Could Rosales Win The Starting Shortstop Job?
I had a chance to see Adam Rosales at Spring Training this year. He played in a couple of the games I attended in person, and I have to admit, I didn't really think much of him one way or another...until I saw him play.
Despite the fact that he looks exactly like Bobby Crosby (right down to the number 7 and the Crosby-patented cleat-sweep of the batter's box after every pitch), Rosales seems like he'd be an easy player to root for. Nothing against Cliff Pennington, who did a fine job at shortstop in his half-season last year, but there is something about Rosales that makes you want him to succeed.
AN's eddiemos coined the phrase "Adorable Hustle", and it actually applies perfectly to this A's infielder. Everything he does, he seems to do with an extra flourish; not complicating routine plays (see: Eric Byrnes' routes to fly balls in the outfield), but rather just because he seems so excited to be playing. He hustles down the line with more fervor than the first-time rookies at camp, he actually has range at shortstop and an unexpectedly good throwing arm, and if you want intangibles, here you go: He plays like he wants to be out there helping the team. This has been a knock on players in the past.
But since this is AN, we don't want intangibles or my worthless two days of observations. What I want to know is if Adam Rosales can make a case to challenge Cliff Pennington for the shortstop position.
At the start of Spring Training, I would have gone with a firm "no". That job is Cliff Pennington's, all the way. However, the A's are certainly showcasing Rosales at Spring Training; every game is an audition for him to win a spot on the 25-man. But can he be more than the utility infielder/backup shortstop? Is there even the slightest chance he could take a starting role?
Last season's numbers aren't even close. Rosales and Pennington both played roughly half of a season and were completely different players. Pennington hit .267 with a.341 OBP, 378 SLG, and .719 OPS. Rosales--to put it bluntly--was awful in 2009; in 230 AB's, he hit .213, with.303 OBP, .317 SLG, and .620 OPS.
But it's half of a season; not much data to work with. Rosales' minor league numbers look much better; he hit .289 in 1900 career minor league AB's, and in his two seasons in Triple-A, he hit .299, .353 OBP, .490 SLG. Compare that to Cliff Pennington's own two seasons in Triple-A: .277 BA, .379 OBP, .374 SLG (he hit .263 over his 1900 minor league AB's).
Of course Spring Training numbers aren't considered real data, but players have won starting jobs during the month of March, and if you're looking for a player who is doing everything right; consider Rosales' 20 Spring Training at-bats with his nine hits and three walks. There is no denying that he plays hard every day, and uses every at-bat.
Why did the A's acquire Rosales? Are they 100% sold on Cliff Pennington for 2010? Why is an extremely fragile player like Eric Chavez taking throws at a new position (shortstop) instead of taking his AB's at first, third and DH? Have the A's seen something they liked in Adam Rosales these past few weeks? Is there anything he can do to get a real shot as a starter?
What do you think?
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As a very big Pennington basher
I’m tempted to say that Pennington will be bad enough that anyone has a shot at beating him. Unfortunately, I don’t think that’s quite the case. Pennington is almost universally liked more by projection systems, Rosales is a fine guy in the system and I’ll be rooting for him but I don’t see it.
The A’s best option in my view is to stick with Pennington until he proves he can’t hit (likely by midseason) and hope to trade for a solid SS midseason
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Rosales vs Cliff
If you don’t think Rosalles is making a strong case for himself then boy are you wrong. If he keeps it up at ST, he’ll be hitting about .500. I say keep him at SS until the hot streak dies then bring Cliff back up. Pennington may not have as much upside (since overall minor league number appear stringer for Rosales), but Cliff may be a more consistent hitter in the long run at about a .260 – .270 BA over time and about 5 to 7 dingers a year.
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by thejd44 on Mar 19, 2010 10:52 AM PDT up reply actions
First off
Are they 100% sold on Cliff Pennington for 2010?
I think the pursuit of Marco Scutaro gives us the answer for that one.
