Community Prospect List - Vote for #7
To vote for a player to be dropped from the poll for the next round, make a comment saying you wish that player to be dropped from the poll. If the player already has a comment, Rec that comment. Basically the same rule as nominating players goes.
Please read the following carefully as some of the procedures have changed from previous years.
The format for this year’s community prospect will be a 5 man vote, with write-ins in the comments. To vote for a write in, reply to the person who posts the prospect’s name, saying "I vote for <insert player name here>". Try to keep it all in one chain for these votes, and keep comments to a minimum inside those write in threads.
To nominate a player to be put into the main voting next round, create a comment saying that you nominate that player for voting next round. If the player already has a nomination comment, recommend the comment. Players with the most recommendations will, as I see fit, be put into the voting, and/or swapped out with other players in the main voting options.
I will keep a record of the winners of the votes in each subsequent thread, as well as an announcement of the previous winner. We will aim for a Top 20 prospect list, but will continue further if there is interest.
You are encouraged to post scouting reports of players that you have knowledge about, or have seen play. Please try to be as objective as possible. Good scouting reports will be linked to in subsequent community prospect list threads, as they were last year. Do not be afraid of going all out with a fan post about the prospect, but keep in mind that if you go that route, you should make it very detailed, well thought out and backed up, as it will likely draw much interest and scrutiny. Several posters did very good jobs last year with prospect scouting reports, and I hope for much of the same this year.
Without further ado, let’s start the voting and see who our candidates are:
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Name: Jemile Weeks |
2010 Levels: AA, Rk |
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Name: Ian Krol |
2010 Levels: A-, A+ |
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Name: Josh Donaldson |
2010 Levels: AAA, MLB |
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Name: Tyson Ross |
2010 Levels: AAA, MLB |
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Name: Max Stassi |
2010 Levels: A- |
Vote for whom you think is the top prospect left on the board for each round.
Athletics Nation Community Prospect List:
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#1 – 66% |
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#2 – 58%
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#3 – 35%
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#4 – 37%
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#5–42%
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#6–33%
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Voted Weeks
IIRC Weeks was the highest draft choice by the A’s in nearly a decade, as that years 12th overall pick…..Please don’t tell me injuries have dropped his value out of this round….
Matt Bush went 1st
"So, the A's new organizational philosophy involves adding Viking relievers? God save us all."
"Berserkers: the new market inefficiency."
-LonestarBall
Missed the point
He was just correcting hishnik’s statement that Weeks was the highest pick we’ve had in a decade.
"Some field has fences, and sometime, the field cant hold a player, but most of the time, a field cant hold Domingo"
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and I am saying that just because he's a high pick doesn't mean he cant bust
"So, the A's new organizational philosophy involves adding Viking relievers? God save us all."
"Berserkers: the new market inefficiency."
-LonestarBall
Speaking of Weeks
What are the odds he can be a starting second baseman: versus the odds that he will not be able adjust; and transition to a fifth infielder and speedy bench player?
yes, I am voting Weeks
and yes: I am hoping the community will clarify his odds at his contribution in the show (if he makes it).
Speaking of Weeks Part II
Of course I mean Rickie Weeks. He had several shots on the Top 75 bombs (distance) for 2010 countdown MLB Network has been recently running.
"-i never said half the things i said." --Yogi Berra
I voted Ross
Of course I did for #6 prospect as well.
"-i never said half the things i said." --Yogi Berra
I know but...
Think the Brewers would notice if we swapped brothers?
"-i never said half the things i said." --Yogi Berra
Weeks has good bat speed and makes solid contact, he's just small.
He’s not a slap hitter. He could run into a few if he ever manages to stay healthy for a full season. Ryan Sweeney is an awful comp for Weeks.
Yeah.
I would bet that Weeks would have a lot more double than sweeney after a 150 games.
"Carter's 25-game hitting streak isn't any normal streak. He's 46 for 97 (.474 average) during the run, adding 16 walks and compiling 81 total bases in the process. I'm out of superlatives for what he's doing." - Kevin Goldstein
Krull!!!
