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Adam Kennedy..??

Any word on bringing him back? I haven't heard anything about him since the beginning of the month. I know rumors had it the Nationals and Cubs had interest in him for 2nd base, but what are the chances of the A's bringing him back as the super utility player BIlly has said he was looking for? How many of you would like to see him back in the green and gold? And do you think we can afford him?

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I think we have good depth for the infield asides from SS.

Of which Kennedy doesn’t play.
Don’t get me, I like Kennedy- I think he is unduly bashed upon here based on his performance playing 3rd, which he had never played before, and on any other team would never have been planted there.
He was one of the only batters that didn’t feel like an auto-out and he’s a classy guy.
We just don’t really need him.

*Prepare for the inevitable “UGH!!! DO NOT WANT” posts.

by brian.only on Jan 27, 2010 4:09 PM PST reply actions  

Dont get me wrong*

preview preview preview preview…

by brian.only on Jan 27, 2010 4:10 PM PST up reply actions  

Yeah, if Kennedy could play SS he’d be great to have as the utility guy. Of course, if he could play shortstop, he might be starting for some team already…

"To tell the truth, I'm not excited to go to Cleveland, but we have to. If I ever saw myself saying I'm excited going to Cleveland, I'd punch myself in the face, because I'm lying" - Ichiro

by Philip Christy on Jan 27, 2010 4:17 PM PST up reply actions  

Agree with everything you said

Like him but, unfortunately, no place for him

by easyraider on Jan 27, 2010 4:49 PM PST up reply actions  

I would love to have him as backup if Ellis goes down

but can’t give a roster spot to someone who can only backup 2nd.

And he would have to be super cheap which is not realistic

by easyraider on Jan 27, 2010 4:54 PM PST up reply actions  

This

I like him. I’d like to see him back. I’m sure a bunch of VORPers and WARheads will barf when they read this comment because there is probably some statistic that indicates he is as crappy as Billy McMillon, Professional Hitter. Oh well. I like AK.

This

by Reg on Jan 27, 2010 4:10 PM PST reply actions  

I'm just glad Billy Beane tends to make moves that agree with the "VORPers and WARheads"

instead of going with gut feelings.

Always the summers are slipping away.
Find me a way for making it stay.

by danmerqury on Jan 27, 2010 4:19 PM PST up reply actions  

right on.

gut feelings have a place in the mix, but not at the forefront.

"Sniff some krazy glue, and start a religion!"- The Reverend Billy Lard

by Gaijin_Suketto on Jan 28, 2010 11:56 AM PST up reply actions  

He does...

…but sometimes I wonder if he places AS MUCH importance on them as many fans do.

Either that, or… he has to temper the ideal player vs what’s realistically available and gets the best he can because the absolute best or ideal player simply isn’t available.

What are we at the park for except to win? I'd trip my mother. I'd help her up, brusher her off, tell her I'm sorry. But mother don't make it to third. ~Leo Durocher

by UncleLeo on Jan 28, 2010 1:21 PM PST up reply actions  

Where is the Unrec button when you need it.

I mean, are you going out of your way to try and act like an asshole by trying to make fun of people who look at stats, or is it just natural even though you’ve failed at it?

They call their best player "Kung Fu Panda" and they complain that people aren’t taking them or the game seriously enough? -Nick

by mikev on Jan 27, 2010 4:25 PM PST up reply actions  

wow, chill out a little maybe?

I don’t really agree with him but it didn’t really seem like he was making fun of people who you use stats to prove their point. maybe you are seeing something I’m not (I guess that is obvious).

I shouldn’t butt in, sorry if this makes it worse.

You have to include smiley faces - Poppy
;- ) :- ) :-O : -> : -] : -}

by micdog2001 on Jan 27, 2010 5:22 PM PST up reply actions  

Not sure if that's really what Reg meant or not

but I know I speak for a lot of us when I say I’m really sick of seeing “VORPers” or “VORPies”.

Always the summers are slipping away.
Find me a way for making it stay.

by danmerqury on Jan 27, 2010 5:41 PM PST up reply actions  

oh, I didn't realize those terms were offensive

why are they may I ask? Because they sound silly or stupid maybe?

What should one call someone who uses advance stats a lot?

You have to include smiley faces - Poppy
;- ) :- ) :-O : -> : -] : -}

by micdog2001 on Jan 27, 2010 5:44 PM PST up reply actions  

so

“stat-head” is the prefered term?

You have to include smiley faces - Poppy
;- ) :- ) :-O : -> : -] : -}

by micdog2001 on Jan 27, 2010 5:51 PM PST up reply actions  

it's not the preferred nomenclature. asian-american, please

A's v Giants "is kind of like the difference between going to see the Ramones and going to see the Bee Gees. A's fans will go see the Ramones."
-BB 07/27/05

by xbhaskarx on Jan 27, 2010 6:05 PM PST up reply actions   1 recs

I wasn't asking what it meant

just asking why adding “ers” or “ies” to it to describe someone makes people angry.

