Listless A's Lose Pitchers "Duel" (0-3)
by danmerqury on Apr 13, 2010 10:02 PM PDT
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PrintWhile his final line doesn't really show it, Anderson didn't have his best stuff on display tonight. He left several breaking balls up high, and his location and control were off all night. Fister was only marginally better, hanging several curveballs that wouldn't have fooled many hitters.
But alas, this was a game that featured two of the worst offenses in the American League. Anderson ended up turning in a stellar-looking 6 IP 0 ER 6K line, while Fister shined even greater, allowing 3 hits in 8 innings of work, walking none, and striking out 4. Obviously, the magic pixie voodoo dust sprinkled on the basepaths by the dancing Seattle groundscrew worked wonders.
Perhaps this game was more a story of two offenses shooting themselves in the foot over and over again. In the bottom of the 4th inning, Milton Bradley doubled with one out, putting a man on second and third for the next batter, Casey Kotchman. Brett Anderson responded by striking out the next two batters to end the inning. The Mariners again killed another rally in the bottom of the 7th after Chone Figgins doubled. In one of the wackiest plays I've seen in years, Brad Ziegler uncorked a wild pitch. Kurt Suzuki flipped over backwards to his right to snag the pitch, followed by an immediate throw to third base. Figgins was beaten to third by the ball, fairly easily. One has to wonder how a speedy guy like Figgins could possibly be thrown out by a catcher who had to spin a full clumsy circle before throwing.
Of course, pitchers duels have to come to an end sometime, and this one was blown open in the bottom of the 8th. Brad Ziegler clearly didn't have any control or pitch movement tonight, and it showed. After opening up the inning with a single and a walk, he grooved a low fastball to Milton Bradley, who parked it in the right field seats for a three-run homer. That was all the offense Seattle needed tonight, as that home run plated the only runs of the game.
We're gonna have a fifth starter battle tomorrow night, as we wrap up this series with a rubber game, starting at 7:10 PM.
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3 game series vs Mariners @ SAFECO Field
| Mon 04/12 | WP: Justin Duchscherer (1 - 0) LP: Ryan Rowland-Smith (0 - 1) |
4 - 0 win |
| Tue 04/13 | WP: Doug Fister (1 - 1) SV: David Aardsma LP: Brad Ziegler (0 - 2) |
0 - 3 loss |
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Oakland Athletics Wednesday, Apr 14, 2010, 7:10 PM PDT Partly cloudy. Winds blowing in from left field at 5-10 m.p.h. Game time temperature around 50. |
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I say toMAYto
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
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by Hit4TheCycle on Apr 13, 2010 10:05 PM PDT up reply actions
didn't hear the game
between a meeting and getting the kids to bed, but….
this is the A’s that I expected this year. No offense, good pitching and questionable bullpen decisions.
It sounds like it was exciting at least.
"The ego, the super-ego, and the Ed" - danmerqury
I know, right?
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by Rated-R Superstar on Apr 13, 2010 10:08 PM PDT up reply actions
I remember attending one of the A's Giants games that featured the debut of Octavio
I think it was a tie game, or he blew a save, then the A’s won in extras.
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by Hit4TheCycle on Apr 13, 2010 10:09 PM PDT up reply actions
he struck out the batter and ended the inning
in the next inning he blew the save, but the A’s won in extras.
I was there!
It looks like he may blow it here.
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by Rated-R Superstar on Apr 13, 2010 10:12 PM PDT up reply actions
Not quite a Dotel Save
Unless it’s a one-run game, and it ends on some ridiculous defensive play.
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by Hit4TheCycle on Apr 13, 2010 10:15 PM PDT up reply actions
I pride myself on being (or at least trying to be) a halfway reasonable fan
Not getting swayed by the overwhelming highs or the unbearable lows. But simply put: 8 scoreless innings against Doug Fister is unacceptable. The rubber match tomorrow should be interesting. Hopefully, Gio’s bringing his A++ game.
Side note to danmerqury, whom I failed to reply to earlier in the evening— Conan’s show was flat-out great. Exactly what you would expect out of him— that almost old-timey variety show mix of comedy and music. I enjoyed myself immensely. The fact that the man couldn’t be disingenuous if there was a gun to his head made the show all the more excellent.
