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End of an Era -- Eric Chavez' option declined. Crisp, Ellis picked up.

BBG: I wanted everyone to read this. Thanks mikev!

Here's a link from Slusser yesterday at SFGate

 

So, in case you hadn't caught wind of it yet, or hadn't read BBG's post about the Cy Young yesterday, you may not have heard yet about three A's players who had option years for 2011, and the decisions made by the team.

Star-divide

 

Coco Crisp had a $5.75 Million option, which combined with his $5.25 Million last season (Cots) makes it a no brainer.  Crisp's 3.3 WAR 2010 season  was worth $13 Million according to Fangraphs, making the 2011 option year basically playing with house money.  I think it's a good deal, especially if Crisp manages to stop breaking his fingers.  Also, he's got the best hair on the team since Bobby Kielty.  The 'fro needs to stay.

 

Mark Ellis also had his $6 Million option picked up by the team.  Based on one of the best defensive seasons of his career by UZR and an absolutely nuclear month of September when he hit .405/.453/.534 and raised his overall season figure to a respectable .281/.358/.381.  That's a .326 wOBA for those of you watching from home, just slightly below league average, and combined with his stellar defense, Ellis used his magical unicorn powers to the tune of 3.3 WAR or $12.9 Million in value (Fangraphs).  There's been a mixed bag of feelings on the Ellis option, where some feel that Adam Rosales could equal Mark's production at a fraction of the cost, allowing the A's to use that money to pursue other free agents.  Me, personally, I don't mind it.  While there's no guarantee that Ellis will be "worth" $6M in 2011, and there are likely other options who could equal his production and would be cheaper, I like the guy.  Sometimes it's OK to want a guy to stay just because you like him.  That said, I'm pretty sure Ellis is capable of a 1.5 WAR season.

 

Signing him to an extension, though?  I'm not so sure about that one, unless it's REALLY cheap.

 

So I'm saving this other one for last, on purpose.


Eric Chavez - perhaps you've heard of him?  Frank "Home Run" Baker aside, Chavy is probably the best third baseman in the history of the Oakland Athletics.  Yes, injury derailed his career.  Yes, we all knew that there was very little chance that his $12.5 Million option would be picked up, as he's only appeared in 64 games over the past three seasons.  That said, even though we all knew it was coming, it kinda sucks to see a guy who was on his way to being one of the best Athletics ever end his time with the team with such a whimper.  After multiple seasons of frustration hoping that he'd be healthy, wishing that the A's would do something about the black hole at the hot corner, and wondering if Chavy would ever actually come back and contribute, we've got our answer finally:  No.

 

So, let's send him off properly.  I'm sure the AN Chicks will repeatedly post THAT ONE PIC with him in the sunglasses or whatever.  Share your stories, thank him for the good years, piss and moan because we kept Chavez over Tejada (really, seriously, it was the right move.  Seriously.)  Whatever you want.  Get it out, because Chavez was one of my favorite Athletics of all time, and now he's not.   Here, I'll start:


Bye, Chavy.  Thanks for the memories.  I'm going to miss defending you, defending the team's choice to sign you instead of Miggy, watching you pick it at third like no other player I've seen, and your sometimes brutal honesty with the media.  Please don't sign with another team and further break yourself.  Take Carney's old job at CSN or something and enjoy your career after playing.


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I almost re-ran this today, mikev.

Here’s my goodbye to one of my favorite A’s ever.

I'm here to talk about the past.

by 67MARQUEZ on Nov 4, 2010 10:17 AM PDT reply actions  

Huh, one of the sentences you wrote really hit me today when I re-read it.
My first thought- even though clearly nothing is set in stone- was, “Why isn’t this bigger news?”

That totally applies right now. It’s like nobody gives a damn all of a sudden. This shouldn’t be a friggin footnote.

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by mikev on Nov 4, 2010 10:20 AM PDT up reply actions   2 recs

agreed.

I'm here to talk about the past.

by 67MARQUEZ on Nov 4, 2010 10:25 AM PDT up reply actions  

+1

I have up on him after 2009. We all even joked about him being a zombie since 2008.

Plus his salary was a large reason why we werent contending these last 3 years, I dont want to see his career here in a negative light and would rather look at it like we paid him for him he was awesome, but these last 3.5 years have stung. That’s money we could have used on a better player tied up with Chavez. Plus the whole send-down-Cust-even-though-he-was-better-than-Chavez thing that happened his year.

But if i blindly look at his career up until 2007, I say goodnight sweet prince. Lets leave it at that.

by PL78 on Nov 5, 2010 12:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

That's part of the crapshoot

Here you’ve got a guy with all the potential in the world as a hitter, who’s the best fielding third baseman in the game, so you sign him. In retrospect, four years of Tejada would’ve been a much better deal, moving Crosby to third where he could flunk out faster.

But that’s in retrospect.

I mean, if you’re the Giants, do you try to hold on to Lincecum when he’s ready and give him a multi-year, or do you let a team like the Yankees pick him up, then possibly eat the final three years of his contract? it’s always a crapshoot.

by richwol1 on Nov 5, 2010 10:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

I think it's not bigger news because...

…it was so obvious for such a long time.

Billy Beane... What have you done for me lately?

by UncleLeo on Nov 4, 2010 1:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

His career died the way a lot of people die now

Slowly, a step at a time, and connected to various life support machines.

Compassion fatigue sets in after a time, as a psychological defense mechanism if nothing else.

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by PaulThomas on Nov 5, 2010 2:29 AM PDT up reply actions  

Agreed

It’s not like it isn’t a big thing. Far from it, it’s a very big thing. It’s just the emotional pull has been spread out over a several years instead of the shock of the surprise end that causes your heart to drop where you feel it all at once.

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by DMOAS on Nov 5, 2010 10:56 AM PDT up reply actions  

Well said

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by elcroata on Nov 5, 2010 12:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

Thank You Chavy

I will miss, and have already missed, watching you play 3B. Definitely, the most amazing third baseman that I’ve seen play. I can remember being in awe so many times. Especially early in your career, your offense was great, and it was always great to have that threat in the lineup. But, the play at 3B is your legacy and I will never forget it. Thank you for those memories!

by longtimeasfan on Nov 4, 2010 10:21 AM PDT reply actions  

Another thing

Another thing that strikes me about this news is just solidifying the end of a certain era of the A’s. In my mind, there are 3 clear eras of teams that are recognizable as the A’s and where the A’S had extended success. The early-mid 70s, the Bash Brother teams – late 80s-early 90s, and the team of the late 90s early 2000s. Chavy is really the last of the headliners of that late 90-s early 2000 team to leave. I know Ellis was part of those teams, but was not really seen as one of the faces at that time.

So, it is sad, but I am now looking forward as well to our current team creating their own persona and own legacy – with Anderson, Cahill, Gio, Barton, and hopefully a few more of the younger guys such as Carter will be included. Its still too early for this team to be seen in that but that is what I’m hoping for, and I see a nucleus that could potentially get there.

by longtimeasfan on Nov 4, 2010 10:37 AM PDT up reply actions  

I Agree

They were a legacy. But maybe it’s time to stop clinging to the past and accept the present. Perhaps there will be a repeat. We have something here with Zook and Cahill, Gio and Anderson, so we may have the next Oakland legacy. Still, we’ll miss you Chavez.

by Oakland All-Star on Nov 4, 2010 10:41 AM PDT up reply actions  

True

It is time to move on, and for the team, this was absolutely the right move.

However, I do hope that if OR when Chavy retires that the A’s offer to bring him in as a Fielding Instructor and I hope he accepts. I think he can offer a lot and that it would be great to keep him invlved in the organization.

by longtimeasfan on Nov 4, 2010 10:46 AM PDT up reply actions  

Beane said that he'd always have a job within the organization.

