Athletics Net Gross; New "37 Man Outfield" Strategy Poised to Produce Elusive 162-Win Season
by emperor nobody on Feb 1, 2010 5:56 AM PST
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Print(Update by baseballgirl: To add to all of this, Buster Olney just tweeted this breaking news:)
Reds and Oakland completed trade of Aaron Miles and PTBNL or cash for Willy Taveras and Adam Rosales...
emperor's afternoon update: Willy Taveras and Dana Eveland have been DFA'd, with Taveras lasting even less time with the A's than the immortal Ryan "Long Live" Langerhans...yes, folks, Eveland is outta here!!
And as if all this weren't enough AP-wire-shattering news, the team also claimed Minnesota Twins' IF farmhand Steve Tolleson off waivers... Jane Lee tweets that to make room for Tolleson, Gregorio Petit has also been designated for assignment
Not that there's anything wrong with that.
The gif that keeps on giving.
So the Gabe Gross net is 1 year, 750 thousand big ones plus incentives, plus presumably a shoehorn to fit into the A's crowded outfield landscape... whatever it is, I'm sure we'd all agree that it's better than Eric "After the Fire, the Fire Still" Byrnes here, whom we get to see 19 times in 2010 with our saucy pals the (still favored by the sane money to win the West?) Marinaras. How many of those contests will break our way thanks to one of everyone's favorite future idiotic sportscaster's inimitably imbecilic gaffes? Many, I hope; a few, I'd conservatively imagine.
It's so funny, every time Beane makes a sort of lateral move like this, you can't help but conspiratorially speculate that he has some nefarious parlay underway, and this is the one where he swings that Kara Tsuboi-plus-Stomper-plus-Larry-Davis-and-a-case-of-Grape-Italian-Ices for Yunel Escobar trade we've all been waiting for... surely he will have Atlanta paying for 2/3 of Stomper's contract (and 3/4 of Larry's McNugget intake) even as he swindles our shortstop for the next decade from the Braves. The English call this tradition Hunting the Wren, but I wouldn't have time to explain it so you'll just have to take my word.
Overhead view of A’s 2010 outfield. Not pictured: Travis Buck.
If this is not the case and BB is not planning to flip an outfielder or 17 elsewhere for a Savior to be Named Later, what does this signing indicate? That, if MLB grants us a waiver allowing us to play all our OFs at once, then we will stand a good chance of at least competing in, if not outright winning the West? That our offense is still so tepid on paper that we need two plus-defenders at every position, preferably simultaneously? That, if we injected all of these guys with an HGH-and-Spanish-Fly cocktail, they'd combine for at least 20 HRs between them? That the top brass figures that if we can't get 10,000 in the stands, at least we can have a few thousand in the outfield?
Supposing for the sake of argument that the implied idea is not to stockpile more potential centerfielders than the rest of MLB combined, what do we make of this? I can't imagine Travis "Passed" Buck is out this morning, bright and early, looking at prospective houses to purchase in the East Bay based on the Gross signing, that is for sure... you wonder, if poor Travis was the batboy, would the team sign MC Hammer's kid instead?
Anyway I think it’s a good insurance signing, unless like I said you’re Travis Buck’s real estate agent, but beyond that what is the play-within-the-play here? I know it’s in all likelihood wishful drinking (the boorish, somewhat pathetic cousin of wishful thinking), but it’s hard not to anticipate that some sort of additional manifestations are pending to address the SS situation, or rather the lack-of-a-legitimate-major-league-SS situation, so I’d appreciate all of your thoughts on this move... the more arcane, surreal and labyrinthine, the better.
You think I’d make you read this crap without at least giving you some cool rare music?
Today's doggie treat is in honor of Gabriel here.
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I like the pic of our OF :)
Is this the real life-
Is this just fantasy-
Caught in a landslide-
No escape from reality-
Yeah I LOL'd
"To tell the truth, I'm not excited to go to Cleveland, but we have to. If I ever saw myself saying I'm excited going to Cleveland, I'd punch myself in the face, because I'm lying" - Ichiro
by Philip Christy on Feb 1, 2010 10:07 AM PST up reply actions
me too
the best part . . .
Not pictured: Travis Buck
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by micdog2001 on Feb 1, 2010 11:16 AM PST up reply actions 1 recs
We're practically oozing outfielders through our pores now
There must be some injury or something we don’t know about. Slusser, if you’re reading this, we’d love some inside info… hint hint
"Do I talk to myself? No, I just remind myself of what I'm trying to do. You know, I never answer myself so how can I be talking to myself?" - Rickey
I'm repulsed and intrigued all at once
Which, in turn, makes me super-repulsed.
And super-intrigued.
Dammit.
"Smokey, this be not the foul jungles of the darkest East Orient. This be ninepins. We are bound by laws."
I used the word ooze
And my mind immediately went to Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles. I think it was the second movie that was called “secret of the ooze”. Or maybe it was one of the books.
Am I a child of the 80s or what?
"Do I talk to myself? No, I just remind myself of what I'm trying to do. You know, I never answer myself so how can I be talking to myself?" - Rickey
by cuppingmaster on Feb 1, 2010 3:13 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
Dude, I loved "Secret of the Ooze" as a kid
Much better than the first movie. Then I got older and realized that “Secret of the Ooze” was unbearably cheesy, but the first movie is actually pretty decent viewing for adult audiences.
Cartoons were so much better in the 80s.
"Smokey, this be not the foul jungles of the darkest East Orient. This be ninepins. We are bound by laws."
If you also love the books by L Frank Baum,
does that mean your childhood reading was full of Ooze and Oz?
There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, Than are dreamt of in your philosophy.
Master Shredder agrees about 80s cartoons
"Do I talk to myself? No, I just remind myself of what I'm trying to do. You know, I never answer myself so how can I be talking to myself?" - Rickey
by cuppingmaster on Feb 1, 2010 8:39 PM PST up reply actions
I always forget, is that the one with Vanilla Ice doing that Ninja Turtle rap?
Go ninja, go ninja, go!
Always the summers are slipping away.
Find me a way for making it stay.
Grossed-out
Sorry, but I see no reason to have signed Gross. His career slugging and OBP are below Buck’s, and he’s older. Buck must have really pissed off management to have gotten himself so far down the depth chart. I bet he has a nice year playing somewhere else. So long eric patterson too, another wasted get from the Harden trade because we fail to offer him ABs. This does not seem strategic at all.
No problem. Patterson will play 2B when Ellis is hurt, and LF when Crisp is hurt.
Gross will play RF when Sweeney is hurt. Buck could have done that except that he’s sure to be hurt. So you see, the purpose of signing Gross is that he will not be hurt…until he is.
But baseball! Fuck yeah! -- lynnzgal
by WaddellCanseco on Feb 1, 2010 7:29 AM PST up reply actions
Buck has sucked the last couple seasons and always gets hurt
Thank you Al Davis for Michael Crabtree!!!!!
Then he should work on his sucking skills
(see after dark QOTM)
"Tonto think Billy Beane need to make team full of squirrels and bears."
by OptimistPrime on Feb 1, 2010 9:27 AM PST up reply actions
Or head and shoulders like
Polamalu it helps with the 3 4 hairfence
Thank you Al Davis for Michael Crabtree!!!!!
if it weren't for the wife beater/Michael Jordan combo,
the Polamalu commercials would be the most obviously homoerotic commercials out there.
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by Leopold Bloom on Feb 1, 2010 4:24 PM PST up reply actions
I've found that some of the Axe commercials,
in spite of the token females, are pretty homoerotic.
There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, Than are dreamt of in your philosophy.
tru dat.
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by Leopold Bloom on Feb 1, 2010 5:39 PM PST up reply actions
I didn't believe that was really him at first
I thought they purposely got a really effeminate-looking guy to play him as a joke.
