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DLD - 3/2/10


Non-baseball stuff first:

Star-divide

If you haven't read Chris Jones' Esquire feature on Roger Ebert, do so now.

But now everything he says must be written, either first on his laptop and funneled through speakers or, as he usually prefers, on some kind of paper. His new life is lived through Times New Roman and chicken scratch. So many words, so much writing — it's like a kind of explosion is taking place on the second floor of his brownstone. It's not the food or the drink he worries about anymore — I went thru a period when I obsessed about root beer + Steak + Shake malts, he writes on a blue Post-it note — but how many more words he can get out in the time he has left. In this living room, lined with thousands more books, words are the single most valuable thing in the world. They are gold bricks. Here idle chatter doesn't exist; that would be like lighting cigars with hundred-dollar bills. Here there are only sentences and paragraphs divided by section breaks. Every word has meaning.

Even the simplest expressions take on higher power here. Now his thumbs have become more than a trademark; they're an essential means for Ebert to communicate. He falls into a coughing fit, but he gives his thumbs-up, meaning he's okay. Thumbs-down would have meant he needed someone to call his full-time nurse, Millie, a spectral presence in the house.

Millie has premonitions. She sees ghosts. Sometimes she wakes in the night screaming — so vivid are her dreams.

Ebert's dreams are happier. Never yet a dream where I can't talk, he writes on another Post-it note, peeling it off the top of the blue stack. Sometimes I discover — oh, I see! I CAN talk! I just forget to do it.

 

Deadspin's Will Leitch also weighed in on Ebert.

Rapper Lil Wayne starts his one-year jail term today.

Baseball:

San Jose voters would approve of A's moving to town, poll says. However, Santa Clarans don't feel the same way about the 49ers.

San Jose voters polled approve the A's move by 53 to 35 percent — a significant jump from two previous polls done by the same firm in October and June of last year.

Prospect Justin Souza inspired by younger brother, who has cystic fibrosis.

"When my cardio gets hard and I have to push myself, I think of my brother, and I keep going," Souza said Monday. "He can't do this, so I will. I have to take advantage of my health, I can't forget that."

Cory Souza, now 20, received a double lung transplant when he was 9 years old. Doctors in Sacramento had told his parents, Rick and Kathy, that Cory's cystic fibrosis had advanced to the point that he had only three days to live.

 

Olympic fever struck Phoenix Muni. Don't worry, everyone's OK.

"I just jumped off my couch, yelling, I was so excited," Brad Ziegler said. "Anytime we have a team playing for national honor, I really get into it. There is so much grit and passion.

"When you see someone competing for your country ... I'll always be there supporting them as much as I can."

"What a great game!" exclaimed Jerry Blevins, replaying in his mind Canada's eventual 3-2 overtime victory over the United States in the Olympics' gold-medal game. "As much as I was disappointed by the outcome, you can't fault the U.S. team for how hard they played."

"Of course," Michael Wuertz said, "we're going to have to hear about that all year from players from Canada.

The A's do not have any Canadian natives in their Spring Training camp -- none of the 20 who played in the Majors last season -- so they'll be spared any up-close lip.

 

Brett Anderson has slimmed down a bit.

"I'll never have a six-pack (abs) or anything," said Anderson, who will be one of the starters in today's intrasquad game. "But I can see my kneecaps now."

SportsPickle, run by the hilarious DJ Gallo, has its first baseball preview of the year — the Washington Nationals.

STARTING PITCHING ... Stephen Strasburg is the name to know here. The phenom should fill seats for each one of his appearances. It's not too much of an exaggeration to say he should be Washington's best starting pitcher in almost 40 years. Beyond Strasburg there isn't much. If the Nationals really want to sell tickets, they should make Strasburg a long reliever so fans can see him pitch almost every game.

LINEUP ... Ryan Zimmerman and Adam Dunn in the three and four spots are fun to watch at the plate. That's probably why the Nationals are batting shortstop Cristian Guzman second in the order. Guzman had just 16 walks in 555 plate appearances last year. He does his job by quickly getting out so everyone can enjoy the main attractions. True team player.

Poll
Which Winter Olympic sport did you watch most this year?
Hockey
28 votes
Figure skating/Ice dancing
5 votes
Curling
18 votes
Skiing (any kind)
7 votes
Snowboarding/Snowboardcross
5 votes
Speed skating
10 votes
Luge
0 votes
Bobsledding
3 votes
I was in bed before NBC showed the 5 minutes of the event I wanted to see
17 votes

93 votes | Poll has closed

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Photo day pics

Kind of boring compared to years before.

"Macha hates you"- Tacoma fans heckling Kielty

by zaniac75 on Mar 2, 2010 7:41 AM PST reply actions  

Photo day pics

"Macha hates you"- Tacoma fans heckling Kielty

by zaniac75 on Mar 2, 2010 7:44 AM PST up reply actions  

Ok one more try

Photo day pics

"Macha hates you"- Tacoma fans heckling Kielty

by zaniac75 on Mar 2, 2010 7:46 AM PST up reply actions  

Ok one more try

Photo day pics

"Macha hates you"- Tacoma fans heckling Kielty

by zaniac75 on Mar 2, 2010 7:46 AM PST reply actions  

Juchscherer

There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, Than are dreamt of in your philosophy.

by iglew on Mar 2, 2010 6:54 PM PST up reply actions  

So, why is AN all of a sudden reverting to Narrow view all the time?

They call their best player "Kung Fu Panda" and they complain that people aren’t taking them or the game seriously enough? -Nick

by mikev on Mar 2, 2010 8:06 AM PST reply actions  

Ah, you too?

Taken down with hearts alive, our hearts alive.

by danmerqury on Mar 2, 2010 8:30 AM PST up reply actions  

So it's not just me

Okay… did he break AN again?

Leopold Bloom on why he loves Mr. Peter Gammons, his best buddy:
"Peter Gammons systematically ignored and/or ran down the A’s in the pages of Sports Illustrated and The Sporting News for a good ten year stretch in the late seventies and early to mid-eighties. Trust me, the c**ksucker hates our team."

by DMOAS on Mar 2, 2010 8:30 AM PST up reply actions  

I noticed it last night at home

and now today on a different machine, so…

They call their best player "Kung Fu Panda" and they complain that people aren’t taking them or the game seriously enough? -Nick

by mikev on Mar 2, 2010 8:41 AM PST up reply actions  

Me too

AND IT IS REALLY PISSING ME OFF.

Well, not really, but it is an annoyance.

BEER IS GOOD. BEER IS GOOD. BEER IS GOOD, AND STUFF.

by doctorK on Mar 2, 2010 11:14 AM PST up reply actions  

Same offseason regimen as Anderson

A B -3X = Swedish girls like chocolate @('.')@

by monkeyball on Mar 2, 2010 11:43 AM PST up reply actions   1 recs

THIS IS RELEVANT TO MY INTERESTS.

They call their best player "Kung Fu Panda" and they complain that people aren’t taking them or the game seriously enough? -Nick

by mikev on Mar 2, 2010 2:28 PM PST up reply actions  

I thought you might like the idea.

I can’t do Opening Night after all, and gigs thought this might be a good alternative.

by lynnzgal on Mar 2, 2010 2:32 PM PST up reply actions  

What do you mean you can't do opening night.

They call their best player "Kung Fu Panda" and they complain that people aren’t taking them or the game seriously enough? -Nick

by mikev on Mar 2, 2010 2:38 PM PST up reply actions  

No you don't. You're not feeling well.

They call their best player "Kung Fu Panda" and they complain that people aren’t taking them or the game seriously enough? -Nick

by mikev on Mar 2, 2010 2:41 PM PST up reply actions  

TWSS :-(

They call their best player "Kung Fu Panda" and they complain that people aren’t taking them or the game seriously enough? -Nick

by mikev on Mar 2, 2010 2:46 PM PST up reply actions  

But you may congratulate me.

J just named me his heir to the company.

by lynnzgal on Mar 2, 2010 2:53 PM PST up reply actions  

IT'S YOUR COMPANY YOU CAN TAKE A DAY OFF IF YOU WANT

I mean, congratulations. You should hire me to do all your IT work.

Remotely.

They call their best player "Kung Fu Panda" and they complain that people aren’t taking them or the game seriously enough? -Nick

by mikev on Mar 2, 2010 3:04 PM PST up reply actions  

Lol!

That wouldn’t pay much, Mikey.

by lynnzgal on Mar 2, 2010 3:10 PM PST up reply actions  

that's OK

I wouldn’t do much.

;)

They call their best player "Kung Fu Panda" and they complain that people aren’t taking them or the game seriously enough? -Nick

by mikev on Mar 2, 2010 3:11 PM PST up reply actions  

Yes.

