A's sign Sheets
by Morgasm on Jan 26, 2010 10:06 AM PST
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As per MLBTraderumors:
11:51pm: Urban tweets that the A's have scheduled a press conference for 1pm today (presumably Pacific Time). Not sure what the announcement is, but let your imaginations run wild.
12:02pm: Danny Knobler of CBSSports.com reports that the A's have signed and Sheets to a one year deal worth $8MM. He took his physical today, and everything checked out fine.
I'm psyched, what about you?
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Beat me!
Great Signing, Our staff is looking great should Sheets be healthy!
Let's not start blankin' each other's blanks just yet...
2 stud pitchers that are very capable of getting hurt
"They (The 1989 A's) are the best team I ever saw"- Mike Krukow
Shiii, you bringing in The Wolf?
That’s all you had to say!
by LoneStranger on Jan 28, 2010 1:52 PM PST up reply actions
He can be the veteran that anchors the rotation
Kind of like Joe Kennedy was in the bullpen.
Follow on Twitter - @MAD_Marvin
how SOLID can they both be
if neither pitched last year?
by sf drift king on Jan 26, 2010 4:38 PM PST up reply actions
lights out baby!!!
neither of them gave up a single run!!!! (channeling my inner Dick Vitale) awesome baby!!!
What did i tell you...didn't I say they would win? Yeah that's right I did didn't ? Wait.. what? They LOST?!?!?
Yes very depressed about having great pitching
Heck no I STOKED!!!!
Thank you Al Davis for Michael Crabtree!!!!!
Athletic, I regret to inform you...
… that you’re a part of a very dangerous epidemic.
(NSFW)
"Smokey, this be not the foul jungles of the darkest East Orient. This be ninepins. We are bound by laws."
awesome
“student still stoked after recovering rad-ass hoodie”
You have to include smiley faces - Poppy
;- ) :- ) :-O : -> : -] : -}
"Sweatshirt 'softest, sweetest'"
"Smokey, this be not the foul jungles of the darkest East Orient. This be ninepins. We are bound by laws."
Sorry I will try to not be excited
O who am I kidding woooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
Thank you Al Davis for Michael Crabtree!!!!!
Incredible
We finally didn’t get beaten out by a East Coast team! Huzzah!
It's kind of hard to lose to an East Coast team
When said team is the Mets.
"I feel like we are sending Danny Haren for Mulder all over again." - Cardinal fan on the Matt Holliday trade
"But at this time of year, two plus two doesn't always add up to eight. Sometimes, it equals four." - Geoff Baker, Mariners beat writer.
by Orodawg on Jan 26, 2010 10:12 AM PST up reply actions 1 recs
got a brand new dig
but nobody wants to play in it…
What did i tell you...didn't I say they would win? Yeah that's right I did didn't ? Wait.. what? They LOST?!?!?
passed phyiscal too
12:02pm: Danny Knobler of CBSSports.com reports that the A’s have signed Sheets to a one-year deal worth more than $8MM. He took his physical today, and everything checked out fine.
Coming from the A's medical team, that doesn't mean much
They call their best player "Kung Fu Panda" and they complain that people aren’t taking them or the game seriously enough? -Nick
MEMEME
I’m thinking the end of of spring training. Just before the games become relevant and just after Chavez spits a few vertebrae on the infield.
"-i never said half the things i said." --Yogi Berra
There's a mental image I could've done without post-$5-Footlong
"Smokey, this be not the foul jungles of the darkest East Orient. This be ninepins. We are bound by laws."
Well hello there.
They call their best player "Kung Fu Panda" and they complain that people aren’t taking them or the game seriously enough? -Nick
Quit with the lechering
The monster at the end of this blog.
by grover on Jan 26, 2010 10:22 AM PST up reply actions 1 recs
all I did was say hi.
They call their best player "Kung Fu Panda" and they complain that people aren’t taking them or the game seriously enough? -Nick
I don't see this ending well
"The key to staying on top of things is treat everything like it's your first project,
like it's your first day like back when you (were) an intern." - Notorious BIG
I don't see it ENDING well,
but I see kick-ass beginning and middle!
"Sniff some krazy glue, and start a religion!"- The Reverend Billy Lard
by Gaijin_Suketto on Jan 26, 2010 11:12 AM PST up reply actions
Future GOG question?
3 > 2, except for very large values of 2.
You'd better be
shakes fist
"There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want" -Bill Watterson
One more move
Sign Felipe Lopez, Dye, Gomes, or Damon.
Dislike
on so many levels.
I'm the genius who said Chris Carter will slug .650 his rookie season.
by JamesCaprio on Jan 26, 2010 10:18 AM PST up reply actions
Gomes on a minor league deal.
None of the rest.
They call their best player "Kung Fu Panda" and they complain that people aren’t taking them or the game seriously enough? -Nick
I don't know
I’d take any of them on a minor league deal (as long as there’s no guarantee of playing time). None to a MLB deal.
CuttheMullet, from "The Thread":
"Whenever I’m about to do something, I think "would an idiot do that?" and if they would, I do not do that thing."
I could get behind a Gomes signing
"Tonto think Billy Beane need to make team full of squirrels and bears."
by OptimistPrime on Jan 26, 2010 11:38 AM PST up reply actions
I'm really failing to see any need at all for Damon.
I’d like to ink Gomes to a minor league deal, though, and give him a shot that way.
What are we at the park for except to win? I'd trip my mother. I'd help her up, brusher her off, tell her I'm sorry. But mother don't make it to third. ~Leo Durocher
Indeed a cherry
I don’t see how this could be the pits
"Do I talk to myself? No, I just remind myself of what I'm trying to do. You know, I never answer myself so how can I be talking to myself?" - Rickey
by cuppingmaster on Jan 26, 2010 10:40 AM PST up reply actions
This is the first news I got this morning!
Yeeeeeehaaaaawww!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Zeigler to Geren…."A-Rod? He’s my bitch." -alox
Service time?
Assuming a healthy Duke and Sheets, some or all of Cahill/Gio/Mazzaro will spend a good chunk of time in AAA this year. Does anyone know how it will effect their arb clocks?
by GreggC on Jan 26, 2010 10:18 AM PST via mobile reply actions
so what the rotation now?
1. Duke
2. Dallas
3. Sheets
4. Anderson
5. Gio – Trevor or Vin????
My guess is they go with Gio if he doesn’t get blown up on in spring training and let vin and trevor start the season in AAA.
GREAT ROTATION if we stay healthy – we actually have a shot at the the playoffs now
Lance "you sunk my" Blankenship
hmm
I hate to be a pessimist, but I will pretty much book one of the seven (Sorry Dana) candidates being hurt by the time the regular season starts.
But I agree with you in that Trevor and Vincent make the most sense in starting in AAA. I’m still a big Gio fan.
Ehh, not that big a deal
Rotation order really means nothing in the grand scheme of things. I guess it can be a nice honor for a guy to let him start opening day but after that the hierarchy means nothing. All you want to do is break it up by handedness and pitching style, and I’m not sure that even that is all that significant.
why would you complain about that when the best pitcher on the list (based on performance + durability) is number 4?
A's v Giants "is kind of like the difference between going to see the Ramones and going to see the Bee Gees. A's fans will go see the Ramones."
-BB 07/27/05
Not sure how great Anderson is on the durability issue
I mean, he’s not Duke, but he’s no Dan Haren, either. He’s had problems before.
Shawn Spencer: "I’m receiving a transmission from your husband. Really more of a voicemail, if I'm being honest. A status update. Perhaps a twitter."
Burton Guster: "I believe it’s called a tweet."
Shawn Spencer: "There’s no way I’m saying that."
compared to duke and sheets, he is haren.
A's v Giants "is kind of like the difference between going to see the Ramones and going to see the Bee Gees. A's fans will go see the Ramones."
-BB 07/27/05
Paul Thomas Anderson does not have durability issues
m*****f***ing c***s***ing peanut butter and jelly!! f*** f*** f***!!!
Stop moving that camera around!
It’s making my eyes jiggly!
"Sniff some krazy glue, and start a religion!"- The Reverend Billy Lard
by Gaijin_Suketto on Jan 26, 2010 3:34 PM PST up reply actions
Last year... the year before last... the year before that...
He’s never completed a full season injury-free, unless I’m misrecalling.
Shawn Spencer: "I’m receiving a transmission from your husband. Really more of a voicemail, if I'm being honest. A status update. Perhaps a twitter."
Burton Guster: "I believe it’s called a tweet."
Shawn Spencer: "There’s no way I’m saying that."
He got in a car wreck back in 07
That shouldn’t exactly count against him.
The monster at the end of this blog.
Alright, fair enough
Again, this is not to suggest that he’s ridiculously injury-prone.
I would, however, argue that at least Gio Gonzalez is more durable than Anderson, as the only injury I’m aware of him having is the one he suffered in spring of last year.
Shawn Spencer: "I’m receiving a transmission from your husband. Really more of a voicemail, if I'm being honest. A status update. Perhaps a twitter."
Burton Guster: "I believe it’s called a tweet."
Shawn Spencer: "There’s no way I’m saying that."
It didn't jump out at me so much
I have noticed some over optimistic Dallas Braden love on her lately. So it was just my own bias against a good guy from Stockton!
I'm really concerned about Braden
The last news that I heard about him was “he can’t feel half of his foot.”
Way too Dizzy Dean for me to have any confidence whatsoever in him for 2010 (or indeed afterward).
Shawn Spencer: "I’m receiving a transmission from your husband. Really more of a voicemail, if I'm being honest. A status update. Perhaps a twitter."
Burton Guster: "I believe it’s called a tweet."
Shawn Spencer: "There’s no way I’m saying that."
I heard the same news
I think it said it affected his balance. That is sort of a big deal for pitchers.
He can't feel his pinky toe
Which is bad enough, considering how important the little toe is for balance. Dizzy is a great example of how a foot injury can cause a cascade injury that ruins a pitcher’s arm.
The monster at the end of this blog.
Maybe the A's plan on shutting him down for an extended period until he (hopefully) recovers
hence the greater emphasis on signing SP than people would have expected.
Shawn Spencer: "I’m receiving a transmission from your husband. Really more of a voicemail, if I'm being honest. A status update. Perhaps a twitter."
