Blue Jays acquire Dana Eveland for player to be named.
by KeelerPi on Feb 6, 2010 12:51 PM PST
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Not sure if this has been posted yet, I did not see it and it doesn't exactly qualify as breaking news but I am in 2 feet of snow in Philly so here you go
From MLB Trade Rumors.com According to a team press release, Toronto has acquired left-hander Dana Eveland from the A's in exchange for a player to be named later or cash considerations. About two bucks maybe?
In nine starts for the Athletics last season, the 26-year-old posted a 7.16 ERA with 4.5 K/9 and 5.3 BB/9.
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Oh well
I was holding out a little hope that the A’s could get a low minors C+ prospect. Slusser had said Eveland and Petit were both drawing some interest. Instead, looks like the A’s will just get organization filler. And the Mulder tree loses another member.
Eveland would have been nice depth. He had a nice 2008. Best of luck in Canadia.
"Loyal? I'm the most loyal player money can buy." - Don Sutton
The best we could realistically hope for
Eveland was horrible in 2008, uneven in 2007, and we have a lot of guys who look just as good or better in the high minors. Given that he’s out of options, it’s not surprising that a PTBN (or cash) is the best we could do. Better than nothing. The fact that Petit still has options makes him valuable/useful to some teams, and if we can get another lottery ticket for him (PTBN or other non-prospect who might surprise us), that’s fine.
by andyinfremont on Feb 6, 2010 4:02 PM PST up reply actions
Happy day!
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by Flashfire on Feb 6, 2010 12:56 PM PST reply actions 1 recs
Just less competition for Gio
He has such good stuff. I’m hoping to all hope that he gets first crack to start the year. He could flameout, but I still believe.
"It took eight hours, seven and a half to find the heart"- Earl McCatty
I'm pretty excited to see Gio this year
I suspect that you think tilting at windmills means something other than what it does.
Beane likes giving away talent to the Jays
Hopefully doesnt backfire and eveland turns into another Ted Lilly.
Ted Lilly was actually good for us
Dana Eveland, not so much
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by cuppingmaster on Feb 6, 2010 1:23 PM PST up reply actions
You're actually comparing..
Ted Lilly to Dana Eveland? O.o
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by ST on Feb 6, 2010 10:47 PM PST up reply actions
Giving away talent?
Are we talking about the same player?
Some motherfcukers are always trying to ice skate uphill - Blade.
and in other ex-A's news, Ronald McDonald
(aka Bobby Kielty) is trying to make a comeback to MLB as a pitcher
which I find funny, since he would never give up switch hitting
When he was only good one way. But yet he will convert to pitching…. umm ok.
Such a short-sighted comment
Ever think that if Kielty had batted right-handed against RHPs, he might have been much, much worse than he was while batting left-handed?
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by thejd44 on Feb 8, 2010 10:56 AM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Fair enough
But the splits were so fantastically disparate that you’d figure he’d at least consider the idea. Instead, he outright refused.
For the record, I miss Kielty. Mainly because I miss the days when the A’s had legitimate situational offensive threats coming off the bench instead of, “whatever washed-up vet or failed prospect we have left.”
"Smokey, this be not the foul jungles of the darkest East Orient. This be ninepins. We are bound by laws."
No, he did consider the idea.
And concluded it was the wrong choice for him. Everyone’s acting like it’s just a simple matter of standing on the other side of the box. But if you’ve been hitting one way your whole life, always seeing the ball come from the pitcher’s outside arm, there’s a learning curve involved in changing it. Maybe Kielty would be better in the long run (or maybe he wouldn’t) but in the meanwhile he’d have to take time off in order to work on it. He was a marginal player already. Missing that time could have ended his career.
Kielty is not an idiot, and he knows better than we do what amount of re-working it would take to switch. He would have weighed the pros and cons, and evidently he concluded that he had better career chance to just accept that he’s a marginal bench player who sucks from one side but at least has a job.
Maybe you think you know better than he does what is good for him and you disagree with his decision. OK, fine. But that still doesn’t mean he didn’t even consider it. Of course he did.
There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, Than are dreamt of in your philosophy.
Plus, he DID bat RH against a RHP
It was Wakefield. He struck out. Bad clown.
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I'm with you
He had it suggested to him some 7 bazillion times by every team that has ever employed him, thought about it each time, and said “no.” Good for him. He has also complained about being a platoon player, and it seems to me that a possible way of overcoming that perception is seeing if you can outperform your career .227 average against RHP by batting right-handed. I’ll agree that it’s not as simple as just standing on the other side of the plate. But if you’re already a non-factor from one side of your supposed switch-hitting “ability,” wouldn’t it behoove you to at least make a go of it? Say, by working on it all off-season and through Spring Training? Even if it doesn’t work out, at least you made the attempt.