There's no crying in baseball!

by gigglingone on Mar 2, 2010 2:57 PM PST up reply actions  

I'm in

"Don't look back. Something might be gaining on you." - Satchel Paige

by YonYonson on Mar 2, 2010 5:52 PM PST up reply actions  

I'm in a pub, drinking warm beer, sititng near a log fire.

At least, I think I am. I might be asleep in Schipol Airport dreaming all this.

it is weird, but right now, quite good.

I suspect that you think tilting at windmills means something other than what it does.

The ninth fastest thirty year old in San Francisco

by bobnothing on Mar 2, 2010 9:50 AM PST reply actions  

I love the dutch.

I suspect that you think tilting at windmills means something other than what it does.

The ninth fastest thirty year old in San Francisco

by bobnothing on Mar 4, 2010 9:40 AM PST up reply actions  

"There's two things I hate. People who are intolerant of other people, and the Dutch"

-Nigel Powers

You have to include smiley faces - Poppy
;- ) :- ) :-O : -> : -] : -}

by micdog2001 on Mar 4, 2010 10:57 AM PST up reply actions  

I am Dutch

Well, Frisian. But we’re better looking!

If Pennington manages 17 HRs, I’ll vow to consume an article of clothing to achieve a humorous effect --Joey C.

by cityplANner on Mar 5, 2010 5:54 PM PST up reply actions  

Good milk and good cheese is good English and good Fries

"And Julio Franco is batting right-handed!" -- Wayne Hagin, A's radio play-by-play, mid-80s

by Nick on Mar 5, 2010 8:18 PM PST up reply actions  

I'm 1/4 Frisian.

My mother’s mother.

There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, Than are dreamt of in your philosophy.

by iglew on Mar 5, 2010 9:24 PM PST up reply actions  

I love the quote from Brett Anderson!

Dude, if you can’t see your knees you know it’s time to lay of the late night chili dogs….

:0

"By the end of the year, I'll have Dallas throwing right-handed'' -Ben Sheets

by mrod on Mar 2, 2010 10:10 AM PST reply actions  

Just noticed an interesting stat

You know which pitcher is 5th all-time in career strikeout-walk ratio?

Ben Sheets.

You know who’s 6th?

Dan Haren.

"And Julio Franco is batting right-handed!" -- Wayne Hagin, A's radio play-by-play, mid-80s

by Nick on Mar 2, 2010 10:10 AM PST reply actions  

Interesting.....

"By the end of the year, I'll have Dallas throwing right-handed'' -Ben Sheets

by mrod on Mar 2, 2010 10:13 AM PST up reply actions  

Video Games

Today, MLB 2K10 and MLB ’10: The Show are out. I am playing MLB ’10: The Show right now.

The Ultimate Opportunist

by Rated-R Superstar on Mar 2, 2010 10:49 AM PST reply actions  

Yes

Speaking of which, I must get back over there!

The Ultimate Opportunist

by Rated-R Superstar on Mar 2, 2010 10:59 AM PST up reply actions  

We want a review

PREPAREDNESS_Because those goddamn zombies aren’t going to kill themselves

by adragon on Mar 2, 2010 11:16 AM PST up reply actions  

Crap

When is it due, teacher?

The Ultimate Opportunist

by Rated-R Superstar on Mar 2, 2010 3:21 PM PST up reply actions  

Yesterday.

There's no crying in baseball!

by gigglingone on Mar 2, 2010 3:23 PM PST up reply actions  

Impossible

The game was just released today!

The Ultimate Opportunist

by Rated-R Superstar on Mar 2, 2010 3:25 PM PST up reply actions  

Did Professor Gigs stutter?!

GET TO WORK, SB!

sock puppets have never successfully defended castles. -nm

by Leopold Bloom on Mar 2, 2010 3:36 PM PST up reply actions  

Is it cool?

They call their best player "Kung Fu Panda" and they complain that people aren’t taking them or the game seriously enough? -Nick

by mikev on Mar 2, 2010 11:13 AM PST up reply actions  

The real question:

Is it cooler than MVP 2005?

"The rich people want what the poor peoples got, and the poor people want what the rich peoples got. You can never please anybody in this world"- The Shaggs, "Philosophy Of The World," 1968

by Gaijin_Suketto on Mar 2, 2010 12:59 PM PST up reply actions  

answer:

No.

They call their best player "Kung Fu Panda" and they complain that people aren’t taking them or the game seriously enough? -Nick

by mikev on Mar 2, 2010 1:03 PM PST up reply actions  

That's all I need to know...

In my current game (my drunk friend accidentally erased my NINE SEASON LONG dynasty <A’s nine-peat, of course!>),

the computer randomly generated a AAA catcher under Leopold_Bloom’s real name, and holy fuckbiscuits is he on fire! I brought him up to the show in “May” and he might just make the all-star team. Dude’s already won me three games as a walkoff, twice with walks and once with a walkoff 2-run shot.

"The rich people want what the poor peoples got, and the poor people want what the rich peoples got. You can never please anybody in this world"- The Shaggs, "Philosophy Of The World," 1968

by Gaijin_Suketto on Mar 2, 2010 3:40 PM PST up reply actions  

fantasy-me is insanely skilled.

Women want him and men want to be him.

He parties like a rock star, rocks the Casbah, and rocks Falco on Amadeus’ off-days.

In fact, he stole all my rock on.

Bastard. I still love him, though.

sock puppets have never successfully defended castles. -nm

by Leopold Bloom on Mar 2, 2010 3:53 PM PST up reply actions  

It's all those holy fuckbiscuits he eats.

You should try them.

There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, Than are dreamt of in your philosophy.

by iglew on Mar 2, 2010 6:57 PM PST up reply actions  

It's all he can afford on his salary...

I’ve got him on a 6 yr, 1.2m contract.

"The rich people want what the poor peoples got, and the poor people want what the rich peoples got. You can never please anybody in this world"- The Shaggs, "Philosophy Of The World," 1968

by Gaijin_Suketto on Mar 2, 2010 10:58 PM PST up reply actions  

I call him G_S Comiskey.

sock puppets have never successfully defended castles. -nm

by Leopold Bloom on Mar 3, 2010 3:26 PM PST up reply actions  

Throw the World Series, I dares ya!

"The rich people want what the poor peoples got, and the poor people want what the rich peoples got. You can never please anybody in this world"- The Shaggs, "Philosophy Of The World," 1968

by Gaijin_Suketto on Mar 3, 2010 4:07 PM PST up reply actions  

Sure

It is super fun.

The Ultimate Opportunist

by Rated-R Superstar on Mar 2, 2010 1:11 PM PST up reply actions  

This is my first chance to get The Show...

… now that I have a PS3 post-Christmas. So, questions:

1) Do you like it better than the 2K series?
2) How off are the rosters in The Show (not ratings, mind you, just missing players, unsigned FAs, etc.)?
3) How bad are the A’s?

"Smokey, this be not the foul jungles of the darkest East Orient. This be ninepins. We are bound by laws."

by Joey C. on Mar 2, 2010 1:34 PM PST up reply actions  

There is no comparison, the Show is a million times better than 2K

The rosters arent too bad, most people are where they should be from what I’ve seen.

As for the A’s….

They are 23 overall
17 in defense
8 in pitching
30 in hitting

What you fail to understand in your joyless myopia is that baseball is the key to life-- the Rosetta Stone, if you will. If you just understood baseball better all your other questions your, your... the, uh... the aliens, the conspiracies they would all, in their way be answered by the baseball gods.

by winchester5 on Mar 2, 2010 2:50 PM PST up reply actions  

Out of what? 50? 100?

They call their best player "Kung Fu Panda" and they complain that people aren’t taking them or the game seriously enough? -Nick

by mikev on Mar 2, 2010 2:51 PM PST up reply actions  

I'm guessing those are their rankings in relation to the rest of the league

Although the defensive ranking seems low, the pitching and hitting make a lot of sense under that rubric.

"Smokey, this be not the foul jungles of the darkest East Orient. This be ninepins. We are bound by laws."

by Joey C. on Mar 2, 2010 4:44 PM PST up reply actions  

Yeah, Joey, it is their rankings relative to the league.

What you fail to understand in your joyless myopia is that baseball is the key to life-- the Rosetta Stone, if you will. If you just understood baseball better all your other questions your, your... the, uh... the aliens, the conspiracies they would all, in their way be answered by the baseball gods.

by winchester5 on Mar 2, 2010 5:31 PM PST up reply actions  

Agreed

As far as rosters go, you can always update them.

The Ultimate Opportunist

by Rated-R Superstar on Mar 2, 2010 3:23 PM PST up reply actions  

17 in defense?

wtf? I hate those ranking systems, they’re always bogus.