Then the roomie’s all like, “No, dude. Polamalu.”
"Smokey, this be not the foul jungles of the darkest East Orient. This be ninepins. We are bound by laws."
Have you ever heard an interview of his?
The dude is legitimately strange. My roommate is a huge Steeler’s fan and I watched America’s Game on NFL network about Pitt after they won last year – eyeopening interviews with Polamalu.
The dude can flat out play though.
agrd.
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by Leopold Bloom on Feb 1, 2010 6:58 PM PST up reply actions
Brilliant!
Your article, not nec. the signing. My only opinion is that I laughed more reading your material than I have in a while. Well done and rec’d!
The A's. The SWINGING A's. That's right, the SWINGING A's.
It's something to do with center justified.
But I just couldn’t read this.
Thanks anyway.
Nick Swisher is handsome.
Well, I wasn't going to say so, but now that you mention it,
+1
There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, Than are dreamt of in your philosophy.
I assumed that it was a form function, a comment on the fact that the A's have a million CFs?
I suspect that you think tilting at windmills means something other than what it does.
He's gonna get plunked during all 5 of his plate appearances?
"Smokey, this be not the foul jungles of the darkest East Orient. This be ninepins. We are bound by laws."
Why coulnd't we have gotten gomes or someone with a bigger upside
Thank you Al Davis for Michael Crabtree!!!!!
From Buster Olney this AM.....
http://twitter.com/Buster_ESPN
Buster_ESPN Reds and Oakland completed trade of Aaron Miles and PTBNL or cash for Willy Taveras and Adam Rosales… More on our site momentarily.
Bring back Hammer.
Just what we need
Another OF and 3Bman.
You know what I need? A drink.
"Do I talk to myself? No, I just remind myself of what I'm trying to do. You know, I never answer myself so how can I be talking to myself?" - Rickey
by cuppingmaster on Feb 1, 2010 9:27 AM PST up reply actions
Lol isn't Taveras fast though
So perhaps some pinch running/ stolen bags
Thank you Al Davis for Michael Crabtree!!!!!
new strategy
channeling herb washington
"Do I talk to myself? No, I just remind myself of what I'm trying to do. You know, I never answer myself so how can I be talking to myself?" - Rickey
by cuppingmaster on Feb 1, 2010 9:46 AM PST up reply actions
I was paying less attention to taveras than...
rosales. What do we know about him? The fangraphs stats are mixed…
clearly we are acquiring him for glove only
As he appears to few useful offensive skills
"Do I talk to myself? No, I just remind myself of what I'm trying to do. You know, I never answer myself so how can I be talking to myself?" - Rickey
by cuppingmaster on Feb 1, 2010 9:30 AM PST up reply actions
^ to have
"Do I talk to myself? No, I just remind myself of what I'm trying to do. You know, I never answer myself so how can I be talking to myself?" - Rickey
by cuppingmaster on Feb 1, 2010 9:30 AM PST up reply actions
Read his MiLB profile..
I definitely think he is the guy Billy Beane wanted. in 2008 at Triple A:
In 117g for Louisville hit .287 and appeared in 66g at 3B, 25g at SS, 19g at 1B and 9g at 2B
I was talking about Taveras, actually
sorry for the confusion. Haven’t looked much at Rosales yet.
"Do I talk to myself? No, I just remind myself of what I'm trying to do. You know, I never answer myself so how can I be talking to myself?" - Rickey
by cuppingmaster on Feb 1, 2010 9:47 AM PST up reply actions
Wanna get away?
Now you can. Fly on Southwest Airlines…
Actually, I should get away
Since I’m the one who made the embarrassing gaffe. You were obviously not talking about Taveras.
sweet, sweet Faustus.
We could never hold it against you.
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by Leopold Bloom on Feb 1, 2010 5:22 PM PST up reply actions
But you think Mephistopheles wanted to.
There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, Than are dreamt of in your philosophy.
well, he did have a contract....
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by Leopold Bloom on Feb 1, 2010 5:39 PM PST up reply actions
He also has a long tail.
There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, Than are dreamt of in your philosophy.
.....don't you?
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by Leopold Bloom on Feb 1, 2010 5:41 PM PST up reply actions
Missed Sickels's top 20 list
So a C/C- grade prospect. Somewhat old for AAA, will turn 27 in May. No plate discipline.
Taveras will earn $4M in 2010 compared to Miles earning $2.7M (1M covered by the cubs).
According to Cot's, Rosales has a full year and change of service time
So that would explain him not being on Sickels’ list this year. In 2009 though, Rosales was on the “others to include” list.
www.zekeishungry.com
by thejd44 on Feb 1, 2010 10:35 AM PST up reply actions
More Roalses Sprinting.
“I’ve been doing it since I was a little kid,” Rosales said. “I’m not going to change. I just do it. I think it’s fun. It’s who I am. I always get razzed about it. That’s what makes it fun. Give them a reason. But I’m going to keep doing it.”
Rosales, who was tagged during Spring Training with the nickname “Pete Rosales” after a certain Cincinnati icon, is always running — he goes full speed to the field between innings, after making outs and even when he draws a walk. It’s not part of an act but just how he rolls.
Bring back Hammer.
YAO!
Yet
Another
Outfielder
…to compete for a position during ST.
I hope they have a lot of triple-split-squad games, because, man, how are they going to evaluate who stays, who goes??
Awaiting the start of the 2010 season!
by One won lost won on Feb 1, 2010 9:32 AM PST up reply actions
Willy T makes $4 million in 2010
So unless the Reds are paying that, have to imagine he is staying.
Bring back Hammer.
I don't think so
looks like just taking on salary to get Rosales. He’s definitely not staying unless there’s another OF trade, and this deal actually puts the 40-man to 42.
With stout hearts, and with enthusiasm for the contest, let us go forward to victory. ----Hero Defector Montgomery
Miles was on the 40 man
So him, minus the PTBNL makes 40
"Do I talk to myself? No, I just remind myself of what I'm trying to do. You know, I never answer myself so how can I be talking to myself?" - Rickey
by cuppingmaster on Feb 1, 2010 10:28 AM PST up reply actions
They were at 41, Rosales + Taveras-Miles = 42
So probably Taveras will just be released.
With stout hearts, and with enthusiasm for the contest, let us go forward to victory. ----Hero Defector Montgomery
Right. They haven't yet made a move regarding Gross
So a couple people are about to have new jobs (or no jobs).
www.zekeishungry.com
by thejd44 on Feb 1, 2010 10:32 AM PST up reply actions
why DFA taveras?
Didn’t we just acquire him?
"Do I talk to myself? No, I just remind myself of what I'm trying to do. You know, I never answer myself so how can I be talking to myself?" - Rickey
by cuppingmaster on Feb 1, 2010 10:55 AM PST up reply actions
it has been done
along with Eveland
You have to include smiley faces - Poppy
;- ) :- ) :-O : -> : -] : -}
and the ptbnl obviously can't come off the 40 man now...
With stout hearts, and with enthusiasm for the contest, let us go forward to victory. ----Hero Defector Montgomery
GOD NO!!!
Billy, please don’t trade Kara!!!! I am in LOVE LUST with that woman, and I know for a fact she loves it when I find her at the stadium and follow her around for 1 or 9 innings.
"Tonto think Billy Beane need to make team full of squirrels and bears."
Oh, I don't know
He can trade her for this prospect any day. (Probably NSFW)
Shawn Spencer: "I’m receiving a transmission from your husband. Really more of a voicemail, if I'm being honest. A status update. Perhaps a twitter."
Burton Guster: "I believe it’s called a tweet."
Shawn Spencer: "There’s no way I’m saying that."