"Smokey, this be not the foul jungles of the darkest East Orient. This be ninepins. We are bound by laws."
I assume/hope you mean Conan and not Gio Gonzalez
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Burton Guster: Hello!
Shawn Spencer: We were turned around-- discombobulated! We... we just now realized we're in restricted waters.
Burton Guster: Just now! And we both have hepatitis!
Yeah, man
I have to say, I’ve watched Conan since middle school (roughly 14 years or so). There were a few times where he went off-script that felt very rewarding as a fan— not only in terms of it being funny, but in terms of feeling like I was getting insight as well. I didn’t laugh myself into hysterics like when I saw Dave Chappelle’s first standup special (not live, I should point out, but on DVD), but I came away feeling very satisfied.
"Smokey, this be not the foul jungles of the darkest East Orient. This be ninepins. We are bound by laws."
it is unacceptable
I wouldn’t expect this lineup to score against lenny dinardo. its a bad lineup. so may as well get used to it and be happy that the A’s are 6-3. Better teams await,and I expect it will get worse.
"The ego, the super-ego, and the Ed" - danmerqury
And worse teams await, just handle the AL West and we are good
"I get nervous every fifth day," Braden said. "I figure the day that goes away is the day I saddle up behind the 7-Eleven desk."
Sounds very, very cool.
Were all the old friends around? Andy, Max?
I’m guessing he couldn’t use his old characters, as they’re “intellectual” property.
Sundown dazzling day, gold through my eyes.
But my eyes, turned within, only see
starless and bible black.
Andy was present, Max was not
I won’t spoil surprises, but suffice to say, the property may not be intellectual, but it is apparently Conan’s.
"Smokey, this be not the foul jungles of the darkest East Orient. This be ninepins. We are bound by laws."
That's a shocker.
I figured NBC would keep a tight leash on his characters. Great news, though! Thanks.
Sundown dazzling day, gold through my eyes.
But my eyes, turned within, only see
starless and bible black.
Eric Chavez and Travis Buck should not be in the lineup tomorrow. Also, Ryan Sweeney needs to hit lower in the order especially with Vargas being a left-handed pitcher.
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by Rated-R Superstar on Apr 13, 2010 10:13 PM PDT reply actions
Oops.
You put an extra “tomorrow” in there.
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Hahahaha
QOTM
"Oh who am I kidding? The A's and Giants could stage a pillow fight, and I'd still care who wins." -67Marquez
by baseballgirl on Apr 14, 2010 10:24 AM PDT up reply actions
What the hell happened to Buck?
He looked so good a few years ago.
He steps to the left, he steps to the riiiiiiight. That Amos Roberts, he'll make you look shite!
He still looks good
What I want to know is why he can’t hit a baseball.
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
Rimshot.
The ball used to jump off his bat, now it dribbles off it. It’s bizarre how much he’s changed.
He steps to the left, he steps to the riiiiiiight. That Amos Roberts, he'll make you look shite!
34827340 different injuries?
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Burton Guster: Just now! And we both have hepatitis!
Agreed
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by stranahanahan on Apr 13, 2010 10:29 PM PDT up reply actions
E-Pat
I’d still like to see Patterson get a chance to start a few games. I have no doubt that he’s a better offensive player than Buck or Chavez. He’s been our best offensive player at AAA for the last two seasons, outproducing Barton, Buck, Pennington, and Powell. Even his 2009 major league stats are better than all of them. I think he deserves a shot.
Patterson gets another start today
But it’s against a LHP again. Gross starts over Sweeney, and Ellis still out.
Ziggy, Ziggy, Ziggy
This one’s on you. He shouldn’t be pitching against any semi-dangerous left-handed batters anytime soon. Was Gaudin not ready? Oh well, bring on Wednesday.
I think it’s on the offense.
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by Rated-R Superstar on Apr 13, 2010 10:18 PM PDT up reply actions
I dunno, man (man, right?)
