Game 3 Tonight, Game 4 Tomorrow -- Who Throws For Texas On Hallowe'en?
by Nico on Oct 30, 2010 10:41 AM PDT
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PrintA couple stray thoughts on the matter at hand, a matter which continues at 4:00pm PDT or so with Jonathan Sanchez facing Colby Lewis deep in the heart of Arlington...
* The Rangers will be down either 2-1 or 3-0 after tonight, with three choices for a game 4 starter. One choice is Tommy Hunter, who is a poster boy for why won-loss record is not the most meaningful stat. Hunter is, in fact, too mediocre to throw in a crucial game if you don't have to pitch him. Another choice is Derek Holland, who needed a compass, a GPS, and Yahoo Maps just to find the plate once in 13 tries on Thursday. A third choice is Cliff Lee, who would have to pitch on short rest only to pitch again on short rest in game 7 should Texas be so fortunate as to be asked to play one.
The data on pitchers throwing on short rest in the post-season is not especially favorable. However, if I'm Texas and my options are to roll the dice with Hunter, Holland, or Lee-on-short-rest, it's "Go get 'em Cliffy!" Then the Yankees can sign him and his arm can fall off, and everybody wins.
* Bruce Bochy may or not be a good tactical manager and he may or may not be getting breaks that make him look good, but I have to say the guy has managed the pitching beautifully throughout the post-season. Bob Geren could take note of how Javier Lopez and Sergio Romo are lined up to face matchups where they are most likely to succeed, Brian Wilson has been much used but not abused, and so on. Geren could also take a few notes on how when you actually use your entire roster during the season, those guys are ready to perform when you need them. Nate Schierholz, Travis Ishikawa, Ross-Rowand, Renteria-Fontenot, they all see the light of day often enough and/or have roles they can plan for, so that when the bell rings they are prepared and able to contribute, while key players like Buster Posey and Aubrey Huff are not exhausted. This message brought to you by the rotting corpse of Landon Powell and the last lefty Brad Ziegler was forced to face in a key situation.
Anyway, talk, chat, brood, quip, and I'll see you at 4pm for MOAR BAISBALL!!!
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CAN WE PLEASE TALK ABOUT THE A'S ON THE A'S WEBSITE PLEASE? THANK YOU.
Just carrying on from yesterday. :-D
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I did accidentally refer to the A's at one point.
I have to say, it’s hard to type with those panda ears hanging down right to the keyboard. I kid, I kid!
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Baseball? Pfft. The Rally is the only thing that's gonna be on my tv.
"This must be heaven," he says.
"No. It's Oakland."
I wonder if this would be true if you didn't like it.
I mean if the two teams were the Phillies and Yankees, would there be such a headline? We know who the story is. We just don’t need to be reminded of it so often on this site.
I'm here to talk about the past.
fucking exactly
That thread title is complete bullshit, but everybody knows that that’s Nico’s MO. Try to poke at little things to get under people’s skin while trying to be innocent about it and act like he’s not doing anything.
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Pam liked my old sig better.
If it bothers you, I'll change it.
Your constant swearing bothers me; will you change it?
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I honestly don't see why you
put up with behavior like this. It poisons the atmosphere of the blog IMO
by Chilango on Oct 30, 2010 11:02 AM PDT up reply actions
Because the mods have to decide what to enforce
I’ve chosen to allow a process, for better or for worse.
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I just don't see this happening
on other SBN sites I read. Blogfathers delete offensive comments and offensive members and are done with it.
by Chilango on Oct 30, 2010 11:08 AM PDT up reply actions
great way to make people stop posting. Yay censorship.
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Pam liked my old sig better.
No, just make you stop
posting aggressive, f*ck-laden comments directed at particular members of the blog, particularly the man who is supposed to be in charge.
by Chilango on Oct 30, 2010 11:15 AM PDT up reply actions
Why? What does the fact that it's Nico have to do with anything?
