Why the A's will finish last
by FoolshGame22 on Mar 8, 2010 2:37 AM PST
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Do the A's have anyone on their 25-man roster who will hit at .300 or better? Do the A's have anyone on their 25-man roster who will hit 25 or more home runs? Do the A's have any pitcher on their roster that will win more than 15 games? Is not every team in the AL West not better than our poor, pathetic A's? Unfortunately, I say "no" to all of those, except the last one. I see dead Athletics. We have a team destined for failure. I will take my 4-year old and 1-year old out to see them this year, but only to teach them what not to be.
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oh my connection is so bad, i forgot to add...
discuss.
"I’m actually a disgrace to myself right now." - Sean Gallagher (quoting me after a night out on the town)
you don't need metrics to know which way the wind blows
"I’m actually a disgrace to myself right now." - Sean Gallagher (quoting me after a night out on the town)
No, but it's handy when trying to predict which way the wind will blow.
"The A's get some action but they do not score..." -Glen Kuiper
"Anyone who calls themselves the Angels Angels should have to start over and ride the short bus." -timmeh from McCovey Chronicles
I'll answer your questions in order Foolsh
.300 hitter Ryan Sweeney/Rajai Davis Jack Cust/Kevin Kouzmanoff (Wild card- Eric Chavez)
25 HR hitter
15 game winner- Brett Anderson-Ben Sheets (Wild card-Duke)
And if the wild card predictions come to fruition, no way the A’s are finishing last. If anything, I see them vying for the division title.
Go A’s!
"By the end of the year, I'll have Dallas throwing right-handed'' -Ben Sheets
Whatever dude...
It’s called an opinion….
"By the end of the year, I'll have Dallas throwing right-handed'' -Ben Sheets
This should be fun to see come morning.
"You're just jealous. You wish you had a rally animal..." -CardinalWraith
Could finish last or first
Could have a couple 25-hr guys or none. Could have a couple .300 hitters or none. Many questions. Might even have a couple 15-game winners — or none.
The “sure things” appear to be strong bullpen and OF defense — and that the RiverCats will rake.
Watching the answers unfold is the entertaining part.
by BlueMoon on Mar 8, 2010 7:08 AM PST reply actions 1 recs
I think that is what I'm most excited about...
… watching it play out. The last two years have seemed to be forgone conclusions. Even with the players they had, you just knew after a few weeks that nothing was happening in Oakland that year. This year, expectations are low but the sky is the limit. And with the midseason call ups that could occur… emphasis on could… it means there is something to look forward to even if the win-loss isnt amazing in July. Yup, should be interesting…
The RiverCats are going to kick butt this year. Maybe the A's will too.
I know I’m going to get down to Oakland a few times this year.
This might be the year for RAFs to consider making a road trip to Sacramento. Drive up on a Saturday afternoon, see a night game, stay across the river in luxury, or just up the freeway for cheap, or somewhere artsy uptown like The Greens, then have a nice breakfast, check out a museum or Old Sacramento, then see an afternoon game, and drive home in time to have a relaxing evening at home.
This trip is also pretty easy to do from BART to Capital Corridor to Sac RT Light Rail (with free connector shuttles to Raley Field) and back again, with all sorts of amenities within walking distance from transit.
"The rich people want what the poor peoples got, and the poor people want what the rich peoples got. You can never please anybody in this world"- The Shaggs, "Philosophy Of The World," 1968
by Gaijin_Suketto on Mar 8, 2010 3:28 PM PST up reply actions
but you're a RRCF already...
"The rich people want what the poor peoples got, and the poor people want what the rich peoples got. You can never please anybody in this world"- The Shaggs, "Philosophy Of The World," 1968
by Gaijin_Suketto on Mar 8, 2010 7:11 PM PST up reply actions
Real Red Carbon Fiber?
Carbon yes and I tan well but would not consider myself Red per se.
"-i never said half the things i said." --Yogi Berra
Resident RiverCats Fan
Orangevale isn’t that far from Raley Field. I could walk it in about five hours.