I always knew you were brilliant PT
"Tonto think Billy Beane need to make team full of squirrels and bears."
by OptimistPrime on Feb 1, 2010 10:53 AM PST up reply actions
I always knew you were prilliant BT
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by Leopold Bloom on Feb 2, 2010 10:17 AM PST up reply actions
She was a reporter over at CNET before she came here.
Bit of an odd career move.
Always the summers are slipping away.
Find me a way for making it stay.
She has a tarp fetish
"Tonto think Billy Beane need to make team full of squirrels and bears."
by OptimistPrime on Feb 1, 2010 10:56 AM PST up reply actions
Let's all sneak in under the third deck tarp
and have an epic game of “Hide And Go Crawl”
"Sniff some krazy glue, and start a religion!"- The Reverend Billy Lard
by Gaijin_Suketto on Feb 1, 2010 5:20 PM PST up reply actions
I love women with tarp fetishes
"Whether you think you can, or you think you can't, either way, YOU'RE RIGHT !"
If she's got the tarp, I'll pitch the tent.
by Thefirstletterofthealphabet on Feb 1, 2010 6:40 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Doesn't that give us 2 over the 40 man limit now?
With the Gross signing that was going to put us at 41, so if we’re giving up miles for tavares and rosales someone is about to lose their roster spot, right?
SuSlu reports
A’s DFA Eveland and Tevares. So do they have to eat Tevares 4 mil now?
http://twitter.com/susanslusser/status/8508890712
I miss Eric Plunk
Looks like it.
If Wolff is fine with that, I’m fine with it.
Hell of a day for Tevaras. “Hey, you’re traded!”. “Hey, you’re cut!”.
Always the summers are slipping away.
Find me a way for making it stay.
The same wise words my dad gave me on my wedding/divorce day
"Smokey, this be not the foul jungles of the darkest East Orient. This be ninepins. We are bound by laws."
Eveland is gone, Crosby is gone?
I am so happy I think I will cry!
"Tonto think Billy Beane need to make team full of squirrels and bears."
by OptimistPrime on Feb 1, 2010 10:55 AM PST up reply actions
Eveland + Crosby
We’ll miss one who couldn’t pitch without twitching and slouching constantly and the other who swung at the outside pitch and missed every at bat.
Morada Mudshark
by Morada Mudshark on Feb 1, 2010 7:45 PM PST up reply actions
If you pitted them against each other for 1000 ab's
somehow they would BOTH lose…
"They (The 1989 A's) are the best team I ever saw"- Mike Krukow
No Eveland?
"Do I talk to myself? No, I just remind myself of what I'm trying to do. You know, I never answer myself so how can I be talking to myself?" - Rickey
by cuppingmaster on Feb 1, 2010 10:58 AM PST up reply actions
unless he is picked up off of waivers
or traded (neither is likely though)
You have to include smiley faces - Poppy
;- ) :- ) :-O : -> : -] : -}
if he is picked up off waivers or traded he'll not be with the A's organization
however, if he passes through waivers the A’s can offer him a minor league deal — and he might accept.
if he passes through waivers
and isn’t traded, then the A’s have to pay his 2010 salary right? Why would they then pay him more money to play in the minors? Just in case someone gets hurt?
You have to include smiley faces - Poppy
;- ) :- ) :-O : -> : -] : -}
SuSlu is my hero
Really prolific, timely reporting on the A’s. We barely asked the question this morning, and she’s reporting by 11AM.
Since she occasionally reads here, seems like this is as good a place to give props as any.
So this means
The Reds wouldn’t let Rosales go unless we took Tevares. Which makes Rosales a $4mil investment.
I miss Eric Plunk
They took Miles
Who was owed $2.7M, so its a $1.3M investment. And we are getting $1M from the Cubs from the original Miles trade that I assume they will still give us.
Well,
Overall, the investment in Rosales is Taveras’ salary (4M), minus the 1M from the cubs.
3M for Rosales.
The investment in Rosales is $1.3M
Taveras minus Miles.
The $1M from the Cubs is a previous event and should not be a factor in this deal. Its like a sunk cost, only its a sunk windfall or asset. We get it either way so it should not be involved in the analysis of the Rosales deal.
You think he
was so embarrassed he changed his last name?
Yet kept the first name "Willy"?
I think not.
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
On the bright side...
…it seems like every day there’s some new twist to the A’s offseason, which keeps things really interesting.
And to think, it was supposed to be a quiet winter, with no major FA signings and a minimum of action according to Mr. Beane.
Maybe we don’t want the season to start. Maybe it’s better to have the constantly shifting roster create endless amusing speculation about how we’ll do, as opposed to the reality of actually playing the games.
I bleed green and gold!!! (my doctor is worried)
Sure is anything but boring around here....
Things are getting real interesting in Oakland……Rosales looks like an interesting pickup if he can indeed handle the backup role at SS & 2nd.
Zeigler to Geren…."A-Rod? He’s my bitch." -alox
He did it for the Reds last year.
I don’t think he’s going to be particularly good, but he’s not worse than Miles, and he’s quite a bit younger.
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by thejd44 on Feb 1, 2010 11:29 AM PST up reply actions
seems he has played all four infirled positions fo rthe Reds
and apparently most of his experience is at 2B and ss. so yeah, a younger, cheaper utility infielder.
all four infrared positions?
Well, if this dude can make catches we can’t even SEE, then of course I want him!
"Sniff some krazy glue, and start a religion!"- The Reverend Billy Lard
by Gaijin_Suketto on Feb 1, 2010 5:22 PM PST up reply actions
God damn, he's good!
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by Leopold Bloom on Feb 1, 2010 5:23 PM PST up reply actions
Unfortunately the umpires can't see them either.
So they don’t count. :-(
There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, Than are dreamt of in your philosophy.
wait wait wait, isn't that byrnes pic an animated gif?
can it be collapsed? i assume it can be collapsed, because i don’t see 200 comments complaining about it…
A's v Giants "is kind of like the difference between going to see the Ramones and going to see the Bee Gees. A's fans will go see the Ramones."
-BB 07/27/05
I think this counts as baiting.
They call their best player "Kung Fu Panda" and they complain that people aren’t taking them or the game seriously enough? -Nick
To be honest, I, too, was wondering the difference between a post with pics and a comment with pics
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by thejd44 on Feb 1, 2010 11:40 AM PST up reply actions
yeah, the truth is baiting.
what’s the difference? please enlighten us.
A's v Giants "is kind of like the difference between going to see the Ramones and going to see the Bee Gees. A's fans will go see the Ramones."
-BB 07/27/05
couldn't tell ya, and what's more -- I don't give a fuck.
The animated gifs don’t bother me whatsoever. I just find it curious that you go out of your way to do something that bugs other people. Someone as low key as NSJ even came out and called you an asshole for doing it, and you’re still blind to it and either think you’re doing nothing wrong (bullshit) or keep doing it regardless of others being bothered.
eh. like I said it doesn’t bother me at all, just seems strange that somebody would be going out of their way to bother someone like that.
They call their best player "Kung Fu Panda" and they complain that people aren’t taking them or the game seriously enough? -Nick
do you have a link for this, or did you just pull it out of your ass?
Someone as low key as NSJ even came out and called you an asshole for doing it,
actually nsj called me an asshole for stating that there is 0% chance of the a’s trading for hanley ramirez, not for posting animated gifs. prior to that he had actually said numerous times that he liked my gifs. so unless you can provide some evidence, you’re wrong.
just seems strange that somebody would be going out of their way to bother someone like that.
well maybe emperor nobody will explain why he did it…
A's v Giants "is kind of like the difference between going to see the Ramones and going to see the Bee Gees. A's fans will go see the Ramones."
-BB 07/27/05
Oh, he called you an asshole for a different reason.
Whatever.
They call their best player "Kung Fu Panda" and they complain that people aren’t taking them or the game seriously enough? -Nick
That animated gif made my day
Whoever doesn’t like it is an asshole.