Burton Guster: "I believe it’s called a tweet."
Shawn Spencer: "There’s no way I’m saying that."
that's my guess, too.
"Sniff some krazy glue, and start a religion!"- The Reverend Billy Lard
by Gaijin_Suketto on Jan 26, 2010 3:34 PM PST up reply actions
i'm guessing he makes the rotation unless he has a setback in spring training
A's v Giants "is kind of like the difference between going to see the Ramones and going to see the Bee Gees. A's fans will go see the Ramones."
-BB 07/27/05
he recently had an interview on CSN.com
You have to include smiley faces - Poppy
;- ) :- ) :-O : -> : -] : -}
Which reanimation spell did they use to set that one up, Animate Dead or Zombify?
Shawn Spencer: "I’m receiving a transmission from your husband. Really more of a voicemail, if I'm being honest. A status update. Perhaps a twitter."
Burton Guster: "I believe it’s called a tweet."
Shawn Spencer: "There’s no way I’m saying that."
Injuries Likely
But lots of backups.
Outman gets back mid season right?
You can change your job, you can change your wife, you can even change your gender, but you can never change your club.
Win or lose, we will always be here for you.
Fear no foe, wherever we go.
by johnjahafanclub on Jan 26, 2010 11:12 AM PST up reply actions
I wouldn't count on him much this year. Maybe in the pen.
Also he wasn’t really as good as his ERA even when healthy.
But baseball! Fuck yeah! -- lynnzgal
by WaddellCanseco on Jan 26, 2010 5:19 PM PST up reply actions
Why? They tried to sign Scutaro, Carroll, Beltre and Chapman
But baseball! Fuck yeah! -- lynnzgal
by WaddellCanseco on Jan 26, 2010 5:34 PM PST up reply actions
Sheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeets!
Boy that will be fun to yell when he is just dealing on people.
Bring back Hammer.
I guarantee if he's pitching a game that I'm attending, I will exclaim
‘Holy Sheets!’
book it.
I suspect that you think tilting at windmills means something other than what it does.
Hey, something to be excited about
But, seriously. We need Ben Sheets and Justin Duchscherer to stay healthy. Let’s see how that goes.
we in the losin baseball binness. and cousin, binness is a boomin.
If we can get a full season of pitching between the two of them, I'm happy.
They call their best player "Kung Fu Panda" and they complain that people aren’t taking them or the game seriously enough? -Nick
by mikev on Jan 26, 2010 10:21 AM PST up reply actions 1 recs
We won't
But if we can keep them healthy through mid-July that will be good enough.
The monster at the end of this blog.
Already assuming he'll be dealt at the deadline?
They call their best player "Kung Fu Panda" and they complain that people aren’t taking them or the game seriously enough? -Nick
$500 K clause in the contract if he does...
So I ain’t the only one considering the possibility.
The monster at the end of this blog.
"When I show up at the winter meetings
I’ve got a big roll of bills in my pocket. But by the time I get to Spring Training…"
[stands up, pulls empty pockets inside-out from his pants]
"And Julio Franco is batting right-handed!" -- Wayne Hagin, A's radio play-by-play, mid-80s
Love that scene
I seen Clay’s lawyer, Billy Murphy, in action in real life. He basically played himself for the part in the Wire.
A's v Giants "is kind of like the difference between going to see the Ramones and going to see the Bee Gees. A's fans will go see the Ramones."
-BB 07/27/05
by xbhaskarx on Jan 26, 2010 1:13 PM PST up reply actions 2 recs
That's amazing. I'm swiping that.
www.zekeishungry.com
by thejd44 on Jan 26, 2010 1:13 PM PST up reply actions
What a nice morning already
Sheets has signed
ABDC Season 5 crews announced today.
1. South: Jungle Boogie, Ghost, X-treme Motion, Royal Flush, Swagger Crew
2. East: Saltare, Blueprint, Legendary Seven (aka Street Legends, the crew with Status Quo members), Static Noyze, DraZtik
3. West: Blended Projekt, BreakEFX, Heavy Impact (aka Heavy Hitters), Poreotix, Hype 5.0
America's Best Dance Crew
it’s on MTV.
You have to include smiley faces - Poppy
;- ) :- ) :-O : -> : -] : -}
Run!
People are getting SERVED!
"Sniff some krazy glue, and start a religion!"- The Reverend Billy Lard
by Gaijin_Suketto on Jan 26, 2010 11:13 AM PST up reply actions
thankfully
I have never heard that expression used on the show.
You have to include smiley faces - Poppy
;- ) :- ) :-O : -> : -] : -}
it's not for everyone ;-)
I’ve seen some sweet moves on that show though. The winner of season 3 had a guy do a back flip and another pushed him sideways mid-flip and he stuck the landing and went into their signature stance.
You have to include smiley faces - Poppy
;- ) :- ) :-O : -> : -] : -}
Dancing is like sports-entertainment.
I personally prefer more steroids and posturing with my sports-entertainment,
but hell, when’s the last time HHH did a backflip and landed in the splits?
"Sniff some krazy glue, and start a religion!"- The Reverend Billy Lard
by Gaijin_Suketto on Jan 26, 2010 3:36 PM PST up reply actions
Right after the '64 election?
[doesn’t know who any other HHHs are]
Shawn Spencer: "I’m receiving a transmission from your husband. Really more of a voicemail, if I'm being honest. A status update. Perhaps a twitter."
Burton Guster: "I believe it’s called a tweet."
Shawn Spencer: "There’s no way I’m saying that."
Triple H was a MAN
In the political sense.
"Smokey, this be not the foul jungles of the darkest East Orient. This be ninepins. We are bound by laws."
After the backflip and the splits he lifted up the roof of the Metrodome.
Singlehandedly.
Always the summers are slipping away.
Find me a way for making it stay.
They still use his hot air to keep it inflated.
What are we at the park for except to win? I'd trip my mother. I'd help her up, brusher her off, tell her I'm sorry. But mother don't make it to third. ~Leo Durocher
[me neither]
There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, Than are dreamt of in your philosophy.
I love Layla Kayleigh
"Smokey, this be not the foul jungles of the darkest East Orient. This be ninepins. We are bound by laws."
Also, Andy Murray was awesome last night
I suspect that you think tilting at windmills means something other than what it does.
He did look damn good
But there still is that one other guy out there. If Murray plays like he did against Rafa, there’s only that one person I could see beating him.
"Loyal? I'm the most loyal player money can buy." - Don Sutton
Yeah, having watched British tennis players for the last twenty years or so
the 2009 Athletics 9th innning tease has nothing on them.
Roger Federer is a great tennis player, and a real joy to watch. I think he’ll win it, no matter who he plays in the final
I suspect that you think tilting at windmills means something other than what it does.
No.
"The A's get some action but they do not score..." -Glen Kuiper
"Anyone who calls themselves the Angels Angels should have to start over and ride the short bus." -timmeh from McCovey Chronicles
No what?
I suspect that you think tilting at windmills means something other than what it does.
lol
"The A's get some action but they do not score..." -Glen Kuiper
"Anyone who calls themselves the Angels Angels should have to start over and ride the short bus." -timmeh from McCovey Chronicles
This conversation is now confusing me
I suspect that you think tilting at windmills means something other than what it does.
don't worry about it
it was a joke
"The A's get some action but they do not score..." -Glen Kuiper
"Anyone who calls themselves the Angels Angels should have to start over and ride the short bus." -timmeh from McCovey Chronicles
ah, sorry. my bad
I suspect that you think tilting at windmills means something other than what it does.
Puts the team WAR at around 79.5 wins
according to my spreadsheet. Still room for some more improvement??
vr, Xei
you mean 79.5 wins right?
not wins above replacement. If we’re at 80 wins without the replacement baseline added in, then hell, let’s blow the farm system on Hanley Ramirez and go for the World Series!
haha, yes the common sense answer
total wins. WAR + Replacement = 79.5 wins. Thanks for asking. :)
vr, Xei
My heart tells me higher
My head says that’s about right.
"Loyal? I'm the most loyal player money can buy." - Don Sutton
Even so
The absolute difference between #1 and #4 in the AL West is not all that great. If the A’s were plopped down in the AL East, they’d have no chance because the Yankees and Red Sox will both win 95+ games and the Rays around 90. Even projected at around 79.5 wins or even 81 if they add a few more pieces, the A’s will have a realistic chance at winning the AL West.
vr, Xei
Hows his stuff?
And I mean that in the most homo heterosexual way possible. I read the reports of a high 80’s to low 90’s fastball with a mid 70’s breaking velocity. At one time he was a high 90’s power arm with breaking stuff in the 70’s. Understandingly velocity is not everything but are we being hyped into a fever pitch a little early?
"-i never said half the things i said." --Yogi Berra
I like the move
If he returns to form he will be invaluable in a young rotation like ours. If we are terrible Beane will have the option to flip him for some prospects.
"-i never said half the things i said." --Yogi Berra
I can see Sheets and Duke as Big time trade candidates at the trade deadline
BB could cash in on some good prospects just from these two if they are healthy.
On the other hand. OMG… what a list of pitchers! It is a good problem to have.
"Whether you think you can, or you think you can't, either way, YOU'RE RIGHT !"
prospects are also great to collect
Let’s trade everybody on the roster for minor leaguers. Looking forward to 2015!
hold on a second
this has nothing to do with collecting prospects. Shouldn’t you be in favor of Beane signing a big name free agent? Sure, Sheets has some health-related baggage, but he has been a genuinely elite pitcher almost every time he has been on the mound.
Not like we haven't seen a pitcher trying to come back from an injury!
It’ll be some fun if he pans out for as much of the season as we have of him!
TROLL!
"Sniff some krazy glue, and start a religion!"- The Reverend Billy Lard
by Gaijin_Suketto on Jan 26, 2010 11:18 AM PST up reply actions
Why not win now? Trade for Hanley Ramirez
To Florida: Barton, Sweeney, Pennington, Cahill, Mazzarro
A’s: Put Ramirez at SS. Carter, Fox or Chavez at 1B, Taylor in RF
Mazzarro and Cahill will probably not be traded.. too valuable, especially since both Duke and Sheets will be only this year
"Whether you think you can, or you think you can't, either way, YOU'RE RIGHT !"
once you trade Cahill and Mazzaro
then you are making a huge bet that Duke and Sheets both stay healthy all season. I’m much happier with having Cahill, Mazzaro, and eventually Outman, in the wings for when the two veterans go down.