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Pam liked my old sig better.
You know I only have eyes for you, furry one
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Pam liked my old sig better.
Look
I could get drawn into it but I won’t. I apologize.
by Chilango on Oct 30, 2010 11:20 AM PDT up reply actions
Nico might put up with being sworn at better than others
I get lots of #$$ at work, from co-workers.
Mostly, it’s just letting of steam, so it’s not taken deeply.
And if somebody asks me not to swear, for the sake of the community, I’d likely listen too.
Honestly, I'd prefer if this didn't degrade into a
meta-thread about me in any way. I’m going to ask everyone to please not involve me in this discussion. I’m just tired of those conversations.
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Shows how much you know --
I’m not wearing any.
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he's not writing anything offensive
Just being pissed.
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by cuppingmaster on Oct 30, 2010 11:10 AM PDT up reply actions
So you advocate open censorship based on a few rather than a more open setup that lets others have a say?
There are certain things that will get a person banned on the spot. Swearing alone isn’t part of it.
I’ve also seen other SBN sites where mods get power-happy and even go overboard on little things. Would you rather have that?
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coughbruinsnationcough
Man, I need to get this cold checked out. It’s all powder blue colored.
"We don't want our people to be preoccupied with seminude, crazy men jumping up and down who are chasing an inflated object," said Sheik Mohamed Osman Arus, head of operations for the Hizbul Islam insurgent group.
I haven't been there, but I was thinking of GSOM
I enjoy reading things with proper use of grammar and all, but I can live with typos and stuff that’s not done up like it’s going into a term paper or something. I know mods over there have cracked down on people for stuff as insignificant as that, though.
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Bruins Nation is a full-blown Stalinist regime
If you disagree with the moderators on substantive issues, they will ban you. For that. They don’t even bother to trump up some pretext.
"We don't want our people to be preoccupied with seminude, crazy men jumping up and down who are chasing an inflated object," said Sheik Mohamed Osman Arus, head of operations for the Hizbul Islam insurgent group.
I notice most of their posts have very little activity
I doubt their userbase is anywhere near AN’s but I’d figure that’s also a direct byproduct of the bannings.
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If everyone that poisoned the atmosphere of the blog got banned,
I don’t think many people would be left.
I would have gotten booted circa ’05. XD
"This must be heaven," he says.
"No. It's Oakland."
I think you could go search and find that I've cut down on swearing quite significantly since the AN Romper Room meta blowup.
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Pam liked my old sig better.
Check your comments over the last week or so
Including non CT/game threads. I do, by the way, appreciate any and all cutting down that has occurred.
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a powersearch for "fuck" and my username returns 85 comments over the last 2 weeks.
If you remove CT threads, Game threads, and DLDs?
Seven.
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Pam liked my old sig better.
Reminds me of this
Ahh, angry rock: http://www.lyrics007.com/Limp%20Bizkit%20Lyrics/The%20F*%20Song%20Lyrics.html
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Yes, if the Phillies and Yankees were the teams,
and the previous thread had been the way it was, I would have used the same title as a segue. Now I’ll change the headline because it bothers you, since I don’t really care one way or the other about what the headline is.
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
Yeah, the title is definitely more on the... inciting side.
"This must be heaven," he says.
"No. It's Oakland."
Not any more!
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
Thank you.
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It's really much better.
Thanks for changing it.
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Pam liked my old sig better.
No prob.
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
Ahhh but the URL is still the same boooooooooooooo
I know. That can’t be changed without deleting the whole post.
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Sick burn.
Why did he delete that post?
"I wasn't able to extend so I had a serious lack of extension."--Dallas Braden
by StJosephBurningTheOakTreesToTheGround on Oct 30, 2010 3:25 PM PDT up reply actions
There's a positive side to that, I guess
It means that I haven’t entirely done “revisionist history” and made the above comments totally out of place, because you could look at the URL and figure out what the original headline was.
