we’re not even having this discussion…

I’m just tired of Geren screwing the pooch and taking away opportunites from his starters to get a decision, and this was no exception. All in all I’m happy with a win and Zooks hitting a timely “dinger” again….onward to Baltimore and Cleveland, home of “The Chiefs Of Sucking Wind!” Go As’!

"By the end of the year, I'll have Dallas throwing right-handed'' -Ben Sheets

by mrod on Jun 27, 2010 8:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

No...

Just told a number of them that they were gonna have to wait and be good little “Banjos” and, "How about a nice tall, warm glass of “STFU” instead?".

:)

"By the end of the year, I'll have Dallas throwing right-handed'' -Ben Sheets

by mrod on Jun 27, 2010 8:28 PM PDT up reply actions  

Also, I really didn't dig the fans booing Bobby Crosby this series...

I thought it lacked class and tact….and even if you hate Crosby, he played for this team for 6+ years and played hard all the time, even if he did suck for most of it. Just didn’t really appreciate the bs people were throwing out to the guy while he was here. I thought A’s fans were a little bit better than that and it really disappoints me that folks would treat him with such disrespect and mean spirited ball-busting. That’s it…

"By the end of the year, I'll have Dallas throwing right-handed'' -Ben Sheets

by mrod on Jun 27, 2010 8:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

I agree. That was classless.

Sure he wore out his welcome with us and it dragged on too long but let by-gones be by-gones.

alaska A residing in northern Idaho.

by ak_A on Jun 27, 2010 8:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

I'm sorry

But fandom doesn’t work that way. A’s fans are not ‘better than that’ or ‘worse than that’ when it comes to booing a bad player with a bad attitude who comes back as a visiting player. Im sure that every fanbase would have booed Crosby upon his return. He sucked, never lived up to expectations, was a whiner, had a ridiculous father who was a whiner, and was just not a good Oakland Athletic. I booed him heartily on Friday and have no guilt or regrets about it. We cheer players we liked (Tejada, Swisher) and boo players we didn’t like. Or ones we did like but then signed with the Yankees (Giambi).

by ORthey on Jun 27, 2010 8:42 PM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

Crosby's dad.

We joke about this a lot, but I think it should be acknowledged that Ed Crosby is not a “ridiculous” “whiner”. He made one silly comment about his son, which was probably already blown out of proportion in the news story we all read, and then we blew it out of proportion even more here at AN having fun with the story. But really, the guy is just a dad who loves his son and was a little unrealistic about his talent. That does not make him ridiculous.

There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, Than are dreamt of in your philosophy.

by iglew on Jun 27, 2010 9:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

you mean the media is a cruel magnifying glass

turning our faults into chasms?
Say it ain’t so, Joe.

Next,you’ll tell me B. Bonds is not a complete & total jerk.

by MobiusKlein on Jun 27, 2010 9:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

bobby bonds got a raw deal with the media

his son, a jerk maybe, is the product of, among other things, his dad’s relationship with the media

"The ego, the super-ego, and the Ed" - dannycakes

by Future Ed on Jun 27, 2010 10:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

I thought it was more than just one comment.

Or maybe it was one interview that got coverage stretched over a couple weeks.

by LoneStranger on Jun 28, 2010 9:13 AM PDT up reply actions  

Oh, and

“played hard all the time” – I’m not so sure about that. You have to question a player’s work ethic when, after 6 years of failing as an offensive player, he STILL stands ten feet away from the plater.

by ORthey on Jun 27, 2010 8:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

exactly

He did NOT play hard, at all. He refused to change his flawed game and he whined like crazy and his dad did the same. I’ll boo that loser every chance I get. Sorry if its “not classy” but I’m hardly at the game with a monocle, a platter of expensive cheeses and a bottle of expensive merlot here, its baseball not the opera.

-Yeah, I just posted that, but my opinion is apparently "wrong" a significant portion of the time though, so take it as you will.

by PL78 on Jun 27, 2010 11:49 PM PDT up reply actions  

Opera would be better if

the spectators were more like baseball spectators. That’s what it was like in the good old days. Now it’s all snooty.

There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, Than are dreamt of in your philosophy.

by iglew on Jun 28, 2010 2:00 AM PDT up reply actions  

Remind me not to take either of you guys to the opera.......

And you’ll have none of my wine either!

But you can keep the cheese! :)

"By the end of the year, I'll have Dallas throwing right-handed'' -Ben Sheets

by mrod on Jun 28, 2010 4:37 PM PDT up reply actions  

I prefer an audience that isn't afraid

to clap at the “wrong” time.

There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, Than are dreamt of in your philosophy.

by iglew on Jun 29, 2010 12:50 AM PDT up reply actions  

It's not so much the sucking.

That’s not his fault. It may not even be the fact that he never fixed his problems (standing 50 feet from the plate, flailing at low and away sliders again and again and again). Also may not be his fault. What IS his fault is his shitty attitude when he left, and his dad’s remarks.

She lives by the wall, and waits by the door.
She walks in the sun, to me.

by danmerqury on Jun 27, 2010 8:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

Agreed

It’s the attitude about the sucking that did him in. And fans love to boo – it’s just life.

by ORthey on Jun 27, 2010 8:56 PM PDT up reply actions  

+1

Being bad and not living up to promise for a guy who busts his ass to be better is one thing. I wouldn’t boo that. But Crosby didn’t. Crosby thought he was a damn Hall of Famer even last year when he was on the way out. His attitude, his father, his belief that he was good enough as is is what makes him boo-worthy.

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by thejd44 on Jun 27, 2010 9:19 PM PDT up reply actions  

I don't boo people

but I understand when a person who signed a big(ish) contract and never lived up to expectations get booed.

"The ego, the super-ego, and the Ed" - dannycakes

by Future Ed on Jun 27, 2010 10:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

hmm

so booing Chavez is cool?

-Yeah, I just posted that, but my opinion is apparently "wrong" a significant portion of the time though, so take it as you will.

by PL78 on Jun 27, 2010 11:50 PM PDT up reply actions  

No!

There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, Than are dreamt of in your philosophy.

by iglew on Jun 28, 2010 2:00 AM PDT up reply actions  

2005, 2006, 2007

were ok. its been 2008, 2009 and 2010 that have been a problem.

Crosby was bad when he played. not that he was of no value because of injury.

so, no. on Chavez.

"The ego, the super-ego, and the Ed" - dannycakes

by Future Ed on Jun 28, 2010 7:24 AM PDT up reply actions  

+1

100% agreed. If you’re crap you’re crap, but don’t be crap and have attitude. You can’t feel entitled, 4 years after dishing up crap after your rookie of the year season (which less face it was a good season, but not an outrageously good season)

by Shed on Jun 27, 2010 10:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yep

Basically it was the stinking for four years or so to the point the A’s were looking at going in another direction and him acting like it was a major insult to even consider playing someone else at shortstop.

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by Flashfire on Jun 27, 2010 10:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

I did enjoy yelling at Cahill to throw him nothing but sliders, though.

Booing is a bit much, I think.

