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Have You Met Jane Lee? A's Spring Training Preview

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Next order of business? PITCHERS AND CATCHERS REPORT TO SPRING TRAINING IN SIX DAYS!!!!

Excited? I thought so. That being said, I hope you all have been introduced to the A’s new beat writer, Jane Lee (Twitter @JaneMLB). Lee takes some questions in Wednesday’s Inbox and also previews Spring Training in this article, as well as on her blog. I think a lot of this might be of some interest before the upcoming season.

I projected the 25 man roster in last Friday's post, and Jane Lee has projected hers; complete with a projected batting order, as well as her guess on the fifth starter for the rotation and the bullpen spots.

I almost agree.

Star-divide

Our rosters are identical; she chose Trevor Cahill and Brad Kilby to fill the 5th starter/long relief position that I left open, and from a fairly obvious process of elimination, the 25th man has to be either Chavez or Fox (she picked Fox).  I would have too, but we both know that if Eric Chavez has a healthy Spring Training, he will make the team, and it's likely that Fox is the only one who can be replaced.

My pre-Spring Training guess for the fifth starter position is Gio Gonzalez, but it is just as likely that Trevor Cahill will win the spot, and with Ziegler, Blevins, Bailey, Wuertz, Devine, and Breslow in relief, the A's have one of the best bullpens in the league.

From Jane Lee:

As a side note to consider, though, Geren said this week he could possibly use a starting candidate in the bullpen for long relief, so that could come into play and jeopardize a roster spot for Blevins, Kilby or even Devine, who has yet to prove his health since undergoing Tommy John elbow reconstruction surgery. However, the only way I see that happening is if that guy is Gio Gonzalez, for reasons being he has bullpen experience and is a southpaw -- something the A's could use to diversify their relief corps even more.

I made this exact quote to someone the other day; that it would be more likely that Gio would stay in the bullpen because of his experience, rather than Cahill, but looking back at the numbers, when was Gio in the 'pen? I distinctly remember him being called up for long relief; yet the numbers show Gonzalez making exactly 3 relief appearances in 2008 and 3 in 2009 (against 24 starts in the same time period). Not exactly the experience I thought he had. I think it's a bad idea to put either in the 'pen to start the year; pick the best 5th starter for the big club, and get the other one into the regular rotation at AAA. We have Sheets and Duchscherer as one/two; you have to imagine the AAA rotation will be called up sooner rather than later, and Brad Kilby can fill the last bullpen spot.

She also projects the batting order:

Projected batting order

1) LF Rajai Davis
2) CF Coco Crisp
3) C Kurt Suzuki
4) DH Jack Cust
5) 3B Kevin Kouzmanoff
6) RF Ryan Sweeney
7) 2B Mark Ellis
8) 1B Daric Barton
9) SS Cliff Pennington

And for those of you curious about Chris Carter and Michael Taylor?

When do you think we can expect to see Chris Carter and Michael Taylor make their big league debuts? Both appear ready, but will they start the year at Triple-A?
-- Trevor H., Reno, Nev.



I've received some form of this question multiple times, so A's fans need listen carefully, although you'll probably hear a lot more about them once Spring Training commences. The A's brass has made it clear that, while both Carter and Taylor represent large pieces of the club's future, they would ideally like to start the rising duo at Triple-A to not only preserve their Major League service time, but to give them a little more seasoning. The organization also wants to make certain that Carter and Taylor are here to stay once handed their tickets to The Show.

Carter has only 13 games of Triple-A experience under his belt, so the current plan is to give the more experienced, but still unproven, Daric Barton full-time responsibilities at first base in Oakland. Meanwhile, Taylor has played in only 30 games at the Triple-A level, giving the A's no reason to rush him when an already well-stocked defensive outfield is in tow. Thus, the club is interested in evaluating how both will perform with the big boys this spring. Geren, for one, can't wait to see if Taylor is the real deal. The A's skipper has only seen video of the outfielder, but said a couple weeks ago that he looked like "a man among boys."

So what do you think? What upcoming Spring Training feature are you most excited about? What do you think the final roster will look like? Who wins the starting pitcher duel? Who are you most excited to see on the field? And most importantly, when are you going?

Poll
What are you most excited about for Spring Training?
The starting pitcher competition
106 votes
The 25 man roster race
62 votes
Seeing prospects like Carter and Taylor
396 votes
Seeing Chavez possibly play
97 votes
Seeing our new additions
75 votes
Other
24 votes

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That lineup sucks!

No nice way to say it. The current team has to be perfect almost every game to win. Very little room for error.

by asfaninpismobeach on Feb 12, 2010 8:33 AM PST reply actions  

Such pessimism is not warranted.

The lineup need not perform “perfectly”, nor is it clear what you think perfect would be (bat 1.000?). What it needs to do is to get three runs per game in the first 6 innings, and then turn things over to the pen. This is a perfectly reasonable expectation for this lineup. That, along with a bit of injury luck keeping much-needed players (Sheets, Deutscherer, Ellis, Barton) out there most of the time, will make us competitive.

by paris7 on Feb 12, 2010 9:50 AM PST up reply actions  

Its better than you think

All OPS’d over .700 and a few have the potential to OPS over .800. That doesn’t sound great but for us thats an upgrade.

We will need continued development and perhaps some callups from AAA, but I think they proved in the second half of last year that a lineup like this could score runs.

by DrDoom on Feb 12, 2010 1:11 PM PST up reply actions  

Plus there is nobody named Crosby in it so that is a big plus

PREPAREDNESS_Because those goddamn zombies aren’t going to kill themselves

by adragon on Feb 18, 2010 9:44 AM PST up reply actions  

Sucks

is overstating it a bit. Theres no power, to be certain, but there is some talent there. We have yet to see if Kouzmanoff can hit here, if he dosen’t try to hit homeruns every at bat he’ll be much better off. Clearly the A’s need to be aggressive on the base paths and not wait for the 3 run dinger. With this team its just not gonna happen. I fear that last season everyone was waiting for Holliday and G to come up with the crushing blow, but as we all know that never happened. Once they got rid of Holliday and started running we began to see the true potential of the new A’s offensive strategy.