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
Boy this subthread is so much better than a discussion of the (A's-free) Series would be!
There is no "i" in Teamocil. At least not where you'd think.
by GreenNGoldSooner on Oct 30, 2010 11:26 AM PDT up reply actions
The way Wash has managed these playoffs
I’m starting to think the Rangers won earlier games in spite of him.
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"Starting to think"?
God love him, but he’s a terrible bullpen manager.
"I wasn't able to extend so I had a serious lack of extension."--Dallas Braden
by StJosephBurningTheOakTreesToTheGround on Oct 30, 2010 3:26 PM PDT up reply actions
Gotta pitch Lee in Game 4
Yes it would be on short rest and yes, that means he’s pithcing on short rest again for Game 7.
However if Wash holds him until Game 5 there’s no chance of him pitching in Game 7.
Lee’s a FA after the Series… go ahead and risk blowing him up.
The monster at the end of this blog.
Saying Lee was headed for game 5 was cool until Thursday night.
Now, there is absolutely no reason to throw Hunter or Holland on Sunday. The question is, who pitched Monday (if it gets that far). Wilson on short rest too? One of Holland, Hunter?
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by cuppingmaster on Oct 30, 2010 11:09 AM PDT up reply actions
pitches*
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!#%&$#@&%&% antioxidants! - pam
by cuppingmaster on Oct 30, 2010 11:09 AM PDT up reply actions
It would have to be Wilson on short rest
No point in changing it up if you’re going to throw Hunter/Holland anyway. If you bypass those guys, you have to go “all in” on short rest in games 4-7.
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I'm sure Nolan could throw an inning or two
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by cuppingmaster on Oct 30, 2010 11:12 AM PDT up reply actions
Depends on Wilson's blister.
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Good point - I forgot about the blister.
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maybe they'll throw him on the side today
Related question: say they were to pop the blister. Is it okay to cover it with silicon or something or is that a foreign substance?
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by cuppingmaster on Oct 30, 2010 11:17 AM PDT up reply actions
The reason for changing up is to create the opportunity for Lee to pitch Game 7 if necessary
The monster at the end of this blog.
Yeah, but I think the more immediate crisis
is the likelihood of no game 7 once you’re down 2-0 and have a bleah pitcher slated for game 4.
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Sure
But 2-2 is a different level of desperation than 2-0 or even 2-1.
The monster at the end of this blog.
Right, but if you assume that Hunter/Holland = lose
then one scenario is to get to 2-2 and then lose to go down 3-2. The other is go down 3-1 and then win (with Lee) to go down 3-2. Same outcome, except you have Wilson and Lewis on normal rest for games 6 & 7.
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Because this is why Lee was brought to Texas...
You traded for him to win the WS for you. (Simple version.) I think staving off the 3 loss scenario for even an extra game helps Texas. And yes, I think the pressure is less for Holland if he’s pitching Game 5 of a 2-2 series than Game 4 of a 2-1 series.
And if Holland should perchance to win Game 5 in my scenario then you’re set up for using Wilson (on full rest) and then have the option to go Lewis or Lee for Game 7.
The monster at the end of this blog.
Yeah, it depends on how they do tonight.
If they win tonight, I say keep the rotation on normal rest. If they lose tonight, you obviously have to put all the chips on the table.
"I wasn't able to extend so I had a serious lack of extension."--Dallas Braden
by StJosephBurningTheOakTreesToTheGround on Oct 30, 2010 3:28 PM PDT up reply actions
Short rest and a blister might be a problem for Wilson
If the series is 2-2 then you could risk pitching Holland Game 5 with Wilson going on full rest for Game 6 and Lee again for Game 7.
The monster at the end of this blog.
Really a shame that he got that blister
He was pitching quite well for most of the game.
by OaklandSi on Oct 30, 2010 12:51 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
Who has two thumbs and is late for work?
This guy. Oops.
"This must be heaven," he says.
"No. It's Oakland."
