Duke is Back!
Yesterday, Justin Duchscherer made his first game appearance in over a year and a half. He was, by all accounts, successful, allowing four hits and no runs over four innings. Also, it appears MLB turned the PitchFX cameras on for the first time this year. Nice timing.
He's had a lot of time away from the game, so I wanted to take a look and make sure his pitches still acted the same as they did before he left. In the interest of simplicity, I just compared today's outing to one game from 2008. His appearance on July 8th fits the bill--he was in midseason form and showed it by spinning a complete game shutout in Seattle. The movement charts from both games are after the jump.
First things first. On both days, Duchscherer used four different pitches: a four-seam fastball, a two-seam fastball, a curveball, and a sort of cutter/slider. I don't actually know what grip he uses on the cutter/slider, but its movement and velocity lie somewhere in the overlap between the two pitches. I called it a slider on these graphs.
Of course, it's not really fair to compare a midseason appearance with the first outing of spring. Yesterday, Justin's pitches didn't seem to have as much bite as they should have had, but that's perfectly acceptable this early in Spring Training, as he hasn't had the chance to build up his arm strength. In any case, it didn't seem to faze Justin at all, considering his final pitching line. To be sure it was only an arm strength issue, I generated a new kind of velocity chart to compare the two starts.
This chart shows the average velocity of each of Justin's pitches like a bell curve. The height is meaningless, but the width of each curve shows how consistent he was with the velocity. A narrow curve indicates that his pitches were consistent and similar. A wide curve means that his pitches were all over the map, speed-wise. It looks like Duchscherer was missing two or three mph from all of his pitches evenly, without a significant loss in consistency. Should be nothing to worry about, as he'll gain that arm strength back with more innings of work.
The A's have the day off today, but tomorrow night they'll face the Dodgers at home at 7:35 PM. And according to the official schedule, it'll be broadcast on CSN California.
Odds and Ends
- After Justin's start yesterday, Geren said that Duchscherer should be ready for opening day. Great, great news.
- Also, yesterday was sort of a big day for analysis on the A's. Fangraphs wrote three articles on us as part of their organizational ranking series (Current Talent, Future Talent, Overall). And our very own Sal Baxamusa wrote an article on The Hardball Times answering five questions about the A's.
- Paul, I know you wanted a look at Ben Hornbeck, so here's the movement chart. Remember, he's left-handed, so the chart is horizontally flipped from a right-hander. That fastball is puzzling. It spins like a high-octane four-seam, but it only sits at 87 mph. The PitchFX system picked out, along with the fastball, a cutter, slider, changeup, and one curveball.
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GREAT STUFF.
"I did nothing. I did absolutely nothing, and it was everything that I thought it could be." -- Peter Gibbons
Good stuff Dan
I got him in my AL-only draft for $5, so I have one more reason to hope he bounces back big time.
Sweet again, Dan
One question though: so in both starts there are two “groups” of fastballs. Is one to be taken as the two-seamer and the other as the four seamer? If so, which is which?
"Do I talk to myself? No, I just remind myself of what I'm trying to do. You know, I never answer myself so how can I be talking to myself?" - Rickey
Everything is better with bacon.
The four-seamer is the one with more vertical movement.
The two-seamer is usually a few ticks slower, and has more lateral movement.
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It's very similar, yes.
But remember that this is upwards vertical movement. Or, “rise”. Essentially, Duke’s four-seam fastball counteracts gravity by 9-10 inches. (Gravity alone would pull his 85 mph fastball down by around 45 inches.) The two-seam fastball has around 5-6 inches of rise, so it appears to come in lower than the four-seam.
Taken down with hearts alive, our hearts alive.
the question with Duchscherer has always been
whether his body will physically hold up to allow him to pitch an entire season.
+1
48 pitches and now he’s ready to pitch opening day?
Not sure I believe that.
I AM VERY MUCH ENJOYING THE HITTING OF BASEBALLS AND SCORING OF RUNS. -mikev
only an asshole quotes himself. -mikev
Such a negative Nelly.
He steps to the left, he steps to the riiiiiiight. That Amos Roberts, he'll make you look shite!