I think I read that Chavy is thinking about going into TV if he doesn’t play for anyone. And what do you know? CSN has an opening for a game analyst.

by LoneStranger on Nov 4, 2010 10:52 AM PDT up reply actions  

What about his company, Diego Bats?

He has a couple of players using his bats. He could boost his marketing efforts…

Heh heh, if he was the “game analyst” his answer could always be,

Well, Detroit (Kansas City, San Diego, ad nauseum) are juuust not hitting!! It could be the bats!

I’ve seen it time and again! When players switch to Diego Bats, the hits just flooow! Home runs? Like a fireworks display…!!

Officially awaiting the 2011 MLB season

by One won lost won on Nov 4, 2010 8:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

Eric Chavez= Robert Evans?

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by Gaijin_Suketto on Nov 5, 2010 1:35 AM PDT up reply actions  

Gold Gloves? Mmm, yeah, there’s a few on my mantle.
Injuries? Boy….Ive had my fair share.
Would I do it all again? You bet your life.

by PL78 on Nov 5, 2010 12:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

-

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SeFiXnEBvBg

"I wasn't able to extend so I had a serious lack of extension."--Dallas Braden

by StJosephBurningTheOakTreesToTheGround on Nov 5, 2010 3:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

-

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OmRA2bx6S6I

"I wasn't able to extend so I had a serious lack of extension."--Dallas Braden

by StJosephBurningTheOakTreesToTheGround on Nov 5, 2010 3:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

Third base coach.

You don’t see this brough up a lot, but dude knew how to run the bases. Wasn’t a speedster, but he ran smart. I always bring this up, but in one of those early-season games against the Indians, the one where we blew them out at the Coliseum, I watched this guy score from first, already kind of limping, on either a deep single or a short double, because he knew right off the bat that it was dropping. He actually almost caught up with the dude ahead of him and had to slow down as they reached home plate.

"I wasn't able to extend so I had a serious lack of extension."--Dallas Braden

by StJosephBurningTheOakTreesToTheGround on Nov 5, 2010 8:24 AM PDT up reply actions  

I don't think his arm can move in a circle

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by Future Ed on Nov 5, 2010 10:50 AM PDT up reply actions  

heh

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by elcroata on Nov 5, 2010 12:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

His reflexes...

…would also probably cause him to leap at every screaming line drive down the 3B line.

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by UncleLeo on Nov 5, 2010 12:31 PM PDT up reply actions  

Zook?

We have a 5-WAR first baseman, one of the best shortstops in baseball, one of the better DHs in baseball, and a guy who, given a few healthy seasons in an A’s uniform, could be the best center fielder in franchise history.

I don’t who these Zook, Gio, and Cahill guys are, but I like this team already.

"I wasn't able to extend so I had a serious lack of extension."--Dallas Braden

by StJosephBurningTheOakTreesToTheGround on Nov 5, 2010 8:20 AM PDT up reply actions  

Zook?

That’s a nickname for the A’s best hitter in 2009. :)

by barryzitoforever on Nov 5, 2010 3:46 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions  

Definitely my favorite player.

He represented the 98-2004 A’s to me, moreso than any other player.

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by lenscrafters on Nov 4, 2010 10:25 AM PDT reply actions  

ditto

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by ak_A on Nov 5, 2010 5:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

My wife is the same way

she always wanted tickets on the 3rd base side to see Chavez.

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by micdog2001 on Nov 4, 2010 12:56 PM PDT up reply actions  

That was the main reason my friend always asked me to buy tickets on the 3B side

She liked to watch Chavvy’s ass as he played 3B.

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by grover on Nov 4, 2010 1:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

What a Shame

Chavy was my all-time favorite player. Him, along with Ellis and Duke were the only reminders of the old days.
Well, here’s my good-bye:
Good-bye Chavy. You were fantastic. I loved watching you play, watching star at third and at the plate, adding fun to to the team and clubhouse. You kept it loose, you were gritty and determined, and a real leader. You were the heart of this team. Good-bye.

by Oakland All-Star on Nov 4, 2010 10:39 AM PDT reply actions  

one play I'll never forget

against Texas late in the season, maybe 2007. Texas had a late inning rally with either bases loaded or runners at the corner, one one. Someone hit a smash to third, Chavez picked it, tagged Michael Young trying to get back to the bag and threw to first for the double play and it was beautiful. Classic Chavez. I’ve missed him already and will miss the yearly tease of hoping against hope he’ll be back. Best of luck to him.

by my_cat_max on Nov 4, 2010 11:15 AM PDT reply actions  

I think of that one often

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by Future Ed on Nov 4, 2010 12:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

I remember that play exactly.

I’ve actually always tried to find a video of that play and never could, it was such a great play.

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by winchester5 on Nov 4, 2010 12:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

I was going to post about that play too.

Brilliant. As mentioned above, I’ve tried to find the video, but never could.

It was like all in one motion. He scooped the ball right along the base line, and tagged out the runner who was trying to reverse his momentum and ended up sliding/falling back to 3rd base. Chavez put the glove on him as he was jumping over the baserunner, turned and gunned to 1st.

Or something. I might have fudged the details, because I can’t figure out why the runner on 3rd was trying to get back to the bag.

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by Elvez on Nov 4, 2010 2:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

Instinct to get to a safe place?

if he strays out to far he is out. he likely felt that it would take a great play to get him out. He was right

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by Future Ed on Nov 4, 2010 2:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

I can't find it.

Was it in September?

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by Future Ed on Nov 4, 2010 6:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

The Rangers were in Oakland Aug 7-9 (Mon-Wed) that year.

But I just checked play-by-play for all three games and there’s no play matching the description.

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by iglew on Nov 5, 2010 2:36 AM PDT up reply actions  

I think

it was earlier in the season, maybe in May. I know Esteban Loaiza was on the mound when it happened. I think it was when he was still horrible, before he went on the DL.

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by Kelly on Nov 5, 2010 4:54 AM PDT up reply actions  

Or maybe it was right after he came off the DL.

I do know it was Loaiza though. I remember him fist pumping after the play because Chavvy saved his ass.

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by Kelly on Nov 5, 2010 4:55 AM PDT up reply actions  

I FOUND IT!

It was actually August in Texas. August 7, 2006 to be exact.

Look at play-by-play, top of the 4th inning. Double play FC at 3B, runner out at 1B.

http://www.baseball-reference.com/boxes/OAK/OAK200608070.shtml

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by Kelly on Nov 5, 2010 5:11 AM PDT up reply actions  

hopefully this will work

video

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by Future Ed on Nov 5, 2010 6:54 AM PDT up reply actions  

How did you find that?

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by travdog6 on Nov 5, 2010 9:21 AM PDT up reply actions  

I ended up googling

“august 7, 2006 mlb oakland A’s”

With the stuff from this year you can go to mlb.com, click on scoreboard> then select “select date” which is at the top of the page next to “todays games”

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by Future Ed on Nov 5, 2010 10:58 AM PDT up reply actions  

Good job

I was about to try my PxP DB for it

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by elcroata on Nov 5, 2010 12:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

The Swisher part almost got me more than the Chavy part.

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by StJosephBurningTheOakTreesToTheGround on Nov 5, 2010 3:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

agreed

I thought Swisher was great at 1st. Someone could find some UZR or some kind of ratings for swish at 1st. I thought he played great there, although my eyes aren’t calibrated for defensive quality.

by barryzitoforever on Nov 5, 2010 3:51 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions  

Sigh.....

I will miss you Chavvy! Thanks so much.

by luvsmrZ on Nov 5, 2010 6:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

Thank you.How spoiled were we guys?