Hate to see you go
but love to watch you walk away.
MAKE THAT MONEY, GIRL.
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Tommy Hunter doesn't just have wins, he also has a shiny, shiny 3.74 ERA
He must be doing something intangible that explains why he’s able to get outs without being good at pitching!
The Rangers should totally start him in game 4.
"We don't want our people to be preoccupied with seminude, crazy men jumping up and down who are chasing an inflated object," said Sheik Mohamed Osman Arus, head of operations for the Hizbul Islam insurgent group.
He's sucked twice in the postseason.
To the extent that “being hot” or “being cold” exists, he’s been cold. They don’t need another 4 inning outing from him.
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by cuppingmaster on Oct 30, 2010 11:23 AM PDT up reply actions
My post is not really about Hunter
It’s about the unsupportable inconsistency of acknowledging that Hunter sucks, yet refusing to examine the same assumptions about Trevor Cahill.
"We don't want our people to be preoccupied with seminude, crazy men jumping up and down who are chasing an inflated object," said Sheik Mohamed Osman Arus, head of operations for the Hizbul Islam insurgent group.
no one's talking about Cahill
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by cuppingmaster on Oct 30, 2010 11:28 AM PDT up reply actions
There's no way I'm letting something like that slide...
I mean, I’m OK with taking my rhetorical Parthian shot and saving the battle of Carrhae for another thread, since it’s somewhat tangential to the topic, but at least the tangent is actually A’s-related.
"We don't want our people to be preoccupied with seminude, crazy men jumping up and down who are chasing an inflated object," said Sheik Mohamed Osman Arus, head of operations for the Hizbul Islam insurgent group.
I value/look at peripherals more than you think
If someone who has seen Hunter pitch all year, whose scouting I trust, says, “You know he’s actually pitched really well and here’s how he’s doing it…” I will absolutely reconsider. But my impression, from his stats, to seeing him, to hearing others discuss him, is that Hunter is not that good (certainly nothing like his shiny W/L and ERA stats).
I’ve seen Cahill enough to know exactly how well I think he’s pitched and why. Apples and oranges.
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How many runs did the A's usually score for Cahill
Vs how many the Rangers scored for Hunter?
by OaklandSi on Oct 30, 2010 12:53 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
The problem with this is that it inherently leads to uneven analysis
because you both watch A’s pitchers more and have a vested interest in them being productive and effective players (as we all do).
You’re inserting bias into your own analysis.
"We don't want our people to be preoccupied with seminude, crazy men jumping up and down who are chasing an inflated object," said Sheik Mohamed Osman Arus, head of operations for the Hizbul Islam insurgent group.
No I'm not.
I have nothing invested in “thinking an A’s player is better than he is.” I have more invested in being objective and thus a reliable analyst.
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
There is no such thing as being "objective"
You’re talking about a fictional notion.
And if you think you are one, you’re frankly in denial. It’s much better to acknowledge bias and work to correct it than to bury one’s head in the sand.
"We don't want our people to be preoccupied with seminude, crazy men jumping up and down who are chasing an inflated object," said Sheik Mohamed Osman Arus, head of operations for the Hizbul Islam insurgent group.
Well, I'M not talking about Trevor Cahill
He’s walking around Newport, or playing video games or something right now. Who cares.
My point is that nothing else matters other than winning in the WS. From watching the games Hunter’s pitched… something is off about him. Nerves, release point, foot position. Something. No time to fix it. Throw someone who’s pitching better right now.
I have NO rooting interest. It simply become[s] a process of elimination of who I dislike less. - 67MARQUEZ
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by cuppingmaster on Oct 30, 2010 11:39 AM PDT up reply actions
A collegue actually saw him a week ago in SF for business
He may be still around. But the Newport beach and video game scenario could be true. I dunno….Maybe we can relive july of 2009 and start a Cahill fly ball ratio and suckitude debate again. I sorta miss those.