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by mikev on Jun 27, 2010 8:53 PM PDT up reply actions  

LOW ... AND AWAY

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by doctorK on Jun 27, 2010 8:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

Having taught in private school for 15 years,

I can tell you Crosby is the poster boy for “entitled brat” — nothing is his fault, his daddy will tell you so. Booooooooooooo.

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by Nico on Jun 27, 2010 8:55 PM PDT up reply actions  

thank you Mr. Chips.

alaska A residing in northern Idaho.

by ak_A on Jun 27, 2010 8:56 PM PDT up reply actions  

He's a daddy's boy

He still needs his dad to tell teams that he doesn’t suck

by TBRMKane on Jun 27, 2010 8:56 PM PDT up reply actions  

Well, I'm sorry we disagree on this one

but I still think it was a shitty thing to do to the guy.

"By the end of the year, I'll have Dallas throwing right-handed'' -Ben Sheets

by mrod on Jun 27, 2010 8:56 PM PDT up reply actions  

I guess I think booing is a lot different from

getting personal. It’s just booing. If you don’t want to get booed, try not dissing the team that you failed for 6 years on your way out of town.

I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal

by Nico on Jun 27, 2010 8:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

How was he dissing the team? Or did I miss something?

I’m just curious…

"By the end of the year, I'll have Dallas throwing right-handed'' -Ben Sheets

by mrod on Jun 27, 2010 8:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

I'm not sure how

booing the guy is a “shitty thing.” This is sports. Players are booed constantly. Fans boo excessive throws to first base from the pitcher. Fans boo steroid users. And they boo bad players with bad attitudes. They even boo bad players with good attitudes, and good players with bad attitudes. It’s part of sports.

by ORthey on Jun 27, 2010 9:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

But I did hear people yelling obsenities at him

and it really bothers me when people do that kind of shit! Comprende?

"By the end of the year, I'll have Dallas throwing right-handed'' -Ben Sheets

by mrod on Jun 27, 2010 9:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah I don't condone that

I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal

by Nico on Jun 27, 2010 9:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah

Obscenities I’m not into. It’s low. I prefer booing and verbose, nerdy heckling (like “The AFL-CIO calls betters strikes, blue!”).

And yet… again, part of sports, like it or not.

by ORthey on Jun 27, 2010 9:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

Actually...

people were waaaaaaaaay more brutal during the soccer matches today! Man, people get nasty!

"By the end of the year, I'll have Dallas throwing right-handed'' -Ben Sheets

by mrod on Jun 27, 2010 9:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

Speaking of which, I'm not seeing World Cup talk

here any more. Have we all lost interest now that U.S. and U.K. are out? Or is it hiding in some other thread I didn’t notice?

There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, Than are dreamt of in your philosophy.

by iglew on Jun 27, 2010 9:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

I’ve lost some interest, but I am not a soccer fan.

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by Rated-R Superstar on Jun 27, 2010 9:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

I'm sure there will be

I’m just not a soccer fan. I mainly only watched to see how the USA did and because most of the games were in the morning before I was up to much.

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by Flashfire on Jun 28, 2010 12:15 AM PDT up reply actions  

Lost some rooting interest, but still very actively following

…but then again, I’m in Germany (where you can follow the matches by standing in empty streets and listing to the cheering as Germany scores).

Also: it’s England, not the UK (as any Scot, Welshman, or Ulsterman will tell you).

Finally: Hup Holland Hup!

There is no "i" in Teamocil. At least not where you'd think.

by GreenNGoldSooner on Jun 27, 2010 10:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

My bad on "U.K."

I should know that. (I suppose I could say that it’s still correct that U.K. is out now, since the other bits were eliminated in the qualifying rounds.)

I was looking at the remaining schedule and I noticed that there is a non-trivial chance that the semifinalists could end up being Brazil, Argentina, Uruguay and Paraguay. If they do, it’ll be the first time the four semifinalists are geographically contiguous since 1934 when it was Italy, Austria, Czechslovakia, and Germany. (Or if Chile beats Brazil tomorrow, then it still works with Chile.)

This silly geographical quirk is sufficient reason for me to root for the South American teams now.

There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, Than are dreamt of in your philosophy.

by iglew on Jun 28, 2010 2:12 AM PDT up reply actions  

Of course, Germany then one-upped that situation...

…by annexing two of the other semifinalists within the next four years.*

That geographical feat is unlikely to be matched this decade, I’m happy to say.

*(I almost wrote “by the time of the next World Cup”….but in June 1938, while Austria was already gone, Czechoslovakia had a few more months of independence and actually outperformed the Thousand-Year Reich in the ’39 World Cup)

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by GreenNGoldSooner on Jun 28, 2010 5:46 AM PDT up reply actions  

Don't get me started about Czechoslovakia.

I’ll only point out your chronological error. The Sudety regions were annexed in October of 1938, but Czechoslovakia was not annexed until March 1939.

As usual, I blame Woodrow Wilson.

There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, Than are dreamt of in your philosophy.

by iglew on Jun 28, 2010 12:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

Still following

Although not as avidly now that the U.S. was knocked out. I’ve had to rationalize that since I’m a part German I’ll just root for them instead.

"Their batters are patient to the point that it's annoying." -Ryan Franklin

by Helloooo 1st on Jun 27, 2010 10:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

I have not lost interest at all....

spent the whole afternoon (after the A’s) watching the games from today that we taped…..really looking forward to the spain/portugal game. I don’t know where anyone is posting anything other than the daily soccer site – and there are only 10 people or so that seem to visit over there!

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by Berry Jo on Jun 28, 2010 12:08 AM PDT up reply actions  

Booing him was dumb

I’m thrilled he no longer plays for the A’s, and I was happy to see him go 1-11 for the series, but to boo him and yell obscenities is too much. The best response from the fans would have been to greet him was stone-cold silence.

BEER IS GOOD. BEER IS GOOD. BEER IS GOOD, AND STUFF.

by doctorK on Jun 27, 2010 9:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

Perhaps......

Thank you Doctor…

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by mrod on Jun 27, 2010 9:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

I called it and cheered for it when he hit into a predictable DP - not FOR US!!!

The funny thing about baseball is that people will believe what they want to believe. -Joe Posnanski 8/29/09

by pam5981 on Jun 27, 2010 9:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

I cheered for all his strickouts

BEER IS GOOD. BEER IS GOOD. BEER IS GOOD, AND STUFF.

by doctorK on Jun 27, 2010 9:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

Booing is fine. Clever heckling (which doesn't involve obscenities) is fine.

Being personal in your attack, vulgar, etc. is not cool. They’re not the same thing though.

I don’t see how it’s in bad taste to boo a guy who wasn’t giving 100% while here.

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by thejd44 on Jun 27, 2010 9:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah baseball is a family environment

Its always really awkward and out of place when a fan swears loudly at players. Booing is perfect. It lets the player know he is not welcome here.

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by PL78 on Jun 27, 2010 11:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

I think it's a small price to pay for being a Major League Baseball player.

The funny thing about baseball is that people will believe what they want to believe. -Joe Posnanski 8/29/09

by pam5981 on Jun 27, 2010 9:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

I understand that...