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by tealkegkilla on Nov 5, 2010 2:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

Well done.

I remember looking at that same game, but I was only watching for Michael Young. I should have known better and checked all double plays.

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by iglew on Nov 5, 2010 2:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

yes, the 7th was a monday

I remember it well.

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by Future Ed on Nov 5, 2010 3:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

Thanks Chavez!

Class act on and off the field. Best wishes on your future andyou will always be an Athletic to most of the fans.

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by Ovale Fan on Nov 4, 2010 11:19 AM PDT reply actions  

Accepting the reality of Chavvy being done is hard

This has always been a day i knew would come, but it doesn’t make it any easier. In my lifetime, I have never seen a third baseman who handled the glove quite like Eric Chavez did in his career. And when he was healthy, he had a lethal bat, with amazing opposite field power.

Like Oakland Si stated above, I used to get my seats on the third base side just to watch Chavez play the hot corner and it was a thing of beauty….
Indeed, it is a sad day for A’s fans and I sincerely hope that Eric decides to stick with the A;s organization in some capacity, or like many have mentioned, taking the place of Carney Lansford in the CSN studios in 2001.

I really don’t want to see him in another uniform as was being suggested by Susan Slusser’s Tweet…..it would just not be right. It would be like watching your ex dating your brother. Anyways, thanks for all the great memories and we will always love you Chavvy!

Go A’s!

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by mrod on Nov 4, 2010 11:44 AM PDT reply actions  

Agree

I also would prefer that he not play for another team. I like the fact, that he, different from many others, to now has only been an A. Obviously, he has to do what is best for him, but I hope that it is to retire and stay with the organization in some capacity.

by longtimeasfan on Nov 4, 2010 11:54 AM PDT up reply actions  

LOL
I think it’s a good deal, especially if Crisp manages to stop breaking his fingers.

This sentence made me laugh. Here’s hopin!

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by MissOakland on Nov 4, 2010 11:46 AM PDT reply actions  

On a serious note

I feel like I definitely lost out. I’ve seen highlights and I know he has the Gold Gloves but I came too late. I never got see the Chavvy magic at the hot corner. Kinda sucks (a lot)

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by MissOakland on Nov 4, 2010 11:49 AM PDT up reply actions  

Watch that video someone posted above. Classic Chavy.

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by StJosephBurningTheOakTreesToTheGround on Nov 5, 2010 8:36 AM PDT up reply actions  

there is another great play in that game by Eric

I love him
i miss him

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by Future Ed on Nov 5, 2010 11:00 AM PDT up reply actions  

And he loves you.

Eric Chavez will always be with us. He surrounds us, he penetrates us, he binds the Coliseum together. Kind of like Rickey Henderson.

"I wasn't able to extend so I had a serious lack of extension."--Dallas Braden

by StJosephBurningTheOakTreesToTheGround on Nov 5, 2010 11:45 AM PDT up reply actions  

I do hope he retires and has a ceremony at the Coli

never really got to send him off because he was always “coming back”

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by MissOakland on Nov 5, 2010 2:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

Can anyone find that play where...

Chavvy made a running catch like a football reciever towards the bullpen mound, and Fosse said, “give him the gold glove right now.” ? And I think it was in April or May.

by barryzitoforever on Nov 5, 2010 3:54 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions  

Didn't Fosse say that after every play he made?

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by DMOAS on Nov 5, 2010 3:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

True grit.

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by StJosephBurningTheOakTreesToTheGround on Nov 5, 2010 4:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

what are wew

your monkees now?

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by Future Ed on Nov 5, 2010 4:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

I'm sorry you never got to watch him play Miss Oakland

You would have been in love!

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by mrod on Nov 4, 2010 11:52 AM PDT up reply actions  

I guess I'll have to rely on MLB highlights

Better than nothing, right?

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by MissOakland on Nov 4, 2010 11:54 AM PDT up reply actions  

If Crisp breaks a finger tweeting this offseason, I'm gonna explode!

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by Gaijin_Suketto on Nov 5, 2010 1:37 AM PDT up reply actions  

Shhh

dont jinx it!!

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by MissOakland on Nov 5, 2010 2:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

As much as we loved Chavez he never put up an MVP quality season (6 WAR)

he was what he was, an All Star quality player who got hurt and ruined his career. Yes its the end of an era, but Chavez didn’t really lead any of the teams except 2005 (before then you had players like Tejada and Giambi and in 2006 you had the Big Hurt). He is the longest tenured player but when I think of the great A’s teams that I grew up with I don’t think of him in the first handful of players who defined the era, even though hes the one that staid. Its sad and we loved them but there is a reason he isn’t getting the fanfare that some expect.

As for my part Ill remember Chavez for just being able to pick it at third.

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by designatedforassignment on Nov 4, 2010 11:50 AM PDT reply actions  

Had he not been derailed by injury, who knows what he what have done.....

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by mrod on Nov 4, 2010 11:51 AM PDT up reply actions  

He was on that level in 2004 (5.5 WAR in 125 games).

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by lenscrafters on Nov 4, 2010 12:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

that was the year he broke something getting hit with a pitch right?

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by designatedforassignment on Nov 4, 2010 12:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

His hand, yes.

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by mikev on Nov 4, 2010 12:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

See mike, you won;t have to miss defending him

Per Fangraphs WAR 1999-2003

Chavez-18.3
Tejada- 14.4

I agree the definition of “lead” is subjective, but Chavez was a better player than Tejada.

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by Future Ed on Nov 4, 2010 12:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

I wasn't talking about that kind of leadership

but if i was and you look at Tejada’s number its heavily influenced by his defense which TZ rates much better than UZR. If

What we’re asking is for people to stop pretending that ipse dixit counts as a "source." When you make a claim about baseball, you should be willing to put some reasonable amount of effort into explaining why it’s correct if someone asks you to. That’s basic respect for the other poster. - PT

by designatedforassignment on Nov 4, 2010 12:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

we will never forget

Tejada screaming in front of the dugout.

Good times

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by Future Ed on Nov 4, 2010 12:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

I remember him jumping like the rally monkey.

Rally Miggy. Good times.

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by iglew on Nov 5, 2010 2:38 AM PDT up reply actions  

huh

so baseball reference has

Chavez 20.5
Tejada 21.4

So since I am rounding to the nearest number 21 for both! smiley face.

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by Future Ed on Nov 4, 2010 12:53 PM PDT up reply actions  

hahahahahahhaha

yeah I think Chavez probably was slightly better than Tejada, but I liked Miggy more.

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by designatedforassignment on Nov 4, 2010 1:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

speaking of brutal honesty...

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by cuppingmaster on Nov 4, 2010 1:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

do you really expect anything else from me?

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by designatedforassignment on Nov 4, 2010 1:55 PM PDT up reply actions  

no, I just thought it was ironic how the brutally honest player is rated by one of the most brutally honest people here

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by cuppingmaster on Nov 4, 2010 1:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

Was he really that brutally honest though?

Im mean basically he lied about every injury he had for a decade. How is that brutally honest?

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by designatedforassignment on Nov 4, 2010 2:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

I think he always assumed his body would recover faster than it truly could

I can’t think of something he straight up said off the top of my head, but I’m sure slusser could dig a few up if she’s following this thread.

(turns on slusser signal)

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by cuppingmaster on Nov 4, 2010 2:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

He lied for months about his neck for sure.

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by designatedforassignment on Nov 4, 2010 2:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

Should have been more clear, I meant digging up an example of the brutal honesty

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by cuppingmaster on Nov 4, 2010 2:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

oh i think he was pretty straight forward about the state of the team.

