Hallowinners: Giants Win First World Series Since Moving West in 1958
by emperor nobody on Nov 1, 2010 7:51 PM PDT
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Tim: "Heh."
Well, they done it, they did... I never thought I would ever say these words in my lifetime but [[inner sense of total disbelief]] the San Francisco Giants have won the World Series, besting the suddenly tepid-offensed Texas Rangers 4 games to 1 to capture their first crown since moving to the West Coast in 1958. Edgar Renteria (named WS MVP) hit a 3-run HR in support of Tim "Le Freak, C'est Chic" Lincecum, who was, save a solo Nelson Cruz HR, dominant. Congratulations to the Giants, who only need three more championships to catch up with some team that I heard used to play in the East Bay or something.
Is it March yet? This means, after all these years, that Brian Sabean has won one more world title than Billy Beane, who has not won any as a GM. If the precedent the G's just set, with killer pitching and minimal, timely offense doesn't stir Mr. B's interest and renew his initiative and ambition, I dunno what will.
Please offer your thoughts and comments on these unprecedented events below.
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Congrats to the Texas Rangers for getting to the World Series
I say nothing else
by Sniff009 on Nov 1, 2010 7:55 PM PDT reply actions 2 recs
Hopefully this WS win doesn't mean the end of the A's in the Bay Area...
sigh…
"If you can accept losing, you can't win." ~Vince Lombardi
Tweet Tweet.
I tried explaining that to every A's fan I know
…who wanted the Giants to win.
To no avail, alas. :/
I'm still an A's fan and a big F-U to all the Gnaters!
I just hope Beane wakes the hell up!
The RAIDER NATION is the ONLY NATION!!
Good bye A's
It doesn’t matter what happens now. San Jose or Oakland the A’s will always be relegated to the Bay Area’s sloppy seconds from the public and from the media. We’re damned if they stay we’re damned if they go now.
We love the A's
and that will have to be enough!
Who cares if the media hates us or all the bandwagoners in the world wear Orange and Black — we are fans of a team who is no stranger to winning when push comes to shove.
And the Golden sun will rise over the Green meadows again!
The RAIDER NATION is the ONLY NATION!!
I'm watching other stuff right now
Here’s who I want Undercover Boss to focus on next:
Jack in the Box.
It can work!
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I can't believe that show actually gets viewers
The only possible use it has is as Dr-Strangelove-esque black comedy to people with a high tolerance for idiocy and a lot of time on their hands.
"We don't want our people to be preoccupied with seminude, crazy men jumping up and down who are chasing an inflated object," said Sheik Mohamed Osman Arus, head of operations for the Hizbul Islam insurgent group.
Naw, I just like watching smug upper-management types finding out that they don't, in fact, know how to do anything useful
And that the real work that actually makes the company money are done by the people thy look down upon and refuse to pay a decent wage.
OK
and then five minutes later, they go right back to their high-paying jobs, which are now even more secure since they’ve generated a bunch of fake compassion.
Change the setting slightly and the story could have been written in 17th century France. The stuck-up noble goes and gets a dose of good old peasant wisdom from the rustics, then returns to his castle, where he, of course, rules benevolently and wisely, and everyone lives happily ever after.
Makes me want to barf.
"We don't want our people to be preoccupied with seminude, crazy men jumping up and down who are chasing an inflated object," said Sheik Mohamed Osman Arus, head of operations for the Hizbul Islam insurgent group.
No, they don't change their ways, but at least they get some shit on themselves.
Sometimes you take the small victories because they’re all you have.
Exactly
Just straight publicity for large companies to make them look good. The show has no change for the the employees as a whole except maybe 1 or 2 that happen to get touched by the show. Just pure propaganda with an attempt to package it as something else.
by longtimeasfan on Nov 1, 2010 9:03 PM PDT up reply actions
I was watching Chuck
where they kept interrupting the screen with breaking news of the Gnats winning.
It was on the top in the visual of the screen.
Bastards didn’t even have the class to scroll the bottom!
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Congrats to the Giants and their fans.
But to all you “Giants’ Fans:” I’ve actually owned my A’s gear for longer than a few weeks, so shut the hell up and stop acting like you’re now Gods among baseball fans.
Facebook is hilarious right now.
"You're just jealous. You wish you had a rally animal..." -CardinalWraith
by Boonee on Nov 1, 2010 8:02 PM PDT via mobile reply actions
I said this after the Renteria homer
To my friends who have been longtime Giants fans, congrats. Enjoy your first title. To the bandwagon fans, you get nothing from me.
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Yeah, exactly.
I can’t stand the sense of entitlement they suddenly have.
"You're just jealous. You wish you had a rally animal..." -CardinalWraith
by Boonee on Nov 1, 2010 8:09 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
I can't even go on FB right now.
It’s nothing but Gnats crap.
I don't have to answer to you, You aint my bitch.
by BigDaddyChacon on Nov 1, 2010 8:18 PM PDT up reply actions
There's a script with greasemonkey for Firefox that allows you to filter out Facebook posts
I filtered out “Giants”, and it’s a lot quieter on Facebook now.
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by CaliforniaJag on Nov 1, 2010 11:42 PM PDT up reply actions
Im so petty I hid anyone who posted about the Giants as soon as the WS started
well, maybe not so much petty as in protecting my sanity. I’ll unhide them later this week when they stop caring.
Dear 99.9 percent of Gnats fans celebrating right now
I can name 10 current and past gnat players, can you?
