The Anti-Crosby! Rosales Leads A's To Series Win
by Nico on Apr 11, 2010 3:40 PM PDT
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PrintBased on today's first start in an A's uniform, Adam Rosales can hit HRs (when nobody else can do anything off of Joe Saunders for 6 innings), hit in the clutch (turning a 3-2 deficit in the 7th into a 4-3 lead with a single to right), can lay off bad balls and draw a walk (forcing in a run and giving him 4 RBIs on the day), so...yeah, doesn't remind me of Crosby.
Dallas Braden struggled early, surrendering an Abreu HR, Hunter double, Rivera single, and 2 first inning runs, but then settled into a groove. Braden looked like he was using his cutter a lot more than usual, adjusting well to an Angels' lineup that seemed to be trying to sit "changeup." Meanwhile, a Rosales 2nd inning HR was the A's only hit for a while -- not surprising when you saw the A's lineup -- but trailing 3-1 in the 7th Oakland remembered how to score runs and score more runs (no I didn't just call you all morons), taking the lead with 3 in the 7th, adding 3 more in the 8th, and 2 in the 9th.
Braden the Warrior is returned the winning pitcher for his 6 innings of 3 run ball, and Tyson Ross gets credit for his first major league save for finishing up. And the rest of the bullpen gets a much needed day of rest.
Now one other note. I love "small ball" when it's "smart ball," but the A's need to realize that today's efforts were dumb. Daric Barton -- you know the guy who is hitting and walking like getting on base is going out of style? -- bunted Rajai Davis over to 3rd not once but twice, which was two times too many. And with Davis at 3B, Sweeney at 1B, one out and Kouzmanoff up, Sweeney ran while Raj observed, and was caught stealing. No.
But that's the only negative on a glorious day in which the A's win their first road series and first Angels' series, go to 5-2, and stay atop the Western Division. Stick around, by the way, because at 7:00pm we'll have a special fanpost on none other than today's savior: Tyson Ross.
I love Adam Rosales!!!!!!
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does this feel good
sock puppets have never successfully defended castles. -nm
by Leopold Bloom on Apr 11, 2010 3:45 PM PDT up reply actions
sluts
A's v Giants "is kind of like the difference between going to see the Ramones and going to see the Bee Gees. A's fans will go see the Ramones."
-BB 07/27/05
[quietly notes this]
[prepares many-scented oils]
sock puppets have never successfully defended castles. -nm
by Leopold Bloom on Apr 11, 2010 3:51 PM PDT up reply actions
Excuse me -- it's PATTERSON we want released, thank you.
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
[begins to worry]
[relaxes when he realizes internet stalker is all the way on the other side of the country]
WAIT…
by LongLiveLangerhans on Apr 11, 2010 5:55 PM PDT up reply actions
well, I am moving back at the end of May.
But, in fairness, you’re fairly far down the list. Don and Mr Hand should be concerned, though.
sock puppets have never successfully defended castles. -nm
by Leopold Bloom on Apr 12, 2010 2:12 AM PDT up reply actions
present.
sock puppets have never successfully defended castles. -nm
by Leopold Bloom on Apr 11, 2010 3:49 PM PDT up reply actions
Series win!
Always good!
"With Chance on first, and Evers on third,
Great things from the Cubs will soon be heard."
These guys are more fun to watch than I thought they'd be
Yeah, a 5-2 start is a big part of that compared to 2-5.
They’re going to have some stretches where they go a full series struggling to do anything, but even today they fought back and poured it on late. One hit through six, then they finished by scoring eight runs on eight hits in the last three. They’ve been in every game, fighting back when they were down.
Let’s keep it rolling.
Last of the Ninth - Photography
shoot, both games they lost, they fought in them.
Could be undefeated right now. Not a lot of quit in them.
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by Leopold Bloom on Apr 11, 2010 3:44 PM PDT up reply actions
This is what I most like so far.
These guys seem to really play hard.
They’ll be fun to watch so long as they do.
And if everyone stays healthy, their pitching might just make them competitive, too.
There is no "i" in Teamocil. At least not where you'd think.
by GreenNGoldSooner on Apr 11, 2010 4:54 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
The way we are winning is sustainable
There is no reason we can’t keep doing what we are doing right now.
"I get nervous every fifth day," Braden said. "I figure the day that goes away is the day I saddle up behind the 7-Eleven desk."
So you think we'll win 116 games this year?
"We were shit, pathetic," Guillen growled early in spring training. "We hit too many home runs."
by lenscrafters on Apr 11, 2010 5:29 PM PDT up reply actions
Why 116 games?
"I get nervous every fifth day," Braden said. "I figure the day that goes away is the day I saddle up behind the 7-Eleven desk."
That's the pace we're currently on
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
I'm going to guess...
….97 wins. We’ll double and single everybody to death.
"With Chance on first, and Evers on third,
Great things from the Cubs will soon be heard."
There are going to be games where we play well and lose
so no, not win 116 games, but put forward this type of effort and compete in our division is sustainable.
"I get nervous every fifth day," Braden said. "I figure the day that goes away is the day I saddle up behind the 7-Eleven desk."
Yeah, I don't see why a team batting Sweeney, Kouzmanoff, and Suzuki 3-4-5
can’t win 116 games.
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
I wonder if we're in contention come the AS break whether Beane will
try and go after a big bat. Probably not.
He steps to the left, he steps to the riiiiiiight. That Amos Roberts, he'll make you look shite!
By 'big bat' I mean somebody that can hit.
Sorry for the confusion. =P
He steps to the left, he steps to the riiiiiiight. That Amos Roberts, he'll make you look shite!
If he's in the lineup
we will be lucky to string together 3 consecutive baserunners.
Yeah, I mean, he's only the most likely guy on the team to reach base
Wait, that’s wrong.
Shawn Spencer: Ahoy there! Um, yes. Right! My name is Shawn Spencer! This is my first mate Hummingbird Saltalamacchia!
Burton Guster: Hello!
Shawn Spencer: We were turned around-- discombobulated! We... we just now realized we're in restricted waters.
Burton Guster: Just now! And we both have hepatitis!
Okay, I don't usually touch this kind of ridiculousness
but isn’t getting a baserunner exactly what on-base percentage is? Usually you’re just factually wrong, but this post is definitionally wrong.
Sundown dazzling day, gold through my eyes.
But my eyes, turned within, only see
starless and bible black.
by danmerqury on Apr 11, 2010 8:45 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Actually, it's true
I can’t think of two other hitters who are likely to reach base!
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
Other true statements:
If Jack Cust is not in the lineup, the A’s will be lucky to string together 3 consecutive baserunners.
If Brett Anderson is the next Cy Young winner, the A’s will be lucky to string together 3 consecutive baserunners.
If I am the exhumed, rat-eaten corpse of Graham Chapman, the A’s will be lucky to string together 3 consecutive baserunners.
Shawn Spencer: Ahoy there! Um, yes. Right! My name is Shawn Spencer! This is my first mate Hummingbird Saltalamacchia!
Burton Guster: Hello!
Shawn Spencer: We were turned around-- discombobulated! We... we just now realized we're in restricted waters.
Burton Guster: Just now! And we both have hepatitis!
I thought you smelled a bit ripe.
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
I am sorry but I look at his stats last year
With RISP. He hit .238
He struck out 39 percent of the time.
He tries to walk with runners on instead of like, swing the bat.
He might have had a high OBP, and yes, getting on base is obviously good, being left on base or not driving the guys in is not good.
If Beane loved the way he hits, why the hell did he DFA him. You might say he did because he knew no one would pick him up. I think that is telling in itself.
I respect that a lot of you like the guy and that he gets on base but he really is not that good of a hitter IMO. Sometimes making contact and putting the ball in play is more important than taking a walk.
And yes, he has power but I think people get clouded by a few home runs here and there and that he is a threat in that department. I just wish he would swing the bat a little more in key situations.
You will once again say that he tried that and it didn’t work. How hard is it to swing at a pitch in the zone when you have 2 strikes on you. I would accept that if he struck out swinging. It’s the fucking strike 3 lookings with RISP, that PISS me OFF. If he’s a ML player he can swing at a ball which is a strike.
I continue to be puzzled about why some people are so angered by strikeouts looking
A swinging strikeout is an emphatic declaration that the hitter is unable to do what he wants to do at the plate. A looking strikeout is often nothing more than a snap gamble that an ump will call a borderline pitch a ball.
I mean, not that Cust doesn’t whiff plenty when he swings— he does— but that’s precisely the point! Why would anyone want to take the dubious chance of him attempting to hit a borderline pitch when, by taking it, he might either see another better one or walk and (at worst) reset the count for the next hitter?
Shawn Spencer: Ahoy there! Um, yes. Right! My name is Shawn Spencer! This is my first mate Hummingbird Saltalamacchia!
Burton Guster: Hello!
Shawn Spencer: We were turned around-- discombobulated! We... we just now realized we're in restricted waters.
Burton Guster: Just now! And we both have hepatitis!
Not necessarily.
Swinging and missing can be a 100% physical failure.
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by thejd44 on Apr 11, 2010 10:05 PM PDT up reply actions
I wonder if anyone has figures on the locations of the strike threes Cust's had called looking
Last of the Ninth - Photography
Most seem (in a naked eye judgement) to be "close" pitches.
Not necessarily borderline, but close.
Leopold Bloom on why he loves Mr. Peter Gammons, his best buddy:
"Peter Gammons systematically ignored and/or ran down the A’s in the pages of Sports Illustrated and The Sporting News for a good ten year stretch in the late seventies and early to mid-eighties. Trust me, the c**ksucker hates our team."
Could it also be that he strikes out looking
because he is guessing and also has trouble hitting the off speed stuff. He is hoping for a ball.
He also struggles mightily against LHP
in 2009 yes
2009 wOBA .285
But career, no
wOBA .331
"The ego, the super-ego, and the Ed" - danmerqury
Goodness gracious
But sometimes i just really appreciate this site.
It’s possible to be really really excited about the A’s start AND point out where “playing the game the right way” is the wrong way, yet passes in the media and among “baseball people” as that right way, especially when regardless of right or wrong in any given instance, it worked out with a win, like lately with the A’s.
Moving past run-on sentences:
Nico: Exactly. Barton. Hot. Left handed so many regular outs move the runner over anyway. Taking bat out of a great percentage shot at big inning, without a big “sacrifice” of your chance to get the smaller inning you seem to prefer.
Also Nico, spot on, that game was the perfect example of what Crosby just isn’t.
And PT:
Completely agree. People, most people, casual fans etc, have a sense of weakness attached to Ks, especially looking. Most of the time the feeble 2 strike protection swing has WAY LESS a chance of landing you on 1st base than the walk you have a decent shot at if you take on 3-2.
by supersugarCrisp on Apr 12, 2010 3:00 PM PDT up reply actions
Oh, right, because Rajai Davis strikes out when Cust is on the team.
It’s a good thing I don’t run AN, because I’d ban this sort of stupidity.
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by thejd44 on Apr 11, 2010 10:06 PM PDT up reply actions
What the hell are you talking about?
I made a comment that Kust would probably struck out in that bases loaded situation.
what has that got to do with Rajai striking out when Cust is on the team.
trying to be antagonistic?
Not at the expense of the future, I'd say, but
maybe a “slight upgrade” — the kind of hitter who would improve this lineup may not command a lot in return (because a “pretty good hitter” would still constitute an upgrade).
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
That's what I mean.
I wouldn’t advocate trading Carter/Taylor et al, but I’m sure we have some spare parts hanging around that could get us a short term upgrade.
I hear Patterson and Fox are highly coveted for example…
He steps to the left, he steps to the riiiiiiight. That Amos Roberts, he'll make you look shite!
Spare parts
Braden has a couple of toes that he’s not using any more.
"And Julio Franco is batting right-handed!" -- Wayne Hagin, A's radio play-by-play, mid-80s
by Nick on Apr 11, 2010 5:51 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
160-2 Baby!
A Ballade [for the Angels Fan], by Eustache Deschamps: "We are cowardly, ill-formed and weak / Aged, envious and evil-spoken. / I see only fools and sots / Truly the end is nigh / All goes ill."
Yeah, I agree with this.
If things had broke differently yesterday and at the opener, we could easily be undefeated.
"With Chance on first, and Evers on third,
Great things from the Cubs will soon be heard."
except for the different breaks
and 2 loses in games 2 and 3
"The ego, the super-ego, and the Ed" - danmerqury
Dallas Braden struggled early... but then settled into a groove.
Just like me on my couch!
A free society is one where it is safe to be unpopular.
Yeah... moving it into my apartment the other day.
Now we get along great.
A free society is one where it is safe to be unpopular.
Speedy Rosales!!!
"It is like Menudo, where guys reach a certain age and are kicked out of the band. And they go on to be Ricky Martins somewhere else." -Billy Beane
by WhiteElephantGuy on Apr 11, 2010 3:45 PM PDT reply actions
the reds called him pete rosales
A's v Giants "is kind of like the difference between going to see the Ramones and going to see the Bee Gees. A's fans will go see the Ramones."
-BB 07/27/05
don't bet against it
A's v Giants "is kind of like the difference between going to see the Ramones and going to see the Bee Gees. A's fans will go see the Ramones."
-BB 07/27/05
But it's a sure thing!
"You may glory in a team triumphant, but you fall in love with a team in defeat."--The Boys of Summer
So what's his nickname?
I vote NotCrosby.
"I thought it was going in," Warriors center Chris Hunter said. "It looked like the invisible man tipped it away at the last second."
orCoB
There is no "i" in Teamocil. At least not where you'd think.
by GreenNGoldSooner on Apr 12, 2010 3:59 AM PDT up reply actions
he came over with taveras, not miles
A's v Giants "is kind of like the difference between going to see the Ramones and going to see the Bee Gees. A's fans will go see the Ramones."
-BB 07/27/05
oh yeah, i forgot about that
A's v Giants "is kind of like the difference between going to see the Ramones and going to see the Bee Gees. A's fans will go see the Ramones."
-BB 07/27/05
great game today
finaly got to see one in person and they looked good despite the lineup. barton continues to impress, especially on defense today, which was amazing.
by Twan54321 on Apr 11, 2010 3:46 PM PDT via mobile reply actions
Don't know if this was posted in the gamethreads (I'm a little afraid to go read them all)...
but the ticket office posted this today….
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There's no crying in baseball!
hi!
Sorry, that earlier comment was a post-and-run….now I’m in for the evening….
There's no crying in baseball!
I might be tempted if I didn't live 1,400 miles away.