Moving on, I think Pennington should be the starting SS on Opening Day and he probably will be. It’d be nice to find out what the team has in Cliff before anointing someone else as the starter. At that point if he’s not performing you can give Rosales a shot to see what you have in him but to dismiss Cliff after a pretty good half season doesn’t seem right to me, ethically nor intelligently.
"Their batters are patient to the point that it's annoying." -Ryan Franklin
How about this radical thinking?
I thought we “found out what the team has in Cliff before anointing someone else the starter” last year after we traded Cabrera? Be that as it may, why don’t we just start Pennington and if he is slumping (sugar coated for sucks) then we put in Rosales. Seems simple enough to me. What are the other options?
"to dismiss Cliff after a pretty good half season doesn’t seem right to me"
I wonder if the same argument will be made for Travis Buck for his partially great 2007. And Buck looks to be about a 100 times more talented than Pennington.
So, I am in the camp that says Rosales should get just as thorough a look at SS as anyone, including Pennington. Why should Pennington get the starting job by default? If Rosales shows he has just as much to offer then it’s going to go to the guy who “wants it that bad!”.
Besides, I’d love to have another Latino in the starting lineup….since Chavez still isn’t Mexican enough…..!
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He's not though is he (100 times more talented).
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I’d love to have more Muslim Indians from tropical islands in the south pacific in the starting lineup.
Or Brits.
Everyone needs more Brits.
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That wouldn't work though OldhamA
Because then there would have to be a tea break every hour!
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Has there ever been a british baseball player
I mean, like one with an accent not a guy who is English but his ancestors moved here a long time ago.
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Quite a few Englishmen at least...
Keith Lampard, Lance Painter, Les Rohr, and Phil Stockman are the only four born in the 20th century.
Someone else can check for Scots and Welshmen if they’d like.
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by Gaijin_Suketto on Mar 19, 2010 11:50 AM PDT up reply actions
Soon he will be replaced by Cardenas
who is, if I recall correctly, instead “not Cuban enough.”
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How soon do you figure?
I’m really curious about Cardenas. So many times over the decades, I’ve read, “Minor League Player X doesn’t have the glove/arm/speed/instincts for his current position so he’ll have to move elsewhere to reach the majors.” Then the player turns out to be quite good at the position.
Even before the A’s acquired Cardenas the book on him was that he can hit but he doesn’t field well enough to stick at shortstop. Is there any reason we should believe this? I have yet to see him play so I don’t know why he has this reputation. Is there something about him that leads the scouts to conclude there’s no room for improvement?
After looking at his stats from 2009, I think I’m more concerned about his bat. Let’s say his bat rebounds and his glovework is found to be somewhere between Tony Phillips and Rob Picciolo. Do you think the A’s will give him a shot in Oakland this year if Pennington falters? Will he have the bat to slide over to third should Grant Green press him in 2011?
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I think SS is out for Cardenas
but that he will handle 2B and 3B just fine (nothing special, but perfectly ok), and that his bat will be very good (e.g., .290/.360/.450).
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2nd place = back up player
Looking at it I would say both will be on the team once camp breaks. Lets not forget that Pennington has enough skills at other positions that he can play 3b and 2b. The person that wins the ss job will be the better defensive player and the loser will back up the infield.
Not so sure
There seems to be a huge numbers probem. They have 5 bench spots (keep 11 pitchers)and with Chavez trying to play SS, I think the plan if Coco is healthy would be to keep Fox, Gross, Chavez Patterson and Powell. The first 4 do not have options. At some point Fox or Patterson are going to go (absent an injury) and a 12th pitcher will be necessary.
With both Pennigton and Rosales with options I am not seeing how they keep both early on. I believe Rob Neyer wrote that ideally the A’s would like to platoon them.
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With Oakland's infield, the "backup" will start just as often...just at different spots.
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Counting injuries
A back up will most likely get over 400 at bats so more as baseball’s 6th man.