I'll have a sandwich and a draft(sic). - Bill King (RIP)

by BleedGreen on Feb 12, 2010 6:09 PM PST up reply actions  

The reason the A's started scoring more was because they started getting on base more

Not because they were running more.

"The A's get some action but they do not score..." -Glen Kuiper

"Anyone who calls themselves the Angels Angels should have to start over and ride the short bus." -timmeh from McCovey Chronicles

by Cheezombie on Feb 12, 2010 8:16 PM PST up reply actions  

Oh I don't know.....

but it seems to me that “running more” necessitates actually being on base. I could be wrong.

"You may glory in a team triumphant, but you fall in love with a team in defeat."--The Boys of Summer

by alox on Feb 12, 2010 8:34 PM PST up reply actions  

Right

So you agree that it was getting on base that allowed them to score more.

"The A's get some action but they do not score..." -Glen Kuiper

"Anyone who calls themselves the Angels Angels should have to start over and ride the short bus." -timmeh from McCovey Chronicles

by Cheezombie on Feb 12, 2010 9:16 PM PST up reply actions  

I dunno....

can’t really commit here. But I can see it being very helpful, assuming of course your goal is actually scoring runs.

"You may glory in a team triumphant, but you fall in love with a team in defeat."--The Boys of Summer

by alox on Feb 13, 2010 6:42 AM PST up reply actions  

Your top sig line says it best

they could get ON base, they just weren’t doing anything once they were ON base.

I'll have a sandwich and a draft(sic). - Bill King (RIP)

by BleedGreen on Feb 12, 2010 8:58 PM PST up reply actions  

well the thing is the A's DIDN'T get on base in the first half

that’s why they didn’t score runs.

"The A's get some action but they do not score..." -Glen Kuiper

"Anyone who calls themselves the Angels Angels should have to start over and ride the short bus." -timmeh from McCovey Chronicles

by Cheezombie on Feb 12, 2010 9:17 PM PST up reply actions  

I don't think it should/would matter

If Gio had a lot more seasoning in the bullpen. He’s not a reliever so he shouldn’t be treated like one. I feel that the 5th starter’s spot should be his to lose because he’s got the least to prove at AAA out of Cahill and Mazzaro.

"Their batters are patient to the point that it's annoying." -Ryan Franklin

by Helloooo 1st on Feb 12, 2010 8:41 AM PST reply actions   1 recs

+1

"Life is a horizontal fall" -Jean Cocteau

by King Richard on Feb 12, 2010 11:06 AM PST up reply actions  

+1.

I dont want to see Gio wasted as a long relief man if cahill has a great spring training.

What you fail to understand in your joyless myopia is that baseball is the key to life-- the Rosetta Stone, if you will. If you just understood baseball better all your other questions your, your... the, uh... the aliens, the conspiracies they would all, in their way be answered by the baseball gods.

by winchester5 on Feb 12, 2010 12:40 PM PST up reply actions  

..........

1. CARTER AND TAYLOR (drools)
2. Gio will be the 5th starter – I believe in Gio
3. We are lucky to have two hotties as our beat writers.

Is this the real life-
Is this just fantasy-
Caught in a landslide-
No escape from reality-

by Daniel777 on Feb 12, 2010 9:16 AM PST reply actions  

Er, Mychael Urban?

Always the summers are slipping away.
Find me a way for making it stay.

by danmerqury on Feb 12, 2010 10:41 AM PST up reply actions  

Mychael is a

Krukow Koolaid drinking KNBR fanboi now…..

"Twenty minutes," says Jack Sr. "Thank god for Billy Beane."

"Any fan that wants us to do that is going to be disappointed because that just isn’t us." - Wolff

by ST on Feb 12, 2010 2:32 PM PST up reply actions  

ahem...cough cough cough

and your favorite Friday blogger? Whatevs.

"Bobby Crosby at third is a bit of an adventure. And not like, here’s some hidden treasure, what fun. More like, gah! poison ants!" --alea iacta est

by baseballgirl on Feb 12, 2010 11:00 AM PST up reply actions  

I assumed that you were the other "beat writer"

Although Friday blogger would be more accurate. It’s not just your excellent posts that keep us coming back for more, after all.

by el generico on Feb 12, 2010 11:14 AM PST up reply actions  

Friday Blogger =

Celebrating my 5 year ANniversary... (SPWC/K56/ThePilotsDaredMeToDie/Gaijin_Suketto)

by Gaijin_Suketto on Feb 12, 2010 11:17 AM PST up reply actions  

I love you a little right now

[cue creepy man-crush music]

PREPAREDNESS_Because those goddamn zombies aren’t going to kill themselves

by adragon on Feb 18, 2010 9:49 AM PST up reply actions  

I assume Susan S. :-)

"Bobby Crosby at third is a bit of an adventure. And not like, here’s some hidden treasure, what fun. More like, gah! poison ants!" --alea iacta est

by baseballgirl on Feb 12, 2010 11:20 AM PST up reply actions  

OK you're hot too

:)

Is this the real life-
Is this just fantasy-
Caught in a landslide-
No escape from reality-

by Daniel777 on Feb 12, 2010 10:37 PM PST up reply actions  

"hotties"?

I’m just glad to have two quality beat reporters covering the team. They could look like Ray Ratto and Lowell Cohn’s “good” twin brothers for all I care!

Celebrating my 5 year ANniversary... (SPWC/K56/ThePilotsDaredMeToDie/Gaijin_Suketto)

by Gaijin_Suketto on Feb 12, 2010 11:15 AM PST up reply actions   1 recs

maybe they were talking about Slusser?

Saw her on Chronicle Live yesterday and she isn’t hard on the eyes.