The leftiness, the quality offspead pitches, the late-August reports of a 93 MPH fastball…
The monster at the end of this blog.
by grover on Dec 23, 2010 7:17 PM PST reply actions 1 recs
Nomination for Eric Sogard.
Sheer results in AAA (.379 wOBA) were better than any other A’s prospect.
He’s as much as a near lock to be something valuable in MLB, even if that something is an utility player, as anybody else in the A’s system. And, Juan Uribe, glorified utility player, just got 3/21.
by Blicks on Dec 23, 2010 7:36 PM PST reply actions 11 recs
Kinda was hoping he'd have been on already
I’ll vote for him until he’s in…
All I can say about stats is…
SCOTT BROSIUS!!
by stranahanahan on Dec 23, 2010 9:13 PM PST up reply actions
Unless his defense has, literally, tripled in quality, he won't be a utility player because he can't play anything but second with any competence
If he went from “meh” to “okay” at second base, that still makes him incapable of handling short (though he might be able to play third alright; does he have the arm for it?).
I really think “He’s as much as a near lock to be something valuable in MLB” is just not true. A meh defensive 2B who really can’t hit doesn’t have a lot of value. Again, he’s Eckstein (a year younger at every stop, but also quite a bit worse offensively), but not as good and without the ability to play short.
I guess Sogard could put up a handful of 1-1.5 WAR seasons for a while, but I’d be shocked if it’s any more than that.
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by thejd44 on Dec 24, 2010 7:37 AM PST up reply actions
I thought "meh" and "OK" are synonymous.
Which one are you saying is better than the other?
Sweet is the lore which Nature brings; / Our meddling intellect
Mis-shapes the beauteous forms of things:— / We murder to dissect.
Really? A "near lock to be something valuable"?
If that were true he should be #1 on this list, because nobody else is anything close to that.
It's because he derived his torque from the buttocks -- cityplANner
by WaddellCanseco on Dec 24, 2010 7:43 AM PST up reply actions
Nomination for Matt Thomson
I’m going to separate out the different requests this time to make it less confusing. Just rec whatever combination of them leads to one more nomination than “drop”, I guess.
Thomson has similar quality stuff and control to Krol, maybe even a bit better (fastball 89-93, two other average pitches with some room for growth), but has bettered him in strikeout numbers. He’s older, so Krol is more likely (though I wouldn’t say “likely”— it’s still something of a long shot) to make a major improvement in velocity, but the two are not very far apart.
"We don't want our people to be preoccupied with seminude, crazy men jumping up and down who are chasing an inflated object," said Sheik Mohamed Osman Arus, head of operations for the Hizbul Islam insurgent group.
by PaulThomas on Dec 23, 2010 8:29 PM PST reply actions 5 recs
Voted for Ross
Was pulling for Krol for a while in this spot, but Ross has proven himself against higher competition. Next season though, Krol could be a top prospect in this system.
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Nomination to drop Stassi
He’s still not remotely on a par with the rest of the vote targets. Krol had a great season; the others have all held their own at at least the AA level. Stassi is showing more red flags than your average Communist Party Congress (K rate, injuries to throwing shoulder, the general low success rate of high school catchers) and no positive performance track record to make up for them. He should be going in the 15-20 range (perhaps backing closer to 15 now that two guys who were better prospects have been traded away, but still)—he’s not close to the top 10 even in a system this weak.
"We don't want our people to be preoccupied with seminude, crazy men jumping up and down who are chasing an inflated object," said Sheik Mohamed Osman Arus, head of operations for the Hizbul Islam insurgent group.
by PaulThomas on Dec 23, 2010 8:45 PM PST reply actions 7 recs
Nomination to drop nobody
I think the players we have could be the A’s 7 through 12 prospects. No need to drop anyone.
by Mr. Clean Sweep on Dec 23, 2010 9:10 PM PST up reply actions 4 recs
They can't be the 7th through 12th best prospects, since there are only five of them...