Is that from Shakespeare?
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
Is that a search engine I see before me?
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
When does Cahill reach the Matt Cain level with you?
If he his 2011 looks like his 2010, do you start ignoring his FIP and BABIP like you do with Matt Cain’s?
"I wasn't able to extend so I had a serious lack of extension."--Dallas Braden
by StJosephBurningTheOakTreesToTheGround on Oct 30, 2010 3:29 PM PDT up reply actions
Well, Matt Cain has been good for awhile
Cahill would need another 3 years of starting for A’s to reach Cain’s experience.
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by cuppingmaster on Oct 30, 2010 3:31 PM PDT up reply actions
It's a foolproof position, as I pointed out before
“Too soon…Too soon…Too soon…Too soon…Doesn’t matter anymore!/Things have changed!”
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
What the fuck is up with this lie?
I just fucking acknowledged that Matt Cain had some skill in that regard last night.
This kind of defiant dishonesty really angers me. It’s totally outrageous.
"We don't want our people to be preoccupied with seminude, crazy men jumping up and down who are chasing an inflated object," said Sheik Mohamed Osman Arus, head of operations for the Hizbul Islam insurgent group.
Also, and somewhat less sarcastically, starting Lee in Game 4 makes no sense
The Rangers need to win all but one of the remaining games. Attempting to beat Tim Lincecum and Matt Cain with Tommy Hunter and a not-100% C.J. Wilson does not strike me as the best idea.
The Rangers really want to pitch Lee against one of those two to give them a better chance at taking one of those games. Since that also means starting him on normal rest, it’s kind of a no-brainer for me.
Of course, the fact that it’s a no-brainer means Washington will probably do the opposite.
"We don't want our people to be preoccupied with seminude, crazy men jumping up and down who are chasing an inflated object," said Sheik Mohamed Osman Arus, head of operations for the Hizbul Islam insurgent group.
For all we know, Nolan Ryan could intervene:
“Ain’t no sissies needin’ normal rest — they’ll throw on 3-days rest and no pitch count, durn its!!!!!”
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IIRC
jim fergosi made some crazy rotation in the late 1070’s to accomodate Ryan’s desire for 4 days rest and frank Tanana’s want for 3.
The pitchers could be reversed, but what I remember is one wanted 4 days and the other 3.
"The ego, the super-ego, and the Ed" - dannycakes
Nolan Ryan's even older than I thought.
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Watch it be a brushback pitch
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Then he'll put somebody in a headlock and beat the crap out of him.
"I wasn't able to extend so I had a serious lack of extension."--Dallas Braden
by StJosephBurningTheOakTreesToTheGround on Oct 30, 2010 3:31 PM PDT up reply actions
I hear he has flown Robin Ventura in.
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It's funny cuz it's true.
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
Those of us who have brains and think Lee should pitch Game 4 if Lewis wins tonight...
No sense?
Having Lee available to start Game 7 of the WS makes absolutely no sense to you?
The monster at the end of this blog.
Not when it means pitching four guys on short rest or starting Tommy Hunter against Tim Lincecum in a likely-must-win game
"We don't want our people to be preoccupied with seminude, crazy men jumping up and down who are chasing an inflated object," said Sheik Mohamed Osman Arus, head of operations for the Hizbul Islam insurgent group.
Also,
it’s at least arguable that you would get more out of Lee by starting him in Game 5 on normal rest and game 7 on super-short rest anyway.
"We don't want our people to be preoccupied with seminude, crazy men jumping up and down who are chasing an inflated object," said Sheik Mohamed Osman Arus, head of operations for the Hizbul Islam insurgent group.
Than go ahead and make that argument
However, that’s just a different spin on my argument that having Cliff Lee start 3 games in the WS would be a good thing for Texas. I instinctively shy away from pitching Lee Game 7 if he starts Game 5 ‘cause if he throws 100+ pitches in Game 5 two days rest seems too little recovery time. Three days rest would be old school (calling the late-80’s old school… yeesh) but doable.