You have to include smiley faces - Poppy
;- ) :- ) :-O : -> : -] : -}

by micdog2001 on Feb 12, 2010 11:21 AM PST up reply actions  

Slusser is genuienly attractive

but Jane is HOT. Is Jane Lee even a real name? Could it be possible that she could be attractive and not have a name than ends with the letter ‘i’?

I'll have a sandwich and a draft(sic). - Bill King (RIP)

by BleedGreen on Feb 12, 2010 6:11 PM PST up reply actions  

Um, no.

-Cindi

I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal

by Nico on Feb 12, 2010 6:50 PM PST up reply actions  

Um, no.

-Christy

Oh, damn.

"Bobby Crosby at third is a bit of an adventure. And not like, here’s some hidden treasure, what fun. More like, gah! poison ants!" --alea iacta est

by baseballgirl on Feb 12, 2010 7:06 PM PST up reply actions  

+1 to # 2 especially.

What you fail to understand in your joyless myopia is that baseball is the key to life-- the Rosetta Stone, if you will. If you just understood baseball better all your other questions your, your... the, uh... the aliens, the conspiracies they would all, in their way be answered by the baseball gods.

by winchester5 on Feb 12, 2010 12:41 PM PST up reply actions  

In answer to your question.....

from a person actually going to ST for an extended period, I clearly want to see more of Chris Carter, and get my first real look at Taylor. I am also feending like a drug addict to see Inoa. I cannot wait!

"I mean, come on, man. I'm a vet. Don't talk to me like that. If they do, I'll just smile." Nnamdi Asomugha

by s0sNe@kYbUtY? on Feb 12, 2010 9:27 AM PST reply actions  

ST is like coca!!

One taste is never enough……

"I mean, come on, man. I'm a vet. Don't talk to me like that. If they do, I'll just smile." Nnamdi Asomugha

by s0sNe@kYbUtY? on Feb 12, 2010 9:28 AM PST up reply actions  

And no Im not a coke head....

its just a metaphor, though I dabbled in college, like and idiot, which I totally regret, like a lot of dumb things people do in college.

"I mean, come on, man. I'm a vet. Don't talk to me like that. If they do, I'll just smile." Nnamdi Asomugha

by s0sNe@kYbUtY? on Feb 12, 2010 10:53 AM PST up reply actions  

sure.....

If it floats your boat……

But these days my excitement around the drug comes when my cousin sends me links to photos and news stories about border patrol busts he, or his team, have been a part of…….

http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/2009/jul/06/federal-authorities-announced-monday-seizure/?metro&zIndex=127755

"I mean, come on, man. I'm a vet. Don't talk to me like that. If they do, I'll just smile." Nnamdi Asomugha

by s0sNe@kYbUtY? on Feb 12, 2010 11:29 AM PST up reply actions  

that dog looks quite interested in the stuff

Don’t suppose he’s gotten a bit to attached to sniffing for that stuff.

by MobiusKlein on Feb 12, 2010 11:36 AM PST up reply actions  

lol....

he does doesn’t he!

"I mean, come on, man. I'm a vet. Don't talk to me like that. If they do, I'll just smile." Nnamdi Asomugha

by s0sNe@kYbUtY? on Feb 12, 2010 11:51 AM PST up reply actions  

Neither......

This is one of my cousins’ team members, and that is one of the most successful drug dogs in the history of the US, so I am told. For those that don’t know, the dogs themselves are revered members of the border patrol, and given all the respect of regular officers, much like war dogs in the Army and Marines. When one dies in the line of duty, all respect and honors are bestowed upon them as if they were human beings. Its really very touching, and the bond created between officer and dog is incredible.

"I mean, come on, man. I'm a vet. Don't talk to me like that. If they do, I'll just smile." Nnamdi Asomugha

by s0sNe@kYbUtY? on Feb 12, 2010 11:50 AM PST up reply actions  

LMU BABY!!! Go Lions!!

"I mean, come on, man. I'm a vet. Don't talk to me like that. If they do, I'll just smile." Nnamdi Asomugha

by s0sNe@kYbUtY? on Feb 13, 2010 12:49 PM PST up reply actions  

Isn't that a school for rich kids?

"The ego, the super-ego, and the Ed" - danmerqury

by Future Ed on Feb 13, 2010 4:45 PM PST up reply actions  

Its very expensive.....

I was able to go thanks to massive student loans, grants, and scholarships. I’ll be paying off loans for a long time. However, I was able to take summer classes at SMC to cover some core requirements, and as a community college, that saved me a TON of money over 3.5 years. I was able to graduate undergrad saving almost 2 semesters of tuition. I also had a job on campus all the years I was there. Serving kids in the Lions Den aka the cafeteria.

For Grad school I was able to score more grants, two small scholarships (not much but everything helps) and a highly coveted Grad assistantship working 20 hours a week making pretty decent money.

Nevertheless, I always had to work, and even with the grants and scholarships, my loans were substantial, though zero interest until after 6 months following my completion of grad school.

I never really felt like I belonged with most of those kids though. I drive a 95 Corolla on its last legs and had to work to pay much of my way, while all these kids drove BMWs, and Lexus on easy street.

"I mean, come on, man. I'm a vet. Don't talk to me like that. If they do, I'll just smile." Nnamdi Asomugha

by s0sNe@kYbUtY? on Feb 14, 2010 10:13 AM PST up reply actions  

I thought...

I taste more like day old popcorn :X

"Twenty minutes," says Jack Sr. "Thank god for Billy Beane."

"Any fan that wants us to do that is going to be disappointed because that just isn’t us." - Wolff

by ST on Feb 12, 2010 2:33 PM PST up reply actions  

wherever in the world Diego is.

"The ego, the super-ego, and the Ed" - danmerqury

by Future Ed on Feb 12, 2010 9:42 AM PST up reply actions  

QOTM (complicated division)

Celebrating my 5 year ANniversary... (SPWC/K56/ThePilotsDaredMeToDie/Gaijin_Suketto)

by Gaijin_Suketto on Feb 12, 2010 11:18 AM PST up reply actions  

Gio makes the team because was better than Cahill last year

Not because he has relief appearances.