There is no "i" in Teamocil. At least not where you'd think.
by GreenNGoldSooner on Apr 11, 2010 4:55 PM PDT up reply actions
nice!
thx gigs!
sock puppets have never successfully defended castles. -nm
by Leopold Bloom on Apr 11, 2010 3:50 PM PDT up reply actions
Mixed results up in Portland so far
Cats up 4-3. The 2-3-4-5 spots are Miller/Carter/Cust/Taylor and Miller’s 0/3 with 3 strikeouts, Carter’s 0/2, Cust’s walked both times up and Taylor’s walked once and GIDP. Both Cust and Taylor scored on a Donaldson homer.
Last of the Ninth - Photography
At least Carter is playing.
The Ultimate Opportunist
by Rated-R Superstar on Apr 11, 2010 3:49 PM PDT up reply actions
Can they go undefeted?
"The ego, the super-ego, and the Ed" - danmerqury
by Future Ed on Apr 11, 2010 4:10 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
I can't believe Ben Sheets is our Cory Lidle of the big 3
"It is like Menudo, where guys reach a certain age and are kicked out of the band. And they go on to be Ricky Martins somewhere else." -Billy Beane
by WhiteElephantGuy on Apr 11, 2010 3:49 PM PDT reply actions
Rest in peace, Cory Lidle.
The Ultimate Opportunist
by Rated-R Superstar on Apr 11, 2010 3:49 PM PDT up reply actions
He's gonna pitch a scoreless August?
"And Julio Franco is batting right-handed!" -- Wayne Hagin, A's radio play-by-play, mid-80s
I'm saying if he did, we'll have another 20 game win streak.
well, a guy can dream.
"It is like Menudo, where guys reach a certain age and are kicked out of the band. And they go on to be Ricky Martins somewhere else." -Billy Beane
by WhiteElephantGuy on Apr 11, 2010 6:10 PM PDT up reply actions
Just don't let him near any small aircraft!
(too soon?)
There is no "i" in Teamocil. At least not where you'd think.
by GreenNGoldSooner on Apr 11, 2010 6:45 PM PDT up reply actions
Yeah, just a little...
"The only way I'm going to get a Gold Glove is with a can of spray paint." - Reggie Jackson
by the_rozeboom on Apr 11, 2010 8:05 PM PDT up reply actions
I would've made a "crash and burn" joke
Things are never too soon for me.
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by thejd44 on Apr 11, 2010 10:07 PM PDT up reply actions
a's win with the supposed "b" team: fox, patterson/gross, rosales, ellis at DH.
wait a minute ellis at DH is a huge upgrade…
A's v Giants "is kind of like the difference between going to see the Ramones and going to see the Bee Gees. A's fans will go see the Ramones."
-BB 07/27/05
Maybe Rosales should be the designated hitter tomorrow.
The Ultimate Opportunist
by Rated-R Superstar on Apr 11, 2010 3:50 PM PDT up reply actions
I think he should start at SS
Pennington hasn’t gotten even an inning off this season, and he struggles against LHs anyway. Rosales played great today, and earned some more ABs. And I think in general it’s a good idea to let the backups play back-to-back games if possible (hopefully, by playing for a different starter in each game) so that they can get a better feel for hitting.
Along those lines, I’d put Fox at DH against Rowland-Smith tomorrow, with Zook back behind the plate.
"And Julio Franco is batting right-handed!" -- Wayne Hagin, A's radio play-by-play, mid-80s
by Nick on Apr 11, 2010 4:45 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Good calls. I'm down with both ideas.
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
I had a friend just explain this to me.. so I take it that "Down" is the new "Up" ?
I am sideways with that ;-)
"Whether you think you can, or you think you can't, either way, YOU'RE RIGHT !"
Down with = up for
"And Julio Franco is batting right-handed!" -- Wayne Hagin, A's radio play-by-play, mid-80s
This is the kind of thinking
That would make AN hate Geren less, therefore it is clearly not going.
by el generico on Apr 12, 2010 10:56 AM PDT up reply actions
This team doesn't have "A" or "B" variation
Bench players and select AAA guys could beat the starters in a 7-game series.
"supposed"
A's v Giants "is kind of like the difference between going to see the Ramones and going to see the Bee Gees. A's fans will go see the Ramones."
-BB 07/27/05
While not disagreeing with the main point
that we don’t have a very good offense, it’s not great timing to try and make that argument when we’re 3rd in the AL in R/G.
Good things to remember about this game
- Braden pitching a solid game; not quite as good as his first start but a tough effort
- Fox looking acceptable behind the plate
- Rosales having a great debut
- Barton’s slick defense at first
- Rajai’s two nice, clean steals
Things to forget are some bizarre small-balling, umpiring and gamescoring, but the last two thing shouldn’t bother you much unless you are Angels fan or poor Brandon Wood.
You could always have...
…Cust swinging wildly away at the dish, striking out, when you need those runs. I’ll take “contact baseball”
"With Chance on first, and Evers on third,
Great things from the Cubs will soon be heard."
Opposite of bunting and unsuccesfully stealing bases in wrong situations is not striking out
It’s, I dunno, hitting home runs, walking, reaching base in ways that don’t create outs.
unless you have people who can't do that.
then you need to do bunting and stealing in order to create runs
Bunting and Sweeneys CS didn't help today
But the 4 walks in the 8th did. Giving away outs unless its an obvious situation in which to bunt is always stupid and having your best hitter bunt twice in unnecessary situations is stupid.
"Their batters are patient to the point that it's annoying." -Ryan Franklin
by Helloooo 1st on Apr 11, 2010 4:04 PM PDT up reply actions
If you have people who can't do that,
then you won’t score any runs no matter what you do. Bunting with a bad lineup is like putting a dress on a pig.
Shawn Spencer: Ahoy there! Um, yes. Right! My name is Shawn Spencer! This is my first mate Hummingbird Saltalamacchia!
Burton Guster: Hello!
Shawn Spencer: We were turned around-- discombobulated! We... we just now realized we're in restricted waters.
Burton Guster: Just now! And we both have hepatitis!
then what's the point of bunting?
the point is increasing the odds of scoring by putting someone in better scoring position for a better hitter. if there wasn’t a point for it, bunting wouldn’t exist in the first place.
bunting has to be a legitimate hitting technique, I'd say
I’m not a baseball knightof knowledge like some here, I dunno.
bunting is a legit technique.
which is why so many players do it badly. there’s a lot of stuff that goes into bunting. people just like to complain about it when its executed poorly, while praising it if someone gets on base using a drag/push bunt. it’s kind of a lost art.
Does there have to be a point to bunting?
Leopold Bloom on why he loves Mr. Peter Gammons, his best buddy:
"Peter Gammons systematically ignored and/or ran down the A’s in the pages of Sports Illustrated and The Sporting News for a good ten year stretch in the late seventies and early to mid-eighties. Trust me, the c**ksucker hates our team."
except
bunting rarely increases the number of runs you’re expected to score even when successful and rarely increases the odds of scoring even one run. Observable evidence > old-timey baseball logic.
The worst part about the Barton bunt is he was doing it ahead in the count. Last year the league hit .294/.514/.515 after 2-0.
today's bunts were, in fact, stupid
i won’t disagree with anyone there. but bunting does have moments where it helps win games. ramon hernadez in the playoffs anyone?
one bunt in a 1000 turns out well and you cherry pick it
Dude, he would have gotten a hit with that bunt. It wasn’t for a sacrifice. The Sac bunt is a just bad strategy.
Leopold Bloom on why he loves Mr. Peter Gammons, his best buddy:
"Peter Gammons systematically ignored and/or ran down the A’s in the pages of Sports Illustrated and The Sporting News for a good ten year stretch in the late seventies and early to mid-eighties. Trust me, the c**ksucker hates our team."
i was just kidding about the hernandez thing.
i just disagree that a sac bunt is ALWAYS bad. its just like hitting the ball the right side when the runners on second, do what you can to move the runner over
A wasted out is a wasted out.
If you’re out either way, yeah, moving the runner over is a great thing. But get a hit instead and you’re much, much, much more likely to score runs. The problem with the sac bunt is that it’s never done to get on base.
Leopold Bloom on why he loves Mr. Peter Gammons, his best buddy:
"Peter Gammons systematically ignored and/or ran down the A’s in the pages of Sports Illustrated and The Sporting News for a good ten year stretch in the late seventies and early to mid-eighties. Trust me, the c**ksucker hates our team."
I'd say if some people were better at situational hitting, specifically...
…hitting to the right side of the infield, the sac bunt would be used less frequently. At least hitting to the right side gives a chance of the ball getting through.
Last of the Ninth - Photography
If baseball was played with a cricket bat, that might be plausible
Round bat + round ball = enough weird shit happening that no one can ever reliably hit the ball to one side of the infield or the other. Asking for “better situational hitting” is pretty much asking for the impossible.
Shawn Spencer: Ahoy there! Um, yes. Right! My name is Shawn Spencer! This is my first mate Hummingbird Saltalamacchia!
Burton Guster: Hello!
Shawn Spencer: We were turned around-- discombobulated! We... we just now realized we're in restricted waters.
Burton Guster: Just now! And we both have hepatitis!
Baloney
Ellis had a great AB in this SERIES to show otherwise.
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
Really? ONE at-bat?
I’ll see that and raise you 101,164 more.
Hitters in situations where hitting the ball to the right side is advantageous do it about 5% more often than otherwise. That’s nonzero, but it falls far short of anything you could possibly call reliable.
Shawn Spencer: Ahoy there! Um, yes. Right! My name is Shawn Spencer! This is my first mate Hummingbird Saltalamacchia!
Burton Guster: Hello!
Shawn Spencer: We were turned around-- discombobulated! We... we just now realized we're in restricted waters.
Burton Guster: Just now! And we both have hepatitis!
Depends on the hitter
Kouzmanoff? No. Barton? Yes. For one thing, it’s a lot easier for a LH to reach out and pull an outside pitch than it is for a RH hitter to take an inside pitch on the ground the other way. So it’s a lot easier for a pitcher to prevent a RH hitter than it is a LH hitter — especially one with decent bat control.
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
If there were ever a situation that called for a LH to take an inside pitch on the ground the other way
then we could call that situation “a Sweeney”.
"And Julio Franco is batting right-handed!" -- Wayne Hagin, A's radio play-by-play, mid-80s
But definitely not a "Baines"
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
But isn't what you are describing not really situational hitting?
I would agree that a lefty like Barton would be more likely to hit the ball to the right side then a righty like Kouz. But that would be in any situation, not just one in which we would like a ball to the right side. So “better” situational hitting is not really occurring, but rather just the normal type if hitting for a guy like Barton.
No, I mean he would look for a pitch to pull
and hope for the right side hole or a line drive — but give himself a great chance to at least advance the runner no matter what.
Hitters don’t have control of whether it’s hit at or 3 steps from a fielder, but they can have a lot more control over left/right/up the middle than PT is acknowledging.
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
OK
Prove it.
Refute or explain that article I cited.
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Burton Guster: Hello!
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Burton Guster: Just now! And we both have hepatitis!
No thanks.
I don’t feel the need to prove anything.
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
Well I think we've established things then
I have actual evidence; you have jack.
Shawn Spencer: Ahoy there! Um, yes. Right! My name is Shawn Spencer! This is my first mate Hummingbird Saltalamacchia!
Burton Guster: Hello!
Shawn Spencer: We were turned around-- discombobulated! We... we just now realized we're in restricted waters.
Burton Guster: Just now! And we both have hepatitis!
Well, you are entitled to your interpretations,
just as one is entitled to one’s opinion, I suppose.
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
So instead of actually supporting your unfounded and, quite frankly wrong "opinion"
You’re attempting to bait by being contrary in a non-discourse manner? You make these blanket statements based on your perceptions of the game (which there’s certainly nothing wrong with that). When you’re called on to defend it, you offer nothing to support it (also nothing wrong with that). But you don’t just stop there. You still attempt to poke at it by more or less saying the other person is wrong while they are defending it. If you’re not interested in the discussion or the argument, why not just leave well enough and just say nothing?
Leopold Bloom on why he loves Mr. Peter Gammons, his best buddy:
"Peter Gammons systematically ignored and/or ran down the A’s in the pages of Sports Illustrated and The Sporting News for a good ten year stretch in the late seventies and early to mid-eighties. Trust me, the c**ksucker hates our team."
by DMOAS on Apr 11, 2010 9:00 PM PDT up reply actions 5 recs
No. I'm saying I'm not interested in conversing
by saying, essentially, “agree to disagree, hold your point of view, that’s fine.” Sure I could just ignore the comment, but that seems to upset people more.
You may feel that once a debate is started, I’m obliged to continue it until I have “proven” or “conceded” my point. For me, I continue until I have no interest in continuing the discussion, which usually has more than anything to do with the manner in which I’m being debated.
If I lose interest, so what — it’s not a courtroom or a debate club, it’s a conversation. I’m going to walk away when I feel like it, usually out of boredom or the realization that I’m not going to enlighten anyone anyway.
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
by Nico on Apr 11, 2010 9:08 PM PDT up reply actions 2 recs
Seriously?
If you’re not interested, don’t say anything. I’ve done it plenty of times. I’ve seen almost everyone here do it at some point. No one cares if you decide to just not bother anymore. And “No thanks. I don’t feel the need to prove anything.” is a FAR cry from saying “I’m not interested in this anymore” or “agree to disagree” which are both pretty weak statements, significantly worse than saying nothing.
You basically come across kind of obnoxious in a “I’m right, you’re wrong” mentality. Especially when you back it up with a “Well, you are entitled to your interpretations, just as one is entitled to one’s opinion, I suppose.” statement. “I suppose?” Seriously, that’s really a very insulting sort of way to try end an argument. It’s basically saying “You’re wrong, I know it, so shove it.” Whether you intend to be obnoxious (which I don’t know you well enough to really be able to tell that or not), you are being quite obnoxious.
Leopold Bloom on why he loves Mr. Peter Gammons, his best buddy:
"Peter Gammons systematically ignored and/or ran down the A’s in the pages of Sports Illustrated and The Sporting News for a good ten year stretch in the late seventies and early to mid-eighties. Trust me, the c**ksucker hates our team."
I used to just "ignore"
and I got a lot of heat for that. So I guess you can’t please everyone.
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
Hmm... can't say I've seen
anyone actually complain about that, but you’d definitely have a better sense of that than I would.
Leopold Bloom on why he loves Mr. Peter Gammons, his best buddy:
"Peter Gammons systematically ignored and/or ran down the A’s in the pages of Sports Illustrated and The Sporting News for a good ten year stretch in the late seventies and early to mid-eighties. Trust me, the c**ksucker hates our team."
Goes back more than a year
It used to be my MO until I got a bunch of “You just cut and run!” critiques for doing that.
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
Well then I can definitely appreciate
how that makes things more difficult for you. I guess the only thing I can offer is to only engage in arguments you’re willing to take to more extreme level? That’s more or less what I try to do. Doesn’t always work, mind you, but that’s what I try. Might also be why I seldom involve myself with real arguments and stick with Bloomie instead.