For my part, I tend to agree with the notion put out there by some professional baseball writers— one of which was Olney, I think, though I’m not 100% sure— that most of the decision on his part was business-related. That is, it looks better on your resume that you’re at least nominally a switch-hitting bat coming off the bench, whether or not you are in practice. Whether or how many more dollars went into his pocket as a result of that “S” next to his name in the batting lineup, I don’t know. But those writers certainly seemed to feel it was significant to Kielty.
I don’t presume to know his ability any better than he does. I do presume to know that he has the largest differential in batting averages in the history of the game dating back to 1969 because I read it here. (Note: The article is a year old). The very next paragraph after that factoid points out that no one else comes close. Conceding that average isn’t the best statistic by which to measure a hitter’s ability, I’ll say at least that being the guy with the largest disparity in modern history means you might want to give it the ol’ college try.
"Smokey, this be not the foul jungles of the darkest East Orient. This be ninepins. We are bound by laws."
if just about every team that employs you
suggests that you at least try something (not only “consider” it), and you don’t, you might earn the handle of “uncoachable”. That’s what some had suggested about Bobby Crosby , by the way. During his last two seasons with the A’s he finally did try to listen to various suggestions about altering his batting approach…unfortunately it didn’t seem to help.
I read an update (can't remember where, sorry)
where Kielty said he was trying to get a major league job as a right handed hitting player off the bench, and that he would be willing to additionally be a reliever.
Hey, the guy’s trying…
Add middle-inning mascot and you have yourself a terrific bargain.
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
It did mention a slider
So it could still be burger-related.
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by Flashfire on Feb 6, 2010 2:06 PM PST up reply actions 2 recs
That's awesome.
Kielty is cool.
There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, Than are dreamt of in your philosophy.
He's Jose Canseco in reverse!
…without the steroids…
when I find a witty signature, y'all will be the first to know...
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There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, Than are dreamt of in your philosophy.
Rick Ankiel, Adam Loewen....
"Loyal? I'm the most loyal player money can buy." - Don Sutton
So eveland and smith turned out to be fluke
At least they got 1 solid season out of either.
Both of them are still only 26.
It’s too early to call them flukes.
by Opus Youngblood on Feb 6, 2010 1:33 PM PST up reply actions
I really liked Smith, so I'm rooting for him to have a decent career.
What are we at the park for except to win? I'd trip my mother. I'd help her up, brusher her off, tell her I'm sorry. But mother don't make it to third. ~Leo Durocher
hi entire game is based off being goo at picking off runners.
thats not something to base your game on.
I like your sentence better than the one you tried to write.
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
Even better would be:
His entire game is based on picking goo off runners.
There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, Than are dreamt of in your philosophy.
He'd need to team up with someone who's entire
game is based on putting goo on runners. LB, you’re looking to get out of the sign business and are particularly good at this, no?
CuttheMullet, from "The Thread":
"Whenever I’m about to do something, I think "would an idiot do that?" and if they would, I do not do that thing."
What was the name of the Raider defensive back
Who used to put “stickem” all over himself? He made lots of interceptions but other players complained about all that goo.
by OaklandSi on Feb 7, 2010 7:18 AM PST via mobile up reply actions
Lester Hayes
That’s from my era. The anti-stickum rule was enacted shortly before I started watching football, but Lester was still playing, and the announcers would talk about it a lot.
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Hey
You can’t post pictures of the Raiders on here!
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by Rated-R Superstar on Feb 7, 2010 1:23 PM PST up reply actions
Yes
I know. I was just kidding.
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by Rated-R Superstar on Feb 7, 2010 1:49 PM PST up reply actions
Damn
I was bamboozled!
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by Rated-R Superstar on Feb 7, 2010 2:11 PM PST up reply actions
I know a secret or two about goo...
she wouldn’t mind if I tell you…
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by Gaijin_Suketto on Feb 8, 2010 12:18 PM PST up reply actions
We ought to just take the cash
Unless it’s someone we actually have a use for
"Do I talk to myself? No, I just remind myself of what I'm trying to do. You know, I never answer myself so how can I be talking to myself?" - Rickey
Bold statement...
"I'm not going to buy my kids an encyclopedia. Let them walk to school like I did." -Yogi Berra
YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
We got rid of Dana Eveland AND we may get to face him! Life is good.
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
We can't even chalk this one up to a Beane's buddy working over there...
"I'm not going to buy my kids an encyclopedia. Let them walk to school like I did." -Yogi Berra
Well, it is someone that JP hired, so it is still sorta true
I suspect that you think tilting at windmills means something other than what it does.
I'm not expecting too much in return on this one
But I am a little intrigued on why they went the PTBNL route in the deal. Is it possible it could be tied to how Eveland performs with the Bluejays? Like the A’s have two lists of players they want, an A list and a B list, if Eveland makes the Jay’s 25-man roster to start the season they get to pick from the A list, if he doesn’t make it the A’s select from the B list or get cash.
I seriously doubt that.
I think it’s a PTBNL because Billy hasn’t gotten around to reading up on whatever C- scrubs are on the list to choose from. Since Eveland was DFA there was a time limit for consummating the deal. Now he’ll decide on the guy (or cash) at his leisure once trading season slows down. GMs are busy right now. They have more free time after opening day.