From what I've heard from scouting reports...
it seems like Rosales does not necessarily have the skills to be an everyday shortstop at the major league level. Seems like a great utility guy that can spend stretches at 3B, SS and 2B without embarrassing himself. Pennington, from the scouting reports I’ve heard, is more of a natural shortstop and since short is kind of a defense-first position, I’d still bet on Pennington being the Opening Day starter at short.
I would hope that Rosales gets a spot on the 25-man roster though, because Pennington does not seem to be strong enough to play a 162-schedule and it would be nice to have a guy step in and be able to provide some pop and decent D.
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If the A's are looking for a way to split time at SS
they could platoon them for a while and see how that works out.
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Definitely.
Cliff, throughout his career and especially in the majors, has been a much better hitter as a lefty against right-handed pitching than he has as a righty. Since most pitchers are right-handed, a loose platoon with Rosales would still give Pennington the majority of the playing time while keeping the (theoritically) better defender out there most of the time, while getting another right-handed bat with pop in there occasionally against a lefty and giving Cliff some rest time.
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I kinda like this idea.
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by Gaijin_Suketto on Mar 19, 2010 9:59 AM PDT up reply actions
Me too
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by baseballgirl on Mar 19, 2010 10:19 AM PDT up reply actions
I'm in this camp as well.
Let’s face it, barring major transition issues, Grant Green is the SS of the future, not Pennington. If Cliff can be serviceable for 350-400 ABs, play tough defense and steal some bases then he should have a home as the long term utility guy. Rosales is kind of auditioning for the same long term job and I see him getting a similar number of ABs to Pennington this season just not all at SS. Guys like Rosales are fun to have around. Like Scutaro, Rosales has that little bit of pop mixed with joyful exuberance that can really act as a catalyst for a team. I think Rosales is in and the bubble guys are Fox and Patterson once Coco is ready to go.
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This is a great idea
Too bad Eric Chavez and Jake Fox are trying to put a wrench in it. To keep both Pennington and Rosales on the roster a couple others will have to go. Right now its looking like those people would be Patterson and Fox… but that seems like a terrible waste.
Does Pennington have a chance to challenge Rosales for the starting SS job ?
Somehow most of the A’s community has the idea that Rosales was brought in as a utility infileder. A mildly better option than Miles. Someone who barely made the team in Cincinnati, sporting a 620 OPS.
But in all reality we have a guy with above average defense at SS (or at least that’s what his minor league and small sample size MLB stats suggest) and an OPS ranging between 800 and 1000 in the minors the last few seasons. His 620 last year with the Reds was tilted by a very low BABIP.
I don’t understand why you would want to think Pennington (sub 700 OPS in AAA, average defense) is the way forward, other than some conservative incumbent anchoring.
This guy might simply be very very good. The fact that he never featured as an A or B level prospect doesn’t mean he shouldn’t be able to be an abover average major leaguer.
Same with the likes of Sogard, Outman, Sweeney, Donaldson, Bailey, Breslow. I think the A’s front office does an excellent job of scouting guys that have a good chance of being above average at their position.
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Rosales turns 27 in May and has never shown the ability to hit at the major league level
“Very very good” is a huge stretch.
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by thejd44 on Mar 19, 2010 10:55 AM PDT up reply actions
True....however
Mike Wuertz just had a real “wow” season at age 30-31 and so you can’t “always” use age as a determining factor.
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Relievers are a completely different animal.
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Than raccoons?
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Mike Wuertz has been a good reliever since 2005
That’s not even close to a good comparison. Yes, Wuertz may have had his best season last year, but he’s been good to great his whole career. (And you can argue his 2006 season was better than his 2009 season)
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by thejd44 on Mar 19, 2010 11:05 AM PDT up reply actions
Also, it's not that Rosales can't be good
We just shouldn’t expect or count on it. His past performance indicates being a “very very good” player would be a surprise result to his career path.
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by thejd44 on Mar 19, 2010 11:06 AM PDT up reply actions
Fair enough
Rosales could possibly be a 3 WAR player like any other player on the A’s roster (ex relievers) including our 5th starter. Pennington has a nearly zero chance of reaching more than 2.