Leopold Bloom on why he loves Mr. Peter Gammons, his best buddy:
"Peter Gammons systematically ignored and/or ran down the A’s in the pages of Sports Illustrated and The Sporting News for a good ten year stretch in the late seventies and early to mid-eighties. Trust me, the c**ksucker hates our team."
Yeah, usually I'm not trying to engage in an argument in the first place,
just to “say something relevant to the discussion.” When it becomes an argument, I’m not always interested, and when it becomes a “prove it” order I’m never interested; hence the sudden dilemma about how to not engage. “Just ignore” is fine by me, believe me, if it doesn’t raise more ire.
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
While I would agree with you
that simply saying nothing is better than saying “agree to disagree” or “I don’t care about this discussion anymore”, I would also say that the one truly obnoxious comment in this exchange was when Paul said, “Prove it. Refute the article I cited.”
Ideally, Nico would have walked away at that point, but I don’t blame him one bit for snapping back at that. Nothing on AN annoys me more than one of the macho debate boys tries to shut someone up by saying, essentially, you aren’t allowed to express a contrary opinion until you have defeated him in single combat.
There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, Than are dreamt of in your philosophy.
It's funny, reading through it again
“Well I think we’ve established things then. I have actual evidence; you have jack.”
was the comment that came across to me as the most baiting, obnoxious, and so on.
So pick your PT poison, I guess!
Believe me, I’m MORE than happy to just ignore — and would have had I not been chastised many times for doing just that. I’ll go back to trying that when I don’t feel like engaging further.
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
I didn't really read it that way
I saw it more as PT thinking Nico had basically responded to his “proof” with more or less the exact same argument he’d made earlier, without bothering to bring something new to the conversation. I can see how someone would think that was obnoxious, I see it as a “throw up my hands” sort of way of saying “well, then why the hell are we even talking if you’re not going to say anything.”
Leopold Bloom on why he loves Mr. Peter Gammons, his best buddy:
"Peter Gammons systematically ignored and/or ran down the A’s in the pages of Sports Illustrated and The Sporting News for a good ten year stretch in the late seventies and early to mid-eighties. Trust me, the c**ksucker hates our team."
I don't know - this whole spat seems stupid
The A’s just won a series on the road against the Angels to go to 5-2 and we’re not in a happy mood?
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
Yep.
Leopold Bloom on why he loves Mr. Peter Gammons, his best buddy:
"Peter Gammons systematically ignored and/or ran down the A’s in the pages of Sports Illustrated and The Sporting News for a good ten year stretch in the late seventies and early to mid-eighties. Trust me, the c**ksucker hates our team."
It is the nature of the world
that people are going to disagree, and it is the nature of the world that some people are going to be wrong. You can’t go around demanding people either refute your argument or renounce their view. It’s ridiculous.
There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, Than are dreamt of in your philosophy.
by iglew on Apr 11, 2010 9:40 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
That's why I think you should
just walk away from it if you lose interest. And to hell with anyone who gives you crap for it. If the best you can do or feel like doing is just repeating yourself, you’re already actually done with the argument, so why waste your own time?
Leopold Bloom on why he loves Mr. Peter Gammons, his best buddy:
"Peter Gammons systematically ignored and/or ran down the A’s in the pages of Sports Illustrated and The Sporting News for a good ten year stretch in the late seventies and early to mid-eighties. Trust me, the c**ksucker hates our team."
The comment/user count on AN would be half of what it is
if people did this!
The funny thing about baseball is that people will believe what they want to believe. -Joe Posnanski 8/29/09
by pam5981 on Apr 11, 2010 9:44 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Ooh!
Every time I start a flame war, I make money?
Thanks, Pam. You wrong-thinking git with bad hair!
{sits back}
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
As she said above,
she needs to find highlights.
There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, Than are dreamt of in your philosophy.
I shall not be baited.
The funny thing about baseball is that people will believe what they want to believe. -Joe Posnanski 8/29/09
I shall not be baited.
The funny thing about baseball is that people will believe what they want to believe. -Joe Posnanski 8/29/09
I was baited on the Warriors blog not too long ago. Some of us are now in a same-sex marriage debate.
The Ultimate Opportunist
by Rated-R Superstar on Apr 11, 2010 10:14 PM PDT up reply actions
While in a more functional blog...
….some of you would now be in a same-sex marriage?
There is no "i" in Teamocil. At least not where you'd think.
by GreenNGoldSooner on Apr 12, 2010 4:05 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Apparently your level of tolerance for "argument by denialism" is much higher than mine
Asking someone to back up an assertion (especially an assertion that I, the requester, am factually wrong about something) with evidence is, last time I checked, something to be encouraged, not derisively sneered at.
The response I got— which was essentially a post-it note saying “stick it”— did not enliven my mood.
Shawn Spencer: Ahoy there! Um, yes. Right! My name is Shawn Spencer! This is my first mate Hummingbird Saltalamacchia!
Burton Guster: Hello!
Shawn Spencer: We were turned around-- discombobulated! We... we just now realized we're in restricted waters.
Burton Guster: Just now! And we both have hepatitis!
"Agree to disagree" is a fucking bulllshit cop out thing to say
If somebody is arguing that there’s no such thing as an airplane, then says, despite, you know, airplanes existing, “Well, agree to disagree. I’ve never SEEN an airplane so they don’t exist.” Wouldn’t you want to stab them in the neck or something?
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by thejd44 on Apr 11, 2010 10:11 PM PDT up reply actions
No, not over an airplane
But we can agree to disagree.
Leopold Bloom on why he loves Mr. Peter Gammons, his best buddy:
"Peter Gammons systematically ignored and/or ran down the A’s in the pages of Sports Illustrated and The Sporting News for a good ten year stretch in the late seventies and early to mid-eighties. Trust me, the c**ksucker hates our team."
I am curious
Are you saying that all batters have the ability to hit the ball to the right side when needed, or that this is a skill possessed by only those with superior bat control? Because the author of the article PT cites above feels that some hitters do have that ability, but that in general the average hitter does not.
I'm definitely not saying all batters have the ability
I’m saying some do, and that the factors that most influence it are going to be “hitting style” and “left-handedness.”
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
It's more a matter of circumstance
Even a lefty with the appropriate hitting style still has to deal with a pitcher attempting to not allow him to do what he wants to do, assuming he even has that much control over where the ball is going to begin with. Or what PT just said.
Leopold Bloom on why he loves Mr. Peter Gammons, his best buddy:
"Peter Gammons systematically ignored and/or ran down the A’s in the pages of Sports Illustrated and The Sporting News for a good ten year stretch in the late seventies and early to mid-eighties. Trust me, the c**ksucker hates our team."
What more effective "move 'em over" hitters do
has to do with pitch selection — they are patient enough to wait for something they CAN reliably hit to the right side.
In the case of a LH, it’s a lot easier because if you’re able to get the bat head out early enoug, there isn’t really a location you can’t pull. The same approach that is bad, usually (reach out and pull the outside pitch) gets the job done.
In contrast, if a pitch runs in on the hands to a RH hitter it’s very hard for the batter to put the ball both to the right side and not in the air.
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
It's a lot harder than it might seem
A good pitcher throwing heat on the black or in on your hands to a lefty isn’t going to be easy to pull. If it were that easy, it’d probably happen more often than it does, wouldn’t it?
Leopold Bloom on why he loves Mr. Peter Gammons, his best buddy:
"Peter Gammons systematically ignored and/or ran down the A’s in the pages of Sports Illustrated and The Sporting News for a good ten year stretch in the late seventies and early to mid-eighties. Trust me, the c**ksucker hates our team."
Yes, it's not automatic
In fact, sometimes the best idea is to sit “fastball, outside corner” and line it the other way. It’s a cat and mouse game, one of the things I love about baseball.
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
Can't speak for anyone else
but in light of the gradual decrease in “right-side ratio” that the author observes, I would think that what’s operating here is a very similar thing to pitchers’ BABIP. At low levels of competition, it tells you something real. At the elite level of the present-day majors, adverse selection has mostly eliminated the variation. MLB pitchers are too good to allow an abnormally large percentage of balls to be pulled no matter how good the hitter is at it.
It would be consistent with the general sense of recent DIPS research, which is that pitchers seem to have a fair bit of control over where the ball is hit but comparatively little control over how hard the ball is hit, and vice versa for hitters.
Shawn Spencer: Ahoy there! Um, yes. Right! My name is Shawn Spencer! This is my first mate Hummingbird Saltalamacchia!
Burton Guster: Hello!
Shawn Spencer: We were turned around-- discombobulated! We... we just now realized we're in restricted waters.
Burton Guster: Just now! And we both have hepatitis!
I think it would be interesting to see if there was a
difference between a left handed hitter and a right handed hitters ability to hit to the right side to move the runner over. It seems logically intuitive that it is easier to pull a ball then go the other way so maybe a lefty actually has more of an ability to do this then a righty. Then again, maybe the stats would show that there is no difference but it would be interesting if someone could re-run the numbers from the article seperating batters that were battting from the left vs the right side.
You'd figure there has to be
The number is less than 50%. Why? Because less than 50% of at-bats are taken by lefties.
Although it’s actually even lower than the true proportion of lefthanded at-bats (44% in the 2009 AL). So that’s a little odd.
Lefties may be more prone to being “push hitters” (think Ryan Sweeney) because in most circumstances, it’s advantageous to hit the ball to the left side of the infield (much more likely to get an infield hit, eg). So perhaps that backfires on them in this one instance where you’d rather hit it to the right side.
Shawn Spencer: Ahoy there! Um, yes. Right! My name is Shawn Spencer! This is my first mate Hummingbird Saltalamacchia!
Burton Guster: Hello!
Shawn Spencer: We were turned around-- discombobulated! We... we just now realized we're in restricted waters.
Burton Guster: Just now! And we both have hepatitis!
My guess on that is that the data
might also be impacted by lefty sluggers (David Ortiz types) whose style isn’t suited.
That’s why I put hitting style first, “left-handedness” second. Combine the two and that’s when you might expect success.
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Which is why the sacrifice bunt is not a bad move when used properly
Last of the Ninth - Photography
Wait -- Scioscia, LaRussa, Torre, Cox ... aren't idiots?
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
Isn't the problem more than BARTON bunted as opposed to someone else?
Yeah, bunting isn’t a great plan but there are situations where it would work. One of those situations, though, is not when our best hitter is at the plate.
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by cuppingmaster on Apr 11, 2010 5:44 PM PDT up reply actions
Yeah it was moronic.
He steps to the left, he steps to the riiiiiiight. That Amos Roberts, he'll make you look shite!
Yes
Especially i the 1st inning, with a very good base-stealer on 2nd who might be able to swipe 3rd even if Barton lines out or something.
And in the other situation, Rajai could steal 2nd.
"And Julio Franco is batting right-handed!" -- Wayne Hagin, A's radio play-by-play, mid-80s
The way it's used, it's rarely if ever "proper"
The proper use is as the hitting equivalent of a change-up. Telegraphing a sacrifice is foolish except in extreme one-run situations, because the generic “sacrifice” outcome (batter out, runners advance) causes your team to score fewer runs.
Shawn Spencer: Ahoy there! Um, yes. Right! My name is Shawn Spencer! This is my first mate Hummingbird Saltalamacchia!
Burton Guster: Hello!
Shawn Spencer: We were turned around-- discombobulated! We... we just now realized we're in restricted waters.
Burton Guster: Just now! And we both have hepatitis!
The point is simple
If your goal is to advance a runner to give someone else a better chance of scoring him with a base hit and you don’t mind giving up an out, a sacrifice bunt has a much higher probability of working than trying to hit to the right side.
Of course, that all depends on the hitter. If the guy at the plate is exceptionally good with the bat, you probably don’t want him to be the one to concede an out anyway.
Last of the Ninth - Photography
Yes, but the only time when you should not mind giving up an out
is basically as the home team in the 9th inning or extras of a tied game. Otherwise, it has a negative impact on win probability.
Good teams should not have that goal very often.
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Burton Guster: Hello!
Shawn Spencer: We were turned around-- discombobulated! We... we just now realized we're in restricted waters.
Burton Guster: Just now! And we both have hepatitis!
by PaulThomas on Apr 11, 2010 5:57 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
I'd generally agree with that
If you’re doing it early in the game because you’re afraid you might only get one run against someone, that’s…bad.
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When the batter is very likely to make an out anyway,
and is a DP threat, it can make a lot of sense. Especially 2 on, 0 out, where a DP is a rally killer and a successful sac bunt forces the other team to play the infield back, or risk 2 runs by bringing it in, or walk the bases loaded.
It can be great for your plodding backup catcher (Barajas, J. Molina) who’s mostly in there for their defense, or just your worst hitter who has a putrid OBP.
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Exactly
As today’s example with Barton demonstrates, a manager doesn’t make this decision in the abstract — he makes it in a specific situation, with a specific score, specific pitcher on the mound, runners on base, hitter at the plate and hitter on deck. Molina up in the situation you describe against Ziggy, in a tie game in the top of the 9th is a good sac bunt situation, esp if the next couple of hitters are better than Molina.
"And Julio Franco is batting right-handed!" -- Wayne Hagin, A's radio play-by-play, mid-80s
Correct
It may be misused a lot, but that doesn’t mean it’s not sometimes a great call.
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Except Barton was ahead in the count 2-0
Oh, and he’s had a fantastic start to the season and is one of the better hitters on the team.
That doesn’t seem like a great call. Don’t take the bat out of the hands of your best hitter.
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Taking away the ability for someone to get a hit is not a great call.
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The guy has to be really terrible for this to work out
Within the subset of players who are allowed to pick up a bat by MLB baseball franchises, he basically has to be a pitcher.
As regards the specific situation of 1st-and-2nd, while I agree that it has greater rewards than other scenarios, it also has substantially greater risks.
A force play at third base is the easiest play (other than retiring the batter-runner, obviously) that a catcher can make. For the pitcher, it’s harder than a force at the plate but easier than a force at second. And if the shortstop is shifting to cover third, it’s fairly easy for the 3B to make, too. The odds of a straight-up failure are somewhat higher than a bunt with a guy on first and much higher than a bunt with a guy on second.
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Burton Guster: Hello!
Shawn Spencer: We were turned around-- discombobulated! We... we just now realized we're in restricted waters.
Burton Guster: Just now! And we both have hepatitis!
I'd make Eric Patterson sac bunt, actually.
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Then I'd make him clean the living room.
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I'd make Eric Patterson just stand there with the bat on his shoulder
Assuming I was dumb enough to actually let him play or worse let him in the organization.