I guess I am looking at it more from a purely human perspective…even “Daddy’s boys” have feelings…..

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by mrod on Jun 27, 2010 9:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

You're too sweet :D

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by pam5981 on Jun 27, 2010 9:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

Aww.....

I guess after talking with some players on a one on one basis, it kind of changes the way you look at things.

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by mrod on Jun 27, 2010 9:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

DAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRYYYYYYYYYYLLLLLLLLLLLLLL

BEER IS GOOD. BEER IS GOOD. BEER IS GOOD, AND STUFF.

by doctorK on Jun 27, 2010 9:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

These are professional athletes....this just rolls right off their back.

What you fail to understand in your joyless myopia is that baseball is the key to life-- the Rosetta Stone, if you will. If you just understood baseball better all your other questions your, your... the, uh... the aliens, the conspiracies they would all, in their way be answered by the baseball gods.

by winchester5 on Jun 28, 2010 1:31 AM PDT up reply actions  

I guess I'd probably be okay with pulling in millions of dollars and taking a couple of

“FU’s!” at the end of the day….I still don’t like it!

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by mrod on Jun 27, 2010 9:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

....and getting millions of dollars doing so

I’m sure every human on earth would love to get obscenely paid to play a game and the only negative thing about it is getting booed once in a while.

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by PL78 on Jun 27, 2010 11:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

Surely not EVERY human on earth.

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by iglew on Jun 28, 2010 2:13 AM PDT up reply actions  

hyperbole, have you heard of it?

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by PL78 on Jun 28, 2010 11:00 AM PDT up reply actions  

Give me a million, and I would be okay with being booed every game.

though I may balk if bags of urine are involved…….but three million? throw them!

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by ak_A on Jun 28, 2010 6:05 AM PDT up reply actions  

1 for 11 for the series...

was punishment enough…..

:)

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by mrod on Jun 27, 2010 9:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

Watching Dodgers-Yanks game

Yanks playing defense like the Pirates in the 3rd inning

by OaklandSi on Jun 27, 2010 6:08 PM PDT via mobile reply actions  

I think I like it when the Rangers lose,

but I can’t really remember.

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by Nico on Jun 27, 2010 8:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

Which they will be, starting Tuesday

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by Nico on Jun 27, 2010 8:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

Finally

Something’s gotta give

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by FrankCohen on Jun 27, 2010 8:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

yanks making it interesting.

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by ak_A on Jun 27, 2010 8:17 PM PDT reply actions  

tied

alaska A residing in northern Idaho.

by ak_A on Jun 27, 2010 8:32 PM PDT reply actions  

Get off your asses and vote Suzuki to the all star game.

It’s not a lie if you believe it.

by Brownie's Year on Jun 27, 2010 8:33 PM PDT reply actions  

To me, Mauer and Martinez deserve it more than Suzuki. I don’t see a spot for him on the team.

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by Rated-R Superstar on Jun 27, 2010 8:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

Mauer yes, Martinez no

Teams run wild on Martinez and he doesn’t move well to save WPs either. Good hitter but not a great catcher overall.

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by Nico on Jun 27, 2010 8:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

Nico, you are aware what happens on the field has nothing to do with all-star selection, dont you?

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by PL78 on Jun 27, 2010 11:55 PM PDT up reply actions  

here you are wrong

it effects which Yankee or RSox gets the most votes.

by MobiusKlein on Jun 28, 2010 9:44 AM PDT up reply actions  

Are you saying Martinez deserves an ALL Star spot over Zooks

because of his offensive numbers? Because his defense sucks! Just saying…

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by mrod on Jun 27, 2010 8:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

Martinez may be irrelevant

Considering he got a fractured pinky finger today, he may not even be able to play in the ASG.

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by doctorK on Jun 27, 2010 9:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

With like 517 roster spots

There’s not a good reason to NOT have 3 catchers.

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by thejd44 on Jun 27, 2010 9:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

First, every yankee and red sox makes the team.

dont forget that.

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by PL78 on Jun 27, 2010 11:56 PM PDT up reply actions  

Epic Joe Torre Fail

Broxton threw like 48 pitches blew a 4 run lead and his arm looked like it was going to fall off and he left him in.

That is as bad as any Geren move I have seen

by Trainman on Jun 27, 2010 8:40 PM PDT reply actions  

Broxton couldn't get a swinging strike to save his life.

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by Nico on Jun 27, 2010 8:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

I think he's overrated

He chokes in big game situations. 2 years in a row in playoffs.

In the AL, his ERA would be 3 times the size it is now IMO.

by Trainman on Jun 27, 2010 8:50 PM PDT up reply actions  

Overrated?

He has a 12.0 K/9 and a 3.57 K/BB over his career. I think he’s pretty damn good.

by ORthey on Jun 27, 2010 8:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

On another note....

Trevor Cahill is starting to remind me of Huddy with a bigger body….man he has looked downright nasty his last several starts! Could he be a darkhorse All Star candidate?

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by mrod on Jun 27, 2010 9:01 PM PDT reply actions  

That's the word on the street.

Well, the twitter street, I suppose. Cahill has stepped up and dominated. Could very well be him.

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by danmerqury on Jun 27, 2010 9:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

The sad truth is that the A's don't have a single player

who deserves any real consideration. Suzuki has missed 2.5 weeks and put up pretty pedestrian offensive numbers, Barton has been good but he’s no Morneau or Youkilis, Bailey has been “very good” but not stellar, and so on.

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by Nico on Jun 27, 2010 9:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah

The A’s seriously have no one worthy

by TBRMKane on Jun 27, 2010 9:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

Brett Anderson is one of the top 10 SP's in the AL

and Bailey is the best closer in the AL. Only Mariano can be said in the same sentence as he.

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by PL78 on Jun 27, 2010 11:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

Whoa.

Valverde, Soria, and Soriano disagree.

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by danmerqury on Jun 28, 2010 12:11 AM PDT up reply actions  

Don’t forget about Feliz.

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by Rated-R Superstar on Jun 28, 2010 12:12 AM PDT up reply actions  

Rivera is so much better than Bailey it's not even funny

Rivera is in another world.

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by Nico on Jun 28, 2010 9:22 AM PDT up reply actions  

He's 40 and still stricking people out. He's special.

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by OldhamA on Jun 28, 2010 9:43 AM PDT up reply actions  

Its funny that you guys all choose this time to ignore stats.

From opening day to now:

Bailey WAR: 3.0
Mariano WAR: 3.0
Soriano WAR: 2.7
Soria WAR: 2.4
Feliz WAR: 2.0
Valverde WAR: 1.4

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by PL78 on Jun 28, 2010 10:58 AM PDT up reply actions  

sorry that should read "From opening day 2009 to now"

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by PL78 on Jun 28, 2010 10:59 AM PDT up reply actions  

It's funny that you would use WAR to compare relievers.

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by lenscrafters on Jun 28, 2010 11:03 AM PDT up reply actions  

well its one way of doing things

at least I didnt use “rates” —oh wait :(

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by PL78 on Jun 28, 2010 2:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

Uh.