"The A's get some action but they do not score..." -Glen Kuiper

"Anyone who calls themselves the Angels Angels should have to start over and ride the short bus." -timmeh from McCovey Chronicles

by Cheezombie on Mar 2, 2010 6:32 PM PST up reply actions  

ranking the a's offense dead last out of all 30 teams is even dumber

A's v Giants "is kind of like the difference between going to see the Ramones and going to see the Bee Gees. A's fans will go see the Ramones."
-BB 07/27/05

by xbhaskarx on Mar 2, 2010 8:27 PM PST up reply actions  

Is it?

I mean, we’re not no. 30, but I could see how someone might think that. But who could look at our lineup at see a 17th-ranked defense?

Taken down with hearts alive, our hearts alive.

by danmerqury on Mar 2, 2010 8:33 PM PST up reply actions  

going by runs scored?

there’s no way the a’s are outscored by all of kc, sea, tor, bal, cws, pit, sf, was, sd, hou and cin.

A's v Giants "is kind of like the difference between going to see the Ramones and going to see the Bee Gees. A's fans will go see the Ramones."
-BB 07/27/05

by xbhaskarx on Mar 3, 2010 9:42 AM PST up reply actions  

Fair enough.

But I’m still scratching my head on how they could get the defense ranking so wrong.

Taken down with hearts alive, our hearts alive.

by danmerqury on Mar 3, 2010 10:06 AM PST up reply actions  

After buying and playing the game last night...

… I can say that they definitely do not look at their Fangraphs info. Raj is underappreciated, but Sweeney is rated as below-average… in left field. Just as an example.

"Smokey, this be not the foul jungles of the darkest East Orient. This be ninepins. We are bound by laws."

by Joey C. on Mar 3, 2010 11:48 AM PST up reply actions  

It's odd.

You’d think that of all sports, baseball is the one that offers the greatest opportunity to make a true close-to-perfect simulator, what with the wealth of statistical data and all.

Taken down with hearts alive, our hearts alive.

by danmerqury on Mar 3, 2010 1:42 PM PST up reply actions  

The point isn't to simulate baseball

The point is to simulate what people think baseball is. Thus, players have identifiable hot streaks and slumps, get noticeably better in games where they’ve led off with a home run, record dramatically worse BABIP against elite pitchers, and basically do all the things that you would intuitively (but wrongly) think that real-life players do.

It’s much simpler to pander to the audience than to use a game as some kind of didactic exercise.

Shawn Spencer: "I’m receiving a transmission from your husband. Really more of a voicemail, if I'm being honest. A status update. Perhaps a twitter."
Burton Guster: "I believe it’s called a tweet."
Shawn Spencer: "There’s no way I’m saying that."

by PaulThomas on Mar 3, 2010 11:38 PM PST up reply actions  

If the simulation were perfect,

you’d have to wait till April before you can play.

And you could only play once a day, or occasionally twice.

And you can’t play if it’s raining outside.

There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, Than are dreamt of in your philosophy.

by iglew on Mar 4, 2010 12:18 AM PST up reply actions  

Doesn't EA Sports tout Madden as an accurate predictor of football games?

Or is that just ESPN on a slow news day?

I suppose I get why they put things like hot streaks in, but rating the A’s 17th on defense is akin to making Michael Vick a slow runner. It’s just factually wrong, and it’s not something that the public believes to be true either.

Taken down with hearts alive, our hearts alive.

by danmerqury on Mar 4, 2010 12:35 AM PST up reply actions  

I thought most Madden games had scores of like 70-56 if you played a full 60-minute game

Shawn Spencer: "I’m receiving a transmission from your husband. Really more of a voicemail, if I'm being honest. A status update. Perhaps a twitter."
Burton Guster: "I believe it’s called a tweet."
Shawn Spencer: "There’s no way I’m saying that."

by PaulThomas on Mar 4, 2010 1:58 PM PST up reply actions  

They seem to.

But doesn’t ESPN always talk about how “Madden predicted the Saints to win!!!”?

Taken down with hearts alive, our hearts alive.

by danmerqury on Mar 4, 2010 6:25 PM PST up reply actions  

Yeah that is pretty dumb, especially since they only scored what, 30 runs less than texas? In a pitchers park.

"The A's get some action but they do not score..." -Glen Kuiper

"Anyone who calls themselves the Angels Angels should have to start over and ride the short bus." -timmeh from McCovey Chronicles

by Cheezombie on Mar 2, 2010 10:02 PM PST up reply actions  

I keep getting drawn back to iglew's WLD

but I should post here on the general principle that link dumps should be daily!

I know that there are some Wire fans on AN. I got a kick out of this video, comparing three Wire songs to songs that Elastica “wrote” 15 years later. I guess if they are going to rip someone off, then at least they chose a really good band. Evidently this whole business resulted in a lawsuit — link

by colin on Mar 2, 2010 11:04 AM PST reply actions  

obviously wire are much more impressive in every way, but many of the songs from elastica's album are quite catchy

A's v Giants "is kind of like the difference between going to see the Ramones and going to see the Bee Gees. A's fans will go see the Ramones."
-BB 07/27/05

by xbhaskarx on Mar 2, 2010 11:34 AM PST up reply actions  

I knew about "Connection"

but not the other two.

That’s how I got into Wire, oddly enough. Some old crustpunk I used to drink with heard “Connection” on the radio, back in 1995, and yelled out “That’s a f’n Wire song. Stupid C***s!”

I asked him more about Wire and he played me Manic Hispanic’s cover of “12xU”, which is pretty awesomesauce. I bought “Pink Flag” shortly thereafter, and it didn’t really do it for me. However, “Chairs Missing” (with bonus tracks) blew my mind sideways, and I later grew to love “Pink Flag” and “154”.

"The rich people want what the poor peoples got, and the poor people want what the rich peoples got. You can never please anybody in this world"- The Shaggs, "Philosophy Of The World," 1968

by Gaijin_Suketto on Mar 2, 2010 12:57 PM PST up reply actions  

What's your favorite version of "Down in the Hole"?

Season 4 for this guy, but season 3 was pretty good.

"Smokey, this be not the foul jungles of the darkest East Orient. This be ninepins. We are bound by laws."

by Joey C. on Mar 2, 2010 1:35 PM PST up reply actions  

Why do I get the feeling no one will find this amusing...

"Smokey, this be not the foul jungles of the darkest East Orient. This be ninepins. We are bound by laws."

by Joey C. on Mar 2, 2010 1:37 PM PST up reply actions  

I find it amusing and contentious

as season two is clearly the best version. Give me Tom Waits any day of the week.

FTR, I DESPISED season three. Aaron Neville can go to hell.

sock puppets have never successfully defended castles. -nm

by Leopold Bloom on Mar 2, 2010 2:00 PM PST up reply actions  

I read it ten times before I figured out the joke

but it is funny. I’ll pick season 1 cause I’m old.

by stormtown on Mar 2, 2010 2:03 PM PST up reply actions  

I got the reference

but only after thinking about it for a couple of minutes. I’ve only seen seasons 1 and 2. Initially I had a strong preference for the season 1 version, but I’ve come to like them both.

by colin on Mar 2, 2010 2:03 PM PST up reply actions  

I heart Steve Earle,

but…Tom Waits.

It’s like you’re eating gorgonzola when it’s clearly brie time, baby!

sock puppets have never successfully defended castles. -nm

by Leopold Bloom on Mar 2, 2010 3:15 PM PST up reply actions  

I don't even know what in the hell y'all are talking about,

but Tom Waits kicks everybody’s ass,

with the possible exceptions of Captain Beefheart and Louis Armstrong,

because Captain Beefheart + Louis Armstrong = Tom Waits.

"The rich people want what the poor peoples got, and the poor people want what the rich peoples got. You can never please anybody in this world"- The Shaggs, "Philosophy Of The World," 1968

by Gaijin_Suketto on Mar 2, 2010 3:45 PM PST up reply actions  

We're talking about theme songs to a television show, G_S.

And neither Cap’n BeefyHearty nor Louie Armstrong never sang it, to my knowledge.

sock puppets have never successfully defended castles. -nm

by Leopold Bloom on Mar 2, 2010 3:54 PM PST up reply actions  

but Armstrong would've been the best, if he had

and Ty Cobb could have sung it even better, if he’d wanted to.

by stormtown on Mar 2, 2010 4:13 PM PST up reply actions  

Just do what I do and watch it over and over and over again.

I’m actually reading David Simon’s Homicide right now, and in a week I’ll be in New Orleans where my second highest priority will be tracking down Simon on the set of his new show.

by LongLiveLangerhans on Mar 2, 2010 7:00 PM PST up reply actions  

It's fun to see how many plotlines and little moments from Homicide and The Wire were based on real incidents

"And Julio Franco is batting right-handed!" -- Wayne Hagin, A's radio play-by-play, mid-80s

by Nick on Mar 2, 2010 7:23 PM PST up reply actions  

I hope I'm not giving away too much for those who haven't seen it,

but my favorite “this-really-happened” is when a certain character escapes a shootout by jumping from a four-story window. In real life, it was a six-story window, but the building they were filming in only went to five and no one would believe four, anyway.