You're assuming the Marlins would trade Ramirez
And that the package you’re offering would actually entice them.
The monster at the end of this blog.
very true
A’s have quite a collection of “average” players and duplicate prospects. Time to trade quantity for quality.
Not what I'm saying
I’m not sure that package actually fills any needs/wants the Marlins might have.
The monster at the end of this blog.
TROLL TROLL TROLL!
"Sniff some krazy glue, and start a religion!"- The Reverend Billy Lard
by Gaijin_Suketto on Jan 26, 2010 11:19 AM PST up reply actions
Are you telling everyone that YOU are a TROLL ?
"Whether you think you can, or you think you can't, either way, YOU'RE RIGHT !"
yeah
I didn’t even get to that point in my comment above. Cahill plus Mazzaro is a pretty nice haul in most trades, but we’re talking about a top ten in all of baseball type player, who also happens to still be young. My guess is that any Marlins follower would find this proposal hilarious / infuriating.
Make an offer they can't refuse
Think A’s can afford to stockpile the financially strapped Marlins with cheap young players.
They're not dumb though.
They call their best player "Kung Fu Panda" and they complain that people aren’t taking them or the game seriously enough? -Nick
and neither are we
Might as well just air drop some cash over Dirt Bike Stadium (or wherever they play now) while we’re at it
"Do I talk to myself? No, I just remind myself of what I'm trying to do. You know, I never answer myself so how can I be talking to myself?" - Rickey
by cuppingmaster on Jan 26, 2010 10:58 AM PST up reply actions
That deal ended before super bowl
It was actually already renamed again. It’s Sun Life Stadium now.
by Athletix Man on Jan 26, 2010 2:03 PM PST up reply actions
I like that name.
There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, Than are dreamt of in your philosophy.
Let's not insult other teams' stadia
The Marlins are getting a new park before the A’s.
"Loyal? I'm the most loyal player money can buy." - Don Sutton
All the more reason to insult their current facility
From what I have heard, it is no better than the Coli
"Do I talk to myself? No, I just remind myself of what I'm trying to do. You know, I never answer myself so how can I be talking to myself?" - Rickey
by cuppingmaster on Jan 26, 2010 11:09 AM PST up reply actions
How do they compare...
… in dealing with games after football starts? Is one statistically or noticably worse?
by Tim Blekicks on Jan 26, 2010 7:15 PM PST up reply actions
Can I insult you for helping to resurrect
archaic plurals for no good reason?
I hope it’s not too late to nip this one in the bud. Using stadia to refer to sporting complexes is a modern affectation. Neither etymology nor tradition supports it, and it blurs a useful distinction between it and the unit of length.
There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, Than are dreamt of in your philosophy.
by iglew on Jan 26, 2010 1:58 PM PST up reply actions 2 recs
you need a cat.
Sock puppets have never been able to successfully attack castles. -NM
by Leopold Bloom on Jan 26, 2010 5:13 PM PST up reply actions
Hi
Don was looking for you earlier.
The Ultimate Opportunist
by Rated-R Superstar on Jan 26, 2010 5:15 PM PST up reply actions
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Shawn Spencer: "I’m receiving a transmission from your husband. Really more of a voicemail, if I'm being honest. A status update. Perhaps a twitter."
Burton Guster: "I believe it’s called a tweet."
Shawn Spencer: "There’s no way I’m saying that."
I love me my archaic plurals though
I pluralize prius as prii and bus as bi. Beat those.
"Loyal? I'm the most loyal player money can buy." - Don Sutton
Puts a whole new meaning on bi-sexual
I suspect that you think tilting at windmills means something other than what it does.
Hmm, a challenge. Let's see:
Plural of “oaktoon” is “oaktoa”? So you could say, “I can’t remember if it was windyfelix or madmongoose or someone else, but I’m sure it was one of the oaktoa.”
I like “Prii”. My sister and I used to say “bi” for buses when we were kids.
My concern about “stadia” is that people will actually take it seriously and think it’s somehow more correct. For that, I was willing to be irritating.
There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, Than are dreamt of in your philosophy.
Or how 'bout this?
How many games would you win if you had a rotation of five Tim Linceca?
There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, Than are dreamt of in your philosophy.
420?
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
Sorry, the correct answer was 2100
m*****f***ing c***s***ing peanut butter and jelly!! f*** f*** f***!!!
we need to hold symposia
to see what the data show. Or maybe there are compendia out there somewhere to look this up.
"Do I talk to myself? No, I just remind myself of what I'm trying to do. You know, I never answer myself so how can I be talking to myself?" - Rickey
by cuppingmaster on Jan 26, 2010 10:18 PM PST up reply actions
it'll never happen
but what kind of package would it take to get Hanley?
My guess is that Anderson would have to be in it (i.e. someone who is both young/cheap but has also shown elite ability in the Majors). Maybe Anderson plus either Carter or Taylor?
At least.
Think about it — they got Miller and Maybin for Miguel Cabrera AND they made Detroit take Dontrelle Willis.
They call their best player "Kung Fu Panda" and they complain that people aren’t taking them or the game seriously enough? -Nick
Well, they didn't make Detroit sign Willis to that ridiculous contract
He was an asset at the time, or seemed to be one. Then again, there were some chaffy minor players thrown in as well. Interpreting the trade as simply “Miller and Maybin for Cabrera” is logical.
Shawn Spencer: "I’m receiving a transmission from your husband. Really more of a voicemail, if I'm being honest. A status update. Perhaps a twitter."
Burton Guster: "I believe it’s called a tweet."
Shawn Spencer: "There’s no way I’m saying that."
No, they didn't.
But Willis was going to get a pay raise either way.
They call their best player "Kung Fu Panda" and they complain that people aren’t taking them or the game seriously enough? -Nick
They could have nontendered him
Shawn Spencer: "I’m receiving a transmission from your husband. Really more of a voicemail, if I'm being honest. A status update. Perhaps a twitter."
Burton Guster: "I believe it’s called a tweet."
Shawn Spencer: "There’s no way I’m saying that."
Willis's value was interesting at the time
Half of Baseball thought he could rebound to become an Ace.
The other half (including a lot of AN at the time) thought he was done, and that the Marlins were geniuses for getting value for someone whom would be less than worthless next season.
The latter group was proved right.
In a perfect world... spammers would get caught, go to jail, and share a cell with many men who have enlarged their penisses, taken Viagra and are looking for a new relationship.
it was pretty much saint vs everyone else on AN
A's v Giants "is kind of like the difference between going to see the Ramones and going to see the Bee Gees. A's fans will go see the Ramones."
-BB 07/27/05
Well I think AN would have taken Willis
but more in a “We’ll give you Dan Johnson for him”
In a perfect world... spammers would get caught, go to jail, and share a cell with many men who have enlarged their penisses, taken Viagra and are looking for a new relationship.
Oh so now you're going with the whole "group mentality thing"?
AN vs saint? What a pile of garbage dude. That’s exactly why my friend saint doesn’t even post here anymore. I’ll save the profanity because it’s not worth it……
Zeigler to Geren…."A-Rod? He’s my bitch." -alox
LOL. i have no idea what you're talking about, or what you're pissed off about
here’s the diary, see for yourself:
The D-Train Belongs in Oakland:
i don’t see a whole lot of support for a willis trade. i’m not sure whether that’s “group mentality” or “not being retarded” but those are the facts.
A's v Giants "is kind of like the difference between going to see the Ramones and going to see the Bee Gees. A's fans will go see the Ramones."
-BB 07/27/05
I'm really not a fan of saint's "rah rah rah" writing style.
It’s like permanently having Ray Lewis yell at you in the huddle for months on end.
Always the summers are slipping away.
Find me a way for making it stay.
except Saint probably won't kill you.
Ray Lewis, you never know…
They call their best player "Kung Fu Panda" and they complain that people aren’t taking them or the game seriously enough? -Nick
i have met saint a few times and i like the guy
but i have no interest in his baseball (and probably sports) opinions.
but again, all i was saying is he was pretty much alone in pushing for willis.
A's v Giants "is kind of like the difference between going to see the Ramones and going to see the Bee Gees. A's fans will go see the Ramones."
-BB 07/27/05
I'm familiar with the diary. "Not being retarded?" Whatever, man.
And I’m not pissed off at you xb. I’m just really annoyed with your comment, and this is not the first time. On a more personal level, saint is a really good friend of mine and I know one of the reasons he doesn’t post here on AN much anymore is because of posters like yourself. It goes back years……I’ll just leave it at that.
Zeigler to Geren…."A-Rod? He’s my bitch." -alox
in my original comment i stated a fact, i wasn't even giving my personal opinion on a willis trade
i don’t see what reason there was for anyone to be pissed off or annoyed.
again, i like saint personally, but i don’t really care where he does and doesn’t post.
A's v Giants "is kind of like the difference between going to see the Ramones and going to see the Bee Gees. A's fans will go see the Ramones."
-BB 07/27/05
Let's just leave it at that shall we?
I’m more interested in the fact that Beane inked Sheets today….!
Go A’s!
Zeigler to Geren…."A-Rod? He’s my bitch." -alox
By "just leaving it at that"
You’re pretty conveniently not acknowledging the man’s perfectly valid points. Why even post here then?
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by thejd44 on Jan 26, 2010 8:46 PM PST up reply actions
To make friendly conversation?
Not everything has to be a debate.
There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, Than are dreamt of in your philosophy.
by iglew on Jan 26, 2010 8:52 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Yes it does!
No it doesn’t!
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
Because I don't feel like wasting anymore time
on the subject. If you don’t agree then you don’t agree…..now leave it alone!
Zeigler to Geren…."A-Rod? He’s my bitch." -alox
I would trade the world for Hanley
Unfortunately it wouldn’t be enough. The Marlins already were in trouble with MLB for not spending enough money. Trading Hanley would make MLB even angrier. Plus, they’re getting a new stadium and Hanley is the face of their franchise. Point being, the Marlins would need a ton to move him. That package doesn’t come close.
"Loyal? I'm the most loyal player money can buy." - Don Sutton
That conversation would start with Taylor and Carter...