It makes me think of the one of Raul Ibanez
Phillies got the laugh after last season, maybe not the last laugh though.
YOU'RE the ****ing one who brought up non-collapsable animated gifs in that other thread
let’s see…
fact 1: animate gif
fact 2: can’t be collapsed
fact 3: no one is complaining
and how the fuck is it “baiting”?
A's v Giants "is kind of like the difference between going to see the Ramones and going to see the Bee Gees. A's fans will go see the Ramones."
-BB 07/27/05
You enjoy getting in fights, don't you?
Look, I don’t get why people are even annoyed at not being able to collapse posts in the first place. If your computer can’t handle animated gifs, then you either need to spring for something faster than 14.4kBs internet or save up the $3-400 for a computer that can. I mean we’re not talking complex flash or streaming media here, we’re talking animated gifs… It’s a fairly petty fight all around.
But you’re not protesting this on any rational reason, you’re doing it to prove a point and to piss people off. Congratulations, you’re certainly succeeding on the latter part.
This isn’t about rules, or guidelines or whatever. It’s about common respect. Iglew( the only person I’ve ever seen complain about animated gifs ), even said as much in the other thread. Not every thing that bothers everyone is going to be commented on every time. A random gif in the main post from a poster that doesn’t normally do it – probably not worth a comment until it becomes a trend. A random gif from a poster who does it frequently, has been politely asked to stop, and continues to do it out of spite/anger/hate? Ya, that’s clearly not going to go over as well.
If you really don’t see why people think you’re in the wrong here, you need to step back and re-evaluate. Cause as someone who really doesn’t have any friends or enemies( well no one that I particularly dislike, there might be some that dislike me ) on AN, you’re the one coming off all wrong here. And that’s even with me also hating iglew’s green block of an icon( It reminds me of the H&R Block logo, which in turn reminds me of taxes…ugh ).
by rrryanc on Feb 1, 2010 12:11 PM PST up reply actions 7 recs
friends? enemies?
this is just random people you don’t know posting on an internet site, it’s not a battle between two groups like on lost.
iglew and i actually hardly ever disagree with each other, aside from the animated gif issue.
A's v Giants "is kind of like the difference between going to see the Ramones and going to see the Bee Gees. A's fans will go see the Ramones."
-BB 07/27/05
So you're NOT my nemesis then?
We’re not superheros or something?
Fuck.
They call their best player "Kung Fu Panda" and they complain that people aren’t taking them or the game seriously enough? -Nick
i never said *i* wasn't a superhero...
(my special power is arguing)
A's v Giants "is kind of like the difference between going to see the Ramones and going to see the Bee Gees. A's fans will go see the Ramones."
-BB 07/27/05
damn it, xbox,
back up off of it and set your cup down.
Sock puppets have never been able to successfully attack castles. -NM
by Leopold Bloom on Feb 1, 2010 8:10 PM PST up reply actions
i don't know what this means
A's v Giants "is kind of like the difference between going to see the Ramones and going to see the Bee Gees. A's fans will go see the Ramones."
-BB 07/27/05
Neither does Beltre.
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
fail. Should've gone with Miguel Cabrera.
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by Leopold Bloom on Feb 1, 2010 8:47 PM PST up reply actions
again, i get beltre, i don't cabrera
A's v Giants "is kind of like the difference between going to see the Ramones and going to see the Bee Gees. A's fans will go see the Ramones."
-BB 07/27/05
It's lyrics, to Gin n Juice.
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by Leopold Bloom on Feb 1, 2010 8:48 PM PST up reply actions
Cabrera
had a widely publicized drinking problem at the end of the 2009 season.
but both his testicles are fine, right?
A's v Giants "is kind of like the difference between going to see the Ramones and going to see the Bee Gees. A's fans will go see the Ramones."
-BB 07/27/05
you haven't kicked them lately, have you?
then yes.
"Sniff some krazy glue, and start a religion!"- The Reverend Billy Lard
by Gaijin_Suketto on Feb 1, 2010 11:10 PM PST up reply actions
I didn't even think of H&R Block when I first picked that avatar.
I realized it a few weeks later and thought it was funny. (H&R Block is a lighter shade, though.)
The only reason I have an avatar at all is because when the AN upgrade first came out I was experimenting with the function and once I had an avatar I was unable to delete it, only replace it. So I replaced it with something bland and non-descript. I assume it’s possible to delete an avatar now (or maybe not??) but now I’m used to the green so I leave it.
As for the gifs, I didn’t complain about Bhaskar’s in the last thread. Someone else brought it up. I did make a request to someone else who did it further down, because I think he was a newbie who just didn’t know better.
There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, Than are dreamt of in your philosophy.
Baiting = Because you said something about it
"Do I talk to myself? No, I just remind myself of what I'm trying to do. You know, I never answer myself so how can I be talking to myself?" - Rickey
by cuppingmaster on Feb 1, 2010 12:12 PM PST up reply actions
so when i say something about it in a thread with an animated gif, it's baiting
what about when mikev brought it up in a thread with (at the time) zero animated gifs?
A's v Giants "is kind of like the difference between going to see the Ramones and going to see the Bee Gees. A's fans will go see the Ramones."
-BB 07/27/05
Can you guys continue this feud on some other blog?
Or at least please create your own thread for this, because it’s pretty annoying that it makes an appearance on all recent posts.
These clothes are good enough to drink in, and so be these boots, too.
by RayFosseRules on Feb 1, 2010 12:27 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
you're right, i should have commented in the other thread, with a link to this one.
A's v Giants "is kind of like the difference between going to see the Ramones and going to see the Bee Gees. A's fans will go see the Ramones."
-BB 07/27/05
there she was, in platform double suede.
yeah, there she was, like disco lemonade.
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by Leopold Bloom on Feb 1, 2010 4:29 PM PST up reply actions
Underrated album
I’m not joking.
"Smokey, this be not the foul jungles of the darkest East Orient. This be ninepins. We are bound by laws."
awesome song.
can’t speak to the album.
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by Leopold Bloom on Feb 1, 2010 7:01 PM PST up reply actions
Jesus Christ, this again?
"Smokey, this be not the foul jungles of the darkest East Orient. This be ninepins. We are bound by laws."
by Joey C. on Feb 1, 2010 2:28 PM PST up reply actions 2 recs
Hey! The A's made another trade
…for yet someone else the Braves don’t need. Now that this thread is back on topic…
HEYYYY, BOBBY. HEYYYY, BOBBY. C'MON, BOBBY. HEYYYY, BOBBY. HEYYYY, BOBBY. LET'S GO BOBBAYYYYYYYYYY!
by OaklandNative on Feb 1, 2010 3:40 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
Hey! The A's made another trade
…for yet someone else the Braves don’t need. Now that this thread is back on topic…
HEYYYY, BOBBY. HEYYYY, BOBBY. C'MON, BOBBY. HEYYYY, BOBBY. HEYYYY, BOBBY. LET'S GO BOBBAYYYYYYYYYY!
by OaklandNative on Feb 1, 2010 3:43 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
Hey! The A's made another trade
…for yet someone else the Braves don’t need. Now that this thread is back on topic…
HEYYYY, BOBBY. HEYYYY, BOBBY. C'MON, BOBBY. HEYYYY, BOBBY. HEYYYY, BOBBY. LET'S GO BOBBAYYYYYYYYYY!
by OaklandNative on Feb 1, 2010 3:46 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
I hate animated .gifs
because they are stupid. They sit there dancing around when I am trying to read, being distracting. I like to collapse them. I would appreciate it if people who insist on posting them would make it easy on us folks that don’t like them to collapse them.
I hate it when people swear overly. An occasional swear is fine, especially when the situation calls for it, but constantly spouting f-words grates on me, even when starred out.