Leopold Bloom on why he loves Mr. Peter Gammons, his best buddy:
"Peter Gammons systematically ignored and/or ran down the A’s in the pages of Sports Illustrated and The Sporting News for a good ten year stretch in the late seventies and early to mid-eighties. Trust me, the c**ksucker hates our team."
but a good mlb hitter fails to get a hit 7 out of 10 times
so the odds are in much better favor he won’t get a hit rather than he will get a hit. a good sac bunter can get it down 8/10 if not better.
i’d still take a hit over a sacrifice bunt obviously, but it definitely has a place in the game, bob geren just has no clue what he’s doing.
You've got it wrong though
A good mlb hitter doesn’t get OUT 7 out of 10 times. They just fail to get a hit 7 out of 10 times they PUT THE BALL IN PLAY. That’s it. A good mlb hitters get on base nearly or better than 4 out of 10 times. And by swinging the bat instead of bunting, you’ve a got a much much higher odds of a positive outcome than you have bunting. Bunting nearly guarantees an out while not necessarily guaranteeing scoring nor moving the runner. Swinging the bat greatly increases the odds of getting on base, scoring the runner and creating more potential runs.
Leopold Bloom on why he loves Mr. Peter Gammons, his best buddy:
"Peter Gammons systematically ignored and/or ran down the A’s in the pages of Sports Illustrated and The Sporting News for a good ten year stretch in the late seventies and early to mid-eighties. Trust me, the c**ksucker hates our team."
bunting does NOT nearly guarantee an out.
i’ve seen so many botched defensive plays on a bunt, especially if a fast runner lays one down.
and i don’t have it “wrong”. a walk is different in the first place because it is uncommon for someone to go up with the approach of walk or strikeout. a walk happens because of a good AB, not because its the goal going up to the plate.
Reaching on base is rare on a bunt unless you're intention is to get a hit
And even, it’s small percentage play. And you ABSOLUTELY have to account for walks in any situational hitting. It adds to the potential of a positive outcome WITHOUT giving up an out. It has everything to do with the goal of going up to the plate. The goal is to create runs. Walks create runs. You don’t just eliminate them from the conversation anymore than you eliminate the rare occasion the defense misplays a sacrifice bunt.
Leopold Bloom on why he loves Mr. Peter Gammons, his best buddy:
"Peter Gammons systematically ignored and/or ran down the A’s in the pages of Sports Illustrated and The Sporting News for a good ten year stretch in the late seventies and early to mid-eighties. Trust me, the c**ksucker hates our team."
i agree
that it’s not always bad. But I would say it would be preferable to NEVER bunt instead of bunt the amount that Geren has these first few games. Sure, 1st and 2nd, no out, tie game, weak hitter up, I would bunt maybe 60% of the time there (to keep the defense honest), but that’s not what we’ve been doing.
The fact that we had Kouz bunt with JUST a runner on first a few games AFTER we didn’t have him bunt with first and second, no one out, tie game (the right move with a bad bunter and the corners in, IMO) shows me that Bob Geren just doesn’t think about this stuff, and did it solely because of Kouz’s DP in that situation on opening night. If you let one AB determine the tactics you are going to use, you are not a good tactical manager.
bunting for a hit
is great. Daric Barton was not bunting for a hit.
If you mean "as a sacrifice," there isn't any
Bunting for a hit— which can include bunts dropped with a runner on first when the defense is playing the hitter to swing away— is admittedly another story.
As for why sacrifice bunting exists as a tactic, it has a lot to do with the historical circumstances of very, very early pro ball— I’m talking like pre-American League, 19th century here. Back then, with oddly shaped balls, fields strewn with divots, and tiny gloves, even a “sacrifice” bunt was a major adventure for the defense to field.
It’s like the US Senate. At the time it was put into place, it seemed like a solid idea. Nowadays, it seems like a silly anachronism.
Shawn Spencer: Ahoy there! Um, yes. Right! My name is Shawn Spencer! This is my first mate Hummingbird Saltalamacchia!
Burton Guster: Hello!
Shawn Spencer: We were turned around-- discombobulated! We... we just now realized we're in restricted waters.
Burton Guster: Just now! And we both have hepatitis!
There are very few situations where bunting is better than swinging away
Especially in the AL.
Aaron King is still my homeboy... iffy mechanics and all
McFAQ for all you newcomers out there.
Why thank you!!
Leopold Bloom on why he loves Mr. Peter Gammons, his best buddy:
"Peter Gammons systematically ignored and/or ran down the A’s in the pages of Sports Illustrated and The Sporting News for a good ten year stretch in the late seventies and early to mid-eighties. Trust me, the c**ksucker hates our team."
I like the way they're playing just fine right now
Good mix of walks and hits, too.
Last of the Ninth - Photography
I already said this tons in the game threads...
but I am really loving this team! Even in the losses, I feel like they’re doing good things.
LETS GO OAKLAND!!!! <3
so how many "non-meaningless" runs did the angels manage against us
A's v Giants "is kind of like the difference between going to see the Ramones and going to see the Bee Gees. A's fans will go see the Ramones."
-BB 07/27/05
Define meaningless.
When you’re behind or in a close game, every run means a lot. The only runs I see as possibly being meaningless are those scored when you are already ahead, which exceed the number of runs that are necessary for victory. But even then, you never know what the final score will be. All runs count for something!
A free society is one where it is safe to be unpopular.
10-2 --> 10-4 = meaningless
A's v Giants "is kind of like the difference between going to see the Ramones and going to see the Bee Gees. A's fans will go see the Ramones."
-BB 07/27/05
This game is anecdotal evidence
for the slegnA’s way of outperforming their pythag projections: close game starts to get out of hand, they bring in the bullpen and end up losing by a lot.
The difference this year for them might be that the front of the bullpen isn’t dominant the way it used to be.
"And Julio Franco is batting right-handed!" -- Wayne Hagin, A's radio play-by-play, mid-80s
Nor the front of the rotation
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Interesting role that they have Ross filling
He’s like “Bullpen Day Off Man.”
I approve of not treating him like a standard middle reliever and just throwing him around willy-nilly. At this point he’s probably stretched out sufficiently that he could start a game if Sheets or Duke (or, god forbid, one of the younger starters) got hurt. He’s doing enough to win games for the team to justify his presence on more than just a developmental level.
Shawn Spencer: Ahoy there! Um, yes. Right! My name is Shawn Spencer! This is my first mate Hummingbird Saltalamacchia!
Burton Guster: Hello!
Shawn Spencer: We were turned around-- discombobulated! We... we just now realized we're in restricted waters.
Burton Guster: Just now! And we both have hepatitis!
by PaulThomas on Apr 11, 2010 3:55 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
The nice thing was they tossed him right out there in a one-run game and he performed well
In fact, he’s looked solid in both games so far.
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Agree on this
This is giving me hope that the A’s still think of Ross as a starter and that when Wuertz and Devine come back he can step into the rotation in Sacramento with a little extra confidence from his time in the majors.
If he keeps performing though,
…it’s going to be hard to send him down.
"With Chance on first, and Evers on third,
Great things from the Cubs will soon be heard."
If he performs like this
He’s not going down. There are others, Ramirez, Blevins who may get the boot first I would think.
It's also unnecessary.
Barring the rare run where the starters all go 8+ innings, there’s no reason he can’t keep getting regular work, especially if he pitches well in close games.
Good point
If you’re going to have a guy like that on the roster, this is probably a good a way to do it.
"Smokey, this be not the foul jungles of the darkest East Orient. This be ninepins. We are bound by laws."
Pitching on Wed and Sun is the equivalent of a regular turn in a 4-man rotation
so it shouldn’t be physically difficult at all for a 22-year-old to throw 50 pitches in consecutive appearances with that many days between.
"And Julio Franco is batting right-handed!" -- Wayne Hagin, A's radio play-by-play, mid-80s
Yeah, of course, the reason he HAS to do this
Is because Geren is generally inept with bullpen usage. He burns through guys every couple days so there’s a day where almost nobody is available.
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by thejd44 on Apr 11, 2010 10:13 PM PDT up reply actions
Except Ross isn't going to be that guy.
Barring fall-offs, Bailey and Ziegler and Wuertz and Devine are likely to be the front end of the bullpen no matter how well Ross pitches. So if those three have all pitched in two or more of the last three games, having Ross around to go three innings means having a bullpen even Geren can’t fuck up.
Well, this was a pretty great first week of the season.
5 wins, a couple tough losses (that could’ve been wins), no career-ending injuries, and Cust is still in the organization. Not too shabby.
I'm still trying to...
…find a place for this one.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Plm41n-pG18
"With Chance on first, and Evers on third,
Great things from the Cubs will soon be heard."
yeah. awesome.
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by Leopold Bloom on Apr 11, 2010 4:56 PM PDT up reply actions
9th inning 1 on, down 4-15
At least it will help him with his confidence.
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by Hit4TheCycle on Apr 11, 2010 4:10 PM PDT up reply actions
First Eveland, now Crosby.
Who else is going to become magically good on another team?
There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, Than are dreamt of in your philosophy.
Give those guys each a month
The sludge shall sink.
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
Even Eveland was surprised
He said he usually throws about 40% breaking balls and yesterday was mostly all fastball/change.
Last of the Ninth - Photography
Nice win
Love this start.. Love Tyson Ross
I am celebrating with bacon.
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by Rated-R Superstar on Apr 11, 2010 4:12 PM PDT reply actions
every win should be celebrated with bacon.
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by Leopold Bloom on Apr 11, 2010 4:20 PM PDT up reply actions
Pigs are wrong.
Sundown dazzling day, gold through my eyes.
But my eyes, turned within, only see
starless and bible black.
pigs don't get a vote.
if they did, we’d probably be in trouble ourselves.
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by Leopold Bloom on Apr 11, 2010 4:23 PM PDT up reply actions
A lot of pork these days though in the system
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by Hit4TheCycle on Apr 11, 2010 4:24 PM PDT up reply actions
Pigs are unclean
Ooo! Piece of candy!
by ChickenStanley on Apr 11, 2010 5:04 PM PDT up reply actions
they don't wash their hands after using the restroom?
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by Leopold Bloom on Apr 11, 2010 5:08 PM PDT up reply actions
So they're like me?
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
They cloveth the hoof and cheweth not the cud.
There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, Than are dreamt of in your philosophy.
well, duh.
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by Leopold Bloom on Apr 12, 2010 2:24 AM PDT up reply actions
Says the chicken.
Leopold Bloom on why he loves Mr. Peter Gammons, his best buddy:
"Peter Gammons systematically ignored and/or ran down the A’s in the pages of Sports Illustrated and The Sporting News for a good ten year stretch in the late seventies and early to mid-eighties. Trust me, the c**ksucker hates our team."
You go tell Ms. Piggy that to her face.. She is the cleanest Pig I have ever seen
"Whether you think you can, or you think you can't, either way, YOU'RE RIGHT !"
I have had pork chops
four times this week.
And she's ten times more charming than that Arnold on Green Acres
by EddieVegas_NRAF on Apr 11, 2010 9:27 PM PDT up reply actions
sewer rat might taste like pumpkin pie.
sock puppets have never successfully defended castles. -nm
by Leopold Bloom on Apr 12, 2010 2:25 AM PDT up reply actions
I posted GOG 2 answers in that thread.
Man that SLG% question took a long time. As did the bunt single one.
Sundown dazzling day, gold through my eyes.
But my eyes, turned within, only see
starless and bible black.
I thought that bunt single one might take a bit.
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by Leopold Bloom on Apr 11, 2010 4:21 PM PDT up reply actions
Impressive pitcher
Broadcasted one of his games last year against UC Davis at Petco Park. Aztecs won 14-0, and I was disappointed Strasburg didn’t hit 100 on the radar guns at Pet Shop Park.
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by Hit4TheCycle on Apr 11, 2010 4:30 PM PDT up reply actions
My poor aggies...
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by WhiteElephantGuy on Apr 11, 2010 6:15 PM PDT up reply actions
Chapman had nine strikeouts in less than five innings.
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by Rated-R Superstar on Apr 11, 2010 4:32 PM PDT up reply actions
Does braden throw a slurve?
He broke out that pitch in the middle innings vs righties which was tough on the hitters
It seems so.
However he throws that pitch, it kind of sits on the line between slider and curve.
Sundown dazzling day, gold through my eyes.
But my eyes, turned within, only see
starless and bible black.
That's his cutter
81-82MPH, breaks mostly in but not down.
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
He used a looping backdoor slider-ish pitch that sat around 70
It looked pretty slurvy.
"Smokey, this be not the foul jungles of the darkest East Orient. This be ninepins. We are bound by laws."
Ah, that's his curve
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
so I guess this means
that Adam gets it?
Hey, I just bought the team from Lew Wolff... who wants to play third?
Now that's our new AN logo.
Sundown dazzling day, gold through my eyes.
But my eyes, turned within, only see
starless and bible black.
meh.
it’s no Bob Ross.
sock puppets have never successfully defended castles. -nm
by Leopold Bloom on Apr 11, 2010 4:33 PM PDT up reply actions
And now we'll paint Adam's happy little...
Sundown dazzling day, gold through my eyes.
But my eyes, turned within, only see
starless and bible black.
...boomstick? (thx to Nelson Cruz)
by OaklandSi on Apr 11, 2010 5:26 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
Good starts don't make a season...
but bad starts make for a sucky April.
If you are going through hell, keep going. -W. Churchill
I want you. I need you.
But there ain’t no way I’m ever gonna love you.
There is no "i" in Teamocil. At least not where you'd think.
by GreenNGoldSooner on Apr 11, 2010 5:07 PM PDT up reply actions
A's now on pace to
win 116 games.
There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, Than are dreamt of in your philosophy.
So you're telling me that the 2001 Mariners kept this pace up for a whole season?
Jesus.
Sundown dazzling day, gold through my eyes.
But my eyes, turned within, only see
starless and bible black.
And yet, at the end of the day, they still didn't make the World Series.
I’m pretty convinced that that team will be the greatest team in my lifetime not to even make it to the Series.
There is no "i" in Teamocil. At least not where you'd think.
by GreenNGoldSooner on Apr 11, 2010 5:08 PM PDT up reply actions
There's really, I think, only one other team that you could even plausibly argue was a better team
even among the ones that DID make it to the WS, that being the 1998 Yankees.
Shawn Spencer: Ahoy there! Um, yes. Right! My name is Shawn Spencer! This is my first mate Hummingbird Saltalamacchia!
Burton Guster: Hello!
Shawn Spencer: We were turned around-- discombobulated! We... we just now realized we're in restricted waters.
Burton Guster: Just now! And we both have hepatitis!
what are your parameters for this declaration?
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by Leopold Bloom on Apr 11, 2010 5:36 PM PDT up reply actions
Winning very large numbers of baseball games?