Also, WTF is with that Fangraphs article calling Carter an unathletic slugger?
Just because he’s a bad fielder doesn’t mean he’s not athletic. Dude is a frickin MONSTER.
I AM VERY MUCH ENJOYING THE HITTING OF BASEBALLS AND SCORING OF RUNS. -mikev
only an asshole quotes himself. -mikev
the author retracted in the comments
i guess he meant to refer to his bad defense
"I did nothing. I did absolutely nothing, and it was everything that I thought it could be." -- Peter Gibbons
only about Taylor, not Carter.
I AM VERY MUCH ENJOYING THE HITTING OF BASEBALLS AND SCORING OF RUNS. -mikev
only an asshole quotes himself. -mikev
There's no excuse for bad defence.
He steps to the left, he steps to the riiiiiiight. That Amos Roberts, he'll make you look shite!
That article was actually pretty lousy
Fangraphs is usually a good site, but even they have their misses.
Shawn Spencer: "I’m receiving a transmission from your husband. Really more of a voicemail, if I'm being honest. A status update. Perhaps a twitter."
Burton Guster: "I believe it’s called a tweet."
Shawn Spencer: "There’s no way I’m saying that."
And by "MONSTER" you mean
TROGDOR!!!
There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, Than are dreamt of in your philosophy.
By which you mean
BEAST!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Burninatin' the Rangers....
Burninatin’ the Angels….
If Pennington manages 17 HRs, I’ll vow to consume an article of clothing to achieve a humorous effect --Joey C.
MLB network will telecast A's - Giants game
On Thursday 3/25. It’s a night game.
by OaklandSi on Mar 23, 2010 9:36 AM PDT via mobile reply actions
30 teams in 30 days
Does anyone know where I can watch the A’s installment from MLB Network? I hear it aired last night.
This is the kind of Post I like, well done!
Just good information that we can use, no lame attempts at humor, very nice.
"I get nervous every fifth day," Braden said. "I figure the day that goes away is the day I saddle up behind the 7-Eleven desk."
I like humor.
Not all of it is of the highest caliber (be honest, the same goes for professionals), but we’re lucky to have some very funny writers on this blog.
Note to Nico, EN, M67, BBG, etc,: don’t stop laughing!
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by paris7 on Mar 23, 2010 10:20 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
I laugh because otherwise i'd cry.
I AM VERY MUCH ENJOYING THE HITTING OF BASEBALLS AND SCORING OF RUNS. -mikev
only an asshole quotes himself. -mikev
So you have been watching
the sharks the last few weeks
Every day is just a little worse than the previous, that means every day is the worst day of my life.
by shooting4life on Mar 23, 2010 3:50 PM PDT up reply actions
So a graph of Pitch FX data walks into a bar...
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Bloomy. OldhamA. Don.
The list goes on. (did I really just sandwich myself between those two?!)
He steps to the left, he steps to the riiiiiiight. That Amos Roberts, he'll make you look shite!
that makes three of us.
sock puppets have never successfully defended castles. -nm
by Leopold Bloom on Mar 23, 2010 1:18 PM PDT up reply actions
I'll bring the grilled onions
(no kraut for me)
"Cheese is the fruit juice nature intended."- The Reverend Billy Lard
by Gaijin_Suketto on Mar 23, 2010 1:40 PM PDT up reply actions
and roasted garlic cloves
"Cheese is the fruit juice nature intended."- The Reverend Billy Lard
by Gaijin_Suketto on Mar 23, 2010 2:20 PM PDT up reply actions
you've delved into territory I don't want near my hot link.
sock puppets have never successfully defended castles. -nm
by Leopold Bloom on Mar 23, 2010 2:30 PM PDT up reply actions
i don't want to enter the 200 comment crappy movie link dump, but i figure some folks might find this amusing...
interview with twins assistant GM rob antony
TC: Star Tribune columnist Patrick Reusse says that FIP stands for "Fudge I’m Pathetic". Do you know what FIP really stands for?
I just saw this one the other day…might have been in a Reusse column. Is it "First-Strike in Inning Pitched"?
