A's 2010: Projecting The Bulls & The Bears
Let's start with this post: I'm projecting that reading it will be a bear because it contains a lot of bull.
Apparently, later today some violent people will be inordinately interested in a ball that isn't even round, while some truly excellent commercials will be constantly interrupted by a "football break." Janet Jackson isn't even performing at halftime and I am not especially keen to see the boob of any of the members of The Who, fine a band as they may be. So today I choose to ignore Colts and Saints and to focus instead on bulls and bears.
My predicted "bulls" for 2010:
Kevin Kouzmanoff I think leaving Petco will outweigh moving to a league with tougher and less familiar pitching and that Kouzmanoff will pleasantly surprise with his offensive numbers. Nothing gaudy, mind you, but I'll go ahead and predict a line of .255/.320/.460 with 22 HRs which, when combined with sure-handed and slightly-above average defense overall, makes him several notches above anything the A's have seen at 3B since Eric Chavez was healthy.
Daric Barton Start with the fact that Barton doesn't even have to improve his OBP in order to be excellent. I will admit, when I looked at the stats at the end of the 2009 season I expected to see Barton's OBP at a "solid" .345-.350 or so. I was rather stunned to note that it was .372. Given his age and ability, I expect some improvement from Barton, and if you just add 20 points to the BA and sprinkle in a few more doubles and a few more HRs -- in other words, nothing huge -- Barton becomes maybe a .290/.380/.450, 12-15 HR, 40 2B hitter with very good defense. Welcome back, Scott Hatteberg.
Ryan Sweeney Look, the A's are smarter than I am and they think Sweeney will develop power. I'm skeptical but we did see "doubles power" develop in the second half of 2009 and I'm going to go out on a limb and predict that my past predictions are wrong, and that Sweeney shows more doubles power, and more HR power, in 2010 without a huge drop elsewhere. I'll predict a line of .270/.350/.440, 14 HRs, and gold glove level defense in RF. And that's a very good player.
My predicted "bears" for 2010
Coco Crisp I just don't see him getting on base a lot -- which will neutralize his speed -- and I do see him finding himself odd man out by the ASB as Michael Taylor and Chris Carter begin to put pressure on the 4 "OF/DH" spots. I imagine Crisp is "Rajai-tanks protection" who, if Rajai hasn't tanked come July 1st, won't have a place in Oakland -- and will likely be either shipped to a contender who just lost an OFer or will become an expensive backup OFer. I'll predict a line of .240/.300/.380 with only 12 SBs.
Cliff Pennington Don't fall in love in September. Pennington surprised everyone with his offensive production late last season, but I expect his "Barton 2007" to become "Barton 2008" -- in this case, not because he isn't ready but rather because he isn't a good hitter. I'll predict a line of .225/.300/.350 with initially slightly above-average defense. But as it becomes clearer and clearer that Pennington is overmatched at the plate, he starts pressing a bit in the field and starts making too many errors on routine plays to where he is only an average to slightly below average defensive SS overall. Suddenly, Adam Rosales is pushing him for the job and/or another SS is entering the picture.
Dallas Braden I love the guy and I believe in him. I also believe that you pitch better when you have feeling in all 10 of your toes. I can see a scenario where Braden's balance is off, he compensates and -- like the warrior he is -- pitches pretty well through it, but ultimately injures his arm or back and cannot be the iron man he wants to be for Oakland. Secretly, I wonder if the A's have built a rotation that won't miss too big a beat if Braden goes down, knowing that Duchscherer and Sheets aren't the only health risks in the rotation going forward. My prediction for Braden: 4-5, 4.40 ERA.
Agree or disagree on these? Who are yours and why?
UPDATE 6:47 PST: Congratulations to the New Orleans Saints, and the city of New Orleans, for winning the 2010 Super Bowl.
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Urban recently tweeted that Braden told him
He can now feel all his toes.
Crisp needs to play to show suitors that he can. I just hope the A’s let Rajai start every day and lead off every day for a good long stretch, to give him a real chance at proving that what he did last season was not a fluke.
I think Barton is better defensively than Hatteberg. I agree on Pennington. I think Kouzmanoff will be better than Hannahan or Kennedy, but not as good as Chavvy.
by OaklandSi on Feb 7, 2010 7:10 AM PST via mobile reply actions
That's good to hear. I hadn't heard that he could feel
the piggie that goes “wee wee wee wee wee all the way home.”
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Whoa, I thought you meant UC Davis for a second. I almost had a new favorite player. But alas...