"The ego, the super-ego, and the Ed" - danmerqury

by Future Ed on Feb 12, 2010 9:40 AM PST reply actions  

I agree....

Plus, there are those that believe, including me, that he has the best “pure stuff” on the staff. If he can control those emotions and keep a level head, he and the term “Ace” have a real future together.

"I mean, come on, man. I'm a vet. Don't talk to me like that. If they do, I'll just smile." Nnamdi Asomugha

by s0sNe@kYbUtY? on Feb 12, 2010 10:35 AM PST up reply actions  

Just don't let him play Minnesota

"Bobby Crosby at third is a bit of an adventure. And not like, here’s some hidden treasure, what fun. More like, gah! poison ants!" --alea iacta est

by baseballgirl on Feb 12, 2010 10:37 AM PST up reply actions  

Who won that game again?

"The ego, the super-ego, and the Ed" - danmerqury

by Future Ed on Feb 12, 2010 10:54 AM PST up reply actions  

Haha we one ONE of them

Wasn’t there two?

"Bobby Crosby at third is a bit of an adventure. And not like, here’s some hidden treasure, what fun. More like, gah! poison ants!" --alea iacta est

by baseballgirl on Feb 12, 2010 11:01 AM PST up reply actions  

And I'm going to venture to say that giving up 11 runs

is not a plan we want to follow to win many ;-)

"Bobby Crosby at third is a bit of an adventure. And not like, here’s some hidden treasure, what fun. More like, gah! poison ants!" --alea iacta est

by baseballgirl on Feb 12, 2010 11:02 AM PST up reply actions  

no, no, no

you don’t understand the plan. Giving up 11=win. giving up only 7 = loss.

"The ego, the super-ego, and the Ed" - danmerqury

by Future Ed on Feb 12, 2010 11:23 AM PST up reply actions  

I see...their poor ERA's.

"Bobby Crosby at third is a bit of an adventure. And not like, here’s some hidden treasure, what fun. More like, gah! poison ants!" --alea iacta est

by baseballgirl on Feb 12, 2010 11:43 AM PST up reply actions  

Ouch!!

"I mean, come on, man. I'm a vet. Don't talk to me like that. If they do, I'll just smile." Nnamdi Asomugha

by s0sNe@kYbUtY? on Feb 12, 2010 8:15 PM PST up reply actions  

If I remember correctly.....

didn’t he, Gio, go on a real nice run of starts after that game? Maybe we should let him start against the Twins, get shelled, and then be great from that point on like last year. Just a thought, though maybe not a very good one.

"I mean, come on, man. I'm a vet. Don't talk to me like that. If they do, I'll just smile." Nnamdi Asomugha

by s0sNe@kYbUtY? on Feb 12, 2010 8:17 PM PST up reply actions  

I think he's the #5 starter

And if he’s NOT, I still want him starting, not in the bullpen

"Bobby Crosby at third is a bit of an adventure. And not like, here’s some hidden treasure, what fun. More like, gah! poison ants!" --alea iacta est

by baseballgirl on Feb 12, 2010 10:37 AM PST up reply actions  

Again, +1.

Not only do I think that using starters with high-potential futures in the bullpen is a waste of development time, but for someone like Gio who seems to need all the mental-acclimation time to big league starting pitching that he can get, I think it would be ruinous.

"Life is a horizontal fall" -Jean Cocteau

by King Richard on Feb 12, 2010 11:09 AM PST up reply actions  

I agree......

Does the same thing hold true for Gio that holds true for Cahil? Meaning, can the A’s get an extra year of service time by putting him in Sac next season? Or is that just Cahil?

"I mean, come on, man. I'm a vet. Don't talk to me like that. If they do, I'll just smile." Nnamdi Asomugha

by s0sNe@kYbUtY? on Feb 12, 2010 8:20 PM PST up reply actions  

That goes for both of them IIRC

Hes not accumulating MLB service time since he’s not on an MLB roster or on an MLB DL.

"I generally avoid temptation unless I can't resist it" ~ Mae West

by Blicks on Feb 13, 2010 6:51 AM PST up reply actions  

TY

Then either way this should work out for the A’s. The guy that doesn’t make it will be pretty pissed, but thats the way the cookie crumbles I guess, and the A’s fans wont be cheated out of a year of watching either one. Awesome!

"I mean, come on, man. I'm a vet. Don't talk to me like that. If they do, I'll just smile." Nnamdi Asomugha

by s0sNe@kYbUtY? on Feb 13, 2010 12:51 PM PST up reply actions  

I doubt they'll be pissed

Cahill’s 21 and pitched poorly; Gio was very up and down. Neither should feel any “right” to make the rotation out of spring training.

I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal

by Nico on Feb 13, 2010 3:17 PM PST up reply actions  

What happened to site layout?

stories got shoved way to bottom, and no side bar?
Did Nico get his fingers into the CSS again?

by MobiusKlein on Feb 12, 2010 9:40 AM PST reply actions  

glad i'm not the only one experiencing this

i thought it was my lack of strong coffee this morning that i was seeing things bizarrely

by OakA'sHoney on Feb 12, 2010 9:46 AM PST up reply actions  

We got a free coffee treat at work in honor of V-day today

(though I wish I had a flask of Bailey’s to add to it after reading that lineup)

"Do I talk to myself? No, I just remind myself of what I'm trying to do. You know, I never answer myself so how can I be talking to myself?" - Rickey

by cuppingmaster on Feb 12, 2010 10:15 AM PST up reply actions  

Imagine posting that lineup

So many tears.