I hate it when people get into personality wars on my favorite sports blog. I wish they would use email instead and let us talk about baseball.
by Chilango on Feb 1, 2010 3:40 PM PST up reply actions 3 recs
Generally, you shouldn't end sentences with an adverb
You’re welcome.
A southern blonde girl is in New York for the first time
She gets on the subway and sits next to a woman in a business suit. They meet eyes and the blonde smiles.
“Where y’all from?”
The businesswoman replies, “A place where we do not end a sentence in a preposition.”
The blonde stops to think, then looks at the businesswoman and says, “Where y’all from, bitch?”
"Smokey, this be not the foul jungles of the darkest East Orient. This be ninepins. We are bound by laws."
This is the kind of nonsense
up with which you should not put!
see, if you avoid using prepositions to end a sentence
Talk like Yoda, you will
"They (The 1989 A's) are the best team I ever saw"- Mike Krukow
by 9Custs on Feb 1, 2010 9:01 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
love.
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by Leopold Bloom on Feb 1, 2010 7:02 PM PST up reply actions
well...
since you insist, distracting modifies the pronoun they, so it is an adjective unfortunately.
by Chilango on Feb 1, 2010 6:14 PM PST up reply actions
Overly's an adverb though, right?
I’m terrible at grammar though, so I could certainly be mistaken here. Just go by the -ly rule.
Not likely.
Friendly, lively, manly, heavenly, scholarly, lovely, elderly, homely, likely, dastardly.
There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, Than are dreamt of in your philosophy.
I'm sure eddie was referring to "overly," which is an adverb
As is “unfortunately,” come to think of it.
I’m not the one complaining, though. I’m hardly above nitpicking, but these aren’t the nits I want to pick. I wouldn’t want to be Joey C.’s bitch.
They all have very nice things to say about me
And they know not to use dangling participles.
"Smokey, this be not the foul jungles of the darkest East Orient. This be ninepins. We are bound by laws."
Seriously, this is the first time I've ever heard
there’s a rule against ending a sentence with an adverb.
It would be weird strictly to follow that rule. Why so strangely you are talking people would wonder. Like Yoda you would sound.
There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, Than are dreamt of in your philosophy.
you say that like it's a bad thing.
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by Leopold Bloom on Feb 1, 2010 8:42 PM PST up reply actions
"He ran slowly."
“No, it’s, ‘Slowly he ran.’”
I don’t think so.
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
If you send a sympathy card to a sick friend,
it says, “Well soon get.”
There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, Than are dreamt of in your philosophy.
Where am I supposed to get to?!
And on top of it, I’m sick.
Sock puppets have never been able to successfully attack castles. -NM
by Leopold Bloom on Feb 1, 2010 8:49 PM PST up reply actions
I hope soon better you feel.
I’m sure the rest of us, too, so hope.
There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, Than are dreamt of in your philosophy.
my life, fuck.
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
It's moments like these when I'm most proud of my stupidity.
Go ahead, fix it. You know you want to.
And don't even get me started about siglines that are too long!
There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, Than are dreamt of in your philosophy.
I hate it when people talk like they're texting
I hate it when people use the left lane to pass a few cars, and then try to cut across 2 lanes of traffic to make their exit. When you do that, you are the one causing the traffic. Stay in your lane, keep moving, and everyone wins.
I hate it when you ask someone where they want to go for dinner and they say, “I don’t care.” Then you pick a place and they don’t complain until they sit down and look at the menu.
I hate digital tv.
Oh wait, that’s not what we’re doing here…
and long, slow kisses that last three days.
I love Don. I love Stomper.
And I love you. Kisses.
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by Leopold Bloom on Feb 1, 2010 8:20 PM PST up reply actions
Lookout Landing is passionate about cars staying in the correct lanes.
Seriously.
There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, Than are dreamt of in your philosophy.
....
how do they feel about Don?
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by Leopold Bloom on Feb 1, 2010 8:40 PM PST up reply actions
oh lord no.
stay here.
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by Leopold Bloom on Feb 1, 2010 9:29 PM PST up reply actions
yeah, but i'm only causing traffic for the people *behind* me
A's v Giants "is kind of like the difference between going to see the Ramones and going to see the Bee Gees. A's fans will go see the Ramones."
-BB 07/27/05
Why didn't we draft Aaron Hicks Instead of Weeks
Or Mike Trout Instead of Grant Green, this is like when I play NBA Franchise mode
and I have a 10 Small forwards
This is totally unrelated
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=21OH0wlkfbc
That's fantastic.
That rug really tied the room together...
by Streams Of Whiskey on Feb 1, 2010 1:59 PM PST up reply actions
I think A's will DFA Petit next
After adding Rosales and Tolleson, it sure isn’t a sign of confidence that Petit has a future here.
wow, I post & then take a 5 hour nap
and when I wake up Billy Beane has made another 23 moves, whoa.
So any moment, we should expect the Rosales-Taveras-Eveland-Davis-Mike Norris-Reggie Jackson trade for Yunel Escobar, Hanley Ramirez and Wille Mays, who will be our backup at SS?
[[stares down Buster Olney’s Twitter screen in anticipation]]
Hey, I just bought the team from Lew Wolff... who wants to play third?
Ozzie Smith, of course
And he will put stomper to shame every single game.
When I saw this on ESPN.com, I figured everyone here would be jumping for joy
After all, Miles is out the door. NIce work by Steamin’ Billy Beane-in.
"Smokey, this be not the foul jungles of the darkest East Orient. This be ninepins. We are bound by laws."
Look here
http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2010/02/athletics-designate-dana-eveland-for-assignment.html
"Do I talk to myself? No, I just remind myself of what I'm trying to do. You know, I never answer myself so how can I be talking to myself?" - Rickey
by cuppingmaster on Feb 1, 2010 3:33 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
OakA'sHoney just asked for the trades to be diagrammed.
But if you want to take that and add logos for the Twins and River Cats, you’re welcome to :P
i like how taveras deflected off miles and into the garbage can without ever actually reaching the a's
A's v Giants "is kind of like the difference between going to see the Ramones and going to see the Bee Gees. A's fans will go see the Ramones."
-BB 07/27/05
sticking to lost, i'm calling feb 1, 2010
“the purge”
A's v Giants "is kind of like the difference between going to see the Ramones and going to see the Bee Gees. A's fans will go see the Ramones."
-BB 07/27/05
by xbhaskarx on Feb 1, 2010 4:10 PM PST up reply actions 2 recs
This is effed up.
And very funny.
Brilliant I would say, especially coming from an asshole.
"You may glory in a team triumphant, but you fall in love with a team in defeat."--The Boys of Summer
thanks, that does really help. dick and jane style. love it. I can relate.
alaska A residing in northern Idaho.
Well done?
Hardly.
Effing brilliant.
"You may glory in a team triumphant, but you fall in love with a team in defeat."--The Boys of Summer
Willy T was mid-flight?
Did he have to parachute out or did a pilot lose his life in the service of roster management?
I love how Willy Taveras has the freakish ability to change fonts mid-thought.
Always the summers are slipping away.
Find me a way for making it stay.
don't kill me but i think i might miss eveland in his hipster glasses
but sitting with the rest of the pitchers, not actually pitching
he'll have plenty for poetry slams soon
"Do I talk to myself? No, I just remind myself of what I'm trying to do. You know, I never answer myself so how can I be talking to myself?" - Rickey
by cuppingmaster on Feb 1, 2010 5:08 PM PST up reply actions
At my office it is challenging enough to keep track of items in the process and we got databases.
I have really lost it keeping track of the A’s transaction this year. I need to follow my own advice, not get too
into getting “attached to outcomes” whilst maintaining the entertainment value – or go into a sensory deprivation tank until opening day.
alaska A residing in northern Idaho.
Jesus this is the funniest post I've ever read
that outfield picture had me dyin’. Bravo emperor, bravo.