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by designatedforassignment on Nov 4, 2010 2:56 PM PDT up reply actions  

Thanks for bringing me to the A's, Chavy

I grew up in New England. You were my favorite non-Red Sox player. And when I moved out here in ’05, you made it really easy for me to switch teams. Wish I had been paying more attention during your glory years.

Why don't you make like a tree, and get out of here.

by thelincolndude on Nov 4, 2010 12:20 PM PDT reply actions  

We gotta get more Chavys.

Maybe Daric Barton is converting Red Sox fans as we speak.

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by StJosephBurningTheOakTreesToTheGround on Nov 5, 2010 8:38 AM PDT up reply actions  

Daric would actually be a great candidate for that

So easy to like. Hopefully he gets a little more power and sticks around for a good long while.

Why don't you make like a tree, and get out of here.

by thelincolndude on Nov 5, 2010 10:16 AM PDT up reply actions  

Dale and Dallas.

They should have like a talk show when the A’s finally wise up and buy the assets of CSNBA for an in-house television channel.

“That’s all the time we have for the Dale and Dallas show, so for Daric Barton and all of us here at Athletics Sports Network, get off my mound!”

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by StJosephBurningTheOakTreesToTheGround on Nov 5, 2010 11:48 AM PDT up reply actions  

OMFG

YES.

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by MissOakland on Nov 5, 2010 2:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

The one contract of the great players we had went to Chavez

Bad one Billy Beane

Bad pick Peyton "Regular Season" Manning!!!

by Athletic on Nov 4, 2010 12:28 PM PDT reply actions  

His first extension was brilliant and basically paid for the second one.

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by designatedforassignment on Nov 4, 2010 12:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

(and it was the right choice)

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by Future Ed on Nov 4, 2010 12:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

totally agree

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by designatedforassignment on Nov 4, 2010 1:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

Very sad day indeed

It’s going to be a while before we see someone of Chavvy’s talent and ability to frustrate. In his early years it seemed like just a matter of time before he left his All-Star level and became other-worldly, but it never happened and the injuries sapped any last chance of it happening. He was/is/will be my favorite player, probably to the end of my days, and for it to be (officially) over sucks big time.

The only thing left to do is to make Rickey the bench coach and Chavvy the infield/something else coach.

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by Helloooo 1st on Nov 4, 2010 12:42 PM PDT reply actions  

For me, that's why he epitomizes those early 2000 A's.

So much potential, so close to realizing it, but for one reason or another, it never happened.

"We were shit, pathetic," Guillen growled early in spring training. "We hit too many home runs."

by lenscrafters on Nov 4, 2010 12:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

True

But, I think its important that his accomplishments and importance to the team not be understated because he did not meet certain high expectations. I know you are not doing this but I think sometimes there is a tendency to think about “what could have been” and not appreciate what he was. Even though he did not reach some of those highs that were expected , he had amazing seasons for this team and is one our all-time greats

by longtimeasfan on Nov 4, 2010 12:56 PM PDT up reply actions  

Good points.

"We were shit, pathetic," Guillen growled early in spring training. "We hit too many home runs."

by lenscrafters on Nov 4, 2010 1:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

And I'll take him over Home Run Baker.

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by StJosephBurningTheOakTreesToTheGround on Nov 5, 2010 8:39 AM PDT up reply actions  

Bench coach?

Rickey for manager.

"I wasn't able to extend so I had a serious lack of extension."--Dallas Braden

by StJosephBurningTheOakTreesToTheGround on Nov 5, 2010 8:39 AM PDT up reply actions  

You're mad if you think Geren will be replaced

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by Helloooo 1st on Nov 6, 2010 2:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

Mad as in angry.

And yes, I am. But not because I think Geren will be replaced. Because I know he won’t.

"I wasn't able to extend so I had a serious lack of extension."--Dallas Braden

by StJosephBurningTheOakTreesToTheGround on Nov 6, 2010 7:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

LOL

Choosy Feebas choose Leopold Bloom nipples

Daring. Sensual. Invigorating. Squirrel.
BLOOM. For men.

If the eggs actually hatch I made more than a mistake, I made some scientifically impossible crime.

by DMOAS on Nov 6, 2010 9:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

He was my favorite A.

This is a very sad, yet expected, day.

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by Future Ed on Nov 4, 2010 12:54 PM PDT reply actions  

Elly has kind of replaced him for me over the past couple of years,

but, yes. It is sad. I’m not sure I can handle him playing for somebody else.

(thanks, mikey!)

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by lynnzgal on Nov 4, 2010 1:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

Likewise.

Ellis’ option getting picked up is comforting. When I lived in Kansas, I knew about A’s players via box score or the Triple Play and High Heat PC game series. Ellis was one of those guys who did crazy numbers for me when I would play those games (because I never played as another team.)

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by StJosephBurningTheOakTreesToTheGround on Nov 5, 2010 8:42 AM PDT up reply actions  

Chavy...

man I’ll miss him. Makes me so sad to see him go out this way. 62 games in the last 3 seasons? :‘( I guess they’re going to break up mine and my bff’s dreamteam. Super happy about Ellis though..he’s mah boy…what a season for him! I hope he can somewhat replicate it and not digress terribly.

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by mssjsclowie29 on Nov 4, 2010 12:56 PM PDT reply actions  

Favorite Chavy memories

Making the fould ball catch while sliding into the dugout

Hitting an absolute BOMB against the White Sox in Chicago

  At least he got to play a few games last season and hit one more HR in a green & gold uni (unless they were wearing black that day).

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by micdog2001 on Nov 4, 2010 1:28 PM PDT reply actions  

HR in Chicago

I so was watching that on TV. The cameraman couldn’t even find it until the end of its flight, just over the concourse and below the scoreboard. Easily one of the most impressive HRs I’ve seen.

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by cuppingmaster on Nov 4, 2010 1:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

green

here

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by Future Ed on Nov 4, 2010 1:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

I love it

When Chavy reached second base, he slowed down like he was thinking, “Did that really go out, or am I dreaming?”.

Now there's nothing left to say, so let's go drink beer.

by doctorK on Nov 4, 2010 4:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

Why does that link go to Barton hitting a single against the Rangers for me?

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by mikev on Nov 4, 2010 5:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

same here

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by designatedforassignment on Nov 4, 2010 5:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

sorry guys, it was right when I copied it.

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by Future Ed on Nov 4, 2010 6:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

thats not the first time i've seen that happen with mlb.com links

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by mikev on Nov 4, 2010 11:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

thanks ozzz

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by tealkegkilla on Nov 5, 2010 3:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

That recap video is bittersweet.

On the one hand, it’s an exciting ballgame with a lot of teAses that actually worked out, and reminds me of how stoked I was in April and May and early June (SO nice to see us beat the Rangers.) On the other hand, it just hammers home how sad the rest of the year was.

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by StJosephBurningTheOakTreesToTheGround on Nov 5, 2010 8:49 AM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah, that catch he made sliding into the dugout against the Braves was classic. In fact, they showed that game on Classic Games on CSNCA a few weeks ago. Chavy made those tough plays (i.e. field a slow roller bare handed and throw in one motion) look so easy. It was awesome seeing him play Gold Glove defense every day….

by drthunder005 on Nov 5, 2010 12:47 AM PDT up reply actions  

Dollar Wednesday at the Coliseum

I was at a game, I’d guess in 2002, and sitting in the 3rd deck on a dollar Wednesday against the Mariners. Bottom of the 9th, tie game, huge crowd, Chavvy hit a walk off to the opposite field. He had some really impressive opposite field hits.

by barryzitoforever on Nov 5, 2010 3:59 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions  

Well you know what Pete Rose says about opposite field home runs:

steroids.

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by StJosephBurningTheOakTreesToTheGround on Nov 5, 2010 4:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

I didn't know Pete said that!