Bailey WAR: 3.0 (in 114.1 IP)
Mariano WAR: 3.0 (in 95.2 IP)
Soriano WAR: 2.7 (in 103.1 IP)
Soria WAR: 2.4 (in 80.2 IP)
Feliz WAR: 2.0 (in 64.1 IP)
Valverde WAR: 1.4 (in 86.1 IP)

Looks a bit different now, doesn’t it?

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by danmerqury on Jun 28, 2010 11:12 AM PDT up reply actions  

So what you're saying...

…what you’re saying is with the same amount of innings, others would have a higher WAR?

Wait, what if…what if they all had 114.1 IP at the same “rate” as Bailey?

Rivera: 3.6
Soriano: 3.0
Soria: 3.4
Feliz: 3.6
Valverde: 1.6

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by Flashfire on Jun 28, 2010 11:18 AM PDT up reply actions  

Most of that being Bailey's awesome 2009 season

which he has not been able to replicate (not a knock on him, just saying that Rivera does what he does every year, while Bailey had a magical rookie season and has regressed to “very good”).

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by Nico on Jun 28, 2010 11:30 AM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah

The “Bailey is the best closer in the AL” line just made me laugh, even before it was proven not to be true.

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by Flashfire on Jun 28, 2010 11:40 AM PDT up reply actions  

Also, he's been a closer for about 9 months.

Mariano Rivera’s been closing since before Jesus was born.

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by pam5981 on Jun 28, 2010 11:41 AM PDT up reply actions  

Mariano been closing since before

June 26, 1974?

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by Nick on Jun 28, 2010 11:54 AM PDT up reply actions  

heh

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by Future Ed on Jun 28, 2010 11:58 AM PDT up reply actions  

I'm pretty sure Mariano Rivera and Jesus

were born at the exact same time.

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by Nico on Jun 28, 2010 1:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

You didnt prove anything though.

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by PL78 on Jun 28, 2010 2:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

Um, you just used "rates" on closers.

Relief pitching can be a precarious thing, they can go from being unhittable to falling off a cliff in an instant. The fact that Bailey has had MORE chances to blow out his numbers actually makes the argument of him being better than everyone else more legitimate.

Remember when AN was pro-our own players? WTF has happened here? Bailey is the best closer in the AL since opening day 09 and you are making up bullshit arguments against YOUR OWN TEAMS PLAYER.

Enough with this negative horseshit everyone, its really beyond annoying….

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by PL78 on Jun 28, 2010 2:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

There's nothing wrong with being pro-A's here

But you’re flat out wrong on Bailey having been the best closer in the AL since opening day 2009. It’s just not factual at all.

I’m not making up shit. I’m being objective and truthful without hyperbole. No negativity, either. It’s not negative to say Bailey hasn’t been the best closer. It’s a falsehood to say he is, however.

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by Flashfire on Jun 28, 2010 2:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

It isnt. We disagree and the numbers are on my side. I have no idea why you want to argue seemingly everything I post, even when I have facts and stats backing me up.

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by PL78 on Jun 28, 2010 3:50 PM PDT up reply actions  

Why would you bring something like personal preference into the argument?

Rooting for a player or the team he plays on doesn’t make him good.

by LoneStranger on Jun 28, 2010 3:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

Bailey leads all AL relievers in WAR since opening day last year.

That makes him good. Mariano is also as good, but not better nor worse than Bailey from Apr 1 2009, until now. Obviously he has the better long term career, but the ASG is about rewarding the players who were good more recently.

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by PL78 on Jun 28, 2010 4:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yup!

He was the best player we had, and our “forced” rep. He actually deserves it this year though.

Mark Redman was an all-star with an ERA over 5. Baseball makes no sense sometimes.

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by PL78 on Jun 28, 2010 4:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

In reality, the ASG is in a large part a popularity contest.

Yes, it should reward players who are having career years, not players who play in big markets. That being said, Bailey isn’t having as good a year this year as he did last year.

by LoneStranger on Jun 28, 2010 4:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

I'm with PL on this one.

Being able to pitch 114 innings in a year instead of 95 or 86 is part of the pitcher’s value. It makes sense to credit him for that. Among other things, this is why starters in general are more valuable than relievers in general.

What if Andrew Bailey pitched as many innings as Felix Hernandez? ZOMG, he’d have 6 WAR!! But he doesn’t.

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by iglew on Jun 28, 2010 2:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

It was actually 83 1/3 last year

Maybe it’s me, but that seems like too much for most closers over the long term. Rivera’s usually in the low 70s.

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by Flashfire on Jun 28, 2010 3:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

Isringhausen was kept around 70 here

Remember when Koch threw 93 innings and was never the same afterward? Foulke threw 87 and 83 in consecutive seasons and fell apart following those two years. What some relievers can handle is bound to be different than others, and Bailey used to start, but I think it’s a generally bad idea to make any relief pitcher consistently throw over about 75 innings tops on a routine basis.

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by Flashfire on Jun 28, 2010 3:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

Aaaand...

…if things hold steady the rest of the way Bailey will probably be around 65 IP this year. That’s better.

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by Flashfire on Jun 28, 2010 3:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

exactly

Flashfire always argues everything I write even though he’s made me change my mind like 1% of the time. Its just not worthwhile talking to him anymore…

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by PL78 on Jun 28, 2010 3:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

So, you're AD, aren't you

It took me awhile to figure out.

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by mikev on Jun 28, 2010 3:56 PM PDT up reply actions  

who?

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by PL78 on Jun 28, 2010 4:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

I mean I might have ADD, but Im not sure what you mean though

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by PL78 on Jun 28, 2010 4:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

I don't expect you to change your mind

Sometimes it’s worth showing where your logic is flawed, though.

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by Flashfire on Jun 28, 2010 4:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

which would be fine if it was

But you cant do that by making up imaginary WAR (a counting stat) “rates” to prove your point. It just doesnt work that way.

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by PL78 on Jun 28, 2010 4:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

It's close, though

There’s every reason to believe people like Soria and Feliz in particular would have a higher WAR than Bailey’s with the same amount of IP. Rivera certainly would. That Bailey did pitch those innings and the others didn’t is a credit to Bailey, but it’s also a negative in the sense the A’s probably overused him last year.

I know you don’t like people telling you you’re wrong about anything or daring to question the things you say, but I’m not the only one who’s done it and been right about it. You’ve been pretty off the mark about the Angels over the last few days, not to mention many other things. I’m not always right either, but you seem to have a real problem with it.

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by Flashfire on Jun 28, 2010 4:25 PM PDT up reply actions  

I only have a problem when you make up things to "prove me wrong"

Use facts & stats, I’ll happily admit Im wrong when I am. Im not here. Bailey is the best closer from April 09 to now, he has added 3 wins over a replacement level closer. Only Mariano is his equal. These are facts that cannot be argued. If you want to use park factors and K rates and babip or whatever, go ahead you might have a better argument.

I’m more than likely off about the Angels, because I loathe every fiber of that franchise an will never say anything good about them. I feel they were not a playoff team in 07-08 and even won money off betting against them in the playoffs. A good team shouldnt be as anemic and obviously not playoffs-contending as they were in that time, to the point where I bet on them being swept in 07. They were better in 09 though, so I held onto my money. They were only in the playoffs because of the weak div they played in.