TC: Close, it is a pitching statistic. "Fielding Independent Pitching". Basically it is similar to ERA but removes some of the defensive shortcomings or blessings – if you happen to have Seattle’s outfield last year. Measures a pitcher’s pitching ability rather than the fielding…
Removing some of the things that he can’t control, right? At least the defensive part of it.
TC: Exactly. Along the same lines, can you tell me what BABIP is?
I’ve seen this one…I’m not going to well on this quiz.
TC: Revisiting the quiz, would you rather sign a guy with a high RBI total or a high slugging percentage?
I would say the higher RBI total.
A's v Giants "is kind of like the difference between going to see the Ramones and going to see the Bee Gees. A's fans will go see the Ramones."
-BB 07/27/05
Get Rob Antony working in the AL West
Like, yesterday.
"Smokey, this be not the foul jungles of the darkest East Orient. This be ninepins. We are bound by laws."
He's clearly bluffing, right?
So as to fool Brian Sabean. The world is a plot against Sabes.
I suspect that you think tilting at windmills means something other than what it does.
The ninth fastest thirty year old in San Francisco
Read this carefully
First off, this guy doesn’t focus on stat work, particularly the more obscure stats. There are other people in the organization who focus in that direction. He deals primarily with scouts.
Second, he values OPS very highly. He explains clearly why he values RBI over mere slugging percentage (because for a one-dimensional slugger, context is everything).
The guy, given what he knows and how he operates, would be a terrible GM. But as one of a team, his focus is on very traditional baseball methods, including personality, potential growth of the ballplayer, injury and age-related matters…the player as a person.
What I found most enlightening is that the Twins have folks in their organization whose job it is to keep track of stat-oriented fan comments. Nothing falls through the cracks.
Hmm. Wonder if the A's do the same.
Hi Billy!
[waves]
Taken down with hearts alive, our hearts alive.
I track grit
All over the carpet, unfortunately.
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
ny radio freaked me out
i haven’t been on the internets as much as usual recently so i almost pulled over to the side of the road last night. guys on 1050ESPN NY were talking about how well Chris Carter was doing at 1B for the mets. that was scary…
BK: This guy is on fire, he is really smokin'.
KenKo: Oh yeah, Bill? What's he smokin'?
OT
but since there isn’t a new link dump . . .
from Susan Slusser’s twitter account
Minor league games cancelled by rain. Gio Gonzalez will pitch tomorrow night against the Dodgers. Anderson simulated game today. #athletics
Curt Young says Anderson will throw 5 innings, 80 p with a batter standing in once rain stops. Gonzalez, Cahill both go vs LA. #athletics
about 1 hours ago via Twittelator
You have to include smiley faces - Poppy
;- ) :- ) :-O : -> : -] : -}
I'd be so tempted to swing if I was that batter.
He steps to the left, he steps to the riiiiiiight. That Amos Roberts, he'll make you look shite!
I believe they do swing
They just don’t have any fielders, and perhaps don’t run after hitting the ball?
I may be wrong on this. Slusser reported that Brett gave up “two ‘would-be’ hits,” so that’s how I interpreted it.
This is awesome, Dan
It simply made my day to see Duke back (well, not see him per se) yesterday and feel even better after seeing this. We need that guy healthy.
by Tyler Bleszinski on Mar 23, 2010 12:47 PM PDT reply actions
Good heavens, Miss Sakamoto, you're beautiful!
sock puppets have never successfully defended castles. -nm
by Leopold Bloom on Mar 23, 2010 7:12 PM PDT up reply actions
WOO
Wuertz was scratched from a minor league game on Wednesday, but bounced back quickly on Thursday, throwing mostly fastballs and sliders, although he did mix in three sliders. -Rotoworld
This is absolutely fantastic.
Great, great stuff to read! I love our diverse front page! :-)
P.S. I can’t wait for the draft tonight…I call dibs on Duke! (haha, I’m not taking any A’s players)
"Bobby Crosby at third is a bit of an adventure. And not like, here’s some hidden treasure, what fun. More like, gah! poison ants!" --alea iacta est
That's actually a pretty good rule (not taking any A's players).