Listen, when he jumps out the window during that shootout, that was something Donnie Andrews actually did. He jumped out of the sixth floor of the Murphy Homes when he was caught in an ambush and out of ammunition. Did he think about it? No, but he did it and he survived and he was able to limp away. It happened. He also jumped off the Poplar Grove rail bridge another time. It’s legend. There are people who will tell you about it in West Baltimore other than Donnie. It’s not just something he’s making up. If you make that jump, you’re dead. If I make that jump, I’m a puddle on the ground.

By the way, I can’t remember if I posted that interview before (the one from Vice magazine) but it is a must read for The Wire fans.

by LongLiveLangerhans on Mar 2, 2010 7:40 PM PST up reply actions  

I was actually thinking of the copy-machine lie detector thing

"And Julio Franco is batting right-handed!" -- Wayne Hagin, A's radio play-by-play, mid-80s

by Nick on Mar 2, 2010 8:14 PM PST up reply actions  

I oughta check out one'a'them television shows one'a'these days.

Movin’ pitchers, how’bout’it?

"The rich people want what the poor peoples got, and the poor people want what the rich peoples got. You can never please anybody in this world"- The Shaggs, "Philosophy Of The World," 1968

by Gaijin_Suketto on Mar 2, 2010 7:58 PM PST up reply actions  

I like Tom Waits.

But when it comes to this particular song, I like Earle’s version better. It’s a close call, though. The version sung by the kids (season four) is not that far behind, either.

by LongLiveLangerhans on Mar 2, 2010 7:02 PM PST up reply actions  

tom waits, obv

A's v Giants "is kind of like the difference between going to see the Ramones and going to see the Bee Gees. A's fans will go see the Ramones."
-BB 07/27/05

by xbhaskarx on Mar 2, 2010 3:35 PM PST up reply actions  

Really?!?

I mean, I’m fine with Tom Waits getting the vote, but no one else dug the hip-hop version of the cut?

"Smokey, this be not the foul jungles of the darkest East Orient. This be ninepins. We are bound by laws."

by Joey C. on Mar 2, 2010 4:41 PM PST up reply actions  

Blind Boys fo me.

Stewart: "What really needs to be clear is it wouldn't have mattered if there was an earthquake or not. We were going to beat the Giants.

by Elvez on Mar 2, 2010 6:51 PM PST up reply actions  

You made the right choice.

If you had something to say about show tunes, then it belongs in mine. But the Wire goes here.

There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, Than are dreamt of in your philosophy.

by iglew on Mar 2, 2010 6:59 PM PST up reply actions  

my original comment was about the band Wire,

not the show ‘The Wire’. But it went in that direction, obviously.

by colin on Mar 3, 2010 8:57 AM PST up reply actions  

... Sorry for hijacking...

"Smokey, this be not the foul jungles of the darkest East Orient. This be ninepins. We are bound by laws."

by Joey C. on Mar 3, 2010 11:49 AM PST up reply actions  

that's messed up.

"The ego, the super-ego, and the Ed" - danmerqury

by Future Ed on Mar 2, 2010 10:00 PM PST up reply actions  

ESPN the Mag (and insider) ridiculously cheap

http://slickdeals.net/

13 bucks for a 4 year subscription.

They call their best player "Kung Fu Panda" and they complain that people aren’t taking them or the game seriously enough? -Nick

by mikev on Mar 2, 2010 11:54 AM PST reply actions  

I signed up for 4 years.

That’s a ridiculous $0.125 per issue. I figure this way I get Insider super cheap and will stop being pissed off that I can’t read half of ESPN.com.

On the other hand, it probably just means more articles about the Red Sox and Yanks. Oh well.

I bleed green and gold!!! (my doctor is worried)

by Vaillant on Mar 2, 2010 1:13 PM PST up reply actions  

thanks mikev!

I was about to pay 30 bucks for two years! I owe you big time. (well, like 50 bucks at least)

What you fail to understand in your joyless myopia is that baseball is the key to life-- the Rosetta Stone, if you will. If you just understood baseball better all your other questions your, your... the, uh... the aliens, the conspiracies they would all, in their way be answered by the baseball gods.

by winchester5 on Mar 2, 2010 5:32 PM PST up reply actions  

No wonder it feels like time is flying by!

Days may be getting shorter.

don't grow up too fast / and don't embrace the past / this life's too good to last

by goldfish on Mar 2, 2010 12:06 PM PST reply actions  

that's kind of crazy huh?

You have to include smiley faces - Poppy
;- ) :- ) :-O : -> : -] : -}

by micdog2001 on Mar 2, 2010 5:18 PM PST up reply actions  

Right?!

My foreman and I were talking about this today. At first it sounded scary, but axis shifts happen for a variety of reasons. Both internal and external.

by lynnzgal on Mar 2, 2010 6:07 PM PST up reply actions  

are any of them evil?

sock puppets have never successfully defended castles. -nm

by Leopold Bloom on Mar 3, 2010 3:29 PM PST up reply actions  

all of them.

If the Earth were truly pure and good, it would sit there like a lump and not move, like a good little planet.

"The rich people want what the poor peoples got, and the poor people want what the rich peoples got. You can never please anybody in this world"- The Shaggs, "Philosophy Of The World," 1968

by Gaijin_Suketto on Mar 3, 2010 4:08 PM PST up reply actions  

"Earth, you are so fucking grounded when you get home," said the Center of the Universe.

Leopold Bloom on why he loves Mr. Peter Gammons, his best buddy:
"Peter Gammons systematically ignored and/or ran down the A’s in the pages of Sports Illustrated and The Sporting News for a good ten year stretch in the late seventies and early to mid-eighties. Trust me, the c**ksucker hates our team."

by DMOAS on Mar 3, 2010 7:25 PM PST up reply actions  

I am (pleasantly) surprised curling got so many votes in the poll

After these last two weeks, I have a newfound love for it. Something about the curlers not fishing for endorsements/sponsorships and being just normal guys and gals is really cool.

"Do I talk to myself? No, I just remind myself of what I'm trying to do. You know, I never answer myself so how can I be talking to myself?" - Rickey

by cuppingmaster on Mar 2, 2010 12:16 PM PST reply actions  

They weren't bad, either

It seems like the women played a methodical game: more blocking and strategy, whereas the men seemed to do runbacks more often. Who knows, though, that’s only my impression.

"Do I talk to myself? No, I just remind myself of what I'm trying to do. You know, I never answer myself so how can I be talking to myself?" - Rickey

by cuppingmaster on Mar 2, 2010 12:34 PM PST up reply actions  

I interpreted the question as "what did you spend the most hours watching"

and since curling matches take awhile, and were uninterrupted by Mary Carillo’s moose-hugging adventures, I figured it had to be what I’d watched most. What I enjoyed most? Nein.

by stormtown on Mar 2, 2010 1:59 PM PST up reply actions  

Curling

It is one of those events where you spend the first five minutes thinking this is rubbish and the next six hours glued to the screen.

by DeJay on Mar 3, 2010 11:46 AM PST via mobile up reply actions  

Agreed

Hot chicks helped make it through those five minutes too.

Leopold Bloom on why he loves Mr. Peter Gammons, his best buddy:
"Peter Gammons systematically ignored and/or ran down the A’s in the pages of Sports Illustrated and The Sporting News for a good ten year stretch in the late seventies and early to mid-eighties. Trust me, the c**ksucker hates our team."

by DMOAS on Mar 3, 2010 7:26 PM PST up reply actions  

Thanks for posting the piece on Roger Ebert

I knew that Ebert had been ill, but I didn’t realize the scope of it and I didn’t know that he has been writing so extensively now. Great article!

Thanks!

I bleed green and gold!!! (my doctor is worried)

by Vaillant on Mar 2, 2010 12:47 PM PST reply actions  

He was on Oprah today.

I got home too late to see it, but he has a computerized voice thingy now.

You can see it on her site.

by lynnzgal on Mar 2, 2010 4:51 PM PST up reply actions  

time to tarp off seats at phoenix municipal stadium?
Intrasquad game to start in 15 min. and only about 25 people in stands, some of them A’s employees.

link

A's v Giants "is kind of like the difference between going to see the Ramones and going to see the Bee Gees. A's fans will go see the Ramones."
-BB 07/27/05

by xbhaskarx on Mar 2, 2010 12:58 PM PST reply actions  

Justin Upton
The Arizona Diamondbacks are closing in on a six-year contract with outfielder Justin Upton, a baseball source confirmed Tuesday and the deal could be announced as soon as Wednesday.

FOXsports.com reported that the deal will be worth in the $50 million range.

Just 22 years old, Upton posted a 4.6 WAR and 7.4 UZR in right field last season.

