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A Farquhar Scouting Report

Earlier this month I spent a week in Arizona and got a chance to catch some Arizona Fall League action.  For those of you who don't know what that is, that AFL is a prospect development league where MLB teams send a handful of their best prospects in the high minors (AA and AAA) to play against top competition and get in some extra work.  I went mostly because I love prospects but also because I specifically wanted to check out two things: Michael Taylor's sudden hitting demise this year and Grant Green's shoddy defensive work.  I saw enough of Taylor to think I understand what happened to him, though Green didn't play the games I saw.  In addition to scouting the A's guys, I still looked for anyone outstanding that might be good trade bait.  In my AFL scouting report, I noted some of those players.  When the A's traded Rajai Davis for two relievers, the name Farquhar didn't immediately ring a bell, but when I heard his motion described, I knew I had seen him pitch November 8th, with the Peoria Javelinas against the Desert Dogs (the A's affiliated team in the AFL).

This is my report on Danny Farquhar.  Before reading it you should know that I AM NOT A SCOUT and these observations are made in the most impossibly small 1 game sample size.  I have no expertise in the visual heuristic evaluation of baseball players.  I don't even know if I have any skills.  I don't trust these observations and you probably shouldn't either.  Go look at the numbers, they tell a much more true story of performance and aptitude.  Im not even sure that if I was a scout I should be trusted.  That being said I was able to sit behind some scouts and get a look at some of the numbers on their guns as well as hear what they had to say. 

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The first thing I remember was what the scouts said while Farquhar was walking in to relieve Garrison after a disastrous outing.  One scout, from the Red Soxs organization as you can guess by the diction, said the other: "Check out this guy hes got a wicked arm angle.  He throws almost submarine to righties but comes back up for lefties.  It just burs in on righties."  When he's throwing you really see how that would be difficult to hit, coming in hard in the very high eighties to the low 90s from the side like that. The motion itself creates deception which causes his stuff to play up, with the ball coming from an unusual angle and is fairly well hidden by the motion.  The slider that he throws from that angle is sweeping and is about 10 mph slower than the fastball.  It starts out at 9 o'clock and will break away from a righty and a little down.  He doesn't have a lot of command often missing his target in the game I saw.  His pitches in the zone while looking tough to hit had that I don't really know where they are going kinda feel too them where it kinda surprises a hitter that its in the zone.   This is the right handed hitter motion:

 

Danny Farquhar pitching at the NH Fishercats (via calxtwo)

 

When dealing with left handers Farquhar is a completely different pitcher.  Adam Foster runs a site that you all should be aware of called Project Prospect hes a super knowledgeable guy and is really accessible (especially on his twitter, seriously follow him) and awesome.  He was kind enough to upload some video of Farquhar's overhand motion to LH when I told him that I was doing this piece.  Take a look:

Marc Krauss vs. Dan Farquhar (via projectprospect)

From that angle, as you can see in the video, he throws a more traditional slider rather than the sweeping slider from the side and will flash change up on occasion.  He can also dial up the fastball higher into the mid 90s, rather than the low 90s from the side.  The slider isn't a great pitch but its probably an average pitch to lefties with good but not the tightest break.  He has a tendency to elevate the slider which is not what you want to see. He also lacks good fastball command from this angle but he does get some sink on the FB, establishing a good downward plane despite not being tall in the least at 5'10.

Farquhar has strong stuff, thats undeniable, and his minor league K rate back up that observation. If he is going to be a potential key cog in the bullpen, however, he has to control his pitches better.  His walk rate in the minors is atrocious, sitting at 4.8 walks per 9 innings pitched for his career and has been even worse recently siting at a stratospheric 5.3 BB/9 for his time in AA. Right now the Chone statistic projection system by Sean Smith has him walking 42 guys in 60 innings of projected big league play.  ZiPS, another projection system run by sometimes AN commenter Dan Szymborski, also sees Fraquhar walking 56 in 66 innings.  It is impossible to be a successful reliever with that kind of walk rate.

The A's must think that there is something that they can do to fix that walk rate, or otherwise picking him up was at best an exercise in futility.  There is some evidence that supports that notion.   During his first season in the minors, Farquhar posted an outstanding 2.2 BB/9 while still getting a ton of strikeouts in A ball.  Secondly, Ron Romanick the A's new pitching coach has had success teaching side arm pitchers in the past, like Brad Ziegler.  Its not a lot to support optimism, but that is the evidence that would back the notion that he could lower his walk rate.