I love opposite field power. I hope that doesn’t mean I love steroids. I love almost all hits to the opposite field, I think it leads to high batting averages. Of course lately I have learned that batting average can be overrated. Without falling back into some of the same arguments of other posts, I believe that good hitters take outside pitches the other way, and this leads to better hitting. Of course I am biased, I hit left handed, and in the Bay Area Men’s Senior Baseball League, I hit a lot of balls the other way. the first guy I decided was my “favorite player” was Rod Carew. And to watch him swat pitches into left was a thing of beauty. Then later in life I saw Tony Gwynn do the same thing and he bacame my fave. I think watching an Ichiro AB is about the most enjoyable AB in baseball.

by barryzitoforever on Nov 5, 2010 5:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

I think Pete is wrong,

and that’s not actually what he said, to be honest. He said opp-field HRs are a manifestation of steroids, bandboxes, and a diluted talent pool of pitchers. He talks about having played with some of the great HR hitters of all time (which is true), and says he can’t remember seeing any of them—Hank Aaron, etc.—hit an opp-field HR.

"I wasn't able to extend so I had a serious lack of extension."--Dallas Braden

by StJosephBurningTheOakTreesToTheGround on Nov 6, 2010 2:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

I guess Pete Rose is not a credible witness

I found a list of opposite field homers, looks like Aaron did go the other way 10% of the time, and that Clemente went the other way 53% of the time, more than anyone in history. I guess Pete is not a credible witness, but when I stopped to think about it, there was no sportscenter, there was no baseball tonight, if Pete Rose was playing, he got to see probably only the game he was at. But it looks like most of his peers were averaging something like 10% of their homers the other way even in the 60s so I’m sort of surprised by his claim. Here is the link:

http://baseballanalysts.com/archives/2009/04/alltime_home_ru.php

by barryzitoforever on Nov 8, 2010 11:47 AM PST up reply actions  

If the A's buy KTRB, I'm hoping that one of the new programs will be The Eric Chavez Variety Hour

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by Englishmajor on Nov 4, 2010 1:33 PM PDT reply actions  

markellis...!

(its one word, you know)

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by lynnzgal on Nov 4, 2010 1:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

I hope Chavez retires as an Oakland A

The monster at the end of this blog.

by grover on Nov 4, 2010 1:39 PM PDT reply actions   1 recs

Also

What shouldn’t be forgotten is that Eric played through the injuries earlier in his career which eventually lead to the bigger injuries here at the end. Sure it was foolish to play through them but it showed what kind of player he was and how much he cared about his team. He literally gave up his body for the team and sacrificed the rest of the career in the process.

Foolish, but admirable.

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by Helloooo 1st on Nov 4, 2010 1:54 PM PDT reply actions  

Top memory

2003 ALDS game 1: Harden pitching in the top of the 12th, and he manages to load the bases. Kapler hits a bullet to 3rd, Chavvy scoops it and runs to 3rd for the force.

After getting on base by via FC, and then getting to 3rd, Chavvy scores the winning run on the walkoff bunt. As he’s crossing the plate, he raises his fists in the air.

Bye, Chavvy. Please do us all favor and retire as an A. If you must play, please don’t play for the following teams (ranked in order of how bad it would suck if you played for said team):

Giants
Angels
Red Sox
Yankees

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by cuppingmaster on Nov 4, 2010 1:56 PM PDT reply actions  

That's one of my favorite Chavy memories, too.

That play tends to get forgotten because of Rrrramon’s heroics, but it was seriously amazing.

by whiteshoes40 on Nov 4, 2010 3:18 PM PDT up reply actions  

Also, don't play for the Rangers.

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by StJosephBurningTheOakTreesToTheGround on Nov 5, 2010 8:50 AM PDT up reply actions  

eh, it's hard to hate them

And they actually need a real 3Bman. I could see them going after Beltre.

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by cuppingmaster on Nov 5, 2010 10:53 AM PDT up reply actions  

It is sooooooooo easy for me to hate them.

They’re just another slegnA to me now.

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by StJosephBurningTheOakTreesToTheGround on Nov 5, 2010 11:48 AM PDT up reply actions  

their TV and radio guys aren't that bad

Hudler and the Rally Monkey cemented the slegnA hate for me. And irrational Mike Scoscia love. But mostly Hudler.

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by cuppingmaster on Nov 5, 2010 12:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

Texas is mostly hatable because, well, it's Texas

But there’s only so far you can go in pinning the sins of the state on a baseball team.

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by PaulThomas on Nov 5, 2010 2:18 PM PDT up reply actions  

Well there's the whole Frank Francisco incident

But that’s kinda ancient history.

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by vignette17 on Nov 5, 2010 2:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

Also, because they're the Rangers.

And because in a couple years, they’re going to be just like the slegnA were post-2002.

"I wasn't able to extend so I had a serious lack of extension."--Dallas Braden

by StJosephBurningTheOakTreesToTheGround on Nov 5, 2010 3:25 PM PDT up reply actions  

yes, the state of Texas is entirely different matter

Perfectly hatable, I’d agree.

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by cuppingmaster on Nov 5, 2010 8:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

I'd be surprised if they go after Beltre.

Is Young retiring or something? Beltre would be better, but you know how dumb people are.

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by StJosephBurningTheOakTreesToTheGround on Nov 5, 2010 11:49 AM PDT up reply actions  

no, but the whole world saw

that he’s not a good defensive 3b. the ole’ against the yankees was brutal. don’t know how all that would shake out though if they signed beltre

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by flipgatey3 on Nov 5, 2010 12:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

heh

move young to catcher

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by Future Ed on Nov 5, 2010 12:56 PM PDT up reply actions  

More likely right field

For whatever reason, they don’t seem interested in giving David Murphy a full-time job, and Julio Borbon looks pretty bust-tacular right now.

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by PaulThomas on Nov 5, 2010 2:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

Why?

They bumped him over for Elvis Andrus…

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by PaulThomas on Nov 5, 2010 6:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

and alex rodriguez

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by Future Ed on Nov 5, 2010 7:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

Dear Chavy,

You’ve always been one of my favorite players, mostly because of your fantastical defense. It’s been hard watching you struggle to continue playing over the last few years, but it would hurt so, so much more to see you wear another team’s uniform. Please don’t try to play for another team. Let your body recover. Join CSNCA, bring some intelligence to the broadcasts, and stay with the A’s forever. We love you.

And it wouldn’t be a Chavy thread without:

Also: Ellis! ♥

by whiteshoes40 on Nov 4, 2010 3:27 PM PDT reply actions   1 recs

Omigosh!

THIS!

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by lynnzgal on Nov 4, 2010 3:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

It always hurts more when it happens than you expect.

We’ve known this moment was coming for years, but it’s still killin me. One of my favorite all time A’s.

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by travdog6 on Nov 4, 2010 3:59 PM PDT reply actions  

Thanks, Eric, for giving us all you had

And I echo the sentiment that we wish you would retire as an A.

Now there's nothing left to say, so let's go drink beer.

by doctorK on Nov 4, 2010 4:02 PM PDT reply actions  

Yes to everything everyone already said better than I could say it

You’ll be missed, Mr. Chavez. Best of luck after baseball.

by mk on Nov 4, 2010 4:17 PM PDT reply actions  

bye, chavy. kisses.

And the last remnants memory destroys.

by Leopold Bloom on Nov 4, 2010 4:25 PM PDT reply actions  

Thank you Chavy!!!

You are one of my favorite A’s players ever and I will miss seeing you don the green and gold. I will miss your heart, determination, athleticism, and professionalism. Good luck to you.

I don't have to answer to you, You aint my bitch.

by BigDaddyChacon on Nov 4, 2010 6:42 PM PDT reply actions  

Thank you Chavy!