"We don't want our people to be preoccupied with seminude, crazy men jumping up and down who are chasing an inflated object," said Sheik Mohamed Osman Arus, head of operations for the Hizbul Islam insurgent group.
by PaulThomas on Dec 23, 2010 11:13 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Agreed
Drop Stassi, add Sogard.
All I can say about stats is…
SCOTT BROSIUS!!
by stranahanahan on Dec 23, 2010 9:13 PM PST up reply actions
If you're voting to drop someone,
you should have two candidates to add. There will always be one new slot for the guy who wins this round. You only need to drop someone if you want to add two.
Sweet is the lore which Nature brings; / Our meddling intellect
Mis-shapes the beauteous forms of things:— / We murder to dissect.
Ah, good call
Hadn’t thought of that.
Fine, I’ll add Thomson as well…
All I can say about stats is…
SCOTT BROSIUS!!
by stranahanahan on Dec 26, 2010 9:08 PM PST up reply actions
Just to point out...
He threw out 34% of attempted base stealers, drew 45 BB in 411 AB, showed average or better power for the position, earned good reviews on his defensive skills behind the plate and was playing in a league where his opponents were 2 years older than he.
Stassi belongs in the discussion at this point of the ranking.
The monster at the end of this blog.
by grover on Dec 23, 2010 11:06 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
I think Stassi ran out of gas during the season
Catching more games than when he was in high school probably wore him down. A lot of people were impressed by him at spring training. I followed his box scores. He started the season strong but each month his batting avg went down.
by gambler on Dec 24, 2010 8:39 AM PST via mobile up reply actions
Random short-term BABIP fluctuations, as far as I can tell
There’s no pattern in it at all.
"We don't want our people to be preoccupied with seminude, crazy men jumping up and down who are chasing an inflated object," said Sheik Mohamed Osman Arus, head of operations for the Hizbul Islam insurgent group.
Ross is one of only two guys on that list who have proven themselves enough to be promoted to AAA,
and he also has the highest upside out of any player on that list.
Vote Ross.
If I had a little more faith in Ross staying healthy I'd agree.
And another thing… the A’s need to shelve any plans on slipping Ross back into their bullpen. He needs to continue to develop as a SP.
The monster at the end of this blog.
I voted Ross.
And after I did, I thought, “I probably should have this it sooner.”
We’ve seen him at the major league level, and he wasn’t half bad. That’s way more impressive than being good at AA.
The artist formerly known as HigherPie.
Voted for Ross also
Donaldson finally started catching well, and dropped his passed balls from 1 in every 6 games in Midland to 1 in every 21 games in Sacto (1/5 in 08, ftr). The bat was good too, in a typically Donaldsonish inconsistent way, but I’m not voting his goofy ass above Ross. Stuff, upside, track record…Ross is the only B prospect left in the system (setting aside Cabrera, Shipman, and Lewis whom grades are meaningless for right now; I suppose Krol might be a B- if I squint).
I only caught the tail end of the last thread. Speaking of Adrian Cardenas, did anybody notice that Omar Qunitanilla signed with Texas?
by AgitationStation on Dec 24, 2010 1:41 AM PST up reply actions
I, too, voted for Ross.
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by thejd44 on Dec 24, 2010 7:40 AM PST up reply actions
Nomination for Renato Nunez
"So, the A's new organizational philosophy involves adding Viking relievers? God save us all."
"Berserkers: the new market inefficiency."
-LonestarBall
Seems way to early for Nunez
He comes with all of the questions of a latin american prospect (16 years old, no actual competition, age concerns) and, if I remember correctly, was not considered to be among the premium latin american players available this year, dispite the 2.2 million dollar deal. (by that I mean he wasn’t one of the ‘cream of the crop’ type guys). Dispite the white belt, I think this is much to early for him. My question to those with more knowledge then me is, who is a better prospect right now, Nunez or Wilfredo Solano?