If you’ve got one of those newfangled horseless carriages, you could do it in a half an hour.
"The rich people want what the poor peoples got, and the poor people want what the rich peoples got. You can never please anybody in this world"- The Shaggs, "Philosophy Of The World," 1968
by Gaijin_Suketto on Mar 9, 2010 10:12 AM PST up reply actions
That would be awesome
Sadly I do not but I would love to meet hook up with you guys. Besides It’s rare AN plans anything in my neck of the woods. It also gives me an excuse to experience a taste of Sacramento. It’s sad I do not do it more often living so close. I see a good portion of the Cats games and it’s really a pleasant time. We are by far the most successful AAA club sense they made their move here.
"-i never said half the things i said." --Yogi Berra
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There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, Than are dreamt of in your philosophy.
I'll ride my bike!
"The rich people want what the poor peoples got, and the poor people want what the rich peoples got. You can never please anybody in this world"- The Shaggs, "Philosophy Of The World," 1968
by Gaijin_Suketto on Mar 9, 2010 10:13 AM PST up reply actions
Best - NO, Worst - NO
I think we’ve got an interesting club once again much like the ’09 squad: question mark players who, if they swing positive rather than negative, could make this a Division title team.
For all the hate on Ryan Sweeney over his power, he’s still a guy that’s hit pretty close to .300 in his first 2 seasons with the A’s. Brett Anderson, if the hype doesn’t cause an implosion, can win 15 games. Suzuki is solid behind the plate and really is turning into a great game manager which can only improve by picking over Ben Sheet’s brain.
No sense in despair now. Chavvy is healthy, Sheets is healthy, Duke is almost-healthy, so we’ve got a shot. Sure it may be one barrel in the chamber, but in a showdown that’s all you need.
It's just more exciting with Billy Beane running the team.
Of course its not even March 15th yet
so yeah…Chavy is still healthy.
I'll have a sandwich and a draft(sic). - Bill King (RIP)
Only way they finish last
If the team gets off to a bad start and is hit by injuries again. Beane will trade away some players for prospects. The reason they will not finish last is because of the pitching and defense. Not one team in the division stands out to be so much better than the rest of the teams. Texas has to many questions about their rotation and same with the other 2.
What does "I don't see them finishing here" mean?
That they’ll be moving to San Jose midseason? That they’ll say “Screw it” in July and just not play the last 60 games?
actually, I hit "post" before I finished my poll options...
looking at the time I posted it may give you a clue as to why.
"I’m actually a disgrace to myself right now." - Sean Gallagher (quoting me after a night out on the town)
by FoolshGame22 on Mar 8, 2010 10:36 AM PST up reply actions
Not polls, though, AFAIK
"And Julio Franco is batting right-handed!" -- Wayne Hagin, A's radio play-by-play, mid-80s
yep... polls stay as posted...
no editing.
"I’m actually a disgrace to myself right now." - Sean Gallagher (quoting me after a night out on the town)
by FoolshGame22 on Mar 8, 2010 10:52 AM PST up reply actions
Those are completely arbitrary stats, right?
I understand being pessimistic, but why did you pick that particular group of stats as a way of predicting the team’s failure?
Still, let’s go through them, since you asked..
1) Will anyone hit .300? Let’s see, Rajai hit .305 last year. Sweeney hit .293, and if he’d turned 3 of his outs into singles, he’d have hit .300, too. If Patterson’s on the team, he could easily hit .300, as well.
Does any of that matter? Not really. It’s not like the team will suddenly win more games if guys are hitting .301 instead of .294 or something. But, FWIW, yes, I could certainly see someone on the A’s’ roster hitting .300.
2) Do the A’s have anyone on their roster who will hit 25 HRs? Cust. He’s hit 25 or more in each of his 3 seasons with the A’s.
