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A's Stolen Base Records, odds and ends, and such...



Someone submitted a fanpost on this site commenting on how thye A's might steal 200 bases this year (with Crisp, Davis, and Taveras in the starting line-up). 

With that in mind, I think it might be useful to look at one of the many stolen base records associated with the Oakland A's...and no, Rickey Henderson does not hold the record, nor is he part of the group that does.

I draw your attention now to the 1976 Oakland Athletics.  In 1976, Charles Finely still owned the team.  The A's had won the AL West Division the previous year, without Catfish Hunter, but had lost the ALCS in a three game sweep to the Boston Red Sox.  Before the start of the season, the A's traded Reggie Jackson and Ken Holtzman to the Baltimore Orioles

That year, the A's were managed by Chuck Tanner.  Tanner must have had a perpetual green light on at first base, because the A's set a modern major league record for stolen bases, swiping an impressive (in fact, unheard of) 341.

The top three base stealers were Billy North--who also led the major leagues with 75, Bert Capaneris with 54, and a very young and speedy Don Baylor came in a close third with 52.  The rest of the team swiped the remaining 160. 

All of this mad dashing around the basepaths wasn't enough to win the division, however, as the A's came in second at 87-74--although they only finished 2 1/2 games behind the Kansas City Royals in what must have been a much weaker division than previous years. 

Rickey Henderson wasn't signed until 1977.  Imagine how many bases the A's might have swiped had he been on that team, under Tanner's managing (571?  More?)!

What I have not been able to track down, is the number of times the A's were caught stealing that year, but it must have been quite high (anyone have a copy of the Baseball Encyclopedia?)

Speaking of which, at the A's fanfest, the subject of statistics came up time and again (usually in the context of asterisks and steroids).  One statistic that I discussed was the changes in what was defined as a stolen base.  Prior to the 20th Century--though again, I am not sure how far back into the past (Baseball Encyclopedia again folks?)--walks, advancing on wild pitches and passed balls, and advancing on sacrifice flys / hits were also counted as stolen bases. 

A great many of the National League major league ball players recorded stolen base totals in the low 100s over the course of the 19th century, but it's likely that most of those were not what Rickey Henderson, Vince Coleman, or Lou Brock would call a stolen base. 

In any case, I am happy to see the stolen base being brought back into the A's offense.  I have argued here (and elsewhere) in the past that it has been sorely missing from the A's game plan for far too long.

With that in mind, even though Taveras is not on the roster, after all, what do AN members project as the A's stolen base total this year?

Poll
How many bases will the A's steal as a team this year?
More than 100 (Crisp and Davis will steal at least 50 each)
52 votes
Less than 100, but more than 50 (Even though Crisp and Davis can steal that many, the days of wild base running are over)
25 votes
Less than 50, but more than 15 (Crisp and/or Davis will be traded long before the trading deadline)
1 votes
15 or less (Crisp and or Davis will suffer season-ending injuries and/or will be traded long before the deadline, or DFA'ed)
3 votes

81 votes | Poll has closed

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Couple things

The 1976 A’s had 123 CSs to go with their 341 SBs. That’s a 74% success rate for those counting at home. It’s also about the break even point.

On another note, I voted over 100 but I don’t see Crisp getting 50. Dude’s career high is 28. But with Davis getting 40ish (although I think he’ll get benched midseason, he’ll still pinch-run quite a bit), Crisp stealing 20ish, and Pennington stealing 20ish, the rest of the team only will need to steal 20 more. The A’s will get the century mark, if barely.

"Loyal? I'm the most loyal player money can buy." - Don Sutton

by vignette17 on Feb 5, 2010 11:44 PM PST reply actions  

I didn't want to make the poll too complicated...

…besides, polls are always an imperfect reflection of complex reality!

(There! I dare you to use that for your sig. ;-) )

when I find a witty signature, y'all will be the first to know...

by intexile_ on Feb 6, 2010 12:13 AM PST reply actions  

If Rajai can hit .290 and 600 plate appearances...

…he’ll steal 60. 50 easy. If he learned to walk more, he’d be in the 70 range

HE STOLE 41 BASES LAST YEAR WITH 200 LESS PLATE APPEARANCES THAN THE OTHER TOP THIEFS

WHY DO YOU GIVE NO RESPECT TO DAVIS? PLEASE TELL ME…

by Screamer on Feb 9, 2010 1:15 PM PST reply actions  

Somewhat Related.

I was in attendance (on a field trip no less) when Rickey stole 939. I still have the little "I WAS THERE’ flyers that Rickey had done up in the event that he surpassed Lou Brocks record, along with the ticket stub, framed.

In matters of style, swim with the current; in matters of principle, stand like a rock. ~ Thomas Jefferson

by ZacharyCF on Feb 9, 2010 2:59 PM PST reply actions  

wow

that is a lot of steals.

Has any team in history stole less than 15 bases in a season? that seems ridiculous. If every starter steals 2 bases that is more than 15.

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by micdog2001 on Feb 10, 2010 1:04 AM PST reply actions  

The last team to steal less than 15

was the 1957 Senators. Their leader was 33-year old backup catcher Ed Fitz Gerald.

by cosmic charlie on Feb 11, 2010 5:46 AM PST reply actions  

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