Add two more B players and you might have a package that could land Hanley.
And that, likely, would be about ten times worse than the AJ to the Giants trade
Hanley is awesome and all, but for a guy who is playing out of position, moving to a tougher league, and is due a crapload of money? Yeah, no thanks.
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by thejd44 on Jan 26, 2010 1:23 PM PST up reply actions
not due much money
signed a very team friendly deal.
In a perfect world... spammers would get caught, go to jail, and share a cell with many men who have enlarged their penisses, taken Viagra and are looking for a new relationship.
It'd make more sense if Carter and Taylor were like
“yeah, they’ll be good, probably, and replace X and Y in a few years, nice”, and not “Holy crap if these guys don’t work out at major league level then the A’s are kinda screwed”
I suspect that you think tilting at windmills means something other than what it does.
Also reported by The Drumbeat
Find the article here
24 is my age 22 is my gauge
by catfishunterSthompson on Jan 26, 2010 10:36 AM PST reply actions
Wow, $10M *plus* incentives?
That’s… a lot of money for a guy who didn’t pitch last year.
They call their best player "Kung Fu Panda" and they complain that people aren’t taking them or the game seriously enough? -Nick
$10 million for a very poor hitter
Sheets batting average .076
by BlueMoon on Jan 26, 2010 10:42 AM PST reply actions 1 recs
He should fit right in!
...and the future is now!
by gio_is_the_future on Jan 26, 2010 11:06 AM PST up reply actions
I saw yours before it disappeared.
Yours was better, but there were already about 25 comments here, so you have to defer to that.
There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, Than are dreamt of in your philosophy.
Teh Internet values speed over content.
No community guidelines can unhorse that windmill.
There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, Than are dreamt of in your philosophy.
No. It's up to 10 million, from what Urban just said in an interview
He says the salary is closer to 8 million with the incentives possibly driving it to 10 million.
Zeigler to Geren…."A-Rod? He’s my bitch." -alox
We are big pimpin on pitching now
I am getting… dare I say it… excited about our team!
"Do I talk to myself? No, I just remind myself of what I'm trying to do. You know, I never answer myself so how can I be talking to myself?" - Rickey
Top 2 guys in the rotation made 0 pitches last year
But I don’t even care right now! That rotation looks amazing on paper. I’m gonna go off to happy thought land, where pitchers stay healthy and Chavez plays 1 more game in an A’s uniform before his back gives out…
"I was right and you were wrong." - Ray Fosse
Wet blanket
or sheet
"Tonto think Billy Beane need to make team full of squirrels and bears."
by OptimistPrime on Jan 26, 2010 11:22 AM PST up reply actions
that means they're due!
and fresh!
I suspect that you think tilting at windmills means something other than what it does.
I want to see Chavez play in at least five games next year.
One at each position: 1B, 2B, SS, LF, and RF.
There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, Than are dreamt of in your philosophy.
I'm not greedy
I’m hoping for 5 innings, one at each position.
CuttheMullet, from "The Thread":
"Whenever I’m about to do something, I think "would an idiot do that?" and if they would, I do not do that thing."
With Duke and Sheets,
the A’s are going for it — in the “Comeback Player of the Year” sweepstakes!
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
Hey, they've got to beat out one B. Crosby
I suspect that you think tilting at windmills means something other than what it does.
I have a feeling BoCro might win MVP next year
….nahhh
"The A's get some action but they do not score..." -Glen Kuiper
"Anyone who calls themselves the Angels Angels should have to start over and ride the short bus." -timmeh from McCovey Chronicles
Is that you, Peter Gammons?
will crosby spread his legs so far apart at bat that the games will have to be rated nc-17 -- emperor nobody
I'll take it
Now sign Erik Bedard and my evil master plan of having an amazing pitching staff that will be injured all year will be complete.
On a serious note, the A’s need to trade for a better SS and they’ll have had a B+ offseason.
"Loyal? I'm the most loyal player money can buy." - Don Sutton
Jed Lowrie!!!
He’s my new Brandon Inge.
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
But... that means trading with Boston.
They call their best player "Kung Fu Panda" and they complain that people aren’t taking them or the game seriously enough? -Nick
I fail to see your point
Shawn Spencer: "I’m receiving a transmission from your husband. Really more of a voicemail, if I'm being honest. A status update. Perhaps a twitter."
Burton Guster: "I believe it’s called a tweet."
Shawn Spencer: "There’s no way I’m saying that."
I'm sort of opposed to giving them anything that may help them in the present or future.
They call their best player "Kung Fu Panda" and they complain that people aren’t taking them or the game seriously enough? -Nick
Cutting off your nose to spite your face much?
Shawn Spencer: "I’m receiving a transmission from your husband. Really more of a voicemail, if I'm being honest. A status update. Perhaps a twitter."
Burton Guster: "I believe it’s called a tweet."
Shawn Spencer: "There’s no way I’m saying that."
I know.
I’m just sayin… screw Boston.
They call their best player "Kung Fu Panda" and they complain that people aren’t taking them or the game seriously enough? -Nick
Boston
They call their best player "Kung Fu Panda" and they complain that people aren’t taking them or the game seriously enough? -Nick
PL78 forgot to mention we're gonna get Theo liquored up first
Which shouldn’t take long. You can just tell that dude is a lightweight.
"Smokey, this be not the foul jungles of the darkest East Orient. This be ninepins. We are bound by laws."
"I bet you I can break this table with my forehead."
There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, Than are dreamt of in your philosophy.
SPRING BREAK!
In a perfect world... spammers would get caught, go to jail, and share a cell with many men who have enlarged their penisses, taken Viagra and are looking for a new relationship.
I met Lowrie's girlfriend's mom
at a bed and breakfast in Boston. Jed and his girlfriend were supposed to come by later that morning to pick her up, but I decided that it would be too creepy to just hang around.
Sorry about her fandom
"Do I talk to myself? No, I just remind myself of what I'm trying to do. You know, I never answer myself so how can I be talking to myself?" - Rickey
by cuppingmaster on Jan 26, 2010 11:11 AM PST up reply actions
how in the world did you find out who she was?
You have to include smiley faces - Poppy
;- ) :- ) :-O : -> : -] : -}
we were sitting at the breakfast table
and somehow got talking about Stanford (maybe she was wearing a Stanford shirt?), which is where I went to school, and also where her daughter and Lowrie met. I think at some point I asked her why she was in Boston and she said “oh, my daughter’s boyfriend plays for the Red Sox”. Of course, this was last June, so Lowrie was definitely in the middle of a long stint on the DL.
Stanford
Ugh, I hate them more than the Red Sox.
The Ultimate Opportunist
by Rated-R Superstar on Jan 26, 2010 11:49 AM PST up reply actions
Colleges
I really don’t have a problem with any besides UCLA, USC and Stanford. Oh, and it’s fun to root against Duke in college basketball. That’s about it.
The Ultimate Opportunist
by Rated-R Superstar on Jan 26, 2010 11:50 AM PST up reply actions
Sure
I guess we could go with that.
The Ultimate Opportunist
by Rated-R Superstar on Jan 26, 2010 11:55 AM PST up reply actions
As a Stanford fan and Duke basketball fan who has lots of friends at UCLA,
I must disagree with your hatred. Except for USC of course. What’s with all the animosity towards cool schools?
"Loyal? I'm the most loyal player money can buy." - Don Sutton
He fancies himself a Cal fan and has to hate all the appropriate people to fit in at CGB
Shawn Spencer: "I’m receiving a transmission from your husband. Really more of a voicemail, if I'm being honest. A status update. Perhaps a twitter."
Burton Guster: "I believe it’s called a tweet."
Shawn Spencer: "There’s no way I’m saying that."
I never didn't like schools or sports teams
I supported my school, but I could give a toss about rivalries. I went to UCLA during (or just after, don’t really remember) the softball hoax years. A pox on all their houses.
"The ego, the super-ego, and the Ed" - danmerqury
I admit, I don't like people blasting for their school
but, I can’t get upset at the sports teams.
"The ego, the super-ego, and the Ed" - danmerqury
Personally, I find it bizarre because the conference doing well helps every team in the conference
I’m fine with hating on non-Pac-10 teams like Duke basketball, but rooting for Pac-10 teams to lose because of some petulant sour grapes logic is foolhardy.
Shawn Spencer: "I’m receiving a transmission from your husband. Really more of a voicemail, if I'm being honest. A status update. Perhaps a twitter."
Burton Guster: "I believe it’s called a tweet."
Shawn Spencer: "There’s no way I’m saying that."
The thing that is cool about your conference doing well
and thus making your school more famous is when you go on a job interview in another state, you don’t have to explain what college you attended.
"The ego, the super-ego, and the Ed" - danmerqury
[looks annoyed about the poor athletic reputation of SCIAC]
Shawn Spencer: "I’m receiving a transmission from your husband. Really more of a voicemail, if I'm being honest. A status update. Perhaps a twitter."
Burton Guster: "I believe it’s called a tweet."
Shawn Spencer: "There’s no way I’m saying that."
D3 undergrad and DePaul for grad school = I'm in the same boat
I can only hang onto Rod Strickland’s relative awesomeness for so long.
www.zekeishungry.com
by thejd44 on Jan 26, 2010 1:26 PM PST up reply actions
Best sportsperson from the school I went to:
Sam Smith, tennis player. Highest rank, 55 on the WTA.
winner.
I suspect that you think tilting at windmills means something other than what it does.
I can only claim Randy Johnson
oh.. that’s not so bad.
They call their best player "Kung Fu Panda" and they complain that people aren’t taking them or the game seriously enough? -Nick
Actually, I did go to high school with someone who went on
to become Team GB’s third highest ranked triple jumper.
I am connected
I suspect that you think tilting at windmills means something other than what it does.
Two championship wrestlers for me
This guy from my senior class at Cupertino High in 1981 was state champ at 140 lbs, and I had a student during summer term 1986 at Iowa State who won the NCAA title in 1987 at 158 lbs (the year Iowa State ended Iowa’s 9-year team title winning streak).
Hey Al, just go away, baby.
I don't even have a grad school team to rely on
Stupid independent law school.
Shawn Spencer: "I’m receiving a transmission from your husband. Really more of a voicemail, if I'm being honest. A status update. Perhaps a twitter."