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by PL78 on Jun 28, 2010 4:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

Well, for what it's worth on Bailey

Even though his ERA and ERA+ are slightly better this year (ERA+ might as well be equal) he’s allowing more baserunners, striking out less and his K/BB ratio is also down as a result of it. Seems he’s been more hittable in terms of the ball being put in play, so I hope he can get back to striking out 9+ per 9 innings. Other than that, his overall numbers are still very solid.

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by Flashfire on Jun 28, 2010 4:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

Those innings were over 9 months not 6 though.

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by PL78 on Jun 28, 2010 4:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yup.

If it weren’t for the every team represented rule, we’d have no one.

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by danmerqury on Jun 27, 2010 9:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

I think Cahill has the numbers right now Nico

Hell, match him up with Lincecum and you might be surprised at what you see……

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by mrod on Jun 27, 2010 9:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

Cahill has pitched great, but

he didn’t even start the season with the big league team and while he’s pitched great he doesn’t scream out “All Star!” to me — it’s not even clear where he is in the rotation’s depth chart. He’s kind of “#4…or 3…well gosh kind of 2…wow he keeps pitching really well!” Not exactly Ubaldo Jimenez.

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by Nico on Jun 27, 2010 9:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

agreed...... he's a freak!

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by mrod on Jun 27, 2010 9:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

Now, how ridiculous is it that he's FIFTH this year in WAR

behind Halladay, Lee, Liriano, and Josh Johnson?

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by mikev on Jun 27, 2010 9:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

Wha.

Seriously?

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by danmerqury on Jun 27, 2010 9:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

insane, right?

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by mikev on Jun 27, 2010 9:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

Oh crap, you're right.

Also, how is Cliff Lee second in the majors in WAR with three-quarters of the innings that Halladay has?

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by danmerqury on Jun 27, 2010 9:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

Jesus.

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She walks in the sun, to me.

by danmerqury on Jun 27, 2010 9:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

Mother of Pearl

"Their batters are patient to the point that it's annoying." -Ryan Franklin

by Helloooo 1st on Jun 27, 2010 10:49 PM PDT up reply actions  

Oh, man. That’s an image I thought I’d never see in my life again.

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by Rated-R Superstar on Jun 27, 2010 10:50 PM PDT up reply actions  

you've seen it before?

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by Future Ed on Jun 27, 2010 10:50 PM PDT up reply actions  

Well, I’ve seen her for sure.

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by Rated-R Superstar on Jun 27, 2010 10:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

I can't believe that show's still on.

I mean, it’s been what, ten years?

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by danmerqury on Jun 27, 2010 10:55 PM PDT up reply actions  

WHAT IS IT!?!

(follows link)

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by pam5981 on Jun 27, 2010 10:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

Spongebob

That’s the daughter of Mr. Krabbs, the owner of the Krusty Krab, the fast-food place where Spongebob and Squidward work. I think she’s a hammerhead shark.

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by Nick on Jun 28, 2010 9:30 AM PDT up reply actions  

Sorry, just looked it up and it turns out that Pearl Krabs is a sperm whale

My bad.

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by Nick on Jun 28, 2010 12:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

Sheesh.

You disappoint me, Nicholas.

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by pam5981 on Jun 28, 2010 12:25 PM PDT up reply actions  

My kids are 10 and 6

Spongebob has been on in my house for close to a decade, and I think it’s actually really funny.

And it’s so, so, so much better than Disney’s tween crap. I can barely sit in the same room as those shows. Nickelodeon is generally okay, however.

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by Nick on Jun 28, 2010 12:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

I don't know about Spongebob,

but I’m pretty up on my Dora.

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by pam5981 on Jun 28, 2010 12:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

Dora and Diego!

My son has recently been on a big Caillou kick the past few months.

by LoneStranger on Jun 28, 2010 12:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

I'm on the dora /diego/ kai lan tip

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by Future Ed on Jun 28, 2010 12:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

I've read "Superbebes" out loud so many times I am pretty sure I know it by heart.

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by pam5981 on Jun 28, 2010 12:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

OMG that's cute.

I’ll have to get the niece hooked on that instead.

The funny thing about baseball is that people will believe what they want to believe. -Joe Posnanski 8/29/09

by pam5981 on Jun 28, 2010 12:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

My 8yo niece and 4yo nephew

are all about Tintin. I guess our family loves the classics.

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by iglew on Jun 28, 2010 1:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

My 6-year-old son has read through my entire Asterix library

which is pretty extensive. He hasn’t gotten into the Tintins yet, and has only dabbled in the handful of Lucky Lukes I have (which is fine with me, really — it’s enough to have to explain Goscinny’s charicatured African pirate, without having to deal with everything in Lucky Luke). SOW, are they reading Tintin and the Blue Lotus, Tintin in America, etc?

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by Nick on Jun 28, 2010 2:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

I know Tintin in America is one of them.

That’s the one I was reading this weekend. But they’ve got a couple others. The nephew makes me read excerpts to him, but he jumps around and I don’t get continuity of story. The niece reads the entire books herself, over and over.

I have noticed some interesting personal stereotypes, both ethnic and otherwise. But they seem fairly benign to me.

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by iglew on Jun 28, 2010 3:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

is her "p" supposed to be backwards?

"The ego, the super-ego, and the Ed" - dannycakes

by Future Ed on Jun 28, 2010 12:28 PM PDT up reply actions  

I don't think so

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by Nick on Jun 28, 2010 12:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

Flipper

Does that make it a flipper pie?

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by Nick on Jun 28, 2010 12:53 PM PDT up reply actions  

awesome

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by iglew on Jun 28, 2010 1:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

"each"

The meaning of life is not so much 'found,' as it is 'made.' --Opus

by The Dogfather on Jun 28, 2010 2:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

A trip down memory lane for everyone

"Their batters are patient to the point that it's annoying." -Ryan Franklin

by Helloooo 1st on Jun 27, 2010 11:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

except me

"The ego, the super-ego, and the Ed" - dannycakes

by Future Ed on Jun 27, 2010 11:18 PM PDT up reply actions  

me too

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by pam5981 on Jun 27, 2010 11:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

your turn

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by cuppingmaster on Jun 27, 2010 11:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

I'm having a brain lapse.

All my boards feel stuck

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by pam5981 on Jun 28, 2010 12:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

You mean
A trip down memory lane for everyone [born between 1986 and 1994]

I actually don’t know what that thing is either, but I think we discussed one of these before. It was a character from a kids’ computer game, right?

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by iglew on Jun 28, 2010 2:16 AM PDT up reply actions  

What IS it?

(I now feel free to ask, as my 1965 birthdate apparently absolves me of the need to pretend to know.)

There is no "i" in Teamocil. At least not where you'd think.

by GreenNGoldSooner on Jun 28, 2010 5:48 AM PDT up reply actions  

Woo! 1965!

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by iglew on Jun 28, 2010 12:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

"Ubaldo kinda stands alone"

That’s cuz he throws the cheese.