"Bobby Crosby at third is a bit of an adventure. And not like, here’s some hidden treasure, what fun. More like, gah! poison ants!" --alea iacta est

by baseballgirl on Feb 12, 2010 10:16 AM PST up reply actions  

Site looks beta now

but why Suzuki in 3rd spot?
Seems a catcher would not be well suited to batting 3rd – they would more often be on base or just batted when the inning ends.

by MobiusKlein on Feb 12, 2010 10:26 AM PST up reply actions  

I would have had him lower, also

I guess he’s our best hitter for average? Hahaha…sob.

"Bobby Crosby at third is a bit of an adventure. And not like, here’s some hidden treasure, what fun. More like, gah! poison ants!" --alea iacta est

by baseballgirl on Feb 12, 2010 10:35 AM PST up reply actions  

I suspect we won't know the best average hitter till later

At this point, even before preseason, we can only make guesses at who it will be.

Rajai was doing well at the end of last year, but we don’t want him in the 3rd slot.

by MobiusKlein on Feb 12, 2010 10:41 AM PST up reply actions  

between Suzuki and Sweeney

Suzuki also has more power. (another groan).

So, you think between the M’s and the A’s, we’ll hit 1000 runs combined?

"Do I talk to myself? No, I just remind myself of what I'm trying to do. You know, I never answer myself so how can I be talking to myself?" - Rickey

by cuppingmaster on Feb 12, 2010 10:42 AM PST up reply actions  

On the bright side

no Giambi & (damn, forgetting his name, ah, Nomah) sucking up ABs.

Also I remember Holiday having a dreadful start last year, so I count myself as optimistic that the A’s will do better this year.

by MobiusKlein on Feb 12, 2010 10:46 AM PST up reply actions  

Question:

does anyone WANT to post their comment to their facebook wall? that seems odd?

"The ego, the super-ego, and the Ed" - danmerqury

by Future Ed on Feb 12, 2010 9:40 AM PST reply actions  

Wait until Friday night drinking threads

Our Facebook friends will leave us.

"Bobby Crosby at third is a bit of an adventure. And not like, here’s some hidden treasure, what fun. More like, gah! poison ants!" --alea iacta est

by baseballgirl on Feb 12, 2010 10:15 AM PST up reply actions  

Good Idea

If that’s the case, I might even tune into the Olympics tonight.

The Ultimate Opportunist

by Rated-R Superstar on Feb 12, 2010 10:30 AM PST up reply actions  

Hey...I know how old you are!

"Bobby Crosby at third is a bit of an adventure. And not like, here’s some hidden treasure, what fun. More like, gah! poison ants!" --alea iacta est

by baseballgirl on Feb 12, 2010 10:35 AM PST up reply actions  

Oops

By “drink,” I thought you guys meant Pepsi.

The Ultimate Opportunist

by Rated-R Superstar on Feb 12, 2010 10:42 AM PST up reply actions  

I'll be watching...how about I take a vote on an open thread: Olympics Edition

We’ll “practice” for the upcoming season. I can set up a game thread, you all can comment!

"Bobby Crosby at third is a bit of an adventure. And not like, here’s some hidden treasure, what fun. More like, gah! poison ants!" --alea iacta est

by baseballgirl on Feb 12, 2010 10:36 AM PST up reply actions  

Cool

I like dress rehearsals!

The Ultimate Opportunist

by Rated-R Superstar on Feb 12, 2010 10:42 AM PST up reply actions  

I'll join

if I’m not too drunk to remember to join!

by stormtown on Feb 12, 2010 11:19 AM PST up reply actions  

I might even be with you ladies...

I don’t have band practice tonight, for the first Friday, in, like, a long long time…

Of course, that is, if I’m not banned by tonight. Then again, the day is young!

Celebrating my 5 year ANniversary... (SPWC/K56/ThePilotsDaredMeToDie/Gaijin_Suketto)

by Gaijin_Suketto on Feb 12, 2010 11:20 AM PST up reply actions  

Are there actual events tonight, or just opening ceremonies?

I could be watching now, I suppose, but the kids are lowering their IQs with Disney Channel at the moment.

"And Julio Franco is batting right-handed!" -- Wayne Hagin, A's radio play-by-play, mid-80s

by Nick on Feb 12, 2010 5:21 PM PST up reply actions  

Disney Channel

I remember watching that when I was about 12, which was still when Bush 43 was in office so it wasn’t long ago. Some shows were pretty good and some of their movies were epic.

The Ultimate Opportunist

by Rated-R Superstar on Feb 12, 2010 5:38 PM PST up reply actions  

Just opening ceremonies.

Lots of flags. The kids could play “Guess that flag” game.

"Bobby Crosby at third is a bit of an adventure. And not like, here’s some hidden treasure, what fun. More like, gah! poison ants!" --alea iacta est

by baseballgirl on Feb 12, 2010 7:07 PM PST up reply actions  

I do that every time I'm awarded a CGV

I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal

by Nico on Feb 12, 2010 7:19 PM PST up reply actions  

LOL!

Celebrating my 5 year ANniversary... (SPWC/K56/ThePilotsDaredMeToDie/Gaijin_Suketto)

by Gaijin_Suketto on Feb 14, 2010 6:40 PM PST up reply actions  

it has to be night time?

"The ego, the super-ego, and the Ed" - danmerqury

by Future Ed on Feb 12, 2010 10:28 AM PST up reply actions  

they offer that on other sites, too

sfgate.com, for one.

"Do I talk to myself? No, I just remind myself of what I'm trying to do. You know, I never answer myself so how can I be talking to myself?" - Rickey

by cuppingmaster on Feb 12, 2010 10:43 AM PST up reply actions  

I think I want to keep AN and Facebook seperate

two very different worlds for me.

You have to include smiley faces - Poppy
;- ) :- ) :-O : -> : -] : -}

by micdog2001 on Feb 12, 2010 10:52 AM PST up reply actions  

That sounds like a good and mature way to look at it.