The monster at the end of this blog.
Well, that wasn't my original argument
I thought of it later.
"We don't want our people to be preoccupied with seminude, crazy men jumping up and down who are chasing an inflated object," said Sheik Mohamed Osman Arus, head of operations for the Hizbul Islam insurgent group.
I agree with the Tommy Hunter = bad idea sentiment... which probably means he goes out and pitches a no-no
Where the Hell do you get “four guys on short rest”? Start Lee Game 4 if Lewis wins tonight. Get the series tied and then go with Plan B Holland for Game 5, especially if Wilson’s finger is still a problem. Assume Holland for Game 5, Wilson on full rest Game 6 and Lee for 7.
The monster at the end of this blog.
this this
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!#%&$#@&%&% antioxidants! - pam
by cuppingmaster on Oct 30, 2010 11:42 AM PDT up reply actions
Holland is no better than Hunter, especially with everyone's confidence (including his own) in him shot after the game 2 meltdown
Matching Lee vs. Bumgarner and Holland/Hunter vs. Lincecum is significantly more likely to produce a split of the two games than the other matchup. The Rangers cannot afford a split because they are trailing in the series. They want two wins in games 4 and 5.
That rules out starting Lee in Game 4. The only remaining question is whether you think Lee on two days’ rest is better than Lewis on four. I’d be inclined to say no and just go with what amounts to a normal rotation. But the option is there.
"We don't want our people to be preoccupied with seminude, crazy men jumping up and down who are chasing an inflated object," said Sheik Mohamed Osman Arus, head of operations for the Hizbul Islam insurgent group.
If they can only afford to lose one game
Assuming they can tie up the series at 2 – 2, why not choose their best pitcher to “concede” that win instead of trying to waste your biggest gun against theirs?
Choosy Feebas choose Leopold Bloom nipples
Daring. Sensual. Invigorating. Squirrel.
BLOOM. For men.
If the eggs actually hatch I made more than a mistake, I made some scientifically impossible crime.
Because they don't get to wait to choose whether to start Lee in game 4 until after game 4 is over?
"We don't want our people to be preoccupied with seminude, crazy men jumping up and down who are chasing an inflated object," said Sheik Mohamed Osman Arus, head of operations for the Hizbul Islam insurgent group.
So the logic of your plan goes like this...
Holland’s toast. Hunter sucks. So if either starts the Rangers are probably going to lose. Bumgarner isn’t exactly a pushover and Lee can only pitch one of the next two games. Not exactly seeing how you avoid the pitfalls of a split. You’re still stuck with starting one of the two Texas pitchers you say to write off. Only if you do it your way, there’s no chance of the Rangers’ best SP starting a Game 7.
The monster at the end of this blog.
I'm pretty sure that's how the logic of my plan does NOT go...
I mean everything is at the margins here, but if the odds of winning are
Lee vs Lincecum: 55%
Bumgarner vs Hunter/Holland: 45%
Lee vs Bumgarner: 65%
Lincecum vs Hunter/Holland: 35%
the second way has only a 22.75% chance of getting two wins, while the first way has a 24.75% chance of getting two wins. The impact on series win probability is pretty modest (about 0.5%, depending on the assumptions you make about team win % in games six and seven) but why throw it away? So that you can start Cliff Lee, a guy who’s never gone on short rest in his life, on short rest twice just to preempt the guy who just dominated the Giants for seven-plus innings?
No. They’ll stick to their normal rotation, and correctly so in this case.
"We don't want our people to be preoccupied with seminude, crazy men jumping up and down who are chasing an inflated object," said Sheik Mohamed Osman Arus, head of operations for the Hizbul Islam insurgent group.
What's the line?
Something about 87.46% of all stats being made up?
The monster at the end of this blog.