Seems like a decent metric to me…
Shawn Spencer: Ahoy there! Um, yes. Right! My name is Shawn Spencer! This is my first mate Hummingbird Saltalamacchia!
Burton Guster: Hello!
Shawn Spencer: We were turned around-- discombobulated! We... we just now realized we're in restricted waters.
Burton Guster: Just now! And we both have hepatitis!
I like it better than the World Series metric,
but I suspect I’m in the minority.
There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, Than are dreamt of in your philosophy.
for what's a better team
I agree with you. I still like the playoffs. I like crap shoots.
"The ego, the super-ego, and the Ed" - danmerqury
Crapshoots are great as long as you take them for what they are
Sometimes Butler ends up a couple of micro-newtons away from winning the national title.
Shawn Spencer: Ahoy there! Um, yes. Right! My name is Shawn Spencer! This is my first mate Hummingbird Saltalamacchia!
Burton Guster: Hello!
Shawn Spencer: We were turned around-- discombobulated! We... we just now realized we're in restricted waters.
Burton Guster: Just now! And we both have hepatitis!
Can you imagine that team with A-Rod and Griffey
"I get nervous every fifth day," Braden said. "I figure the day that goes away is the day I saddle up behind the 7-Eleven desk."
not winners!
A's v Giants "is kind of like the difference between going to see the Ramones and going to see the Bee Gees. A's fans will go see the Ramones."
-BB 07/27/05
seeing how Cameron basically replaced griffey
probably in the same place
"The ego, the super-ego, and the Ed" - danmerqury
It’s fun to be 5-2.
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by Rated-R Superstar on Apr 11, 2010 4:41 PM PDT reply actions
Hey, height is the single quotation and the normal quotation. It doesn’t include dashes!
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by Rated-R Superstar on Apr 11, 2010 6:21 PM PDT up reply actions
Nice to see the A's on the national media landscape
Is this what it feels like to be, relevant?
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Where?
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by WhiteElephantGuy on Apr 11, 2010 6:16 PM PDT up reply actions
On the way back from the game
Thoughts on Jake Fox: those are some of the worst swings ever.
He also reminds me of Sal Fasano. If he ever hits one squarely it’ll go out of the park. Otherwise he’s just your average backup catcher. I hope Powell makes it back soon.
Nevertheless I don’t want to dwell on negatives. Like someone else said we could easily be 7-0. Not a bad first week!!
"Do I talk to myself? No, I just remind myself of what I'm trying to do. You know, I never answer myself so how can I be talking to myself?" - Rickey
Everything is better with bacon.
by cuppingmaster on Apr 11, 2010 4:43 PM PDT via mobile reply actions
We have yet to trail after 8.
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
Couldn't agree more
I just did not understand Barton bunting when he is a high OBA player. On top of that in the first inning?? Davis needs to at least fake a steal of home so the throw gets cut off.
It sounded like he made a very good catch on Hunter's sac fly, though
"And Julio Franco is batting right-handed!" -- Wayne Hagin, A's radio play-by-play, mid-80s
It wasn't really spectacular, it was more like
“Oh wow, ball, I should catch that!”
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
I was more impressed his return throw didn't bounce on the way to the cutoff man
"Do I talk to myself? No, I just remind myself of what I'm trying to do. You know, I never answer myself so how can I be talking to myself?" - Rickey
Everything is better with bacon.
by cuppingmaster on Apr 11, 2010 5:27 PM PDT up reply actions
Adam Rosales reached home plate in 15.8 seconds after the home run.
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by Rated-R Superstar on Apr 11, 2010 4:46 PM PDT reply actions
Let's see...
15.8 seconds to go 360 ft. At Usain’s ridiculous Olympic 100m pace, he would have covered 360 ft in 10.63 seconds.
Close enough, Adam.
Sundown dazzling day, gold through my eyes.
But my eyes, turned within, only see
starless and bible black.
Yeah - let's see how fast Bolt is if he has to turn three corners
BEER IS GOOD. BEER IS GOOD. BEER IS GOOD, AND STUFF.
I'd love to see that.
Leopold Bloom on why he loves Mr. Peter Gammons, his best buddy:
"Peter Gammons systematically ignored and/or ran down the A’s in the pages of Sports Illustrated and The Sporting News for a good ten year stretch in the late seventies and early to mid-eighties. Trust me, the c**ksucker hates our team."
Ya know, considering Rosales is A) Not a juiced-up world-class sprinter and B) he wasn't running in a straight line
a 5 second difference just doesn’t seem like that much.
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by thejd44 on Apr 11, 2010 10:15 PM PDT up reply actions
Whoa there
Aren’t you normally opposed to casual accusations of PED use?
Shawn Spencer: Ahoy there! Um, yes. Right! My name is Shawn Spencer! This is my first mate Hummingbird Saltalamacchia!
Burton Guster: Hello!
Shawn Spencer: We were turned around-- discombobulated! We... we just now realized we're in restricted waters.
Burton Guster: Just now! And we both have hepatitis!
he was actually at third base before the ball left the yard
"The ego, the super-ego, and the Ed" - danmerqury
I wonder if Rosales will ever start for the A's and where?
Bad pick Peyton "Regular Season" Manning!!!
Never mind just checked his numbers, only a few games tho
Bad pick Peyton "Regular Season" Manning!!!
Hellooooo, left field? Paging Adam Rosales!
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
Buck is rapidly showing why
he lingered in AAA and why he needs to get is arse back there. On defense as well.
I wanted to see him have a chance but after watching him attempt to perform, that’s it.
So he's kinda like Eric Patterson, except more versatile, good at defense, and able to hit?
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by thejd44 on Apr 11, 2010 10:15 PM PDT up reply actions
SS
Next lefty Rosales starts at SS and Ellis back at 2nd is my guess. Pennington not as good against lefties.
That's tomorrow, and I agree
"And Julio Franco is batting right-handed!" -- Wayne Hagin, A's radio play-by-play, mid-80s
Why not in LF?
Better infield defense.
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
Because Pennington does need a day off from time to time
and I’d rather sit him against a LH starter than a RH starter. Not every LH starter (he’s already started against R-S once, and Saunders today), but if he’s going to sit I’d rather sit him when the team is facing a LH.
"And Julio Franco is batting right-handed!" -- Wayne Hagin, A's radio play-by-play, mid-80s
Agree there.
I don’t think he needs a day off yet, but when he does sure.
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
Can Rosales play left field, though? I don’t think he’s played one inning in the outfield.
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by Rated-R Superstar on Apr 11, 2010 5:56 PM PDT up reply actions
Yes, I think he's an OFer too.
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
What're the chances he'd be worse than Patterson?
"And Julio Franco is batting right-handed!" -- Wayne Hagin, A's radio play-by-play, mid-80s
Slim to none.
He steps to the left, he steps to the riiiiiiight. That Amos Roberts, he'll make you look shite!
0%. Now who are we talking about?
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
We’re talking about Stephen Curry. Man, he’s awesome.
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by Rated-R Superstar on Apr 11, 2010 6:18 PM PDT up reply actions
That’s why I am watching the game.
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by Rated-R Superstar on Apr 11, 2010 6:21 PM PDT up reply actions
Damn, I keep missing the games we win.
Need to find highlights.
The funny thing about baseball is that people will believe what they want to believe. -Joe Posnanski 8/29/09
sorry. no can do.
The funny thing about baseball is that people will believe what they want to believe. -Joe Posnanski 8/29/09
So it's been your fault all these years?!
He steps to the left, he steps to the riiiiiiight. That Amos Roberts, he'll make you look shite!
At the office during the game. just before i left at 4
i checked yahoo sports…..always the drum roll, while I avert my eyes from any potential bad news about the A’s on the headlines….and go to the lower right score roll and pause for the dyslexia….and YES. So next is to see if any decent highlights on BBtonight and dredge up mlbtv highlights. the usual drill
alaska A residing in northern Idaho.
I remember
isn’t that the year Gammons predicted Crosby to be a future MVP? ..LOL
by sf drift king on Apr 11, 2010 5:04 PM PDT up reply actions
And by "05" you mean "June 05"
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He was my favorite player in 2004.
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by Rated-R Superstar on Apr 11, 2010 5:52 PM PDT up reply actions
I get a distinct "kid in a candy store" vibe.
Love it.
http://www.csnbayarea.com/pages/athletics_video
Sundown dazzling day, gold through my eyes.
But my eyes, turned within, only see
starless and bible black.
OMG. Wait. New thought.
Sundown dazzling day, gold through my eyes.
But my eyes, turned within, only see
starless and bible black.
Ha! Townsend just told emperor Nobody
that he’d read the email but it can’t be a novel since Townsend is using a Blackberry
I've tried everything I know and I've written them.
I’ve yet to hear back.
sock puppets have never successfully defended castles. -nm
by Leopold Bloom on Apr 11, 2010 5:10 PM PDT up reply actions
it's just early. They'll dial it in.
They’ve switched who is in charge of the post game show, and in the transition, they’ve forgotten to include the NRAFs. They’ll dial it in, though.
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by Leopold Bloom on Apr 11, 2010 5:18 PM PDT up reply actions
my big novel
Yeah I thought he was gonna play the Wolff interview, so I wanted to give my rebuttal LOL
It wasn’t that long at all, he just has the attention span of a lamppost, is all. Plus they cut him off, did you hear that? He wanted another 1/2 hour to play the Wolff thing and go on but they stopped him at 5 pm. He was like, well we’re going to whatever KTRB has right now, whatever and signed off.
This is what I sent:
The Wolff is at the door
Selig is lagging because now there are some viable sites in Oakland and you see SJ and Fremont speeding their processes lately because of this.
This man is the worst Commissioner in the history of all sports, making Harvey Keitel in The Bad Lieutenant look like a respectable figure of authority… let’s just say he is lucky Kenesaw Mountain Landis hasn’t risen from the dead and asked for a word with him after the Steroid Era, the only World Series ever cancelled, and now this travesty.
IMO the two fraternity brothers Wolff and Selig have outright CONSPIRED to keep the A’s product essentially on life support for the last 3 years, with several ad campaigns that bordered on the ridiculous and a radio station whose signal dies out just as the games get underway… there are so many things that indicate a motivation to just sort of let the product, as it is marketed, just sort of twist in the wind until they get what they want.
Oakland bears a tremendous responsibility in this as well, but IMO it wouldn’t matter if I built a gorgeous palace with my own money right here in West Oakland and put a big ol’ Green and Gold bow on it for them, they still wouldn’t be at all enthusiastic about anywhere in the 510… Wolff is all 408, all the time, I’m afraid and it wouldn’t matter to them if 30,000 people started showing up to see this crazy team, they’d still make every effort and excuse to turn it into a corporate Yankees-West situation in San Jose, which would be a shame.
Getting out to the game is now a Revolutionary Act against these carpetbaggers, Oaktown STEP UP!!! NOW IS THE TIME, you have no excuse Oakland and East Bay people!!!!!
emperor nobody
west O
Hey, I just bought the team from Lew Wolff... who wants to play third?
by emperor nobody on Apr 11, 2010 5:14 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
That was short for you
Townsend doesn’t know from day to day how long he has for his show… Quite an outfit, that KTRB
by OaklandSi on Apr 11, 2010 5:31 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
K.M. Landis was a corrupt, fascist, racist prick
An utterly vile person in every respect.
Then again, given the rest of this, what difference does one more item of ridiculous hyperbole make?
Shawn Spencer: Ahoy there! Um, yes. Right! My name is Shawn Spencer! This is my first mate Hummingbird Saltalamacchia!
Burton Guster: Hello!
Shawn Spencer: We were turned around-- discombobulated! We... we just now realized we're in restricted waters.
Burton Guster: Just now! And we both have hepatitis!
by PaulThomas on Apr 11, 2010 5:44 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
you could say that about just about any authority figure of 1920.
And besides, what’s not racist about the failure of the ownership of this franchise to reach out to the thousands of inner city black people that live within blocks of their (unwanted so they’ll do no such thing) facility? I sat next to some of them the other night and they are there, right there is a whole new generation, right there for the taking. A proactive, modern business in a tanked economy goes after those people by any means necessary… if I own this team I am selling dollar tickets to kids between 11-15 for every game, an hour before kickoff. Beats the crap outta playing to 436 people every night, anyway.
This Commissioner’s letting it all happen and has done nothing in his 20 years of alleged stewardship but allow players to shoot dangerous, in some cases unprecedented drugs into their bodies for the love of money and now he’s not-all-that-subtly in bed with the guy he essentially recruited to be owner of our team to oakey-doke it down to Sprawlsville, so IMO he’s worse than Landis, who for his faults would not have openly conspired to paint a picture of the Athletics without Oakland in it, had this been him in office and not Zelig.
Of course the City has sh*t the bed, we could go on for whole blogs about the scintillating degree of ineptitude and the inexplicable desire of City gov’t of the last decades to swallow literally every last crumb of sh*tpie Al Davis has been peddling for the last 20 years, of course that’s why I said Oakland folks need to get their Stroke on and support this thing NOW, no excuse.
Hey, I just bought the team from Lew Wolff... who wants to play third?
by emperor nobody on Apr 11, 2010 6:32 PM PDT up reply actions
Wow...
Just… wow… I’d love that de-rec option right now. I’d want to turn this shit brown.
1) There’s absolutely nothing racist about not giving away free tickets to anyone. If they gave them away to white kids and not the black kids, you’d be right. Give them away to no one, hell fucking no.
2) Why on Earth would they ever give away free tickets before game time? So that fans could wait until game time to get in free instead of purchasing a ticket? Um… no. Never going to happen ANYWHERE.
3) Selig has made MLB more money than any other commish. Since baseball is a business and it’s still widely popular, by the only definition that ultimately matters to the business, unfortunately he’s done a damn good job. I still hate him, but I can’t argue with his success.
4) All the BS about Selig & Wolff in cahoots is ridiculous. I don’t doubt there’s a conflict of interest anywhere, but the reality is that relation and that conflict really has absolutely nothing to do with the A’s ability to be successful in Oakland. You’re last paragraph explains way.
5) You can’t separate your personal connection to Oakland and NOT grasp that the viability of the franchise in Oakland is tenuous at absolutely best and that’s like saying Barton “could be the next Pujols”. Sure it could happen in 1 out of a billion rolls of the dice, but odds are it’s just not happening and only an idiot of a businessman would take that risk.
6) Lay off SJ. I shouldn’t have to explain that one and I’m not going to waste my breath given your rather overly emotional attempt to make your case so far.