Just because you bought your shirt from Marshalls for tonight, doesn’t make you a fan.
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Yup
I have friends who have been diehard Giants fans forever, and I am happy they got to experience this. And congratulations to them. But, I see so many who are acting like they’ve been there the whole time, talking about going to the parade and all, who, in my experience, had not watched a baseball game, prior to the past couple weeks, in forever!
People say, if it was the A’s wouldn’t you want them to be excited with you. I’d like them to be excited for me, maybe, but not act like they’ve been through it all as a fan, and not like they are real fans. That is the main thing that has bugged me throughout this – I have no problem with the true Giants fans being happy – the hype has just been too nuts.
by longtimeasfan on Nov 1, 2010 9:06 PM PDT up reply actions
there have been plenty of occasions for Giants fans to root for the A's in the World Series
plenty more for them to root for the A’s as the Bay Area team in other playoff years as well.
Have they done it?
well...
they fly a “Go A’s” flag at AT&T anytime the A’s are in the playoffs.
Even in Portland....
The Giants fans were absolutely unbearable.
Like the guy yelling “YEEEEAHHHH!” into his cell phone 15 minutes after the game was over.
A full time A's fan in Portland who spends part of his time on AN.
Congrats to the Giants and their fans!
This doesn’t affect the A’s at all, and it’s a cool thing for the Bay Area.
by AgitationStation on Nov 1, 2010 8:08 PM PDT reply actions 8 recs
Gotta say
for civic spirit, it’s nice to hear all the folks yelling happy, shooting fireworks off in SF where I live. We’ll git em next year!
not cool
never cool
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by oaklandSMASH on Nov 1, 2010 11:13 PM PDT up reply actions
I agree, that was just good baseball..
When you think about that team, they were a bunch of random pick ups and home grown pitchers (something we on the A’s side can appreciate).
Thats good for baseball in the bay area, it lso makes one think, would Oakland be as pumped for the A’s should they get to and win the WS? I think they likely would not.
but that was an amazing run of baseball.
Silver lining for those who were rooting against the Giants:
If Texas plays, in 2011, like they did in these 5 games, the A’s are in good shape!
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
by Nico on Nov 1, 2010 8:09 PM PDT reply actions 2 recs
You know what the worst thing about this is?
R.I.P. TO THIS AMAZING PIC:
by PL78 on Nov 1, 2010 8:14 PM PDT reply actions 5 recs
yes, all good things come to an end
If the A’s win in 2011 that would be awesome. The dream scenario would be winning another Bay Bridge series (sans earthquake hopefully).
by Billy Frijoles on Nov 2, 2010 11:07 AM PDT up reply actions
Mark Ibañez on KTVU just said that the Giants
just brought the Bay Area their first ever World Series championship
uh…no…
Never liked Mark Ibanez and never will...
Get your facts straight.
I saw him at safeway in Walnut Creek after one of the NLCS games
He commented on my A’s hat asking if I was still rooting for the “Bay Area”, and then said the typical "I’d root for the A’s if they were in it blah blah
"The A's get some action but they do not score..." -Glen Kuiper
"Anyone who calls themselves the Angels Angels should have to start over and ride the short bus." -timmeh from McCovey Chronicles
I never watch KTVU.
Bunch of dumb asses.
I don't have to answer to you, You aint my bitch.
by BigDaddyChacon on Nov 1, 2010 8:21 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Was he referring to the Giants first ever Bay Area world series championship?
It’s semantics, but it is worded funny.
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No he wasn't
There was nothing ambiguous about what he said, “from stopping them from bringing the Bay Area its first world series championship.”
I sent the station an email.....posted it in the CT thread
CT ..."he’s not just an asshat with a mic" - cuppingmaster
worst part about that?
there are probably thousands of “fans” who believe that now
Huh
So I decided to dick around and look up how many WAR the Giants roster produced last season, since I figured they got very lucky to do as well as they did this year.
I was surprised to learn that the players actually posted 41.5 WAR (well, sort of— I did use Posey and Bumgarner’s 2010 seasons, because crediting the Giants with only the tiny amount of time those guys played in 2009 seemed unfair). That’s actually enough to be a playoff contender.
So: Brian Sabean, your lineup construction is somewhat less awful than I thought! Congratulations.
"We don't want our people to be preoccupied with seminude, crazy men jumping up and down who are chasing an inflated object," said Sheik Mohamed Osman Arus, head of operations for the Hizbul Islam insurgent group.
by PaulThomas on Nov 1, 2010 8:21 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
Paul, Im fearing for your sanity
when you will be seeing so many articles about Sabeans “genius” this offseason. I’m not looking forward to it either, ugh.
The odds of me cracking open at least one epic, Ken Tremendous-brand bottle of rageahol between now and March
are pretty damn good, I’d say.
"We don't want our people to be preoccupied with seminude, crazy men jumping up and down who are chasing an inflated object," said Sheik Mohamed Osman Arus, head of operations for the Hizbul Islam insurgent group.
by PaulThomas on Nov 1, 2010 8:29 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
OMG please please please do
A's Fan in Sweden
"Some of us know him as the a-hole who piled into Ray Fosse in an All-Star game (it's why Ray is the way he is folks)" - OptimistPrime
that's the worst part.
the sportswriters are going to be insufferable. they’ve already started.
by AgitationStation on Nov 1, 2010 8:32 PM PDT up reply actions
Ya
but replicating this season would be pretty miraculous. So yes, he made some good moves but lightening won’t (knock on wood 28349283x) strike twice.