The Ultimate Opportunist

by Rated-R Superstar on Mar 2, 2010 1:23 PM PST reply actions  

whoa, I thought those Longoria contracts were going to stop

Isn’t the general assumption they lose money for the players?

by stormtown on Mar 2, 2010 2:06 PM PST up reply actions  

They do, but it works out better for the players

in case of injury or sudden general suckiness. Sure, he could wait it out for more money, but there’s always the chance that the huge contract down the road never materializes. As PaulThomas likes to say, it’s a lot like taking out an insurance policy.

Taken down with hearts alive, our hearts alive.

by danmerqury on Mar 2, 2010 2:19 PM PST up reply actions  

I understand that, and if I were a player I'd be tempted

but I thought the Players’ Association was really pushing against these and I’m surprised someone who’s already on a team is going for it.

by stormtown on Mar 2, 2010 2:38 PM PST up reply actions  

Nah. The Players Union loves long term deals.

What’s strange is that Upton is allowing three FA years to be bought out.

Still, he’ll only be 28 at the end of the contract, so he’ll have another monster deal to sign then.

They call their best player "Kung Fu Panda" and they complain that people aren’t taking them or the game seriously enough? -Nick

by mikev on Mar 2, 2010 2:42 PM PST up reply actions  

I haven't seen that

I’ve seen several articles like this one

Such deals are controversial with the players’ union, which is leery of players bargaining away too much future earning power.

by stormtown on Mar 2, 2010 2:45 PM PST up reply actions  

but don't the dbacks know the a's are planning on signing upton for $250m?

A's v Giants "is kind of like the difference between going to see the Ramones and going to see the Bee Gees. A's fans will go see the Ramones."
-BB 07/27/05

by xbhaskarx on Mar 2, 2010 3:47 PM PST up reply actions  

Sigh

Maybe we can sign someone else instead.

The Ultimate Opportunist

by Rated-R Superstar on Mar 2, 2010 3:51 PM PST up reply actions  

gabe gross will probably be available

A's v Giants "is kind of like the difference between going to see the Ramones and going to see the Bee Gees. A's fans will go see the Ramones."
-BB 07/27/05

by xbhaskarx on Mar 2, 2010 8:28 PM PST up reply actions  

Is it just me?

Every time I see a picture of Chris Carter I think of Pedro Serrano in Major league?

by dj corey f on Mar 2, 2010 3:01 PM PST reply actions  

.

There's no crying in baseball!

by gigglingone on Mar 2, 2010 3:24 PM PST up reply actions  

Let's just hope he can hit that curevball

and doesn’t need to sacrifice any chickens to Joebu.

I'll have a sandwich and a draft(sic). - Bill King (RIP)

by BleedGreen on Mar 3, 2010 7:00 AM PST up reply actions  

Mostly hockey

Mostly at work streaming… but got to go outside for the last two games, LOUUUUUU

But I got exposed to a good dose of curling… I wanna try it now

100% Athletics, 100% Baseball. 2009 Athletics, 40% Baseball.

by fruitattack on Mar 2, 2010 3:19 PM PST reply actions  

No, I will not buy insurance from you!

Joe Vu, on the other hand, I can trust.

"The rich people want what the poor peoples got, and the poor people want what the rich peoples got. You can never please anybody in this world"- The Shaggs, "Philosophy Of The World," 1968

by Gaijin_Suketto on Mar 2, 2010 3:49 PM PST reply actions  

reply fail...

"The rich people want what the poor peoples got, and the poor people want what the rich peoples got. You can never please anybody in this world"- The Shaggs, "Philosophy Of The World," 1968

by Gaijin_Suketto on Mar 2, 2010 3:49 PM PST up reply actions  

wait, are you trying to say Jesus cant hit a curveball?

What you fail to understand in your joyless myopia is that baseball is the key to life-- the Rosetta Stone, if you will. If you just understood baseball better all your other questions your, your... the, uh... the aliens, the conspiracies they would all, in their way be answered by the baseball gods.

by winchester5 on Mar 2, 2010 5:36 PM PST up reply actions  

errr...sell allstate insurance?

What you fail to understand in your joyless myopia is that baseball is the key to life-- the Rosetta Stone, if you will. If you just understood baseball better all your other questions your, your... the, uh... the aliens, the conspiracies they would all, in their way be answered by the baseball gods.

by winchester5 on Mar 2, 2010 5:36 PM PST up reply actions  

Do you mean Jobu?

There's no crying in baseball!

by gigglingone on Mar 2, 2010 6:48 PM PST up reply actions  

really? it's Jobu?

Well now I’ve lost all respect for Jairo Garcia Joe Vu.

"The rich people want what the poor peoples got, and the poor people want what the rich peoples got. You can never please anybody in this world"- The Shaggs, "Philosophy Of The World," 1968

by Gaijin_Suketto on Mar 2, 2010 7:43 PM PST up reply actions  

I voted for skiing

but then again, I’m probably the only person on this site— hell, in this state— who made a conscious effort to make sure that I didn’t get the results of biathlon events spoiled to me before I could watch the full replays of them…

Shawn Spencer: "I’m receiving a transmission from your husband. Really more of a voicemail, if I'm being honest. A status update. Perhaps a twitter."
Burton Guster: "I believe it’s called a tweet."
Shawn Spencer: "There’s no way I’m saying that."

by PaulThomas on Mar 2, 2010 4:44 PM PST reply actions  

I wonder if I'm the only one here

who went to a high school that had a biathlon program.

There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, Than are dreamt of in your philosophy.

by iglew on Mar 2, 2010 7:04 PM PST up reply actions  

I can't imagine many schools have one now

it’s hard enough keeping football and basketball teams going at many schools.

by sirbed on Mar 2, 2010 8:44 PM PST up reply actions  

My school had one when I was a freshman, but

that was the final year. Skiing and shooting are both popular in Anchorage. At least they were in the 1970s. Things changed after the Pipeline was built.

There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, Than are dreamt of in your philosophy.

by iglew on Mar 2, 2010 11:12 PM PST up reply actions  

Okay, without researching old

threads myself where there are certainly many references….

  Can somebody give me their two cents on Hotel advice reasonably close to Phoenix Muni Stadium as I may pull the trigger for March 17th & 18th games there….and my OCD kicked in reviewing them all on the internet.

alaska A residing in northern Idaho.

by ak_A on Mar 2, 2010 4:47 PM PST reply actions  

There's a Motel 6 down the street

Not sure if you require 5-star accommodations, but that does the trick.

"Don't look back. Something might be gaining on you." - Satchel Paige

by YonYonson on Mar 2, 2010 5:55 PM PST up reply actions  

Soaker recommends the chain motels on East Apache in Tempe

America’s Best Value Inn, Days Inn, Super 8 (Soaker’s choice!) and a couple others. You’re within walking distance of the ASU restaurant/bar scene for the evenings, and to get to the games you can take the light rail instead of driving and parking.

If I get a chance I may post a review of the Tempe/South Scottsdale brewpubs. The valley’s brewpub scene seems to be dominated by the chains (BJ’s, Rock Bottom, Gordon Biersch and Oggi’s), which are fine but who wants to go to a chain restaurant when you’re traveling? On my list , all within reasonable distance of Phoenix Muni, are: Papago Brewing in South Scottsdale, Four Peaks in Tempe, Dave’s Electric Brewpub in Tempe, and Sleepy Dog in Tempe (not a restaurant but they encourage you to bring your own food and drink their own brew there; sounds intriguing).

by Soaker on Mar 2, 2010 8:37 PM PST up reply actions  

thanks soak, er, soaker

I am hip to all the choices but not so much to the nuances like walk to accessibility to light rail (the phoenix light rail metro transit what-ever website is somewhat obtuse to a non phonecian).

alaska A residing in northern Idaho.

by ak_A on Mar 3, 2010 12:02 AM PST up reply actions  

All day pass for light rail is $3.50

If you were staying at one of the motels I suggested (just beyond the southeast corner of the ASU campus) you would board at Apache and Dorsey. It’s 5 stops/13 minutes over to Priest and Washington (station just down from Phoenix Muni). In between is a station at 3rd and Mill, near the northwest corner of campus. Mill Avenue has lots of places to eat and drink. It’s very walkable to go across campus between there and the motels, or with the all-day pass just hop on the light rail.

by Soaker on Mar 3, 2010 10:44 AM PST up reply actions  

For sure, when I got hipper to light rail map. I was going to go Super 8 in Tempe at ASU

BUT, I got slama-jammed with work thats gonna spill into my planned trip and I had to take a sober reality check and gotta for-go. $%$^$^^

Figure I’ll make it up with a regular season game in Seattle or Oak.

alaska A residing in northern Idaho.

by ak_A on Mar 3, 2010 5:19 PM PST up reply actions  

I'm sorry

I hate it when

$%$^$^^

happens

"Loyal? I'm the most loyal player money can buy." - Don Sutton

by vignette17 on Mar 3, 2010 6:51 PM PST up reply actions  

I'm just curious

am I the only one who didn’t watch any of the Winter Olympics? I have nothing against those type of sports but I just didn’t find myself being interested in any of it.