"They (The 1989 A's) are the best team I ever saw"- Mike Krukow
Geez, even I am playing
in the A’s outfield this year! Where did you dig up that photo of our practice? ;)
Forst quotes
“He’s exactly what we needed for a utility infielder,” A’s assistant general manager David Forst said of Rosales. "He plays some outfield too, and he’s a relatively young guy with not that much Major League service time who we feel could potentially be here for a while.
“Our scouts have seen a lot of him over the past few years, and every single one of them just loves the way he plays the game and really likes his versatility.”
Not good news for Patterson who's only shot was at utility
Even if A’s finally filled their utility IF need, they are likely far from done. Still need to see what happens to the 3 DFA’d players. How they manage to fit in the buck, patterson, and fox trio.
STOP THE INSANITY!!!! WTF IS GOING ON!!!
BBBWWWWWWAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!
Spring training cant get here soon enough. Im so tired of all these moves on top of moves, just so Billy can avoid the Ire of the players union getting mad for lack of spending.
TRANQUILITY NOW!!!
"I mean, come on, man. I'm a vet. Don't talk to me like that. If they do, I'll just smile." Nnamdi Asomugha
Your comment doesnt make sense
So bringing in a utility infielder and 4th OF doesnt improve the team? Plus the insignificant amount spent which around $ 2 mill for both has nothing to do with players union’s concern. The A’s werent even on the list of targeted teams
1 anda 2 anda 3.....
We already had a utility infield guy, 2 in fact with Patterson and Petit, along with 10,000 4th outfielders.
All this day did, was increase the payroll to keep the union off the A’s back. Sure they weren’t on the original list, but there were definitely grumblings around the league that they could have been.
"I mean, come on, man. I'm a vet. Don't talk to me like that. If they do, I'll just smile." Nnamdi Asomugha
by s0sNe@kYbUtY? on Feb 1, 2010 9:34 PM PST up reply actions
Eric Patterson could only plausibly play one infield position
Depending on what you think of his hitting and defense projections, it could easily be argued that Petit could not plausibly play ANY infield positions. The same could be said of Aaron Miles.
I held out hope for Petit for some time but he just hasn’t made any progress at all with the bat in the last few years.
Shawn Spencer: "I’m receiving a transmission from your husband. Really more of a voicemail, if I'm being honest. A status update. Perhaps a twitter."
Burton Guster: "I believe it’s called a tweet."
Shawn Spencer: "There’s no way I’m saying that."
I'll give you Eric Patterson......
but there is no reason to believe that Petit could not have been a good utility guy, especially since he’s only played in 25 MLB games over the last two years. 54 ABs is certainly not a great sample size, especially over two seasons and in a non starting role with only 1 or 2 ABs a game a couple times a week. The guy could play both 2B and SS (his main position in the minors).
Now don’t get me wrong, he’s wasn’t gonna turn any heads most likely, and instead would be about BoCro able IMO, but as a backup, you cant really ask for more. I mean there are only so many Marco Scuttaro’s with big hit ability in the bigs.
Rosales had one good 30 game stretch in AAA where he hit .349, but in 51 MLB ABs he hit about .210, below even Petit with an equally small sample size, right? However, I do see that Rosales can play almost anywhere, which is nice, but the A’s concern before today was a MIF utility guy, and its highly unlikely Rosales will play much beyond SS and 2B, just like Petit.
Truth is, IMO, they are essentially a wash, canceling each other out, which makes me think today was all about $$$ and the union.
"I mean, come on, man. I'm a vet. Don't talk to me like that. If they do, I'll just smile." Nnamdi Asomugha
by s0sNe@kYbUtY? on Feb 2, 2010 4:08 AM PST up reply actions
Yeah
Because the union is totally concerned with trying to get their players paid the exact same amount of money, but by slightly different franchises.
That “explanation” is ludicrous on its face. The union wants teams making a good-faith effort to sign players, not acting as a salary-dump clearinghouse for big teams’ mistakes.
Rosales is old but he’s clearly made progress with the bat in the minor leagues, giving at least the chance that he might be able to carry it over into the majors. He is obviously not going to hit .349 in the majors, but that’s not the only line he’s posted in the minors in recent years. He hit .287/.339/.463 in 2008. This is in the International League, mind. Petit hit like 200 OPS points lower over that span in the vastly-more-friendly Pacific Coast League.
Their projections are comically far apart. Rosales’s projected CHONE wOBA is .325. Petit’s is .270.
And Petit hasn’t even played particularly well on defense lately, which was the one thing that could have made him an acceptable major leaguer. He’s still extremely erratic and error-prone. Rosales isn’t going to win any Gold Gloves but it’s not clear that he’s actually worse than Petit with the glove.
Finally, and this is not related, but howzabout we avoid posting inflammatory, insulting political cartoons on AN, k?
Shawn Spencer: "I’m receiving a transmission from your husband. Really more of a voicemail, if I'm being honest. A status update. Perhaps a twitter."
Burton Guster: "I believe it’s called a tweet."
Shawn Spencer: "There’s no way I’m saying that."
by PaulThomas on Feb 2, 2010 9:23 AM PST up reply actions 1 recs
first.....
I dont know what UFT is, and I just thought the picture was funny, no politics involved whatsoever. Even if it was, grow some thicker skin, its just a picture. My parents are both in Unions, and Im actually for expanded unionization and union rights as its one of the only ways for the little guy to stand up to Coorp America.
Second, and I will say it again, there is not much difference between the two players for all the reasons I mentioned above, certainly not enough to eat 4 mil of another players contract just to get the guy, unless there are ulterior motives I also expressed above. .050 points of wOBA is not gonna change my mind, nor is a guys utility beyond what hes actually gonna be asked to do, IE play 2B and SS.
But hey, we can also agree to disagree, and let the future tell us who’s right. I’ll gladly admit my fault if Rosales turns into a Scuttaro.
"I mean, come on, man. I'm a vet. Don't talk to me like that. If they do, I'll just smile." Nnamdi Asomugha
by s0sNe@kYbUtY? on Feb 2, 2010 2:53 PM PST up reply actions
It's not about having a thicker skin.
See discussion here.
There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, Than are dreamt of in your philosophy.
If I wanna discuss the Players Union.....
I will. Its a part of baseball. Its not like there a weak of soft Union either, given the amount of money they represent. I do however apologize if I offended any teachers, as I was unaware what UFT was till PT let me know, and just thought it was a funny picture. Reminds me of my construction working Uncle. Cigar smoking, belt needing, overweight man with a 5 oclock shadow.
"I mean, come on, man. I'm a vet. Don't talk to me like that. If they do, I'll just smile." Nnamdi Asomugha
by s0sNe@kYbUtY? on Feb 2, 2010 8:44 PM PST up reply actions
It's actually .055
That’s roughly the difference in hitting ability between Ryan Zimmerman and Andy LaRoche.
Over the ~200 plate appearances they can be expected to take, it’s a difference of about 10 runs.
UFT is the United Federation of Teachers. Teachers’ unions are an extremely hot-button political issue that really does not belong on this site, regardless of one’s opinions on unionism.
Shawn Spencer: "I’m receiving a transmission from your husband. Really more of a voicemail, if I'm being honest. A status update. Perhaps a twitter."
Burton Guster: "I believe it’s called a tweet."
Shawn Spencer: "There’s no way I’m saying that."
Baring Injury........
I doubt Rosales get 200 ABs, but if he does, we will then see who wins the argument. Are 10 runs, which is unlikely as his ABs will be so spread out in his utility role, worth eating 4 mil? IMO, not really, especially when Petit never really got a legit shot to prove himself at the MLB level.
I think its obvious I was referring to the Players Union, at the very least following my explanation, but I appreciate the info on the UFT. And if referring to the Players Union, I think its totally within the bounds of this site.
