Desme retiring
by Helloooo 1st on Jan 22, 2010 9:50 AM PST
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PrintIt's been reported by foxsports.com that OF Grant Desme has announced his retirement from baseball in favor of pursuing his priesthood.
I'm incredibly shocked by this news and pretty disappointed too. There have been many debates on AN about whether Desme is for real or not but you can't deny that it's a shame we'll never know for sure because Desme could've been something special.
That being said, I wish him the best of luck and admire his decision because it cannot be easy to give up on your (initial) dream, especially when you're still young and talented. At least he'll be leaving after a healthy and productive season as opposed to his two previous years.
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It sounds like he isn't giving up his dream, but pursuing a dream
I will say nothing more on this, else I’ll end up banned.
www.zekeishungry.com
by thejd44 on Jan 22, 2010 9:52 AM PST reply actions 2 recs
I agree
But I’m sure baseball was a dream too.
"Their batters are patient to the point that it's annoying." -Ryan Franklin
by Helloooo 1st on Jan 22, 2010 9:53 AM PST up reply actions
Same.
I will say nothing more on this, else I’ll end up banned.
They call their best player "Kung Fu Panda" and they complain that people aren’t taking them or the game seriously enough? -Nick
if only there were someplace you could express yourself with (ch)impunity …
A B -3X = Swedish girls like chocolate @('.')@
somewhere, in a magical land that I cannot find
because it’s so low on the search engine lists that I give up trying after the 6th page…
Is expressing oneself with impunity in this magical place something like shouting down a well?
"Sniff some krazy glue, and start a religion!"- The Reverend Billy Lard
by Gaijin_Suketto on Jan 22, 2010 1:17 PM PST up reply actions
Look deep inside yourself, and there you will find the url
With stout hearts, and with enthusiasm for the contest, let us go forward to victory. ----Hero Defector Montgomery
by mikeA on Jan 22, 2010 1:21 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
If you can’t find the URL deep inside yourself (definitely look there first), I suggest using a combination of mini-liquid cannons and complex frameworks. If even that doesn’t work, you’re probably f*cked.
74mk!
Long time no see, Bro!
There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, Than are dreamt of in your philosophy.
You look in the wrong places then.
"There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want" -Bill Watterson
I'm not a rout freak.
There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, Than are dreamt of in your philosophy.
Mmmhmm.
I’ll just say that wow, this is out of the blue.
Always the summers are slipping away.
Find me a way for making it stay.
I saw it on Rotoworld and thought it was a prank. Guess not. Huh.
"The only way I'm going to get a Gold Glove is with a can of spray paint." - Reggie Jackson
by the_rozeboom on Jan 22, 2010 11:12 AM PST up reply actions
Rawr.
They call their best player "Kung Fu Panda" and they complain that people aren’t taking them or the game seriously enough? -Nick
FATHER DESME IS DISPLEASED AT YOUR HORSEPLAY.
by ElQuesoCapitan on Jan 22, 2010 1:21 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
If horseplay is bad, Nico is totally going to hell.
They call their best player "Kung Fu Panda" and they complain that people aren’t taking them or the game seriously enough? -Nick
Horses, goats, whatever.
They call their best player "Kung Fu Panda" and they complain that people aren’t taking them or the game seriously enough? -Nick
DEAD MEME
five yard penalty… repeat third down…
"Sniff some krazy glue, and start a religion!"- The Reverend Billy Lard
by Gaijin_Suketto on Jan 22, 2010 1:29 PM PST up reply actions
You call it what you want.
Nico’s love was pure.
He was just helping it over the fence. Repeatedly.
They call their best player "Kung Fu Panda" and they complain that people aren’t taking them or the game seriously enough? -Nick
This will make a great AN meme.
Should we keep the caps-lock?
There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, Than are dreamt of in your philosophy.
how about just DESME'd
when there is horseplay
"Do I talk to myself? No, I just remind myself of what I'm trying to do. You know, I never answer myself so how can I be talking to myself?" - Rickey
by cuppingmaster on Jan 22, 2010 1:38 PM PST up reply actions
No. It's only good if it's the full phrase, properly worded.
There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, Than are dreamt of in your philosophy.
Not too long ago on one of these threads
we were discussing exactly this possibility. Well, not exactly Desme, and not exactly the priesthood, but the question was something like, “how often does a promising prospect just up and decide to quit baseball for something else?” Some people were suggesting it almost never happens. Well, here’s one example.
There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, Than are dreamt of in your philosophy.
Billy Sunday.
The similarities are rather surprising.
"You may glory in a team triumphant, but you fall in love with a team in defeat."--The Boys of Summer
You guys have this Giants' fan's sympathies
Grant looked like a helluva prospect. Damn!
"The BB's are out. The BB's are being arseholes to me." - Brian Wilson.
apparently
prayers might have made more of a difference.
"Do I talk to myself? No, I just remind myself of what I'm trying to do. You know, I never answer myself so how can I be talking to myself?" - Rickey
by cuppingmaster on Jan 22, 2010 12:44 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Jeremy Brown, anyone?
"I am happy because I do not have unrealistic expectations"- Karma Ura...or an A's fan.
by DyeLongJustice on Jan 22, 2010 5:00 PM PST up reply actions
Jeremy Brown was mentioned in the previous discussion.
I just tracked it down and I was remembering wrong. It was the thread for community prospect #9, and we were rehashing the old now-vs-later debate. Although it began as a discussion of prospects, by the time we honed in on the question of how much to discount future wins due to the uncertainty of someone quitting the game, it was focused on players already arrived in the majors, not minor-leaguers. The conclusion was that once a guy reaches the majors, it’s very unlikely he’ll quit unless it’s because he sucks so bad he can’t get a job.
So not exactly the same for a AA guy with promise, though some similar ideas.
There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, Than are dreamt of in your philosophy.
Talk about passing up a once in a lifetime opportunity
Totally nuts
Is this the real life-
Is this just fantasy-
Caught in a landslide-
No escape from reality-
Or he may see this new path as a better, more important opportunity
I’m hardly going to sit here and say he’s making a mistake.
Last of the Ninth - Photography
That's OK
I’ll say it instead.
He could go off on whatever wacky adventure this is at any age, but he’ll never be 23 again.
MISTAKE.
Is this the real life-
Is this just fantasy-
Caught in a landslide-
No escape from reality-
The good thing about this is I'm sure he doesn't care what you think one bit
Last of the Ninth - Photography
by Flashfire on Jan 22, 2010 10:17 AM PST up reply actions 1 recs
What a shame...
If he were dropping baseball to pursue Scientology, I’m sure more people would see it as waste of great-baseball talent lost to a mind warping cult. Let’s hope he chose one of the “decent” religions.
I think whichever religion or spirtual path he takes is a decent one.
As he is the only person who can determine that.
"Whether you think you can, or you think you can't, either way, YOU'RE RIGHT !"
This is, pretty clearly, bullshit.
If he starts a cult that advocates murdering babies, that’s a decent path? No, we as a society can determine what’s “decent.” We do all the time.
www.zekeishungry.com
by thejd44 on Jan 22, 2010 10:52 AM PST up reply actions 1 recs
You have the right to determine what is decent in your life and he does in his life
I seriously doubt that he will be murdering babies.
"Whether you think you can, or you think you can't, either way, YOU'RE RIGHT !"
Of course that's an extreme, unlikely possibility
But the idea that because somebody decides it’s the right thing we should all just back off and say “Yes, it is because you believe it is” is absurd. My point is that every single day people say what another has chosen is wrong. I don’t see why people can’t do the same thing here.
www.zekeishungry.com
by thejd44 on Jan 22, 2010 11:01 AM PST up reply actions
because zomg religion is taboo and you can't tell anybody they're wrong for thinking something about it?!?!?
sigh.
They call their best player "Kung Fu Panda" and they complain that people aren’t taking them or the game seriously enough? -Nick
I just find all the people being so judgmental about a personal choice of his to be kind of silly
Yeah, he had the potential to be a pretty good baseball player.
Yeah, he made the choice to give up on that possibility to pursue a different career path he clearly feels more strongly about than the sport.
I think the people being critical of him for that are missing the point that he doesn’t owe the team or the fans anything and whether he left to go into construction, medicine, politics, religion or anything else is completely up to him.
In fact, I think for some people this has more to with them disliking religion in general than anything else. I’m not big on religion myself but I say more power to him. Obviously he felt called on to go in a different path with his life, one I’m sure he feels will give him a chance to help people in a different way.
I think he should be commended for it, myself.
Last of the Ninth - Photography
by Flashfire on Jan 22, 2010 11:09 AM PST up reply actions 8 recs
At the risk of making baseball seem more important than it is...
When one man, for whatever reason, has the opportunity to lead an extraordinary life, he has no right to keep it to himself.
-Jacques Yves Cousteau
I dunno
Seems the same could be said for someone going into the priesthood.
But no, I don’t think baseball is as important as some people here are making it out to be.
Last of the Ninth - Photography
and clearly others don't think religion is as important as some people here are making it out to be
Somehow only one of those groups is “OK”
They call their best player "Kung Fu Panda" and they complain that people aren’t taking them or the game seriously enough? -Nick
Not really
The issue I take is with people basically saying Desme is an idiot for doing this.
Last of the Ninth - Photography
Not to put it that blunttly....
But with his talent, what other professions could he have gotten into that wouldn’t have people saying he was an idiot for doing this?
Maybe a firefighter, a doctor, or a soldier….
The point is, in the vase majority of situations and circumstances, he would be considered an idiot for doing this. It’s not a knock against religion per se…
Is someone an idiot for taking less money to do something he likes more?
Are greed and intelligence synonymous now?
"Sniff some krazy glue, and start a religion!"- The Reverend Billy Lard
by Gaijin_Suketto on Jan 22, 2010 1:20 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
I agree that religion is irrelevant
and people would be calling him an idiot no matter what the other career choice is.
And I’d be disagreeing with those people regardless.
It’s his life. He knows better what’s important to him and why than we do.
There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, Than are dreamt of in your philosophy.
Take it from this angle
Say he’s devout in whatever path he’s chosen. If he makes it as baseball player, not only he does he have greater influence and potentially more followers (if that matters and it may not), after he’s done, he can do the same thing while donating a ton of cash towards his chosen path.
CuttheMullet, from "The Thread":
"Whenever I’m about to do something, I think "would an idiot do that?" and if they would, I do not do that thing."
I wouldn't call him an idiot, but...
I tend to believe that if someone is gifted with the talent-level that 99.9% of the world doesn’t have in a certain field, it is AT LEAST questionable to throw that talent down the drain.. Especially when you can be a priest after your playing career.
I would think it would make “God” happier to see Desme use the talents he was given to the best of his ability.
Whatever.
"I did nothing. I did absolutely nothing, and it was everything that I thought it could be." -- Peter Gibbons
by dtownmbrown on Jan 22, 2010 12:07 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
I agree with this
He could’ve tried out a baseball career while he’s still young and still have the option to do priesthood.
I’m shocked by this news really.
Warriors, Stupidest franchise in the league.
I told Randolph that Bill Russell would tell him to keep that ball in play and start the break.
RANDOLPH: "I know. But sometimes, you gotta let ‘em know."
(MT)
He did exactly that. He proved whatever he needed
to prove to himself. He didn’t need to do it any more. I don’t see the problem.
But baseball! Fuck yeah! -- lynnzgal
by WaddellCanseco on Jan 22, 2010 1:10 PM PST up reply actions
Not to mention
If he is seeking to enlighten others on scripture, or bring people to God, or any of that stuff… Why wouldn’t he do that from the baseball diamond?
If he was an All Star, think of all the people he would have the chance to meet and talk to. Even if he was just your average baseball player… think of all the people he could meet.
That is the part I don’t get.
Isn't that just a matter of opinion though?
Maybe he thought that being a priest would allow him to reach folks more effectively.
I think it’s very difficult to speculate on this, because we’re assuming so many things (his goals, his motivation, his belief on the best way to reach his goals, etc.)
This, of course, assumes that he was going to be an All-Star to begin with, which is a hell of an assumption to begin with :-P
by eastbayexpat on Jan 22, 2010 12:38 PM PST up reply actions
Priests don't just enlighten people
they use the charismatic power bestowed upon them by the Church to grant people absolution from sin, marry people, baptize them, etc.
"And Julio Franco is batting right-handed!" -- Wayne Hagin, A's radio play-by-play, mid-80s
You don't have to be a preist to perform a marriage.
They call their best player "Kung Fu Panda" and they complain that people aren’t taking them or the game seriously enough? -Nick
you do have to be a priest
to perform a valid catholic marriage.
The A's. The SWINGING A's. That's right, the SWINGING A's.
by eastcoasta'sfan on Jan 22, 2010 8:50 PM PST up reply actions
what about to perform a
valid drivers license?
Sock puppets have never been able to successfully attack castles. -NM
by Leopold Bloom on Jan 22, 2010 8:56 PM PST up reply actions
that's a voodoo witch ceremony, dear.
Sock puppets have never been able to successfully attack castles. -NM
by Leopold Bloom on Jan 22, 2010 8:59 PM PST up reply actions
Ha ha ha ha!!!!
Who has time to get a valid driver’s license?
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
(gotta sneeze...)
ahhh ahhh Kiffin!
"Sniff some krazy glue, and start a religion!"- The Reverend Billy Lard
by Gaijin_Suketto on Jan 22, 2010 9:31 PM PST up reply actions
Does Larry Baer shit in the woods?
"And Julio Franco is batting right-handed!" -- Wayne Hagin, A's radio play-by-play, mid-80s
And people would question his motive because he "chose money over God".
What are we at the park for except to win? I'd trip my mother. I'd help her up, brusher her off, tell her I'm sorry. But mother don't make it to third. ~Leo Durocher
I love baseball
but it is a game and it is for entertainment.
You have to include smiley faces - Poppy
;- ) :- ) :-O : -> : -] : -}
and what if somebody said the same about religion?
I mean, that’s my point.
It doesn’t really bother me either way that he’s doing it. It’s his decision, his life, etc. However, anybody that’s going to speak against him doing it is going to get crucified (lulz, see what i did there?) because you DO.NOT.TALK.BAD.ABOUT.RELIGION.
They call their best player "Kung Fu Panda" and they complain that people aren’t taking them or the game seriously enough? -Nick
by mikev on Jan 22, 2010 11:41 AM PST up reply actions 2 recs
I wouldn't call religion "entertainment"
but i understand your point.
I think I would have the same reaction if he was quiting to be (as someone else pointed out) a firefighter, or Police Officer, or teacher. All worthy professions that are going to help people more than someone playing baseball. Baseball brings people joy but it isn’t exactly going to make the same impact as those professions.
You have to include smiley faces - Poppy
;- ) :- ) :-O : -> : -] : -}
+1
it would be an all-out flame war if he retired to do some other job, but everybody is supposed to just shut up and pat him on the back because it’s religion and as mikev said,
you DO.NOT.TALK.BAD.ABOUT.RELIGION.
BK: This guy is on fire, he is really smokin'.
KenKo: Oh yeah, Bill? What's he smokin'?
I would say
that a lot of people on this site say DO.NOT.TALK.POSITIVE.ABOUT.RELIGION. because I’m not religious and you are judging me for being so.
It goes both ways IMO. People will slam you for your faith and others will slam you for not having a faith.
You have to include smiley faces - Poppy
;- ) :- ) :-O : -> : -] : -}
Guess which one is "acceptable"
It goes both ways IMO. People will slam you for your faith and others will slam you for not having a faith.
hint: It’s the latter.
They call their best player "Kung Fu Panda" and they complain that people aren’t taking them or the game seriously enough? -Nick
on this site
I think it’s closer to 50/50 to which is acceptable. But in American society you are correct.
You have to include smiley faces - Poppy
;- ) :- ) :-O : -> : -] : -}
I'm still trying to stay out of this debate, but very well said.
Always the summers are slipping away.
Find me a way for making it stay.
