Local Boy Makes Good; A’s Dump D-Backs
by 67MARQUEZ on Mar 18, 2010 4:27 PM PDT
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PrintTyson Ross struck out seven batters in three innings of work, and the A’s used a four-run sixth to push past the Arizona Diamondbacks this afternoon, 7-3.
Ross, who just happens to be exactly 20 years plus 1 day younger than the person writing this recap, entered in the sixth inning of a tied ball game. The Bishop O’Dowd and Cal Berkeley graduate promptly plunked Justin Upton with a pitch, gave up a double to Mark Reynolds (who homered earlier), threw a wild pitch that allowed Upton to score, and walked a batter.
But the tall right-hander closed out the sixth with a flourish, striking out three Snakes in succession. The A’s rewarded him with a 4-spot in the bottom half, thanks to a base-clearing two-bagger off the bat of Eric Patterson, and then let Ross do his thing, which was strike out the first two batters of the seventh, and another pair in the eighth.
The A’s take on the Colorado Rockies tomorrow, game time 1:10.
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That's good to hear
From reading all the reports this spring from around the interwebs it seems like the coaching staff is genuinely impressed with Ross and days like today show why. A lot of people may still be worried about his mechanics but there’s no denying that he can definitely get hitters out with his stuff.
With most (all?) of our exciting pitching prospects having reached the majors already Ross becomes the one to follow almost by default. He could make it to AAA pretty quickly this year, if he doesn’t start there right away, and possibly have a cup of coffee this September. If he can emerge as a dependable prospect then he’d be perfect to add to a “seasoned” staff next year of Anderson/Cahill/Mazzaro/Gonzalez/Braden in some combination depending on health and effectiveness.
Oh and Eric Patterson seems to know how to make good contact so if he could become decent at some position he could be a pretty useful player.
"Their batters are patient to the point that it's annoying." -Ryan Franklin
I like your optimism, sir
But you’re forgetting the inevitable injury that will delay his development by 1-2 years. This is the A’s!
I agree Ross is the best pitching prospect to watch by "default"
but Figueroa showed some promise this spring, and I Leon impressed me when I saw him pitch last week.
While we may not have any real hyped guys to watch out for soon (save Ynoa), we do have some pitchers who could quietly prove there value pretty soon…
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by stranahanahan on Mar 18, 2010 5:26 PM PDT up reply actions
Leon impressed me too
He pulled the string on one slow curve to Posey — it was magnificent.
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by adragon on Mar 19, 2010 12:22 AM PDT via mobile up reply actions
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It is sweet
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by adragon on Mar 19, 2010 12:24 AM PDT via mobile up reply actions
My impressions from Phoenix:
- Ryan Sweeney is raking. Even the out he made in the second was a rocket to right that Upton had to make a great play on.
- Tyson Ross throws real hard and seems to sometimes even know where it’s going. Though I don’t really know anything about pitching mechanics, his delivery “feels” wrong to me. It’s all arms, no legs.
- Chavy looks old and his bat looks slow.
- Other than the massive home run by Reynolds, Gio generated a lot of week contact. His control even looked good until he nearly took a line drive to the crotch. He caught it, but it seemed to rattle him a bit, and he started walking people.
- The A’s did not take a walk today, and I don’t remember a whole lot of deep counts, either.
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Good point -
The fact that the A’s aren’t walking is to be of concern.
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3rd in the AL and 5th overall in walks...
for Spring Training 2010. Not bad.
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by FoolshGame22 on Mar 18, 2010 5:15 PM PDT up reply actions
Don't forget about Rosales.
He’s been hitting very well thusfar. Not sure how long it will last but while it does, I like it.
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by Streams Of Whiskey on Mar 18, 2010 7:16 PM PDT up reply actions
If the mechanics are bad...
Why don’t the coaches fix it? Can’t send a guy out there just to throw himself into pain and fear about his career, right? If it takes a year in the low minors to settle some new mechanics, fine. (At 34, he’s got a while to go before age catches up with him!)
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For those who haven't actually seen Tyson Ross's mechanics:
Courtesy of our SBNation friends at Driveline Mechanics.
That gif freezes at the most cringe-inducing point. Try making that motion without any velocity—just try and hold the pose that Ross is doing where the gif freezes (arms out, but elbows behind the plane of the chest). Now imagine doing that several times a day for years.
It looks like that video was taken before we drafted him. Not sure if our coaches did any tweaking or not.
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And here's another site explaining that painful position (the inverted W).
http://www.texasleaguers.com/inverted-w/
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If I'm reading Chris O'Leary's article correctly
the problem is not he inverted W shape but making the inverted W shape with your elbows above your shoulders. Is that correct?
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Seems like on a "triple letter score" it would be good
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Dude looks...