My girlfriend wasn’t into any of it either so we ended up watching a bunch of movies the past couple of weeks instead of the Olympics.

by sirbed on Mar 2, 2010 4:55 PM PST reply actions  

I only watched about 30 mins of it with my parents the last week

I’m not that interested in it. I did read quite a few yahoo.com articles about it though.

You have to include smiley faces - Poppy
;- ) :- ) :-O : -> : -] : -}

by micdog2001 on Mar 2, 2010 5:20 PM PST up reply actions  

I am a big hockey fan, so I did watch those if they were on.

But other than that, I wasn’t too interested in most of the sports.

What you fail to understand in your joyless myopia is that baseball is the key to life-- the Rosetta Stone, if you will. If you just understood baseball better all your other questions your, your... the, uh... the aliens, the conspiracies they would all, in their way be answered by the baseball gods.

by winchester5 on Mar 2, 2010 5:37 PM PST up reply actions  

I only saw like 10 minutes of Speed skating

changing channels while a program i was watching was in commercials.

by jahs34 on Mar 2, 2010 6:50 PM PST up reply actions  

probably total of 15 mins. ho hum

alaska A residing in northern Idaho.

by ak_A on Mar 2, 2010 6:55 PM PST up reply actions  

I also watched no Olympics.

This time of year I don’t watch much of anything, but I wouldn’t be interested in Olympics regardless.

There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, Than are dreamt of in your philosophy.

by iglew on Mar 2, 2010 7:05 PM PST up reply actions  

I do like some of the summer Olympics

but I’d rather watch a baseball or football game anytime.

by sirbed on Mar 2, 2010 7:07 PM PST up reply actions  

This explains the (otherwise inexplicable) lack of Olympians in your post about Sweden

Fortunately, I’ve now remedied that omission…

Shawn Spencer: "I’m receiving a transmission from your husband. Really more of a voicemail, if I'm being honest. A status update. Perhaps a twitter."
Burton Guster: "I believe it’s called a tweet."
Shawn Spencer: "There’s no way I’m saying that."

by PaulThomas on Mar 2, 2010 10:55 PM PST up reply actions  

Thanks for the contribution.

My part was already way too long. For me, writing a link dump is an exercise in deciding what to cut, not what to add.

There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, Than are dreamt of in your philosophy.

by iglew on Mar 2, 2010 11:14 PM PST up reply actions  

I watched about 30 minutes of the Olympics while I was over at a friend's house.

This probably says more about NBC’s coverage than it does about the winter Olympics but there seemed to be a large focus on spills and crashes. That doesn’t really interest me and I’d rather not watch at all. If I had cable, I would probably have put hockey and curling on as background noise.

by LongLiveLangerhans on Mar 2, 2010 7:14 PM PST up reply actions  

I don't know anyone with as big a presence in the Olympic posts

that watched no Olympics.

sock puppets have never successfully defended castles. -nm

by Leopold Bloom on Mar 3, 2010 3:32 PM PST up reply actions  

Rated-R Superstar?

Taken down with hearts alive, our hearts alive.

by danmerqury on Mar 3, 2010 4:53 PM PST up reply actions  

meh.

sock puppets have never successfully defended castles. -nm

by Leopold Bloom on Mar 3, 2010 5:51 PM PST up reply actions  

You.

Leopold Bloom on why he loves Mr. Peter Gammons, his best buddy:
"Peter Gammons systematically ignored and/or ran down the A’s in the pages of Sports Illustrated and The Sporting News for a good ten year stretch in the late seventies and early to mid-eighties. Trust me, the c**ksucker hates our team."

by DMOAS on Mar 3, 2010 7:26 PM PST up reply actions  

Hi

Did somebody call? I have my eyes on the busy college basketball slate of games tonight. I really need fifth-ranked Kansas State to lose by nine points or less. Twelve points is the deficit they face right now at second-ranked Kansas.

The Ultimate Opportunist

by Rated-R Superstar on Mar 3, 2010 6:58 PM PST up reply actions  

you know, I think Don and me were right eight months ago.

No fucking way you’re a 17 year-old in Fresno. You’re a 60 year-old bookie. In Vegas.

sock puppets have never successfully defended castles. -nm

by Leopold Bloom on Mar 3, 2010 11:17 PM PST up reply actions  

Quiet

You’ll blow my cover!

Also, I’m now 18 and I live in Modesto.

The Ultimate Opportunist

by Rated-R Superstar on Mar 4, 2010 4:23 PM PST up reply actions  

I didn't watch any of it, either.

The nationalism thing pisses me off. I wish the Olympics were a flagless, stateless competition between athletes.

If that takes the big money out of it, and people aren’t interested because their “Hurray for my country” factor is taken away, then so be it.

"The rich people want what the poor peoples got, and the poor people want what the rich peoples got. You can never please anybody in this world"- The Shaggs, "Philosophy Of The World," 1968

by Gaijin_Suketto on Mar 3, 2010 4:11 PM PST up reply actions  

I endorse this statement 100%

Leopold Bloom on why he loves Mr. Peter Gammons, his best buddy:
"Peter Gammons systematically ignored and/or ran down the A’s in the pages of Sports Illustrated and The Sporting News for a good ten year stretch in the late seventies and early to mid-eighties. Trust me, the c**ksucker hates our team."

by DMOAS on Mar 3, 2010 7:27 PM PST up reply actions  

That makes me dislike the coverage

but not necessarily the Games themselves. In some sports nationality makes a difference — like the US Nordic Combined skiiers wanting to medal for the first time in US history — but in a lot of cases I think its the fans with the hangups, not the athletes. The US and Canadian hockey players are teammates in the NHL; Lindsey Vonn’s best friend on the alpine tour is evidently Maria Riesch of Germany.

"And Julio Franco is batting right-handed!" -- Wayne Hagin, A's radio play-by-play, mid-80s

by Nick on Mar 3, 2010 7:50 PM PST up reply actions  

Why does it piss you off?

OK, so it’s an arbitrary rooting interest. Is rooting for the A’s or Niners or whoever somehow NOT an arbitrary rooting interest? All rooting interests are basically arbitrary.

And I think you’d find, if you paid close attention to what actually goes on at the Olympics, that almost everyone involved— fans, locals, whatever— is coming at it with a “I hope everyone does great and our people just do a little bit more great” attitude. Compare this to domestic sports leagues where fans openly hope that players on rival teams get injured.

Shawn Spencer: "I’m receiving a transmission from your husband. Really more of a voicemail, if I'm being honest. A status update. Perhaps a twitter."
Burton Guster: "I believe it’s called a tweet."
Shawn Spencer: "There’s no way I’m saying that."

by PaulThomas on Mar 3, 2010 11:43 PM PST up reply actions  

Maybe the people involved in the games are more positive and rooting for their competitors, too

but many fans and national olympic committees fetishize medals and take their country’s medal count very seriously.

Would it diminish your enjoyment of the games if athletes’ nationality was downplayed, and there were no flags or national medal counts?

"The rich people want what the poor peoples got, and the poor people want what the rich peoples got. You can never please anybody in this world"- The Shaggs, "Philosophy Of The World," 1968

by Gaijin_Suketto on Mar 4, 2010 4:04 AM PST up reply actions  

The flag thing when they win bothers me becasue it's become part of the routine now.

Flag salespeople have to love it, though.

sock puppets have never successfully defended castles. -nm

by Leopold Bloom on Mar 4, 2010 11:18 AM PST up reply actions  

What... are you looking to diversify?

"The rich people want what the poor peoples got, and the poor people want what the rich peoples got. You can never please anybody in this world"- The Shaggs, "Philosophy Of The World," 1968

by Gaijin_Suketto on Mar 4, 2010 5:18 PM PST up reply actions  

Who are these people out there who "fetishize" medal counts?

I’ve never met one. And I’m like the most intense Olympics fan there is. Maybe the NOCs do, since I imagine it impacts their funding, but I (yet again) fail to see what’s wrong with that.

I like knowing who the American athletes are, but I wouldn’t be sorry to see medal counts go for basically instrumental reasons (they’re great for spoiling results, especially in the Winter Games where there are fewer events).

Shawn Spencer: "I’m receiving a transmission from your husband. Really more of a voicemail, if I'm being honest. A status update. Perhaps a twitter."
Burton Guster: "I believe it’s called a tweet."
Shawn Spencer: "There’s no way I’m saying that."

by PaulThomas on Mar 4, 2010 2:06 PM PST up reply actions  

Unlike you, I wasn't avoiding Olympic spoilers

National medal counts were all over the place, including Yahoo’s front page, and the front pages of most sport sections online, and USA Today.