"It takes no talent to give great effort." - Chris Petersen
by pfeifer on Dec 23, 2010 10:20 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
I would think it's Solano
due to his apparent ability to draw walks and and the possibility of him staying at shortstop. But I’m interested in what others have to say
"It takes no talent to give great effort." - Chris Petersen
by pfeifer on Dec 23, 2010 10:41 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
Solano just hit .179/.314/.192 in the Dominican Summer League
I think it’s safe to characterize that money as wasted. I know it’s only 150 plate appearances, but those numbers are “take up another sport, son” terrible. Holy crap.
Nunez was graded pretty highly by BA (IIRC he was their #4, de la Cruz the #7 and Argy Raga somewhere around #20 among this year’s Latin IFA class) but that barely means anything. Trying to predict the development of 16-year-olds is a fool’s errand. None of those guys belong anywhere near this list.
"We don't want our people to be preoccupied with seminude, crazy men jumping up and down who are chasing an inflated object," said Sheik Mohamed Osman Arus, head of operations for the Hizbul Islam insurgent group.
I agree that none of them are close to top 10, or probably top 30,
but I’m not quite ready to say Solano is totally worthless. I know the odds of him even getting to, say, AA are probably about 5% or so, but a lot of latin american prospects stay in the DSL for more then one year, I believe. He’s still the equivalent of a highschool junior, and was given a hefty signing bonus. While I have absolutely no expectations that he’ll turn into a viable major leaguer, and have him no where near my top prospects list, I am willing to give him one more year. I think he still has a better chance then most DSL’ers
"It takes no talent to give great effort." - Chris Petersen
by pfeifer on Dec 23, 2010 11:57 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
Nomination for Yordy Cabrera
"So, the A's new organizational philosophy involves adding Viking relievers? God save us all."
"Berserkers: the new market inefficiency."
-LonestarBall
by Zonis on Dec 23, 2010 9:27 PM PST reply actions 2 recs
Nomination for Rashun Dixon
Seemed to develop some patience (or at least better BB numbers) and put up decent numbers in low-offense Midwestern League, while remaining super young and super toolsy.
by branch rickey on Dec 23, 2010 10:05 PM PST reply actions 2 recs
Nomination for Sogard
Go glasses!
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by cityplANner on Dec 23, 2010 10:09 PM PST reply actions 1 recs
He's already been nominated
See above.
"We don't want our people to be preoccupied with seminude, crazy men jumping up and down who are chasing an inflated object," said Sheik Mohamed Osman Arus, head of operations for the Hizbul Islam insurgent group.
Write in for Ynoa as usual. If I had to vote for one of the listed choices, I'd pick Ross
It's because he derived his torque from the buttocks -- cityplANner
Again, I don't understand why Ynoa even makes your top 15
Unless you are certain you’ll put him in exactly the same spot next year as you do now.
He has no way of improving or lowering his stock…
All I can say about stats is…
SCOTT BROSIUS!!
by stranahanahan on Dec 24, 2010 1:08 PM PST up reply actions
Voting for Ross. If he gets his 3rd pitch to improve and can get his mechanics fixed he's a legit starter
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I voted for Donaldson. He's better than you think!
He’s made as much progress as Ross (cup of coffee in the bigs) and he isn’t a career ending arm injury waiting to happen.
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I've never been more frustrated by a Community Prospect List
The fact that past #s 1 & 2 no one has won more than 50% of the vote means our system is either really deep or shallow. Unfortunately, it’s the latter.
I think if each of us were to post our top 15, there would be multiple lists where some guys would be at 15 in one list and 4 or 5 in another…
All I can say about stats is…
SCOTT BROSIUS!!
5 Minor League teams made the play-offs
And all A’s affiliates ended over .500
The fact that the likes of Parker, Sogard, Donaldson and Cardenas aren’t high on the radar of mainstream prospect lists, doesn’t mean the system is bad. It’s not great, sure, but almost everybody seems focussed on lottery upside and whoever was drafted in the first 3 rounds of this or last year’s draft, so they can reprint some lame high school scouting reports. The most dramatic example being this year’s fangraphs list.
I’d rather have the likes of Tolleson, Cramer and Mortensen in tripple A, than a Yordi Cabrera or a Max Stassi in low A ball.

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