A's Fan in Sweden
"Some of us know him as the a-hole who piled into Ray Fosse in an All-Star game (it's why Ray is the way he is folks)" - OptimistPrime
I think it's safe to say that both A's and Giants fans are getting drunk tonight.
"The A's get some action but they do not score..." -Glen Kuiper
"Anyone who calls themselves the Angels Angels should have to start over and ride the short bus." -timmeh from McCovey Chronicles
by Cheezombie on Nov 1, 2010 8:25 PM PDT reply actions 3 recs
"we've all waited a long time n the Bay Area for a winner"
from the news guy reporting in the streets of SF
I'm glad I'm stuck at work right now.
Two guys here with Giants hats on right now…and neither one of them have shown any sign of knowing the outcome of tonight’s game. Yeah.
"You're just jealous. You wish you had a rally animal..." -CardinalWraith
by Boonee on Nov 1, 2010 8:36 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
Well, 21 years is a long time
It's the fans that make the game fun. -- Rickey Henderson, July 26, 2009.
by Englishmajor on Nov 1, 2010 8:29 PM PDT up reply actions 2 recs
16 years, 6 sports
10 if you count collegiate football and basketball.
That’s a lot o’ losing.
"We don't want our people to be preoccupied with seminude, crazy men jumping up and down who are chasing an inflated object," said Sheik Mohamed Osman Arus, head of operations for the Hizbul Islam insurgent group.
but not if you count the MLS.
or Arena Football.
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Pam liked my old sig better.
Yes, and Stanford won the Director's Cup for the last 400 years running too
At some point it’s not really salient to me…
"We don't want our people to be preoccupied with seminude, crazy men jumping up and down who are chasing an inflated object," said Sheik Mohamed Osman Arus, head of operations for the Hizbul Islam insurgent group.
Hey, guess what? Plenty of people like soccer, and it's very much legit.
AFL, not so much, but… sitll.
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Pam liked my old sig better.
I know that
I like soccer.
MLS is like the friggin’ Atlantic League of soccer. Chris Wondolowski is probably going to win the MVP and he makes $48,000 a year. No, it does not count.
"We don't want our people to be preoccupied with seminude, crazy men jumping up and down who are chasing an inflated object," said Sheik Mohamed Osman Arus, head of operations for the Hizbul Islam insurgent group.
It most certainly does count.
Whether you think so or not.
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Pam liked my old sig better.
Baseball players once made alot less
Remember MLS is where MLB was around the turn of the 20th century. That didn’t make baseball any less of an important pro sport then than it does soccer now. Once MLS is 135 years old they’ll likely be right on par with MLB when it comes to things like salary, exposure, etc… and the Quakes 2 championships will count no less then than they do now.
I'm happy for the Giants
but it has really gotten to be a bit too much. I’m trying my best not to point the above fact out right now because I don’t want to be a Debbie Downer to my friends who are good, hard Giants fans, but its pretty nuts to really see how much the general populace forgets about the As when the Giants do this well.
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by Rebuilding Season on Nov 1, 2010 8:41 PM PDT up reply actions
I have no problem being a Debbie Downer
Of all my friends I’m the only one who is being negative about the Giants win… and I’m the only one anyone is responding too. Their confusion at my lack of enthusiasm makes me feel a little better…
by athletics68 on Nov 1, 2010 8:45 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
it has been a long time since the Bay Area had any championship teams
Since the last Niners Super Bowl (which feels like eons ago).
by Billy Frijoles on Nov 2, 2010 11:10 AM PDT up reply actions
After they celebrated, I quit watching.
No reason to.
A friend in Beijing just emailed me a congratulatory note
I think I should turn off the computer soon.
It's the fans that make the game fun. -- Rickey Henderson, July 26, 2009.
Reply and ask him what he's congratulating him on...
Don’t let something like that stand. God knows the whole world seems to have forgotten the A’s exist.
they talk about the Giants losing in 1962 and 2002
but when they mention 1989 it’s just the earthquake.
Well, they got beat then too…
by OaklandSi on Nov 1, 2010 8:31 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
A's Season Ticket Question
Anybody know if they have plans that are less than 22 games/year? I’m looking at becoming a sth next year. I only want to go to about 15 games, but want the season ticket holder ticket prices.
sometimes they have a 14 game pack
I’m not sure if you get postseason rights or not, don’t remember.
oh really???
I was counting up my ticket stubs from this year. I attended 15 games this past season. Most of the games by myself as a walk-up customer. I think I can actually save some money by just getting a small season ticket package.
I agree completely
season ticket games are cheaper than walk-up games. You can also exchange tickets if you think you can’t make the game you chose. I’ve also been treated very well as a season ticket holder.
thanks...
thanks, definitely on my to do list this offseason. and it’ll make me feel a lot better after tonight.
In Oakland, a season ticket is two dollars and a bart ticket
every Wednesday!
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see if you can share it with someone.....
CT ..."he’s not just an asshat with a mic" - cuppingmaster
I had a 16-ticket plan this year
You got to choose which games and in what combinations (ie, one for this game, 3 for that one, etc….). Not sure if they are going to do it again, but it was great.
There's no crying in baseball!
The A's fans should be encouraged by the Giants victory......both teams are built on strong pitching & defense!