I only have a FB account so my sweetie can use it to help her in that insidious game she plays… you run a farm, then you cook the food at the restaurant… or maybe that’s two different games.. I don’t know…

Celebrating my 5 year ANniversary... (SPWC/K56/ThePilotsDaredMeToDie/Gaijin_Suketto)

by Gaijin_Suketto on Feb 12, 2010 11:21 AM PST up reply actions  

I have a lot of church friends on facebook

I don’t want to expose them to some of the flithy people on AN cough LB cough ;-)

You have to include smiley faces - Poppy
;- ) :- ) :-O : -> : -] : -}

by micdog2001 on Feb 12, 2010 11:24 AM PST up reply actions  

My Facebook looks like an ad for tolerance

Church friends, AN friends, work friends, people I meet on the street…

It’s not unusual for me to post an update, and have comments ranging from “* * * *” to “God Bless”, it’s actually pretty funny.

"Bobby Crosby at third is a bit of an adventure. And not like, here’s some hidden treasure, what fun. More like, gah! poison ants!" --alea iacta est

by baseballgirl on Feb 12, 2010 11:43 AM PST up reply actions  

To me

online is a different life from the real. So FB and AN might as well go hand in hand.

I'll have a sandwich and a draft(sic). - Bill King (RIP)

by BleedGreen on Feb 12, 2010 6:19 PM PST up reply actions  

I would switch Cust and Sweeney

better contact in the 4 spot (I read this somewhere and agreed with it), and even better if we have a healthy Chavez, sit Cust and DH C.

If we run like we did the last half of last year, I think this lineup is servicable. Take into consideration the defense and pitching quality and I think we could be competative. the key is for our offense to run.

When its time to shoot, shoot... don't talk

by Charlie O the Mule on Feb 12, 2010 9:54 AM PST reply actions  

I like Cust in the cleanup spot

Mostly because I like better hitters in optimum spots. Also, I stand by my assertion that Chavez will be in the Opening Day lineup. Therefore my prediction stands as:

Raj CF
Crisp LF
Cust DH
Kouzmanoff 3b
Chavez 1b
Kurt C
Sweeney RF
Ellis 2b
Pennington SS

"Loyal? I'm the most loyal player money can buy." - Don Sutton

by vignette17 on Feb 12, 2010 10:44 AM PST up reply actions  

Sweeney

Against right-handed pitchers, he should be hitting before Kouzmanoff.

The Ultimate Opportunist

by Rated-R Superstar on Feb 12, 2010 10:53 AM PST up reply actions  

Coco shouldn't be hitting #2

this ties in with the myth that speed is important in the two-hole, when really you need a guy to get on base in front of the heart of the order…..Coco’s career .331 OBP doesn’t cut it.

by scatterbrian on Feb 12, 2010 2:53 PM PST up reply actions  

If Crisp is a better option at #2 than both Sweeney and Barton

the lineup is going to suck this season.

"And Julio Franco is batting right-handed!" -- Wayne Hagin, A's radio play-by-play, mid-80s

by Nick on Feb 12, 2010 5:23 PM PST up reply actions  

Just switch Crisp and Barton, and Jane Lee's lineup is fine

As is, the lineup is not fine.

I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal

by Nico on Feb 12, 2010 6:54 PM PST up reply actions  

I was thinking Sweeney

and have Crisp come up in front of some singles hitters. Then let him run.

by scatterbrian on Feb 12, 2010 9:17 PM PST up reply actions  

I'd just rather have Sweeney and Barton hit a lot more often than Crisp

I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal

by Nico on Feb 12, 2010 9:30 PM PST up reply actions  

I don't mind her lineup order

but I would probably flip Coco and Sweeney.

Sweeney is a better hitter IMO, in the last 2 years he has a higher AVG and OBP than Crisp. Sweeney also has a better Contact% and LD% which sounds good for a #2 hitter, at least to me. On the plus side for Crisp, he has increased his BB% the last few years and it was a lot higher than Sweeney’s last year (%13.5>%7.5) SSS though, only 49 games for Crisp, so it would it probably be closer to the %8.5 in 07/08. Crisp is also a better basestealer and faster so I’m sure that’s why he is put there but what good is speed if you aren’t getting on base to use it?

You have to include smiley faces - Poppy
;- ) :- ) :-O : -> : -] : -}

by micdog2001 on Feb 12, 2010 11:20 AM PST reply actions  

Carter and Taylor

I voted with the vast majority in being most excited by Carter, Taylor et al.

Along those lines therefore, I just can’t get excited about who will be batting where in the lineup in April. What I care about is what that lineup will look like in June. Same goes with the pitching rotation. There are several fragile arms in the projected top four, so while Gio and Trevor may be fighting it out in the spring for the 5th slot, I think they are likely both to be in the rotation by June (and let’s hope they are the only two of our AAA pitchers that are pitching for the A’s by then!).

chronic

by Since1972 on Feb 12, 2010 12:50 PM PST reply actions  

I voted Chavez

I am excited to see Cater (who was seen by us last year) and Taylor. But I figure this it it for Chavez, so he gets my vote.

"The ego, the super-ego, and the Ed" - danmerqury

by Future Ed on Feb 12, 2010 12:54 PM PST up reply actions  

If Danny Cater can make a comeback, there's hope for Eric Chavez after all.

I know. He meant Carter.

Root for the Giants? Not even if they're playing al-Qaeda!

by Monday Fan on Feb 12, 2010 1:09 PM PST up reply actions  

One other thing for baseballgirl!

Isn’t it time for one of the managers to update, at least in regard to the roster, the ANcillary Terms? I mean, really, only one player, MaEl, is left on that roster (and good riddance to most of the rest!). Perhaps it should be a mission this spring to codify THIS team, since there are a lot of guys here who look to be around on the A’s for some years to come. I’m just saying…

chronic

by Since1972 on Feb 12, 2010 12:58 PM PST reply actions  

I'll be in that one...

on pages 79, 238, 1040, and of course, the nudie centerfold.