Well, yeah
There’s no reason to. It’s inflammatory. It’s attacking some peoples’ most heartfelt, sacred beliefs. And yeah they might not make much sense sometimes but you should still respect how deeply seriously they consider them.
Any point can be made without denigrating religion. Many can be made with denigrating it, too, but I just don’t see what it adds.
we in the losin baseball binness. and cousin, binness is a boomin.
by walk off bunt on Jan 23, 2010 12:40 AM PST up reply actions
Reminds me a story I heard on NPR years ago...
It was regarding a novel that was popular in North Korea about a musician who gave up his dream of becoming a musician, instead choosing the nobler path of a sculptor who made propaganda statues. It was hailed as an inspirational story in North Korea, but was scene as a tragedy here in the U.S.
what about the fact that
now another player now has a better opportunity to make the big leagues, or even the higher minors and to make more money?
You have to include smiley faces - Poppy
;- ) :- ) :-O : -> : -] : -}
Just because Cousteau says it doesn't mean it's true.
I for one would vehemently disagree with that statement.
There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, Than are dreamt of in your philosophy.
Cousteau overvalued the world.
"Sniff some krazy glue, and start a religion!"- The Reverend Billy Lard
by Gaijin_Suketto on Jan 22, 2010 1:32 PM PST up reply actions
You don't think Beane is trying to win in 2010
because the world will probably end in 2012?
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
Well, that would cetainly explain his indifference to the whole Super 2 issue
"And Julio Franco is batting right-handed!" -- Wayne Hagin, A's radio play-by-play, mid-80s
by Nick on Jan 23, 2010 6:04 AM PST up reply actions 1 recs
I take the middle path...
"Sniff some krazy glue, and start a religion!"- The Reverend Billy Lard
by Gaijin_Suketto on Jan 23, 2010 1:04 PM PST up reply actions
Define "extraordinary".
What are we at the park for except to win? I'd trip my mother. I'd help her up, brusher her off, tell her I'm sorry. But mother don't make it to third. ~Leo Durocher
lots of dingers
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There are differing opinions on me. According to Iglew "DFA is PT with a sense of humor. PT is DFA with introspective self-doubt. I like them both" but according to sirbed Im "The Stats Killer"
by designatedforassignment on Jan 22, 2010 1:25 PM PST up reply actions
that would truly be extraordinary
on this team
The A's. The SWINGING A's. That's right, the SWINGING A's.
by eastcoasta'sfan on Jan 22, 2010 8:52 PM PST up reply actions
Agreed.
In fact, I think for some people this has more to with them disliking religion in general than anything else.
Agree with this, also.
I think he should be commended for it, myself.
What are we at the park for except to win? I'd trip my mother. I'd help her up, brusher her off, tell her I'm sorry. But mother don't make it to third. ~Leo Durocher
I dunno if it's disliking religion
but it’s kinda interesting to see the reactions vs. when Pat Tillman left the NFL to join the Marines.
They call their best player "Kung Fu Panda" and they complain that people aren’t taking them or the game seriously enough? -Nick
As I recall...
…there were alot of the same extreme opinions and reactions. I almost brought him up as a comparable example.
Semi-related to the disliking religion (and/or military service) theme, I wonder if some who disapprove aren’t actually being selfish. The whole “they’re throwing their gift and opportunity away” stuff is just a bunch of crap. What they’re really saying is that athletes must perform to entertain us, for our benefit… not do anything they might want to do themselves.
What are we at the park for except to win? I'd trip my mother. I'd help her up, brusher her off, tell her I'm sorry. But mother don't make it to third. ~Leo Durocher
I wouldn't go that far
I think it’s more of people holding a baseball career in high esteem because of the talent it takes to do it, and the vast reward if you do make it to the bigs. I don’t think a hate for religion is what’s motivating the objections.
Well...
…he doesn’t owe the team or the fans anything and whether he left to go into construction, medicine, politics, religion or anything else is completely up to him.
Well, the A’s did pay him a rather nice bonus, and it certainly wasn’t to put up some nice minor league numbers and then choose another career. The A’s are kind of getting screwed here, and Desme is reneging on the agreement implicit in his signing bonus: that he would give it his all to become a major league ballplayer.
That said, I’m taking issue with your overbroad statement here, but I’m not criticizing Desme. Seriously. The guy is obviously not doing this for the money. Or the fame, or the sex, you’d have to think. To quote a personal favorite Nietzschean aphorism, “Whatever is done from love always occurs beyond good and evil.” Desme’s decision obviously involves love of some sort. You have just one life. You have to consider that with the really fundamental choices, you always have the right, even the duty, to make them in accord with your deepest values, even if there is some harm to others (within reason) or if it involves reneging on some commitment (within reason – or maybe not even within reason, if I take my Nietzschean aphorism as seriously as I think Nietzsche did). Some things are too elementally important to be ceded or promised away.
So as a human being, I respect Desme’s decision. But as an A’s fan – and as someone who grew up as a pretty devout Catholic but shucked all that off and wound up as a principled (I hope) atheist – I’m pissed. Why couldn’t it be some other damn team’s damn prospect who heeded The Call from The Almighty and exchanged his bat and glove for whatever spiritual journey he’s embarking on here? Would it have killed him to take the money and the groupies for another 10 years, then renounced it all and joined the priesthood? That path was good enough for Augustine, who pretty much founded Catholicism, but it’s not good enough for Desme? Jesus H. F’ing Christ.
sweet, sweet faustus
They call their best player "Kung Fu Panda" and they complain that people aren’t taking them or the game seriously enough? -Nick
quit stealing my lines, fucker.
Sock puppets have never been able to successfully attack castles. -NM
by Leopold Bloom on Jan 23, 2010 10:26 AM PST up reply actions
Hey LB, want some free motorcycle track time?
just kidding :)
"Sniff some krazy glue, and start a religion!"- The Reverend Billy Lard
by Gaijin_Suketto on Jan 23, 2010 1:05 PM PST up reply actions
But mikev says it with a completely different inflection
really not the same thing at all
exactly.
They call their best player "Kung Fu Panda" and they complain that people aren’t taking them or the game seriously enough? -Nick
k.
{contacts ED to help plot revenge}
Sock puppets have never been able to successfully attack castles. -NM
by Leopold Bloom on Jan 23, 2010 9:28 PM PST up reply actions
Your response doesn't, in any way, touch on Eastbayjim's point
You call it bullshit that a person decides what he or she wants to do because it will make it them happy. A society can decide it is decent if it has a baring on that society. Desme’s decision cannot be regarded as decent or indecent unless it has some effect on society. Murdering babies is indecent no matter what because it effects society. The priesthood in itself is not indecent or decent for society’s standards, only the individual who decides on it.
by asyouwish33 on Jan 22, 2010 11:06 AM PST up reply actions
The priesthood did not used to be indecent for society's standards
but after all the drama and coverups and scandals, I don’t know anymore.
"Sniff some krazy glue, and start a religion!"- The Reverend Billy Lard
by Gaijin_Suketto on Jan 22, 2010 11:21 AM PST up reply actions
The priesthood itself isn't a social issue
The prosecution and disposal of pedofilic priests on the other hand is.
no joke
i finally got around to watching Jonestown: The Life and Death of Peoples Temple last night…..
A's v Giants "is kind of like the difference between going to see the Ramones and going to see the Bee Gees. A's fans will go see the Ramones."
-BB 07/27/05
lol
you’re making a joke, right? if so, this was a funny comment
BK: This guy is on fire, he is really smokin'.
KenKo: Oh yeah, Bill? What's he smokin'?
Are we going to have another Matt Holliday roast, now?
Good for Desme…..now there is a man with conviction in what matters the most to him. I am disappointed as a fan, though. I really was looking forward to seeing him play some pro ball. Best of luck Grant!
Zeigler to Geren…."A-Rod? He’s my bitch." -alox
wut
More power to him to follow dreams and not money. Best of luck.
"I generally avoid temptation unless I can't resist it" ~ Mae West
God hates Oakland.
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by carp on Jan 22, 2010 10:02 AM PST reply actions 1 recs
Just like haiti...
Oakland make a pact with the devil…
by HeavyHitters510 on Jan 22, 2010 10:09 AM PST via mobile up reply actions
Actually I was thinking he could stay in the A's system and be a OL and Priest for the A's
With all the injuries we keep having he could fill two big holes
"Whether you think you can, or you think you can't, either way, YOU'RE RIGHT !"
Makes you wonder...
Is it possible the A’s were more willing to trade Wallace for Taylor because they knew one of their hottest outfield prospects was thinking about retiring? Seems to me that someone thinking about retiring to be a priest would’ve let his employers know.
Pretty obvious that if he succeeded, he could help more people with the millions he’d make than just one-on-one as a priest - but a calling is a calling, no matter what it is. If he couldn’t give his all to baseball, it’s best he do what he feels he should be doing.
by richwol1 on Jan 22, 2010 10:03 AM PST reply actions 1 recs
Or...
…would Beane have traded Cunningham… dealing from a “position” of strength"… if he knew Desme was leaving?
I think he probably still would have, as even without Desme the team is set pretty well with OF prospects. Plus, we REALLY NEEDED a decent 3B who could actually stay healthy.
What are we at the park for except to win? I'd trip my mother. I'd help her up, brusher her off, tell her I'm sorry. But mother don't make it to third. ~Leo Durocher
The system is still full
There’s still Taylor in the outfield mix. And possibly Carter. I found it interesting that the A’s traded Cunningham when you’d think San Diego would have been all over Desme. Now we kno why. Decisions like this are not spur-of-the-moment, and the A’s would have known this was a possibility.
At some point, hopefully Blez will ask Beane about this, and how it played into other team decisions…if the team knew it was in the offing.
Or
if Billy knew he was leaving, then he should have traded Desme instead of Cunningham to the Padres. How fitting and ironic would his retirement be then…
by sf drift king on Jan 22, 2010 1:10 PM PST up reply actions
see the link below for sfgate.com
the front office did not know.
You have to include smiley faces - Poppy
;- ) :- ) :-O : -> : -] : -}
Thank the Lord...
for small favors. I would’ve jumped a cliff if we traded for him and joined the preisthood the next day.
Wow, that’s pretty shocking. I mean, no prospect is a certain thing, but he was looking like a pretty legit power threat in the future. So that’s definately a blow to the system.
Luckily, from an A’s organizational standpoint, we have plenty of OF’s.
Guess I just gotta wish Desme the best of luck!
Sometimes the impossible can become possible if you're AWESOME!
by ZeroIndulgence on Jan 22, 2010 10:05 AM PST reply actions
guy has speed too
Looking at his peripherals, is there anything not to like?
"The BB's are out. The BB's are being arseholes to me." - Brian Wilson.
Age and strikeouts
But baseball! Fuck yeah! -- lynnzgal
by WaddellCanseco on Jan 22, 2010 1:12 PM PST up reply actions
yeah, that has been the thing
his detractors have hit on. on one hand, he missed two years with injury, but on the other hand, that doesn’t make it not count, since as we all know from PT, (paraphrasing) “health is a repeatable skill”.
"If you hit .440 with 20 bombs, you don't have to do s---. You don't have to bring a glove to practice, just hit and leave whenever you want. You can bring a 40 and smoke a cigarette and call me from the parking lot asking me what time the game is, and I'll tell you. You can even say 'F--- you, Steve!' Actually, don't say that, that wouldn't be very nice." -Steve Friend, Head Coach, Chabot College Gladiators Baseball
Me neither.
I wish him success, though. I will always support people seeking their callings/dreams. Well, as long as it’s legal and doesn’t hurt anybody else.
What are we at the park for except to win? I'd trip my mother. I'd help her up, brusher her off, tell her I'm sorry. But mother don't make it to third. ~Leo Durocher
This would be more understandable
If this happened during his 2 years of injuries. Wish him luck, but we’ll never know now. Bye Bye 4 star prospect. Time for Corey Brown to step up
Possibly much of the thinking about it
happened during his two years of injuries
Agreed on Corey Brown.
There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, Than are dreamt of in your philosophy.
Well.
Can’t say I saw that coming. At all.
"You're just jealous. You wish you had a rally animal..." -CardinalWraith
A's v Giants "is kind of like the difference between going to see the Ramones and going to see the Bee Gees. A's fans will go see the Ramones."
-BB 07/27/05
by xbhaskarx on Jan 22, 2010 11:08 AM PST up reply actions 1 recs
>:-(
Dammit. I have Firefox at work now, so I used right-click to block the offending image … but I forgot that it causes the browser to reload the page, and now I lost all my markings of which messages are unread.
There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, Than are dreamt of in your philosophy.
Well lets look at the OF depth now
They had a surplus, probably still do. Though it hurts to lose one of the top 10 prospects and likely oneof the higher upside players.
Gone: Cunningham, Desme, Spencer
Remaining in AA/AAA Taylor, Buck, Sulentic, Peterson, Brown, Doolittle, Carter.
Damned
Between Desme religious fervor and Braden’s nerve damaged foot, someone’s been working overtime on their Oakland A’s voodoo dolls!
The monster at the end of this blog.
Not that it matters now...
But another odd injury involving the A’s was when Danny Putnam, then a Stockton Port, was placed on the disabled list because he choked on a grape.
I am Ray Fosse's infatuations with Clay Wood and high-definition television.
by franks a lot on Jan 22, 2010 10:46 AM PST up reply actions
let's not forget dan johnson was blinded by suntan lotion
A's v Giants "is kind of like the difference between going to see the Ramones and going to see the Bee Gees. A's fans will go see the Ramones."
-BB 07/27/05
I see your Dan Johnson injury and raise you a Tim Hudson bar fight injury
I am Ray Fosse's infatuations with Clay Wood and high-definition television.
by franks a lot on Jan 22, 2010 10:58 AM PST up reply actions
Barton and the shallow end!
"The only way I'm going to get a Gold Glove is with a can of spray paint." - Reggie Jackson
by the_rozeboom on Jan 22, 2010 11:16 AM PST up reply actions
Daric Barton and the Shallow Ends
Let’s start a band.
I am Ray Fosse's infatuations with Clay Wood and high-definition television.
by franks a lot on Jan 22, 2010 11:24 AM PST up reply actions
haha
combined together it’s pretty comical—pretty comical how stupid the A’s players seem to be.
Warriors, Stupidest franchise in the league.
I told Randolph that Bill Russell would tell him to keep that ball in play and start the break.
RANDOLPH: "I know. But sometimes, you gotta let ‘em know."
(MT)
Most
and I’ll stress, MOST professional athletes aren’t the brightest minds in the world.
There are plenty of exceptions to the rule, but…
They call their best player "Kung Fu Panda" and they complain that people aren’t taking them or the game seriously enough? -Nick
A girl I knew in high school
became a professional athlete in a semi-obscure sport and married another in the same sport, and their social circle became professional athletes in somewhat less obscure sports.
She told me that it was her observation that among professional athletes some are very smart, many are very stupid, and there isn’t much in between.
That sounds consistent with what I’ve heard anecdotally about MLB baseball players.
There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, Than are dreamt of in your philosophy.
Seems about right.
I mean, you’ve got the guys like Brian Bannister and (the other) Chris Carter, guys like Ziggy and Breslow, etc…
Then there are guys like Jason Kendall and Brian Giles who go on sports talk radio and talk about taking showers together.
They call their best player "Kung Fu Panda" and they complain that people aren’t taking them or the game seriously enough? -Nick
The two types
1. Makes it because of talent and skill = Dummy
2. “Winners” who made it with talent and hard work = Smarties
Hey what about our BA in Molecular Biology lefty??!!
Awaiting the start of the 2010 season!
by One won lost won on Jan 22, 2010 11:57 PM PST up reply actions
QOTM whole line
"Bobby Crosby at third is a bit of an adventure. And not like, here’s some hidden treasure, what fun. More like, gah! poison ants!" --alea iacta est
by baseballgirl on Jan 22, 2010 1:26 PM PST up reply actions
There's a shitload of them here.