Meanwhile, the Yankees must be doing some soul-searching about how to upgrade their pitching to the level of the Giants & A’s. You can bet they’ll try to acquire Cliff Lee.
ESPN America, I think,
was saying that New York seriously pissed him off when some idiot fan spit on his wife during the ALCS.
I suppose money talks, but that dumbass put them in a very deep hole.
"We don't want our people to be preoccupied with seminude, crazy men jumping up and down who are chasing an inflated object," said Sheik Mohamed Osman Arus, head of operations for the Hizbul Islam insurgent group.
Thanks AN for giving me a place to bunker down tonight.
Been getting really tired of the Facebook surges the last month.
by DCFog81 on Nov 1, 2010 8:37 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
Facebook is evil!
"Carter's 25-game hitting streak isn't any normal streak. He's 46 for 97 (.474 average) during the run, adding 16 walks and compiling 81 total bases in the process. I'm out of superlatives for what he's doing." - Kevin Goldstein
I feel the same way.
Thank goodness for AN.
I don't have to answer to you, You aint my bitch.
by BigDaddyChacon on Nov 1, 2010 8:41 PM PDT up reply actions
Gratz to the Giants...
I love Posey and Lincecum… and I loath Texas. So.. cheers to SF.
"Carter's 25-game hitting streak isn't any normal streak. He's 46 for 97 (.474 average) during the run, adding 16 walks and compiling 81 total bases in the process. I'm out of superlatives for what he's doing." - Kevin Goldstein
time to burn something Gnats fans!
Here’s my first suggestion!
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My pic failed!
Burn this!
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by oaklandSMASH on Nov 1, 2010 8:44 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
I second this.
BURN BABY BURN!!!!!!
I don't have to answer to you, You aint my bitch.
by BigDaddyChacon on Nov 1, 2010 8:45 PM PDT up reply actions
the Giants made really good use of their top draft picks
from ‘06 to ’08’ they had top ten picks and nailed every one. Lincecum, Bumgarner, Posey.
The A's are a fairly quiet team, and then there's Ben Sheets. Sheets, as a kid, must have been thrown out of every library in Baton Rouge. ~ Scott Ostler
by Jessse on Nov 1, 2010 8:47 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
I know
Someone should write a book about Sabean and make a movie about it (lol)
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or book about how the Pirates and Royals could have every one of those guys and passed
The A's are a fairly quiet team, and then there's Ben Sheets. Sheets, as a kid, must have been thrown out of every library in Baton Rouge. ~ Scott Ostler
Dumbass Seattle
Though thet hometown boy who happened to be the best pitcher in the NCAA was too short.
oh no, i would hate to see Lincecum and King Felix together
glad that didnt happen
The A's are a fairly quiet team, and then there's Ben Sheets. Sheets, as a kid, must have been thrown out of every library in Baton Rouge. ~ Scott Ostler
The Giants built their team based on guys that shouldn't have fallen to them but did
Posey and Lincecum should never have ended up in San Francisco. This is all the Pirates, Orioles, and Royals’ fault.
2006
Royals: Luke Hochevar (1)
Pirates: Brad Lincoln (4)
Orioles: Billy Rowell (9)
Giants: Tim Lincecum (10)
2008
Pirates: Pedro Alvarez (2)
Royals: Eric Hosmer (3)
Orioles: Brian Matusz (4)
Giants: Buster Posey (5)
Also, just for the hell of it…the “Moneyball” draft
2002
Pirates: Brian Bullington (1)
Orioles: Adam Loewen (4)
Royals: Zack Greinke (6) [okay that one’s fine]
Remember in the book where it says Beane didn’t think the Giants would take McCurdy at 25 so he took Blanton at 24 and McCurdy at 26? The guy the Giants picked at 25: Matt Cain.
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by CaliforniaJag on Nov 1, 2010 11:51 PM PDT up reply actions
Pretty easy game to play, really
Albert Pujols is one of the top 5 hitters in history. He was picked 402nd in 1999 alone.
There are tons of other examples. Fact is, no one knows why some prospects succeed and others do not. In 2001 the Giants spent their picks on Brad Hennesey, Noah Lowry and Todd Linden.
"We don't want our people to be preoccupied with seminude, crazy men jumping up and down who are chasing an inflated object," said Sheik Mohamed Osman Arus, head of operations for the Hizbul Islam insurgent group.
That's revisionist history
Lincecum was drafted as low as he was because he was a skinny midget that everyone was afraid would break. The Giants deserve a lot of credit for sticking their neck out on that one, actually.
"PECOTA can pretty much kiss my ass."-Nico
At least nobody saw this World Series nationally
Sunday Night Football got better ratings last night between two teams with small media markets (New Orleans and Pittsburgh).
The USA/Ghana match (as well as several other matches) from the FIFA World Cup got better ratings than last night’s game. We’re talking about soccer…
So here's that Ibanez clip
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0UFTm3tBnh8
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by Flashfire on Nov 1, 2010 8:51 PM PDT reply actions 2 recs
Is there a number we can call to tell them he royally screwed up?
We should all call it over and over til they retract that statement.
I just e-mailed Viewer.comments@ktvu.com
Someone might want to remind this guy the Giants didn’t bring the Bay Area “its first ever World Series championship.”
The A’s “have done just that” four times already.
It’s okay to say it’s the first time the San Francisco Giants have won one, but let’s get the facts straight.
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same here
i really hope they did not do that intentionally, but i would not be surprised if they purposely worded it like that.