Celebrating my 5 year ANniversary... (SPWC/K56/ThePilotsDaredMeToDie/Gaijin_Suketto)

by Gaijin_Suketto on Feb 12, 2010 2:32 PM PST up reply actions  

The ANcillary Terms update is now ready (with stats explained, etc.)

I just have to format it and post it. If not tonight, then over the weekend!

I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal

by Nico on Feb 12, 2010 6:56 PM PST up reply actions  

Hearts!

"Bobby Crosby at third is a bit of an adventure. And not like, here’s some hidden treasure, what fun. More like, gah! poison ants!" --alea iacta est

by baseballgirl on Feb 12, 2010 7:08 PM PST up reply actions  

Oh, you should see the nudie centerfold in the new ANcillary Terms.

Let me give you a taste:

Always the summers are slipping away.
Find me a way for making it stay.

by danmerqury on Feb 12, 2010 8:04 PM PST up reply actions  

TURKEYS GONE WILD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal

by Nico on Feb 12, 2010 8:41 PM PST up reply actions  

Brilliant!!!!!!

“The Human Tongue!”

Zeigler to Geren…."A-Rod? He’s my bitch." -alox

by mrod on Feb 12, 2010 9:57 PM PST up reply actions  

I heard one of the turkeys was underage

Not funny,..too soon.

"Never have a motto, that's what I always say" - Me

by padmadfan on Feb 13, 2010 1:02 AM PST up reply actions  

I thought we did...

I guess dan’s post didn’t switch them out. Thanks, I’ll take a look at it!

"Bobby Crosby at third is a bit of an adventure. And not like, here’s some hidden treasure, what fun. More like, gah! poison ants!" --alea iacta est

by baseballgirl on Feb 12, 2010 1:05 PM PST up reply actions  

It's done, but I don't think it's been put up yet.

Always the summers are slipping away.
Find me a way for making it stay.

by danmerqury on Feb 12, 2010 1:31 PM PST up reply actions  

See just above

It’s 99% of the way there.

I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal

by Nico on Feb 12, 2010 6:56 PM PST up reply actions  

Turns out there's a "bug" stopping AN from accepting the edits

Our finest people are busily working on the problem. (Which actually means that Leopold Bloom is slowly picking his nose.)

I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal

by Nico on Feb 12, 2010 8:42 PM PST up reply actions  

i'm guessing i'm the only one who voted "other"

to show i’m most excited about seeing if travis grew his hair back

by OakA'sHoney on Feb 12, 2010 1:11 PM PST reply actions  

Don't like the lineup at all.

Who did Coco Crisp stab to convince them he’s good at hitting? He hasn’t been good at hitting since 2005, and there’s no reason to think he’s going to suddenly get better at it. Also, he should be in left, not Rajai. Crisp has always been an awesome left fielder, but only a pretty good center fielder.

Here’s my lineup:

Davis CF
Cust DH
Sweeney RF
Kouzmanoff 3B
Suzuki C
Ellis 2B
Barton 1B (hopefully, he moves up due to performance)
Crisp LF
Pennington SS

You could switch Barton and Ellis to break up the righty bats, or really put Zook/Ellis/Barton in whatever order you like.

"PECOTA can pretty much kiss my ass."-Nico

by jeepers on Feb 12, 2010 1:33 PM PST reply actions  

What am I most excited about???

FREAKIN BASEBALL!!! and every little thing that has to do with it.

by Dub_TC on Feb 12, 2010 2:08 PM PST reply actions  

Gio for 5th starter

Chavvy will be our opening day 3rd baseman.
Coco pebbles will bat 8th
Barton will slip a disc whil wading in the kiddie pool.

That is all….

go Stephen Curry in All Star Weekend Expo!!!!!!!!

Zeigler to Geren…."A-Rod? He’s my bitch." -alox

by mrod on Feb 12, 2010 2:16 PM PST reply actions  

Chavez is DONE

as a major league 3rd baseman.

I’m sorry to break it to ya, but his string of Gold Gloves will have to be repeated at another position.

I'll have a sandwich and a draft(sic). - Bill King (RIP)

by BleedGreen on Feb 12, 2010 6:18 PM PST up reply actions  

What?

“The Reverse Cowboy?”

Zeigler to Geren…."A-Rod? He’s my bitch." -alox

by mrod on Feb 12, 2010 9:58 PM PST up reply actions  

From Jane's blog..
</blA’S 2010 TV SCHEDULE RELEASED
On Wednesday night, Comcast SportsNet California announced it will be showing 145 regular-season games (plus two exhibition contests), with all the regular-season games available in high-definition for the first time. Big news, though, came in the form of the station’s announcement that former A’s third baseman Carney Lansford is joining the broadcast team as a pregame/postgame analysis. Looks like the former Giants hitting coach has found his way back to the other side of the Bay. He’ll join Mindi Bach, Shooty Babitt and Matt Morrison on camera, with familiar face Mychael Urban making multiple contributions as well.ockquote>

Welcome back Captain Carney! :)

"Twenty minutes," says Jack Sr. "Thank god for Billy Beane."

"Any fan that wants us to do that is going to be disappointed because that just isn’t us." - Wolff

by ST on Feb 12, 2010 2:47 PM PST reply actions  

I LOVE that Carney is coming back!!!! YAY!

"Bobby Crosby at third is a bit of an adventure. And not like, here’s some hidden treasure, what fun. More like, gah! poison ants!" --alea iacta est

by baseballgirl on Feb 12, 2010 2:50 PM PST up reply actions  

nice!!!!!!!!

Zeigler to Geren…."A-Rod? He’s my bitch." -alox

by mrod on Feb 12, 2010 2:54 PM PST up reply actions  

Do they still make ordinary television?

I thought everything revolved around 1080P HD

"Whether you think you can, or you think you can't, either way, YOU'RE RIGHT !"

by Eastbayjim on Feb 12, 2010 3:21 PM PST up reply actions  

Money...

Nobody on “free to air” TV paid for the rights. KICU 36 used to, but stopped a few years ago.

