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Billy Beane's Magic: Mark Mulder (Version 2)

Thinking back to that seemingly dreadful day when the A's traded Mark Mulder, I was bummed.  Looking at the trade now though, I realize how much we really got out of Mark Mulder (and a few others).

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04/05 Off Season:  A's trade Mark Mulder to the Cardinals for Dan Haren, Kiko Calero and Daric Barton.

This is where it all began.  In return for a pitcher that has since been hurt more often than healthy, we received an All-Star, a decent reliever and a prospect who may or may not pan out.

07/08 Off Season:  A's trade Dan Haren and Connor Robertson to the Diamondbacks for Carlos Gonzalez, Brett Anderson, Chris Carter, Dana Eveland, Greg Smith and Aaron Cunningham.

With this trade, the A's now had eight players in return for Mulder and Robertson (who had a terrible year with the Diamondbacks and was released a year later).  This trade in particular saw the A's part with All-Star Dan Haren, but it did land them three top prospects (Gonzalez, Anderson, Carter) and three marginal ones.

08/09 Off Season:  A's trade Huston Street, Carlos Gonzalez and Greg Smith to the Rockies for Matt Holliday.

This was not one of Beane's better trades, although his ability to deal Holliday at the deadline somewhat made up for trading away an All-Star closer and two of the players he received for Haren (one of whom was a top prospect).

09 Trade Deadline:  A's trade Matt Holliday to the Cardinals for Brett Wallace, Shane Peterson and Clayton Mortenson.

This trade somewhat made up for the previous one, as we received top prospect Brett Wallace and two other minor leaguers in return for Holliday.  It is still too early to truly judge the quality of this trade, but it was one the A's had to do because they knew they could not re-sign Holliday at the end of the season.

09/10 Off Season:  A's trade Brett Wallace to the Blue Jays for Michael Taylor.

This is a Billy Beane special, swooping into a trade that he has no business a part of.  It's a Billy Beane special in another way as well though, as he dished off a first round pick (Wallace) for a sixth rounder (Taylor).  When the trade is examined more closely though, one would notice that Taylor's batting stats are actually superior to those of Wallace.  The disparity grows even more when you factor in fielding, as Taylor is Gold-Glove caliber while Wallace is a liability.

09/10 Off Season:  A's trade Scott Hairston and Aaron Cunningham to the Padres for Kevin Kouzmanoff and Eric Sogard.

With the injury history of Eric Chavez, Beane knew he needed a third baseman.  He got a young one with some pop in Kevin Kouzmanoff in return for two players who would have probably not gotten adequate time in the crowded outfield (the A's already had Ryan Sweeney, Rajai Davis, Coco Crisp and Michael Taylor).  To go with Kouzmanoff, the A's received Eric Sogard, who had more walks (58) than strikeouts (47) last season in the minors.

09/10 Off Season:  A's trade Dana Eveland to the Blue Jays for a player to be named or cash considerations.

With the addition of Adam Rosales and Gabe Gross to the roster, Dana Eveland was one of the players who was designated for assignment.  Billy Beane was able to get something minor out of him though.

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Mark Mulder: The trade that keeps on giving...

…actually this is a bit misleading. It took Connor Robertson, Huston Street, and Scott Hairston, plus all of the players the A’s acquired from the Mulder trade and trades of the players acquired from the Mulder trade, etc., to make the current team.

I suppose Mulder was the ball that started everything rolling (no pun intended)…

Also, this is one of those once-in-a-lifetime deals where there was a lot of water in the well. For every trade like this, there are dozens of Tim Hudson like deals that are duds, and 100s of “meh” trades…

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by intexile_ on Feb 7, 2010 9:34 AM PST reply actions  

Playing time

You have to account for all of the service time Beane got out of those players. A year out of CarGon, a couple All Star worthy seasons out of Haren, decent year out of Eveland and Smith, A couple good years out of Kiko Calero, and some poor time out of Hairiston. A Stud in Anderson + Hope in Carter.

So we got more than a bunch of flipped players, we got some wins out of those players.

It's just more exciting with Billy Beane running the team.

by ru155 on Feb 7, 2010 5:44 PM PST up reply actions   1 recs

Remember to keep this link around

You’ll need it to attempt to pacify AN when Billy trades Brett Anderson for a haul of minor leaguers we’ve never heard of

by itsgemme on Feb 7, 2010 9:35 AM PST reply actions   1 recs

Sure he will...

After the 2013 championship season, his trade value will be at its’ highest.

"Sniff some krazy glue, and start a religion!"- The Reverend Billy Lard

by Gaijin_Suketto on Feb 7, 2010 10:20 AM PST up reply actions  

Is it just me, or is that notion really discouraging?

And yet, I have no reason to doubt it.

What are we at the park for except to win? I'd trip my mother. I'd help her up, brusher her off, tell her I'm sorry. But mother don't make it to third. ~Leo Durocher

by UncleLeo on Feb 7, 2010 10:42 AM PST up reply actions  

Makes for some fun conversation, but...

…I really see zero relevance 5 years removed, especially given the flurry of activity since then.

What are we at the park for except to win? I'd trip my mother. I'd help her up, brusher her off, tell her I'm sorry. But mother don't make it to third. ~Leo Durocher

by UncleLeo on Feb 7, 2010 10:44 AM PST reply actions  

Trading Eveland for cash considerations warrants a version 2?

The original was the exact same thing minus Eveland. It got 13 comments.

I don’t see the point in connecting the Mark Mulder trade to any of these trades, let alone one in which we are essentially dumping a character for cash. Why version two? You didn’t respond to any of the comments in the last post, so I hope you explain your reasoning this time around. I don’t see the connection here, and I don’t see why an updated version is necessary. Help me understand.

by LongLiveLangerhans on Feb 7, 2010 11:00 AM PST reply actions  

Yeah, personally I'm starting to find the "Look at all the stuff we got from Mulder!" posts quite tiresome.

"We were shit, pathetic," Guillen growled early in spring training. "We hit too many home runs."

by lenscrafters on Feb 7, 2010 2:41 PM PST up reply actions  

Pitchers and Catchers

We’re done trading (maybe?) and signing. We need to fill the space till we hit the old P&C report.

It's just more exciting with Billy Beane running the team.

by ru155 on Feb 7, 2010 5:46 PM PST up reply actions  

I was making sure that every aspect was included

Dana Eveland is one of the many players indirectly connected to the Mark Mulder trade. Hence, I made sure that everything we got out of him was included. If you want, I could include the eventual release of Kiko Calero I will not re-update this post again unless something major happens.

by Bay Area Sports Fan on Feb 7, 2010 9:08 PM PST up reply actions  

Well, do what you want.

Personally, I don’t see the point, though. I view all of these as separate trades that should be evaluated independent of each other.

by LongLiveLangerhans on Feb 7, 2010 11:01 PM PST up reply actions  

Paging mrfox...

It would be interesting to see this graphic updated…

by Poppy on Feb 9, 2010 2:07 PM PST reply actions  

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