IF they take the next two games (including short rest Lee against the Giants' #4)
Then letting the Giants have game 5 with Lincecum pitching isn’t the worst move. You concede game 5 with scraps, save your number #2 guy for must-win game 6 on full rest against Cain, have Lee start must-win game 7.
Choosy Feebas choose Leopold Bloom nipples
Daring. Sensual. Invigorating. Squirrel.
BLOOM. For men.
If the eggs actually hatch I made more than a mistake, I made some scientifically impossible crime.
Has to be 11-0 blowout
I have NO rooting interest. It simply become[s] a process of elimination of who I dislike less. - 67MARQUEZ
!#%&$#@&%&% antioxidants! - pam
by cuppingmaster on Oct 30, 2010 11:28 AM PDT up reply actions
Ummm... Geren could stand to take notes on a lot of things.
What does a mama bear on the pill have in common with the World Series? No cubs. ~Harry Caray
I just got an email message from MLB.com
that the game begins on Fox at 3:30 Pacific Time.
I thought that first pitch was around 4:57. Is 3:30 simply the Fox pregame?
yes
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
But the first pitch is 3:57, not 4:57.
And Hi, everyone! I still love AN, no matter the topic. When does Spring Training begin?
Your poem here.
March?
And the last remnants memory destroys.
by Leopold Bloom on Oct 30, 2010 2:38 PM PDT up reply actions
february, paris.
And the last remnants memory destroys.
by Leopold Bloom on Oct 30, 2010 2:39 PM PDT up reply actions
NOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!
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by Leopold Bloom on Oct 30, 2010 2:38 PM PDT up reply actions
Well there is that.
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
In Colorado, the game starts at 4:57.
And the last remnants memory destroys.
by Leopold Bloom on Oct 30, 2010 2:39 PM PDT up reply actions
The game starts you.
Choosy Feebas choose Leopold Bloom nipples
Daring. Sensual. Invigorating. Squirrel.
BLOOM. For men.
If the eggs actually hatch I made more than a mistake, I made some scientifically impossible crime.
McCarver had more anecdotes than there was likely to be game time,
so it will just be Tim sitting there in a rocking chair, telling us stories. And knitting.
And the last remnants memory destroys.
by Leopold Bloom on Oct 30, 2010 2:37 PM PDT up reply actions
Wow, it really IS Hallowe'en.
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
the latter adds a stutter.
Choosy Feebas choose Leopold Bloom nipples
Daring. Sensual. Invigorating. Squirrel.
BLOOM. For men.
If the eggs actually hatch I made more than a mistake, I made some scientifically impossible crime.
get back to work!
And the last remnants memory destroys.
by Leopold Bloom on Oct 30, 2010 3:22 PM PDT up reply actions
Is this gonna be the gamethread?
I have NO rooting interest. It simply become[s] a process of elimination of who I dislike less. - 67MARQUEZ
!#%&$#@&%&% antioxidants! - pam
No.
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
good
I have NO rooting interest. It simply become[s] a process of elimination of who I dislike less. - 67MARQUEZ
!#%&$#@&%&% antioxidants! - pam
by cuppingmaster on Oct 30, 2010 3:39 PM PDT up reply actions
The biggest bummer about this whole bullpen management thing
is how much more Bochy has gotten out of a mediocre bullpen with good management decisions than Geren was able to get out of a good bullpen with shitty management decisions.
"I wasn't able to extend so I had a serious lack of extension."--Dallas Braden
by StJosephBurningTheOakTreesToTheGround on Oct 30, 2010 3:32 PM PDT reply actions
yeah, he made a great decision to make Matt cain awesome
and tim Lincecum too
"The ego, the super-ego, and the Ed" - dannycakes
I'm pretty sure 90% of the viewers only understood about 10% of what Ozzie said.
I have NO rooting interest. It simply become[s] a process of elimination of who I dislike less. - 67MARQUEZ
!#%&$#@&%&% antioxidants! - pam
GAME THREAD IS UP
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
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