Burton Guster: "I believe it’s called a tweet."
Shawn Spencer: "There’s no way I’m saying that."
Woot! Go DePaul...
granted, we suck at everything, but…
In a perfect world... spammers would get caught, go to jail, and share a cell with many men who have enlarged their penisses, taken Viagra and are looking for a new relationship.
I went to Wikipedia to look up who my school's most famous athlete alumni is
and following the athletic section for alumni is a list for notable criminal graduates. Go Unabomber, class of ’62!
Having rivals makes the difference
I can’t truck with wishing death on every Pac-10 team— and in fact, I root for the Pac-10 in general during the bowl season— but rivals inspire a different kind of hate. For my Eugene born-and-bred colleagues, that means hoping Washington and Oregon State lose by 50 every single game, no questions asked.
My undergrad institution being the University of Idaho, I feel the same way about Boise State and their semi-literate fans. I’d like to see the WAC do well… but I’d rather see BSU get embarrassed on national television.
"Smokey, this be not the foul jungles of the darkest East Orient. This be ninepins. We are bound by laws."
That's how I feel about the division in MLB.
I generally root for the other AL West teams when they’re not playing the A’s.
There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, Than are dreamt of in your philosophy.
Even the Angels?!?!?!?!
I’m… I’m feeling faint…
"Smokey, this be not the foul jungles of the darkest East Orient. This be ninepins. We are bound by laws."
That analogy doesn't wash though
MLB divisions don’t have reputations that impact how well teams from that division are seeded and ranked in national competitions. College teams have self-interested reasons to favor teams from their conference doing well against other leagues. MLB teams have self-interested reasons to want teams from their divisions to do BADLY when playing other divisions.
Ceteris paribus, etc etc, that makes a big difference.
Shawn Spencer: "I’m receiving a transmission from your husband. Really more of a voicemail, if I'm being honest. A status update. Perhaps a twitter."
Burton Guster: "I believe it’s called a tweet."
Shawn Spencer: "There’s no way I’m saying that."
To me it works.
The generic idea that if your conference does well it reflects well on you still applies. The only difference is that in college they formalize that into the official ranking/scoring system while in MLB they don’t.
As you might guess, I place emphasis on the championship rankings than you do.
There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, Than are dreamt of in your philosophy.
You prefer "power rankings" to playoffs?
So weird. I mean, the reason why pro sports don’t have to resort to that kind of thing is because they can actually have a legitimate system where everyone plays everyone.
The notion of replacing the playoffs with some kind of BCS-type system of fuzzy weighing of divisional reputations, etc etc is ridiculous.
Shawn Spencer: "I’m receiving a transmission from your husband. Really more of a voicemail, if I'm being honest. A status update. Perhaps a twitter."
Burton Guster: "I believe it’s called a tweet."
Shawn Spencer: "There’s no way I’m saying that."
Sorry for the confusion. That was supposed to be
“I place less emphasis…”
Basically, I like to win games, and I also like it if the opponents I play most often win games.
For both MLB and college, this matters to me more than what they do to sort out teams in the post season.
There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, Than are dreamt of in your philosophy.
Opponents you play most often winning games
is a strong predictor of you winning fewer games in the future.
When it comes to college, reputation/conference prestige effects cancel this out. There are no such effects in MLB.
Shawn Spencer: "I’m receiving a transmission from your husband. Really more of a voicemail, if I'm being honest. A status update. Perhaps a twitter."
Burton Guster: "I believe it’s called a tweet."
Shawn Spencer: "There’s no way I’m saying that."
And precisely because
your frequent opponents winning more games correlates to you winning fewer games, the games you do win mean more.
Does it mean more to beat the Yankees than it does to beat the Royals? I think it does. And for the same reason, I think a 81-81 record in an awesome division means more than a 81-81 record in a crappy division.
The prestige effects are all in the eye of the beholder. I’ve already acknowledged that MLB rules don’t formalize it. We’re not disagreeing on the facts here, just on what we choose to care about.
There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, Than are dreamt of in your philosophy.
The prestige effects are NOT "all in the eye of the beholder"
College programs recruit based on reputation. They can’t pay off guys to come there (notwithstanding the occasional O.J. Mayo conspiracy).
Professional teams recruit based overwhelmingly on money.
Shawn Spencer: "I’m receiving a transmission from your husband. Really more of a voicemail, if I'm being honest. A status update. Perhaps a twitter."
Burton Guster: "I believe it’s called a tweet."
Shawn Spencer: "There’s no way I’m saying that."
Prestige = what people think of you.
Thus, it is in the eyes of many beholders by definition.
I’m not sure why you keep making an argument out of this.
This topic began with people discussing whether they like to root for or against nearby rivals. How much more subjective could a topic be? My first post on the subject even started out with “That’s how I feel”.
You keep going on about national rankings and post-season seeding and recruiting ability, as if somehow that makes us wrong to root how we do. You care about those things because they affect your team’s chances of winning more games and/or championships. Yeah, we get that. And you find it “bizarre” that others would feel differently. OK, fair enough.
But I still don’t see why you need to be disputatious about it. Like I said, we’re not actually disagreeing on any facts. I do know how the system works. I still root for AL West teams because I like it when the home division is the best division. Yes, even the Angels. So sue me.
There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, Than are dreamt of in your philosophy.
Well that's just like, your opinion, man.
You place less of an importance on rivalries than he does.
Have you ever been a part of a rivlary in some way shape or form? If not, perhaps you just don’t understand them then?
by Pucking Insane on Jan 26, 2010 4:00 PM PST up reply actions
You can't have a "rivalry" with frigging half of your yearly schedule
Shawn Spencer: "I’m receiving a transmission from your husband. Really more of a voicemail, if I'm being honest. A status update. Perhaps a twitter."
Burton Guster: "I believe it’s called a tweet."
Shawn Spencer: "There’s no way I’m saying that."
The Irish schedule consists of such.
Not that we’ve been any good to do anything about it in 15 years.
Sock puppets have never been able to successfully attack castles. -NM
by Leopold Bloom on Jan 26, 2010 5:46 PM PST up reply actions
Stanford is very far from cool
With stout hearts, and with enthusiasm for the contest, let us go forward to victory. ----Hero Defector Montgomery
Come on how is this not cool?
"The A's get some action but they do not score..." -Glen Kuiper
"Anyone who calls themselves the Angels Angels should have to start over and ride the short bus." -timmeh from McCovey Chronicles
Awesome...Best mascot around.
Bring back Hammer.
by OaktownPower on Jan 26, 2010 3:47 PM PST up reply actions
Except being one of the top academic schools,
while still maintaining one of the top overall sports programs.
Keep in mind, of course, that "the best defense of Derek Jeter's life" ranks somewhere in between "the best fiscal responsibility of Mike Tyson's life" and "the best not-getting-assassinated-ness of James Garfield's life." -FJM
I'm convinced that if people had ANY idea what a terrible person Coach K was
Their fan base would be cut in half.
www.zekeishungry.com
by thejd44 on Jan 26, 2010 1:24 PM PST up reply actions
Your Pac-10 hate is strong, youngblood
As an Oregon student, I must hate USC and (after last season) Standford as well.
"Smokey, this be not the foul jungles of the darkest East Orient. This be ninepins. We are bound by laws."
Woo!
Always good to add another member to the Lowrie to Oakland camp.
"Loyal? I'm the most loyal player money can buy." - Don Sutton
As much as I'd love that
I don’t think it would be a good baseball move. Mulder has no spot on the team… A rotation of Duke, Sheets, Anderson, Braden and one of Cahill, Mazzaro or Gio is already excellent. The bullpen is set.
Signing Sheets, Coco and Duke allows the A’s to have a win-win… Win 1- stay in contention. Win 2- three chips that other teams will covet in July. If you squint hard maybe Mulder can help with contention, but it would be a long shot to be a chip to trade.
A whole new ballgame
How about a 7-man rotation? Nobody gets hurt, everybody has a good time.
"If you make up your mind not to be happy, there's no reason why you shouldn't have a fairly good time." -Edith Wharton (The Last Asset)
by Oakville Athletic on Jan 26, 2010 11:03 AM PST reply actions
but there is a substantial reward
to keeping Cahill down in the minors for a little while. Plus a 7 man rotation cuts into the bullpen, and our bullpen is definitely more stacked than the starting pitching.
Great news
No mention of player only option either. I wonder if the A’s were feeling a little bit of heat to spend after the thing with the Marlins and MLB. Sheets in the Coli is exciting.
by AgitationStation on Jan 26, 2010 11:03 AM PST reply actions
I doubt that the MLB forced them to sign anyone
the Marlins payroll was REALLY low. Last year the A’s signed a bunch of free agents.
You have to include smiley faces - Poppy
;- ) :- ) :-O : -> : -] : -}
Perrotto (BP) comments re: revenue sharing
http://twitter.com/jperrotto/statuses/8245604312
#Athletics signing of Ben Sheets was, in some part, to ward of the MLBPA questioning their use of revenue-sharing money, a la the #Marlins.
by AgitationStation on Jan 26, 2010 11:12 AM PST reply actions
really
the marlins last 4 payroll were about $36, $21, $30, and $14 million (in 2006). the A’s already have $35,357 committed to 9 players (plus Giambi’s buyout) in 2010. The A’s haven’t had a payroll under $47 million since 2002.
You have to include smiley faces - Poppy
;- ) :- ) :-O : -> : -] : -}
re
I understand the extenuating circumstances, but the A’s were an $80 million payroll team in 2007. This was the second year in three they were looking at less than $50 million. When the Marlins stories came out, the Miami Herald said they were bringing in somewhere in the neighborhood of $90 million a year in revenue (including the sharing and mlb.com monies). I’d assume the A’s are in a similar boat. Whatever this new payroll floor directive is from MLB, socking away more than $20 million of revenue sharing money is probably dubious at best. I don’t doubt Perrotto’s comments at all.
by AgitationStation on Jan 26, 2010 11:38 AM PST up reply actions
I guess that makes sense
i was thinking in terms of payroll only and not revenue. good point.
Is there a place to look up the revenue of MLB teams? I was getting salaries from cots.