Leopold Bloom on why he loves Mr. Peter Gammons, his best buddy:
"Peter Gammons systematically ignored and/or ran down the A’s in the pages of Sports Illustrated and The Sporting News for a good ten year stretch in the late seventies and early to mid-eighties. Trust me, the c**ksucker hates our team."
by DMOAS on Apr 11, 2010 6:48 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
point by point
1) Maybe not, but sitting in a facility smack dab in the middle of a community that you need to buy into your product for it to be successful, and making no attempt to do so due to the perception (right or wrong) that there just isn’t enough money there to warrant any effort to build the brand as an Oakland brand, tastes to me like a kind of discrimination-by-omission, where the neglect is on a kind of auto-pilot due to the perceptions the (rich) people who own the team have about the (poor) people in whose neighborhood they play.
2) I am for free tickets for all kids between 11-15, starting at 6:30 pm at the day-of-game box office, if that’s what it takes to fill those seats and make inroads on building people’s interest as they become young adults with disposable income, yes. Those people, according to your theory, are better off not in the stadium on a habitual basis, with those seats yawning emptily as the Commissioner and owner manufacture the consent they need to blame low attendance and fan disengagement for their Art Modell-like exit to The Land of Sprawl and Money.
3) Yes, he’s made quite a profit, hasn’t he? Why, he’s been for MLB what Jack Abramoff was to political fundraising, yes yes yes. I wish I had a Time Machine so I could see the apologies you’ll be making for Bud, whence several if not many players go the way of Lyle Alzado in a few years time and begin to die from the wonderful drugs the Commissioner allowed to become religion in the game over which he was practicing alleged stewardship… drugs for which the long term effects still aren’t completely known. Three short words: Ill. Gotten. Gains.
4) No, their collusion does not pertain to or explain why this franchise, trendsetter in its sport, cannot find sustainability in its current home. But it does indicate the mendacity of this Commissioner… even up to now as he plays games with the process and essentially cooks it for San Jose. My issue is the idea that he’d cook it like this…. to me Wolff is just the beard for the impetus Selig expressed in back in the early 2000s, when he’d walk into the Coliseum and say the A’s can’t compete here when the team was in first place and appearing in the postseason for literally years in a row. To gather anything from what we are seeing other than that SJ is a foregone conclusion to Bud Selig is to ignore his very public dispositions to the contrary, ongoing for years now.
Of course I know he means compete economically, but then why was/is no effort ever made to engage with the city in which the actual team plays now? You can’t tell me these people have made any effort to market this team to its surrounding area; in fact you could make a case that they have intentionally dumbed down the marketing aspect to help further create the conditions for departure. If this franchise came on The Apprentice with this radio station, for instance, Donald Trump would fire their asses, which is funny to me because it illustrates just how much sh*t sandwich incompetence regular folks will be willing to accept from rich people whose only real selling point in life is that they’ve already got money, and the mind control devices called Mass Media to make their idiocies into Feats of Legendary Brilliance..
5) Yes, and this ownership and Commissioner are doing everything they can to take the tenuous viability that has existed and turn it into the rationale for basically euthanizing the team in Oakland, with little or no effort to do anything that might provide a basis for competitiveness in the 21st century here. What about a Green Stadium? You’d think that that would be something a team like this, always on the cusp of innovation in all aspects, would be all over…. but not a word. And there won’t be a word, sssssshhhhhhh no innovation is possible and the team must go, I know. Nothing to see here in the 510, no great social revolutions of the last 50 years have started and been fomented right here, nobody with any abilities to make lemons into lemonade here, move along…. next stop, 408.
All they want to build you a nice 20th century shopping mall to go to sleep in…. is that making an effort at the kind of outside thinking it is going to take to make this franchise viable anywhere, in this economy? Even in San Jose, the supposed Fantasy Land that will make the A’s into the Yankees West? I gotta tell ya I worry that yeah, they’ll move it down there and after the sheen of the new wears off, it’ll be right back to 10,000 a night because there aren’t really any more baseball fans down there than there are up here, you know?
5) You’re damn right it’s emotional…. when someone comes in your spot from elsewhere and tries to steal what you feel is yours with nothing but the ongoing phony justification that Wealth makes for itself as rationale, it’s an emotional feeling and not a particularly pleasant one at that. Know what? I think San Jose is a sprawly, crappy, polluted and identityless city and I don’t want this most colorful of franchises exsanguinated by corporate money and impetus for the rich to get richer. Sadly, if the team moves there, I will probably end up attending as many A’s games as I have Sharks games: nil. Honestly I’d probably burst into bitter tears if I watched our team play a game in some Faraway Palace of Consumerism when all I’d be able to remember was the pain of what was lost, pathetic as it might seem to many.
If any of this is too personal or emotional a viewpoint I surely apologize in advance for any offense I have created: these are one man’s opinions and admittedly with a hard Oakland bias to them, borne of passion and commitment.
Hey, I just bought the team from Lew Wolff... who wants to play third?
by emperor nobody on Apr 11, 2010 10:26 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
oops, two 5's
but you get the idea
Hey, I just bought the team from Lew Wolff... who wants to play third?
by emperor nobody on Apr 11, 2010 10:38 PM PDT up reply actions
Dude
1. It’s not about rich or poor. The A’s draw embarrassingly low numbers no matter how you slice it. Even though we didn’t play well from 2007-2009, we were in contention from 2000-2006 and only once did we draw near league average. Average! By comparision, at Dodger Stadium (another stadium surrounded by a poor neighborhood), they have regularly drawn 3 million plus.
2. No, free tickets everyday are not the way to make money. If anything, it sets the bar artificially low for what those young people with income will expect when they are older. Moreover, though, we don’t want the seastsfilled to make the stadium asthetically pleasing; more seats filled = more money spent on tickets! Further, Selig and Wolff do not need to do anything extra to say that the A’s draw chronically low crowds. This happens already.
3. To say that Selig allowed the proliferation of steroids is silly. They have been a part of the game up until very recently, he has only recently begun to crack down. Also, don’t forget that the MLBPA had been against many forms of testing until recently, and all changes to testing must be ratified by them, like it or not.
4. Again, neither Selig nor Wolff need to cook anything up to suggest SJ is more viable economically for the A’s. For a short history lesson, I suggest you spend some time looking at newspaper archives related to potential A’s stadiums in Oakland. There have been many failed plans and supposed traction made by the City of Oakland. After reading those, if you still think the A’s should wed themselves to Oakland, then you clearly are being too emotional about this.
5. You bring up an excellent point. That maybe, in 15 years, SJ will be no better than Oakland. That may indeed be true (but I doubt it). There is a stronger chance, though, that the A’s will be able to build a strong season ticket holder and corporate box base and be better off.
You can’t also use the A’s to bring about massive socio-cultural-architectural shifts. Yes, a lot of new construction looks like faux italian or faux mission-style architecture and it annoys me. Yes, stadiums could be built that take advantage of greener building methods. In this case, with a Cisco sponsorship, it appears clear that one stadium feature will be high-technology. Regardless, the only stadium innovations worth seeing to fruition are those that enhance the fan experience.
6. In any scheme in which the A’s gain a stadium, a rich man will become richer. The very idea of attending baseball games mean, at some level, you approve of making rich men richer. But let’s just stick to facts: something needs to change about the A’s attendance in order to better compete with the rest of the league. I’m from the east bay too, and I really hope that something miraculous happens and people show up this year in droves. I’m not betting on it though, and neither should you, regardless of what the A’s marketing does or doesn’t do.
"Do I talk to myself? No, I just remind myself of what I'm trying to do. You know, I never answer myself so how can I be talking to myself?" - Rickey
Everything is better with bacon.
by cuppingmaster on Apr 11, 2010 11:42 PM PDT up reply actions
I don't really disagree
any practical stance can see at this point that there isn’t really a whole lot keeping the team in Oakland, other than the inertia of the economic situation everywhere and the still-difficult hurdle of getting 2/3 voter approval for 60 mil of public finance for any prospective SJ facility. That and the Gigantes’ territoral rights, which I’m sure Zelig will assuage with some engineered payoff to them, much as happened with Angelos when the Expos moved to DC and he whined about the Orioles being infringed upon.
I do disagree that the A’s cannot be used, at a divine moment of opportunity meeting necessity, to engineer vast sociocultural shifts…. this team remakes the sport it inhabits periodically and I see no reason why it should not be at the forefront of the greening of the sports facilities of the future, no matter where it ends up moving.
Hey, I just bought the team from Lew Wolff... who wants to play third?
by emperor nobody on Apr 12, 2010 12:05 AM PDT up reply actions
What does "greening" a facility mean, besides using environmentally-responsible building materials and techniques?
"Do I talk to myself? No, I just remind myself of what I'm trying to do. You know, I never answer myself so how can I be talking to myself?" - Rickey
Everything is better with bacon.
by cuppingmaster on Apr 12, 2010 12:20 AM PDT up reply actions
so much
too much for a comment post but it means so much, from greywater in the bathrooms to a whole new approach to concessioneering. It’s a wave I see breaking anyway and these mega sports complexes are just begging for it.
Hey, I just bought the team from Lew Wolff... who wants to play third?
by emperor nobody on Apr 12, 2010 12:24 AM PDT up reply actions
Sure, why not
I’m just not sure that’s much of a selling point for tickets. “And now, new for 2015, greywater in bathroom toilets!! Don’t forget to also check out our 100% compostable soda cups!!”
"Do I talk to myself? No, I just remind myself of what I'm trying to do. You know, I never answer myself so how can I be talking to myself?" - Rickey
Everything is better with bacon.
by cuppingmaster on Apr 12, 2010 12:28 AM PDT up reply actions
You "sat next to some of them" the other night?
I have nothing more to say to you on this subject. Get the fuck off your high horse.
I AM VERY MUCH ENJOYING THE HITTING OF BASEBALLS AND SCORING OF RUNS. -mikev
only an ZOMG CENSORED WORD FAMILY SITE quotes himself. -mikev
yeah, I sat next to several awesome young black kids
that egged me on as I (very carefully and with an eye to some semblance of tastefulness) berated an African American player and probably helped, in some small way on that last LF clam, our team win the one game this division might end up decided by.
And yeah, as I sat there having a blast with them, I couldn’t help but think of this new generation, raised on digital media and featuring a consciousness like no other that’s gone before… and that there are thousands of these very kids, just mere blocks away from our ballpark, that have never been reached out to as potential lifelong fans of this team and this franchise. That this demographic: African American males, the lifeblood of Oakland in so many ways for decades, is what is missing from the plan here, if there is to be even the pretense of an effort made to build the thing as an Oakland thing with an Oakland flavor.
When those kids were elbowing me in the ribs and whispering to me to call Bradley a bum, yeah, I couldn’t help but think of the vast, undiscovered mass of potential young fans that live literally spitting distance from where, until it can be boxed up and Art Modell-ed out of here, this beautiful thing called Oakland Athletics Baseball takes place.
Sorry if that’s too high a horse… maybe I should just not think of it in any terms other than those prescribed by the forces of Wealth and Power that have their own agenda (hint: they get even richer, just like always) and no shortage of means and money with which to express and implement it.
Hey, I just bought the team from Lew Wolff... who wants to play third?
by emperor nobody on Apr 11, 2010 10:38 PM PDT up reply actions
It's a business.
What do you expect? Look, the team’s been around since the late 60s and short of the Haas intentionally LOSING MONEY, this team hasn’t drawn well. This goes well beyond Wolff AND Selig. The attendance number have been pretty consistently poor. You’re not likely to improve attendance without losing money. Oakland doesn’t own the A’s. The A’s were stolen from KC and before then Philly. They aren’t an Oakland born product, so what if a business, that has every right to move, realizes they can make more money (what they’re specifically in business to do) by 1) not giving away free tickets 2) moving an hour south? I can sympathize with Oakland’s problems. And yes, baseball as a whole marketing to that demographic would be a more or less smart thing, but it’s not the A’s responsibility and I don’t really see how doing so really helps the A’s at all. They need to sell the more expensive seats, the boxes and the advertising, where the real money is. Oakland just isn’t the place to do that and sadly, unfortunately, neither is that demographic. It’s not fair, but it is what it is.
Leopold Bloom on why he loves Mr. Peter Gammons, his best buddy:
"Peter Gammons systematically ignored and/or ran down the A’s in the pages of Sports Illustrated and The Sporting News for a good ten year stretch in the late seventies and early to mid-eighties. Trust me, the c**ksucker hates our team."
it's a f*cked up situation
for which there is no clear resolution…. to me I agree with you it’s not about Selig or Wolff in any way but in the way that tells the recent story. Really, the city made a choice when they brought Al Davis back and let him do pretty much whatever the F he wanted short of being crowned King Of Oakland in a public ceremony of homage to his Silver-n-Black greatness [[yawn]]
I know no one can expect a rich hi-roller like Wolff to wanna shack up with a maniac like Al in the same facility, it’s obvious those two rub each other the not-right way and I don’t blame Wolff at all for wanting to bolt ASAP.
My issue is with the implementation, and how it gets painful to watch them claim they have any interest, in their own minds, in marketing this team to its current surroundings and in its current city… for me them blaming the fans and whatnot for the apathy would be fine if they weren’t at least semi-purposely letting the apathy build into a mega-ball of Utmost Disinterest by allowing their product the dual denigrations (unconscionable in modern business) of poor game-time signal strength and good, daytime Michael Savage reception where A’s-focused programming would be welcome to everyone save, well, Michael Savage I guess.
Again I meant no offense so please don’t turn me brown… these are difficult issues in difficult times and we may be seeing, with the team clearly on the ascendant on the field and in a weak-ass division ripe for the taking, a Perfect Storm forming as regards all of this, coming soon.
Hey, I just bought the team from Lew Wolff... who wants to play third?
by emperor nobody on Apr 11, 2010 11:14 PM PDT up reply actions
Really?
I can think of several authority figures of the 1920s who weren’t corrupt, fascist, racist pricks … including one who was president, and another who was a judge with an even cooler name than “Kenesaw Mountain”.
There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, Than are dreamt of in your philosophy.
Wait
A judge with an even cooler name than “Kenesaw Mountain”. Surely you jest!!
Leopold Bloom on why he loves Mr. Peter Gammons, his best buddy:
"Peter Gammons systematically ignored and/or ran down the A’s in the pages of Sports Illustrated and The Sporting News for a good ten year stretch in the late seventies and early to mid-eighties. Trust me, the c**ksucker hates our team."
Learned Hand, I'm guessing?
Shawn Spencer: Ahoy there! Um, yes. Right! My name is Shawn Spencer! This is my first mate Hummingbird Saltalamacchia!
Burton Guster: Hello!
Shawn Spencer: We were turned around-- discombobulated! We... we just now realized we're in restricted waters.
Burton Guster: Just now! And we both have hepatitis!
Billings Learned Hand, actually
The greatest judge in the history of the United States not to be named to the Supreme Court. Surely you won’t disagree with me on that?
There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, Than are dreamt of in your philosophy.
Kenesaw Mountain is a better name to me
But in my ignorance, I’ll trust you on your judgment on his judging quality.