3) PItcher with 15 wins? Wins are obviously a terrible way to judge individual pitchers. A pitcher can pitch very well all season and not get 15 wins, or pitch badly all season and get 15. It’s really a measure of health and of the quality of the rest of the team, with a fair amount of luck thrown in. So if you think the offense and the defense and the bullpen will suck, of course none off the starters will win 15 games. If the offense is okay and the defense is good and the bullpen is good, then I could see Sheets, Anderson, Braden, and Duke (health depending) pitching often and well enough to win 15 games.
"And Julio Franco is batting right-handed!" -- Wayne Hagin, A's radio play-by-play, mid-80s
Sheets may win 15 games if he stays healthy...
but, the 15th win, in all probability, won’t come with the A’s. Did Rajai overperform last year? I don’t think PECOTA had him hitting .305 last year. Sweeney… okay, I’ll give you that one. I’m a Sweeney believer.
I think the defense and bullpen will be above average in 2010. I don’t think Anderson, Braden or Duke will sniff 15 wins. Is that a contradiction?
"I’m actually a disgrace to myself right now." - Sean Gallagher (quoting me after a night out on the town)
by FoolshGame22 on Mar 8, 2010 10:41 AM PST up reply actions
I think you are wrong
"Tonto think Billy Beane need to make team full of squirrels and bears."
by OptimistPrime on Mar 8, 2010 10:43 AM PST up reply actions
one could argue that PECOTA underprojected Rajai
perhaps because it was assumed that he’d be the fourth outfielder/pinch runner all season.
I think Craig Breslow will win
26 games due to an uncanny ability to come in and get a couple outs at just the right time. Also he will have a FIP over seven and will reveal that he is actually blind. But the important thing is the 26 wins.
Be humane. The blindness is more important.
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
I think we should change the name of the team
to the Oakland Ifs
Hey, the stat-man has spoken:
Batting average, HRs, and wins, clearly the most important stats in baseball. Snerk!
You are correct, the A’s will finish last. After all, during the World Series, 28 of the teams will already have finished.
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
With all do respect
I would argue credit score and shoe size are the most important stats.
"-i never said half the things i said." --Yogi Berra
hey, wins are an important stat...
If Sheets, Duke, Anderson, Braden and Gio/Cahill all have 15 wins, I’d say the A’s have a chance of taking the division. ;-)
"I’m actually a disgrace to myself right now." - Sean Gallagher (quoting me after a night out on the town)
by FoolshGame22 on Mar 8, 2010 10:43 AM PST up reply actions
Starting pitcher wins are NOT an important stat
Not in the sense that they tell you how good any of those individual starters are.
www.zekeishungry.com
by thejd44 on Mar 8, 2010 11:31 PM PST up reply actions
of course not
but, I didn’t say that it tells you how good any of them are, now did I?
"I’m actually a disgrace to myself right now." - Sean Gallagher (quoting me after a night out on the town)
by FoolshGame22 on Mar 9, 2010 10:26 AM PST up reply actions
Somebody's
mad that the Hurt Locker won big last night. Avatar fan?
"Their batters are patient to the point that it's annoying." -Ryan Franklin
I was most surprised by...
Jeff Bridges’ win. I knew the Hurt Locker (the only film I’d seen) was going to win.
"I’m actually a disgrace to myself right now." - Sean Gallagher (quoting me after a night out on the town)
by FoolshGame22 on Mar 8, 2010 10:44 AM PST up reply actions
Jeff Bridges winning the Oscar
was the least surprising of the awards last night. If anything, Bridges was a lock because of his performance and history of great acting and past nominations.
Sandra Bullock on the other hand….really shocked me, quite frankly. But, ya know, good for her.
"By the end of the year, I'll have Dallas throwing right-handed'' -Ben Sheets
And Hurt Locker was an absolutely tremendous film, by the way!
Good for the director for making history last night!
"By the end of the year, I'll have Dallas throwing right-handed'' -Ben Sheets
If you follow the critic awards
The 4 acting awards were locks.
Or if you follow gambling
All of the winners were prohibitive favorites at sportsbooks. I wanted to gamble on the Oscars, but the favorites had absurdly bad odds.