I have no doubt that they did it intentionally.
They probably hoped that there weren’t any A’s fan’s left that would notice that “slip”.
nice name, homey
from one smash to another
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by oaklandSMASH on Nov 1, 2010 11:14 PM PDT up reply actions
good
maybe the quakes can win on thursday and remove some of this sting. maybe we’ll see a wondolowski brace to win the series on aggregate at RBA
God that would be great
And it’s not unprecedented… several teams have come back from deficits worse than this including the Quakes.
Galaxy fans are still scarred by that
Hopefully we can put the same feeling into the Energy Drink brigade.
Just sent email as well
I saw Mark Ibanez’ comments after the Giants won the World Series. In that, he said that the Giants brought the World Series its first World Series title. This is absolutely wrong and your station should be embarrassed for airing such a false statement. The Oakland A’s have won the World Series 4 times, including one time where they beat the Giants in a pretty famous series, the Earthquake series in 1989. I wanted to make sure that this was brought to your attention.
by longtimeasfan on Nov 1, 2010 9:22 PM PDT up reply actions
Just saw the clip.
Moron.
I don't have to answer to you, You aint my bitch.
by BigDaddyChacon on Nov 1, 2010 8:54 PM PDT up reply actions
It is disappointing that the Giants won the WS...
I’m not going to hear the end of it for a while. But all that matters is that the A’s are always #1 to me. I will root for the green and gold, and despite all of this hype, it’s only about the A’s and A’s fans that matter. Keep the faith, and LET’S GO OAKLAND!!!!
by Witt_Writer18 on Nov 1, 2010 8:55 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
i hear ya, i'm just ready for this to blow over
The A's are a fairly quiet team, and then there's Ben Sheets. Sheets, as a kid, must have been thrown out of every library in Baton Rouge. ~ Scott Ostler
So there's Red Sux Nation...
….what is the new name for the Gnat’s fans increasing insufferability?
ummm...
i actually think most of the a’s fan base is actually with you on the giants bandwagon. however, most of the fans on THIS particular thread are anti-giants by the way it looks.
I have a feeling you're right
The only A’s fans I know who weren’t rooting for the Giants were my immediate family. Even my wife turned on me in the end. Thinks I’m raining on everyone’s parade and making them mad…
I turned at the end as well
I just thought why not get super drunk and wander around the massive party in the streets.
Living in SF, that was the better option (as opposed to sitting at home being pissed off).
Plus, let’s face it, Texas is not an easy team to root for. Their pathetic fans do not deserve a championship.
by Billy Frijoles on Nov 2, 2010 11:40 AM PDT up reply actions
Congratulations, Giants.
That is all. See you in the spring AN – pray for me this week. This is gonna be tough to get over. :-)
I needed a team so I wouldn’t turn into one of the eighty million pink hat-wearing Bud Light-drinking mulleted idiots at Fenway.
I still haven't figured out if I'm going to work tomorrow...or Wednesday.
The parade is going to run half a block from the building.
Thank god it's over!
Let’s just MOVE ON to Spring Training. Go A’s!
(Congrats to the Giants pitchers. They deserve it)
"We're not the doormat anymore" —Dallas Braden, 4/22/10
I'll say this much
Seeing the pitching-heavy, offensively-anemic Giants win it all gives me hope for the A’s.
not me yet. I'm still pissed that we chose not to get some offense to go with the pitching
THIS year. But I do agree that must piss Beane off. Or at least I hope he’s pissed
Agreed.
Beane talked about not wanting to upset team chemistry at the deadline this year. I think that was a mistake.
Beane must've been working with inert gases
because the chemical reactions on offense had no pop
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Congrats Giants now leave my A's alone
I never liked the Giants much but Rick Tidell said it best, let them win 1 their fans deserve it, but after that no more love that franchise. Now is the time to be classy and just let San Jose go and let the A’s be. Unlike others I dont think the Giants success has any bearing over how good the A’s can be. A’s were good when the Giants sucked, theyw ere good when the Giants were good as well. The A’s should be defined by their own success and not by the success and failure of the Giants. And yeah the A’s dont need those bandwagon fans that get influenced by the championship. Gr8 to see the philosophy Beane tries to follow succeed so well, be true to it Billy itll work out, breaks will come, young guys like Carter will be stars. Give it time. If a team that looked as bad as the 2007 Giants can turnaround so quick so can the A’s.
Here it is, you knew the pathetic, petty Giants brass wouldnt leave it alone...
http://twitter.com/#search?q=tony%20siegle
I seriously hate the Giants so much.
by PL78 on Nov 1, 2010 10:38 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
Hear that Beane? They're disrespecting you!
A real Oaklander wouldn’t take that sitting down! This should be your bulletin board material for how you conduct the rest of your career!
We know you are better than Sabean, but you’ve fell off in the last few years!
Time to bring back that Green Lightsaber Blade Jedi Mindforce Power back to the game and show them in your movie debut year why people still rep for Oakland!
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by oaklandSMASH on Nov 1, 2010 10:46 PM PDT up reply actions
Ehh
They earned the right to talk a little crap for now. We did have the “Four World Series, Zero Splash Hits” thing.
Last of the Ninth - Photography
Yeah, I definitely feel the same way.
Yeah, it’s pretty harsh and probably uncalled for. But give it to them for now, let them have their fun.
Come next year though (or next week, even)? Yeah.