Which makes me wonder if this thread was invented for that purpose.
Of course I am still trying to figure out how much a shitload is.
I'm here to talk about the past.
by 67MARQUEZ on Jan 22, 2010 2:06 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
approximately 6
They call their best player "Kung Fu Panda" and they complain that people aren’t taking them or the game seriously enough? -Nick
Less than a fuckload, but more than a buttload
I suspect that you think tilting at windmills means something other than what it does.
I think someone needs to make us a chart for this.
A nice little graphic illustrating the relative sizes of fuckload, shitload, and buttload. Surely that would go platinum in no time.
There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, Than are dreamt of in your philosophy.
Pie doesn't really work for this.
I was thinking bar.
There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, Than are dreamt of in your philosophy.
I'm still confused.
Wouldn’t a shitload necessarily be less than a buttload? Unless buttload doesn’t include colonload and largeintestineload.
I’m gonna stop now.
Always the summers are slipping away.
Find me a way for making it stay.
Well, my original ordering was based on the level of perceived offensiveness of the terms
that is Fuck>Shit>Butt
I suspect that you think tilting at windmills means something other than what it does.
A buttload only consists of the butt.
So indeed, shit comes in a larger volume than butt
by ElQuesoCapitan on Jan 22, 2010 3:28 PM PST up reply actions
I was going to adjust my halo
but I can only imagine those responses! (on a couple of levels)
I'm here to talk about the past.
it's nice you capitalized it.
Sock puppets have never been able to successfully attack castles. -NM
by Leopold Bloom on Jan 22, 2010 6:29 PM PST up reply actions
you do?
Sock puppets have never been able to successfully attack castles. -NM
by Leopold Bloom on Jan 22, 2010 7:06 PM PST up reply actions
OMG
You have no idea!
The Ultimate Opportunist
by Rated-R Superstar on Jan 22, 2010 10:26 PM PST up reply actions
Question
What kind of porn was it?
The Ultimate Opportunist
by Rated-R Superstar on Jan 22, 2010 11:06 PM PST up reply actions
New Thread
Don’t get left behind, so join us!
The Ultimate Opportunist
by Rated-R Superstar on Jan 22, 2010 11:10 PM PST up reply actions
Wow
Wow.
Wow.
Wow.
Wow.
The Ultimate Opportunist
by Rated-R Superstar on Jan 22, 2010 11:04 PM PST up reply actions
Ah, this is useful.
It’s helpful for better writing. If you’re discussing a whole lot of something that you’d want, call it a buttload; if it’s a whole lot of something that you wouldn’t want, call it a shitload.
Am I presuming too much here? Nobody likes shit, but everybody likes butt, right?
There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, Than are dreamt of in your philosophy.
Natural logs, or would you prefer something in a base ten?
I suspect that you think tilting at windmills means something other than what it does.
dont remind me of the Hudson bar figth, damn it.
we wouldve been in the ALCS
I blame Rev Halofan
Hey Al, just go away, baby.
by doctorK on Jan 22, 2010 11:07 AM PST up reply actions 2 recs
I think it's strange to imply Desme wasn't good
Seriously, his stats are VERY compelling and I heard somewhere that he was AFL MVP.
"The BB's are out. The BB's are being arseholes to me." - Brian Wilson.
age, k rate
two big minuses
"If you hit .440 with 20 bombs, you don't have to do s---. You don't have to bring a glove to practice, just hit and leave whenever you want. You can bring a 40 and smoke a cigarette and call me from the parking lot asking me what time the game is, and I'll tell you. You can even say 'F--- you, Steve!' Actually, don't say that, that wouldn't be very nice." -Steve Friend, Head Coach, Chabot College Gladiators Baseball
Wow
As a fan, this news absolutely sucks. Desme was, at the very least, one of the most interesting prospects the A’s had. I was very much looking forward to him at AA and eventually the majors.
I’m surprised he played in the AFL. If he was thinking of retiring, you’d think he wouldn’t opt to play so late in the year. He’ll retire with so many questions about his game that I, and many others, were anxious to see him answer.
I won’t plan to understand or judge his decision, but best of luck to him and if he decides to try his hand at baseball again in the future, I hope there will be mutual interest between the A’s and him.
"Loyal? I'm the most loyal player money can buy." - Don Sutton
If he does change his mind and come back a few years later
do the A’s still own the rights to him, or do those dissolve once he’s no longer under contract?
That is, would he be an old prospect still controlled by the A’s, or would he be a free agent, or would he get freshly drafted again?
There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, Than are dreamt of in your philosophy.
Surely the A's would still own the rights
Otherwise every Scott Boras client would “retire” the instant they signed with a team.
Shawn Spencer: "I’m receiving a transmission from your husband. Really more of a voicemail, if I'm being honest. A status update. Perhaps a twitter."
Burton Guster: "I believe it’s called a tweet."
Shawn Spencer: "There’s no way I’m saying that."
what the fuck...
this is a joke, right?
A's v Giants "is kind of like the difference between going to see the Ramones and going to see the Bee Gees. A's fans will go see the Ramones."
-BB 07/27/05
I was gonna say
I didn’t know foxsports started taking its cues from The Onion.
……like, really?
we in the losin baseball binness. and cousin, binness is a boomin.
by walk off bunt on Jan 22, 2010 10:32 AM PST up reply actions
Good lord!
I mean, Bad lord!
No, wait!
The meaning of life is not so much 'found,' as it is 'made.' --Opus
by The Dogfather on Jan 22, 2010 10:32 AM PST reply actions 1 recs
Totally unexpected.
Both the retiring and the priesthood.
also
by ElQuesoCapitan on Jan 22, 2010 10:36 AM PST reply actions
definitely
100% Athletics, 100% Baseball. 2009 Athletics, 40% Baseball.
by fruitattack on Jan 22, 2010 11:35 AM PST up reply actions
This news wouldve been better
If Desme had been traded to Padres
by MagicMike23 on Jan 22, 2010 10:41 AM PST reply actions 2 recs
Dammit!
I was literally just writing that. But I second this joke
I suspect that you think tilting at windmills means something other than what it does.
Ideal career path for Father Desme
Break into the majors with the Padres.
Get traded to the Cardinals for his peak seasons.
End his career as an Angel.
Hey Al, just go away, baby.
by doctorK on Jan 22, 2010 11:06 AM PST up reply actions 16 recs
LOL!
"Do I talk to myself? No, I just remind myself of what I'm trying to do. You know, I never answer myself so how can I be talking to myself?" - Rickey
by cuppingmaster on Jan 22, 2010 11:18 AM PST up reply actions
(secretly wears New Jersey Devils jersey and cries)
"Sniff some krazy glue, and start a religion!"- The Reverend Billy Lard
by Gaijin_Suketto on Jan 22, 2010 11:23 AM PST up reply actions
YEEAAAH DEVILLSSS!
What you fail to understand in your joyless myopia is that baseball is the key to life-- the Rosetta Stone, if you will. If you just understood baseball better all your other questions your, your... the, uh... the aliens, the conspiracies they would all, in their way be answered by the baseball gods.
by winchester5 on Jan 22, 2010 11:28 AM PST up reply actions
QOTM
"Bobby Crosby at third is a bit of an adventure. And not like, here’s some hidden treasure, what fun. More like, gah! poison ants!" --alea iacta est
by baseballgirl on Jan 22, 2010 12:20 PM PST up reply actions
Well we can all breathe a little easier
since he wasn’t going to be an All-Star with the A’s anyways..
"I did nothing. I did absolutely nothing, and it was everything that I thought it could be." -- Peter Gibbons
by dtownmbrown on Jan 22, 2010 12:25 PM PST up reply actions
Well its a good thing he isnt wasting his GOD-GIVEN TALENT
oops.
by PL78 on Jan 22, 2010 10:42 AM PST reply actions 1 recs
He is a man of constant sorrow?
But baseball! Fuck yeah! -- lynnzgal
by WaddellCanseco on Jan 22, 2010 1:14 PM PST up reply actions
Damn, we're in a tight spot!
Always the summers are slipping away.
Find me a way for making it stay.
Them sirens did this to Grant
They loved him up and turned him into a horny toad.
by EddieVegas_NRAF on Jan 22, 2010 4:41 PM PST up reply actions
Grant Desme
up and R-U-N-N-O-F-T
Ooo! Piece of candy!
by ChickenStanley on Jan 22, 2010 5:33 PM PST up reply actions
very very well played
"Since other people actually read these threads, though, probably best that your particular brand of wrongness not go completely unchallenged." - PT
There are differing opinions on me. According to Iglew "DFA is PT with a sense of humor. PT is DFA with introspective self-doubt. I like them both" but according to sirbed Im "The Stats Killer"
by designatedforassignment on Jan 22, 2010 8:51 PM PST up reply actions
The A's had a player named Catholic Grant
He used to sing Gregorian chants
We thought he was the toolsiest guy around
But after the AFL season
The Lord gave Grant a reason
To his cap for a collar and a gown
He’s in the Lord’s house now
He’s in the Lord’s house now
I warned him once or twice
About reading psalms and eschewing vice
He’s in the Lord’s house now
Ave Mariaaaaaa
Ave Mariaaaaaa
Ave Maria, Ave Maria, Ave Maria!
"And Julio Franco is batting right-handed!" -- Wayne Hagin, A's radio play-by-play, mid-80s
Ladies and gentlemen, Johnny Cashmashine!
"Sniff some krazy glue, and start a religion!"- The Reverend Billy Lard
by Gaijin_Suketto on Jan 23, 2010 1:09 PM PST up reply actions
very nice
Sock puppets have never been able to successfully attack castles. -NM
by Leopold Bloom on Jan 23, 2010 1:46 PM PST up reply actions
Oops, I forgot to type a word
Last line of the first stanza should read,
“To trade his cap for a collar and a gown.”
Mea culpa, mea culpa, mea maxima culpa.
"And Julio Franco is batting right-handed!" -- Wayne Hagin, A's radio play-by-play, mid-80s
is there an age cutoff for priest school? (no pedo jokes pls)
could he not do this in two years if it became obvious that he would never have a major league career?
A's v Giants "is kind of like the difference between going to see the Ramones and going to see the Bee Gees. A's fans will go see the Ramones."
-BB 07/27/05
This is what I was thinking
Then I thought: I do not want the A’s to invest any more time into a guy who would even consider this sort of decision.
www.zekeishungry.com
by thejd44 on Jan 22, 2010 10:54 AM PST up reply actions
No, I know someone who entered it in their 40's.
Bring back Hammer.
by OaktownPower on Jan 22, 2010 11:07 AM PST up reply actions
Yea, I'm pretty sure all religions are hurting for figureheads. They'll take you if you have a pulse.
by LoneStranger on Jan 22, 2010 11:09 AM PST up reply actions
Wait I thought that was Oakland's strategy
"I did nothing. I did absolutely nothing, and it was everything that I thought it could be." -- Peter Gibbons
by dtownmbrown on Jan 22, 2010 12:26 PM PST up reply actions
to be more accurate
if you’re male and have a pulse
The A's. The SWINGING A's. That's right, the SWINGING A's.
by eastcoasta'sfan on Jan 22, 2010 8:59 PM PST up reply actions
{pulse optional}
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
With that thought though, you are assuming that baseball is more important to him than the priesthood is.
Just because the fans want him to play baseball, doesn’t mean that’s what will make him happiest.
There's no crying in baseball!
That's irrelevant.
What matters is what makes ME happiest.
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
A's OF prospects in recent yrs
Robnett
Hererra
Putnam
Buck
Desme
Mitchell
Let’s hope Taylor breaks this cycle.
One thing is not like the others
Taylor is a product of another system. So he has that working for him…
I am Ray Fosse's infatuations with Clay Wood and high-definition television.
by franks a lot on Jan 22, 2010 10:55 AM PST up reply actions
Moneyball has failed
The A’s should have realized that atheists are the new undervalued commodity.
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
by Nico on Jan 22, 2010 10:57 AM PST reply actions 7 recs
I don't believe in Desme's STRICKOUTS
I am Ray Fosse's infatuations with Clay Wood and high-definition television.
by franks a lot on Jan 22, 2010 10:59 AM PST up reply actions
This whole thread is pretty hilarious
"Bobby Crosby at third is a bit of an adventure. And not like, here’s some hidden treasure, what fun. More like, gah! poison ants!" --alea iacta est
by baseballgirl on Jan 22, 2010 3:57 PM PST up reply actions
I meant the one-liners sprinkled in here and there.
"Bobby Crosby at third is a bit of an adventure. And not like, here’s some hidden treasure, what fun. More like, gah! poison ants!" --alea iacta est
by baseballgirl on Jan 22, 2010 8:49 PM PST up reply actions
A second thought
If he had done this a year ago, nobody here would be terribly upset. He was still only going to be in AA, and while his upside was great, he wasn’t that close to the majors and he was not a sure thing.
Also, I kinda wish Bobby Crosby would’ve had this calling a long time ago.
www.zekeishungry.com
by thejd44 on Jan 22, 2010 11:03 AM PST reply actions
Crosby is very altruistic
At least, when it comes to putting the needs of opposing pitchers above his own
I suspect that you think tilting at windmills means something other than what it does.
lol... +1
I’m sure the Pirates are hoping the same thing.
by sf drift king on Jan 22, 2010 1:01 PM PST up reply actions
desme had 42 HR and 42 SB last year (including the AFL)
maybe by becoming a priest he will remove the curse of jose canseco…
A's v Giants "is kind of like the difference between going to see the Ramones and going to see the Bee Gees. A's fans will go see the Ramones."
-BB 07/27/05
I can't get over this:
THAT IS SOME SERIOUS UPSIDE!
"The BB's are out. The BB's are being arseholes to me." - Brian Wilson.
I'm upset
that this wasn’t, say a Shane Peterson or Matt Sulentic, or someone else who’s somewhat insignificant.
At the same time, I’m glad that this wasn’t Carter, Taylor, Green, Cardenas, or Weeks.
Who says sulentic or peterson are insginificant?
They are both younger than desme and have played in AA already.
Peterson ranked in the A’s top 15 by BP. Hisskillset would be even better if he can stay in CF defensively.
14. Shane Peterson, OF: He has a line-drive bat and plus speed that both impress, but it’s slightly incongruous with a corner outfield profile.
Sulentic remains to be seen where he fits in, but after a terrible 2007 season he’s rebounded well
by MagicMike23 on Jan 22, 2010 11:31 AM PST up reply actions
I said "somewhat insignificant"
the point being, compared to Desme. I would rather one of these guys have retired than him. That was the point.
Desme wouldve been exposed in AA
Return the $432,000 signing bonus or donate it to a worthy cause.Of course the A"s wouldnt demand that.
yeah I wonder....
If he had to return X amount of that nice bonus would he bein g doing this right now?
by Colorado Booze Hounds on Jan 22, 2010 11:15 AM PST up reply actions
Priests take a vow of poverty, so yes...
Unless he’s a priest in some greedy religion
But baseball! Fuck yeah! -- lynnzgal
by WaddellCanseco on Jan 22, 2010 1:16 PM PST up reply actions
They have some pretty badass blinged out churches for being poor people.
They call their best player "Kung Fu Panda" and they complain that people aren’t taking them or the game seriously enough? -Nick
The vow of poverty has been a pretty widely acknowledged joke in Christianity for at least the last 1600 years
Shawn Spencer: "I’m receiving a transmission from your husband. Really more of a voicemail, if I'm being honest. A status update. Perhaps a twitter."
Burton Guster: "I believe it’s called a tweet."
Shawn Spencer: "There’s no way I’m saying that."
by PaulThomas on Jan 22, 2010 1:37 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
"pretty widely acknowledged"
= pretty meaningless.
Or at least about as meaningful as “at least one person agrees”
by Chilango on Jan 22, 2010 1:38 PM PST up reply actions
Martin Luther agrees
I suspect that you think tilting at windmills means something other than what it does.
I met a traveling monk once.
He wore robes and shaved a tonsure into his dome and even carried a begging bowl.