That's just like, your opinion...
..man.
"The A's get some action but they do not score..." -Glen Kuiper
"Anyone who calls themselves the Angels Angels should have to start over and ride the short bus." -timmeh from McCovey Chronicles
I'm thinking of endorsing this thread....
every time I hold out hope for the A’s, they end up letting me down. I think Foolsh may be on to something here. By entering the season filled with dread and low expectations, the A’s may be tempted to wait until August or September to kick me in the nads.
"You may glory in a team triumphant, but you fall in love with a team in defeat."--The Boys of Summer
lol
go with it alox!!!
"I’m actually a disgrace to myself right now." - Sean Gallagher (quoting me after a night out on the town)
by FoolshGame22 on Mar 8, 2010 10:45 AM PST up reply actions
the eventual winner of the AL West...
already signed Byrnsie.
"I’m actually a disgrace to myself right now." - Sean Gallagher (quoting me after a night out on the town)
by FoolshGame22 on Mar 8, 2010 10:45 AM PST up reply actions
Holy shit this is stupid
we in the losin baseball binness. and cousin, binness is a boomin.
by walk off bunt on Mar 8, 2010 9:11 AM PST reply actions 1 recs
With fans like this one, who needs enemies (national media).
Keep your 4 year old and 1 year old at home a cheer for the Giants. They probably look cuter in orange and black any way. This is like looking at a new born and saying, “man, that is going to be one ugly 23 year old”.
The Sacramento Convergence concept offers Sacramento, the Central Valley, and the State a solution to feasibly construct a new multi-use Entertainment and Sports Complex.
by jjham15 on Mar 8, 2010 9:23 AM PST reply actions 1 recs
I keep looking at this post and thinking of the Green day song
“Nice Guys Finish Last”
Anyway, whatever man. Have a ball, then.
"Do I talk to myself? No, I just remind myself of what I'm trying to do. You know, I never answer myself so how can I be talking to myself?" - Rickey
my preseason guess is the same as last preseason
I think it’s most likelly that they finish third. However, if alot of things go right I could see them finishing second (like in 1999). By the same token if a lot of things go wrong I could see the finishing last.
I do think that the AL West will be a close race, and that the team with the most injuries is likely to finish last.
In what position will the A's finish?
I’m hoping for doggy, although female-superior would work too.
BEER IS GOOD. BEER IS GOOD. BEER IS GOOD, AND STUFF.
I'm now left wondering about.....
DoctorK’s lot in life when the missus discovers he has forgotten to take out the trash.
"You may glory in a team triumphant, but you fall in love with a team in defeat."--The Boys of Summer
2 teams, 1 pennant
A B -3X = Swedish girls like chocolate @('.')@
by monkeyball on Mar 8, 2010 12:18 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
I know that HR's, batting average & starter's wins aren't the most telling stats...
But it would be interesting to research if there has ever been a division winning team that didn’t have a .300 hitter, 25 HR hitter and a 15 game winner. Anyone bored?
"The only way I'm going to get a Gold Glove is with a can of spray paint." - Reggie Jackson
1981 A's
Only one .300 hitter (Rickey), no 25 HRs, no 15-game winners.
Of course, the A’s only played 109 games that season due to the strike.
And I bet that there have been plenty of teams with .300 hitters, 25 HR hitters, and 15 game winners that sucked.
BEER IS GOOD. BEER IS GOOD. BEER IS GOOD, AND STUFF.
Like the 2009 Royals
"Chicks dig the long ball, although fat chicks will settle for warning track power" - Nick Diamond
Not bored, but I know that
the 1973 New York Mets lacked either a .300 hitter of 25 HR hitter. (They did have a pitcher who won 19 games, though.)
There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, Than are dreamt of in your philosophy.
Even closer.
No pitcher won more than 13 games. No one hit more than 18 home runs. But two players had batting averages of .301 and .304.
There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, Than are dreamt of in your philosophy.