Leopold Bloom on why he loves Mr. Peter Gammons, his best buddy:
"Peter Gammons systematically ignored and/or ran down the A’s in the pages of Sports Illustrated and The Sporting News for a good ten year stretch in the late seventies and early to mid-eighties. Trust me, the c**ksucker hates our team."
He had a cousin named Augustus Noble Hand.
Learned Hand is my hero. Perhaps I’m letting that affect my assessment of the coolness of his name.
There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, Than are dreamt of in your philosophy.
Out of curiosity,
is it pronounced “LURND” or “LUR-ned”?
Sundown dazzling day, gold through my eyes.
But my eyes, turned within, only see
starless and bible black.
the latter
There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, Than are dreamt of in your philosophy.
That is a pretty damned awesome name.
Although I might have to side with DMOAS and go with Augustus Noble Hand.
Sundown dazzling day, gold through my eyes.
But my eyes, turned within, only see
starless and bible black.
I agree that Augustus Noble Hand is the cooler name.
He was a judge too, but not as renowned.
There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, Than are dreamt of in your philosophy.
By the way,
Augustus Hand wrote the opinion that deemed James Joyce’s Ulysses not in violation of obscenity laws. Cousin Learned was on the same panel and concurred.
There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, Than are dreamt of in your philosophy.
The more I hear about the two Hands, the more I like about them.
Sundown dazzling day, gold through my eyes.
But my eyes, turned within, only see
starless and bible black.
Well, let me quote some more then:
The spirit of liberty is the spirit which is not too sure that it is right. The spirit of liberty is the spirit which seeks to understand the minds of other men and women.
my favorite lines from Learned Hand’s Spirit of Liberty speech (1944).
There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, Than are dreamt of in your philosophy.
In other words
Don’t be a douche, realize you don’t know it all, shut up and listen. I like.
Leopold Bloom on why he loves Mr. Peter Gammons, his best buddy:
"Peter Gammons systematically ignored and/or ran down the A’s in the pages of Sports Illustrated and The Sporting News for a good ten year stretch in the late seventies and early to mid-eighties. Trust me, the c**ksucker hates our team."
the worst are filled with passionate intensity.
sock puppets have never successfully defended castles. -nm
by Leopold Bloom on Apr 12, 2010 9:36 AM PDT up reply actions
no, no, no
the worst open their mouths.
Leopold Bloom on why he loves Mr. Peter Gammons, his best buddy:
"Peter Gammons systematically ignored and/or ran down the A’s in the pages of Sports Illustrated and The Sporting News for a good ten year stretch in the late seventies and early to mid-eighties. Trust me, the c**ksucker hates our team."
OOoooh
I love Augustus Noble Hand. Now THAT’S some serious awesome.
Leopold Bloom on why he loves Mr. Peter Gammons, his best buddy:
"Peter Gammons systematically ignored and/or ran down the A’s in the pages of Sports Illustrated and The Sporting News for a good ten year stretch in the late seventies and early to mid-eighties. Trust me, the c**ksucker hates our team."
I love that I can come to a baseball site and learn about Billings Learned Hand and Augustus Noble Hand. So awesome.
Though I surmise that this might be your favorite part of the wiki entry on BLH:
He became a member of the Hasty Pudding Club and appeared as a blond-wigged chorus girl in the 1892 student musical.
The funny thing about baseball is that people will believe what they want to believe. -Joe Posnanski 8/29/09
Ha ha. I didn't know that.
That’s awesome.
There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, Than are dreamt of in your philosophy.
Wow. Just wow.
Leopold Bloom on why he loves Mr. Peter Gammons, his best buddy:
"Peter Gammons systematically ignored and/or ran down the A’s in the pages of Sports Illustrated and The Sporting News for a good ten year stretch in the late seventies and early to mid-eighties. Trust me, the c**ksucker hates our team."
Of course it's worth noting...
….that that’s just what members of the Hasty Pudding Theatricals generally do. Other members have included: Theodore Roosevelt, Franklin Delano Roosevelt, J.P. Morgan, Oliver Wendell Holmes, William Randolph Hearst, lyricist Alan Jay Lerner, Oscar winner Jack Lemmon, humorist Andy Borowitz, and former Massachusetts governor William Weld.
There is no "i" in Teamocil. At least not where you'd think.
by GreenNGoldSooner on Apr 12, 2010 10:02 AM PDT up reply actions
How did Hand's WAR compare to other judges? I won't know how to rank him until I know that.
www.zekeishungry.com
by thejd44 on Apr 11, 2010 10:19 PM PDT up reply actions
Better than Pujols.
There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, Than are dreamt of in your philosophy.
Maybe
California’s had some very good ones who haven’t made the SCOTUS for what I can only imagine are political reasons (Roger Traynor jumps to mind). And the 19th century had plenty of good non-SCOTUS judges, although perhaps they only look good by comparison to the Court of the time, which was full of mediocrities.
Shawn Spencer: Ahoy there! Um, yes. Right! My name is Shawn Spencer! This is my first mate Hummingbird Saltalamacchia!
Burton Guster: Hello!
Shawn Spencer: We were turned around-- discombobulated! We... we just now realized we're in restricted waters.
Burton Guster: Just now! And we both have hepatitis!
The Wikipedia article says
Posner suggests that although Hand is remembered today as one of the three greatest judges in American history…
It doesn’t say who the other two are. Holmes for sure. Don’t know about the third. Marshall, maybe?
There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, Than are dreamt of in your philosophy.
Posner prolly thinks Posner
but doesn’t want to say it.
"The ego, the super-ego, and the Ed" - danmerqury
On the plus side, he does have a cool name.
the misspelling notwithstanding.
There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, Than are dreamt of in your philosophy.
He was named after a particularly appalling battle
which was won by the side which embraced right-wing politics and racism… so the name was nothing if not apt…
Shawn Spencer: Ahoy there! Um, yes. Right! My name is Shawn Spencer! This is my first mate Hummingbird Saltalamacchia!
Burton Guster: Hello!
Shawn Spencer: We were turned around-- discombobulated! We... we just now realized we're in restricted waters.
Burton Guster: Just now! And we both have hepatitis!
Landis was nothing more than a product of his time.
Do you ever wonder what evils will be attributed to your generation in a hundred years?
"You may glory in a team triumphant, but you fall in love with a team in defeat."--The Boys of Summer
Yes. I can think of some (but I don't wanna get political)
But I know I can safely say I won’t be known as one of those who perpetuated those evils.
www.zekeishungry.com
by thejd44 on Apr 11, 2010 10:19 PM PDT up reply actions
Shrug
As noted, there were plenty of people around who weren’t racists and who weren’t openly opposed to free speech. I mean, while we’re on the topic of “heroes,” Thaddeus Stevens was defending racial and religious minorities in the 1830s. And he was repeatedly elected to first the Pennsylvania and then the US legislature, so it’s obvious that a. people even of that day were aware that these views were out there, and b. they were at least sufficiently tolerant of those views that they did not rule out as a candidate someone who held them.
I put very little stock in “he was a product of his time” as a defense for someone’s wrongheaded viewpoints.
Shawn Spencer: Ahoy there! Um, yes. Right! My name is Shawn Spencer! This is my first mate Hummingbird Saltalamacchia!
Burton Guster: Hello!
Shawn Spencer: We were turned around-- discombobulated! We... we just now realized we're in restricted waters.
Burton Guster: Just now! And we both have hepatitis!
In 1921 President Harding went to Birmingham, Alabama,
and in a speech there told the (segregated) audience that black people ought to be given the vote.
Admittedly, blacks at that time were probably more likely to vote for Harding’s party than his opposition, and he wasn’t going to win in Alabama regardless, but even so that was still pretty fucking ballsy. It was a routine anniversary event and he wasn’t obliged to say anything controversial. He did it anyway, because that was what he believed.
There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, Than are dreamt of in your philosophy.
:rolleyes:
I AM VERY MUCH ENJOYING THE HITTING OF BASEBALLS AND SCORING OF RUNS. -mikev
only an ZOMG CENSORED WORD FAMILY SITE quotes himself. -mikev
by mikev on Apr 11, 2010 5:57 PM PDT up reply actions 2 recs
don't roll those bloodshot eyes at me
I’ll hear no complaining from anyone in 10 years when our team is playing in a Cyborg-induced consumer-automated dystopia disguised as a stadium, with 3-hour freeway waits to get in, targeted-marketed cell phone ads between every pitch and the logos of every computer firm in Mountain View on our uniforms.
Really, all kiddinz aside…. what we need to thump on more than ever is the idea of a Green Stadium, with Green jobs in a Green economy of the future… a totally environmentally-integrated facility with every Green business in Northern California involved.
That’s right, I am high enough to have just suggested the solution to the A’s problems is Kombucha Park, a big ol’ Green-n-Gold environmentally-friendly sports stadium, the 1st of its kind.
Hey, I just bought the team from Lew Wolff... who wants to play third?
by emperor nobody on Apr 11, 2010 6:41 PM PDT up reply actions
Kombucha Park
The entire playing surface is a giant fungus, grown during the offseason in the Bay.
There is no "i" in Teamocil. At least not where you'd think.
by GreenNGoldSooner on Apr 11, 2010 6:55 PM PDT up reply actions
and the seats would be sticky
(never open kombucha whilst driving unless paper towels and wipes are handy)
alaska A residing in northern Idaho.
Mean the green
This concept should not stay out of the ears or minds and memories of fans,players and would be builders. It would be hot a first of it’s type. I mean they have a green office building in Downtown Sf why can’t we build one in downtown Oakland. People might come to the ballpark just to check out the design as well. A case can be made for it on a business revitalization and a progressive challenge to other stadiums around the world.By the way to hell to with San Jose they can’t even win the Stanley Cup down there.
" sorry mom I really did run into the post trying to catch the ball and no I didn't do it on purpose"
Where can I co-sign?
"With Chance on first, and Evers on third,
Great things from the Cubs will soon be heard."
I knew I was taking a huge gamble
posting a little missive that was designed to be read over the airwaves and not intended for the nuanced AN population that grasps these complex issues on a daily and meaningful, non-soundbite-driven basis…. please understand this was really formulated to stir Oaklanders who were listening up and out to the next homestand and not intended as a practical & substantive critique of the ongoing stadium situation. I mean, Townsend complained that the one I sent was way too long, so its next to impossible to do anything on sports radio that has much light-n-shade to it, or so it’d seem.
Hey, I just bought the team from Lew Wolff... who wants to play third?
by emperor nobody on Apr 11, 2010 11:00 PM PDT up reply actions
I can definitely appreciate what you were trying to do
FWIW, attempting to unite Oaklanders to improve their own community awareness (for baseball or anything else) is definitely a noble and positive thing.
Leopold Bloom on why he loves Mr. Peter Gammons, his best buddy:
"Peter Gammons systematically ignored and/or ran down the A’s in the pages of Sports Illustrated and The Sporting News for a good ten year stretch in the late seventies and early to mid-eighties. Trust me, the c**ksucker hates our team."
I know you'll disagree, and I don't blame you necessarily
I realize I am sort of not of this world when it comes to this issue but hear me out.
You could argue, in the grand Gestalt of all things, that this is like no other franchise anywhere in sports, since it has come to Oakland and enjoyed its greatest period of on-field success and influence over the sport, from the negative (Canseco + syringe) to the positive (ten million new stats by which the sport is currently being remade at the molecular level in terms of the understanding of the science of it all) to the legendary (1970s Mustache Dynasty, Bash Brothers 1980s/90s, Win-On-a-Shoestring With Other Teams’ Discards ‘00s), this is the weirdest and most dazzlingly dressed, white-cleated squad of nobodies Hollywood’s ever gonna make a movie about.
You could say that the cache of it, the appeal, the je ne sais quoi that makes this team what it is in the modern era stems directly from the (admittedly head-scratching, sometimes horrifying) conditions under which the team operates…. that they must always be eternally in search of an upper hand no one has thought of/patented/profited from yet because that’s the only way they have a chance of competing, much less excelling.
You could argue that in the current paradigm of baseball-as-money-playground-of-the-wealthy, the A’s have provided a kind of check, by continuously setting an example that there is always another way to skin a cat, or cook salmon, or slug .600+ whilst walking a ton, or whatever it is. To me baseball is the most accessible of games, where even the fat guy can play (run, Pablo, run! there’s cake!) and the poorest kids, who grow up using cardboard for a glove, often grow up to be the best fielders… to me the A’s keep a flame of that in doing what they do how they do it, by the route of not-ill-gotten-gains. If that check were to morph into a team with unlimited resources, playing in a sort of glittering faux-jewel palace designed not to excel at innovation but to be one of the ones that just buys its titles, I feel something very vital would be lost.
I know this is wretchedly antiquated and akin to Don Quixote writing about the sports team he loves, but I am what I am.
Hey, I just bought the team from Lew Wolff... who wants to play third?
by emperor nobody on Apr 11, 2010 11:51 PM PDT up reply actions
Well...
I don’t think this team will ever really be a blank check type team. But if they do, they wouldn’t be much different than the A’s teams of the late 80s when we kind of sort of bought our team. Payroll was much lower in comparison, but we were top of the league. But yeah, your overall thought that we might turn into any other team is a little disconcerting, but I’m not 100% convinced that SJ will automatically mean that. I think payroll will rise substantially, but no where near enough to remove our level underdog status.
Leopold Bloom on why he loves Mr. Peter Gammons, his best buddy:
"Peter Gammons systematically ignored and/or ran down the A’s in the pages of Sports Illustrated and The Sporting News for a good ten year stretch in the late seventies and early to mid-eighties. Trust me, the c**ksucker hates our team."
Giants are starting their rain-delayed 1:05 game now
But the reunion of the 2000 team is off because most of the players had planes to catch. Or they had all parked in two-hour zones or something.
It's the fans that make the game fun. -- Rickey Henderson, July 26, 2009.
Heartbreaking.
The funny thing about baseball is that people will believe what they want to believe. -Joe Posnanski 8/29/09
or they had to make
the 6 pm Early Bird Buffet
Hey, I just bought the team from Lew Wolff... who wants to play third?
by emperor nobody on Apr 11, 2010 5:23 PM PDT up reply actions
Can't they use the handicapped spots?
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Apparently there are new orange-billed hats for Sunday
which I must tune in to see.
The funny thing about baseball is that people will believe what they want to believe. -Joe Posnanski 8/29/09
2000 giants team reunion, why did they win the world series that year?
A's v Giants "is kind of like the difference between going to see the Ramones and going to see the Bee Gees. A's fans will go see the Ramones."
-BB 07/27/05
It’s the anniversary of their ballpark opening.
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by Rated-R Superstar on Apr 11, 2010 6:41 PM PDT up reply actions
uhh, i know. the giants have never won a world series since moving to SF.......