I let him come crash at my (at the time) punk party house, and my roommate was all “What the f**k are you bringing a f***ing priest here for?” I threw a bottle and said “He’s not a priest, he’s a f***ing monk, so shut the f**k up. I hope you get f***ing scabies and die!”
It turned out he wasn’t really cut out to be a monk… he was just gay and afraid to admit it, and had a little breakdown…
"Sniff some krazy glue, and start a religion!"- The Reverend Billy Lard
by Gaijin_Suketto on Jan 22, 2010 1:45 PM PST up reply actions
There's a difference, though
between an individual’s vow of poverty, and the riches amassed by an organized religion
I suspect that you think tilting at windmills means something other than what it does.
You like The Monks, too?
They’re one of my favorite bands of all time!
“Complication” may be the best song of the 60’s…
"Sniff some krazy glue, and start a religion!"- The Reverend Billy Lard
by Gaijin_Suketto on Jan 24, 2010 9:39 AM PST up reply actions
How can anyone not like the Monks?
Have you read the book? (I assume you have)
"The ego, the super-ego, and the Ed" - danmerqury
actually, I haven't yet.
I found out about them in (I think) “Unknown Legends Of Rock’N’Roll” by Richie Unterberger, or maybe it was one of Irwin Chusid’s writings….
"Sniff some krazy glue, and start a religion!"- The Reverend Billy Lard
by Gaijin_Suketto on Jan 24, 2010 12:50 PM PST up reply actions
That's unfair
Sure, there are a lot of frauds, and the catholic church has its share, but the catholic priesthood and monastic orders are no path to riches, or even comfort.
The A's. The SWINGING A's. That's right, the SWINGING A's.
by eastcoasta'sfan on Jan 22, 2010 9:03 PM PST up reply actions
+1
I feel this is stolen money. Doesn’t God frown upon basically embezzling $432,000 from one’s employer?
Jeremy was safe. He jumped over the tag.
well
we don’t know what he is going to do with the money.
Plus, it’s not like he didn’t play the last few years so it’s not like he took the money and then never did anything for them.
You have to include smiley faces - Poppy
;- ) :- ) :-O : -> : -] : -}
Either the contract required him to keep playing
for X amount of time, or it didn’t. If nothing in his contract says he can’t retire, then it’s his money. If the contract does address it, then he refunds whatever the contract says he does, or they work out an agreement. There’s no issue of embezzlement or even embezzlement-in-spirit here.
There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, Than are dreamt of in your philosophy.
by iglew on Jan 22, 2010 1:42 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Or it's considered an act of God
And thus the contract in unenforceable.
In all seriousness, I don’t think embezzlement is what others saying. Just that there is something a little… ethically mixed about a player keeping what is basically an investment in him after that is no longer the case.
"Do I talk to myself? No, I just remind myself of what I'm trying to do. You know, I never answer myself so how can I be talking to myself?" - Rickey
by cuppingmaster on Jan 22, 2010 1:53 PM PST up reply actions
It just makes me mad.
Of course it’s not embezzlement. But when NFL players retire, their teams try to recover the signing bonuses too. Obviously if you retire due to injury or something out of your control, its not.
What if he played for 1 week after signing a $3M top-10 bonus, and just said screw this, I’d rather play football and declare himself eligible for the NFL draft and announce his retirement from baseball.
Obviously the contract will have something in place for situations like this, but if it doesn’t while it’s not ACTUALLY embezzlement, it is wrong to take the money and run. (i.e. if I were an employer and saw it on a resume or job history, I wouldn’t hire that person. I guess God will)
Jeremy was safe. He jumped over the tag.
Wow
I have mixed feelings about this. On the one hand I don’t want to think following God’s instructions is wrong (obviously debatable to some if it is actually God) but I also am really disappointed that we won’t be able to see if he was going to make it in the big leagues.
My uncle has a similar story, except it was high school football and he quit right before his senior year. It was a small town in Oregon but he was already on the senior squad way before being a senior. One time a rival team did something to a cheerleader (can’t remember if they beat her up or pranked her) prior to a game so the coach put him on the JV team to wreck havoc on the players and he totally trashed them. Anyways, in 1971 he felt God wanted him to give up football so he did and boy was his Dad mad at him. Most of the town thought he was crazy and his Dad basically disowned him for a few years. Luckily they patched things up later in life. He didn’t even do it to go into the ministry but he ended up becoming the assistant pastor of our church many years later.
You have to include smiley faces - Poppy
;- ) :- ) :-O : -> : -] : -}
Hmmm
Desme retires because of a higher calling. I have a cousin who is a priest teaching English in Japan, so I can relate and fully respect the decision.
OTOH, Angel Villalona paid off the family of the guy he allegedly murdered in the Dominican and he it’s possible his prosecution goes nowhere.
One thing’s for certain. If there is a God he sure doesn’t keep score.
Desme probably has a higher likelihood of returning than Villalona
/wonders at the amazing vastness of space between those two reasons for leaving the game.
"The BB's are out. The BB's are being arseholes to me." - Brian Wilson.
His prosecution may go nowhere but he'll have a helluva time getting a US visa
But baseball! Fuck yeah! -- lynnzgal
by WaddellCanseco on Jan 22, 2010 1:17 PM PST up reply actions
You have to wonder the thought process here
He didn’t just wake up this morning and say “I’m going to join the priesthood” so how long has he been mulling this over? If I was religious even in the slightest, I would gulp down a big lump before I came to this decision and certainly not after months of agonizing internal debate. I am hoping this isn’t news to the A’s, but kind of crap thing to do if isn’t.
Nevertheless, hope he follows his higher calling to the fullest… whatever that may be
"Do I talk to myself? No, I just remind myself of what I'm trying to do. You know, I never answer myself so how can I be talking to myself?" - Rickey
How does this work?
Do the A’s maintain his rights at all? If he decides the “crusade” is over is he then a Free Agent?
by Colorado Booze Hounds on Jan 22, 2010 11:25 AM PST reply actions
I'm not sure, but I assume if he decides to return,
he’ll face the same contract situation that he left baseball with.
Always the summers are slipping away.
Find me a way for making it stay.
I'm more bullish on that now than I was
There is hope for you him yet
"Do I talk to myself? No, I just remind myself of what I'm trying to do. You know, I never answer myself so how can I be talking to myself?" - Rickey
by cuppingmaster on Jan 22, 2010 11:30 AM PST up reply actions
woohoo! candy bars for everyone!
care for a kitkat?
by OakA'sHoney on Jan 22, 2010 12:04 PM PST up reply actions
Sure
Right after I attempt to butterfly this (unfortunately) overdone chicken I have for lunch. No fun.
"Do I talk to myself? No, I just remind myself of what I'm trying to do. You know, I never answer myself so how can I be talking to myself?" - Rickey
by cuppingmaster on Jan 22, 2010 12:10 PM PST up reply actions
You naughty minx, you.
Are you offering Mounds, too?
There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, Than are dreamt of in your philosophy.
better than her offering Almond Joy
"Do I talk to myself? No, I just remind myself of what I'm trying to do. You know, I never answer myself so how can I be talking to myself?" - Rickey
by cuppingmaster on Jan 22, 2010 1:57 PM PST up reply actions
I am marveling at how many candy bar names are dirty.
Or wait, maybe that’s just my mind.
There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, Than are dreamt of in your philosophy.
Just don't let anyone slip you their Mr. Goodbar.
Always the summers are slipping away.
Find me a way for making it stay.
Hey, Baby, wanna Skor?
There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, Than are dreamt of in your philosophy.
Candy bar flirting.
It’s like texting, except less obvious.
by ElQuesoCapitan on Jan 22, 2010 3:28 PM PST up reply actions
Kudos to you, sir
"Loyal? I'm the most loyal player money can buy." - Don Sutton
Only a Nerd would think something that clever up
Shawn Spencer: "I’m receiving a transmission from your husband. Really more of a voicemail, if I'm being honest. A status update. Perhaps a twitter."
Burton Guster: "I believe it’s called a tweet."
Shawn Spencer: "There’s no way I’m saying that."
Surely we can Take5 minutes from this discussion
"Do I talk to myself? No, I just remind myself of what I'm trying to do. You know, I never answer myself so how can I be talking to myself?" - Rickey
by cuppingmaster on Jan 22, 2010 6:42 PM PST up reply actions
Twix
We can chew it over, you know?
The Ultimate Opportunist
by Rated-R Superstar on Jan 22, 2010 7:04 PM PST up reply actions
I want a motherfucking candy bar.
I don’t give a shit what kind.
Sock puppets have never been able to successfully attack castles. -NM
by Leopold Bloom on Jan 22, 2010 7:07 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Flagged
We already used that one.
The Ultimate Opportunist
by Rated-R Superstar on Jan 22, 2010 7:16 PM PST up reply actions
Of all the things in the Milky Way to repeat,
67 picked Snickers.
I swear, you 3 Musketeers crack me the f**k up.
"Sniff some krazy glue, and start a religion!"- The Reverend Billy Lard
by Gaijin_Suketto on Jan 22, 2010 9:35 PM PST up reply actions
I love Spree, but they're so hard to find nowadays.
The only ones I ever see anymore are the chewy ones and I don’t like them.
by LoneStranger on Jan 22, 2010 9:24 PM PST up reply actions
If he just quit because he didn't want to play baseball anymore
would we still have the same reaction?
Probably, in fact the negative reactions would probably be even worse since we all would have thought he was insane instead only some of us thinking he is insane. But it is insteresting to think about how much religion is playing into peoples opinion.
You have to include smiley faces - Poppy
;- ) :- ) :-O : -> : -] : -}
Follow-up question:
If there are any of you out there who have worked as priests, do you know if it would be possible to play minor league baseball while, at the same time, studying/training to become a priest? Or does pursuit of one path preclude pursuit of the other?
Just wondering, since it seems to me like it may be possible to do both and, if so, perhaps the decision is not so much reflective of Desme’s “calling” as much as it is his true desire to do anything besides continue playing baseball…
Unless he could keep it to the months of October-February, probably not.
I’d think it’s more about how much time a minor league baseball player spends playing baseball and sitting in buses than it is about time spent studying for the priesthood. It’s not like an online MBA program, although I suppose this would do if he wanted instant gratification.
At any rate, most religious organizations want a full commitment out of their prospective clergy, and if the term “priest” is any indication, he’ll be giving up a lot more than baseball for Jesus, he’ll be giving up minor league townie girls as well.
+1 to this
At any rate, most religious organizations want a full commitment out of their prospective clergy, and if the term "priest" is any indication, he’ll be giving up a lot more than baseball for Jesus, he’ll be giving up minor league townie girls as well.
You have to include smiley faces - Poppy
;- ) :- ) :-O : -> : -] : -}
I would have the same reaction.
That’s pretty much how I interpret this already.
There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, Than are dreamt of in your philosophy.
If he was this good and quit just because, yes people would be just as shocked
It’s one thing to quit because you’re hurt or aren’t very good. It’s another to quit after a very good season, no matter what the reason.
Enjoy the last Desme highlight
If Desme were a "she"
This could be a fitting tune for Billy.
“If I ever find Jesus, I’m kicking his ass.”
"I did nothing. I did absolutely nothing, and it was everything that I thought it could be." -- Peter Gibbons
despite being a little blaphemous
that was quite funny.
You have to include smiley faces - Poppy
;- ) :- ) :-O : -> : -] : -}
If Desme were a "she"
Desme would be barred from the Priesthood, since they don’t allow women priests.
by sf drift king on Jan 22, 2010 12:53 PM PST up reply actions
If Desme were a she
This discussion wouldn’t be happening because Grantelle Desme wouldn’t be playing minor league baseball.
by ElQuesoCapitan on Jan 22, 2010 12:55 PM PST up reply actions
Or if "she" were playing minor league baseball,
We’d already have a series of Disney movies about it.
So I actually googled that name to see if it was a real girl's name....
by eastbayexpat on Jan 22, 2010 12:57 PM PST up reply actions
It isn't.
No one would actually name their daughter Miley.
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
They don't?
It’s only the Catholics that don’t allow women to be Priests, no?
I suspect that you think tilting at windmills means something other than what it does.
depends on the church
Most do allow women priests now.
There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, Than are dreamt of in your philosophy.
I am most displeased.
"Carter's 25-game hitting streak isn't any normal streak. He's 46 for 97 (.474 average) during the run, adding 16 walks and compiling 81 total bases in the process. I'm out of superlatives for what he's doing." - Kevin Goldstein
Sad, sort of
Really, on two fronts. First that he is giving up a promising career at such a young age and second…
Without really getting into the relative virtues of being a clergy member in the first place… Why wouldn’t you play baseball for more than money? Why wouldn’t he have a chance to “bring folks to Jesus” from the baseball diamond? I wonder if he even considered the fact that he could impact so many lives by being a star baseball player.
It kind of reminds me of the lead singer from The Fray. I read once that he is an ordained minister and used to write strictly religious music until he realized that he could impact more lives by writing more mainstream music with the same message.
I agree...
but I think there’s always a community backlash from celebrity pulpiteers (no, not a real word) that could make him think twice about going that road. Of course, that’s my reaction as I always view people who use their fame as an evangelism tool obnoxious and insincere vs. the blue-collar of the roman collar.
You don’t see the lead singer of The Fray doing hospital visits to the elderly without cameras around.
How do you know?
You don’t see the lead singer of The Fray doing hospital visits to the elderly without cameras around.
How do you know that he doesn’t do hospital visits without cameras around? Or are you not implying that?
Well, what he said was "you don't see"
that happening. And indeed you don’t.
There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, Than are dreamt of in your philosophy.
How do you feel about Kurt Warner?
Are you ok with the fact that he uses his position as a high-profile athlete to proselytize? Because Kurt catches alot of crap for doing so.
What are we at the park for except to win? I'd trip my mother. I'd help her up, brusher her off, tell her I'm sorry. But mother don't make it to third. ~Leo Durocher
so does tim tebow
"If you hit .440 with 20 bombs, you don't have to do s---. You don't have to bring a glove to practice, just hit and leave whenever you want. You can bring a 40 and smoke a cigarette and call me from the parking lot asking me what time the game is, and I'll tell you. You can even say 'F--- you, Steve!' Actually, don't say that, that wouldn't be very nice." -Steve Friend, Head Coach, Chabot College Gladiators Baseball
Tebow
His girlfriend is on American Idol.
The Ultimate Opportunist
by Rated-R Superstar on Jan 23, 2010 1:32 PM PST up reply actions
fun fact
"If you hit .440 with 20 bombs, you don't have to do s---. You don't have to bring a glove to practice, just hit and leave whenever you want. You can bring a 40 and smoke a cigarette and call me from the parking lot asking me what time the game is, and I'll tell you. You can even say 'F--- you, Steve!' Actually, don't say that, that wouldn't be very nice." -Steve Friend, Head Coach, Chabot College Gladiators Baseball
First reaction: He's an idiot.
Second reaction: I suppose if he has his heart set on being an idiot, there’s nothing anyone can do to stop it.
Third reaction: Sure would be nice to get that blown pick back though.
Fourth reaction: The Christian God certainly is flexing his muscles to smite us heathen liberals lately, isn’t he.
Fifth reaction: Fuck my life.
Shawn Spencer: "I’m receiving a transmission from your husband. Really more of a voicemail, if I'm being honest. A status update. Perhaps a twitter."
Burton Guster: "I believe it’s called a tweet."
Shawn Spencer: "There’s no way I’m saying that."
by PaulThomas on Jan 22, 2010 11:59 AM PST reply actions 10 recs
good point about the draft pick
I was thinking he was giving another minor leaguer a better chance to make it now with him out of the way but it would have be better for the A’s if he made this decision before being drafted.
You have to include smiley faces - Poppy
;- ) :- ) :-O : -> : -] : -}
or maybe after making the big leagues for a few seasons
I mean, from a practical standpoint wouldn’t it be easier to quit everything and go be a priest when you have a million bucks in the bank?