"You're just jealous. You wish you had a rally animal..." -CardinalWraith
Signing Aubrey Huff isnt a "moneyball" move though?
The guy just made himself look really stupid. He won with an entirely undervalued lineup. Andres Torres = epitome of moneyball.
Good for the Giants
They have plenty of loyal fans who have waited years for this, suffering much along the way. They’re the most deserving team this year—and the most interesting. So they won. Suck it up and hope the A’s get better. Our year wasn’t so bad. And if the A’s want more attention and more love in the area, they might concentrate on developing a team worth following and loving.
So what does this mean?
Well, first, for me, I was two when the A’s won in 89. Six when the 49ers won in 94. After a lifetime of watching the teams my friends and I follow most wholeheartedly fail repeatedly, it’s fun from my vantage point to see a team from the Bay Area actually win it for once.
Second, and most importantly, it means there is absolutely no reason our own team can’t do the same thing next year. If Tim Lincecum, Matt Cain, Jonathan Sanchez, and Madison Bumgarner can be a World Series-winning rotation with a lineup full of a couple good hitters and a bunch of guys who got hot, then so can Brett Anderson, Trevor Cahill, Dallas Braden, and Gio Gonzalez.
Chris Carter can be Buster Posey. Cliff Pennington and Mark Ellis can be Juan Uribe and Freddy Sanchez. Jack Cust can be Pat Burrell, and Daric Barton can be a version of Aubrey Huff that doesn’t really hit home runs.
The Giants were an 86-pythagorean win team in 2009 that caught a few extra breaks in 2010. The A’s were an 85-pythagorean win team in 2010 that, just maybe, will catch a few in 2011.
the oakland athletics: hittin' ain't easy
Congratulations to the Giants for moving within 300% of tying for Bay Area World Series wins.
In a few short centuries, you may tie what the A’s have done in less than it took you to win your first.
Well
Cliff is just a kid so he doestn have to be Urbie he can be way better. But Cust is no Burrell. Pats done it in the big stage multiple times and in the clutch. Gr8ness is greatness, mediocrity is mediocrity. Jacks done as well as a 2 mill journey man can, but cant be more than a pinch hitter on a championship squad.
One of the reasons I didnt mind the Giants success was when I see a guy like Cody Ross who seems so much like Mr 209. Giants went on the positive when they got rid of Bonds and embraced Beane’s philosophy of dont glorify the star. Too bad that one time Beane diverged from his own philosophy in an act of desperation to get Holliday, and he lost a future gr8 in Cargon. I know hes smart enuff to never make that mistake again.
And one more thing abt this is that Beane and others would think ten times before trading Barton or Pennington or Carter for some lame bat. Develop Develop Develop, Im willing to wait 5 more years for a championship.
It's so funny watching people spin and spin to justify their irrational dislike of Cust
Even apart from the by-now-undisputable fact that clutch hitting is simply not a relevant skill, and that Cust has been a better player for the last four years… Pat Burrell was friggin’ awful in the postseason this year. It was one of the worst sustained stretches of hitting I’ve ever seen. For his career, he’s at .186/.307/.381 and has struck out in almost 40% of his postseason at-bats.
"We don't want our people to be preoccupied with seminude, crazy men jumping up and down who are chasing an inflated object," said Sheik Mohamed Osman Arus, head of operations for the Hizbul Islam insurgent group.
This is not good
Car drives into a crowd of people in SF last night: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YU-0WdHgqpI
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This was actually much less scandalous than the description made it seem
"We don't want our people to be preoccupied with seminude, crazy men jumping up and down who are chasing an inflated object," said Sheik Mohamed Osman Arus, head of operations for the Hizbul Islam insurgent group.
YOU STAY CLASSY, SAN FRANCISCO
San Francisco is spotted with fires, vandalism and violence tonight; and the social web is showing us every gruesome detail.
Thanks to a few live streams and some citizen journalism, we’re finding out a lot more about the current state of San Francisco than traditional media would usually afford us.
The city’s baseball team, the Giants, won the World Series earlier this evening; it’s taken almost no time for the city’s ordinarily peaceful citizens to erupt in wild, rowdy and ultimately dangerous celebration.
While some people on the web are joking about hashtags and Foursquare "SFRiot" checkins, others are listening to a live stream of the city’s police scanner. If you’d like to tune in, click this link, which will allow you to download a playlist containing the stream.
So far, we’ve heard unbelievable but nonetheless true stories: There aren’t (yet) enough police to control the crowds, and available officers are improvising as best they can while calling other agencies in for support.
Still, crowds are surrounding and attacking police (at least one one officer may be down), store windows are being broken, citizens are found unconscious, cars and at least one bus have been set on fire. From the scanner alone, we are being shown a picture of utter mayhem.
UPDATE: A squad car containing assault rifles was just broken into, according to the police scanner.
UPDATE 2: Six shots were just fired in the Bayview at Third and Hollister. Simultaneously, officers from San Mateo are being sent back home and the scanner activity is becoming less frenetic; it seems San Francisco police are beginning to get things more under control at around one in the morning.