"I was right and you were wrong." - Ray Fosse

by kbtoyz on Feb 12, 2010 4:26 PM PST up reply actions  

excellent.

alaska A residing in northern Idaho.

by ak_A on Feb 12, 2010 3:54 PM PST up reply actions  

For all you Friday Night game threaders...

…I have one for the Winter Olympics set to post at 5 tonight. But tragic news for the opening ceremonies; an athlete has just died on the luge track.

"Bobby Crosby at third is a bit of an adventure. And not like, here’s some hidden treasure, what fun. More like, gah! poison ants!" --alea iacta est

by baseballgirl on Feb 12, 2010 2:52 PM PST reply actions  

I saw that

very sad…..

Zeigler to Geren…."A-Rod? He’s my bitch." -alox

by mrod on Feb 12, 2010 2:54 PM PST up reply actions  

It's really pretty embarrassing that a hitter as bad as Rajai Davis is being more or less handed the leadoff spot without competition

Shawn Spencer: "I’m receiving a transmission from your husband. Really more of a voicemail, if I'm being honest. A status update. Perhaps a twitter."
Burton Guster: "I believe it’s called a tweet."
Shawn Spencer: "There’s no way I’m saying that."

by PaulThomas on Feb 12, 2010 3:20 PM PST reply actions  

That's not the worst of it.

Because he wouldn’t be a terrible choice at leadoff if we somehow got August and September ’09 Rajai back this season. But if I see Coco Crisp once in the second spot…

Always the summers are slipping away.
Find me a way for making it stay.

by danmerqury on Feb 12, 2010 3:23 PM PST up reply actions  

Davis

He tore it up last year with a .360 on-base percentage and it was .382 during the last three months. Small sample sizes, I understand, but I think he’s earned that spot atop the lineup unless he starts to suck. Who else would you put up there?

The Ultimate Opportunist

by Rated-R Superstar on Feb 12, 2010 3:26 PM PST up reply actions  

^

What he said.

"Bobby Crosby at third is a bit of an adventure. And not like, here’s some hidden treasure, what fun. More like, gah! poison ants!" --alea iacta est

by baseballgirl on Feb 12, 2010 3:48 PM PST up reply actions  

I find it unlikely he maintains a .366 BABIP

"The A's get some action but they do not score..." -Glen Kuiper

"Anyone who calls themselves the Angels Angels should have to start over and ride the short bus." -timmeh from McCovey Chronicles

by Cheezombie on Feb 12, 2010 5:35 PM PST up reply actions  

Okay

If he doesn’t maintain that, you can remove him. Until then, he hasn’t done anything that warrants him being replaced.

The Ultimate Opportunist

by Rated-R Superstar on Feb 12, 2010 5:39 PM PST up reply actions  

i have to agree with this.

yes, his speed is crazy good.

unless his BABIP stays in that lovely .366 range, I’d think he wouldn’t be the right person for the leadoff spot.

Sweeney leading off against RHP would be smart.

"I generally avoid temptation unless I can't resist it" ~ Mae West

by Blicks on Feb 13, 2010 6:53 AM PST up reply actions  

By the way, I know Susan Slusser stops by AN every once in a while.

And Mychael Urban gave us an interview or three. Has Jane Lee wandered over here yet?

Always the summers are slipping away.
Find me a way for making it stay.

by danmerqury on Feb 12, 2010 3:25 PM PST reply actions  

I Tweeted her today to let her know we were talking about her

I haven’t seen her post, but she does know about us!

"Bobby Crosby at third is a bit of an adventure. And not like, here’s some hidden treasure, what fun. More like, gah! poison ants!" --alea iacta est

by baseballgirl on Feb 12, 2010 3:49 PM PST up reply actions  

Is that why she's staying away?

"You may glory in a team triumphant, but you fall in love with a team in defeat."--The Boys of Summer

by alox on Feb 12, 2010 4:01 PM PST up reply actions  

Probably.

"Bobby Crosby at third is a bit of an adventure. And not like, here’s some hidden treasure, what fun. More like, gah! poison ants!" --alea iacta est

by baseballgirl on Feb 12, 2010 4:15 PM PST up reply actions  

Heh, don't blame her there.

Always the summers are slipping away.
Find me a way for making it stay.

by danmerqury on Feb 12, 2010 4:31 PM PST up reply actions  

worst verb EVER.

"The ego, the super-ego, and the Ed" - danmerqury

by Future Ed on Feb 12, 2010 6:50 PM PST up reply actions  

This comment reminds me of

Barry Schminski, an old eccentric high school english teacher of mine. Poor sap. He was not cut out to teach high school in the late seventies or early eighties. We ate him alive. I think we actually killed him a little bit each day, but the final straw being a kid named Dennis who flicked matches off a matchbook striker and on to his desk while he was engaged in some rant at the chalkboard. Amazingly enough, the entire class kept silent as a three alarm blaze engulfed his desk before he could come to his senses enough to turn around and see exactly why we were so damn quiet.

Good times.

"You may glory in a team triumphant, but you fall in love with a team in defeat."--The Boys of Summer

by alox on Feb 12, 2010 8:41 PM PST up reply actions  

As a teacher

Reading this I didn’t know whether to laugh or cry.

chronic

by Since1972 on Feb 13, 2010 4:29 AM PST up reply actions  

Eh, there was karmic justice

involved too. We also had a certifiable lunatic by the name of Mr. Vejada who taught gym class. He terrified us. He was a Vietnam vet and prone to sudden unexplained bursts of rage and violence. He wasn’t above cuffing us around on occasion, and he wasn’t all that particular about identifying the actual miscreant before he went hands on. But we all knew we had it coming. Ratting him out to the school administration was not considered a viable option as he would most certainly extract a very high price from the offending student.

"You may glory in a team triumphant, but you fall in love with a team in defeat."--The Boys of Summer

by alox on Feb 13, 2010 6:53 AM PST up reply actions  

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