The evidence against is much more convincing in my opinion.  First, the motion that gives Farquhar his effectiveness is a huge part of the problem.  Pitching control is based off of muscle memory, but Farquhar has to build two distinct muscle memories for each of his motions.  Its a lot harder said than done especially since much of the pitching motion is the same, it seems logical to believe that they would have the propensity to throw one another off.  Farquhar needs both in order to be a successful late inning cog in the bullpen, as the overhand motion allows him to be effective facing more than just right handed batters.  Furthermore, significant changes undertaken in order to lower his walk rate could significantly deteriorate his strike out stuff, which is why hes even looked at as a potential major league reliever.  I believe that there is a ton of risk beyond the typically high risk proposition that is pitching prospects, and I am not confident at all that Farquhar can turn into a valuable reliever.

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I'll get to this later, but just judging by the SSS 30 seconds of youtube I watched,

he looks like he has good control. I’m excited to give this a read.

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by travdog6 on Nov 22, 2010 9:25 AM PST reply actions  

He has pretty terrible control actually.

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by designatedforassignment on Nov 22, 2010 9:47 AM PST up reply actions  

I think the solution to his control issues is obvious...

Have him pitch with 1 motion to both RH and LH hitters.

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by grover on Nov 22, 2010 10:02 AM PST reply actions  

I think he loses a lot of effectiveness if he does that.

The RHH motion will not work well with LHH, in the same way that Ziggy and LHH don’t work well together. The LHH motion might work, but the breaking pitch isn’t going to be good enough that way I don’t think.

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by designatedforassignment on Nov 22, 2010 10:16 AM PST up reply actions  

Zig used to be able to pitch to both sides of the plate.

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by StJosephBurningTheOakTreesToTheGround on Nov 22, 2010 10:26 AM PST up reply actions  

No he never really could. His FIP has always been at least 2 runs higher vs. LHH

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by designatedforassignment on Nov 22, 2010 10:40 AM PST up reply actions  

Yeah, but 4.9 and 4.5 are a lot better than 8000 or whatever it was in 2010.

Guys can get by on a 4.5 FIP against lefties, especially as a reliever when you don’t see that many hitters anyway.

"I wasn't able to extend so I had a serious lack of extension."--Dallas Braden

by StJosephBurningTheOakTreesToTheGround on Nov 22, 2010 10:43 AM PST up reply actions  

There's a chance the breaking ball would clean up with more consistent mechanics

Or he sticks to the side arm motion… how long do you want to pay Ziggy a 7 figure salary?

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by grover on Nov 22, 2010 2:15 PM PST up reply actions  

agreed

perhaps what he really needs is to develop an effective changeup that he can throw with the higher arm slot to the lefties and not rely on his slider as an offspeed offering when facing them. That wouldn’t be nearly as hard or as drastic as changing his arm slot alltogether for facing one type of batter or another.

by oakballnack on Nov 22, 2010 9:18 PM PST up reply actions  

the problem is that he would lose his ability to be difficult on RHH

What we’re asking is for people to stop pretending that ipse dixit counts as a "source." When you make a claim about baseball, you should be willing to put some reasonable amount of effort into explaining why it’s correct if someone asks you to. That’s basic respect for the other poster. - PT

by designatedforassignment on Nov 22, 2010 9:44 PM PST up reply actions  

Wow.

I had no idea about the two different motions. I pulled one inning of PitchFX data a few days ago, and I saw a big mess. Two different motions definitely makes the movement chart make more sense.

I like this guy a lot more all of a sudden, for no actual real reason. This fascinating.

by danmerqury on Nov 22, 2010 10:27 AM PST reply actions  

Farquaad?

I have no useful baseball insight on this. This is just the first thing I thought of.

Interesting motion…

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by oaklandSMASH on Nov 22, 2010 10:32 AM PST reply actions   1 recs

It's more useful than anything I'm going to post in this thread

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by WaddellCanseco on Nov 22, 2010 10:37 AM PST up reply actions  

Well

even Lord Farquaad is pondering if this guy’s gonna be a good pitcher in the bigs.

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by oaklandSMASH on Nov 22, 2010 10:38 AM PST up reply actions  

He looks like he knows more than he's letting on

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by WaddellCanseco on Nov 22, 2010 10:39 AM PST up reply actions  

beat me to it :(

Make akward sexual advances not war.

by 9Custs on Nov 22, 2010 7:02 PM PST up reply actions  

thats kinda where im at.