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Pam liked my old sig better.
you know, actually overall the scene was very tame and everyone just seemed happy
I didn’t see any violence at all (and I didn’t see any cops until hours into the celebration). I think that overall it was very much in check and this stuff was an exception.
by Billy Frijoles on Nov 2, 2010 12:02 PM PDT up reply actions
Mad Dog
I have to say, while Neukom and Baer and the rest of the Giants front office can take that WS trophy and shove it, I am happy for all the Giants fans, and esp for Chris Russo, who finally, finally, got his “ONE LOUSY GODDAMN TIME! JUST ONE!”
by SantaCruzSurfer on Nov 2, 2010 11:28 AM PDT reply actions
I've listened to Mad Dog on Sirius
I have to say, I find his Giant’s fandom and the stories about being a young kid infatuated with the Giants are endearing.
This seems about right
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by Flashfire on Nov 2, 2010 11:46 AM PDT reply actions 1 recs
My son says "Get a haircut, hippie!" when he sees Lincecum and I don't even have to prompt him anymore!
by LoneStranger on Nov 2, 2010 2:49 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
LOL!!!! Your son is freaking awesome!!!!!
I don't have to answer to you, You aint my bitch.
by BigDaddyChacon on Nov 2, 2010 5:48 PM PDT up reply actions
One-Trick Ponies
My new nickname for the Gnats.
We still have the four-finger golden knuckle on our side of the bay!
The RAIDER NATION is the ONLY NATION!!
I’ll just slink in here and note that I would root the hell out of the A’s in any postseason that didn’t involve direct competition with the Giants — I know this because I did from 2000-2003 and 2006, and I’m hoping to do the same in 2011.
Weird contrived rivalry is weird and contrived.
No shit.
Thanks for beating the Dodgers in 1988. We appreciate that.
And go ahead and thank the Giants for keeping your DIVISION RIVAL Texas Rangers from hoisting a World Series trophy.
hello?
/taps mic
is this thing on?
Charlie Hayes ate my homework
by glenallen hill's waterpipe on Nov 3, 2010 7:45 AM PDT up reply actions
and...yeah...
If some of you choose to live in a fantasy land where the Athletics and Giants are rivals – don’t go judging me for living in a fantasy world where the A’s have 5 trophies and Orel Freaking Hershiser doesn’t have a ring and never wore orange and black.
My lord, I can’t watch Sunday Night Baseball with that guy.
And Kirk Gibson should be fed to lions.
Can we be friends?
Charlie Hayes ate my homework
by glenallen hill's waterpipe on Nov 3, 2010 7:59 AM PDT up reply actions
Eh, we got the Dodgers once in the 70s and they got it back in 88
Not that I’m happy about that or anything.
However, the very real fact is that the A’s and Giants are absolutely rivals if for no other reason than they’re competing for the less diehard fan in the Bay Area.
As I showed a couple days ago, the paid fanbases were nearly equal as long as the teams played in the Coliseum and Candlestick, and though the number of fans attending games has gone up on both sides since AT&T opened the Giants have surged far ahead in large part due to the ballpark.
That’s why it’s so important that the A’s get one of their own. They are struggling to compete for the area dollar because the attendance has grown so far apart. The problems they’ve had getting a new place in Oakland and then Fremont are well known, and now with the San Jose issue being what it is Giants ownership is acting very much like they’d rather the A’s not be here at all.
That’s where a good deal of current animosity comes from, I’m sure. The A’s did the Giants a large favor by conceding South Bay rights to them when they were about to move to Florida, but now that the shoe’s on the other foot and the A’s are struggling the Giants are refusing to give anything back at all.
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And sure, I think there is general fan animosity when...
…the general Bay Area attitude isn’t “Hey, we know you’re A’s fans but do you think it’s good the Giants are finally winning one of these things?” and is more “Hey, shouldn’t you be Giants fans now?”
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If the circumstances were reversed
and the A’s were holding territorial rights over the South Bay, and the Giants were threatening to move, and the A’s were in a “no negotiation” position trying to push the A’s out of the market completely, I feel very confident in saying Grant that you would most definitely NOT be rooting for the A’s and telling us how the rivalry is “contrived”.
It’s very easy to be magnanimous in your position, when you are holding all the chips. Try looking at things from our point of view.
by SantaCruzSurfer on Nov 3, 2010 9:34 AM PDT up reply actions
I’m also extremely surprised that Giant fan after Giant fan comes over here and claims not to know why A’s fans are rooting against them. “Why all the hate? Cant we all be friends?”
Are Giants fans seriously that ignorant about the territorial rights issue, and the A’s future wrt a stadium in the Bay Area? Do they not think its that big a deal? Do they think what Neukom and his corporate thugs are doing is justified?
Are they that oblivious to what’s going on?
by SantaCruzSurfer on Nov 3, 2010 9:41 AM PDT up reply actions
It’s not ignorance. The Giants were in a very similar situation not too long ago (albeit without the “evil empire” lead by Neukom) It’s just most Giant fans do not think a hatred of ownership should lead to such an immense hatred of a fan base, or a (very likable) team.
DOUBLE SWITCHES AND MATCH-UPS, THAT'S WHAT BRUCE BOCHY DOES!
How quickly they forget they've not been likable most of their existance
Or did they forget Bonds that fast? Plus who is to say fat ass Sandoval, Burrell, and that freakshow they call a closer are likeable either?