They call their best player "Kung Fu Panda" and they complain that people aren’t taking them or the game seriously enough? -Nick
Following one's dreams
Whatever they are, tend not to involve terribly practical decisions.
by eastbayexpat on Jan 22, 2010 12:13 PM PST up reply actions
I think it would be harder for him to quit if he reached the majors and was doing well
and wouldn’t people be even madder if he proved he could do well in the bigs and then quit in his prime?
You have to include smiley faces - Poppy
;- ) :- ) :-O : -> : -] : -}
Desme
Billy should have had him read Godless by Dan Barker before he made this decision.
Keith Law Tweet:
Desme retiring spares me the grief I was going to get for omitting him from my top 100 next week…
God KL is a douchebag.
"Carter's 25-game hitting streak isn't any normal streak. He's 46 for 97 (.474 average) during the run, adding 16 walks and compiling 81 total bases in the process. I'm out of superlatives for what he's doing." - Kevin Goldstein
by Syphon on Jan 22, 2010 12:05 PM PST reply actions 1 recs
shorter Keith Law:
It’s all about me!
There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, Than are dreamt of in your philosophy.
Not too bright, batman...
Putting aside the rare, god given talent he’s been blessed in his prime years is a curious choice. If the average person has like seven careers in their lifetime then I would think there’s plenty of time for his divine pursuits after baseball.
Isn't priest work god given talent?
But baseball! Fuck yeah! -- lynnzgal
by WaddellCanseco on Jan 22, 2010 1:19 PM PST up reply actions
Not if you have to go through training.
They call their best player "Kung Fu Panda" and they complain that people aren’t taking them or the game seriously enough? -Nick
I never said it was.
They call their best player "Kung Fu Panda" and they complain that people aren’t taking them or the game seriously enough? -Nick
fwiw
some people clearly have more “talent” than others. generally whoever works harder to hone/perfect those skills do better.
"If you hit .440 with 20 bombs, you don't have to do s---. You don't have to bring a glove to practice, just hit and leave whenever you want. You can bring a 40 and smoke a cigarette and call me from the parking lot asking me what time the game is, and I'll tell you. You can even say 'F--- you, Steve!' Actually, don't say that, that wouldn't be very nice." -Steve Friend, Head Coach, Chabot College Gladiators Baseball
How many of us here would
give anything they had to have his talent? This reminds me of an outfielder with the Tigers named Rob Richie who also retired because of religious reasons.
In every case, these players who are so few in number, regret their decision later in life. You have the talent & you run with it as long as you can. Just think of the “good” this player could do if he was so inclined. I know there’s a “God Squad” of BB players who try to preach wherever & whenever they can. As a BB player they have a bigger pulpit then they could ever gain in regular life. He has his entire life to look forward to, & could enter the seminary / priesthood after his career is ended due to reasons other than this. I still wish him the best.
Paddle Faster! I hear banjo music.
Well in that respect at least, I'm glad he's quitting
Of course, there’s probably just another one where he came from. Except that other one won’t be having 20/20 seasons for my baseball team of choice.
Shawn Spencer: "I’m receiving a transmission from your husband. Really more of a voicemail, if I'm being honest. A status update. Perhaps a twitter."
Burton Guster: "I believe it’s called a tweet."
Shawn Spencer: "There’s no way I’m saying that."
Are you saying you don't want "God Squadders" on the A's?
"Sniff some krazy glue, and start a religion!"- The Reverend Billy Lard
by Gaijin_Suketto on Jan 22, 2010 1:13 PM PST up reply actions
Yes
not to put too fine a point on it.
Shawn Spencer: "I’m receiving a transmission from your husband. Really more of a voicemail, if I'm being honest. A status update. Perhaps a twitter."
Burton Guster: "I believe it’s called a tweet."
Shawn Spencer: "There’s no way I’m saying that."
So you wouldn't want players on the team because of their beliefs PT?
you aren’t the kind of liberal I am.
I think he's saying he doesn't want players on the team
who use the MLB as a pulpit to promote their religious beliefs.
Not the same as not wanting anyone with those beliefs on the team at all.
There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, Than are dreamt of in your philosophy.
Perhaps he should clarify just to be sure
Nobody who pushes their beliefs, or nobody who’s religious at all?
Last of the Ninth - Photography
The former, obviously...
I couldn’t care less what someone does on their off days as long as it doesn’t injure anyone. If they want to spend it chanting about bananas and standing on their head*, more power to them.
Not real keen on being told that my failure to stand on my head makes me a horrible person who’s doomed forever, though.
*Intentionally ridiculous example
Shawn Spencer: "I’m receiving a transmission from your husband. Really more of a voicemail, if I'm being honest. A status update. Perhaps a twitter."
Burton Guster: "I believe it’s called a tweet."
Shawn Spencer: "There’s no way I’m saying that."
What I do in my spare time isn't ridiculous.
The bananas can hear you. STFU.
They call their best player "Kung Fu Panda" and they complain that people aren’t taking them or the game seriously enough? -Nick
Just wanted to be absolutely certain
Presumably you’d say the same about someone who wanted to push an anti-religion belief around the clubhouse.
I say this as someone who grew up with an aunt who was very adamant about “If you don’t accept Jesus blah blah blah you’ll burn in hell,” so I do not enjoy being preached at either. But I also don’t like people trying to force any belief on me.
Last of the Ninth - Photography
Sure
I mean, as long as you aren’t classifying, you know, giving someone a copy of National Geographic or something as “pushing anti-religious belief.”
Shawn Spencer: "I’m receiving a transmission from your husband. Really more of a voicemail, if I'm being honest. A status update. Perhaps a twitter."
Burton Guster: "I believe it’s called a tweet."
Shawn Spencer: "There’s no way I’m saying that."
So much for all that liberal "tolerance" I've heard so much talk about.
What are we at the park for except to win? I'd trip my mother. I'd help her up, brusher her off, tell her I'm sorry. But mother don't make it to third. ~Leo Durocher
Let's ban him!
"Tarry not on the subject, danmerqury, for the heathen will surely be cleansed by the hellefire cast downe upon him by Bill James Moste High, praise his name."
by LongLiveLangerhans on Jan 22, 2010 2:20 PM PST up reply actions
Nah lets ban that jerk sirbed for jumping the gun
by sirbed on Jan 22, 2010 3:11 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Are we making the bansies list?
I wanna ban
OhToBe64LikeKenHoltzman
and
Baseline_Replacement_Commenter
"Sniff some krazy glue, and start a religion!"- The Reverend Billy Lard
by Gaijin_Suketto on Jan 22, 2010 9:37 PM PST up reply actions
Well first, I've never really heard anyone accuse PT of being tolerant
But second, it’s one thing to be religious. It’s another to be obnoxiously religious. The best religious people I know are the ones who I don’t know are religious – if that makes any sense.
My friend back in high school was a practicing Mormon, and he told me that the reason they go door to door is because they believe they’re trying to save people from going to hell. Which is noble and all, but it’s not a very good way to make friends either.
Good point.
They should rethink that elder policy. Instead of sending out pairs of geeky 20-year-old guys, they could send out pairs of hot 20-year-old girls. And instead of wearing coat and tie even on a blistering hot summer day, they could wear T-shirts and hot pants even if it’s raining.
There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, Than are dreamt of in your philosophy.
I'd at least give them a listen then :)
Even if I knew they were wearing special underwear and unlikely to put out until marriage…
Anyone seen Orgazmo? Jesus and I love you.
Not that I'm gay or anything
but Trey was totally hot in that movie.
There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, Than are dreamt of in your philosophy.
orgazmo
phenomenal movie.
"If you hit .440 with 20 bombs, you don't have to do s---. You don't have to bring a glove to practice, just hit and leave whenever you want. You can bring a 40 and smoke a cigarette and call me from the parking lot asking me what time the game is, and I'll tell you. You can even say 'F--- you, Steve!' Actually, don't say that, that wouldn't be very nice." -Steve Friend, Head Coach, Chabot College Gladiators Baseball
My favorite part
Was replacing Ron Jeremy’s head with a pot and then smashing it.
"Their batters are patient to the point that it's annoying." -Ryan Franklin
by Helloooo 1st on Jan 23, 2010 10:16 PM PST up reply actions
I was in LA a couple of years back
and the Scientologists recruiting on the street were doing just this
I suspect that you think tilting at windmills means something other than what it does.
See, now that's making friends!
There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, Than are dreamt of in your philosophy.
If they're hot 20-year-old girls wearing t-shirts and hot pants in the rain
Well then maybe I will.
Although I do prefer girls who are at least 21. Younger than that can be so very awkward. Kinda a moot point with Mormons though I suppose. And nothing wrong with having a designated driver :D.
That's funny that you distinguish between 20 and 21.
From my perspective anyone from about 16 to 28 is pretty much the same.
There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, Than are dreamt of in your philosophy.
And that's why you're posting from prison
m*****f***ing c***s***ing peanut butter and jelly!! f*** f*** f***!!!
by JediLeroy on Jan 22, 2010 7:27 PM PST up reply actions 4 recs
QOTM
"Sniff some krazy glue, and start a religion!"- The Reverend Billy Lard
by Gaijin_Suketto on Jan 22, 2010 9:39 PM PST up reply actions
HUGE FUCKING DIFFERENCE
especially since i fall in the middle of that age range.
"Since other people actually read these threads, though, probably best that your particular brand of wrongness not go completely unchallenged." - PT
There are differing opinions on me. According to Iglew "DFA is PT with a sense of humor. PT is DFA with introspective self-doubt. I like them both" but according to sirbed Im "The Stats Killer"
by designatedforassignment on Jan 22, 2010 8:57 PM PST up reply actions
The second capitalized word being the key one.
I won’t be doing that with any of them. To me they’re all “under age”.
There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, Than are dreamt of in your philosophy.
agrd.
Sock puppets have never been able to successfully attack castles. -NM
by Leopold Bloom on Jan 22, 2010 9:04 PM PST up reply actions
You're younger than me.
You could go as low as maybe 27, if it’s just a fling.
There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, Than are dreamt of in your philosophy.
wait
that means that I can only date people less than 32? That sucks.
"Since other people actually read these threads, though, probably best that your particular brand of wrongness not go completely unchallenged." - PT
There are differing opinions on me. According to Iglew "DFA is PT with a sense of humor. PT is DFA with introspective self-doubt. I like them both" but according to sirbed Im "The Stats Killer"
by designatedforassignment on Jan 23, 2010 12:01 PM PST up reply actions
YOUR DOIN IT RONG
your age (say, 28) → 21 is the lower end.
"There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want" -Bill Watterson
I think he's doing it right and
applying the equation from her side. If she’s more than 32 then he’s below her lower end.
(Um, maybe I should rephrase that….)
There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, Than are dreamt of in your philosophy.
I find that reasonable, assuming he's 23
"There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want" -Bill Watterson
It's YOUR guidelines for lower.
Doesn’t mean you can’t shoot for however high you want. :)
by LoneStranger on Jan 23, 2010 1:45 PM PST up reply actions
For instance, Helen Mirren
"And Julio Franco is batting right-handed!" -- Wayne Hagin, A's radio play-by-play, mid-80s
Really I only have eyes for Lauren Bacall.
"Since other people actually read these threads, though, probably best that your particular brand of wrongness not go completely unchallenged." - PT
There are differing opinions on me. According to Iglew "DFA is PT with a sense of humor. PT is DFA with introspective self-doubt. I like them both" but according to sirbed Im "The Stats Killer"
by designatedforassignment on Jan 24, 2010 2:55 AM PST up reply actions
yeah but if everyone follows that those girls won't date me.
"Since other people actually read these threads, though, probably best that your particular brand of wrongness not go completely unchallenged." - PT
There are differing opinions on me. According to Iglew "DFA is PT with a sense of humor. PT is DFA with introspective self-doubt. I like them both" but according to sirbed Im "The Stats Killer"
by designatedforassignment on Jan 24, 2010 2:55 AM PST up reply actions
See, not everyone does.
i.e. Cougars. You could be someone’s little cub.
by LoneStranger on Jan 24, 2010 9:03 PM PST up reply actions
Aww...Like a wittle Carlos Zambrano!
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
That actually sounds about right.
I’d rather make decisions by intuitive sense of what’s right and not a prescriptive formula. But if you start with that sense and model it from there, that does seem like a pretty good fit.
It also implies that anyone under 15 shouldn’t be having sex at all, which also seems reasonable.
There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, Than are dreamt of in your philosophy.
I may...make an exception, for some.
Sock puppets have never been able to successfully attack castles. -NM
by Leopold Bloom on Jan 22, 2010 9:20 PM PST up reply actions
You sound JUST like one of my wives.
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
I'm confused...
did she like to facilitate and watch,
or were you just an Arrow shirt fetishist?
"Sniff some krazy glue, and start a religion!"- The Reverend Billy Lard
by Gaijin_Suketto on Jan 23, 2010 1:18 PM PST up reply actions
Tolerance is an odd and, IMO, self-contradictory concept
It doesn’t square with my notions of free expression. The freedom to support necessarily carries with it the freedom to oppose. I oppose aggressive religious evangelism.
This is really quite standard-issue interest-group politics (not even close to revolutionary or “illiberal”). Nothing to see here. Move along.
Shawn Spencer: "I’m receiving a transmission from your husband. Really more of a voicemail, if I'm being honest. A status update. Perhaps a twitter."
Burton Guster: "I believe it’s called a tweet."
Shawn Spencer: "There’s no way I’m saying that."
I take note that you clarified what you meant in another portion of this thread.
For far too many on either extreme side of an issue it really means others changing views to match theirs, and nothing else will do… nothing really “tolerant” about it.
What are we at the park for except to win? I'd trip my mother. I'd help her up, brusher her off, tell her I'm sorry. But mother don't make it to third. ~Leo Durocher
Tolerance is overrated.
Should we tolerate racism? How about sexism? How about homophobia? How about religious persecution?
Now if everyone would just hurry up and get on the bandwagon and agree that my position on all of those issues is right we could move forward. Not that thats likely, but I don’t see where tolerance is particularly useful in those cases. I think its far more important to work within an accepted political framework to build support for your positions.
"Since other people actually read these threads, though, probably best that your particular brand of wrongness not go completely unchallenged." - PT
There are differing opinions on me. According to Iglew "DFA is PT with a sense of humor. PT is DFA with introspective self-doubt. I like them both" but according to sirbed Im "The Stats Killer"
by designatedforassignment on Jan 22, 2010 9:01 PM PST up reply actions
I agree
I tolerate milk, if barely. I’d hope we could aim a little higher with regard to race, gender, and sexual orientation.
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
Dairy is where its at.
"Since other people actually read these threads, though, probably best that your particular brand of wrongness not go completely unchallenged." - PT
There are differing opinions on me. According to Iglew "DFA is PT with a sense of humor. PT is DFA with introspective self-doubt. I like them both" but according to sirbed Im "The Stats Killer"
by designatedforassignment on Jan 22, 2010 9:48 PM PST up reply actions
I'm a bit lactose intolerant
Basically, I like the stuff but I don’t really think 1/2 & 1/2 should be allowed to marry lowfat.
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
Yeah both are abominations. Use Cream and Whole milk the way god intended.
"Since other people actually read these threads, though, probably best that your particular brand of wrongness not go completely unchallenged." - PT
There are differing opinions on me. According to Iglew "DFA is PT with a sense of humor. PT is DFA with introspective self-doubt. I like them both" but according to sirbed Im "The Stats Killer"
by designatedforassignment on Jan 22, 2010 9:59 PM PST up reply actions
I myself prefer to use whole, unpasteurized when I seethe a kid in its mother's milk
"And Julio Franco is batting right-handed!" -- Wayne Hagin, A's radio play-by-play, mid-80s
It does seem strange...