There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, Than are dreamt of in your philosophy.
... well that reduces the number of players in DFA limbo to...
[checks roster]
[examines team headquarters for signs of a struggle]
[counts bodies]
… three, right?
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Shawn Spencer: "There’s no way I’m saying that."
Taveras and Petit.
CuttheMullet, from "The Thread":
"Whenever I’m about to do something, I think "would an idiot do that?" and if they would, I do not do that thing."
Slusser said teams have interest in Petit
I wouldnt expect much of anything in return. Not suprisingly, there has not been any mention on Taveras interest. Other than a couple articles about Houston Astros
Taveras = Not for $4M
"Do I talk to myself? No, I just remind myself of what I'm trying to do. You know, I never answer myself so how can I be talking to myself?" - Rickey
by cuppingmaster on Feb 6, 2010 5:04 PM PST up reply actions
Taveras already got paid though
We paid him $4MM then cut him. He’s now min wage fodder for like, the White Sox.
It hasn't been 10 days yet
So unless he’s been outright released, he’s still in his DFA period.
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but we traded Miles, so it's really only 2m...
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by DyeLongJustice on Feb 6, 2010 10:56 PM PST up reply actions
The A's aren't on the hook for that money until he's released as far as I know.
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by thejd44 on Feb 7, 2010 1:22 AM PST up reply actions
The Ginger Ninjas?
I suspect that you think tilting at windmills means something other than what it does.
Meh....
least we got something for him, regardless of how little that may have been.
"I mean, come on, man. I'm a vet. Don't talk to me like that. If they do, I'll just smile." Nnamdi Asomugha
I disagree with the move to designate Eveland, but ill withhold judgement until i see the PTBNL
"Since other people actually read these threads, though, probably best that your particular brand of wrongness not go completely unchallenged." - PT
There are differing opinions on me. According to Iglew "DFA is PT with a sense of humor. PT is DFA with introspective self-doubt. I like them both" but according to sirbed Im "The Stats Killer"
by designatedforassignment on Feb 6, 2010 8:39 PM PST reply actions
With my luck, it'll be Bobby Crosby.
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
It baffles me that many of the stat-oriented people here think Eveland is something other than bad
He’s a 6th starter, the A’s have plenty of 6th starters, and he was out of options… the ptbnl will suck or will be some money.
With stout hearts, and with enthusiasm for the contest, let us go forward to victory. ----Hero Defector Montgomery
Thank you!
Seriously, he’s just not good.
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
The PTBNL will be better than just suck,
He also won’t be on the 40 man roster.
CuttheMullet, from "The Thread":
"Whenever I’m about to do something, I think "would an idiot do that?" and if they would, I do not do that thing."
He's less than not good
Everytime I watched him pitch he was terrible. 2 million baserunners per inning. One would think by just watching him pitch that it is enough to know pathetic he is.
There is no STAT invented that could convince me otherwise.
Sometimes you watch a player and form an opinion. Not trying to insult anyone but how the hell can any of you think he is anything but terrible?
He's NOT "less than not good."
He’s exactly not good. But he’s also likely above replacement. I understand the move to DFA him, but he’s underrated on AN.
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by thejd44 on Feb 7, 2010 1:22 AM PST up reply actions
There are people here who act like Eveland should be pitching in co-ed softball leagues
I’d say at least 80% of AN doesn’t think Eveland is a major-league quality player. That makes him underrated. It doesn’t mean the A’s shouldn’t have left him go, but people are not accurately evaluating him.
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by thejd44 on Feb 8, 2010 10:58 AM PST up reply actions
Woohooo!
Celebrate!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-bWdWZLSTio
By the way “cash considerations” means they’ll pay for him, NOT that they’ll give us money.
:)
P.S…. Why is no-one trying Eveland as a reliever if his problem is stamina?
Is this the real life-
Is this just fantasy-
Caught in a landslide-
No escape from reality-
LOL
Eveland to Geren: “This has never happened to me before.”
Geren (dishevelled, smoking a cigarette): Whatever, buddy.
Canadian: HE’S NOT YOUR BUDDY, GUY!
Is this the real life-
Is this just fantasy-
Caught in a landslide-
No escape from reality-
Eveland to Geren: "This has never happened to me before."
Geren: “You threw a strike?”
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
Because his lack of stamina is the best thing he has going?
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
Sure
Can he play shortstop?
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by Rated-R Superstar on Feb 7, 2010 1:24 PM PST up reply actions
No, but he's the best defensive LF Bobby Cox has ever seen!
"Loyal? I'm the most loyal player money can buy." - Don Sutton
Good, as long as the player to be named isn't Dana Eveland.
"PECOTA can pretty much kiss my ass."-Nico
That would actually be kind of cool in a remarkably strange way.
CuttheMullet, from "The Thread":
"Whenever I’m about to do something, I think "would an idiot do that?" and if they would, I do not do that thing."
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