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by Nick on Jun 28, 2010 9:28 AM PDT up reply actions  

Or cuz he cuts it

The fastball, that is.

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by Nico on Jun 28, 2010 9:35 AM PDT up reply actions  

Oh I know.....

I’m just looking at his stats and what he’s done while he has pitched this season….i mean he’s really looking like he could become a legit #2 starter and right now he’s our best starter.

"By the end of the year, I'll have Dallas throwing right-handed'' -Ben Sheets

by mrod on Jun 27, 2010 9:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

He's been terrific, no doubt

As good a choice for “A’s rep” as any.

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by Nico on Jun 27, 2010 9:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

He started the season on the DL though

A DL stint doesn’t (and shouldn’t) automatically disqualify a guy from making the team.

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by thejd44 on Jun 27, 2010 9:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

True -- I was looking at him not making the roster

because I think Gio won that spot. But you’re right that he was placed on the DL, not optioned to AAA.

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by Nico on Jun 27, 2010 9:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

he was optioned for 2 weeks

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by Future Ed on Jun 27, 2010 10:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

He's pitched fantastically, for sure.

But if you sort the AL SPs by ERA, you’ve got Cliff Lee, David Price, Clay Buchholz, Andy Pettitte, Jason Vargas, Jeff Niemann, Doug Fister (?!), Ricky Romero, AND THEN Trevor Cahill. There’d be no room for Trevor when you throw in the guys who need to be All Stars regardless of current ERA (Sabathia, Greinke, King Felix, Verlander, etc).

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by danmerqury on Jun 27, 2010 9:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

The All-Star game should be for guys who are having the best year

Not the guys who are actually the best players. Rewarding a guy in 2010 for what he did in 2006-2009 is silly (in the case of this particular exhibition).

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by thejd44 on Jun 27, 2010 9:25 PM PDT up reply actions  

No argument here,

but when has the All-Star Game ever been fair?

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by danmerqury on Jun 27, 2010 9:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

There was that time it ended with both teams having the same score and neither winning.

that’s about as fair as it gets.

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by mikev on Jun 27, 2010 9:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

Billy Beane needs to use his soccer experience

and suggest to Bud that they settle ties like that with a HR Derby.

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by Nick on Jun 28, 2010 9:34 AM PDT up reply actions  

Wait, shouldn't the All-Star game be for

the guys who happen to play on a team that doesn’t have any other All-Stars?

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by Nico on Jun 27, 2010 9:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

FTFY

Wait, shouldn’t the All-Star game be for the guys who happen to play on a team that doesn’t have any other All-Stars from New York or Boston?

"And Julio Franco is batting right-handed!" -- Wayne Hagin, A's radio play-by-play, mid-80s

by Nick on Jun 28, 2010 9:35 AM PDT up reply actions  

well yes that would be logical

but MLB doesnt do logical.

Best tweet today: “With that HR, Cano locks up the gold glove”

-Yeah, I just posted that, but my opinion is apparently "wrong" a significant portion of the time though, so take it as you will.

by PL78 on Jun 27, 2010 11:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

Bailey is lucky not to have more runs scored against him

I just hope they take it easy with him. Pitchers get overworked and are not the same. See Papelbon, See Lincecum who IMO should be shut down but since he’s a Giant, who cares.

Bailey is giving up more line drives, hits and less K’s. He’s a great pitcher I just see warning signs there. Last year was a big rise for him.

by Trainman on Jun 27, 2010 10:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

And plenty of water coolers, and pine tar rags...

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by Nico on Jun 27, 2010 10:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

Me too!

And Zooks, if by some small miracle he gets chosen.

"By the end of the year, I'll have Dallas throwing right-handed'' -Ben Sheets

by mrod on Jun 27, 2010 9:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

Just got home from the houston and rangers game

gosh they are awful even with oswalt on the mound

by buckfan6 on Jun 27, 2010 9:10 PM PDT reply actions  

Did Texas win again?

"By the end of the year, I'll have Dallas throwing right-handed'' -Ben Sheets

by mrod on Jun 27, 2010 9:11 PM PDT reply actions  

Ooh I know this one!

“What are the odds of a Bobby Crosby base hit, Alex?”

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by Nico on Jun 27, 2010 9:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

"I'll take a black hole that continues to widen for $10,000 Alex..."

"By the end of the year, I'll have Dallas throwing right-handed'' -Ben Sheets

by mrod on Jun 27, 2010 9:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

Fuckers!

"By the end of the year, I'll have Dallas throwing right-handed'' -Ben Sheets

by mrod on Jun 27, 2010 9:12 PM PDT reply actions  

Braden goes Tuesday, then again Sunday, so...

Won’t face the Yanks.

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by Nico on Jun 27, 2010 9:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

I'm good with that.

The funny thing about baseball is that people will believe what they want to believe. -Joe Posnanski 8/29/09

by pam5981 on Jun 27, 2010 11:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah

Maybe it will shut up some of the people who still want to see Braden get into it further with A-Rod.

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by Flashfire on Jun 27, 2010 11:18 PM PDT up reply actions  

All the Dodger fans left

because they were up. The Yankee fans stayed.

Joe Torre eats that loss. That was a disgrace. Bring in Broxton with a 5 run lead yesterday and a 4 run lead today. Then leaving him in when a 3yo could hit his stuff was a joke.

He had 17 two strikes on the hitters after getting Tex out and could not finish one of them off.

He hung about 5 sliders and his fastball got progressively worse as the inning went on. All this time Torre leaves him in. That was a total joke. 48 pitches after 19 yesterday both in non save situations.

by Trainman on Jun 27, 2010 10:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

When I saw Troncoso's and Sherrill's ERAs

I understood a bit better. But I agree that clearly Broxton didn’t have it — sometimes you just have to punt.

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by Nico on Jun 27, 2010 10:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

Sherrill has been bad this year as well

His FB is non existant. He threw a curve to Canoe and then a BP FB. Even though that was the first HR he gave up to a LHB in 160 chances. Canoe has 9 of them against LHP.

That is why Canoe is leading the AL.

by Trainman on Jun 27, 2010 10:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

Loney lost that game for them

On the one out play in the 9th, he stepped on 1st, THEN threw to the plate. That extra second plus a high throw to Martin allowed Granderson to score. If he throws to home first Dodgers probably win.

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by cuppingmaster on Jun 27, 2010 11:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

Didn’t he have a chance to go to second after stepping on first base?

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by Rated-R Superstar on Jun 27, 2010 11:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

I suppose he could have done that

Either way, Granderson can fly. You make the out an home, THEN you go for the next out if you can.

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by cuppingmaster on Jun 27, 2010 11:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

In that scenario, the run still scores

if Granderson crosses the plate before the tag is made. Loney needed to throw home, period, and they had Granderson dead to rights.

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by Nico on Jun 28, 2010 9:24 AM PDT up reply actions  

YAY INTERLEAGUE IS OVER.

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by pam5981 on Jun 27, 2010 9:13 PM PDT reply actions  

BUT THAT MEANS NO MORE GAMES AGAINST THE PIRATES.