…he could reach more people and have more doors open if he was famous first…but oh well…
"Bobby Crosby at third is a bit of an adventure. And not like, here’s some hidden treasure, what fun. More like, gah! poison ants!" --alea iacta est
by baseballgirl on Jan 22, 2010 1:30 PM PST up reply actions
From my understanding
Christianity, as a religion (and the priesthood) promotes humility, and the subjugation of the ego (and desire for personal advancement) to the greater needs of the communion of people. Hence, ‘fame’ would be an anathema to that.
I’ll grant that there are many, many exceptions to this
I suspect that you think tilting at windmills means something other than what it does.
Every case? Are you sure about that?
What are we at the park for except to win? I'd trip my mother. I'd help her up, brusher her off, tell her I'm sorry. But mother don't make it to third. ~Leo Durocher
What I find fascinating
Is that there was not nearly as much frustration on this site when Jeremy Brown retired for family issues, compared to the outrage over Grant Desme’s retirement for more or less personal reasons.
http://www.athleticsnation.com/2008/2/15/251827/jeremy-brown-announces-his
Not really. Jeremy made the majors and was a good hitter for a couple of years
Desme might never have made it out of AA for all we know.
But baseball! Fuck yeah! -- lynnzgal
by WaddellCanseco on Jan 22, 2010 1:20 PM PST up reply actions
I meant a couple of years including AAA and the majors of course.
But baseball! Fuck yeah! -- lynnzgal
by WaddellCanseco on Jan 22, 2010 1:21 PM PST up reply actions
well
Brown wasn’t exactly a potentional 20/20 guy.
“What could Brown do for you?” Jeremy should get a job with the UPS.
You have to include smiley faces - Poppy
;- ) :- ) :-O : -> : -] : -}
I was never one to view Desme all that well (if only becauseI saw his plate discipline as a mirage)
But it would seem that most of the reasons for anger over his leaving are selfish ones, as opposed to the “wasting his God-given talent” arguments I saw above.
Which I can suppose I understand, I sure as hell had them. But it’s hard for me to be angry at someone who decided baseball isn’t for them.
by eastbayexpat on Jan 22, 2010 12:33 PM PST up reply actions
I'd guess that most people aren't so much angry at him
As disappointed for their team. I sure as hell (heh) don’t care what he does with his life – he’s a big boy and those kind of decisions are his to make. I do care about the Oakland Athletics and this move is without question bad for the A’s. The Brown retirement, not nearly as bad.
So ya, I’m going to be angry that he’s screwing up my team. But I’m not personally mad at him, I just find the entire situation frustrating as a fan.
Yeah I dunno
Enough folks are getting personal about it, accusing him of embezzlement, stupidity, and all that.
Angry at the situation? Sure.
Angry at Desme? Not at all.
by eastbayexpat on Jan 22, 2010 12:47 PM PST up reply actions
Well think of it like getting dumped
The other person could have the best reasons in the world. You could even agree with those reasons. But that doesn’t mean they’re not still responsible for your anguish. Sometimes that’s just the way it goes, and different people definitely react differently.
Bottom line here is that Desme is hurting the A’s chances going forward. He’s entirely responsible for that. Is he doing so maliciously? Doesn’t seem like it. Doesn’t change that it’s his fault.
So I suppose that makes us the psycho-ex :-P
by eastbayexpat on Jan 22, 2010 1:14 PM PST up reply actions
i'd say OAH
but she has her hands full (so to speak) with travis
Family reasons are more nebulous
for all we know, his mom was diagnosed with cancer or something and she needed a caretaker. Not something you could really take time to think through.
OTOH, joining the priesthood was a decision he didn’t come to without deliberation. He’s thought about this for several months now. I am hoping the A’s already knew, otherwise it’s a shit thing to do.
"Do I talk to myself? No, I just remind myself of what I'm trying to do. You know, I never answer myself so how can I be talking to myself?" - Rickey
by cuppingmaster on Jan 22, 2010 12:48 PM PST up reply actions
Desme had an invitation to spring training didn't he?
Sounds like the A’s either didn’t plan ahead or didn’t know at all.
by ElQuesoCapitan on Jan 22, 2010 12:50 PM PST up reply actions
I believe so
Although I don’t know when those things are doled out
"Do I talk to myself? No, I just remind myself of what I'm trying to do. You know, I never answer myself so how can I be talking to myself?" - Rickey
by cuppingmaster on Jan 22, 2010 12:51 PM PST up reply actions
I guess for my part
I view both as about equivalent as long as they were reasonably well communicated, as in “There is the distinct possibility that this is going to happen. I am very interested in the priesthood/my mom is sick, I could need to take care of her.”
by eastbayexpat on Jan 22, 2010 1:00 PM PST up reply actions
Slusser's Drumbeat suggests that this wasn't the case
Keith Lieppman, the A’s farm director, told me the news was a surprise to him; when assistant GM David Forst called him with the news, he told him to make sure he was sitting down.
I don't know how to read into it
On the one hand, yeah it suggests exactly that.
But it also suggests that Billy Beane never saw this as a makeup threat during drafting, which makes me wonder how thorough a job they did in researching this possibility.
The other interpretation would be that Beane knew this could be a possibility but never communicated down the organization.
I don;t know which to believe.
by eastbayexpat on Jan 22, 2010 1:20 PM PST up reply actions
there are plenty of religious fervents who never become priests
so I don’t see how anyone would have been able to predict this
"Do I talk to myself? No, I just remind myself of what I'm trying to do. You know, I never answer myself so how can I be talking to myself?" - Rickey
by cuppingmaster on Jan 22, 2010 1:22 PM PST up reply actions
I imagine when they look at prospects
It’s not so much “He’s religious” or “He’s not”.
I suspect it’s “The guy got into law school, how much risk is there that he’ll become a lawyer instead.” Or “He’s expressed interest in being a priest.”
by eastbayexpat on Jan 22, 2010 1:25 PM PST up reply actions
I guess
But both can be done later. Several professional athletes have gone on to law degrees or other advanced study after their playing days were over.
"Do I talk to myself? No, I just remind myself of what I'm trying to do. You know, I never answer myself so how can I be talking to myself?" - Rickey
by cuppingmaster on Jan 22, 2010 1:28 PM PST up reply actions
Sure
But if baseball isn’t what he wants to be doing now, why keep on doing it?
by eastbayexpat on Jan 22, 2010 1:54 PM PST up reply actions
I am sure he likes baseball
Just in this case, he can have his cake and eat it too
"Do I talk to myself? No, I just remind myself of what I'm trying to do. You know, I never answer myself so how can I be talking to myself?" - Rickey
by cuppingmaster on Jan 22, 2010 1:59 PM PST up reply actions
I can't resist an opportunity to mention.
Last summer I discovered that the Italian equivalent of the “have your cake and eat it too” idiom is something like “have a full keg and a drunk girlfriend too”.
Italians are awesome.
There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, Than are dreamt of in your philosophy.
On ne peut pas avoir le beurre et l'argent du beurre.
The french, they like their butter
I suspect that you think tilting at windmills means something other than what it does.
et aussi, J'aime l'expression
“Paris ne s’est pas fait en un jour”
not Rome, or anything
I suspect that you think tilting at windmills means something other than what it does.
money butter?
Sock puppets have never been able to successfully attack castles. -NM
by Leopold Bloom on Jan 22, 2010 9:05 PM PST up reply actions
butter money
what you buy butter with
There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, Than are dreamt of in your philosophy.
who puts butter on their money?
Sock puppets have never been able to successfully attack castles. -NM
by Leopold Bloom on Jan 22, 2010 9:20 PM PST up reply actions
I prefer to to pay with
“I Can’t Believe It’s Not Money.”
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
by Nico on Jan 22, 2010 9:22 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Don't you get it? They're French.
Try replacing “butter” with “bacon”. Now do you understand?
There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, Than are dreamt of in your philosophy.
Do you see?1
DO YOU SEE?!
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by Leopold Bloom on Jan 22, 2010 9:25 PM PST up reply actions
I think we kinda have to give Beane et al a pass
Really, this is just unprecedented. (OK, nerdfolk, maybe you can find me a precedent. Nevertheless, it’s goddamn rare.) This is being hit by a meteorite. This is being, forgive the expression, an Act of God. Nobody does this, so there’s no way to “research” the possibility of their doing it. Sometimes, shit happens.
I've suggested a couple of soccer ones at the bottom
one involves penis waving! (not on my part)
I suspect that you think tilting at windmills means something other than what it does.
To be fair
Do we know that Desme was particularly religious back then? Perhaps his religious beliefs developed more recently.
That letter to the college editor says otherwise.
It’s linked somewhere around this thread.
Always the summers are slipping away.
Find me a way for making it stay.
OH
totally beat you to posting that link. ;-)
(if the posted time under mine is to believed)
You have to include smiley faces - Poppy
;- ) :- ) :-O : -> : -] : -}
'Cause everyone has a family
Not everyone has a god.
Plus, Desme was still in the shiny, sexy stage of his prospecthood. Brown was looking like a back-up C at best.
The monster at the end of this blog.
The real bummer is the timing of his retirement
His ceiling just got a lot higher so it’ll be a tough loss.
"I did nothing. I did absolutely nothing, and it was everything that I thought it could be." -- Peter Gibbons
I wish the A's had traded him a week ago
Talk about “selling high.”
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
It kind of makes you wonder
If that really had happened, could San Diego get the trade revoked? Or do teams just sort of assume the risk that any given player will abruptly quit to enter the clergy?
Shawn Spencer: "I’m receiving a transmission from your husband. Really more of a voicemail, if I'm being honest. A status update. Perhaps a twitter."
Burton Guster: "I believe it’s called a tweet."
Shawn Spencer: "There’s no way I’m saying that."
You'd think that at that stage, Desme would have probably spoken up
Whilst this decision may have come recently, I’m sure it didn’t happen overnight
I suspect that you think tilting at windmills means something other than what it does.
I'd think they assume the risk, just like with the draft --
unless, of course, it’s established that you knew. But that’s just like an injury.
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
maybe it's part of the physical vetting process
“Grant, complete this phrase for us, if you will: God has called me to be___
a) His shepherd
b) An all star outfielder
c) A bit like Bobby Crosby
d) A sunbeam"
I suspect that you think tilting at windmills means something other than what it does.
Sunbeams are not made like Desme.
Always the summers are slipping away.
Find me a way for making it stay.
It's a generic questionnaire
plus, I love this song
I suspect that you think tilting at windmills means something other than what it does.
thank you for picking the Vaselines' version, not Nirvana's
"Sniff some krazy glue, and start a religion!"- The Reverend Billy Lard
by Gaijin_Suketto on Jan 24, 2010 9:43 AM PST up reply actions
I had this student who was planning on becoming a priest while in college...
… and a colleague of mine once referred to him as “Ol’ Johnny What-a-Waste”. He was referring, in this case, to “Johnny’s” (name changed to protect the guilty) total hotness and the fact that he had women slavering in his footsteps all the time. To no apparent effect. Desme’s decision reminds me of this.
Interestingly, when I saw “Johnny” a few years later, he had given up on the priesthood, and had a super-hot aerobics instructor with (read: hanging on) him. I hope that we don’t see Desme go the same route, and turn out a Yank or something after un-retiring.
I would be mad if he changed his mind again
and returned to another team and did well.
You have to include smiley faces - Poppy
;- ) :- ) :-O : -> : -] : -}
So the Yankees are aerobics instructors?
But baseball! Fuck yeah! -- lynnzgal
by WaddellCanseco on Jan 22, 2010 1:22 PM PST up reply actions
Maybe he can pray that we score a ton of runs this season?
by ATLDuck on Jan 22, 2010 12:36 PM PST reply actions 2 recs
"Pray for the A's now and at the hour of their victory."
by ElQuesoCapitan on Jan 22, 2010 12:38 PM PST up reply actions
maybe, when the time comes to demolish it
he’ll walk around the coliseum seven times, and then the walls will collapse.
It’d save on all them expensive explosives, that’s for sure
I suspect that you think tilting at windmills means something other than what it does.
Ugh, feels like a gut punch
Regardless of my personal feelings I’m not going to blame another person for choosing to do what they think will make them happy. So I wish Desme the best and maybe he can put in a word for the A’s with the big guy and do something about all these injury issues.
Oh yea and… KHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAANNNNN!!!!! (he’s god now right?)
I for one am stunned and deeply disappointed
to hear this. I stopped going to Mass when I was in the 6th grade because I didn’t believe in the outrageous things they were teaching, especially those that didn’t make any damn sense. It began when I asked a nun a simple question: What happens to babies that die at birth who didn’t have the chance to be baptized? She had the nerve to tell me they all went to Limbo. (*NOTE: the Church has since abolished this belief) Well of course, I thought this was unfair and questioned her even more about how it isn’t right for them not to ever get the chance to join their relatives in Heaven.. so you can imagine how this all went down.
I just want to thank my dad (and football), who backed me in my decision to not return to Sunday School and Mass. Plus, this was also during the time when so many kids were being raped by Priest. Molestation my ass, it’s rape. Thanks to my stage freight, I never became an alter boy. I just wish more people would question the nonsense these religious organizations preach. Stop being sheep and start thinking on your own. And don’t be afraid to question authority.
As for Desme, I guess his decision to leave baseball wouldn’t be as hard to take if he were leaving for another reason, but the Priesthood?? no,no,no… I can’t say good luck on this one. Sorry bro. Hope you snap out of it soon.
How is this relevant to the conversation aside from just being a rant about religion?
by eastbayexpat on Jan 22, 2010 12:51 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
As for Desme
I think that’s relevant, because it has the word Desme in it.
by ElQuesoCapitan on Jan 22, 2010 12:53 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
I'm guessing it was a backstory to why he's not going to give Desme his best wishes
Though I’ll agree it probably went overboard for a baseball website.
you folks should see all the things I typed and didn't post
"Sniff some krazy glue, and start a religion!"- The Reverend Billy Lard
by Gaijin_Suketto on Jan 22, 2010 1:37 PM PST up reply actions
hm, likewise
I suspect that you think tilting at windmills means something other than what it does.
Yes, indeed.
As much as I use it, I can’t think of a single time I hit cancel and regretted it, though there are a few where I didn’t and wish I did.
There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, Than are dreamt of in your philosophy.
Some posters do inspire it more than others, that's for sure.
There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, Than are dreamt of in your philosophy.
This comes off as more of an anti-religion rant than anything to do with Desme
As such, flagged. We can have conversations on the news without going to this.
Last of the Ninth - Photography
Again, objection
Stop being an ass, FF. Desme’s decision is what brings religion into this. And “anti-religious rant”? This is someone responding sincerely from his own intimate, personal experiences. If his experiences were more positive, you wouldn’t be flagging. Sf drift king didn’t introduce religiosity to this thread; Desme did that. A believer could post honestly here, but someone whose personal experience and belief is less positive can’t post without being flagged by you?? Bullfuckingshit. I see someone making a very personal post about some very intimate issues, not a “rant” against either religion or believers. Knock it off.
by Faust on Jan 22, 2010 9:02 PM PST up reply actions 5 recs
Totally agree.
"Since other people actually read these threads, though, probably best that your particular brand of wrongness not go completely unchallenged." - PT
There are differing opinions on me. According to Iglew "DFA is PT with a sense of humor. PT is DFA with introspective self-doubt. I like them both" but according to sirbed Im "The Stats Killer"
by designatedforassignment on Jan 22, 2010 9:03 PM PST up reply actions
Yup. We probalby should have had the religious CGV rules supressed for this post, due to the topic.
by LoneStranger on Jan 22, 2010 9:50 PM PST up reply actions
If they weren't, the entire population of this blog would have been banned ten times over.
Always the summers are slipping away.
Find me a way for making it stay.
The CGV allow for this kind of discussion.
Comments that bring politics, or other highly inflammatory non-baseball related topics, onto AN
As long as it is related to baseball. If you want to talk about Holliday’s clubhouse evangelism, of Desme’s path to priest hood its fair game.