I think you’re right that the most hardcore of olympic fans are the least nationalistic and in it for the pure athletics rather than anything the athletes supposedly represent. It’s just that the olympics give nonhardcore fans the excuse to have an orgy of patriotism and nationalism that in many ways, overshadows the spirit of what the games were meant to be in the first place.

"The rich people want what the poor peoples got, and the poor people want what the rich peoples got. You can never please anybody in this world"- The Shaggs, "Philosophy Of The World," 1968

by Gaijin_Suketto on Mar 4, 2010 5:15 PM PST up reply actions  

The Olympics aren't the only thing that cause people

to have mega-orgies of patriotism. Seems like lots of holidays, product purchases, and lifestyle choices are made because of a false/inflated sense of patriotism.

I don’t really see anything wrong with the medal counts. I know here people look down upon that in many areas here, but it’s a big deal for the Russians and Japanese, for sure. The point is to send your best athletes, and to a larger point, develop athletes in your country. This fosters both, indirectly.

"Do I talk to myself? No, I just remind myself of what I'm trying to do. You know, I never answer myself so how can I be talking to myself?" - Rickey

by cuppingmaster on Mar 4, 2010 10:07 PM PST up reply actions  

don't forget war.

sock puppets have never successfully defended castles. -nm

by Leopold Bloom on Mar 4, 2010 10:09 PM PST up reply actions  

For the third and, at least for the moment, last time

I challenge you to present me with a shred of hard evidence of these “orgies” of “patriotism and nationalism” which were apparently spontaneously (but secretly!) breaking out the world over.

Shawn Spencer: "I’m receiving a transmission from your husband. Really more of a voicemail, if I'm being honest. A status update. Perhaps a twitter."
Burton Guster: "I believe it’s called a tweet."
Shawn Spencer: "There’s no way I’m saying that."

by PaulThomas on Mar 4, 2010 10:36 PM PST up reply actions  

If you believed NBC's coverage

From what I saw they showed all sorts of “ooh big deal” BS about several countries. The idea of one country losing in a particular event (was it Norway?) was unthinkable and then to lose to country X (was it Sweden?) was in the words of the broadcasters like the Red Sox & Yankees. It was and does happen. A lot? Meh, probably more than you think and less than G_S thinks? And NBC really couldn’t contain themselves over medal count discussions. Now I didn’t watch too much of it, but what little I did see it was pretty overwhelmingly there and a turn off. As someone who clearly watched a lot more of it, maybe I was just coming in at the wrong time, otherwise I’m really not sure what feed you were watching or else you were smartly skimming through it all.

Leopold Bloom on why he loves Mr. Peter Gammons, his best buddy:
"Peter Gammons systematically ignored and/or ran down the A’s in the pages of Sports Illustrated and The Sporting News for a good ten year stretch in the late seventies and early to mid-eighties. Trust me, the c**ksucker hates our team."

by DMOAS on Mar 4, 2010 11:03 PM PST up reply actions  

Sounds to me like selective reporting

and fanning the flames by the media.

Kind of like partisanship in U.S. politics.

There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, Than are dreamt of in your philosophy.

by iglew on Mar 5, 2010 10:38 AM PST up reply actions  

Oh my God, rivalries? In sport?

That cannot possibly be! Every team must oppose every single other team with equal (but not excessive) vigor!

The medal count was discussed once daily, at roughly 10:30 PM. The Norway-Sweden thing was discussed periodically when Al Trautwig and Chad Salmela ran out of other interesting things to say about a long cross-country race, which to be honest was fairly often. Then again, it’s hard to come up with interesting commentary at every stage of an 18-mile race.

Shawn Spencer: "I’m receiving a transmission from your husband. Really more of a voicemail, if I'm being honest. A status update. Perhaps a twitter."
Burton Guster: "I believe it’s called a tweet."
Shawn Spencer: "There’s no way I’m saying that."

by PaulThomas on Mar 5, 2010 2:45 PM PST up reply actions  

They could have talked about -sen vs -son.

Or Grieg vs Alfven. Or the Kalmar Union.

There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, Than are dreamt of in your philosophy.

by iglew on Mar 5, 2010 2:57 PM PST up reply actions  

Seriously with the snark?

You “challenged” to “present” “hard evidence” and blah blah blah. Look, NBC played up the nationality and the medal counts and the BS, etc. etc. (more than you claim, but whatever). Did their audience care? Who the hell knows and that’s an entirely different discussion, but some people who follow the Olympics do care about the nationalistic orgy of medals and the ilk of cheering their country above others. Not ALL, probably not most, some, maybe only a few do. Who the hell really cares. But when it does happen and when it’s pushed by NBC like a junkie (forgive the hyperbole) it’s annoying at best. The Olympics themselves aren’t about that, that I agree with, but they get sold by outside sources like NBC using these methods and when they do (however more or less often as any of us think), it’s just generally annoying and reeks of BS.

Leopold Bloom on why he loves Mr. Peter Gammons, his best buddy:
"Peter Gammons systematically ignored and/or ran down the A’s in the pages of Sports Illustrated and The Sporting News for a good ten year stretch in the late seventies and early to mid-eighties. Trust me, the c**ksucker hates our team."

by DMOAS on Mar 5, 2010 11:22 PM PST up reply actions  

What's BS is your claims about the coverage

I have many, many critiques of NBC’s Olympics coverage (for christ’s sake, I wrote a four-page letter to them complaining about it at one point), but over-pushing of the medal count is not one of them.

You yourself said two posts ago that you “didn’t watch too much of it.” This is like someone saying Jack Cust sucks based on watching one game where he struck out three times. I mean, it’s just factually false that NBC heavily pushed the medal count as a storyline.

Shawn Spencer: "I’m receiving a transmission from your husband. Really more of a voicemail, if I'm being honest. A status update. Perhaps a twitter."
Burton Guster: "I believe it’s called a tweet."
Shawn Spencer: "There’s no way I’m saying that."

by PaulThomas on Mar 6, 2010 9:15 AM PST up reply actions  

I watched on average about an hour or so a day of NBC's coverage

and quite a bit of CNBC’s. Not a lot (by my definition) and by no means the Jack Cust sucks level of misinterpretation. And I did admit to a level of hyperbole on that front. Yahoo! went orgasmic on it, but NBC made it fairly known when I did tune in to them (maybe it was just individual commentators with nothing better to say) but it did come up often enough for me to notice). If anything, the analogy is watching Cust strike out nearly every AB I see and thinking he strikes out often, nothing more, nothing less. I made no misinterpretation of NBC’s coverage here. As a point of fact, I made very little interpretation of it at all. Sources like NBC (and even worst, Yahoo!) did report on it. And when they did, as I’ve continually said, it was annoying and BS.

Leopold Bloom on why he loves Mr. Peter Gammons, his best buddy:
"Peter Gammons systematically ignored and/or ran down the A’s in the pages of Sports Illustrated and The Sporting News for a good ten year stretch in the late seventies and early to mid-eighties. Trust me, the c**ksucker hates our team."

by DMOAS on Mar 6, 2010 10:35 AM PST up reply actions  

Yahoo wasn't covering the Games, it was reporting on them

and, I might add, doing so in such a way as to (I think) intentionally spoil results so that people would spend less time watching NBC’s ads and more time, for instance, clicking on Yahoo’s (I’m sorry, I refuse to put a fucking exclamation point randomly into the middle of a sentence) ads.

NBC did not focus very much attention on medal counts because it was flat-out impossible to do so without giving away upcoming results to any viewer who paid attention to anything. As I said, almost all of it was at either the very end of the day or after everything except the live-on-the-East-Coast stuff had been wrapped up. If you kept tuning in at 10:30 every night, then yeah, you might have seen a lot of it, because you were taking a severely biased sampling.

It may be that had it been logistically possible for them to spend more time banging the medal count drum, that they would have. I don’t know. God knows they found enough other stupid ways to waste time showing things other than sporting events. Either way, however, logistical reality stepped in the way.

Shawn Spencer: "I’m receiving a transmission from your husband. Really more of a voicemail, if I'm being honest. A status update. Perhaps a twitter."
Burton Guster: "I believe it’s called a tweet."
Shawn Spencer: "There’s no way I’m saying that."

by PaulThomas on Mar 7, 2010 12:10 AM PST up reply actions  

Lee and Slusser were all over the intrasquad game today.

From their Twitter feeds.

susanslusser – Top 3 vs. Ross: Davis walk, steal (with ease), Pennington walk. Visit to mound byStassi. Chavez groundout moves runners up. #Athletics
about 5 hours ago via web
JaneMLB – After reaching first on a walk issued by Tyson Ross, Rajai jumps out to eary lead and steals second. Rickey would be proud. #Athletics

Lee also has some notes on her blog

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by micdog2001 on Mar 2, 2010 5:39 PM PST reply actions  

too bad there aren't any video clips out there

I saw clips from the Giants and Mets intrasquad games but no A’s (so far).