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by mikev on Jun 27, 2010 9:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

The Orioles will have to do.

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by danmerqury on Jun 27, 2010 9:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

I think we go on a nine game win streak.

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by pam5981 on Jun 27, 2010 9:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

FINALLY.

As fun as it was watching Dallas bat, the novelty wore off about 2 ABs in. Plus, I’ll be thrilled if we never have to double switch the pitcher ever again.

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by danmerqury on Jun 27, 2010 9:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

Apparently you never HAVE to...

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by Nico on Jun 27, 2010 9:18 PM PDT up reply actions  

Hah.

If we actually make it that far, I’ll let Geren do as many switches as legally possible.

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by danmerqury on Jun 27, 2010 9:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

No it doesn't --

it could mean that Tyson Ross is pitching in Texas.

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by Nico on Jun 27, 2010 10:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

Correction

I’ll be thrilled if we never have to double switch the pitcher watch Geren manage ever again.

by TBRMKane on Jun 27, 2010 9:18 PM PDT up reply actions  

I wouldn't say evil.

It’s like giving a toddler a calculus textbook. Not evil, just…out of Geren’s depth.

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by danmerqury on Jun 27, 2010 9:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

OH YEAH and I got a Joe Rudi jersey today finally.

YAYAYAYA.

The funny thing about baseball is that people will believe what they want to believe. -Joe Posnanski 8/29/09

by pam5981 on Jun 27, 2010 9:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yay!

That’s awesome! It’ll go perfectly with your jacket.

by lynnzgal on Jun 27, 2010 9:53 PM PDT up reply actions  

Much skittle colors.

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by pam5981 on Jun 27, 2010 9:53 PM PDT up reply actions  

Taste the Rainbow! :-)

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by iglew on Jun 28, 2010 2:19 AM PDT up reply actions  

+∞

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by GreenNGoldSooner on Jun 27, 2010 10:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

I think Ziggy is being overused

Geren is using him like Wuertz last year. Ziggy’s gonna tire out really soon.

by TBRMKane on Jun 27, 2010 9:29 PM PDT reply actions  

Before today, Ziggy threw 13 pitches in four days.

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by danmerqury on Jun 27, 2010 9:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

And with his delivery he can pitch more often, longer, than most relievers.

I think his problem is mechanical. It looks to me like he’s coming too much by way of 3rd base and slinging pitches too much “right to left” (as you see from the CF camera angle). His best sinker goes down and in to RH hitters but recently he has thrown a lot of sinkers that just start outside to a RH hitter and stay flat.

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by Nico on Jun 27, 2010 9:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

I just hope he gets his act together soon

The A’s bullpen pretty much consists of 3 guys, with the other 4 untrusted by the manager.

by TBRMKane on Jun 27, 2010 9:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

Who am I missing:

Bailey, Breslow…?

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by Nico on Jun 27, 2010 9:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

Bowers!!!

Just kidding. I figured Ziggy would be part of the 3. Guess not now.

by TBRMKane on Jun 27, 2010 9:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

Honestly, right now I don't think he's any more reliable than Wuertz

He’s been really, really bad against LHs for 2 months, and lately he’s hasn’t been so hot against RHs either.

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by Nico on Jun 27, 2010 9:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

He's hit a very rough patch

Some time needs to be taken to correct it, because I think it is correctable at least as far as how he’s doing against righties.

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by Flashfire on Jun 27, 2010 9:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

I think fans need to be patient with Geren

when he uses Ziggy or Wuertz in a high leverage situation. They are good pitchers with good track records, and the A’s simply don’t have great options to go to after Bailey & Breslow. Sometimes you have to hope a good pitcher can revert back to being good — it’s more likely than a bad pitcher suddenly pitching well.

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by Nico on Jun 27, 2010 9:49 PM PDT up reply actions  

On the flip side, against a LH hitter

Ziggy right now is almost certain doom.

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by Nico on Jun 27, 2010 10:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

I still don't understand why

Bowers and Ross are still here.

There’s a reason why Bowers hasn’t been in the Majors since 2008 and Ross is…Ross.

Guys like Ross Wolf or Jon Hunton should be given a fair shot.

by TBRMKane on Jun 27, 2010 9:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

That's what I would have thought too, re: fatigue

But he disagreed in the interview I did with him:

FF: As you mention some of the injuries people like Wuertz and Devine have gone through, do you feel or notice anything different in terms of your own fatigue or is it different with you throwing from another angle?

ZIEGLER: I personally don’t think it’s any different. It’s different when you watch a fast-pitch softball pitcher. You see the girls that play fast-pitch softball can pitch every other day or every day and I think a lot of that has to do with when they bring their arm around to actually release the ball, they’re releasing it where their arm is parallel to the rest of their body, it’s a very natural motion.

When you walk down the street and your arm swings right by your side, just like where they’re releasing the ball, whereas if you take a snapshot of my delivery when I’m about to release the ball, I’m throwing exactly like I did when I was an overhand pitcher with the exception that I’m bending at the waist. But the position from the ball to my elbow to my shoulder in relation to the rest of my body is the exact same as it was when I was an overhand pitcher so I honestly don’t think my arm is reacting any differently than it did when I was an overhand pitcher.

I’ve just been fortunate to avoid injury so far and I feel like a lot of the work that I put in in the offseason has paid off in that respect, just knowing that I’m trying to prevent that from happening and I take pride in being able to go out and pitch almost every day and be able to last the whole season without going through some nagging stuff.

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by Flashfire on Jun 27, 2010 9:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah, but the "below the waist" submarine delivery

is known to be more natural, and less taxing, on the arm than throwing over-the-top. Do both motions without a ball and you can feel the difference.

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by Nico on Jun 27, 2010 9:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

Agreed

I was just a little surprised when he said it wasn’t that different for him. Visually it doesn’t look like the same angles to me, bent at the waist or not, but maybe his overhand motion was 3/4 or lower.

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by Flashfire on Jun 27, 2010 9:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

You can see it a bit when he warms up in the bullpen,

because initially he throws overhand.

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by Nico on Jun 27, 2010 9:50 PM PDT up reply actions  

And when he issues IBBs

like to Morneau

/cries in the corner

by TBRMKane on Jun 27, 2010 9:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

I LOVED yesterday's attendance.

So fun. I also love sweeps. Let’s have another!

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by baseballgirl on Jun 27, 2010 10:22 PM PDT reply actions  

TOTALLY

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by mikev on Jun 27, 2010 10:28 PM PDT up reply actions  

Def. We would have gotten BBG a fake stick on mustache, too.

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by pam5981 on Jun 27, 2010 10:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

Pirates are easily distracted

At today’s game, I sat in the RF bleachers. During Pit warm-ups, rather than shag balls for batting practice the Buc boys were facing the seats, whispering and pointing. I think they were looking to pillage some booty.

Dotel also seemed very attached to his wooden pitcher’s buddy.

"Sorry guys, I’m not going to try and hit (Douglas) Murray anymore. It doesn’t work." - Steve Ott, Dallas Stars.

by SwisherThresher on Jun 27, 2010 11:25 PM PDT reply actions  

Also want to add, I spiffed up my nails for 70's weekend



Took me forever to paint the A’s logo (had to get it just right!)