"I mean, come on, man. I'm a vet. Don't talk to me like that. If they do, I'll just smile." Nnamdi Asomugha
by s0sNe@kYbUtY? on Feb 2, 2010 8:40 PM PST up reply actions
I love Petit, but the reason he
“never got a legit shot to prove himself at the MLB level” is that he never proved himself at the AAA level. Guys like Patterson and Cunningham and Everidge got their shot because they beat the snot out of the ball in Sacramento. Guys like Petit and Buck did not.
There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, Than are dreamt of in your philosophy.
Honestly.......
I hope PT is right, I mean, that would be better for the A’s, and I’m all for it. I just question a guys impact with limited and spread out ABs in a utility role, especially when it costs the team 4+ mil to get him. Is that really worth it? We will see, and again, I hope Im wrong, really……..
Im definitely still pulling for Patterson BTW, and I hope he beats out Gross…..
"I mean, come on, man. I'm a vet. Don't talk to me like that. If they do, I'll just smile." Nnamdi Asomugha
by s0sNe@kYbUtY? on Feb 2, 2010 11:11 PM PST up reply actions
You don't think a guy playing behind a middle infield
as injury-riddled as Pennington and Ellis is going to get the equivalent of about 50 games played?
It should also be pointed out that the “$4M” (actually much less since the A’s dumped Miles’s salary in the process) buys them Rosales’s services for as many as five seasons, not one. Granted, given his age he almost certainly would be nontendered before hitting free agency, so maybe it’s better to think of it as 4 seasons, but really— a surcharge of half a million or so a year for four years? Not exactly breaking the bank here.
Shawn Spencer: "I’m receiving a transmission from your husband. Really more of a voicemail, if I'm being honest. A status update. Perhaps a twitter."
Burton Guster: "I believe it’s called a tweet."
Shawn Spencer: "There’s no way I’m saying that."
OK.....
you’ve convinced me. And relooking at Petit Vs Rosales stats on the Cube, I can see where you come from in your argument. I wonder, what’s a realistic # for Rosales’ PAs this season. If he can play anything but P and C (although given the glut of CFs, he is not likely to play there at all) I wonder what is actually doable PA wise. Of course Patterson or Gross, whomever wins tht ST battle, will likely be the 1st OF off the bench in the corners, which cuts down on Rosales’ PAs even more.
And given that situation, and the limited PAs, what’s the likelihood the guy continues his progression? or stalls like others before him? wouldn’t it be better to give a guy like that PAs in Sac? If there is an injury to Ellis or Pennington, he could be brought up and get consistent PAs, which IMO seems more conducive to his progressing at the big league level.
I know Patterson isn’t the best fit at SS, not very good at all really, but if only used in an absolute emergency, its doable. and that allows Rosales to get more time in AAA and continue his progression without having to sit on the bench for long stretches.
Now that he’s an A, I want the kid to succeed, and all these questions are running around in my head.
"I mean, come on, man. I'm a vet. Don't talk to me like that. If they do, I'll just smile." Nnamdi Asomugha
by s0sNe@kYbUtY? on Feb 3, 2010 3:56 AM PST up reply actions
I think Petit vs Rosales is the wrong way to look at this.
Yes, they’re both on the middle infield depth chart, and the two moves happened at the same time, but it’s really two separate considerations.
There are two different roles here. One is the guy on the 25-man roster who mostly sits on the bench. That slot was Aaron Miles, but Beane was actively looking for an upgrade. Rosales is that upgrade because (1) he doesn’t suck as much, (2) he’s younger, and (3) he has options, which provides flexibility just in case Chavez is possible in the role.
A different role is the starting SS in Sacramento who is the fallback plan in case the entire Oakland infield falls apart but otherwise isn’t slated for the majors. Petit was in this slot and was so-so filler there. I don’t think Beane was actively looking to upgrade there, but he probably had a watch out in case anyone better showed up on the waiver wire. Tolleson was waived and is better than Petit, so the upgrade was done.
Petit was not DFA’ed for Rosales; Petit was DFA’ed for Tolleson. The only way this is Petit vs Rosales is if you imagined Petit as a candidate for the Miles/Rosales role, but I don’t think he ever really was.
There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, Than are dreamt of in your philosophy.
This is a very well-considered point
I’ll just add that the fact that he’s been DFA’d doesn’t necessarily mean he’s been sent to that trash can Nate so brilliantly diagrammed. I’m betting no one picks him up on waivers and the A’s can outright him right back to Sacto if they want to keep him around in some capacity, without having to expend a 40-man spot on him.
You are wrong
We upgraded our IF in Oakland and in Sacramento by all objective measures. All for what will likely be $900k. Thats a bargain.
You could disagree if you don’t care about minor league statistics I suppose. But thats about all we have to go on so…
If Rosales is gonna play in the bigs as our Utility guy.....
how has Sac’s IF been upgraded?
"I mean, come on, man. I'm a vet. Don't talk to me like that. If they do, I'll just smile." Nnamdi Asomugha
by s0sNe@kYbUtY? on Feb 2, 2010 2:55 PM PST up reply actions
Hes on the 40 man though.....
I though since he was claimed on waivers, hes out of options, no? So if DFAd he can choose not to got to AAA, right? If wrong I retract my statement though.
"I mean, come on, man. I'm a vet. Don't talk to me like that. If they do, I'll just smile." Nnamdi Asomugha
by s0sNe@kYbUtY? on Feb 2, 2010 8:47 PM PST up reply actions
he does have an option....
I retract…….
"I mean, come on, man. I'm a vet. Don't talk to me like that. If they do, I'll just smile." Nnamdi Asomugha
by s0sNe@kYbUtY? on Feb 2, 2010 11:25 PM PST up reply actions
i prefer this album
A's v Giants "is kind of like the difference between going to see the Ramones and going to see the Bee Gees. A's fans will go see the Ramones."
-BB 07/27/05
no wonder you're so angry...
If I listened to that for more than five minutes, I’d be out in my neighborhood with my lawnmower looking for little kids to run over!
"Sniff some krazy glue, and start a religion!"- The Reverend Billy Lard
by Gaijin_Suketto on Feb 1, 2010 11:05 PM PST up reply actions
death metal is not even one of my ten favorite genres
i actually responded to two of your music-related comments here and here.
i only mentioned that album because tranquility → dark tranquillity, and because it’s the opposite of tranquil.
A's v Giants "is kind of like the difference between going to see the Ramones and going to see the Bee Gees. A's fans will go see the Ramones."
-BB 07/27/05
Buck has come out to Urban
On the war path, ready to prove the A’s wrong. Guns blazing, cocked and ready to tear it up this spring. At this point he’s trade bait, with A’s just waiting for a decent offer.
"If they want to move on, fine," Buck said with a trace of defiance. "I’m going into spring training with a little bit of a chip on my shoulder, seeing it as an opportunity to show my potential. Maybe I can help them, either by playing well and getting them a [trade] proposal from a team they can’t refuse, or maybe I show them I’m definitely back to being the player they thought I’d be and they want to keep me.
"I’m cool either way, because there’s no doubt in my mind that if you put me on a big-league roster I’m gonna help that team.
"There’s no way you can tell me I cannot help a team."
If signing a $750,000 bum is what it takes to get him rolling...
then perfect!!
But WANTING to do well and ACTUALLY doing well are two entirely different things.
"I'm not going to buy my kids an encyclopedia. Let them walk to school like I did." -Yogi Berra
... "unless that team was the Oakland Athletics over the previous 2 years."
"Smokey, this be not the foul jungles of the darkest East Orient. This be ninepins. We are bound by laws."
by Joey C. on Feb 1, 2010 7:27 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Dodgers ruin our all-OF scheme
"No matter what I talk about, I always get back to baseball." - Connie Mack
Now who's Beane gonna sign for the 8th OF?