A's v Giants "is kind of like the difference between going to see the Ramones and going to see the Bee Gees. A's fans will go see the Ramones."
-BB 07/27/05
no, don't you remember they had the 89 reunion last year?
"The ego, the super-ego, and the Ed" - danmerqury
I wonder what the lineup will look like in a week or 2?
It would be nice to see if the could get Rosales a bit of playing time to see if today was just a fluke. I don’t want to take Pennington out either though so maybe Left Field like someone else here suggested
Bad pick Peyton "Regular Season" Manning!!!
"Rusty Chavez"
wonder if that name change will last through the season??
After all, I’ve never seen the FO mention Chavez without the “Rusty” part since it appeared April 3rd.
Blez: Most folks seem to believe that the big flaw with the 2010 Oakland A's will be the lack of any power.
Beane: They believe it because it's true.
by One won lost won on Apr 11, 2010 5:42 PM PDT up reply actions
I missed the game yesterday so I haven't seen him play well
But if he his hitting well good!
Bad pick Peyton "Regular Season" Manning!!!
Well he's hit better than he was.
He’s lost a lot of power though.
He steps to the left, he steps to the riiiiiiight. That Amos Roberts, he'll make you look shite!
The ANTI CROSBY ?? I love it !!
Another year, another chance to hope for the team !!
How terrifying is Pujols?
Even his foul balls go 400 feet.
He steps to the left, he steps to the riiiiiiight. That Amos Roberts, he'll make you look shite!
Whereas my fowl balls just get me banned from the fitness center.
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
Use in case of that...
Green and Gold Lantern Corps
by oaklandSMASH on Apr 12, 2010 1:54 AM PDT up reply actions
Great run so far
Le’s keep it up.
"Smokey, this be not the foul jungles of the darkest East Orient. This be ninepins. We are bound by laws."
Leave it to a guy named Kawakami to continue to be a thorne in the Bay Area's side
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by Hit4TheCycle on Apr 11, 2010 6:04 PM PDT up reply actions
We've been saying that for years.
He steps to the left, he steps to the riiiiiiight. That Amos Roberts, he'll make you look shite!
Hats off to Geren for changing the A's style of play like the sacrafice bunts
The Geren of old would have gone for a big inning and wind up with an inning ending double play or the large number of stranded base runners. He did the right thing in the first inning. Davus walks,steals second, Barton moves him to third on bunt(Barton a lefty is facing a left handed pitcher)advantage pitcher. Man on third one out brilliant. Sweeney grounds out to first and 95% of the time the runner scores. I don’t know why Davis did not run. Small ball rules
Actually, with the infield in it will score more like 50% of the time --
40% of that being if it gets through.
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
Sandoval legs out a triple
He didn’t fall down – I guess nobody tempted him with cake.
BEER IS GOOD. BEER IS GOOD. BEER IS GOOD, AND STUFF.
Rajai would have touched home.
He steps to the left, he steps to the riiiiiiight. That Amos Roberts, he'll make you look shite!
I would be interesting to see what would happen if he did happen to rip a ball into Triples Alley
Especially if the RFer stopped running after the ball like the Braves’ guy did.
BEER IS GOOD. BEER IS GOOD. BEER IS GOOD, AND STUFF.
Jason Heyward plays right field.
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by Rated-R Superstar on Apr 11, 2010 6:18 PM PDT up reply actions
Good player, but he needs to learn to not give up on a play
BEER IS GOOD. BEER IS GOOD. BEER IS GOOD, AND STUFF.
Where is Marie Antoinette when you need her?
There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, Than are dreamt of in your philosophy.
At the bakery.
Leopold Bloom on why he loves Mr. Peter Gammons, his best buddy:
"Peter Gammons systematically ignored and/or ran down the A’s in the pages of Sports Illustrated and The Sporting News for a good ten year stretch in the late seventies and early to mid-eighties. Trust me, the c**ksucker hates our team."
she plays in a metal band called Jucifer
they just did a album kinda around her life a outsider who got blamed as to the research might have it.
" sorry mom I really did run into the post trying to catch the ball and no I didn't do it on purpose"
We are just like the Angels of 2002 except they had a bit of power we have none
Bad pick Peyton "Regular Season" Manning!!!
Does that mean we get to win the World Series?
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by Rated-R Superstar on Apr 11, 2010 6:14 PM PDT up reply actions
Who on the A's is in a heavy metal band?
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by Hit4TheCycle on Apr 11, 2010 6:44 PM PDT up reply actions
Death Cab for Cutie at Mariners Home Opener tomorrow
At least the A’s had Carl Winslow.
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Think we can get Green Day?
"With Chance on first, and Evers on third,
Great things from the Cubs will soon be heard."
Maybe CAKE
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by Hit4TheCycle on Apr 11, 2010 6:34 PM PDT up reply actions
< pablo sandoval falls down >
A's v Giants "is kind of like the difference between going to see the Ramones and going to see the Bee Gees. A's fans will go see the Ramones."
-BB 07/27/05
Too many more of those...
…and AT&T will be the epicenter of the next Great Quake.
"With Chance on first, and Evers on third,
Great things from the Cubs will soon be heard."
He was just hit by a throw to the plate -- who could have predicted that?
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
How fortunate can you get? DeRosa moved to third base and another run was able to score.
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by Rated-R Superstar on Apr 11, 2010 6:53 PM PDT up reply actions
He does offer a tempting...
…target. Didn’t Master Sifu have a drill for that?
"With Chance on first, and Evers on third,
Great things from the Cubs will soon be heard."
Okay, I loved the 6-9 innings today
Really was mad at Sweeney early for not scoring a Rajai run; it was so funny when Raj was on third again; he SO BADLY wanted to come home!
Rosales was awesome. Just a great game by him.
And Tyson Ross had nasty stuff, and seemed as cool as could be protecting the 1 run lead. Can’t believe he got a save before Bailey did, but he EARNED it.
Good to see Braden get the win; he deserved it last time.
"Oh who am I kidding? The A's and Giants could stage a pillow fight, and I'd still care who wins." -67Marquez
Ross almost got two saves before Bailey
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by Hit4TheCycle on Apr 11, 2010 6:17 PM PDT up reply actions
Now isnt that a great thing!
Another year, another chance to hope for the team !!
Sweeney REALLY needs to walk more if he's not hitting for power.
He steps to the left, he steps to the riiiiiiight. That Amos Roberts, he'll make you look shite!
I don't think Beane makes that trade
oh, wait, what?
"The ego, the super-ego, and the Ed" - danmerqury
I'm not really sure why you're so excited for Crisp.
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by thejd44 on Apr 11, 2010 10:20 PM PDT up reply actions
He’ll replace Buck.
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by Rated-R Superstar on Apr 11, 2010 10:22 PM PDT up reply actions
Really like the way the A's are playing!
Braden was a warrior getting dinged for 2 early and sticking it out for 6. Tyson Ross?? Who knew!! Great pitching young man! Really gave the bully a rest! Rosales? I thought they should have had him start on opening day and gotten rid of Chavez. Sorry, I’m not the sympathetic type, he hasn’t been a great hitter in 3 years. However he seems to be warming up so I will reserve judgment for a while. If he can just hit for average, it would be awesome!
Another year, another chance to hope for the team !!
I'm hoping the Power comes back once he finds his groove
Bad pick Peyton "Regular Season" Manning!!!
Patterson still gets my vote over Buck
0-3 but he swings at strikes and doesn’t swing at balls. Seems to see the ball well even though he didn’t get a hit today. Buck just flails at everything.
I figure with Patterson’s history, if he is seeing the ball well, the hits will come. And with it will come XBHs and SBs.
I am aware no one agrees with me so no need to yell at me.
Trust me, Patterson swings at plenty of crap.
I don’t believe for a second he’s better than Buck, and I don’t think Buck is particularly good anymore.
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by thejd44 on Apr 11, 2010 10:21 PM PDT up reply actions
Have to commend the way Dallas settled down
after the shaky start.
I thought we might be in for a long day but he certainly does not get rattled.
I think Duke has a much better outing tomorrow as well.
Mine's 28 --
I’ve always thought it was totally magic!!!
-Cindi
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Suppose you're going nut gathering.
Your buddy wants to know where and when.
sock puppets have never successfully defended castles. -nm
by Leopold Bloom on Apr 12, 2010 4:53 AM PDT up reply actions
The ESPN MLB homepage has a really odd picture on it.
The funny thing about baseball is that people will believe what they want to believe. -Joe Posnanski 8/29/09
...and a picture was all it was. The video had next to nothing about the A's.
And by the way, web designers of the world, PLEASE STOP putting your videos on autoplay. I’ll watch it when I’m good and ready, thanks. This isn’t 1998 anymore.
Sundown dazzling day, gold through my eyes.
But my eyes, turned within, only see
starless and bible black.
by danmerqury on Apr 11, 2010 10:07 PM PDT up reply actions 2 recs
True, but it was still surprising to see it!
A team not clad in red or blue…on the homepage…shocking.
The funny thing about baseball is that people will believe what they want to believe. -Joe Posnanski 8/29/09
It definitely was.
So all we have to do to get mentioned on ESPN—just tie for the most wins in the majors. Shouldn’t be too difficult.
Sundown dazzling day, gold through my eyes.
But my eyes, turned within, only see
starless and bible black.
or conversely,
we could all just stop participating in ESPN-world.
sock puppets have never successfully defended castles. -nm
by Leopold Bloom on Apr 12, 2010 2:40 AM PDT up reply actions
I like this idea.
Leopold Bloom on why he loves Mr. Peter Gammons, his best buddy:
"Peter Gammons systematically ignored and/or ran down the A’s in the pages of Sports Illustrated and The Sporting News for a good ten year stretch in the late seventies and early to mid-eighties. Trust me, the c**ksucker hates our team."
I don't know? Who or what were we talking about again?
Leopold Bloom on why he loves Mr. Peter Gammons, his best buddy:
"Peter Gammons systematically ignored and/or ran down the A’s in the pages of Sports Illustrated and The Sporting News for a good ten year stretch in the late seventies and early to mid-eighties. Trust me, the c**ksucker hates our team."
Three questions
1. Who are you people?
2. What are you doing in my living room?
3. What have you done with my pants?
sock puppets have never successfully defended castles. -nm
by Leopold Bloom on Apr 12, 2010 11:12 AM PDT up reply actions
hate that.
sock puppets have never successfully defended castles. -nm
by Leopold Bloom on Apr 12, 2010 2:39 AM PDT up reply actions
ESPN sure knows how to cover the a's!
A's v Giants "is kind of like the difference between going to see the Ramones and going to see the Bee Gees. A's fans will go see the Ramones."
-BB 07/27/05
wait, i thought it was for the whole week, did barton make a catch in the dugout today?
A's v Giants "is kind of like the difference between going to see the Ramones and going to see the Bee Gees. A's fans will go see the Ramones."
-BB 07/27/05
yes :)
The funny thing about baseball is that people will believe what they want to believe. -Joe Posnanski 8/29/09
damn you ESPN!
A's v Giants "is kind of like the difference between going to see the Ramones and going to see the Bee Gees. A's fans will go see the Ramones."
-BB 07/27/05
foiled again
The funny thing about baseball is that people will believe what they want to believe. -Joe Posnanski 8/29/09
.
A's v Giants "is kind of like the difference between going to see the Ramones and going to see the Bee Gees. A's fans will go see the Ramones."
-BB 07/27/05
halladay, holliday, whatevs.
The funny thing about baseball is that people will believe what they want to believe. -Joe Posnanski 8/29/09
so sad.
I would have more expected the apostrophe situation to have gotten out of hand. Come to think of it why is the “s” in IT’s lowercase anyway?
The funny thing about baseball is that people will believe what they want to believe. -Joe Posnanski 8/29/09
Same reason the "s" in A's is lowercase.
I AM VERY MUCH ENJOYING THE HITTING OF BASEBALLS AND SCORING OF RUNS. -mikev
only an ZOMG CENSORED WORD FAMILY SITE quotes himself. -mikev
His other play was better
That line drive he leaped and snared.
Leopold Bloom on why he loves Mr. Peter Gammons, his best buddy:
"Peter Gammons systematically ignored and/or ran down the A’s in the pages of Sports Illustrated and The Sporting News for a good ten year stretch in the late seventies and early to mid-eighties. Trust me, the c**ksucker hates our team."
Unbelievable.
Doesn’t even need to be said, but if it was Posada or Victor Martinez who made that play, ESPN sure as shit isn’t calling it Mark Teixeira or Youkilis.
Sundown dazzling day, gold through my eyes.
But my eyes, turned within, only see
starless and bible black.
uhh, keep reading
A's v Giants "is kind of like the difference between going to see the Ramones and going to see the Bee Gees. A's fans will go see the Ramones."
-BB 07/27/05
Aha.
My reading comprehension goes down the later it gets. Alcohol doesn’t really help either.
Sundown dazzling day, gold through my eyes.
But my eyes, turned within, only see
starless and bible black.
oh Crosby
…. He even hit a homerun today… he must have felt jealous that his #7 jersey is being worn by someone who deserves it. look at that HUSTLE!!!
so glad i am done with bobby
He hogged the covers. talked bad things about me in his sleep. I really felt Like I was in one of those abusive relationships or something.Pumped up by his father his whole life.now he is playing on daddy’s former team hmmmmmm. what would Freud say???
" sorry mom I really did run into the post trying to catch the ball and no I didn't do it on purpose"
"Putting out fire by micturating....
was therefore a kind of sexual act with a male, an enjoyment of sexual potency in a homosexual competition. The first person to renounce this desire and spare the fire was able to carry it off with him and subdue it to his own use. . . . This great cultural conquest was thus the reward for his renunciation of instinct. Further, it is as though woman has been appointed guardian of the fire which was held captive on the domestic hearth because her anatomy made it impossible for her to yeild to the temptation of this desire. It is remarkable, too, how regularly analytic experience testifies to the connection between ambition, fire, and urethral eroticism."
There is no "i" in Teamocil. At least not where you'd think.
by GreenNGoldSooner on Apr 12, 2010 4:29 AM PDT up reply actions
Freud was so incredibly full of shit...
Shawn Spencer: Ahoy there! Um, yes. Right! My name is Shawn Spencer! This is my first mate Hummingbird Saltalamacchia!
Burton Guster: Hello!
Shawn Spencer: We were turned around-- discombobulated! We... we just now realized we're in restricted waters.
Burton Guster: Just now! And we both have hepatitis!
I'm pretty sure
that he was talking about urine. . .
by el generico on Apr 12, 2010 11:47 AM PDT up reply actions
His 1-2 year old thought so too.
Sundown dazzling day, gold through my eyes.
But my eyes, turned within, only see
starless and bible black.
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