You were a great 3B! I loved knowing that when a ball was hit your way it was a sure out. You will be missed!

by A's Fan KT on Nov 4, 2010 7:08 PM PDT reply actions  

I'l never forget FINALLY meeting him last ST

I’d tried for years and years to just shake his hand or get his autograph or anything.
It wasn’t that he didn’t make himself available, more so that I just never got a chance to.
I’m so glad I got to though.
It was the A’s ST game after the one in Scottsdale against the Giants. I saw him come out of the dugout, got his autograph, shook his hand and told him just how grateful I was for all the wonderful things he’d done early in his career.
He was about as nice as he could possibly have been, he was so grateful and reiterated his desire to be back at the level he once was.
At this point it’s been such a labor of love that I’m not too broken up about it, but I really do wish him the best in whatever is next. It would be wonderful to someday see him back with the team in some capacity, whether it be as a special instructor or even a coach of some kind…

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by stranahanahan on Nov 5, 2010 12:42 AM PDT reply actions  

Thanks Eric for being a real pro

Sad to see Eric go when he was healthy one of the top players at third base and one of the best defensive third basemen of all time and all those gold gloves to prove it hope he has good life after baseball and you will be missed Eric.

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by FresnoRam80 on Nov 5, 2010 12:52 AM PDT reply actions  

I love Chavvy

but I don’t agree with the talk about making him a coach.

First of all, I don’t assume that just because he was good at playing infield defense he’ll be good at teaching it. Second, I just don’t buy this notion that every time we love a former player we ought to keep him around as a coach, just so that he still get to see him every day.

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by iglew on Nov 5, 2010 2:42 AM PDT reply actions  

Well I was mostly kidding

But I think Chavvy would make an awesome infield coach since he learned from one of the greats in Wash.

"Their batters are patient to the point that it's annoying." -Ryan Franklin

by Helloooo 1st on Nov 6, 2010 2:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

Bet ya

Ellis hits .233 8 HR 46 RBI .322 OBP and makes 12 errors at second…

by CrazyBoutTheGreen on Nov 5, 2010 3:06 AM PDT reply actions  

Fortunately, three of those stats aren't very important,

and a fourth isn’t something we count on Ellis for anyway.

But I hope he has a better OBP than that.

"I wasn't able to extend so I had a serious lack of extension."--Dallas Braden

by StJosephBurningTheOakTreesToTheGround on Nov 5, 2010 8:52 AM PDT up reply actions  

Thanks for the memories, Eric

One of my favorite memories: I was in attendance twelve years ago when he hit for the cycle (and then just a few years ago when Ellis hit for it too- the only two cycles hit by A’s at the Coliseum).

Chavvy was such a GREAT fielder. I’m not sure I ever saw a better third baseman, and I’m old enough to remember Brooks Robinson picking ’em back in the day.

I’m glad they picked up Ellis’ option. He is a class act, and great talent and should end his career with the A’s.

by Brian in 317 on Nov 5, 2010 6:51 AM PDT reply actions  

In other roster news...

Buck and Ziggy were granted Super-2 status, making them eligible for arbitration this offseason.

The monster at the end of this blog.

by grover on Nov 5, 2010 8:35 AM PDT reply actions  

That Buck is "Super" anything is surprising to me.

Other than maybe Super-disappointing as a baseball player.

Take your silver mod tubescreamer, your dr. z, your nocaster, put them in a pile and burn them. if god gave you a thousand years, you still couldn't touch this. you can't f***ing keep time to this.

by Elvez on Nov 5, 2010 11:35 AM PDT up reply actions  

By day, a mild-mannered disappointment.

By night, he crusades for truth, justice, and the American way as…

"I wasn't able to extend so I had a serious lack of extension."--Dallas Braden

by StJosephBurningTheOakTreesToTheGround on Nov 5, 2010 11:51 AM PDT up reply actions  

By by Buck..

You were a great… errr…“ok” athletic.

"Carter's 25-game hitting streak isn't any normal streak. He's 46 for 97 (.474 average) during the run, adding 16 walks and compiling 81 total bases in the process. I'm out of superlatives for what he's doing." - Kevin Goldstein

by Syphon on Nov 5, 2010 4:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

if chavy signs elsewhere and actually stays healthy for any extended period of time, i will stop liking him

A's v Giants "is kind of like the difference between going to see the Ramones and going to see the Bee Gees. A's fans will go see the Ramones."
-BB 07/27/05

by xbhaskarx on Nov 5, 2010 9:45 AM PDT reply actions  

If I grow 4 inches, gain 20 pounds of muscle, and become extremely charming, the hot girl in my class will start liking me.

Somethings we just don’t have to worry about happening.

A's Fan in Sweden

"Some of us know him as the a-hole who piled into Ray Fosse in an All-Star game (it's why Ray is the way he is folks)" - OptimistPrime

by travdog6 on Nov 5, 2010 9:48 AM PDT up reply actions  

I read that as 20 pounds of mustache

which would guarantee the girl liking you.

"The ego, the super-ego, and the Ed" - dannycakes

by Future Ed on Nov 5, 2010 11:05 AM PDT up reply actions  

That would be an epic beard, man.

Take your silver mod tubescreamer, your dr. z, your nocaster, put them in a pile and burn them. if god gave you a thousand years, you still couldn't touch this. you can't f***ing keep time to this.

by Elvez on Nov 5, 2010 11:35 AM PDT up reply actions  

When did the "moustache" spelling of that word go out of style, by the way?

I seem to be the only one still using it.

"I wasn't able to extend so I had a serious lack of extension."--Dallas Braden

by StJosephBurningTheOakTreesToTheGround on Nov 5, 2010 11:52 AM PDT up reply actions  

I usually type "moustache"

then I get a squiggly line.

Don’t know.

"The ego, the super-ego, and the Ed" - dannycakes

by Future Ed on Nov 5, 2010 12:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

um, hi.

And the last remnants memory destroys.

by Leopold Bloom on Nov 5, 2010 1:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

It's largely regional.

“Moustache” is the near universal spelling in British English. In American “mustache” is dominant but a significant minority prefers “moustache” .

Not a question of going out of style. More a question of regional traditions. Similar to gray-grey, ax-axe, plow-plough, etc.

Sweet is the lore which Nature brings; / Our meddling intellect
Mis-shapes the beauteous forms of things:— / We murder to dissect.

by iglew on Nov 5, 2010 2:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

Having watched Chavvy up and close over the years

He literally looked like he lost 20 pounds of muscle as an athlete. He really did look like a shallow version of his former self.

by hishnik on Nov 5, 2010 12:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

coincides with PED testing?

A's v Giants "is kind of like the difference between going to see the Ramones and going to see the Bee Gees. A's fans will go see the Ramones."
-BB 07/27/05

by xbhaskarx on Nov 5, 2010 12:25 PM PDT up reply actions  

agreed

You have to include smiley faces - Poppy
;- ) :- ) :-O : -> : -] : -}

by micdog2001 on Nov 5, 2010 7:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

Nope.

As discussed above, Eric Chavez=Robert Evans, so there’s probably all kinds of reasons for it.

Also…man, you really don’t like Chavy.

"I wasn't able to extend so I had a serious lack of extension."--Dallas Braden

by StJosephBurningTheOakTreesToTheGround on Nov 5, 2010 12:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

actually, i really do

i’m asking a valid question, if you want to stick your head in the stand, go ahead.

A's v Giants "is kind of like the difference between going to see the Ramones and going to see the Bee Gees. A's fans will go see the Ramones."
-BB 07/27/05

by xbhaskarx on Nov 5, 2010 11:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

Thank you. I believe I will.