2009 Playoff Teams
AL .300+ 25 HR 15 Wins Yankees 2 5 1 Red Sox 3 3 2 Twins 4 4 1 Angels 3 2 2 NL Phillies 0 4 0 Rockies 1 2 3 Cardinals 3 1 3 Dodgers 1 2 0
"I’m actually a disgrace to myself right now." - Sean Gallagher (quoting me after a night out on the town)
Now show me how many total teams that year
had those players.
"The A's get some action but they do not score..." -Glen Kuiper
"Anyone who calls themselves the Angels Angels should have to start over and ride the short bus." -timmeh from McCovey Chronicles
Somebody put Bowersox on the 60 day DL!
"The rich people want what the poor peoples got, and the poor people want what the rich peoples got. You can never please anybody in this world"- The Shaggs, "Philosophy Of The World," 1968
by Gaijin_Suketto on Mar 9, 2010 10:14 AM PST up reply actions
Oh, well, if this guy says it then it MUST be bound to come true.
My fault for clicking this thread.
www.zekeishungry.com
by thejd44 on Mar 8, 2010 10:14 AM PST reply actions
Yes, but you clicked it to see what kind of abuse would ensue
not because you thought there was any inherent interest in the post itself.
A Ballade [for the Angels Fan], by Eustache Deschamps: "We are cowardly, ill-formed and weak / Aged, envious and evil-spoken. / I see only fools and sots / Truly the end is nigh / All goes ill."
In truth, I clicked it without looking at who wrote it. It was my own fault.
www.zekeishungry.com
by thejd44 on Mar 8, 2010 5:34 PM PST up reply actions
That's certainly why I clicked it
To be honest, I’m a little disappointed that this pile didn’t get flamed to a much more satisfying crisp.
Is grover out of town or something?
Shawn Spencer: "I’m receiving a transmission from your husband. Really more of a voicemail, if I'm being honest. A status update. Perhaps a twitter."
Burton Guster: "I believe it’s called a tweet."
Shawn Spencer: "There’s no way I’m saying that."
Eh, that's too easy.
Refuting his arguments is, on some level, taking this pile seriously. I’m more satisfied that nobody cared enough to even bother.
Taken down with hearts alive, our hearts alive.
Have to agree with this
Leopold Bloom on why he loves Mr. Peter Gammons, his best buddy:
"Peter Gammons systematically ignored and/or ran down the A’s in the pages of Sports Illustrated and The Sporting News for a good ten year stretch in the late seventies and early to mid-eighties. Trust me, the c**ksucker hates our team."
That is pretty awesome
There’s a few snarky rebuttals, but nothing more. And here I half-expected people to get on me for my comments.
www.zekeishungry.com
by thejd44 on Mar 8, 2010 11:33 PM PST up reply actions
Also, I kinda hope the A's somehow have 3 starters with 15 wins, 6 hitters over .300
and still finish 70-92.
www.zekeishungry.com
by thejd44 on Mar 8, 2010 11:33 PM PST up reply actions
well they might as well forget about playing now and scrap the season
this was a little depressing, i’m looking forward to spring and A’s basrball! let’s try to be positive!
Yes! I know I personally have an iron-clad commitment to stay positive this year.
"Do I talk to myself? No, I just remind myself of what I'm trying to do. You know, I never answer myself so how can I be talking to myself?" - Rickey
by cuppingmaster on Mar 8, 2010 10:37 AM PST up reply actions
You sir, are an optimist
"Tonto think Billy Beane need to make team full of squirrels and bears."
by OptimistPrime on Mar 8, 2010 10:40 AM PST up reply actions
I think that's you
I haven’t etched mine in stone AN handle like you
"Do I talk to myself? No, I just remind myself of what I'm trying to do. You know, I never answer myself so how can I be talking to myself?" - Rickey
by cuppingmaster on Mar 8, 2010 11:34 AM PST up reply actions
wow i still must be sleepy, i didn't even spell baseball right
up late watching iron chef last night
go A’s!
I like that!
I think it should be officially changed to “A’s Basrball 2010” this year!