As fans, we always inevitably overvalue the quality of our players and reach for them. In my other league, I tried my hardest to hold back and only take A’s players where they were at fair market value…and I ended up with Brett Anderson, Michael Wuertz, and Jack Cust.
Course, it’s an OBP league, so Cust makes more sense, but still.
Taken down with hearts alive, our hearts alive.
I read these posts, and think about the innovation on offer here
I realize my posts are like Romper Room & I need to go back to the woodshed!!!
Dan, just the idea that you thought to go back to a start that somewhat correlated to the circumstances of yesterday’s, and then busted out the graphics to put meat onto the bone of it… the effort and smarts to this post leave me pretty much speechless, no easy feat.
Hey, I just bought the team from Lew Wolff... who wants to play third?
Thanks!
And believe me, if AN ran graphs and charts every day, there’d be a lot fewer visitors. Like BBG said above, we’re diverse. And that’s awesome.
Taken down with hearts alive, our hearts alive.
Heck, just look at me --
half-black, half-latino, half-asian, half-indian, half-portuguese and at least trisexual.
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
"Fifty percent pointer—there it is! There it is! There it is!"

“I’m fifty percent Collie! Fifty percent setter, Irish Setter! Fifty Percent Boxer! Fifty percent Doberman Pincher! Fifty percent pointer—there it is! There it is! There it is! But, mostly, I’m all Labrador Retriever!”
"People need to get over the concept of TMI. Mammals are drippy. Deal with it." ~Gaijin_Suketto
Sub-85 fastball and still he gets outs?!
Not sure what to make of that. Can anyone enlighten me?
Pinpoint location, movement, and 3 quality pitches = success
Henry Rodriguez = velocity.
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
Yep.
His fastball isn’t much, but he controls it fantastically. And that curveball…that thing drops huge.
Taken down with hearts alive, our hearts alive.
So Duke is Zito with control?
Can the A’s mutate Bailey into the next monster?
I really hope that the low 80s stuff was just because he hasn't thrown in a year.
I AM VERY MUCH ENJOYING THE HITTING OF BASEBALLS AND SCORING OF RUNS. -mikev
only an ZOMG CENSORED WORD FAMILY SITE quotes himself. -mikev
Shoulder pads all round
I suspect that you think tilting at windmills means something other than what it does.
The ninth fastest thirty year old in San Francisco
And disco!
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
Magic.
He steps to the left, he steps to the riiiiiiight. That Amos Roberts, he'll make you look shite!
Dan, this is great. Thanks.
Really well explained and easy to understand.
The funny thing about baseball is that people will believe what they want to believe. -Joe Posnanski 8/29/09
Just got a new sig from the "Current Talent" article comments
"The A's have to be setting some record this year for simultaneously maximizing team quality and player anonymity. I guess that’s sort of their thing though." - Luke in MN
better hurry.
sock puppets have never successfully defended castles. -nm
by Leopold Bloom on Mar 23, 2010 7:13 PM PDT up reply actions
TWHS
A Ballade [for the Angels Fan], by Eustache Deschamps: "We are cowardly, ill-formed and weak / Aged, envious and evil-spoken. / I see only fools and sots / Truly the end is nigh / All goes ill."
bravo, sir. bravo.
sock puppets have never successfully defended castles. -nm
by Leopold Bloom on Mar 23, 2010 10:52 PM PDT up reply actions
{chuckles}
A Ballade [for the Angels Fan], by Eustache Deschamps: "We are cowardly, ill-formed and weak / Aged, envious and evil-spoken. / I see only fools and sots / Truly the end is nigh / All goes ill."
You got til end of next week, I think.
sock puppets have never successfully defended castles. -nm
by Leopold Bloom on Mar 23, 2010 10:52 PM PDT up reply actions
I tried that with my last computer. I had to replace the monitor.
"The ego, the super-ego, and the Ed" - danmerqury
Oh so that's what you were up to!
He steps to the left, he steps to the riiiiiiight. That Amos Roberts, he'll make you look shite!

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