You have to include smiley faces - Poppy
;- ) :- ) :-O : -> : -] : -}
Revenue is a closely guarded secret
Teams hate opening their books to anyone, because it stops them from crying poor to extort money from local legislatures to build stadia, etc.
Shawn Spencer: "I’m receiving a transmission from your husband. Really more of a voicemail, if I'm being honest. A status update. Perhaps a twitter."
Burton Guster: "I believe it’s called a tweet."
Shawn Spencer: "There’s no way I’m saying that."
gotcha
doesn’t forbes publish baseball revenues sometimes?
You have to include smiley faces - Poppy
;- ) :- ) :-O : -> : -] : -}
now sign Bedard so we can trade him in July!
I’m looking so forward to watching Sheets pitch for a few months. This is so great. Then maybe we can sign Bedard and trade him in July. Then . . .
It’s better than nothing — at least aquiring assets. can’t wait for 2015 when goal is to actually win.
If you repeat your 2015 "joke" a few thousand more times
maybe one reader may crack the slightest smile. But I seriously doubt it.
"We've come a long way, and I'm not talking about Virginia Slims, either." - Art Howe
2015 is realistic not a joke
If you’ve been following the news the A’s are trying to move to the San Jose area where they would attract corporate sponsors and get a new stadium. Their thoughts are that they could compete with the big boys with the increased revenue. Dating back a couple years when the A’s started trading 24-year-olds for 19-year-olds the goal has clearly been to mature a winner in 2015 or whenever new stadium might be ready. For the time being the franchise is trying to entertain fans just enough to keep them interested. Thank god fans like those on this website have taken an interest in the minor league system.
The signing of Sheets and Duke is probably visualized as actually aquiring a AAA shortstop from the Braves or Yankees at the deadline. I am sure Beane and Forst have already got a chart with the 2 or 3 targets they’ll hopefully be flipping Sheets to.
You are crazy
the real window starts in 2011 with a stud rotation and Carter, Cardenas, and Taylor becoming impact players.
But hey, live in your reality for all I care.
Yeah, I'm getting 2012 tattooed on my knuckles
if it doesn’t work out, i’m going to change my name to SIOS
(does that work? maybe not.)
I suspect that you think tilting at windmills means something other than what it does.
2015 would be the possible end of the cycle, or the continuation.
Depending on if there is a new stadium or not.
by LoneStranger on Jan 27, 2010 11:20 AM PST up reply actions
TROLL TROLL TROLL TROLL TROLL!
"Sniff some krazy glue, and start a religion!"- The Reverend Billy Lard
by Gaijin_Suketto on Jan 26, 2010 11:19 AM PST up reply actions
I think I missed something
I hope it was funny and not a bitter fued, unless it was a funny bitter fued.
unhappy little man
Suketto, you seem like an unhappy little man. Leave me alone. I am entitled to my opinion.
I don't think he's unhappy or little,
unless him and his girlfriend are an odd coupling. Which may be.
Sock puppets have never been able to successfully attack castles. -NM
by Leopold Bloom on Jan 26, 2010 5:20 PM PST up reply actions
Seems to me he has a lot of fun here, like the above comment
whining stupid thoughts seems less fun…
With stout hearts, and with enthusiasm for the contest, let us go forward to victory. ----Hero Defector Montgomery
by mikeA on Jan 26, 2010 5:30 PM PST up reply actions 2 recs
love.
Sock puppets have never been able to successfully attack castles. -NM
by Leopold Bloom on Jan 26, 2010 5:31 PM PST up reply actions
Mike I'm pretty sure what the A stands for in your screen name
If you think writng Troll, Troll, Troll after every comment a person makes is clever or having " al lot of fun" then we’re definitely not on the same wavelength.
I’m just an A’s fan who enjoys sharing conversation about my team. Not looking to fit in with jack-offs like you. Have a nice day.
You don't enjoy sharing conversation
Since it’s pretty clear that you just want to vent, which is fine. Just don’t be surprised if others are just as bothered by your shortsighted venting as you apparently are by the A’s signing Sheets.
m*****f***ing c***s***ing peanut butter and jelly!! f*** f*** f***!!!
Not bothered, just realistic
I don’t see any negative in collecting assets. I am excited about the Sheets signing. Look forward to watching him pitch some. You know it’s tough being an A’s fan. Scenerios: #1) A’s do well and Sheets does well = can’t afford him beyond 2010. #2) A’s do poorly and Sheets does well = he gets traded for prospects in July #3) A’s do poorly and Sheets does poorly = $10 million gamble loss.
So, it’s more exciting than doing nothing, but Sheets doesn’t look like a building block for A’s future. Let’s hope for scenerio #1 and enjoy the 2010 season.
Apparently, enough of the AN community doesn't seem to think you're a troll...
so I won’t call you a troll anymore.
I just figured you were the next in a long tradition of poop-stirrers (Oaktoon, WindyFelix, JasonThea, etc…)
but everyone else says you can stay, so I’ll stop pissing in your laundry and telling you the cats did it.
One of your funnies even made my upcoming Quote Of The Month post.
Good Luck.
"Sniff some krazy glue, and start a religion!"- The Reverend Billy Lard
by Gaijin_Suketto on Jan 29, 2010 5:49 PM PST up reply actions
So he can take over for Sheets then!
But baseball! Fuck yeah! -- lynnzgal
by WaddellCanseco on Jan 26, 2010 5:36 PM PST up reply actions
If the A's are contending come July, sure, keep Duke and Sheets
If they aren’t, why wouldn’t you trade them for prospects?
The monster at the end of this blog.
I agree. In the event that the A's are contending at the trade deadline they may decide to o for it
With both Carter and Taylor ready to come up in June… it could be a fun year.
On the other hand.. if the A’s are under 500 come July they could trade Duke, Sheets and Damon (if they sign him) or even Crisp for a lot.
"Whether you think you can, or you think you can't, either way, YOU'RE RIGHT !"
Are they ready to come up?
Is the hole in Carter’s swing patched up? Is Taylor that close?
"The ego, the super-ego, and the Ed" - danmerqury
Taylor's very close
Carter tightened his swing but will always strike out 100+. Good sliders can get him.
The monster at the end of this blog.
Don't good sliders get most hitters?
But baseball! Fuck yeah! -- lynnzgal
by WaddellCanseco on Jan 26, 2010 5:36 PM PST up reply actions
If a hitter can hit a slider
It’s probably not that good.
CuttheMullet, from "The Thread":
"Whenever I’m about to do something, I think "would an idiot do that?" and if they would, I do not do that thing."
There's a difference between good sliders getting a hitter out
And bad sliders still getting a hitter out ’cause he sucks.
The monster at the end of this blog.
Damn you grover! You made me think of Crosby.
Next time you do that I’m capitalizing your name.
But baseball! Fuck yeah! -- lynnzgal
by WaddellCanseco on Jan 27, 2010 12:35 AM PST up reply actions
YAY!!!!
Our rotation is looking dominant! Take that Rangers and Angels!
"Tonto think Billy Beane need to make team full of squirrels and bears."
not looking good for your man
"Do I talk to myself? No, I just remind myself of what I'm trying to do. You know, I never answer myself so how can I be talking to myself?" - Rickey
by cuppingmaster on Jan 26, 2010 11:30 AM PST up reply actions
why, you think he'll be part of a trade to the yankees?
by OakA'sHoney on Jan 26, 2010 11:30 AM PST up reply actions
I think he'll be in AAA or released
"Do I talk to myself? No, I just remind myself of what I'm trying to do. You know, I never answer myself so how can I be talking to myself?" - Rickey
by cuppingmaster on Jan 26, 2010 11:33 AM PST up reply actions
i hope not : (
but i’ll take the rivercat option of the two
by OakA'sHoney on Jan 26, 2010 11:37 AM PST up reply actions
f*ck damon
"Tonto think Billy Beane need to make team full of squirrels and bears."
by OptimistPrime on Jan 26, 2010 11:24 AM PST up reply actions
Only because I need the money
"Smokey, this be not the foul jungles of the darkest East Orient. This be ninepins. We are bound by laws."
no kissing, though
that’s extra
I suspect that you think tilting at windmills means something other than what it does.
Wish I'd thought of that...
"Smokey, this be not the foul jungles of the darkest East Orient. This be ninepins. We are bound by laws."
Where would he play?
Chris Carter is the next Hank Aaron right?
by streetisclosedin08 on Jan 26, 2010 11:24 AM PST up reply actions
in the street
"Tonto think Billy Beane need to make team full of squirrels and bears."
by OptimistPrime on Jan 26, 2010 11:24 AM PST up reply actions
with a bucket of water
That rug really tied the room together...
by Streams Of Whiskey on Jan 26, 2010 11:36 AM PST up reply actions
Surplus?
Crisp and Sweeney haveinjury issues.
Rajai could revert to being a backup at best
They already lost cunningham, hairston, desme, and spencer.
Ideally we wont have to see patterson or fox in the OF.
Will Buck ever get a chance here or be traded himself
by MagicMike23 on Jan 26, 2010 11:26 AM PST up reply actions
Sweeny banged up his knee last year in Chicago
Are there any other incidents I should know about? Damon is a bad fit. His line drive tendency are a kiss of death w/ the foul territory at the coliseum.
Not to mention he is old, sucks and smells of cheese
"Tonto think Billy Beane need to make team full of squirrels and bears."
by OptimistPrime on Jan 26, 2010 11:36 AM PST up reply actions
poor penmanship, etc.
They call their best player "Kung Fu Panda" and they complain that people aren’t taking them or the game seriously enough? -Nick
Hey, I like cheese.
"The A's get some action but they do not score..." -Glen Kuiper
"Anyone who calls themselves the Angels Angels should have to start over and ride the short bus." -timmeh from McCovey Chronicles
Was the last time you checked before or after the Kouzmanoff trade?
There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, Than are dreamt of in your philosophy.
Fuck that.
They call their best player "Kung Fu Panda" and they complain that people aren’t taking them or the game seriously enough? -Nick
my thoughts exactly
"Do I talk to myself? No, I just remind myself of what I'm trying to do. You know, I never answer myself so how can I be talking to myself?" - Rickey
by cuppingmaster on Jan 26, 2010 11:25 AM PST up reply actions
Damn
I hope someone gets desperate and signs him instead.
