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Billy Beane's Magic: Mark Mulder

Thinking back to that seemingly dreadful day when the A's traded Mark Mulder, I was bummed.  Looking at the trade now though, I realize how much we really got out of Mark Mulder (and a few others).

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04/05 Off Season:  A's trade Mark Mulder to the Cardinals for Dan Haren, Kiko Calero and Daric Barton.

This is where it all began.  In return for a pitcher that has since been hurt more often than healthy, we received an All-Star, a decent reliever and a prospect who may or may not pan out.

07/08 Off Season:  A's trade Dan Haren and Connor Robertson to the Diamondbacks for Carlos Gonzalez, Brett Anderson, Chris Carter, Dana Eveland, Greg Smith and Aaron Cunningham.

With this trade, the A's now had eight players in return for Mulder and Robertson (who had a terrible year with the Diamondbacks and was released a year later).  This trade in particular saw the A's part with All-Star Dan Haren, but it did land them three top prospects (Gonzalez, Anderson, Carter) and three marginal ones.

08/09 Off Season:  A's trade Huston Street, Carlos Gonzalez and Greg Smith to the Rockies for Matt Holliday.

This was not one of Beane's better trades, although his ability to deal Holliday at the deadline somewhat made up for trading away an All-Star closer and two of the players he received for Haren (one of whom was a top prospect).

09 Trade Deadline:  A's trade Matt Holliday to the Cardinals for Brett Wallace, Shane Peterson and Clayton Mortenson.

This trade somewhat made up for the previous one, as we received top prospect Brett Wallace and two other minor leaguers in return for Holliday.  It is still too early to truly judge the quality of this trade, but it was one the A's had to do because they knew they could not re-sign Holliday at the end of the season.

09/10 Off Season:  A's trade Brett Wallace to the Blue Jays for Michael Taylor.

This is a Billy Beane special, swooping into a trade that he has no business a part of.  It's a Billy Beane special in another way as well though, as he dished off a first round pick (Wallace) for a sixth rounder (Taylor).  When the trade is examined more closely though, one would notice that Taylor's batting stats are actually superior to those of Wallace.  The disparity grows even more when you factor in fielding, as Taylor is Gold-Glove caliber while Wallace is a liability.

09/10 Off Season:  A's trade Scott Hairston and Aaron Cunningham to the Padres for Kevin Kouzmanoff and Eric Sogard.

With the injury history of Eric Chavez, Beane knew he needed a third baseman.  He got a young one with some pop in Kevin Kouzmanoff in return for two players who would have probably not gotten adequate time in the crowded outfield (the A's already had Ryan Sweeney, Rajai Davis, Coco Crisp and Michael Taylor).  To go with Kouzmanoff, the A's received Eric Sogard, who had more walks (58) than strikeouts (47) last season in the minors.

 

So...how does this final trade sound to you? Mark Mulder, Huston Street, Scott Hairston and Connor Robertson for Daric Barton, Brett Anderson, Chris Carter, Dana Eveland, Shane Peterson, Clayton Mortenson, Michael Taylor, Kevin Kouzmanoff and Eric Sogard.

Keep it up Billy!

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How come Dan Haren, Matt Holliday, Brett Wallace, Aaron Cunningham, Kiko Calero and Carlos Gonzalez aren’t included in the “final trade” thing at the bottom?

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by Rated-R Superstar on Jan 31, 2010 9:32 AM PST reply actions  

I assume because they all went from

“Not with Oakland” to “Not with Oakland.” Though the time they were here should also count in the “what the A’s got” column.

I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal

by Nico on Jan 31, 2010 9:38 AM PST up reply actions  

agreed

they werent listed because they were flipped so the fact that they were all acquired then traded again neutralized them

by DubElXero on Jan 31, 2010 9:44 AM PST up reply actions  

Except they were far from all neutral

The A’s got terrific value from Haren, including in 2006 when he helped them to win the division.

I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal

by Nico on Jan 31, 2010 9:53 AM PST up reply actions   1 recs

I get the idea of chaining trades together, but

if this is all about the chain beginning with Mulder, why is the Hairston trade mixed in? It has nothing to do with Mulder.

And if you do include it, why start with Scott? Why not say we gave up Sean Gallagher, Ryan Webb and Craig Italiano? But then you’ve got Gallagher from the Harden trade, so make it Webb, Italiano, Harden and Gaudin on the lost list and Patterson, Donaldson, and Murton Wimberly on the gained list.

There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, Than are dreamt of in your philosophy.

by iglew on Jan 31, 2010 10:36 AM PST reply actions  

I think its because of Cunningham from the Haren trade nt

The glare was not practiced. I would get into the game situations, and when that happens, there comes a level of concentration that most can only imagine but can never achieve. You become what you are doing, and that is what you see on my face. -Dave Stewart

by Hegenberger Road on Jan 31, 2010 11:42 AM PST up reply actions  

Oops, I missed that connection. You're right.

There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, Than are dreamt of in your philosophy.

by iglew on Jan 31, 2010 12:41 PM PST up reply actions  

Taylor's D

I think his D is clearly going to be better than Wallace’s, but let’s not exaggerate until we know about “GG caliber.”

But yeah, that Mulder trade worked out.

In general, when the Big 3 were coming up to their FA status, we all were freaking out. When you look at it there seems to be a lesson learned, even for the clubs that could have afforded to keep all of them. SPs have health issues after many seasons with lots of innings, more often than not.

Some of us had clearly seen Zito as on the very real decline for actually a few years (in fact i was pleasantly surprised at his last year with the A’s, although he pitched in some luck that year.) (And all of it AMAZINGLY wasn’t seen by that team so close.)

Only Hudson stayed great (and really, his size and all those innings, it’s amazing he didn’t get hurt more than he has, and he has been hurt.)

This is where in a way having a low payroll gives a GM the opportunity to make the smart move, an excuse with the fanbase to let faves go.

Imagine if the A’s had given big bucks to 2 out of 3 of the Big 3? Yikes.

Deswho?

by supersugarCrisp on Jan 31, 2010 2:31 PM PST reply actions  

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