That looked like a reasonably good pitch. Low, inside. Bradley just golfed it and got the fat part of the bat on the ball.
Ziggy’s other pitches… well, it looked like he had a hard time finding the strike zone. But that toss that ended up as a homer, I didn’t have too much trouble with that one.
"Smokey, this be not the foul jungles of the darkest East Orient. This be ninepins. We are bound by laws."
it doesn't matter about the pitch
Brad has problems with lefties. in cases like this, all things being equal, he should not be in there.
As for the pitch, lefties, as a general rule, like the low and inside pitch.
"The ego, the super-ego, and the Ed" - danmerqury
Fair enough
"Smokey, this be not the foul jungles of the darkest East Orient. This be ninepins. We are bound by laws."
I hate to call out Geren on Bullpen calls
because we as fans can’t know what bullpen arms are actually available. And Bradley is a switch hitter. So don;t get me wrong, I am not really complaining, but I do wonder why Zeigler was still pitching there.
"The ego, the super-ego, and the Ed" - danmerqury
Since Ziegler was struggling before the left-handed power hitter came up, I would have pulled him for Gaudin.
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by Rated-R Superstar on Apr 13, 2010 10:48 PM PDT up reply actions
Yeah, my thought
Ziegler has certain limitations, and it’s obvious he’d reached them in the inning. I think it was likely someone would score, but I could smell the home run long before the ball left his hand.
It wasn't where Suzuki called for it, though
He said he lost his command when he came back out for the 8th.
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Economics in action!
What we have here is a textbook example of something called a sunk cost dilemma
While the project progresses towards disaster, the decision not to go on with the project gets more and more unlikely. The project is like a train: once it has been put on a track, it is very difficult to change its direction.
But in the end, the overall payoff of the project is negative.
Now does this “project” sound like something (or someone) familiar?
"We were shit, pathetic," Guillen growled early in spring training. "We hit too many home runs."
Hey, at least something came of this game:
Anderson put up a great line even on an off night, and Suzuki made what has to have been the most athletic play by a catcher that I’ve ever seen.
On the other hand, uh, I don’t think the A’s will be leading the AL in runs per game anymore very soon.
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Burton Guster: Hello!
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Burton Guster: Just now! And we both have hepatitis!
Yeah Anderson is impressing the heck out of me.
He’s going to be an absolute superstar. It’s arguable he’s worth Haren all on his own, nevermind the other players we got in that deal.
He steps to the left, he steps to the riiiiiiight. That Amos Roberts, he'll make you look shite!
I was thinking about this the other day
It’s possible that he’s already as good as Haren — Haren is still really good, but Anderson is already damn good too. So it’s like we lost Haren for 2 seasons, and got…everyone else from that trade for free.
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
We owe them, so can we give them Travis Buck for free? They only have to pay shipping and handling, so that’s like Justin Upton.
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by Rated-R Superstar on Apr 13, 2010 10:28 PM PDT up reply actions
I wouldn't go quite that far (yet)
but is Anderson going to be as good as Haren was at some point? Absolutely. I’d put pretty good odds that Anderson puts up the same WAR that Haren did as an A. Everything else? Just gravy.
Sundown dazzling day, gold through my eyes.
But my eyes, turned within, only see
starless and bible black.
I love Haren and think he's still a great pitcher
But I won’t be stunned if Anderson puts up equal numbers this year.
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
No, I wouldn't be stunned either.
He’s a remarkable talent. And only 22! If Beane signs anybody long term, it had better be Anderson.
Sundown dazzling day, gold through my eyes.
But my eyes, turned within, only see
starless and bible black.
I can imagine those negotiations:
“Ok, Billy, but you’re going to get me some offence, right?”
He steps to the left, he steps to the riiiiiiight. That Amos Roberts, he'll make you look shite!
Anderson'
"Smokey, this be not the foul jungles of the darkest East Orient. This be ninepins. We are bound by laws."
s got to have the clipped British accent to go along with "offence," too, right?
I can dig it.
"Smokey, this be not the foul jungles of the darkest East Orient. This be ninepins. We are bound by laws."
If not I can negotiate for him.
I could retire on my 10% cut.