Ooo! Piece of candy!
by ChickenStanley on Mar 8, 2010 10:56 AM PST up reply actions
The new undervalued commodity: Awesome basrball players!
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by thejd44 on Mar 8, 2010 5:35 PM PST up reply actions
You sir, are not an optimist
You were aware this is a FAN site, right?
"Tonto think Billy Beane need to make team full of squirrels and bears."
The only reason I did not completely lose it over this post Foolish
is because I looked at your profile and see that you are pretty active on here. With all due respect, you really have to be kidding, right? I mean, you looked at the negative possibilities and are already projecting that we finish dead last and are planning on not going to games? Really? This is absurd. You can look at this team and the division and come up with plenty of other scenarios. Need I remind you of all the years the Yankees put together what appeared to be an all-star lineup, only to have them fall short of the post season?
What I suggest is perhaps change your perspective. What if this team stays healthy? What if Chavez can put together a season of at bats? What if Kouzmanoff has a great season? Suzuki puts together another great season? Crisp plays consistent? Sheets and Duke stay healthy and Anderson and Braden pitch like last season?
There are so many variants, and that’s just with our team. Seattle signed a bunch of names, but they are older guys with good resumes but are on the other side of their best seasons. The Angels lost a step and how many times did it look like Texas finally put together a team and find a way to underachieve. Rich Harden?
I raised my kids with this perspective: People ask “Is the glass half empty or half full?” I say, screw that, it’s 100 percent full: half water, half air.
Don’t write off our team so soon, it makes you look like a bandwagon jumper when this team surprises everyone and is in contention late in the season.
Go A’s!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
"Tonto think Billy Beane need to make team full of squirrels and bears."
by OptimistPrime on Mar 8, 2010 10:38 AM PST up reply actions
Pay no attention.
Foolsh likes to fire people up and seeing what kind of reaction he can get.
He also likes not paying off his bets, I recall.
"We've come a long way, and I'm not talking about Virginia Slims, either." - Art Howe
I'm trying to fire myself up...
I’ve picked the A’s to win the division the last three years. I’m Opposite Man this year!
"I’m actually a disgrace to myself right now." - Sean Gallagher (quoting me after a night out on the town)
by FoolshGame22 on Mar 8, 2010 10:55 AM PST up reply actions
Okay
But you’ve been around a while. You know how the site works. If you want to get everyone riled, you need to come up with an argument that isn’t so easy to laugh off. 15-game winners? There are several, but it misses the point. And while you even less a stathead than I am, you’ve to at least engage these folks, or they will just laugh at you.
Foolish is like a regular turned Troll.
Leopold Bloom on why he loves Mr. Peter Gammons, his best buddy:
"Peter Gammons systematically ignored and/or ran down the A’s in the pages of Sports Illustrated and The Sporting News for a good ten year stretch in the late seventies and early to mid-eighties. Trust me, the c**ksucker hates our team."
I think of him as a "non troll" who sometimes "trolls"
It’s a noun/verb thing.
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
Or perhaps Trollsh
Leopold Bloom on why he loves Mr. Peter Gammons, his best buddy:
"Peter Gammons systematically ignored and/or ran down the A’s in the pages of Sports Illustrated and The Sporting News for a good ten year stretch in the late seventies and early to mid-eighties. Trust me, the c**ksucker hates our team."
More to teach your sons than how to finish first
I would hope that your sons enjoy seeing the guys play- even if they don’t finish first- or second. I think the A’s will be an exciting team to watch this year and it would be great to focus on the positives instead of the negatives. We’re going to have one hell of a bullpen and our starting rotation, if all stay healthy- should be in the top five. True, we probably won’t hit a ton of homers, but several of the guys have the ability to hit 20 or more. The outfield play should be spectacular and the baserunning should rank near the top. This team is going to surprise you and your sons- and all of MLB this year. Have a great season watching the A’s!
The greenmachine
Ooops
Sorry- I missed the part about your sons being 1 and 4. Okay, the team won’t surprise THEM, but maybe the hotdogs will be great or something….