Rosales has had bad luck in the limited amount of action in the majors. He has shown an extremely decent ability to hot at AA and AAA levels.
Wha? How do you get that Rosales could be a 3 WAR player?
And Pennington is a full win worse? I think you’re projecting things that aren’t based on actual past performance or facts of any kind (except a small, useless spring sample).
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by thejd44 on Mar 19, 2010 11:20 AM PDT up reply actions
Above average defense at SS, 600 AB's, 740 OPS ?
I have very little idea about the formulae behind CHONE or MLE (and how many AB’s they project and why), but 900 OPS in AA and 800 in AAA (+ 1000 OPS in a SSS last year) would suggest to me that this guy is significantly better than Pennington.
Right after the Rosales/Miles trade, a Reds fan from Red Reporter emailed me asking for thoughts.
He said that most Reds fans were perfectly content with losing Rosales (especially because they lost Taveras in the process). He also added that he’s definitively not a good defensive shortstop and that he was a hacker at the plate. Doesn’t really match up with what we’ve seen so far, which is why I definitely want to get a longer look at the guy.
Of course, if he had a marginally better shortstop, Rosales would be relegated to backup. But because he’s Pennington…yeah, Rosales has a shot.
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And, yes, I think Rosales has a strong shot at being the starting SS. Don’t forget that the A’s are eating almost all of Willy Taveras’s salary just for the privilege of having Rosales on the team. In a way, that makes him one of the higher priced players on the A’s.
I think in the end, it cost us $900k to get Rosales
That’s the $4M Taveras was owed less the $2.7M Miles was owed, less the $400k Taveras is likely to make with the Nationals who luckily just cut Dukes so Taveras has a good shot at making the team.
So using your argument, Fox has a greater claim given that he cost us around $1.7M. And as I mentioned earlier, it will be hard for Chavez, Fox and Rosales to all make the team.
Maybe Gabe Gross and his $750k will be the odd man out… But that means more Cust and Fox in the OF.
I kinda think Gross should be the odd man out.
He’s a known quantity.
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by Gaijin_Suketto on Mar 19, 2010 11:53 AM PDT up reply actions
I'm on the MoneyPenny bandwagon.
I don’t think he’ll ever be a superstar, but he’s more than good enough to be our starting SS until we find someone better. He’s a very good defender (judging by my eye, before all the stats guru’s crucify me), a good base runner and useful at the plate.
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I don't get the "Rosales OMG" sentiment
You know, I hear Gary Matthews Jr is hitting the crap out of the ball too. Maybe we can trade for him and start him in CF? I don’t think that 23 ST at bats change the fact that he couldn’t hit a lick last year in Cincinnati, that his most impressive minor league stats have been compiled when he was old for the level of competition and that one of the most shortstop-starved teams in the NL traded him for Aaron Miles and some salary relief.
Frankly, I expect him to be a competent utility infielder at best and consider Pennington a more promising player.
don't give people around here any ideas
someone may go to a game and report that GMJ is “looking good”…
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I know your comment is tongue in cheek,
but in regards to “But since this is AN, we don’t want intangibles or my worthless two days of observations” may I just say, “Some of us DO want those things.” Like with alcohol everything but alcohol: everything in moderation.
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by Gaijin_Suketto on Mar 19, 2010 11:54 AM PDT up reply actions
"He can golf in a Mexican wrestlers' mask"
I assume you mean that that’s all he’d wear.
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sure, why not?
If he does, though, he should piss on fans in the gallery when they cough or won’t shut up quick enough.
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by Gaijin_Suketto on Mar 20, 2010 12:00 AM PDT up reply actions
Well then, there you have it.
I think Rosales looked good, and is full of hustle and grit :-)
I just wanted to know if there are any numbers out there that suggested that, as well.
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by baseballgirl on Mar 19, 2010 11:12 AM PDT up reply actions
Pennington has a very sexay 1:6 K:BB ratio this spring.
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check out Figgins and Aaron Hill
each has 9 BB, 0 K.