You have to include smiley faces - Poppy
;- ) :- ) :-O : -> : -] : -}

by micdog2001 on Jan 27, 2010 5:51 PM PST up reply actions  

thanks for trying to help though

I actually didn’t really remember what it meant anyways so it was a good refresher.

You have to include smiley faces - Poppy
;- ) :- ) :-O : -> : -] : -}

by micdog2001 on Jan 27, 2010 5:53 PM PST up reply actions  

because it's purposefully ignorant?

I know it’s really hard to learn what the shit means, or even trying to get cursory knowledge of what the shit means, as opposed to just making fun of it because you don’t understand it.

Eh, whatever. Fucking sick of it, the “anti stat” crap on this site bugs the fuck out of me, especially considering it’s an OAKLAND ATHLETICS blog, which just happens to be one of the most sabermetrically advanced teams in baseball.

Fuck it, who cares. I’m going to go and drink myself into a stupor to get rid of this headache. Out.

They call their best player "Kung Fu Panda" and they complain that people aren’t taking them or the game seriously enough? -Nick

by mikev on Jan 27, 2010 5:55 PM PST up reply actions   1 recs

This is why it bugs me.

It’s basically akin to bullying the smart kid in school and making fun of him by calling him an egghead.

“You use something I don’t understand, so in an effort to put myself on a level playing field, I will demean your logical arguments instead of trying to make some of my own.”

www.zekeishungry.com

by thejd44 on Jan 27, 2010 5:59 PM PST up reply actions   1 recs

OK

that makes sense, kind of. I guess I didn’t see it as demeaning but I haven’t been part of previous arguments about it. Obviously the reactions are affected by those previous arguements.

You have to include smiley faces - Poppy
;- ) :- ) :-O : -> : -] : -}

by micdog2001 on Jan 27, 2010 6:08 PM PST up reply actions  

As opposed to bullying the dumb kid and calling him an idiot and a moron?

I find this POV funny. Very funny. The flip side, of course, is the statically-savvy fan mocking and demeaning the “anti-stat” person, which is more common here than you seem to realize. No less bullying than what you describe.

“Your knowledge is lacking, and it is beneath me to try and explain it, so I’ll just mock you instead.”

What are we at the park for except to win? I'd trip my mother. I'd help her up, brusher her off, tell her I'm sorry. But mother don't make it to third. ~Leo Durocher

by UncleLeo on Jan 28, 2010 1:27 PM PST up reply actions  

Which is why I just mock EVERYBODY.

Can’t say I’m being discriminatory that way.

They call their best player "Kung Fu Panda" and they complain that people aren’t taking them or the game seriously enough? -Nick

by mikev on Jan 28, 2010 1:38 PM PST up reply actions  

LOL! Works for me.

What are we at the park for except to win? I'd trip my mother. I'd help her up, brusher her off, tell her I'm sorry. But mother don't make it to third. ~Leo Durocher

by UncleLeo on Jan 28, 2010 1:41 PM PST up reply actions  

OK Mike

go relax, sorry to add to your pain.

You have to include smiley faces - Poppy
;- ) :- ) :-O : -> : -] : -}

by micdog2001 on Jan 27, 2010 6:07 PM PST up reply actions  

which is why I'm surprised that

someone on AN hasn’t created a post informing and defining stat head terminology such as vorp, war, uzr, babip and fip for us non-statheads to understand.

by sf drift king on Jan 27, 2010 11:53 PM PST up reply actions  

it's in teh works.

but then… google is your friend

They call their best player "Kung Fu Panda" and they complain that people aren’t taking them or the game seriously enough? -Nick

by mikev on Jan 28, 2010 12:13 AM PST up reply actions  

or BB-ref, BP, THT, Tango's blog, or any other number of baseball sites

They call their best player "Kung Fu Panda" and they complain that people aren’t taking them or the game seriously enough? -Nick

by mikev on Jan 28, 2010 7:48 AM PST up reply actions  

yeah

they aren’t hard to find.

You have to include smiley faces - Poppy
;- ) :- ) :-O : -> : -] : -}

by micdog2001 on Jan 28, 2010 10:26 AM PST up reply actions  

wait hold on

can you say those again so I can write them down? I will look them up in the encyclopedia when I get to the library.

"The ego, the super-ego, and the Ed" - danmerqury

by Future Ed on Jan 28, 2010 1:08 PM PST up reply actions  

take a picture.

it’ll last longer.

They call their best player "Kung Fu Panda" and they complain that people aren’t taking them or the game seriously enough? -Nick

by mikev on Jan 28, 2010 1:15 PM PST up reply actions  

In my day we had to make an oil painting.

"The ego, the super-ego, and the Ed" - danmerqury

by Future Ed on Jan 28, 2010 1:40 PM PST up reply actions  

Eh, it's not offensive, just that they're usually accompanied by derisive or dismissive remarks.

You know, typically of the “mother’s basement” variety. Think Jon Heyman. It’s lazy, annoying, and willfully ignorant.

At least that’s the tone I got from Reg’s post.