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by designatedforassignment on Nov 22, 2010 10:55 AM PST up reply actions  

Kind of unrelated:

Apparently we’re pursuing Brandon McCarthy? Why? He’s bad.

by danmerqury on Nov 22, 2010 10:45 AM PST reply actions  

because he use to not be?

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by designatedforassignment on Nov 22, 2010 10:47 AM PST up reply actions  

He's never had a FIP lower than 4.70.

And he’s in the Dominican Baseball League right now with unimpressive numbers.

by danmerqury on Nov 22, 2010 10:50 AM PST up reply actions  

Bad numbers?

http://mlbbuzz.yardbarker.com/blog/mlbbuzz/former_top_prospect_mccarthy_drawing_wide_interest/3657203 says he has a 1.96 ERA in 4 starts. SSS, I know, but I’m just curious about any discrepancies in numbers.

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by Rebuilding Season on Nov 22, 2010 10:52 AM PST up reply actions  

I'm not concerned with ERA.

But he only K’d 4.3 per 9. That’s nowhere near good.

by danmerqury on Nov 22, 2010 11:00 AM PST up reply actions  

FIP is 3.10, which is not fantastic for winter ball.

But as you note, this is all SSS, so not really much to go on. I think he’s worth a shot, but if he’s “attracting interest” then probably forget about it. He’s not worth a bidding war.

"I wasn't able to extend so I had a serious lack of extension."--Dallas Braden

by StJosephBurningTheOakTreesToTheGround on Nov 22, 2010 11:05 AM PST up reply actions  

So he's prime for a bounce back year.

Also known as a Colby Lewis.

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by OldhamA on Nov 22, 2010 10:53 AM PST up reply actions  

He wasn't heinous in 2009. 2007 and 2008 were injury years.

"I wasn't able to extend so I had a serious lack of extension."--Dallas Braden

by StJosephBurningTheOakTreesToTheGround on Nov 22, 2010 10:55 AM PST up reply actions  

Also, accoriding to

http://mlb.mlb.com/milb/stats/stats.jsp?sid=l131&lid=131&t=l_pit

His numbers say the same. His K rate is pretty bad (11 in 23 innings) but his walks are low too (3.) Maybe he’s just pitching to contact and getting a little lucky? I’m pretty wary.

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by Rebuilding Season on Nov 22, 2010 10:55 AM PST reply actions  

Then again, pitching to contact produces good results with our defense

If he can get groundballs, that’s all it really takes with us, right?

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by Rebuilding Season on Nov 22, 2010 11:00 AM PST up reply actions  

Couldn't hurt to have some depth with upside

He used to be a top prospect, so there’s no harm in stashing him in AAA and trying to fix him.

I agree with you if they’re expecting him to be the 5th starter, but I think we can give the org the benefit of the doubt in that case.

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by hero66 on Nov 22, 2010 11:39 AM PST up reply actions  

I suppose.

I just looked up his minors stats. WOW. What happened?

by danmerqury on Nov 22, 2010 11:45 AM PST up reply actions  

When I say he use to be good thats what I mean.

What we’re asking is for people to stop pretending that ipse dixit counts as a "source." When you make a claim about baseball, you should be willing to put some reasonable amount of effort into explaining why it’s correct if someone asks you to. That’s basic respect for the other poster. - PT

by designatedforassignment on Nov 22, 2010 12:15 PM PST up reply actions  

in real life it doesn't look fun but it doesn't make you grab your arm like some of the pictures do.

What we’re asking is for people to stop pretending that ipse dixit counts as a "source." When you make a claim about baseball, you should be willing to put some reasonable amount of effort into explaining why it’s correct if someone asks you to. That’s basic respect for the other poster. - PT

by designatedforassignment on Nov 22, 2010 12:32 PM PST up reply actions  

It looks like instead of letting his torso stop/slow his arm, he just stops it after his release

and let’s his forearm swing around his elbow. I’m not an expert, but I don’t feel like that’s a good thing.

by NateHST on Nov 22, 2010 1:15 PM PST up reply actions  

Great post

As a former college player and current coach I think it’s great that you actually attempted to evaluate talent in person. There was a recent post by Nico in which he was trying to mitigate arguments over stats related to sample size. Stats are great. But we need more discussion regarding what AN’ers think of our players after they’ve seen them live or even ojn T.V. A s acoach I can evaluate talent based on the swing, mechanics of the swing, fundamentals, hussle, etc…I think it should be discussed more

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by oakwin2004 on Nov 22, 2010 11:38 AM PST reply actions  

DFA did say to take his analysis with a grain of salt, since it was based on one game he saw with untrained eyes

As are the majority of us untrained in evaluating mechanics, its easier to trust stats, which tell a more definitive story a lot of time. I’d love to be able to analyze swing mechanics if they weren’t so wholly subjective as a means of evaluating a player.