The Ultimate Opportunist
by Rated-R Superstar on Jan 26, 2010 11:30 AM PST up reply actions
Someone needs to start placing calls and pretending to be the Mets or the Giants
hey, it’d be realistic, at least
I suspect that you think tilting at windmills means something other than what it does.
Is it possible we would then trade
Rajai to the Yankees? Seems odd, but maybe if we got a decent prospect back, it would make sense. We’d essentially be paying 5 million plus the chance to see if Rajai is for real for a good prospect. No, it doesn’t make sense. It’s still odd.
Makes a ton of sense to me
Johnny Damon is better at baseball than Rajai Davis. Upgrade AND get a prospect? Sign me up, please.
Shawn Spencer: "I’m receiving a transmission from your husband. Really more of a voicemail, if I'm being honest. A status update. Perhaps a twitter."
Burton Guster: "I believe it’s called a tweet."
Shawn Spencer: "There’s no way I’m saying that."
Not quite so simple
It also will cost the A’s money and hurt them long term. Then again, I don’t think much of Davis, so I’m with you.
"Loyal? I'm the most loyal player money can buy." - Don Sutton
The money appears to be there to be spent
The long-term impact is near zero, as I can’t see Davis being a viable option beyond 2011 anyway, and Crisp is just as good in 2011.
Shawn Spencer: "I’m receiving a transmission from your husband. Really more of a voicemail, if I'm being honest. A status update. Perhaps a twitter."
Burton Guster: "I believe it’s called a tweet."
Shawn Spencer: "There’s no way I’m saying that."
I guess it depends on the prospect we would get.
If it’s someone like Banuelos quality, then yeah, I’m in.
Are you sure he's better than Rajai?
Are you sure he’ll be better this year?
"To tell the truth, I'm not excited to go to Cleveland, but we have to. If I ever saw myself saying I'm excited going to Cleveland, I'd punch myself in the face, because I'm lying" - Ichiro
by Philip Christy on Jan 26, 2010 12:23 PM PST up reply actions
yeah, but
what kind of prospect could we pry away for Rajai? I mean, could we hope for a C+? I’m not sure that’d be worth it
by cityplANner on Jan 26, 2010 12:26 PM PST up reply actions
Montero!
I mean he is blocked in NY by Teix, right?
"Loyal? I'm the most loyal player money can buy." - Don Sutton
More like by Posada
who I continue to expect will keel over from sheer improbability at some point.
Montero’s not much of a catcher, but I’m not sure how much that matters. If he’s starting 80 games at C and 80 at DH, it won’t kill your defense.
Shawn Spencer: "I’m receiving a transmission from your husband. Really more of a voicemail, if I'm being honest. A status update. Perhaps a twitter."
Burton Guster: "I believe it’s called a tweet."
Shawn Spencer: "There’s no way I’m saying that."
I don't agree with this.
In center field, Rajai is at least 2 wins better on defense, probably more. I don’t see Damon putting up anything close to a .370ish wOBA in Oakland. In fact, I think they’d be luck to get the .304 wOBA they got from him the first time around. I really can’t even fathom how Damon is an upgrade unless you think Rajai is going to bat with a whiffle bat, throw left handed (he’d still have a better arm than Damon), and have his legs chopped off at some point before the beginning of the season.
www.zekeishungry.com
by thejd44 on Jan 26, 2010 1:33 PM PST up reply actions
I can't figure out what, other than homerism, could be motivating those projections
Damon’s defense gets mixed reviews depending on who the evaluator is, so it’s probably about average. Even if Davis is 10 RAA in a corner (probable), it still doesn’t make up for the huge difference in their respective hitting ability. The notion that Damon’s hitting is projected to drop 30 runs in a season is ridonkulous.
I think it’s about a win upgrade even before you account for the increased depth, bench and platoon possibilities that moving Davis to 4th OF provides (or the potential return on trading him).
Shawn Spencer: "I’m receiving a transmission from your husband. Really more of a voicemail, if I'm being honest. A status update. Perhaps a twitter."
Burton Guster: "I believe it’s called a tweet."
Shawn Spencer: "There’s no way I’m saying that."
Isn't Damon like a full win below replacement as a LEFT FIELDER?
How is that average?
I’d put big, huge, massive money on this: Playing in Oakland over 150 games, Davis would be the one worth AT LEAST a win over Damon. And I’m expecting Davis regression. I just think Damon was 100% a product of New Yankee Stadium, and his corner OF defense is damn near Custian at this point.
www.zekeishungry.com
by thejd44 on Jan 26, 2010 8:48 PM PST up reply actions
FanGraphs says he was +3.0 WAR last year.
There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, Than are dreamt of in your philosophy.
If you look at only his 2009 UZR, he's at -8
However, his 2008 UZR and his 2007 UZR were both positive. Making a prediction going forward, I would call his defense average to slightly below.
"Loyal? I'm the most loyal player money can buy." - Don Sutton
OK, I'll be taking you up on that bet if the A's in fact sign Damon...
Shawn Spencer: "I’m receiving a transmission from your husband. Really more of a voicemail, if I'm being honest. A status update. Perhaps a twitter."
Burton Guster: "I believe it’s called a tweet."
Shawn Spencer: "There’s no way I’m saying that."
I'm wondering if Beane has
the framework for a trade already worked out. They sign Damon and Sheets, then send a package including one of Cahill/Mazzaro/Gio, a bullpen arm or outfielder, and maybe a prospect for a young SS? I am just trying to find the logic is signing a guy like Damon, even if Beane doesn’t believe in Rajai…
Yuck times infinity
Look at his home and road splits… the guy had a resurgence because of the new homer heaven in New York.
He better not trade Cahill or Vin Mazzaro
Both are going to be really good + chance are Duke and Sheets are gone by next season or even at the allstar break, so trading them would be stupid
Lance "you sunk my" Blankenship
Well I wouldn't be opposed to dealing one of them
for a young talented SS. I like Cahill, and to a lesser extent Mazzaro quite a bit but Green is likely a couple of years away and I don’t see Pennington being a valuable starter during that time. I could be wrong, but that’s just how I see it. Adding a young, solid SS would make this team look pretty damn good and could slide Pennington into the utility role which is probably where he belongs.
As far as Damon goes
i’m not a fan of signing him. He’s more then likely going to pull a Giambi and regress a shit ton outside of NY. I would be completely ok with not signing him and calling it an offseason while holding onto our young players, but i’m just trying to figure out why we would consider Damon to begin with. Damon/Crisp/Sweeney OF with Davis as the 4th OF or a trade is the only scenario’s I can see. Who knows what Beane has planned.
Could be to set up a Davis/Sweeney platoon situation
Shawn Spencer: "I’m receiving a transmission from your husband. Really more of a voicemail, if I'm being honest. A status update. Perhaps a twitter."
Burton Guster: "I believe it’s called a tweet."
Shawn Spencer: "There’s no way I’m saying that."
Lame
Screw Damon and just let Sweeney and Davis play every day.
The Ultimate Opportunist
by Rated-R Superstar on Jan 26, 2010 10:20 PM PST up reply actions
Sweeney did have knee surgery. It's not a given that either he or Crisp
can play every day. Buck is their backup. His head might still be humming. Our next option is Patterson, and I’m OK with him if there’s no other option, but would rather have him on the bench. That leaves Hairston…er Cunningham…er Taylor. I have no problem with his playing every day once he dominates AAA, but I also don’t mind signing Damon so that they don’t have to play him before that.
But baseball! Fuck yeah! -- lynnzgal
by WaddellCanseco on Jan 27, 2010 12:40 AM PST up reply actions
Curious if...
…the contract prevents us from offering him arbitration, as seems to be all the rage among players signing 1-year deals lately. Although maybe it won’t matter much in terms of compensation, given he has no 2009 stats to count towards his ranking.
What about his girlfriend?
As I recall, she was the hottest wife on the Field (barring Kotsay, of course)
by As Fan in the Bronx on Jan 26, 2010 12:11 PM PST up reply actions
I don't even know what to say to that..
"The A's get some action but they do not score..." -Glen Kuiper
"Anyone who calls themselves the Angels Angels should have to start over and ride the short bus." -timmeh from McCovey Chronicles
At first, it puzzled me...
why Sheets instead of Harden….but after looking at their history, Ben wins easily…
Go A’s!
"Twenty minutes," says Jack Sr. "Thank god for Billy Beane."
"Any fan that wants us to do that is going to be disappointed because that just isn’t us." - Wolff
I'm well aware of that..
but we could of pursued him as well…but with the fragility of harden, i can see why Ben looked more attractive..
"Twenty minutes," says Jack Sr. "Thank god for Billy Beane."
"Any fan that wants us to do that is going to be disappointed because that just isn’t us." - Wolff
by ST on Jan 26, 2010 1:14 PM PST up reply actions
Complete games (career)
Sheets 18, Harden 2. Even when he’s healthy, Rich is a five-inning pitcher. Sheets can actually dominate deep into the game
by John of Gaunt on Jan 26, 2010 11:35 AM PST up reply actions
OH MY GOD!
Harden?!?!?!?!? Are you serious??? The moment he even flies over Oakland something breaks on him! I am going out on a limb here and guessing he makes 10-12 starts for Texas before breaking.
"Tonto think Billy Beane need to make team full of squirrels and bears."
by OptimistPrime on Jan 26, 2010 11:37 AM PST up reply actions
Harden hated playing for the A's
He always thought they were trying to sacrifice his arm for short-term benefits. Which is kind of comical, given how little he pitched, but his press comments always came off as delusional to me to begin with, so really it was just par for the course.
Shawn Spencer: "I’m receiving a transmission from your husband. Really more of a voicemail, if I'm being honest. A status update. Perhaps a twitter."
Burton Guster: "I believe it’s called a tweet."
Shawn Spencer: "There’s no way I’m saying that."
Harden did have a few whimsical statements
when interviewed about leaving Oakland for Chicago. It was interesting to hear his anxiety over leaving the comfort of the only organization he had known. I mostly remember his comments like this one: ""It’s not good. As soon as I started trying to throw changeups and really extend the arm, I could feel it. Hopefully, it doesn’t put me back too far.",
Didn't he buy a suit of armor in Japan?
or was that a sword. ONe he should have bought and worn when he put himself in situations where he needed to, say, turn off an alarm clock, the other he should not get near.