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by DyeLongJustice on Feb 7, 2010 9:50 AM PST up reply actions
Everything sounds pretty on the money
..I however would weight the National league pitching difference higher than the park difference between Oakland and SD. I say Kouzmanoff’s line is going to be about the same as career average. Bears: I absolutely love the Duke but I just can’t see him being healthy all year. I say 15 great starts this year and elbow tendinitis kicks in. Like the rest of AN I really am routing for him though!
by OnlybuyBeaneJerseys on Feb 7, 2010 7:33 AM PST reply actions
Pennington callup 1 vs callup 2
The first time he came up he was completely overwhelmed and I dismissed him after a few weeks.
Last year, he showed more maturity and surprising “pop” which made me question my first impression. I think that because he hasn’t been rushed, his numbers will be pleasantly surprising to most.
Defensively, he’s got a cannon arm and decent range. Let’s hope he continues to work hard on his defense until Gallego’s watchful eye (vs his blind eye) and continue to develop.
My bear pick is actually Cust. I don’t think he’s going to get much better. With limited time in the field he won’t be as focused sitting in the dugout all game long.
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Cust of the field
Is a bull projection IMO.
by OnlybuyBeaneJerseys on Feb 7, 2010 7:37 AM PST up reply actions
Agree with most of your predictions
except Braden. I think he will factor into more decisions than 9. I’d give him a 12-10, 3.65 era. This year he won’t be the ‘stand-in’ ace (which he did admirably last year), or the veteran presence in the rotation, which added pressure. I think there will be less pressure on him this year and in turn he will less likely get injured.
I am hoping Pennington does more like .240/.315/.365, but your numbers are probably more realistic.
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by Charlie O the Mule on Feb 7, 2010 8:23 AM PST reply actions
I don't know/care about wins
but I predict his ERA will be 4.10. Basically, around the 4 mark.
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by DyeLongJustice on Feb 7, 2010 9:51 AM PST up reply actions
I factored in that he gets shelled his last start before leaving with Steve Sayles.
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As long as he can bridge the gap until Outman is ready
then we’re ok. Except that I’m still not sold on Outman being quite as good as he showed last year, and especially not after that surgery.
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by DyeLongJustice on Feb 7, 2010 9:59 AM PST up reply actions
I'm not expecting Outman in the rotation in 2010
It often takes a while for pitchers who get TJ surgery, not only to heal, but also to rebuild arm strength.
I am holding out hope...
that he returns to his original delivery, the one his dad invented that he used in high school. It’s supposedly injury-free, right? After Tommy John surgery, maybe he’ll get fed up with the one his coaches made him change to.
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by Philip Christy on Feb 7, 2010 11:08 AM PST up reply actions
Yay!
I’m totally banging the drum for the goofy Outman delivery.
On the other hand, I’ve heard absolutely nothing to suggest that it’s being considered anywhere except here in AN gossip. But hey, we can dream.
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I personally just want the socks back!
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by DyeLongJustice on Feb 7, 2010 12:09 PM PST up reply actions
Right it's just gossip...
But I’m still holding out hope.
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by Philip Christy on Feb 7, 2010 12:55 PM PST up reply actions
I don't think there's any such thing as an "injury-free delivery."
The stress on the body when throwing a ball over 90 miles per hour is literally pushing one’s shoulder to the breaking point.
by Opus Youngblood on Feb 7, 2010 1:52 PM PST up reply actions
Sweeney
Looking at his CHONE projections
.286/.350/.409 (8 HR, 27 doubles), I’m inclined to take those. He won’t hit for the power we all hope he will develop, but he will have the doubles power. That’s probably the best we can hope for, so I guess that makes him neither a bull nor a bear.
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Well, we can hope for someone to exceed his CHONE projections.
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I'm good with any and all improvement from Swooney.
Also, his defense alone makes him a joy to watch. In regards to his power number or lack there of….I think he hasn’t hit for a ton of power because he doesn’t try to hit HR’s, rather he looks to make solid contact and hit the gaps which turn into all of those doubles.
Maybe it’s a stretch but you know the “Ichiro theory”? I’m sure if Sweeney was focusing more of his attention on hitting the long ball that it could very well happen, but maybe at the expense of losing a little bit of contact/avg.
Hell, I don’t know. It’s fun to do this excersise, though.
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Ichiro was WAY more experienced then
than Sweeney is now. I’m not sure it’s a valid comparison, but I’d love for it to be true nonetheless.
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by cuppingmaster on Feb 7, 2010 12:14 PM PST up reply actions
27 doubles isn't what I'd call "doubles power" though
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by thejd44 on Feb 7, 2010 10:50 AM PST up reply actions
Sweeney
Of his 27 doubles, 22 of them came in the final three months of the season. Would you consider 40 doubles as “doubles power” if he gets there in 2010?