Huzzah SWEEEEP

"Sorry guys, I’m not going to try and hit (Douglas) Murray anymore. It doesn’t work." - Steve Ott, Dallas Stars.

by SwisherThresher on Jun 28, 2010 12:09 AM PDT reply actions   1 recs

that's some spiffy nail paint....fANdom is so much fun!

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by Berry Jo on Jun 28, 2010 12:13 AM PDT up reply actions  

I know, right!

I loved seeing everyone dressed up 70’s style and or rockin’ the Rudi gold. Good times!

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by SwisherThresher on Jun 28, 2010 12:18 AM PDT up reply actions  

holy crap that's awesome

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by Future Ed on Jun 28, 2010 12:23 AM PDT up reply actions  

that's impressive, ST

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by cuppingmaster on Jun 28, 2010 12:26 AM PDT up reply actions  

Many many years ago,

my sister used to paint the letters G-O-M-A-R – I-N-E-R-S on her 10 fingernails.

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by iglew on Jun 28, 2010 2:21 AM PDT up reply actions  

and I thought to myself

who is Gomar? what position did he play?

alaska A residing in northern Idaho.

by ak_A on Jun 28, 2010 5:59 AM PDT up reply actions  

um... you have nice hands.

was that weird?

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by mikev on Jun 28, 2010 7:36 AM PDT up reply actions  

It can’t be as weird as telling someone that they have nice toes.

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by Rated-R Superstar on Jun 28, 2010 10:02 AM PDT up reply actions  

Megan Fox's thumbs say hi.

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by iglew on Jun 28, 2010 12:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

That is really freaking impressive.

That logo looks damn near perfect.

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by pam5981 on Jun 28, 2010 8:09 AM PDT up reply actions  

Here's what annoys me about the Pirates:

They’re also called the “Bucs”. I mean, yeah, I figured it out long ago so I know who you’re talking about, but it still irritates me every time I hear it. I always think, “huh? Bucs? who are the Bucs? Oh, you mean the Pirates.”

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by iglew on Jun 28, 2010 2:23 AM PDT reply actions  

I actually like that about them.

Baseball has a number of these not-linguistically-related (but often conceptually-related) nicknames:

The Tribe
The Palehose
The Red Birds
The Bronx Bombers

There are probably more that I’m not thinking of.

Such names aren’t unique to baseball (the NHL’s Canadiens have the Mother-Of-All-Such-Nicknames: the Habs), but I’ve always thought they’re a cool aspect of the sport.

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by GreenNGoldSooner on Jun 28, 2010 6:53 AM PDT up reply actions  

more, but maybe less commonly used

The Twinkies
The Fish
The Snakes

"Do I talk to myself? No, I just remind myself of what I'm trying to do. You know, I never answer myself so how can I be talking to myself?" - Rickey

Athletics Nation - WE'RE ALL GONNA MRIIIIIIIIIIIII!!!!! - danmerqury

by cuppingmaster on Jun 28, 2010 7:09 AM PDT up reply actions  

The Bucs and the Habs are also beloved of headline writers

It's the fans that make the game fun. -- Rickey Henderson, July 26, 2009.

by Englishmajor on Jun 28, 2010 9:14 AM PDT up reply actions  

Especially when you can write stuff like this

“The Bucs stop here”
“Habs and Habs not”

Last of the Ninth - Photography

by Flashfire on Jun 28, 2010 10:43 AM PDT up reply actions  

Hmm, you make a good case.

I might just come around on this question after all.

Now I’ll have to have the Pirates for their colors. Black and gold, blecch.

There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, Than are dreamt of in your philosophy.

by iglew on Jun 28, 2010 12:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

I'm easily amused


doh

"Sorry guys, I’m not going to try and hit (Douglas) Murray anymore. It doesn’t work." - Steve Ott, Dallas Stars.

by SwisherThresher on Jun 28, 2010 2:53 AM PDT reply actions  

definitely not more control.

"The ego, the super-ego, and the Ed" - dannycakes

by Future Ed on Jun 28, 2010 7:26 AM PDT up reply actions  

great screen cap

The funny thing about baseball is that people will believe what they want to believe. -Joe Posnanski 8/29/09

by pam5981 on Jun 28, 2010 8:10 AM PDT up reply actions  

Aaaaaaaaargh!

Apparently finding a worthwhile job is the hardest thing in the world.

"You see, in this world there's two kinds of people, my friend: Those with loaded guns and those who dig. You dig."

by OldhamA on Jun 28, 2010 8:17 AM PDT reply actions  

I posted this is Saturdays thread just now, but I'm not sure who will see it so I will post her as well.
So I was sitting in 105 with my Wife, Dad, and Sister and I look over to 106 I thought, "hey isn’t that 67MARQUEZ, mikev, and Nico"? I have only seen them in pics on the internet but I was fairly certain it was them. So I decided that if I got up to get something I would ask the group if they were from AN. So when I decided to go find $2 malts I asked the section, "Hey are you guys from Athletics Nation?". I was met with a hearty cheer :-)
   I introduced myself as micdog2001 and gave a couple high fives and handshakes. It was nice to meet you all, but I can only remember 67, mike, and optimusprime. Who else was there? I think Nico was gone when I walked by and the lady with the tamborine wasn’t there either.

Is it weird to blockquote myself?

You have to include smiley faces - Poppy
;- ) :- ) :-O : -> : -] : -}

by micdog2001 on Jun 28, 2010 12:53 PM PDT reply actions  

Yes.

But I like it. And, AW, great story and bummed I missed you as I wasn’t with the group. But you’ll be at the Public House Thursday right?

The funny thing about baseball is that people will believe what they want to believe. -Joe Posnanski 8/29/09

by pam5981 on Jun 28, 2010 12:56 PM PDT up reply actions  

uh, no

I can’t make it. But in a strange twist I will be at the Giants game Wednesday because of a mandatory company picnic. Too bad it isn’t the A’s but free food and baseball is nothing to sneeze at.

You have to include smiley faces - Poppy
;- ) :- ) :-O : -> : -] : -}

by micdog2001 on Jun 28, 2010 12:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

bummer! terrible timing, corporate overlords.

The funny thing about baseball is that people will believe what they want to believe. -Joe Posnanski 8/29/09

by pam5981 on Jun 28, 2010 12:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

Unless the food has lots of pepper on it.

There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, Than are dreamt of in your philosophy.

by iglew on Jun 28, 2010 1:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

LOL

you’re right.

You have to include smiley faces - Poppy
;- ) :- ) :-O : -> : -] : -}

by micdog2001 on Jun 28, 2010 1:49 PM PDT up reply actions  

I guess it has to be said a day later

After the events at the end of yesterday’s game, Meek shall inherit the loss.

Last of the Ninth - Photography

by Flashfire on Jun 28, 2010 1:45 PM PDT reply actions  

NEW THREAD UP

Last one there is a rotten egg Patterson.

I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal

by Nico on Jun 28, 2010 1:49 PM PDT reply actions  

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