"The ego, the super-ego, and the Ed" - danmerqury
MY ALL TIME FAVOURITE QUOTE
"The last hitter, I gave it everything I had and was really struggling to get it up to the plate.",
I vaguely remember Rich being passive aggressive towards reporters asking about his injury history. I seem to remember he took them as a person affront to his manliness.
Zebulon rocks!
I still wonder where he went today. Did Harden or Zooks win the custody battle?
Bailey is ROY!
I dunno, but he's immortalized in my avatar
..at least until I change it.
m*****f***ing c***s***ing peanut butter and jelly!! f*** f*** f***!!!
Yeah, and really, it only seems like the A's do this with relievers anyway
Work the hell out of a guy for 2-3 years, let his farm fall off, replace him with a younger, cheaper guy who is just as good.
www.zekeishungry.com
by thejd44 on Jan 26, 2010 1:35 PM PST up reply actions
harden has complained about his days in oakland
i’d doubt that he would want to come back
What did i tell you...didn't I say they would win? Yeah that's right I did didn't ? Wait.. what? They LOST?!?!?
Good Day
The A’s signed Ben Sheets and the Raiders hired Hue Jackson. All I need is for the Warriors to beat the Kings and I’ll be even more stoked.
The Ultimate Opportunist
by Rated-R Superstar on Jan 26, 2010 11:36 AM PST reply actions 1 recs
And for Al Davis to run out of worchestershire embalming fluid.
by LoneStranger on Jan 26, 2010 11:54 AM PST up reply actions
Pink Eye..... PINK EYE!
In a perfect world... spammers would get caught, go to jail, and share a cell with many men who have enlarged their penisses, taken Viagra and are looking for a new relationship.
There's plenty of topical ointment for everybody.
They call their best player "Kung Fu Panda" and they complain that people aren’t taking them or the game seriously enough? -Nick
Well that will not happen.
Warriors stink.
Warriors
We’re just a game behind the Kings in the loss column. We’re not all that bad of a team if we can actually, you know, get 10 of our guys on the court instead of having to rely on Devean George and three guys straight out of the D-League. I don’t expect a win tonight with Ellis, Azubuike, Bell, Wright and Randolph out. Still, it should be close since we’re at home.
The Ultimate Opportunist
by Rated-R Superstar on Jan 26, 2010 3:45 PM PST up reply actions
Gold Medalist Ben Sheets
2000 Olympics. Unstoppable.
yes
This makes me happy!
Jack Cust: Nothing but true results….
by Athletics fan and runner on Jan 26, 2010 11:54 AM PST reply actions
Any chance we put in a team option for 2011?
If we don’t trade him at the deadline, it’d be nice to have him around for next year when we’re really in the drivers’ seat.
2011
The team may feel as if Cahill and Mazzaro or one of them will be ready take his spot.
The Ultimate Opportunist
by Rated-R Superstar on Jan 26, 2010 11:57 AM PST up reply actions
A positive outcome
If two of Sheets, Duchscherer, Outman, and Braden can stay healthy for half the season, the rotation should be OK. I am a little concerned with expectations being too high on Devine and the bullpen.
"The ego, the super-ego, and the Ed" - danmerqury
Bullpen
With Wuertz, Z, Devine and “Everyday Bailey” -we should have one of the strongest bp in baseball
Lance "you sunk my" Blankenship
yabut
Wuertz’s year was so far above his career norms, I wonder how much we can rely on those numbers. Bailey was great, but with no track record. Devine? Who knows if he can actually pitch.
I am optimistic, but I can see it all blowing up.
"The ego, the super-ego, and the Ed" - danmerqury
Odds of that happening are quite low
Those guys weren’t flukes— their peripherals completely supported the notion that they were elite relief pitchers.
Some regression to the mean is predictable enough, and surely there will be injuries, but the bullpen is nothing to worry about. The A’s have zillions of solid-to-good options available in the minors on top of all the MLB guys.
Shawn Spencer: "I’m receiving a transmission from your husband. Really more of a voicemail, if I'm being honest. A status update. Perhaps a twitter."
Burton Guster: "I believe it’s called a tweet."
Shawn Spencer: "There’s no way I’m saying that."
Already the odds are against you
Outman will miss at least half the year while he recovers from TJ.
The monster at the end of this blog.
Athletics 'Bation!
There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, Than are dreamt of in your philosophy.
by iglew on Jan 26, 2010 2:08 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
If we got 1 more bat I really think we could be a killer team this year!
Thank you Al Davis for Michael Crabtree!!!!!
re:Damon
He would totally cramp our defense unless he DH’d in which case CUST WOULD TOTALLY CRAMP our defense.
Id much rather have Damon DHing in certain matchups though over Cust. Sweet platoon that would be if Damon is super cheap.
I miss Chad God
I always thought Damon played good D
I think he legs are still ok his arm though lets be honest he throws like a girl
Thank you Al Davis for Michael Crabtree!!!!!
hey, i throw pretty damn well!!
i’m an ex-softball player and have a better arm than damon. even after shoulder surgery. and i’m 20 years older.
my legs are probably better too. :))
Double Fist Pumping in my Office
This is awesome news, there’s really nothing to lose in this deal (particularly since it’s not my 8 million dollars).
If Sheets & Duke can beat the odds and stay ‘mostly’ healthy we have a legit shot at making some noise down the stretch. Either way I’m much more excited by the season starting.
Can’t wait to see Sheets in ’zona wearing the green and gold.
I believe it is a base of 4 or so million and up to 10 with incentives
Thank you Al Davis for Michael Crabtree!!!!!
Bailey/Breslow/Davis is supposed to be on Baseball Tonight
Starting…NOW on ESPN
"I was right and you were wrong." - Ray Fosse
Com'on Rajai
I know you’re not a genius like Breslow, but when one of the hints to the trivia question is “MLB OFers” and you say “Mark Ellis”, I can’t help but shake my head…
LMAO
How the hell did 3 A’s players get into the Baseball Tonight studio? ESPN only invites Yankees and Red Sox players into their studios. They must have cracked the security code or something.
You can change your job, you can change your wife, you can even change your gender, but you can never change your club.
Win or lose, we will always be here for you.
Fear no foe, wherever we go.
by johnjahafanclub on Jan 26, 2010 2:22 PM PST up reply actions
Rajai
Lives in Connecticut. Maybe they are out there to pray and play.
by Colorado Fan on Jan 26, 2010 4:01 PM PST up reply actions
Sheets 18 strikeouts vs the Braves was bananas
If he pitches anything like that next year I’m stoked.
who am I kidding…..If he pitches 20+ games I’m stoked
by Player Haterberg on Jan 26, 2010 12:33 PM PST reply actions
So instead of signing Cust
team X decided to wait until he signed a contract, then sent a valuable asset in exchange for paying the amount he signed for?
"The ego, the super-ego, and the Ed" - danmerqury
computer games are realistic, ok?
I suspect that you think tilting at windmills means something other than what it does.
by bobnothing on Jan 26, 2010 12:48 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
You are pretty fescinated with this trade Cust thing
It’s a bad idea and unliekly.
First, any team that wanted him could have had him for cheap about, oh 3 weeks ago.
Second, Cust is the only guy with legit power on the team. He is a great option at DH.
Asking Rajai about signing Damon = AWKWARD
Rajai: He’s got playoff experience, I can always learn something from a guy like him
"I was right and you were wrong." - Ray Fosse
Is there a link
To it somewhere online? I looked on espn.com but couldn’t find it.
"Their batters are patient to the point that it's annoying." -Ryan Franklin
by Helloooo 1st on Jan 26, 2010 12:55 PM PST up reply actions
Thank
But I meant the Rajai interview.
"Their batters are patient to the point that it's annoying." -Ryan Franklin
by Helloooo 1st on Jan 26, 2010 12:57 PM PST up reply actions
Good starting pitching, great bullpen, deep outfield, good catcher
Our infield (along with a lack of power in the OF) is the only area where I’d rate us as weak. I’m looking forward to good pitching and smallball offense—low scoring games. If we play good fundamental baseball, we have a good shot of getting over .500.
@worldblee on Twitter.
outfield?
I’d say we’re pretty weak in terms of outfielders overall. Sure, the defense is going to great. But the offense? Davis and Crisp, even as centerfielders, are not close to average hitters. And Sweeney is not an average hitting corner outfielder. I understand how both offense and defense fit into value, but I’m not sure we’re average or above at any positions other than C and maybe 2B.
So if we sign Damon.....
LF R. Davis
CF Coco
RP Sweeney
DH Cust
and Damon…..who is the odd man out or do they just go with the hot hand….
But I doubt the A’s sign Damon and platoon the guy…He is a better hitter then the other mentioned, regardless if he is away from NYY stadium…The guy would hit in the middle of our lineup..
Cust would be the logical odd man out in my opinion
Lance "you sunk my" Blankenship
I beleive I heard someone mention something from another source saying it would work if
Damon played LF,
Crisp and Davis platooned CF,
Sweeney played RF.
by LoneStranger on Jan 27, 2010 11:56 AM PST up reply actions
Press conference
Streaming live on CSNBayArea.com
"The whole world is fueled by bullshit… What? The kid asked me for advice on his science fair project so I’m giving it to him." - shitmydadsays
I'm not entirely sure
if Mychael Urban is really tall, or that woman is really short.
"The key to staying on top of things is treat everything like it's your first project,
like it's your first day like back when you (were) an intern." - Notorious BIG
Does he bear a resemblance to McGwire without the facial hair to any of you?
"Do I talk to myself? No, I just remind myself of what I'm trying to do. You know, I never answer myself so how can I be talking to myself?" - Rickey
by cuppingmaster on Jan 26, 2010 12:58 PM PST up reply actions
1 o'clock shadow there
"Do I talk to myself? No, I just remind myself of what I'm trying to do. You know, I never answer myself so how can I be talking to myself?" - Rickey
by cuppingmaster on Jan 26, 2010 12:59 PM PST up reply actions
Gotta show off the bling
"The key to staying on top of things is treat everything like it's your first project,
like it's your first day like back when you (were) an intern." - Notorious BIG
More interesting than Urban just standing there saying nothing?
"The ego, the super-ego, and the Ed" - danmerqury