Elias Rankings are out

Mark Ellis, and Orlando Hudson, both Type B.

The obvious ones + Adam Dunn, Jorge De La Rosa, Carl Pavano, all Type A.

Can't find a non-MLBtr link though, so apologies there.

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how is arthur rhodes

and bengie molina ahead of Ellis?

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by Future Ed on Oct 29, 2010 1:32 PM PDT reply actions

The Elias Rankings are dumb and arcane and take into account stuff like BA and RBI

And, more significantly, they’re done by position, the top 20% at any position are Type A. Ellie’s raw score is actually higher than Molina and Rhodes’s, but he doesn’t crack the 20% threshold at 2B in the AL, even though there are lots of Type As with lower raw scores.

It’s also why Rafael Soriano’s Elias score is 91, while Cliff Lee’s is 87.

by Blicks on Oct 30, 2010 8:44 AM PDT up reply actions

and defense isn't factored in

so anyone who has a ton of value tied up in defense gets immediately screwed by the system.

by Blicks on Oct 30, 2010 8:45 AM PDT up reply actions

Actually, "defense" is factored in

but it’s in the form of fielding percentage and, I think, putouts and assists, so it’s another loony calculation.

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by PaulThomas on Oct 31, 2010 8:20 PM PDT up reply actions

Wow. Ellis missed the cut for Type A.

That’s huge.

by danmerqury on Oct 29, 2010 1:51 PM PDT reply actions

I think it makes offering him arbitration a no-brainer now

He’s not going to get $6M on the open market or in arbitration. Let him make the call whether he wants to stay at a lesser salary or head elsewhere and give the A’s a sandwich pick.

by PaulThomas on Oct 31, 2010 8:23 PM PDT up reply actions

Is there some kind of quota system for positions?

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by Future Ed on Oct 29, 2010 6:52 PM PDT reply actions

The top 20% of 2B/3B/SS; 1B/OF/DH; C; SP; RP are granted Type A status

That’s in each league and includes non-FA’s.

And supposedly Fielding Percentage is one of the stats used to determine the ratings for the 2B/3B/SS group.

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by grover on Oct 30, 2010 12:23 PM PDT up reply actions

Jorge De La Rosa

I want him in Green and Gold next season. With our protected pick we are at an advantage towards acquiring him.

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by Athletics fan and runner on Oct 31, 2010 9:04 AM PDT reply actions

I highly doubt DLR would decline arbitration if offered

He made $5 milly last year, and he won’t get that again on the open market if it would cost the team acquiring him a 16-45 pick.

by swatnick on Oct 31, 2010 9:29 PM PDT up reply actions

I think he'd still get a multi-year deal

He’s easily the best SP, non-Lee division, when factoring in performance, age, and injury history, on the FA market. And, he’s been pitching in a hitters’ paradise which is known for death to pitchers.

by Blicks on Nov 1, 2010 6:19 AM PDT up reply actions