Sweet is the lore which Nature brings; / Our meddling intellect
Mis-shapes the beauteous forms of things:— / We murder to dissect.

by iglew on Nov 6, 2010 2:38 AM PDT up reply actions  

Got room for another down there?

Choosy Feebas choose Leopold Bloom nipples

Daring. Sensual. Invigorating. Squirrel.
BLOOM. For men.

If the eggs actually hatch I made more than a mistake, I made some scientifically impossible crime.

by DMOAS on Nov 6, 2010 2:50 PM PDT up reply actions  

i always wonder about that

"If you hit .440 with 20 bombs, you don't have to do s---. You don't have to bring a glove to practice, just hit and leave whenever you want. You can bring a 40 and smoke a cigarette and call me from the parking lot asking me what time the game is, and I'll tell you. You can even say 'F--- you, Steve!' Actually, don't say that, that wouldn't be very nice." -Steve Friend, Head Coach, Chabot College Gladiators Baseball

by flipgatey3 on Nov 5, 2010 12:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

this is 2003 according to the tag

I am not buying the bulking up thing.

"The ego, the super-ego, and the Ed" - dannycakes

by Future Ed on Nov 5, 2010 3:18 PM PDT up reply actions  

1997

"The ego, the super-ego, and the Ed" - dannycakes

by Future Ed on Nov 5, 2010 3:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

I want to agree with you, but I can't see anything.

"I wasn't able to extend so I had a serious lack of extension."--Dallas Braden

by StJosephBurningTheOakTreesToTheGround on Nov 5, 2010 3:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

Never mind, I see the pictures now.

"I wasn't able to extend so I had a serious lack of extension."--Dallas Braden

by StJosephBurningTheOakTreesToTheGround on Nov 5, 2010 4:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

I do agree that 2010

chavez looked thinner.

"The ego, the super-ego, and the Ed" - dannycakes

by Future Ed on Nov 5, 2010 5:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

Later Chavy

You sure had a lot of Gold Gloves.

The FairWeather Channel - Sports Comics and Bandwagon Forecast

by Hit4TheCycle on Nov 5, 2010 10:13 AM PDT reply actions  

So long and thanks for all the digs.

"I wasn't able to extend so I had a serious lack of extension."--Dallas Braden

by StJosephBurningTheOakTreesToTheGround on Nov 5, 2010 11:52 AM PDT up reply actions  

Chavy was grace personified

But what if he gets healthier in warmer weather and his mentor picks him up and we get to see him 19 times a year in the Ranger uni’s.
I have a feeling the cold and damp East Bay weather does play its part in keeping the A’s players from healing once they are injured.

by kurt_slave on Nov 5, 2010 11:01 AM PDT reply actions  

Cold and damp?

Move to the City, tell me about cold and damp.

"I wasn't able to extend so I had a serious lack of extension."--Dallas Braden

by StJosephBurningTheOakTreesToTheGround on Nov 5, 2010 11:53 AM PDT up reply actions  

Rec'd.

Well said.

Take your silver mod tubescreamer, your dr. z, your nocaster, put them in a pile and burn them. if god gave you a thousand years, you still couldn't touch this. you can't f***ing keep time to this.

by Elvez on Nov 5, 2010 11:37 AM PDT up reply actions  

That was the Chavy that was.

"I wasn't able to extend so I had a serious lack of extension."--Dallas Braden

by StJosephBurningTheOakTreesToTheGround on Nov 5, 2010 11:54 AM PDT up reply actions  

Very nice

"Good thing you can't hit, otherwise everybody would hate you"
– H.J.S., my ex coach (while drunkenly talking to me during a team visit to a strip joint)

by elcroata on Nov 5, 2010 12:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

how do we know this
He was a clean super star in an era of steroid scandals

A's v Giants "is kind of like the difference between going to see the Ramones and going to see the Bee Gees. A's fans will go see the Ramones."
-BB 07/27/05

by xbhaskarx on Nov 5, 2010 12:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

-

"I wasn't able to extend so I had a serious lack of extension."--Dallas Braden

by StJosephBurningTheOakTreesToTheGround on Nov 5, 2010 12:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

we don't

"If you hit .440 with 20 bombs, you don't have to do s---. You don't have to bring a glove to practice, just hit and leave whenever you want. You can bring a 40 and smoke a cigarette and call me from the parking lot asking me what time the game is, and I'll tell you. You can even say 'F--- you, Steve!' Actually, don't say that, that wouldn't be very nice." -Steve Friend, Head Coach, Chabot College Gladiators Baseball

by flipgatey3 on Nov 5, 2010 12:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

there was a certain monkey around here who used to suggest that

Chavy’s body broke down early in life because of steroid use.

And the last remnants memory destroys.

by Leopold Bloom on Nov 5, 2010 1:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yup.

Choosy Feebas choose Leopold Bloom nipples

Daring. Sensual. Invigorating. Squirrel.
BLOOM. For men.

If the eggs actually hatch I made more than a mistake, I made some scientifically impossible crime.

by DMOAS on Nov 5, 2010 1:19 PM PDT up reply actions  

roids and Chavvy

Interestingly, I have never seen Chavvy linked to roids in any scandals, including the one where they targeted Miggy and Piatt including cancelled checks, where they seemed to nail most of the power hitters of the late 90s early 2000s. That certainly doesn’t mean Chavvy didn’t indulge. My theory is Chavvy and Harden are what happens when players get a little too into weight lifting without using the roids. Many players look quite a bit smaller in the last few years than they did in say 2002. Piazza and Miggy come to mind. Chavvy certainly looked smaller in 2010 then I thought he looked in about 2004. I don’t think we ever get to know. But I do think that weight lifting and baseball is getting a reconsideration lately. Maybe they don’t go together so well after all.

by barryzitoforever on Nov 5, 2010 4:07 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions  

Not according to the pictures Ed posted.

"I wasn't able to extend so I had a serious lack of extension."--Dallas Braden

by StJosephBurningTheOakTreesToTheGround on Nov 5, 2010 4:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

We don't

however, it was never alleged, never suspected, and he was never accused or charged, in an era where even talking about it around your locker got you on a list. So I would like to say he was a clean super star until otherwise charged or exposed.

I'm here to talk about Don

by OptimistPrime on Nov 5, 2010 4:31 PM PDT up reply actions  

The ONE guy

That was signed from a handful of franchise players…

…and he immediately fell apart.

In matters of style, swim with the current; in matters of principle, stand like a rock. ~ Thomas Jefferson

by ZacharyCF on Nov 7, 2010 11:22 PM PST up reply actions  

Why baseball awards and all-star voting are stupid

Terry Kennedy = 4 time All Star
Eric Chavez = 0 time All Star

Chavez was on a Brooks Robinson trajectory until 2007. Absolutely on his way to the Hall. Its a downright tragedy and really sunk our organization not having him repeat his 2000-2004 from 2006-2010. As good as Beltre and Zimmerman are at 3B, they never reached Chavvy’s Savvy over there. I’d take him in that era (00-04) over any 5 season spread from a 3B since 1980.

by PL78 on Nov 5, 2010 12:36 PM PDT reply actions  

I'd still take Brett.

And the last remnants memory destroys.

by Leopold Bloom on Nov 5, 2010 1:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

michael jack

"The ego, the super-ego, and the Ed" - dannycakes

by Future Ed on Nov 5, 2010 1:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

8 WAR in 1981

1981!!

"The ego, the super-ego, and the Ed" - dannycakes

by Future Ed on Nov 5, 2010 1:19 PM PDT up reply actions  

Brett's a d-bag.

Tells a funny story about pooping his pants though.