"Since other people actually read these threads, though, probably best that your particular brand of wrongness not go completely unchallenged." - PT
There are differing opinions on me. According to Iglew "DFA is PT with a sense of humor. PT is DFA with introspective self-doubt. I like them both" but according to sirbed Im "The Stats Killer"
by designatedforassignment on Jan 22, 2010 10:02 PM PST up reply actions
Sure
Where it starts getting away from that into basic bashing of religion – again, even if I’d agree with some of it – is where I draw my personal line.
Last of the Ninth - Photography
Hey, I can flag anything I want
You can flag me for flagging it if you want to. Go right ahead.
Again, like I said above there’s a difference between discussing Desme’s decision and taking it as an open chance to completely rip religion itself. And I’m saying that as someone who isn’t very religious at all. If anything I agree with some of the criticisms more than anything else, but I don’t see them belonging here.
Last of the Ninth - Photography
I've got a great idea
on Flag Day we’ll have a “flagging thread” where we can all flag each other as many times as possible.
You in?
I don't think that
Sock puppets have never been able to successfully attack castles. -NM
by Leopold Bloom on Jan 22, 2010 10:00 PM PST up reply actions
...s what the people who made that day had in mind.
Sock puppets have never been able to successfully attack castles. -NM
by Leopold Bloom on Jan 22, 2010 10:00 PM PST up reply actions
How about a Hit Post Prematurely day, where
Always the summers are slipping away.
Find me a way for making it stay.
we can all hit Post prematurely?
Always the summers are slipping away.
Find me a way for making it stay.
by danmerqury on Jan 22, 2010 10:02 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Prematurely
To combat it, I think about whether or not Cust is good or bad for the A’s.
Hey Al, just go away, baby.
I think about dirty bums rolling around in their own filth.
Sock puppets have never been able to successfully attack castles. -NM
by Leopold Bloom on Jan 22, 2010 10:13 PM PST up reply actions
I'm not flagging you
I’m damned (sorry, I can’t resist using that word a lot in this thread) if I’m going to flag every damned thing I disagree with. I just think you’re being moralistic there. I don’t think you’re granting credence to anyone whose actual experience of religion is seriously negative, which is not at all the same thing as anti-religious bigotry.
I guess Matt Holliday got to him?
"The A's get some action but they do not score..." -Glen Kuiper
"Anyone who calls themselves the Angels Angels should have to start over and ride the short bus." -timmeh from McCovey Chronicles
I wanna say something about magic but I can't think of anyting.
:(
by ElQuesoCapitan on Jan 22, 2010 12:48 PM PST reply actions
I'll say something about magic
There are many things that humans cannot explain and/or effectively utilize and/or measure right now that they will be able to explain and/or effectively utilize and/or measure in the future.
Some folks, preferring simpler frameworks and explanations, choose to disregard things/energies/ideas that they cannot explain, measure, or effectively utilize.
Other folks, feeling at home with more complex and open frameworks and explanations, choose to explore and attempt to create and/or utilize ideas, things, and methodologies that they do not completely understand.
"Sniff some krazy glue, and start a religion!"- The Reverend Billy Lard
by Gaijin_Suketto on Jan 22, 2010 1:57 PM PST up reply actions
SHOOTING FIREBALLS FROM YOUR FINGERS!
by ElQuesoCapitan on Jan 22, 2010 1:58 PM PST up reply actions
we're almost there...
replace fingers with robotic fingers with nano-sensors and mini-liquid cannons and a fuel and ignition system…
The only thing in the way is “ethics.”
"Sniff some krazy glue, and start a religion!"- The Reverend Billy Lard
by Gaijin_Suketto on Jan 22, 2010 2:08 PM PST up reply actions
So, basically, you want to be a Techno-mage
N’est ce pas?
Shawn Spencer: "I’m receiving a transmission from your husband. Really more of a voicemail, if I'm being honest. A status update. Perhaps a twitter."
Burton Guster: "I believe it’s called a tweet."
Shawn Spencer: "There’s no way I’m saying that."
I want to be a good natured time travelling meddler
creating alternate timelines for funsies.
"Sniff some krazy glue, and start a religion!"- The Reverend Billy Lard
by Gaijin_Suketto on Jan 22, 2010 9:43 PM PST up reply actions
did you know that flamethrowers are not illegal to own in the US?
at least according to cracked.com, hhmm, maybe I shouldn’t have sited that source?
You have to include smiley faces - Poppy
;- ) :- ) :-O : -> : -] : -}
Yeah, it takes a lot to get rid of the smell of urine, doesn't it
I suspect that you think tilting at windmills means something other than what it does.
Desme retiring is like a Grim Tutor
He sacrifices himself for something else, and then we lose a little life.
m*****f***ing c***s***ing peanut butter and jelly!! f*** f*** f***!!!
QOTM, MTG category
Kamahl, Pit Fighter, says “hi.” and taps to do three to your dome.
"Sniff some krazy glue, and start a religion!"- The Reverend Billy Lard
by Gaijin_Suketto on Jan 24, 2010 9:48 AM PST up reply actions
So the Vatican owes us a draft pick now, right?
"And Julio Franco is batting right-handed!" -- Wayne Hagin, A's radio play-by-play, mid-80s
by Nick on Jan 22, 2010 12:50 PM PST reply actions 3 recs
If there is an almighty
I’d prefer that it bring us Ben Sheets.
"Do I talk to myself? No, I just remind myself of what I'm trying to do. You know, I never answer myself so how can I be talking to myself?" - Rickey
by cuppingmaster on Jan 22, 2010 12:57 PM PST up reply actions
that'll cost 800,000 a start at that rate...
"Sniff some krazy glue, and start a religion!"- The Reverend Billy Lard
by Gaijin_Suketto on Jan 22, 2010 1:37 PM PST up reply actions
Arm like an All Star
Built like a pickle jar
by ElQuesoCapitan on Jan 22, 2010 1:00 PM PST up reply actions
a HEALTHY Ben Sheets :-)
"Do I talk to myself? No, I just remind myself of what I'm trying to do. You know, I never answer myself so how can I be talking to myself?" - Rickey
by cuppingmaster on Jan 22, 2010 1:02 PM PST up reply actions
This thread is full of great lines
:-0
You have to include smiley faces - Poppy
;- ) :- ) :-O : -> : -] : -}
No kidding
tag them for me :-)
"Bobby Crosby at third is a bit of an adventure. And not like, here’s some hidden treasure, what fun. More like, gah! poison ants!" --alea iacta est
by baseballgirl on Jan 22, 2010 1:31 PM PST up reply actions
do we get 3 #1 compensation for losing a player to God?
Maybe we can stay healthier now that we have an insider with god.
Lance "you sunk my" Blankenship
by ryanmoser on Jan 22, 2010 12:57 PM PST via mobile reply actions 1 recs
QOTM for first line
"Bobby Crosby at third is a bit of an adventure. And not like, here’s some hidden treasure, what fun. More like, gah! poison ants!" --alea iacta est
by baseballgirl on Jan 22, 2010 1:32 PM PST up reply actions
I respect his decision.
I’ve chosen a profession which offers me the opportunity to make quite a bit of money, and am in a position that many would find very desirable. But I think about quitting to become a teacher all the time.
I know that I want to dedicate my life in service of others, and I know that if I stay in my current profession my ability to do that may improve due to increased influence and wealth. Yet, I feel like I’m wasting time all the while. I want to get out there and help people now.
A friend of mine, my age, 24, died on Wednesday. Our lives are too short to wait around for the perfect conditions to begin living our lives the way we want to. I’m probably gonna stick it out with my current path, but I can understand Desme’s logic here.
As for the religious element. Whether or not you think his motivation is in vain, he will undoubtedly be helping people, and I respect that.
"Tarry not on the subject, danmerqury, for the heathen will surely be cleansed by the hellefire cast downe upon him by Bill James Moste High, praise his name."
by LongLiveLangerhans on Jan 22, 2010 1:00 PM PST reply actions 4 recs
Desme is already the front man on a Christian band!!
by Colorado Booze Hounds on Jan 22, 2010 1:01 PM PST reply actions
I like Marilyn Manson's version better
You have to include smiley faces - Poppy
;- ) :- ) :-O : -> : -] : -}
John Sickels says it well...
I’ll say this about it: I have a lot more respect for this than I do for people who thank God for helping them make the touchdown or win the big game. Grant Desme is showing genuine courage today, doing what he thinks is the right thing no matter what the rest of the world says.
I personally don’t feel like I have to respect the religion to respect the decision.
by kidlondon on Jan 22, 2010 1:05 PM PST reply actions 8 recs
oh, link would help.
http://www.minorleagueball.com/2010/1/22/1265301/grant-desme-leaving-baseball-for
Sickels also has an excerpt from his Prospect Book about Desme.
I absolutely respect and agree with that.
"Bobby Crosby at third is a bit of an adventure. And not like, here’s some hidden treasure, what fun. More like, gah! poison ants!" --alea iacta est
by baseballgirl on Jan 22, 2010 1:15 PM PST up reply actions
Well, like, everyone knows that Sickels is a better person than Law...
The only question is which one is a better analyst…
Shawn Spencer: "I’m receiving a transmission from your husband. Really more of a voicemail, if I'm being honest. A status update. Perhaps a twitter."
Burton Guster: "I believe it’s called a tweet."
Shawn Spencer: "There’s no way I’m saying that."
Well, we know you think little of Law as an analyst
So if this is a question in your mind, do you not think very highly of Sickels either?
And could you explain about “everyone knows that Sickels is a better person than Law”? I’ve seen Sickels talk about his past a little, but really I don’t know diddly about either of them as individuals, and so I’m not part of the “everyone” you cite.
Damn this is a great thread.
Note that PT isn't in the process of getting a Sickels degree.
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
The way my summer job search is going
quitting and going to wheat-farming school instead might not be the worst idea ever.
Shawn Spencer: "I’m receiving a transmission from your husband. Really more of a voicemail, if I'm being honest. A status update. Perhaps a twitter."
Burton Guster: "I believe it’s called a tweet."
Shawn Spencer: "There’s no way I’m saying that."
Wait, you didn't actually choose law school because
you thought it would be good for employment, did you?
Surely you of all people could see the supply and demand curve better than that.
There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, Than are dreamt of in your philosophy.
He's going to quit law school and become an outfielder for the A's.
You know, follow his heart and all.
by LoneStranger on Jan 23, 2010 12:55 AM PST up reply actions
My other employment option was academia
…
…
Shawn Spencer: "I’m receiving a transmission from your husband. Really more of a voicemail, if I'm being honest. A status update. Perhaps a twitter."
Burton Guster: "I believe it’s called a tweet."
Shawn Spencer: "There’s no way I’m saying that."
i hear you
getting a bachelor’s degree will never feel so pointless
"If you hit .440 with 20 bombs, you don't have to do s---. You don't have to bring a glove to practice, just hit and leave whenever you want. You can bring a 40 and smoke a cigarette and call me from the parking lot asking me what time the game is, and I'll tell you. You can even say 'F--- you, Steve!' Actually, don't say that, that wouldn't be very nice." -Steve Friend, Head Coach, Chabot College Gladiators Baseball
No
My current opinion on the subject is that Sickels is a far more thorough and evenhanded analyst than Law is.
That said, that opinion could theoretically change if someone demonstrated that Law had, eg, a much higher “hit rate” than Sickels. Whereas I can’t see any real way that I would ever change to the belief that Law was a nicer guy than Sickels (an opinion formed from seeing the way the two of them interact with people in chats).
Shawn Spencer: "I’m receiving a transmission from your husband. Really more of a voicemail, if I'm being honest. A status update. Perhaps a twitter."
Burton Guster: "I believe it’s called a tweet."
Shawn Spencer: "There’s no way I’m saying that."
OK
I’ve read enough of Sickels that I’d certainly take him as a decent human being (which I guess contradicts my earlier statement that I didn’t know diddly about either of them).
I am curious why you think Law is a “fourth analyst”, though. I tend not to bother with ESPN or ESPN.com, so I mostly miss Law’s stuff, but what I have seen has struck me as pretty reasonable. I know a lot of people think he’s biased against the A’s (or whatever their team happens to be), but that’s par for the course. I doubt you think he’s “biased” in the sense of having a particular hatred for some teams, but I’d be interested to know where you think he’s not “evenhanded”. This isn’t a challenge – I know you know more about the guy than I do.
He's routinely wrong about basic details of players
in such a way that it makes it clear that he’s drawing conclusions based largely on extremely small samples of eyeball-scouted data. Eg ranking Gio Gonzalez way down based on the (laughable) notion that he had an 85-MPH fastball (it’s actually over 90 MPH).
Shawn Spencer: "I’m receiving a transmission from your husband. Really more of a voicemail, if I'm being honest. A status update. Perhaps a twitter."
Burton Guster: "I believe it’s called a tweet."
Shawn Spencer: "There’s no way I’m saying that."
I thought Gio was below 90...
Sock puppets have never been able to successfully attack castles. -NM
by Leopold Bloom on Jan 22, 2010 10:37 PM PST up reply actions
Total – - – 62.3% (91.1)
Shawn Spencer: "I’m receiving a transmission from your husband. Really more of a voicemail, if I'm being honest. A status update. Perhaps a twitter."
Burton Guster: "I believe it’s called a tweet."
Shawn Spencer: "There’s no way I’m saying that."
huh.
he must’ve pulled it up some, because I remember them talking when he debuted that he topped out at 89…that was a couple years ago now, right? Toronto, 08?
Sock puppets have never been able to successfully attack castles. -NM
by Leopold Bloom on Jan 22, 2010 10:44 PM PST up reply actions
It's possible
The A’s have had some success teaching better velocity to their pitching prospects of late.
Still, even at the time he said it, the notion that Gonzalez was routinely throwing 85 MPH was ridonkulous, and easily disproved by actually watching the guy on more than one occasion.
Shawn Spencer: "I’m receiving a transmission from your husband. Really more of a voicemail, if I'm being honest. A status update. Perhaps a twitter."
Burton Guster: "I believe it’s called a tweet."
Shawn Spencer: "There’s no way I’m saying that."
Interesting
The only comment of Law’s pertaining to Gio that I remember (not that I’ve been able to find it since reading it, but it was about the time the A’s acquired him) dissed him on the basis of seeing him fall apart on the mount when things got stressful. Which seemed to be a pretty accurate assessment of Gio from what I saw of him, and a very rational reason to discount expectations otherwise based on his stats and his stuff.
I must say, Gio’s really brought me around on this. The back-to-back outings in New York and Boston surprised the hell out of me, when I was certain he was going to get crushed – talk about high-pressure situations! That, and his frank, open acknowledgment that “composure” on the mound is something he has to work hard on, has really made me buy into the notion that he may actually be capable of learning what he needs to learn to be successful. He’s such an ingenuously friendly guy, I’d love to see him succeed (although as an Athletic, I’d like to see him succeed even if he was an asshole – but it’s better if he’s actually a decent human being).
This comment is really about Gio, not Law. I don’t know enough to make any independent judgment about Law either pro or con.
This is a perspective I can respect
No soapboxing, no nothing. See the decision for what it is: A bold decision to completely change your life path, one that will shock many people (including family and friends) and probably be morally challenged by anyone fancying themselves a pundit.
I respect it, but I think it's a stretch to say "ZOMG this shows courage!!!"
No, it’s a decision.
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
by Nico on Jan 22, 2010 6:51 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
I wonder what people would think
if Desme had quit to get a sex change, instead.
"Sniff some krazy glue, and start a religion!"- The Reverend Billy Lard
by Gaijin_Suketto on Jan 24, 2010 9:50 AM PST up reply actions
I'd say, "Can she play shortstop?"
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
QOTM
"Bobby Crosby at third is a bit of an adventure. And not like, here’s some hidden treasure, what fun. More like, gah! poison ants!" --alea iacta est
by baseballgirl on Jan 24, 2010 12:02 PM PST up reply actions
Susan Slusser has some good details about the story
Keith Lieppman, the A’s farm director, told me the news was a surprise to him; when assistant GM David Forst called him with the news, he told him to make sure he was sitting down.