The greenmachine
I guess I should have known better than to click the link
Damn you, masochism!
On the serious, expectations shouldn’t be too high. But the eventual outcome might still end up being pretty sweet. Which is kind of why you actually go out there and play the games.
"Smokey, this be not the foul jungles of the darkest East Orient. This be ninepins. We are bound by laws."
I will state for the record
I think the A’s and the Mariners will both win 88 games and tie for the division.
I will not predict who will win the one game playoff.
"The rich people want what the poor peoples got, and the poor people want what the rich peoples got. You can never please anybody in this world"- The Shaggs, "Philosophy Of The World," 1968
Texas?
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
As always, you're a shining beacon.
"The rich people want what the poor peoples got, and the poor people want what the rich peoples got. You can never please anybody in this world"- The Shaggs, "Philosophy Of The World," 1968
by Gaijin_Suketto on Mar 8, 2010 4:09 PM PST up reply actions
QOTM
"Bobby Crosby at third is a bit of an adventure. And not like, here’s some hidden treasure, what fun. More like, gah! poison ants!" --alea iacta est
by baseballgirl on Mar 9, 2010 11:51 AM PST up reply actions
For me, all about Carter and Taylor long term
But also about health in the short term.
The AL West really is tightly bunched it seems and that makes for excitement. And sure, out of the 4 teams, the A’s perhaps have the least to make one think they’ll win it.
Seattle has added a lot, have the top two SPs who project healthier than our top 2. Texas has improved SP and that lineup. Slegna are champs until they are knocked off.
But the A’s, if healthy, could take it too. All this alone makes for an interesting season, better than the last few you KNEW they wouldn’t win.
And the icing on the cake, for me, is that at some point we will see Carter and Taylor.
Now, that could be depressing if all our hopes are dashed and only one or neither pan out, or look like they’ll really be as good as we hoped (i know first cups of coffee shouldn’t be judged too much, but we will get at least a “read” on them,) but this season is about seeing how healthy the SP can remain, how the new faces like Kouz do, and how seriously we can project Carter and Taylor into our future.
If even a few of these things work out, it will then be far more realistic to project next year and a few after as winners. To me, that’s a very interesting place to be this year, with the addition we could win this year if lot’s of things go right.
Deswho?
Manic Monday?
God forbid that a player or three may bat in the low .290s or have OBPs in the .370s but not achieve that magical .300 BA. Same with homeruns though they might have near 300 total bases.
But 15 wins; that’s totally do-able and may happen with more than one pitcher. How about I bet you on that one, Byrnsie fanatic, and I if I lose, I can pay off the people directly who you [Bob] Welched on in the past. Deal?
Where's that damn Anti-Rec
I want to turn this fanpost shit brown!!!!
Leopold Bloom on why he loves Mr. Peter Gammons, his best buddy:
"Peter Gammons systematically ignored and/or ran down the A’s in the pages of Sports Illustrated and The Sporting News for a good ten year stretch in the late seventies and early to mid-eighties. Trust me, the c**ksucker hates our team."
I eat a lot of pork. I can help.
"The rich people want what the poor peoples got, and the poor people want what the rich peoples got. You can never please anybody in this world"- The Shaggs, "Philosophy Of The World," 1968
by Gaijin_Suketto on Mar 8, 2010 7:12 PM PST up reply actions
YES
we need to be able to make posts brown like whoa.
we have a good team in a winnable division. We have the best bullpen, lots of young hitters beginning their prime, plus defenders at every position and a nice rotation. We could finish last, but might mean we won 80 games. We could also win 85+ if injuries dont affect us too bad.
I'm not particularly optimistic about this team
I’d give the A’s about a 10 – 15% chance of winning the division at best. And I wouldn’t be the least surprised to see them in last (nor be surprised to see it in first). And while I honestly see you as being the opposite as foolsh, you would bring a little more substance to your argument than a few mostly meaningless stats and how you don’t think the A’s players will reach any of them, especially when all but one of those were met last year which is the most likely to be happen this year.