Damn big-market teams just buy their way to the championship.
"I'm not going to buy my kids an encyclopedia. Let them walk to school like I did." -Yogi Berra
by brenarlo on Feb 1, 2010 7:07 PM PST up reply actions 2 recs
Let 'em
You gotta find value signings for the 8th OF spot.
Like Jeremy Giambi.
"Smokey, this be not the foul jungles of the darkest East Orient. This be ninepins. We are bound by laws."
anybody know anything 'bout Steve Tolleson?
2B/SS with decent but not great numbers through AAA.
why is he better than petit?
Rosales = king of scrappiness
Reds fan here – here are some Rosales observations:
- He sprints to 1st base on a walk, which he doesn’t do that much
- He sprints around the bases when he hits HR’s, which, again, he doesn’t do much of
- Cincinnati fell in LOVE with him!
- He plays all positions, not all that well, though.
- He wears his socks high – the AN girls will love that about him.
- His Yahoo Profile picture looks like Michael Phelps
I don’t know that he’s any better than Aaron Miles, honestly. Certainly not $1.3 million better.
"To me, boxing is like a ballet, except there's no music, no choreography, and the dancers hit each other." - Jack Handey
(yawn)
Call me when he slides.
SHOOTY FOREVER, BITCHES!
Sock puppets have never been able to successfully attack castles. -NM
by Leopold Bloom on Feb 1, 2010 8:09 PM PST up reply actions
One thing for sure....
By coming to Oakland, he’s definately going to get laid.
Regularly.
"You may glory in a team triumphant, but you fall in love with a team in defeat."--The Boys of Summer
tru dat.
better than chili and kickin’ it with Esteban, I suppose.
Sock puppets have never been able to successfully attack castles. -NM
by Leopold Bloom on Feb 1, 2010 8:21 PM PST up reply actions
He sure as hell....
isn’t going to be kicking it with Tavares.
"You may glory in a team triumphant, but you fall in love with a team in defeat."--The Boys of Summer
You had me at socks!
There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, Than are dreamt of in your philosophy.
I look at the title of this post
And keep thinking it’s some sort of oxymoronic accounting joke…net gross
"Do I talk to myself? No, I just remind myself of what I'm trying to do. You know, I never answer myself so how can I be talking to myself?" - Rickey
Yes, it is.
That’s what passes as a joke among accountants.
There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, Than are dreamt of in your philosophy.
Apparently,
Jim Beam thinks it’s a good idea for me to go rent some puppies and manipulate some women with them.
I remain skeptical. I don’t even think you can rent puppies.
Sock puppets have never been able to successfully attack castles. -NM
You might have better luck (and more fun)
renting women and manipulating puppies with them
"Do I talk to myself? No, I just remind myself of what I'm trying to do. You know, I never answer myself so how can I be talking to myself?" - Rickey
by cuppingmaster on Feb 1, 2010 8:52 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
I think that's illegal in Florida.
Sock puppets have never been able to successfully attack castles. -NM
by Leopold Bloom on Feb 1, 2010 8:53 PM PST up reply actions
which one?
"Do I talk to myself? No, I just remind myself of what I'm trying to do. You know, I never answer myself so how can I be talking to myself?" - Rickey
by cuppingmaster on Feb 1, 2010 8:53 PM PST up reply actions
puppies.
I’m not sure women get to vote here.
Sock puppets have never been able to successfully attack castles. -NM
by Leopold Bloom on Feb 1, 2010 9:01 PM PST up reply actions
Um, there's only one Florida.
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
This is my Florida.
There are many like it, but this one is mine.
My Florida is my best friend. It is my life. I must master it as I must master my life. Without me, my Florida is useless. Without my Florida, I am useless. I must fire my Florida true. I must shoot straighter than Alabama, who is trying to kill me.
Sock puppets have never been able to successfully attack castles. -NM
by Leopold Bloom on Feb 1, 2010 9:21 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
if i ever see you in the coliseum bathroom, i'm not going in
A's v Giants "is kind of like the difference between going to see the Ramones and going to see the Bee Gees. A's fans will go see the Ramones."
-BB 07/27/05
I AM in a world of shit, xbox.
Sock puppets have never been able to successfully attack castles. -NM
by Leopold Bloom on Feb 1, 2010 9:39 PM PST up reply actions
This is my Florida
But baseball! Fuck yeah! -- lynnzgal
by WaddellCanseco on Feb 1, 2010 11:25 PM PST up reply actions
This is who I think of
But I’m kind of a weirdo that way.
There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, Than are dreamt of in your philosophy.
All I know is....
There is no "i" in Teamocil. At least not where you'd think.
by GreenNGoldSooner on Feb 1, 2010 9:21 PM PST up reply actions
Can anyone tell me...
…why Beane didn’t make a run at another former Athletic, Jermaine Dye? (Given the fact that Beane threw $5.25 million at Coco Crisp, resigned Cust, and traded for Gross that is). Dye just turned down $3.3 million from the Cubs, so he presumably would sign for somewhere in the neighborhood of the $5 million Abreu got from the Angels last year, or that the A’s just gave to Crisp.: http://www.fannation.com/truth_and_rumors/view/151271-report-dye-rejected-cubs-offer
Dye’s average was a meager .250 last year, but he hit 27 HR. With the
A’s, I could imagine him splitting time between DH, 1B, and a 4th OF slot — he could really provide some desperately needed power for this promising pitching staff. Plus, he’s a veteran with a ring, and always seemed like a nice guy — he was injury-plagued with the A’s, my only regret about his tenure.
but he hit 0.5 HR's after the all star break..
"They (The 1989 A's) are the best team I ever saw"- Mike Krukow
that's par for the course.
He’s Mr. April.
Sock puppets have never been able to successfully attack castles. -NM
by Leopold Bloom on Feb 2, 2010 10:22 AM PST up reply actions
I like Jermaine Dye...
I remember rooting for him in the 1996 World Series…
I wish he were younger and played better defense.
I’m also a little worried that he might never OPS .800 ever again…
"Sniff some krazy glue, and start a religion!"- The Reverend Billy Lard
by Gaijin_Suketto on Feb 1, 2010 10:57 PM PST up reply actions
the same reason miles and tavarez are gone, trying to avoid the whole "negative WAR" thing
A's v Giants "is kind of like the difference between going to see the Ramones and going to see the Bee Gees. A's fans will go see the Ramones."
-BB 07/27/05
is xeifrank running the A's?
"The ego, the super-ego, and the Ed" - danmerqury
by Future Ed on Feb 2, 2010 10:40 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Have you looked at his UZR or, indeed, watched him play the outfield lately?
To quote the Genie from Aladdin, it’s not a pretty sight.
And he’s no longer an elite hitter. The A’s have a better DH already.
Hell, they probably even have a better right-handed platoon caddy DH already, if the team for some weird reason decided to expend two roster spots on the DH position.
Shawn Spencer: "I’m receiving a transmission from your husband. Really more of a voicemail, if I'm being honest. A status update. Perhaps a twitter."
Burton Guster: "I believe it’s called a tweet."
Shawn Spencer: "There’s no way I’m saying that."
More on Dye
I hear you guys on Dye’s now-lousy outfield defense — and it’s certainly possible that his weak second half is more representative of his future performance than his overall OK stats.
But it’s also possible that he might get back to his first-half form — it’s no less crazy than thinking that Sheets will go back to being a durable, front-line starter.
My point was that this team really lacks power, particularly at first base…unless you think Daric Barton is going to have a break-out year or that Carter is ready to play this year… neither of which seems likely to me. This team needs more people to drive in runs.
Here’s a skeptical take on Dye’s willingness to play first: http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/index.php/jermaine-dye-at-first-base
by SteveMcPhatty on Feb 2, 2010 1:26 PM PST up reply actions
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