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by Rebuilding Season on Nov 22, 2010 11:48 AM PST up reply actions  

for example

lets say a lefty can’t hit lhp. He has a low average etc…. the sample size is 200 at bats… so the stats say don’t play him against lefties… but coaching and observation could allow a possible change in approach to help against lefties. The batter could be opening up or dropping his bat etc…like with Kouz..the way he wrapped his bat around his shoulder made it almost imposible for him to catch up with heaters…a slight adjustment in hand positioning could have helped him last year. or the obvious one was crosby standing in a different area code in the batter’s box lol

Ray Fosse thinks Pete Rose is a prick......

by oakwin2004 on Nov 22, 2010 12:19 PM PST up reply actions  

I think the thing that people don't understand from the scouting side is how little they really know about what makes a player good.

If people knew, hitting coaches would stop getting fired so often and toolshed players that people dream on like Billy Beane was when he was drafted would become stars far far more often then they do.

What we’re asking is for people to stop pretending that ipse dixit counts as a "source." When you make a claim about baseball, you should be willing to put some reasonable amount of effort into explaining why it’s correct if someone asks you to. That’s basic respect for the other poster. - PT

by designatedforassignment on Nov 22, 2010 12:31 PM PST up reply actions  

I don't doubt the value of scouting

I doubt my ability to do it. I can look at stats and be decent at evaluating what they mean (A high OBP means he walks a lot, and thats good!) whereas I can’t look at a swing and tell what it means (he has a toe tap which…means…something.)

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by Rebuilding Season on Nov 22, 2010 12:47 PM PST up reply actions  

just to be clear

I use stats all the time as well. I just love discussions relating to observations

Ray Fosse thinks Pete Rose is a prick......

by oakwin2004 on Nov 22, 2010 12:22 PM PST up reply actions  

Same -- I just find them really interesting

Thanks, DFA, for this report, which is a great read IMO. Who does his motion against RHs remind me of? Andy Hawkins? Hard to tell from the angle we get, but there’s someone who slung the ball about that way.

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by Nico on Nov 22, 2010 5:23 PM PST up reply actions  

I have no idea who that is.

What we’re asking is for people to stop pretending that ipse dixit counts as a "source." When you make a claim about baseball, you should be willing to put some reasonable amount of effort into explaining why it’s correct if someone asks you to. That’s basic respect for the other poster. - PT

by designatedforassignment on Nov 22, 2010 5:36 PM PST up reply actions  

A pitcher in the '80s/early '90s

Andy Hawkins One claim to fame is that he pitched 8 no-hit innings in a complete game 4-0 loss (based on the team’s defensive effort, I believe Brooks Conrad played all 9 positions for the Yankees that day). He was also the Rangers’ pitching coach for a brief time.

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by Nico on Nov 22, 2010 6:09 PM PST up reply actions  

I don't think anyone discounts the value of observation,

but while stats have a pretty good track record of being good indicators just by themselves, observation alone is rarely enough to make a judgment. Observation helps us understand why the stats are what they are; we know Michael Taylor fell off a cliff in 2010, but it’s observation that tells us why he did, and what needs to be fixed. The reverse is not true: a guy can have funkadelic mechanics and still do really well.

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by StJosephBurningTheOakTreesToTheGround on Nov 22, 2010 12:03 PM PST up reply actions  

Hahahahahaha this is funny. I am probably a bigger believer in stats over observations than but a handful of people.

Scouting is good for when stats are ambiguous in situations like when the competition is uneven or as a way to explain why stats are the way they are. The numbers tell a truer story.

What we’re asking is for people to stop pretending that ipse dixit counts as a "source." When you make a claim about baseball, you should be willing to put some reasonable amount of effort into explaining why it’s correct if someone asks you to. That’s basic respect for the other poster. - PT

by designatedforassignment on Nov 22, 2010 12:24 PM PST up reply actions  

CHONE is Sean Smith not the Rockies OF...