…like a gangly giant.
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Good example of his mechanics being somewhat odd, if not jacked up, Dan.
When I saw Tyson Ross pitch against the SJ Giants last year, I could not figure out for the life of me how he was able to generate so much velocity with that delivery!
Anyways, I’m pleased to hear about his outing today and let’s all hope that the A’s staff figures out how to help him fix his delivery before he blows out an sllbow or an abdominal muscle!
Go A’s!
"By the end of the year, I'll have Dallas throwing right-handed'' -Ben Sheets
an "elbow" that is!
My bad…
"By the end of the year, I'll have Dallas throwing right-handed'' -Ben Sheets
Yup, I posted it in the game thread.
The “inverted W” is the part that Mark Prior made famous.
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only an asshole quotes himself. -mikev
But at least Prior had a normal stride -- Ross just takes a step forward and flips the ball
"And Julio Franco is batting right-handed!" -- Wayne Hagin, A's radio play-by-play, mid-80s
The stride is probably just costing him some velocity
and causing some arm stress because his follow through and arm snapback aren’t very fluid.
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And yet, he hits upper 90's, right? I can't fathom how he does it with that all-arm delivery.
His delivery is like the anti-Lincecum.
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I thought he was around 92-94
I dunno, he’d probably throw 102 if he took a full stride :D
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Ah, okay.
But seriously? In the 90’s still? That delivery looks like it’d produce 85, tops.
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He's gigantic though. Like 6'6 or something.
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The snapback is still terrible
I wish someone had shown him old footage of Walter Johnson throwing sidearm and said, “Here, learn how to do this.”
"And Julio Franco is batting right-handed!" -- Wayne Hagin, A's radio play-by-play, mid-80s
Heh. That's what I get for not showing up in the gamethread.
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I can see a new way to make the "M" for the YMCA song. great, i am gonna practice it.
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Why don't you have more respect for the YWCA?
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I hear it's a lot more fun to stay there
I suspect that you think tilting at windmills means something other than what it does.
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by bobnothing on Mar 19, 2010 1:56 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
This looks like what I saw today
For those wondering if the A’s have “changed things”.
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I can't remember specifically
But The A’s did work on his mechanics after he was drafted, but I seem to recall it being something very minor and not a major overhaul of his delivery (which, IMO, is needed)
Dude needs to take advantage of his tall frame and generate some drive with his stride without those really bad arm angles.
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agreed mikev
He more than likely be able to generate at least another 3-5 miles per hour on his fastball if he took advantage of his frame with a change in his mechanics.
"By the end of the year, I'll have Dallas throwing right-handed'' -Ben Sheets
I mean, if a moron like me can see that
There’s gotta be some reason that actual baseball people aren’t seeing it — or aren’t trying to change it.
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only an asshole quotes himself. -mikev
There are morons like you?
Crap, I was hoping it was just you.
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I hate to be the bearer of bad news then
I AM VERY MUCH ENJOYING THE HITTING OF BASEBALLS AND SCORING OF RUNS. -mikev
only an asshole quotes himself. -mikev
maybe it was trying to make him keep his elbows below the shoulders?
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I just made that move to see what it felt like
and I felt three separate pops.
Ouch!
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by Gaijin_Suketto on Mar 18, 2010 11:18 PM PDT up reply actions
Slinging
That’s the word I would use to describe the way that Ross throws the ball. Not at all encouraging. The fact that he doesn’t seem to generate much of his torque from his lower body is almost more disconcerting than the “inverted W” (also known as an M).
by nobodyinparticular on Mar 19, 2010 12:48 AM PDT up reply actions
Mechanics
I vaguely recall reading an article saying that the A’s didn’t want to overhaul his mechanics b/c of his success with his current mechanics.
And he’s thrown that way for so long, so he feels most comfortable throwing like that (from an injury standpoint, he feels he throws with LESS strain on his arm that way).
If the kid likes to pitch that way...
…and he’s effective, why mess with him? Jamaal Wilkes had the ugliest jumpshot in history, but the ball went in the hoop. It’s not as if more conventional pitching motions have cut down on injuries to A’s pitchers.
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Because there a much, much higher chance of him getting injured.
Harden and Duchscherer are exceptions. Don’t let them change the rule.
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from A's drumbeat
Fifth starter candidate Gio Gonzalez walked four in 32/3 innings in the A’s 7-3 victory over Arizona, and he seemed upset he wasn’t getting more strike calls in the fourth. “That’s part of the game,” Geren said. “A couple of close calls didn’t go his way, and he didn’t shake it off the way you need to.” Before that rough patch, Geren said, Gonzalez was “unbelievably good.”
Read more: http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2010/03/18/SPUN1CI1P0.DTL#ixzz0ieMqpj21
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