Beyond that, Hill is 6-for-12, Figgins is 2-for-19
Ahh Small Sample Size Training…
by scatterbrian on Mar 19, 2010 4:47 PM PDT up reply actions
Pennington has always had good K:BB ratios.
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Different lineup today, as retweeted by Slusser
Rosales starting at third today, Patterson at second.
lineup vs. COL at Tucson: Patterson 2B, Pennington SS, Barton 1B, Gross CF, Buck RF, Rosales 3B, Fox LF, Powell C, Cahill P
(sorry, still not adept at putting in links and quotes on the iPhone)
by OaklandSi on Mar 19, 2010 10:52 AM PDT via mobile reply actions
They don't want Cahill to make the roster so they need to sabotage his chances by putting THAT defense out there?
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by thejd44 on Mar 19, 2010 10:57 AM PDT up reply actions
Just wait till Cust comes in to play short in the 4th inning.
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by thejd44 on Mar 19, 2010 11:20 AM PDT up reply actions
I bet he'd block balls well.
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by Gaijin_Suketto on Mar 19, 2010 11:55 AM PDT up reply actions
How about a Platoon?
Robe Neyer made a case for a platoon at short the other day on his blog. Despite the fact that usually SS is not a platoon position, because of its defensive responsibilities, that maybe it might work for the A’s.
http://espn.go.com/blog/sweetspot/post/_/id/2723/as-should-go-with-radical-shortstops
I wouldn’t be opposed…
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Oh that's good...thanks for the link!
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by baseballgirl on Mar 19, 2010 11:13 AM PDT up reply actions
Wow... I agree with Rob Neyer on something...
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by Gaijin_Suketto on Mar 19, 2010 11:56 AM PDT up reply actions
If he couldn't, something is wrong with the A's.
I’m not saying he should, mind you, but merit—not age, draft position, or anything else—should be the criteria on which playing time is awarded. If Rosales plays better than Pennington, he should start, period.
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It is merit, as long as you're not just relying on the numbers.
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Correction
It is merit, as long as you’re notjust relying ononly not relying on, but not even looking at, or paying the remotest bit of attention to, the numbers.
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However you want to say it
Nothing should determine which one starts other than which one is playing better.
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I thought Rosales...
…was a corner IF? Did he get switched at ST, or has he been splitting duties in the minors?
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I think he's listed at 3B...
…but I thought it was pretty clear that he was “auditioning” for SS.
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by baseballgirl on Mar 19, 2010 11:55 AM PDT up reply actions
This is why...
…I need to pay more attention to what happens in Spring Training. And while I liked Pennington last season, if Rosales comes out of ST hot, give him a shot.
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so he's still letting himself get rattled.
That sucks
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at least he composed himself after the HR by Reynolds
that is a good sign. If he is getting rattled the catcher and pitching coach need to help calm him down.
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Could he? I guess. Could Megan Fox show up at my front door wearing a 2 piece?
(by 2 piece, I mean a pair of socks)
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I figured you meant gloves,
y’know to cover up those thumbs.
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I'm gonna go ahead and say it.
If the only thing you can nitpick about a chick is her thumbs then I think you’re doin pretty fuckin well…
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Well her attraction is that she looks like a porn star,
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"Despite the fact that he looks exactly like Bobby Crosby..."
I think Jane Lee said the same thing, and I’m assuming this means body language or something because I don’t see much of a resemblance.


Wait until you see him in uniform on the field
Face, no, but body type and movement? Unreal.
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by baseballgirl on Mar 19, 2010 12:33 PM PDT up reply actions
that's just a little disconcerting
the last thing you want to hear about a potential A’s starting shortstop are comparisons/references/parallels to Bobby Crosby….not that I don’t appreciate your effort.
by scatterbrian on Mar 19, 2010 4:49 PM PDT up reply actions
But how is Rosales with handling low and away sliders?
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by Streams Of Whiskey on Mar 19, 2010 1:31 PM PDT up reply actions
And do I hate him?
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