He steps to the left, he steps to the riiiiiiight. That Amos Roberts, he'll make you look shite!
I love Anderson
I’m with you as far as thinking that the A’s have already gotten the better end of that deal. But Haren’s one of the few guys (Swisher’s another one) that I ache to see in green and gold again. I suppose as a heterosexual man that it’s a little weird to experience an aching sensation when seeing another man, but dammit, it’s true.
"Smokey, this be not the foul jungles of the darkest East Orient. This be ninepins. We are bound by laws."
Haren. Swisher. Chavez (in ye olden days).
That aching sensation isn’t unique.
Sundown dazzling day, gold through my eyes.
But my eyes, turned within, only see
starless and bible black.
Yeah I loved Haren too.
He steps to the left, he steps to the riiiiiiight. That Amos Roberts, he'll make you look shite!
If Anderson is at or near to Haren, who do you think Gio is at or near, if he keeps his sh-t together for another 20+ starts?
His stuff is pretty brutal, when it is working, which it seems to be so far this year!
A Ballade [for the Angels Fan], by Eustache Deschamps: "We are cowardly, ill-formed and weak / Aged, envious and evil-spoken. / I see only fools and sots / Truly the end is nigh / All goes ill."
Gio = Scary Zito
5-6 Innings, 100+ pitches, 5 BB’s, 5 K’s. Zito actually had more control, he just wasn’t FITZ. Gio can actually be a little bit more FITZ than Zito, but I’m not sure Gio knows exactly where the ball is going each and every time. Kinda scary, but Kinda fun.
by Colorado Fan on Apr 14, 2010 7:29 AM PDT up reply actions
Gio is fun.
I don’t like scariness in movies nor amusement park rides, but I love scariness in baseball.
There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, Than are dreamt of in your philosophy.
And the latest we've "trailed for good" all season is still the bottom of the 8th.
That’s a pretty good sign.
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
First loss of more than 1 run
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by stranahanahan on Apr 13, 2010 10:31 PM PDT up reply actions
Sadly, no...
lost the opener 5-3.
What is both surprising and delightful is that spectators are allowed, and even expected, to join in the vocal part of the game.... There is no reason why the field should not try to put the batsman off his stroke at the critical moment by neatly timed disparagements of his wife's fidelity and his mother's respectability. ~George Bernard Shaw
Whoops
Then 2 runs
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by stranahanahan on Apr 14, 2010 8:48 AM PDT up reply actions
The starting pitching isn't going to be the issue this year.
If we had a power threat at DH I could see us running for the division.
He steps to the left, he steps to the riiiiiiight. That Amos Roberts, he'll make you look shite!
Is there anyone we can trade for?
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by Rated-R Superstar on Apr 13, 2010 10:45 PM PDT up reply actions
I heard that Jack Cust was DFA'ed by his team.
There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, Than are dreamt of in your philosophy.
seriously though
I don’t want to see the A’s trade any real talent for anything this year.
"The ego, the super-ego, and the Ed" - danmerqury
Maybe we can acquire Jose Guillen or Carlos Lee at the deadline if we’re seriously in contention for the division crown.
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by Rated-R Superstar on Apr 13, 2010 10:51 PM PDT up reply actions
I don't want to see the A's trade any real talent for rentals ever
Those are such piss-poor deals— they’re like the sports equivalent of those payday lending stores.
Shawn Spencer: Ahoy there! Um, yes. Right! My name is Shawn Spencer! This is my first mate Hummingbird Saltalamacchia!
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Burton Guster: Just now! And we both have hepatitis!
Um...
even still, they’re horrible deals. If anything, they’re just an act of desperation from someone with no alternative.
Leopold Bloom on why he loves Mr. Peter Gammons, his best buddy:
"Peter Gammons systematically ignored and/or ran down the A’s in the pages of Sports Illustrated and The Sporting News for a good ten year stretch in the late seventies and early to mid-eighties. Trust me, the c**ksucker hates our team."
like everything in this world, there's a responsible way to use it and an irresponsible way.
you can either pay $15 per $100 for a payday loan or you can almost 3x that for a bounced check on average bounced check.
i’m not saying it’s good, but people use payday lending responsibly all the time.
its only the abuses that get reported, as they should
There is no way to use payday lending that does not require the person using it
to be either utterly destitute or a complete imbecile.