"I wasn't able to extend so I had a serious lack of extension."--Dallas Braden

by StJosephBurningTheOakTreesToTheGround on Nov 5, 2010 3:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

So who's the second veteran now?

For years, it was always Eric Chavez who had the longest tenure with the team, and Ellis in second place.

Now Ellis is our longtime veteran, and second longest is … who? Suzuki? I can’t think of anyone who’s been around that long.

Sweet is the lore which Nature brings; / Our meddling intellect
Mis-shapes the beauteous forms of things:— / We murder to dissect.

by iglew on Nov 5, 2010 2:18 PM PDT reply actions  

Once the next 48 hours is up and Chavez and Justin Duchscherer are officially no longer Athletics,

the next longest-tenured Athletic after Ellis is going to be— this is amazing— Jack Cust.

The next longest continuous tenure is indeed Kurt Suzuki. Suzuki, Ellis, Ryan Sweeney, and Joey Devine are the only four players to have spent all three of the last three seasons in the A’s organization and to have never been sent to the minors other than rehab assignments.

"We don't want our people to be preoccupied with seminude, crazy men jumping up and down who are chasing an inflated object," said Sheik Mohamed Osman Arus, head of operations for the Hizbul Islam insurgent group.

by PaulThomas on Nov 5, 2010 2:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

Holy Turnover Batman!

Choosy Feebas choose Leopold Bloom nipples

Daring. Sensual. Invigorating. Squirrel.
BLOOM. For men.

If the eggs actually hatch I made more than a mistake, I made some scientifically impossible crime.

by DMOAS on Nov 5, 2010 2:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

Turnover

I think this might inspire me to try and make some player turnover chart for each team.

by ArunisArun on Nov 5, 2010 3:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

Turnover

I think this might inspire me to try and make some playerapple turnovers chart for each teammyself.

I'm here to talk about Don

by OptimistPrime on Nov 5, 2010 4:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

So they're really gonna let Duke go?

Darnit.

"I wasn't able to extend so I had a serious lack of extension."--Dallas Braden

by StJosephBurningTheOakTreesToTheGround on Nov 5, 2010 3:31 PM PDT up reply actions  

i would see if Duke would take $1million

To ensure he doesn’t get 4 or more starts with texas or angels

by gambler on Nov 5, 2010 6:22 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions  

me too

"The ego, the super-ego, and the Ed" - dannycakes

by Future Ed on Nov 5, 2010 7:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

I'm all for it.

"I wasn't able to extend so I had a serious lack of extension."--Dallas Braden

by StJosephBurningTheOakTreesToTheGround on Nov 6, 2010 2:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

Thanks for the thorough answer, Paul.

That’s exactly what I wanted to know. Pretty amazing indeed.

Jack Cust! Face of the A’s!

Sweet is the lore which Nature brings; / Our meddling intellect
Mis-shapes the beauteous forms of things:— / We murder to dissect.

by iglew on Nov 6, 2010 2:41 AM PDT up reply actions  

Chavy was my guy and made me love defense.

In his prime.. GG defense.. 30HRs.. 100RBIs.. what more can you ask for? Its a shame the injuries got him but hes the reason I loved the A’s.

"Carter's 25-game hitting streak isn't any normal streak. He's 46 for 97 (.474 average) during the run, adding 16 walks and compiling 81 total bases in the process. I'm out of superlatives for what he's doing." - Kevin Goldstein

by Syphon on Nov 5, 2010 4:06 PM PDT reply actions  

This is an excellent FanPost.

The main reason I like the Eills signing is that we actually have depth at a position for a change. They could lose, but they could also win big. $6.5MM isn’t ridiculous.

"PECOTA can pretty much kiss my ass."-Nico

by jeepers on Nov 5, 2010 8:35 PM PDT reply actions  

With the extra money from letting go of Chavez and maybe, Sheets, the A’s can afford some free agents this offseason.

by athleticsperson01 on Nov 5, 2010 11:42 PM PDT reply actions  

2003 was the year I started watching the A's and

it was the last really fully healthy year Chavvy would have with us. He played well that year like he did the previous 4-5 seasons. He earned a GG, helped us get to the playoffs, and was part of the heart of that lineup ( can’t forget Miggy ). In the playoffs he left something to be desired, at least for me. Of course I didn’t appreciate and value the play of a team which would lead to playoff appearances then like I do now. I didn’t cherish and idolize individual efforts then like I do now. I didn’t care so much about these ideas of leadership and chemistry which I now believe are extremely important to success. So I wish I could watch the 2003 A’s again just so I could fully appreciate Chavvy. His defense, his bat, his laughter and smiles when on the field or in the dugout. All that I seemingly missed then but would love to have chance to view it again. Players like that don’t come around for a franchise so often.

What did i tell you...didn't I say they would win? Yeah that's right I did didn't ? Wait.. what? They LOST?!?!?

by greenbean on Nov 6, 2010 6:30 PM PDT reply actions  

what if the joins the angels, or al qaeda?

A's v Giants "is kind of like the difference between going to see the Ramones and going to see the Bee Gees. A's fans will go see the Ramones."
-BB 07/27/05

by xbhaskarx on Nov 6, 2010 10:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

Am I the only one here who would prefer to see him playing for al-Qaeda?

"We don't want our people to be preoccupied with seminude, crazy men jumping up and down who are chasing an inflated object," said Sheik Mohamed Osman Arus, head of operations for the Hizbul Islam insurgent group.

by PaulThomas on Nov 7, 2010 12:22 AM PDT up reply actions  

No.

I’d prefer the same.

by Blicks on Nov 7, 2010 12:48 AM PDT up reply actions  

emotionally no

but as a practical matter, why wouldn’t you want2011 zombie Eric Chavez playing for the Angels?

"The ego, the super-ego, and the Ed" - dannycakes

by Future Ed on Nov 7, 2010 1:07 AM PDT up reply actions  

however unlikely it is he would become a significant contributor for the slegnA

I don’t want to take that chance. If he wants to go play for the Padres or something… oh well. I won’t care that much.

I have NO rooting interest. It simply become[s] a process of elimination of who I dislike less. - 67MARQUEZ
!#%&$#@&%&% antioxidants! - pam

by cuppingmaster on Nov 7, 2010 8:21 AM PDT up reply actions  

I heard they need guys with high UZR

Or was that with Uzis?

I have NO rooting interest. It simply become[s] a process of elimination of who I dislike less. - 67MARQUEZ
!#%&$#@&%&% antioxidants! - pam

by cuppingmaster on Nov 7, 2010 8:23 AM PDT up reply actions  

FIP.

"I wasn't able to extend so I had a serious lack of extension."--Dallas Braden

by StJosephBurningTheOakTreesToTheGround on Nov 8, 2010 8:39 AM PST up reply actions  

Are we going to WAR?

A's Fan in Sweden

"Some of us know him as the a-hole who piled into Ray Fosse in an All-Star game (it's why Ray is the way he is folks)" - OptimistPrime

by travdog6 on Nov 8, 2010 9:01 AM PST up reply actions  

Mychael Urban interviewed Chavvy on KNBR last night

among the various things Chavvy said, he mentioned that he wants to play third base if he can sign with some club this coming season.

by OaklandSi on Nov 10, 2010 7:45 AM PST reply actions  

Oh, lord.

The funny thing about baseball is that people will believe what they want to believe. –Joe Posnanski 8/29/09

by pam5981 on Nov 10, 2010 9:41 AM PST up reply actions  

I hear Single-A Stockton will be looking for a new one this season

"We don't want our people to be preoccupied with seminude, crazy men jumping up and down who are chasing an inflated object," said Sheik Mohamed Osman Arus, head of operations for the Hizbul Islam insurgent group.

by PaulThomas on Nov 10, 2010 11:01 AM PST up reply actions  

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