Otherwise, excellent info. Having two completely different motion makes him a very interesting pitcher.

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by vignette17 on Nov 22, 2010 12:45 PM PST reply actions  

oops my bad thanks.

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by designatedforassignment on Nov 22, 2010 1:25 PM PST up reply actions  

Farquhar?!? I hardly know har!

But seriously, great writeup, nice to see some video as well.

All I can say about stats is…

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by stranahanahan on Nov 22, 2010 1:28 PM PST reply actions  

thanks!

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by designatedforassignment on Nov 22, 2010 2:22 PM PST up reply actions  

Watching the video again, I noticed that when he starts his windup he brings the ball back kind of like Kilby did

It seems to help him in hiding it a little bit.
It’s not as exaggerated as Kilby’s was (and certainly less vs. Lefties), but it seems to help.
Also, there’s something about his motion against lefties that makes it seem like the pitch gets there quicker than it does. Perhaps if he were to learn a change it would benefit him?

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by stranahanahan on Nov 22, 2010 2:49 PM PST up reply actions  

Unfortunately Minorleaguesplits.com has been down this offseason. Id be really interested in seeing what his splits look like.

What we’re asking is for people to stop pretending that ipse dixit counts as a "source." When you make a claim about baseball, you should be willing to put some reasonable amount of effort into explaining why it’s correct if someone asks you to. That’s basic respect for the other poster. - PT

by designatedforassignment on Nov 22, 2010 4:10 PM PST up reply actions  

I know

I’m really missing that site right now.

All I can say about stats is…

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by stranahanahan on Nov 22, 2010 6:18 PM PST up reply actions  

Some pitchers do frequently throw sidearm against batters of the same handedness

Tim Hudson and Jose Contreras come to mind. I’m inclined to think the control problems have less to do with mechanics and more to do with just not being able to spot a baseball very well.

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by PaulThomas on Nov 22, 2010 4:21 PM PST reply actions  

Those guys do it occasionally, but not most of the time

They both have one basic motion for all hitters. Maybe another aptish comparison would be Brett Anderson formerly using different sides of the rubber for LHs/RHs. But there he used an identical motion, just a different view.

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by Nico on Nov 22, 2010 5:32 PM PST up reply actions  

didn't David Cone

have different motions for different hitters, R or L?

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by emperor nobody on Nov 22, 2010 6:58 PM PST up reply actions  

I don't think the Anderson

comp is really a valid comparison because for all intents and purposes he used the same delivery, just from a different position on the rubber. I think what PT was hinting at is that it’s not all that uncommon for guys to drop down and use different arm slots. Usually they will do it to gain a different degree of movement and deception on their breaking pitch. It seems to be a technique more common among latin pitchers. I remember Rolando Arrojo on the Red Sox used to drop WAY down to almost sidearm to throw his slider to righties sometimes. It looked really funny, but it was effective, probably because he mixed it up and would sometimes throw other pitches from that angle. Mike Venafro was another reliever that, though primarily a submariner LOOGY, toyed around with going over the top vs. righties (I don’t know that he ever did it in the regular season) and he would apparently gain 5-8mph on his fastball when he did that.

by oakballnack on Nov 22, 2010 9:28 PM PST up reply actions  

Agreed. The thing about all these pitchers, though,

is that they only change arm slots sometimes. Their basic delivery is the same to hitters from both sides of the plate.

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by Nico on Nov 22, 2010 9:54 PM PST up reply actions  

that's true.

I see what you mean. I guess the Venafro comp would be close, in that he consistently changed arm slot depending on whether he was facing a RHH or LHH.

Or maybe that Ambidextrous guy in the Yankee’s System would be a good comp, gotta imagine his deliveries are different!

by oakballnack on Nov 22, 2010 9:56 PM PST up reply actions  

Can someone explain Heether and Lerew to me...

These guys are career minor leaguers. Neither stands a chance of getting a call-up with the A’s.

by richwol1 on Nov 22, 2010 9:07 PM PST reply actions  

Teams generally do not use the AFL for prized pitching prospects

Most of those guys will have already run up against innings limits.

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by PaulThomas on Nov 22, 2010 10:38 PM PST up reply actions  

Good stuff, DFA!

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by elcroata on Nov 23, 2010 10:25 AM PST reply actions  

Thanks, I appreciate it.

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