Shawn Spencer: Ahoy there! Um, yes. Right! My name is Shawn Spencer! This is my first mate Hummingbird Saltalamacchia!
Burton Guster: Hello!
Shawn Spencer: We were turned around-- discombobulated! We... we just now realized we're in restricted waters.
Burton Guster: Just now! And we both have hepatitis!
u know baseball better than i.
but i know global financial services better than most. the new york fed has written extensively on the subject acutally. very heavily used by college graduates as a cash mgmt tool. it’s smarter than using a credit card or incurring an nsf/od charge.
the average income of a user of their services would surprise you. more people live paycheck to paycheck than you realize in this country.
can we hear from all the cust haters and "give chavez more time" folks now?
A's v Giants "is kind of like the difference between going to see the Ramones and going to see the Bee Gees. A's fans will go see the Ramones."
-BB 07/27/05
He won’t make it that far.
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by Rated-R Superstar on Apr 13, 2010 10:26 PM PDT up reply actions
Give Chavez more time
There i said it… But i also like Cust, so whaddayagonnado? I’d like to give Chavy another month.
Hi ho.
You read it wrong
We’re all saying “give Chavez more phine.”
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
Or more pine?
He steps to the left, he steps to the riiiiiiight. That Amos Roberts, he'll make you look shite!
rim shot!
The funny thing about baseball is that people will believe what they want to believe. -Joe Posnanski 8/29/09
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Sundown dazzling day, gold through my eyes.
But my eyes, turned within, only see
starless and bible black.
love that!
The funny thing about baseball is that people will believe what they want to believe. -Joe Posnanski 8/29/09
How about Cust in LF
And Chavy’s circa-‘04 defense at 3rd? No? That’s not possible?
"Smokey, this be not the foul jungles of the darkest East Orient. This be ninepins. We are bound by laws."
I think the problem right now with Chavy is
that he’s trying to be too fine. He needs to be a bit more fearless in the zone. And hungry.
Hi ho.
I think the problem is that he’s not good anymore.
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by Rated-R Superstar on Apr 13, 2010 10:28 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Rec'd for occams razor win.
"We were shit, pathetic," Guillen growled early in spring training. "We hit too many home runs."
by lenscrafters on Apr 13, 2010 10:29 PM PDT up reply actions
I don’t know what that is!
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by Rated-R Superstar on Apr 13, 2010 10:29 PM PDT up reply actions
The simplest explanation is usually the most correct.
Sundown dazzling day, gold through my eyes.
But my eyes, turned within, only see
starless and bible black.
I say
Let’s hope Crisp comes back and Buck goes down.
The Twin Towers come up in June or July (If ready)
And Chavez either starts hitting or goes on the DL. Soon for either.
I don't know
Team has a head so deep in the sand when it comes to Chavez I wouldn’t be surprised he continues like this for the rest of the year and still is a regular DH if he can stay healthy. I’ve been wondering, who many players in this organization could outproduce him from the DH spot right now? Probably every bench player except maybe Rosales, and few guys in Sacramento for sure – Cust, Carter, Taylor, probably McPherson (he can hit it out every now and then at least). Jai Miller? Matt Carson?
Maybe if he wrote it under the brim of his cap?
will crosby spread his legs so far apart at bat that the games will have to be rated nc-17 -- emperor nobody
Oh, so he's being the equivalent of a hitting Zito?
Pretty close to that, actually.
Last of the Ninth - Photography
This shocked me.
According to Susan Slusser (by way of A’s PR guy Mike Selleck)
Among pitchers who started the season with the #Athletics, Anderson is 1st in Oakl. history to not allow a run over his first two starts.
Really?
Sundown dazzling day, gold through my eyes.
But my eyes, turned within, only see
starless and bible black.
Just because losses like this one hurt me more than most:
NSFW, just in case.
"Smokey, this be not the foul jungles of the darkest East Orient. This be ninepins. We are bound by laws."