That and I reeeeeallly like the anti-rec option.
Leopold Bloom on why he loves Mr. Peter Gammons, his best buddy:
"Peter Gammons systematically ignored and/or ran down the A’s in the pages of Sports Illustrated and The Sporting News for a good ten year stretch in the late seventies and early to mid-eighties. Trust me, the c**ksucker hates our team."
by DMOAS on Mar 8, 2010 8:13 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
A 10%-15% chance of winning a four-team division?
While the rebuilding is still in process? Sounds good to me.
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
Agreed
Low expectations and a potential for a fun year regardless of the overall outcome. No rose petal glasses need nor any end of the worldness. We’re a little mixed bag of sugary goodness.
Leopold Bloom on why he loves Mr. Peter Gammons, his best buddy:
"Peter Gammons systematically ignored and/or ran down the A’s in the pages of Sports Illustrated and The Sporting News for a good ten year stretch in the late seventies and early to mid-eighties. Trust me, the c**ksucker hates our team."
I've decided the A's slogan should be
“A’s Baseball: Going Solar!” It fits — I mean, they’re green and they don’t use much power.
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
by Nico on Mar 8, 2010 8:51 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Gave this a rec for being spot on
There’s nothing absurd about a last place prediction, yet, everything is absurd about this thread.
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by thejd44 on Mar 8, 2010 11:35 PM PST up reply actions
Nah
“A’s Baseball: Baseball Gone Green”
Leopold Bloom on why he loves Mr. Peter Gammons, his best buddy:
"Peter Gammons systematically ignored and/or ran down the A’s in the pages of Sports Illustrated and The Sporting News for a good ten year stretch in the late seventies and early to mid-eighties. Trust me, the c**ksucker hates our team."
Reply fail
Leopold Bloom on why he loves Mr. Peter Gammons, his best buddy:
"Peter Gammons systematically ignored and/or ran down the A’s in the pages of Sports Illustrated and The Sporting News for a good ten year stretch in the late seventies and early to mid-eighties. Trust me, the c**ksucker hates our team."
This is treasonous rot
Shunning and scorn are sorely inadequate for heresy of this order. Get the tar, rail, and black-and-orange feathers to go with those pitchforks!
Everybody's got a little light under the sun.
haha
"I’m actually a disgrace to myself right now." - Sean Gallagher (quoting me after a night out on the town)
by FoolshGame22 on Mar 9, 2010 10:37 AM PST up reply actions
Do not tarry!
We shall vanquish the vile fiend henceforth at once, anon!
/scene
So I was listening to Leo Sayer,
‘cause that song "You Make Me Feel Like Dancin’" got stuck in my head, and I’m a weirdo, so I changed all the words around in my head, and I ended up re-stuck on “You Make Me Feel Like Trollin’” which got me in the mood to do some trollin’, and I figured that this thread would be the perfect place to do it, so here we go…
Sock Puppets Sock Puppets sOcK pUPpPeTs, batting average pitcher wins, strickouts strickouts SOCK PUPPETS, TWSS, TWSS, Menomena (doo doo… do do do), Sock Puppets, WE’RE ALL GONNA DIE!, True Oaklanders, bEEfstEAk ToMaToEs, Sock Puppets.
That is all. Time to go get a burger at the pool hall.
Sock puppets.
"The rich people want what the poor peoples got, and the poor people want what the rich peoples got. You can never please anybody in this world"- The Shaggs, "Philosophy Of The World," 1968
Sheets wins 15 easy (if healthy)
Braden/Anderson could reach 15 if healthy and pitch to their potential.
No 25+ homers. Suzuki or Ellis probably hit 10+.
Bailey gets 40+ saves.
All adds up to 85 wins and a 3rd place finish behind SEA/LAA.
Cust?
"The A's get some action but they do not score..." -Glen Kuiper
"Anyone who calls themselves the Angels Angels should have to start over and ride the short bus." -timmeh from McCovey Chronicles
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