@PA Warrior
Really? I have no hatred of the Giants fanbase perse, nor of the players on the team, but it’s impossible to have any good feelings towards a franchise that is doing everything they literally can to marginalize, and force out of the area the team you love. If you cant see how that supersedes any “like” we may have towards you guys, then I cant help you. Its pretty obvious to me that the organization you support has declared all out war on the one I support.
by SantaCruzSurfer on Nov 4, 2010 11:44 AM PDT up reply actions
One last suggestion to Grant and PA Warrior
If you really are serious about “no hard feelings” with your cross bay “brothers”, there’s one very simple thing you can do: send an email to Bill Neukom and Larry Baer and tell them that as the founder of McCovey Chronicles and as a loyal diehard Giants fan, you strenuously object to the way the Giants organization are handling the proposed A’s stadium in San Jose, particularly with regards to the South Bay Territorial Rights, and in the spirit of the late Wally Haas, they enter into negotiations with the A’s and stop the threats of lawsuits, the pushpolling in San Jose, and the attempts to block the A’s from moving to San Jose.
That would be a nice gesture and example on your part, as someone who has considerable voice in the Giants community. Until then, and I think I speak for most A’s fans, the Giants organization can take that World Series trophy and shove it.
by SantaCruzSurfer on Nov 4, 2010 12:05 PM PDT up reply actions
Especially coming off the World Series win, it would be a gentlemanly show of good faith to drop the territorial rights issue
It’s not like it has any real effect on which team fans choose to go see.
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Here's a good example:
Maybe you can just cut and paste this:
from Yet Another San Francisco Giants Blog (aka Bryce) from back in Jan 2009:
Time To Relinquish South Bay Territorial Rights
I hope Lew Wolff revisits relocation of the A’s to San Jose. A move to the South Bay isn’t purely a matter of compensating the Giants for their "territorial rights", but also navigating the political waters of MLB executive management and fellow owners. Rights are only rights while those in control will them.
Peter Magowan was a highly influential owner, not just amongst the Good Ole’ Boys, but with commissioner Bud Selig as well. (Was there really any doubt he wouldn’t be reprimanded for the Mitchell Report?) As the new kid on the block in 2005, Wolff couldn’t ruffle anyone’s feathers…he quickly dismissed San Jose and went straight for a stadium plan within his own territory. But now with Magowan out (replaced in October with Bill Neukom), Wolff supersedes the new Giants managing general partner in seniority, and has added leverage in the goodwill he accrued by playing by the rules from day one.
Upon yesterday’s news that the A’s Fremont stadium deal has fallen through, Wolff is poised to claim the many legitimate reasons for relocating the A’s to San Jose:
He first performed due diligence on a stadium deal in his market, but was rebuffed
The spurious claim to the South Bay made by the Giants, as it was essentially gifted to the Giants by the A’s/MLB in the early 90’s to help keep the team in the Bay Area. The Giants are now solidly established in San Francisco, irrespective of notional rights to local sub-markets. They are furthermore, less than 10 years away from paying off AT&T Park.
The still unquantified value of the South Bay territory to the Giants should be ascertained by an independent group, offering more clarity to the deal.
The disproportionate allocation of Bay Area territories between the Giants and A’s – the Giants have 5 of the 7 identified territories
The precedent set with the Washington Nationals (Montreal Expos) move to a territory belonging to the Baltimore Orioles
San Jose is now the 9th or 10th largest city in America. Under what absurdist system does a franchise who’s namesake is attached to once city, justified in laying claim to a larger, adjacent city?
Rather than fight a San Jose Athletics relocation, the Giants should embrace it.
They can emphatically repay the goodwill of late A’s owner Walter Haas for his support in helping keep the Giants in San Francisco in 1992.
They stand direct financial gain in the form of a buyout for their territorial rights
The stand further indirect financial gain in the form of increased valuation of Major League Baseball proper. Moving to San Jose would immediately elevate the A’s to the upper-third gross revenue franchises in MLB, and as the saying goes, a rising tide lifts all ships.
Forcing the A’s out of market altogether by proactively blocking a move to San Jose is a classless, miserly business tactic. The San Jose A’s and San Francisco Giants could transform the greater Bay Area into a one of the powerhouse MLB markets, benefiting both franchises and communities.
Considering the Giants faced the same stadium challenges when they called Candlestick Park home, were on the cusp of moving across the country, and ultimately pulled through to become one of the preeminently run operations in baseball, it’s sad to see them try to deny a prime opportunity to both the A’s and residents of the South Bay. Look, I’ll always be a Giants fan, but if anything would motivate me to NOT renew my Giants season tickets, it would be preventing this deal for reasons that can only be described as selfishness and greed.
http://yasfgb.blogspot.com/2008/05/giants-should-relinquish-south-bay.html
by SantaCruzSurfer on Nov 4, 2010 1:50 PM PDT up reply actions
I could NEVER root for an LA team or other NL west rival against Oakland in the series if it came to that. I hate those teams. Yet my A’s fan friends would root for the teams from the AL west that could go up against the Giants in the series. How could any A’s fan openly root for the Halos, Mariners, or Rangers?
Because they're not the Giants?
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by Flashfire on Nov 4, 2010 8:00 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
And in 2002 the Angels weren't the rival they are now. Back then the bigger rival was Seattle.
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Thats the confusing part to me, these 4 teams been butting heads in the AL West since ‘77 (longer for A’s, Angels, and Rangers) Thats ALOT of games not to have a fierce rivalry.
It's more to do with who's good at the time, I think
The A’s don’t have a rivalry that’s anything like Yankees/Red Sox or Giants/Dodgers, one you can always count on every year no matter how good or bad the teams are.
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Guess the A's don't share most A's fans sentiments
Then again they may just be kissing ass since it never hurts to do so when you really want something.
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