Dangit!
They should try McPherson out at some point. He’s got 11 RBI’s already.
by duballers23 on Apr 13, 2010 10:56 PM PDT up reply actions
Fox has to clear waivers to be sent down, right?
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by Rated-R Superstar on Apr 13, 2010 10:58 PM PDT up reply actions
yes
and the only replacement for him is Powell, which doesn’t help the offense
"The ego, the super-ego, and the Ed" - danmerqury
I see by your
handle you won’t like my suggestion of DFAing Patterson and optioning Buck in favor of Cust and Powell. Then when Crisp come back, Powell back down till there is another breakdown.\
Seriously, if patterson is not going to be used at second with ellis out, what good is he?
"The ego, the super-ego, and the Ed" - danmerqury
+1
I agree with this… I’m a Buck-backer, too. Buck should be the one getting AB’s in AAA. Patterson is pretty worthless to this team with Adam Rosales willing and able to play every position better than E. Patt.
I would be willing to bet that E.Patt would clear waivers, too.
Fox needs to start producing vs. Lefties. That’s why he’s on the 25-Man, correct?
by Colorado Fan on Apr 14, 2010 7:41 AM PDT up reply actions
RsBI are a bad measure
A wet rag on the rivercats would be expected to have 11 RsBI by now.
"The ego, the super-ego, and the Ed" - danmerqury
once you are on the 15 day
you can come back whenever, you don’t need to be back after the 2 weeks, no?
"The ego, the super-ego, and the Ed" - danmerqury
Is the Suzuki highlight on the web anywhere?
I can’t seem to find it on MLB.com
"Do I talk to myself? No, I just remind myself of what I'm trying to do. You know, I never answer myself so how can I be talking to myself?" - Rickey
Everything is better with bacon.
I was just looking for it
Also can’t find it.
will crosby spread his legs so far apart at bat that the games will have to be rated nc-17 -- emperor nobody
Just saw it again on the news.
That was hot.
The funny thing about baseball is that people will believe what they want to believe. -Joe Posnanski 8/29/09
BTW - it's in the web gems montage on ESPN.
#3!
It’s way better than the #1 play.
The funny thing about baseball is that people will believe what they want to believe. -Joe Posnanski 8/29/09
OMG
I just watched that and I see why KenKo was saying that Fosse was unavailable for comment because Ray had fallen out of the booth to the stands below.
Hey, I just bought the team from Lew Wolff... who wants to play third?
by emperor nobody on Apr 14, 2010 12:26 AM PDT up reply actions
I hadn't heard the KenKo comment. That's hilarious.
There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, Than are dreamt of in your philosophy.
Jermaine Dye is like Eric Chavez, except black, even older, and with a much more inflated sense of self-worth
Neither of them is worth a damn as a baseball player anymore.
Shawn Spencer: Ahoy there! Um, yes. Right! My name is Shawn Spencer! This is my first mate Hummingbird Saltalamacchia!
Burton Guster: Hello!
Shawn Spencer: We were turned around-- discombobulated! We... we just now realized we're in restricted waters.
Burton Guster: Just now! And we both have hepatitis!
Dye hit 27 homers last year with 81 RBI's
That’s way better than what Jake Fox is doing.
by duballers23 on Apr 14, 2010 12:33 AM PDT up reply actions
and yet he had a negative WAR
dye’s second half OPS was below .600
A's v Giants "is kind of like the difference between going to see the Ramones and going to see the Bee Gees. A's fans will go see the Ramones."
-BB 07/27/05
Holy crap, he did?
Wow. No wonder he’s unemployed. I’ve heard rumblings of the MLBPA filing a collusion grievance.
Sundown dazzling day, gold through my eyes.
But my eyes, turned within, only see
starless and bible black.
seriously
let’s worry about his 2nd half OPS in the 2nd half… it’s gonna be better and certainly more intimidating that Fox and his .000 OPS of right now, which shows no signs of improving.
Hey, I just bought the team from Lew Wolff... who wants to play third?
by emperor nobody on Apr 14, 2010 1:23 AM PDT up reply actions
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A's v Giants "is kind of like the difference between going to see the Ramones and going to see the Bee Gees. A's fans will go see the Ramones."