You have to include smiley faces - Poppy
;- ) :- ) :-O : -> : -] : -}

by micdog2001 on Mar 2, 2010 6:28 PM PST up reply actions  

I'm really starting to get the old baseball fever

one of the symptoms is that I’ve convinced myself all the A’s pitchers are going to stay healthy and the A’s are going to the playoffs.

by sirbed on Mar 2, 2010 7:09 PM PST up reply actions  

Thanks for the link

the bullpen should be a strength. Hopefully the boys can win a lot of 4-3 type games.

by sirbed on Mar 2, 2010 8:02 PM PST up reply actions  

cool

that had a lot of pictures from the intersquad game.

You have to include smiley faces - Poppy
;- ) :- ) :-O : -> : -] : -}

by micdog2001 on Mar 3, 2010 1:38 AM PST up reply actions  

I am so excited to see Rajai Davis play this year.

I sincerely hope his two walks today are a harbinger of a commitment to plate discipline and getting on base by any means possible and/or necessary.

I also sincerely hope that whoever hits behind him in the order doesn’t get too distracted by that green & gold comet orbiting counterclockwise around the pitcher.

"The rich people want what the poor peoples got, and the poor people want what the rich peoples got. You can never please anybody in this world"- The Shaggs, "Philosophy Of The World," 1968

by Gaijin_Suketto on Mar 2, 2010 7:53 PM PST up reply actions  

A year ago G_S could you have imagined you'd ever write

I’m so excited to see Rajai Davis play?

He was so much fun to watch last year and I sure hope he keeps it going. Next to Suzuki I think he’s my favorite player on the team.

by sirbed on Mar 2, 2010 8:06 PM PST up reply actions  

No, not at all.

I’m really high on him this year because I read an interview with him in the offseason (I don’t remember where, sorry) and I just got the impression that he was going to be super locked-in and crazy confident this upcoming season.

I want to see him walk a lot more. Two today are a nice start.

"The rich people want what the poor peoples got, and the poor people want what the rich peoples got. You can never please anybody in this world"- The Shaggs, "Philosophy Of The World," 1968

by Gaijin_Suketto on Mar 2, 2010 11:09 PM PST up reply actions  

Hey, iPhone-ers

MLB.com AtBat 2010 is up in the App Store

Another sign the baseball season draws near!!

"Do I talk to myself? No, I just remind myself of what I'm trying to do. You know, I never answer myself so how can I be talking to myself?" - Rickey

by cuppingmaster on Mar 2, 2010 11:48 PM PST reply actions  

From Slusser (via twitter)
Hey, is that Bobby Crosby playing SS for the #Athletics? No, it’s Adam Rosales, but it’s tough to tell the difference: http://tiny.cc/nQl3z

Taken down with hearts alive, our hearts alive.

by danmerqury on Mar 3, 2010 10:10 AM PST reply actions   1 recs

Burn, SuSlu!

"Smokey, this be not the foul jungles of the darkest East Orient. This be ninepins. We are bound by laws."

by Joey C. on Mar 3, 2010 11:51 AM PST up reply actions  

crap
when I saw him swing the bat, it’s exactly alike

There's no crying in baseball!

by gigglingone on Mar 3, 2010 12:08 PM PST up reply actions  

Bye Bye Buan(y)

http://twitter.com/susanslusser

Some guy named Chris Townsend is taking over extra-innings. Guess Robert is moving behind the scenes. I don’t know anything about Townsend, but this bums me out.

Say what you want about Buan and his baseball knowledge, but he was fun and was always about good times…

Ellis for President

by tosk on Mar 3, 2010 10:21 AM PST reply actions  

Aww, I love Buany.

I haven’t listened to Extra Innings in years, but earlier in the decade I listened every night. Good times.

There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, Than are dreamt of in your philosophy.

by iglew on Mar 3, 2010 10:29 AM PST up reply actions  

more info from Jane Lee's blog
The A’s this morning announced that nationally-syndicated broadcaster Chris Townsend will host the A’s radio postgame show on XTRA Sports 860 this season. “A’s Talk with Chris Townsend” will make its debut tomorrow immediately following the team’s opener. Ken Korach, Ray Fosse and Vince Controneo will handle tomorrow’s game broadcast, with the pre-game show starting at 11:30am PST. Meanwhile, Robert Buan will continue to contribute to the club’s postgame show by providing on-site interviews.

link

You have to include smiley faces - Poppy
;- ) :- ) :-O : -> : -] : -}

by micdog2001 on Mar 3, 2010 10:58 AM PST up reply actions  

Audio indicates kid directed planes at NY airport

Yahoo article Link

All he was doing was repeating what his Dad, the real air traffic controller, said and then the Dad was giving detail instructions. And it was only for a few planes. Sure, I don’t want controllers distracted but I think the company is overreacting.

You have to include smiley faces - Poppy
;- ) :- ) :-O : -> : -] : -}

by micdog2001 on Mar 3, 2010 11:04 AM PST reply actions  

I'm at odds

On one hand, there are very few professions where I kid doing dad’s job isn’t sort of “cute” in a way. But unfortunately kids can easily distract anyone else in the room with them and all it would take is for one of those ATCs to lose focus and Houston, we have a problem. Considering how busy NY is in general makes things significantly worse. I don’t think he should be fired if this is his only offense on the job, but a suspension seems fair as long as it doesn’t impeded or otherwise hamper his internal job prospects. It’s over and done with, let him learn from the suspension and move on.

Leopold Bloom on why he loves Mr. Peter Gammons, his best buddy:
"Peter Gammons systematically ignored and/or ran down the A’s in the pages of Sports Illustrated and The Sporting News for a good ten year stretch in the late seventies and early to mid-eighties. Trust me, the c**ksucker hates our team."

by DMOAS on Mar 3, 2010 7:38 PM PST up reply actions  

Uh oh...

Rosales’ look is all-too familiar

…but from a distance, especially, he’s got the same look: the height, the frame, the high socks, the No. 7 jersey. Rosales has darker hair and different facial features, but otherwise … it’s eerie.

“Oh my gosh, it’s unbelievable,” said second baseman Mark Ellis, who played alongside Crosby for his entire time with Oakland and counts Crosby among his best friend. “The first day I saw Adam, when I saw him swing the bat, it’s exactly alike, and the way he walks, everything. Then I saw him in uniform, and with the number and the socks up … it’s the same.”

"Don't look back. Something might be gaining on you." - Satchel Paige

by YonYonson on Mar 3, 2010 11:10 AM PST reply actions  

Can we DFA him now?

Leopold Bloom on why he loves Mr. Peter Gammons, his best buddy:
"Peter Gammons systematically ignored and/or ran down the A’s in the pages of Sports Illustrated and The Sporting News for a good ten year stretch in the late seventies and early to mid-eighties. Trust me, the c**ksucker hates our team."

by DMOAS on Mar 3, 2010 7:38 PM PST up reply actions  

I wonder if Rosales' dad reads AN

"Don't look back. Something might be gaining on you." - Satchel Paige

by YonYonson on Mar 3, 2010 8:24 PM PST up reply actions  

I love that the MLB site

has a countdown clock to the first ST game. I happened to click in when it said 23 Hours 59 Minutes.

Less than a day, kids!

by lynnzgal on Mar 3, 2010 12:12 PM PST reply actions  

yay!

sock puppets have never successfully defended castles. -nm

by Leopold Bloom on Mar 3, 2010 5:52 PM PST up reply actions  

Random link

Who wants to kayak the LA river??

If Pennington manages 17 HRs, I’ll vow to consume an article of clothing to achieve a humorous effect --Joey C.

by cityplANner on Mar 3, 2010 2:50 PM PST reply actions  

interesting

"The A's get some action but they do not score..." -Glen Kuiper

"Anyone who calls themselves the Angels Angels should have to start over and ride the short bus." -timmeh from McCovey Chronicles

by Cheezombie on Mar 3, 2010 3:45 PM PST up reply actions  

So.....

since I am lazy…. will the first A’s game be on mlb audio or some other feed at all?

alaska A residing in northern Idaho.

by ak_A on Mar 3, 2010 7:18 PM PST reply actions  

Yes

It will be on KTRB.

The Ultimate Opportunist

by Rated-R Superstar on Mar 3, 2010 7:38 PM PST up reply actions  

yay.

i suppose I need to “spring” for the mlb audio pretty soon and contemplate the Extra Innings package on the cable.

alaska A residing in northern Idaho.

by ak_A on Mar 3, 2010 7:45 PM PST up reply actions  

I just read Will leitch's piece on Ebert

(somehow I missed it the first three days)

What a touching homage. I’ve done stupid, stupid things like Leitch talks about and still painfully regrets. Anxiety of Influence.

sock puppets have never successfully defended castles. -nm

by Leopold Bloom on Mar 6, 2010 10:27 AM PST reply actions  

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