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by Rated-R Superstar on Feb 7, 2010 12:37 PM PST up reply actions
I certainly would and I think it's possible
Maybe even more likely than 15 HRs.
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Sorry
He hit 31 doubles in 2009, not 27. That 27 came from his CHONE projection in 2009.
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by Rated-R Superstar on Feb 7, 2010 1:00 PM PST up reply actions
Bears should be
I hope you are right on the bears but I see a few bears out there. Sheets will be a bear. He will be ace of the staff the first 3 months and then traded for a starting SS. Another bear will be Fox he will be our lefty killer. Landon Powell will be the surpise getting around 250 abs and just crushing the ball and playing part time against lefties at first.
As for Bull I completly agree with the Crisp thing. Braden i see as about a 12 win guy and ERA of 4.20. Pennington will be neither. He will give the A’s a 250/320 with about 10 homeruns. Nothing special just a average player. The bull is much tougher to predict since so many A’s last year declined it will hard for them to go down any further.
Bull=good; bear=bad.
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Reading the title...
I’m reminded of the old SNL skit of Da’ Bulls and Da’ Bears:

"Twenty minutes," says Jack Sr. "Thank god for Billy Beane."
"Any fan that wants us to do that is going to be disappointed because that just isn’t us." - Wolff
As a Chicagoan, I love this sketch becaus eit makes fun of meatball Chicago sports fans
Most Chicagoans love it because they think they’re being honored or something. It’s sad, really.
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by thejd44 on Feb 7, 2010 10:51 AM PST up reply actions
True parody does honor those whom it makes fun of.
It’s only since belittling sarcasm took over comedy in the 1980s that things like this became hateful.
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so this is all Richard Belzer's fault?
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by Leopold Bloom on Feb 7, 2010 8:30 PM PST up reply actions
In my world, Kouzmanoff = Grizzly Man. I'm almost as bearish on him as I was Giambi last year.
Not that his numbers will be as terrible as Giambi’s, but in terms of projection/expectation I just think people are going to be really, really disappointed with him.
I’m with you on Barton, Sweeney, and Crisp. I think Pennington is going to be a perfectly acceptable player, probably about 1.5 WAR. I have no idea on Braden. Pitchers coming off injury are such wild cards that him putting up the line you predicted wouldn’t necessarily be a disappointment for me.
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by thejd44 on Feb 7, 2010 10:55 AM PST reply actions
Almost totally agree
I’d put Raj under bears too, but I could see Crisp falling there too. Baseball has a way of eliminating depth quickly. Two of the A’s CFs putting up terrible numbers would certainly be that. OTOH, Fox will be a bull. I think he’s a damn good hitter if not as good as his BJ projection.
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Coco Pebbles
is this years OCab…but gimpier.
I'll have a sandwich and a draft(sic). - Bill King (RIP)
So if Barton is the new Hatteberg,
does that mean Scott is grandpa now?
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by Gaijin_Suketto on Feb 8, 2010 1:34 AM PST up reply actions
Crisp yes Barton no
I agree, I don’t see much from Crisp this year. Barton on the other had I NEVER see anything more than a AAAA player. He has had his shot and done very little with it. Outside of September he is HORRIBLE!
What didn't you like about his .372 OBP in 2009?
What don’t you like about his defense?
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Barton
The only things I can think of that are knocks on Barton’s .372 on-base percentage in 2009 are his splits and his 160 at-bats. Personally, I think he’ll be around .280/.380/.430 in 2010.
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by Rated-R Superstar on Feb 7, 2010 12:55 PM PST up reply actions
.188!
Barton’s Avg. on Sep.2nd. .188! An OBP at the end of the year can not excuse a .188 average going into September. Yes he can hit in September. Last time I checked baseball starts in April.
Uh, he had a grand total of about 60 at bats up till that point.
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by lenscrafters on Feb 8, 2010 10:06 PM PST up reply actions
Why don't the A's invest in a hypnotoad?
“It’s September 1st today, Mr. Barton”
by ElQuesoCapitan on Feb 7, 2010 2:50 PM PST up reply actions
ALL HAIL THE HYPNOTOAD
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by Leopold Bloom on Feb 7, 2010 8:31 PM PST up reply actions
Bull on Gio
Everytime Gio has jumped a level he struggled and his 2nd go round done well.
What could this team do with an additional $25 million in payroll
The A’s $55 million payroll is projected to be the lowest in the AL, the 2nd lowest is indians at about $65 million. The Royals have an $80 million payroll. Within the division rangers is around$80 million, Mariners around $100 million, and Angels well over $100 million



