-BB 07/27/05
can somebody explain "collusion" to me?
it seems like there are some veterans who are demanding higher salaries than owners think they are worth, so nobody can come to any agreements. pretty simple situation where 2 sides can’t come to an agreement. and players/agents are trying to say there are rules being broken here? is there a rule that says once you’ve had 1 MLB contract, you’re entitled to MLB contracts until you decide to retire?
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KenKo: Oh yeah, Bill? What's he smokin'?
No
Their “beef” is that the owners are acting in concert in setting a price point for the player and in even worst cases sharing what they’ve offered. By doing so, they drive down the price of the player because they know what his true worth is amongst other teams. If the best he’s been offered is $5 and he’s demanding $10, no team’s going to offer him that since they know offering him $5.5 is the best deal on the table.
Leopold Bloom on why he loves Mr. Peter Gammons, his best buddy:
"Peter Gammons systematically ignored and/or ran down the A’s in the pages of Sports Illustrated and The Sporting News for a good ten year stretch in the late seventies and early to mid-eighties. Trust me, the c**ksucker hates our team."
ha
but it’s ok for scott boras to make BS comments to the media about additional teams making offers to his clients so he can drive the bids up.
the owners are greedy bastards, but the players/agents are real a$$holes when it comes to this stuff sometimes too.
BK: This guy is on fire, he is really smokin'.
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Antitrust law is not "fair" in the sense that it's not balanced between the parties
However, the unfairness is deliberately built into the law as a policy judgment to check the influence of businesses’ bargaining power.
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that makes sense
it is far more likely that the owners’ side is the one that would need to be reined in.
this is a case, though, where the ends come realllly close to justifying the means. older not-so-good-anymore players have been getting overpaid for quite a few years. it’s somewhat refreshing to see some of these guys not get overpaid. then again, the owners (some of the owners) are the idiots who showed no restraint in the past and got themselves into this situation.
it’s a shame that wealth doesn’t correlate more closely to intelligence and sound judgement. for one thing, the non-correlation is going to keep leading pro sports owners to making uncountable shitty deals with players, coaches, etc., and it’s also just frustrating to see a dimwit get rich while plenty of really capable people are barely getting by.
BK: This guy is on fire, he is really smokin'.
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Honestly
I don’t even believe Bonds. Mid-40s, injury ridden, likely full of PEDs and possible legal issues and he can’t play in the outfield and be worth anything. There’d be very few teams with a spot for him and none with a need of that kind of gamble.
Leopold Bloom on why he loves Mr. Peter Gammons, his best buddy:
"Peter Gammons systematically ignored and/or ran down the A’s in the pages of Sports Illustrated and The Sporting News for a good ten year stretch in the late seventies and early to mid-eighties. Trust me, the c**ksucker hates our team."
Bonds today, yeah there is no market
but bonds 2 years ago?
I don’t see the legal trouble as being much of a problem. The feds got very little of a case. Plus the grand jury questions were awful from an english comprehension point of view. It was really bad.
"The ego, the super-ego, and the Ed" - danmerqury
The owners are conspiring with one another
to not pay millions of dollars to players who suck. Can’t have that.
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I just puked up a little in my mouth
when I just watched the Yanks get their rings on mlb.com.
Bring back McGwire and Canseco, that would solve everything
we got Fisted...
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If Jack Cust is the answer to our prayers
how come nobody else wants him?
I’m not a Cust-hater — it seemed odd that Beane would risk losing him, and he is our best power hitter … I’m just wondering why no other team in the major leagues picked him up off waivers.
Are we so bad offensively that our “best” hitter cleared waivers without so much as a nibble?
I needed a team so I wouldn’t turn into one of the eighty million pink hat-wearing Bud Light-drinking mulleted idiots at Fenway.