Always the summers are slipping away.
Find me a way for making it stay.

by danmerqury on Jan 27, 2010 5:58 PM PST up reply actions  

It absolutely had that tone

Because he could’ve just as easily said, “There are probably statistical arguments against resigning him, but I like him as a player and would enjoy his presence on the A’s roster.” Instead he chose to come off like a bit of a tool.

www.zekeishungry.com

by thejd44 on Jan 27, 2010 6:00 PM PST up reply actions  

you folks must not be familiar with reg

he must be loving that his comment got such a reaction

A's v Giants "is kind of like the difference between going to see the Ramones and going to see the Bee Gees. A's fans will go see the Ramones."
-BB 07/27/05

by xbhaskarx on Jan 27, 2010 6:10 PM PST up reply actions  

oops

I guess I didn’t realize he had a history or causing strife among the AN brethern. I’m sorry if I caused more anger but at least I understand it a little more.

You have to include smiley faces - Poppy
;- ) :- ) :-O : -> : -] : -}

by micdog2001 on Jan 27, 2010 6:13 PM PST up reply actions  

i'm not sure what you're apologizing for, but my comment was directed at those who were offended, not you.

A's v Giants "is kind of like the difference between going to see the Ramones and going to see the Bee Gees. A's fans will go see the Ramones."
-BB 07/27/05

by xbhaskarx on Jan 27, 2010 6:42 PM PST up reply actions  

No worries.

Pretty sure no one’s pointing fingers at you.

Always the summers are slipping away.
Find me a way for making it stay.

by danmerqury on Jan 27, 2010 7:02 PM PST up reply actions  

yeah, because everyone on this site talks like that ;-)

Basically I think you guys are overreacting to reg’s post BUT I can see where you are coming from. Peace out for now guys and gals, I love you all.

(if people reply to me now I will not likely not see it until tomorrow)

You have to include smiley faces - Poppy
;- ) :- ) :-O : -> : -] : -}

by micdog2001 on Jan 27, 2010 6:12 PM PST up reply actions  

Don't forget to pick up the mil --

Aw, crap.

I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal

by Nico on Jan 27, 2010 6:14 PM PST up reply actions  

I just wanna say I love your username

and am currently pissed off that I have no booze in the house.

They call their best player "Kung Fu Panda" and they complain that people aren’t taking them or the game seriously enough? -Nick

by mikev on Jan 27, 2010 6:06 PM PST up reply actions  

or if you prefer to stay angry

try “listening” to this.

You have to include smiley faces - Poppy
;- ) :- ) :-O : -> : -] : -}

by micdog2001 on Jan 27, 2010 6:20 PM PST up reply actions  

actually, this one is better

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZCHXgLIuyzg

They call their best player "Kung Fu Panda" and they complain that people aren’t taking them or the game seriously enough? -Nick

by mikev on Jan 27, 2010 7:13 PM PST up reply actions  

you are right

I was posting in a hurry and that was the first thing to come to mind. i realized after that the " . . . why do I love you?" part didn’t fit at all.

You have to include smiley faces - Poppy
;- ) :- ) :-O : -> : -] : -}

by micdog2001 on Jan 28, 2010 10:29 AM PST up reply actions  

or whiskey and beer

They call their best player "Kung Fu Panda" and they complain that people aren’t taking them or the game seriously enough? -Nick

by mikev on Jan 27, 2010 7:13 PM PST up reply actions  

I know it's too late to solve Mike's headache yesterday...

but I find that when I have a killer headache, masturbation helps a lot.

"Sniff some krazy glue, and start a religion!"- The Reverend Billy Lard

by Gaijin_Suketto on Jan 28, 2010 6:59 PM PST up reply actions  

we can still try.

They call their best player "Kung Fu Panda" and they complain that people aren’t taking them or the game seriously enough? -Nick

by mikev on Jan 29, 2010 12:15 AM PST up reply actions  

Thanks,

I give credit to the Pogues and my bad habits.

That rug really tied the room together...

by Streams Of Whiskey on Jan 28, 2010 3:34 PM PST up reply actions  

Hey Billy McMillon was a badass

I don’t think anybody has anything against having Adam Kennedy as a backup on the roster, in general. He’s awful as a starter. And the fact is, the A’s just have zero need for him as a backup. If they wanted him, they could afford him, they simply have better options on the roster or in AAA right now.

Jeremy was safe. He jumped over the tag.

by mrrickyg on Feb 3, 2010 6:17 PM PST up reply actions  

No offense meant to any fans or users of statistics

I just like the player and figured I would be bashed for not having the data to back it up. UncleLeo knows how it goes here. I actually think VORPer and WARhead sound pretty cool.

by Reg on Jan 28, 2010 1:39 PM PST reply actions  

monkeyball

had a band in highschool called VORPer

"The ego, the super-ego, and the Ed" - danmerqury

by Future Ed on Jan 28, 2010 1:41 PM PST up reply actions  

"Not an auto-out and a classy guy"

Sounds like a Scutaro to me. Who is our super-sub these days?

"If you make up your mind not to be happy, there's no reason why you shouldn't have a fairly good time." -Edith Wharton (The Last Asset)

by Oakville Athletic on Jan 28, 2010 3:58 PM PST reply actions  

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