JC
My reasoning: #1 – He can’t play the field, so all NL Teams are out. #2 – It’s probably pretty easy to get “mediocre” players through waivers right after rosters are set after Spring Training. #3 – He’s 31 years old, and has been declining for 3 years in a row. #4 – Other teams are going with youth or trying to compete with what they have.
by Colorado Fan on Apr 14, 2010 7:50 AM PDT up reply actions
The only team that has room for Cust is the White Sox
and Ozzie Guillen thinks the White Sox strickout too much as it is. It was a calculated gamble that paid off.
"The ego, the super-ego, and the Ed" - danmerqury
You'd think though --
if Cust was the hitter some make him out to be — that somebody would make room for him, wouldn’t they?
One of two things seems to be true … either Cust is a really good hitter and the other teams in baseball are stupid not to pick him up for next to nothing. Or Cust really isn’t that good.
I needed a team so I wouldn’t turn into one of the eighty million pink hat-wearing Bud Light-drinking mulleted idiots at Fenway.
Last night's loss was the first time we directly paid for Wuertz/Devine being out
Gaudin was not a logical choice to face a good lefty hitter. With Wuertz or Devine in the mix, you can more easily mix and match Ziggy and punt if he’s off. With the current bullpen, the lack of depth caught up to the A’s — Ziggy was off, A’s lose. Not Geren’s or Ziggy’s fault, just a bummer.
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How was that not Ziggy's fault?
Last time I checked he was the one who couldn’t locate his batting practice pitches
Bad pick Peyton "Regular Season" Manning!!!
He couldn't get his mechanics straight
Sure it’s totally on him, but he can’t “do” anything about it. If you’re having “one of those days,” you’re having “one of those days.”
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He was in too long to face a lefty
He should not have been in to face bradley
"The ego, the super-ego, and the Ed" - danmerqury
Thing is, Bradley-Gaudin and Bradley-Blevins
aren’t exactly matchups likely to go well starting with two on, nobody out. There were exactly zero good choices out there.
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
I hear all the time about how
our bullpen is going to get better when Wuertz and/or Devine get back. Are we really so sure about that? Wuertz had a great season last year, but before that he wasn’t all that. Devine was fabulous for about 50 innings and now he hasn’t played in a year.
I’m not saying I think they’re going to be bad or anything, but it sure seems like everyone is putting a lot of faith in some small samples at a position which is known for being inconsistent.
There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, Than are dreamt of in your philosophy.
It's the flat out depth, to me --
to be able to go to a “good” pitcher, rather than to have to choose between Ziggy and Edwar Ramirez, or Ziggy and an already much-used Blevins.
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
When our Offense or Rajai lol doesn't get on base the A's are in trouble!
Bad pick Peyton "Regular Season" Manning!!!
which is a bummer because Rajai doesn't get on base a whole lot
"The ego, the super-ego, and the Ed" - danmerqury
I guess another side effect from having a speed and contact team like the A's is DP's
Although the A’s have always been bad at hitting into DP’s
Bad pick Peyton "Regular Season" Manning!!!
Seems to me they've always been quite good at it.
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Bradley would have never hit that home run
if emporer nobody had been there to heckle him.
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all my fault
[[awaits mob with torches at door]]
Hey, I just bought the team from Lew Wolff... who wants to play third?
by emperor nobody on Apr 14, 2010 2:08 PM PDT up reply actions
PS
If you guys wanna send me city to city to heckle him in every one, we can work that out.
Seriously, he’ll have his moments for them (so far all two of them have come on meatball pitches from 2 of our guys, but we play them 19 times so you’re gonna get bitten by him a couple of times, it’s just the statistical law of probability!) but at the end of the 162 I see him having his usual, one-player-consuming-95%-of-team-attention-and-resources that he always has been… I mean they are carrying the deadweight of Sweeney and Griffey just to babysit him, which you could argue has already fukt their team cuz those guys are way past their better days and the M’s have almost less offensive firepower than us.
Hey, I just bought the team from Lew Wolff... who wants to play third?
by emperor nobody on Apr 14, 2010 2:14 PM PDT up reply actions
Really could use a win tonight!
Hope Gonzales has good stuff tonight. Hope the A’s bats are off of vacation and are back to getting timely hits! Lets hope for a good game tonight! GO A’s !!
Another year, another chance to hope for the team !!
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