“He was right on the verge of fame and fortune and glamour, and he’s denying all that,” said Lieppman, who spoke to Desme after Desme had called GM Billy Beane to tell him of his decision. “He’s going in a totally different direction. Grant said it was a very powerful call, and that’s much more important.”
Read more: http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/blogs/athletics/detail?&entry_id=55819#ixzz0dNTjrGli
You have to include smiley faces - Poppy
;- ) :- ) :-O : -> : -] : -}
People seem to be taking this very personally
In all seriousness, it’s his choice to make. Maybe it’s not one I’d make (hint – it’s not one I’d make), but then, so what.
And in all seriousness – if you oppose this decision because you think a life in the Priesthood is a waste, then surely the organisation with whom you should be mad would be his regilious affiliate of choice?
For all of my suspicions of any religion, organised or not, he’s passed up the opportunity to make millions of dollars to do something that he believes is right. I can respect that decision, even if it’s not one I’d take.
Also, remember, Jesus Saves, but Shearer puts in the rebound
I suspect that you think tilting at windmills means something other than what it does.
by bobnothing on Jan 22, 2010 1:12 PM PST reply actions 1 recs
you don't have to either support or chide the reason for his decision
to be shocked and disappointed as a fan. I think this sucks because it sucks for the A’s and it sucks for me as a fan. The rest is not my concern.
I'm disappointed as a fan because I'd have loved to see what he could do at higher levels...
…but I still respect his decision and wish him the best on it.
It isn’t my place nor anyone else’s to say he’s wrong in doing this if he’s committed to this path. Clearly baseball is not the most important thing in his life.
Last of the Ninth - Photography
"I'm disappointed as a fan because I'd have loved to see what he could do at higher levels..."
Isn’t that what he’s doing?
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
i see what you did there
probably not the point FF was making though.
"If you hit .440 with 20 bombs, you don't have to do s---. You don't have to bring a glove to practice, just hit and leave whenever you want. You can bring a 40 and smoke a cigarette and call me from the parking lot asking me what time the game is, and I'll tell you. You can even say 'F--- you, Steve!' Actually, don't say that, that wouldn't be very nice." -Steve Friend, Head Coach, Chabot College Gladiators Baseball
Awesome Grant!
I am proud of you for following your heart. As for the religion debate that’s going on here – even being anti-religious feeds into the insane hatred that is going on all over the world. You can not presume to know what goes on in a man’s heart when he makes a decision like this. Good for you. I have the utmost respect.
by Chilango on Jan 22, 2010 1:18 PM PST reply actions
So being anti-religious "feeds into insane hatred"
but being pro-religious doesn’t.
Yeah, that’s very neutral.
Shawn Spencer: "I’m receiving a transmission from your husband. Really more of a voicemail, if I'm being honest. A status update. Perhaps a twitter."
Burton Guster: "I believe it’s called a tweet."
Shawn Spencer: "There’s no way I’m saying that."
by PaulThomas on Jan 22, 2010 2:01 PM PST up reply actions 2 recs
He didn't say that
even being anti-religious
m*****f***ing c***s***ing peanut butter and jelly!! f*** f*** f***!!!
Well, if he's trying to argue that any mention of religion either pro or against "feeds into insane hatred"
then it’s just a catch-22. There’s no way to tell someone not to think of an elephant.
Shawn Spencer: "I’m receiving a transmission from your husband. Really more of a voicemail, if I'm being honest. A status update. Perhaps a twitter."
Burton Guster: "I believe it’s called a tweet."
Shawn Spencer: "There’s no way I’m saying that."
Speaking of a catch-22:
100 fly balls to Jack Cust!
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
That's catch-32, and it never happens.
by ElQuesoCapitan on Jan 22, 2010 5:29 PM PST up reply actions
Oh, I think he could catch 32 out of 100.
Easy.
Maybe even 40 or 50!
"Sniff some krazy glue, and start a religion!"- The Reverend Billy Lard
by Gaijin_Suketto on Jan 24, 2010 9:52 AM PST up reply actions
No, it
just has to do with the tendency of people who are anti-religious to think that they are above the fray when it comes to the ‘insane hatred’ that the human race can display towards other humans. It is clear to me that anti-religious sentiments can feed into the same ugly strains in the human condition. Like the religious are the evil and the non- the righteous.
Just because you don’t profess to embrace anything spiritual in your life doesn’t make you more intelligent than those who do. In fact, it is pretty widely acknowledged that people who don’t are up to 50% less intelligent than those who do.
by Chilango on Jan 22, 2010 4:55 PM PST up reply actions
okay, I was following up until that last sentence.
….
…..
…….what?
by cityplANner on Jan 22, 2010 5:00 PM PST up reply actions 2 recs
It is pretty widely acknowledged that up to 50% of unproven blanket assertions are completely true.
"And Julio Franco is batting right-handed!" -- Wayne Hagin, A's radio play-by-play, mid-80s
by Nick on Jan 22, 2010 5:01 PM PST up reply actions 2 recs
Yep. I read it on the Internet.
There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, Than are dreamt of in your philosophy.
I didn't just read it on the internet,
I made it up myself!
"Sniff some krazy glue, and start a religion!"- The Reverend Billy Lard
by Gaijin_Suketto on Jan 24, 2010 9:52 AM PST up reply actions
woah, that last line,
can you clarify – are you saying that research shows that ‘spiritual people’ are up to 50% more ‘intelligent’ than ‘non-spiritual people’?
If so, can you cite your sources, please?
I suspect that you think tilting at windmills means something other than what it does.
and, honestly
what does “spiritual” versus “non-spiritual” mean anyhow?
I read the Tao Te Ching and it changed the way I tried to relate to the world. Does that, in and of itself, make ME spiritual? (though I’d hardly choose to wear the moniker).
To be fair to him
he did use the phrase ‘profess to embrace’, so I guess it’s about those who identify themselves as such.
Still, I’m quite interested to see what it’s based on!
I suspect that you think tilting at windmills means something other than what it does.
Those of us who aren't spiritual
are having 50% more trouble understanding this statistic.
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
hm, maybe you're right - his point is proven by my not understanding it
I suspect that you think tilting at windmills means something other than what it does.
I vaguely remember some study
backing up Chilango’s point…
Something I read on Yahoo a year or two ago…
but, almost needless to say, it’s kind of dumb to quote vaguely-remembered studies around these parts.
"Sniff some krazy glue, and start a religion!"- The Reverend Billy Lard
by Gaijin_Suketto on Jan 24, 2010 9:55 AM PST up reply actions
cityplANer, I would say yes.
But you don’t have to wear it like a church robe. You can wear it like an undershirt.
"Sniff some krazy glue, and start a religion!"- The Reverend Billy Lard
by Gaijin_Suketto on Jan 24, 2010 9:53 AM PST up reply actions
He said "up to". It's a truism.
"And Julio Franco is batting right-handed!" -- Wayne Hagin, A's radio play-by-play, mid-80s
it's more of a wrongism
I suspect that you think tilting at windmills means something other than what it does.
I'd go further and call it a lie-ism
I googled “correlation between intelligence and religion” (I’ll spare the thread the results in the interests of making this thread slightly less off-topic than it might be) and found plenty of opinions on this issue, but nothing that would make his claim even remotely appropriate or valid.
I’ve flagged that post.
Shawn Spencer: "I’m receiving a transmission from your husband. Really more of a voicemail, if I'm being honest. A status update. Perhaps a twitter."
Burton Guster: "I believe it’s called a tweet."
Shawn Spencer: "There’s no way I’m saying that."
The last line was just for fun
as it referenced Paul’s line about “The vow of poverty has been a pretty widely acknowledged joke in Christianity for at least the last 1600 years”… sort of being an inside joke about an inside joke, since “pretty widely acknowledged” basically means “I think”. Maybe just an inside joke inside my head…
That being said, I think this whole thread is a fairly indicative illustration about the conflict between faith against faith, and the faithless against the faithful. It is a bit troubling how some people call into question Desme’s decision simply because he opted to join the priesthood, as opposed to become a, say, investment banker.
by Chilango on Jan 22, 2010 7:56 PM PST up reply actions
This is just wrong... you think people would be less pissed if he became an investment banker?
After 2008/9 people hate investment bankers.
"Since other people actually read these threads, though, probably best that your particular brand of wrongness not go completely unchallenged." - PT
There are differing opinions on me. According to Iglew "DFA is PT with a sense of humor. PT is DFA with introspective self-doubt. I like them both" but according to sirbed Im "The Stats Killer"
by designatedforassignment on Jan 22, 2010 9:10 PM PST up reply actions
It's not just that
I’d think it was pretty equally foolish and, since I don’t care about Grant Desme the person at all, would be just as displeased about the impact on the A’s.
Shawn Spencer: "I’m receiving a transmission from your husband. Really more of a voicemail, if I'm being honest. A status update. Perhaps a twitter."
Burton Guster: "I believe it’s called a tweet."
Shawn Spencer: "There’s no way I’m saying that."
Right I was just going for the silliest part
"Since other people actually read these threads, though, probably best that your particular brand of wrongness not go completely unchallenged." - PT
There are differing opinions on me. According to Iglew "DFA is PT with a sense of humor. PT is DFA with introspective self-doubt. I like them both" but according to sirbed Im "The Stats Killer"
by designatedforassignment on Jan 22, 2010 9:50 PM PST up reply actions
No, "pretty widely acknowledged"
means “substantial scholarly consensus by serious historians of this subject.”
Shawn Spencer: "I’m receiving a transmission from your husband. Really more of a voicemail, if I'm being honest. A status update. Perhaps a twitter."
Burton Guster: "I believe it’s called a tweet."
Shawn Spencer: "There’s no way I’m saying that."
by PaulThomas on Jan 22, 2010 9:22 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
No, "pretty widely acknowledged"
means whatever you want it to mean. If you wanted to say "substantial scholarly consensus by serious historians of this subject." you would have said that. I believe we are all subjected to enough advertising speak that we can see through purposely vague language. Can you sue somebody over claiming that their product is “pretty widely acknowledged” to be the best on the market? Of course not. Defining “pretty,” "widely, " and “acknowledged” in an objective way is impossible. All three are subjective words that are open to interpretation. Fertile ground for obtuse jokes, if I do say so myself.
Reading through this thread, there are indeed attacks on religion and the perceived intelligence of being religious that I find reflected in “intelligent” society as a whole. I will say again that we can not presume to judge what motivates someone in their heart of hearts, and what gives them meaning in their lives. (I am not religious myself, not that it should matter)
by Chilango on Jan 22, 2010 9:42 PM PST up reply actions
The nonzero risk of getting CGVed for whatever response I would otherwise make to this post
clearly outweighs the essentially zero purpose that would be served by actually responding in substance to it. It’s pretty pointless to attempt to argue with postmodernism anyway— usually mockery is much more effective, but that’s not cricket around these parts.
Shawn Spencer: "I’m receiving a transmission from your husband. Really more of a voicemail, if I'm being honest. A status update. Perhaps a twitter."
Burton Guster: "I believe it’s called a tweet."
Shawn Spencer: "There’s no way I’m saying that."
blasphemous!
kill the infidel!
Sock puppets have never been able to successfully attack castles. -NM
by Leopold Bloom on Jan 22, 2010 10:31 PM PST up reply actions
Some of the postmodernists that I can actually stand, like Derrida,
do have a sense of humor. But most of them are almost painfully earnest.
Shawn Spencer: "I’m receiving a transmission from your husband. Really more of a voicemail, if I'm being honest. A status update. Perhaps a twitter."
Burton Guster: "I believe it’s called a tweet."
Shawn Spencer: "There’s no way I’m saying that."
And that is why we hate it.
There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, Than are dreamt of in your philosophy.
speak. for. your. self.
I love both Pynchon and Don DeLilo. And Julian Barnes can be a very good time, too.
Sock puppets have never been able to successfully attack castles. -NM
by Leopold Bloom on Jan 22, 2010 10:46 PM PST up reply actions
I save my special hatred for
postmodernist comedy. Mockery is the enemy of humor. The way in which contemporary culture has yoked the two is one of the great evils of our time.
There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, Than are dreamt of in your philosophy.
It depends of whom you speak.
We differ here some, but there are members of the hipster brigade I wanna whack with a 2×4.
Sock puppets have never been able to successfully attack castles. -NM
by Leopold Bloom on Jan 22, 2010 10:56 PM PST up reply actions
I hate anyone who does that smirky eyebrow thing.
You know, the one that says, “Look at how stupid they are; you and I are smarter than that.”
There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, Than are dreamt of in your philosophy.
(um, I do the smirky eyebrow thing
unintentionally, but I do. A lot. I talk with my eyebrows a lot)
Sock puppets have never been able to successfully attack castles. -NM
by Leopold Bloom on Jan 22, 2010 10:59 PM PST up reply actions
The Rock
You were the man!
The Ultimate Opportunist
by Rated-R Superstar on Jan 22, 2010 11:00 PM PST up reply actions
I don't get postmodernism.
If I were the king of the world, “The modern era” would always be defined as “now minus five years”, and would be constantly moving, and “postmodernism” could not exist without time travel.
I know there’s a perfectly collegiate explanation for all this horsepucky, but that’s why I didn’t go to college!
"Sniff some krazy glue, and start a religion!"- The Reverend Billy Lard
by Gaijin_Suketto on Jan 24, 2010 10:00 AM PST up reply actions
What makes it even funnier is
that postmodernism and modernism are essentially the same thing.
The only difference is that in “postmodernism” you’re being modernist on purpose, whereas with modernism it’s just modernism happening naturally.
But since self-conscious artificiality is an essential part of modernism, in a sense natural modernism isn’t truly modernist. Postmodernism is really meta-modernism, but it has to be meta in order to be truly itself.
There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, Than are dreamt of in your philosophy.
we hates it!!
SSSsssSSS
It burnses usss!!!
by cityplANner on Jan 22, 2010 10:47 PM PST up reply actions
Mock on soul brother...
I figured since you are studying law, you might be susceptible to arguments surrounding sue-able language.
The crickets are not yet chirping around these parts. Nothing short of Father Desme himself laying his hands upon this thread shall put it to sleep.
by Chilango on Jan 22, 2010 10:55 PM PST up reply actions
Okay, I see where you're going with that
and your first paragraph has a point to an extent.
But since this thread has unleashed the hounds: making an assertion that the church has had a problem with maintaining the vow of poverty in no way resembles making up a random statistic.
The Franciscans, Dominicans, Cistercians, Carmelites and Jesuits (to an extent) were all founded on what was perceived to have been the “worldliness” and “decadence” of the church (and often-times the older monastic orders that had let themselves be co-opted). The Avignon Papacy, Leo X’s sale of indulgences, the Borgia Popes, the Medici Popes. There’s plenty to go around.
This is in no way an attack on religion. I think it’s great. I attend Catholic high school (though I am not a member of the church). But, c’mon guys, let’s be honest here.
Just curious, Paul
You’ve mentioned flagging a number of posts recently. Am I remembering wrongly (which is very, very possible)? I thought you used to be one of those who didn’t much believe in flagging posts, however obnoxious.
He was converted on the road to Damascus.
or maybe it was El Cerrito.
Sock puppets have never been able to successfully attack castles. -NM
by Leopold Bloom on Jan 22, 2010 9:24 PM PST up reply actions
you flatter me, sir.
Sock puppets have never been able to successfully attack castles. -NM
by Leopold Bloom on Jan 22, 2010 10:17 PM PST up reply actions
No, you're remembering right
I have no compunctions about breaking it out when I feel like someone is either pursuing a personal vendetta or trolling the site, though. The first is for self-preservation reasons (since “responding in kind” will rapidly get me tossed out on my ear again). The second is just for purposes of improving the discourse.
Shawn Spencer: "I’m receiving a transmission from your husband. Really more of a voicemail, if I'm being honest. A status update. Perhaps a twitter."
Burton Guster: "I believe it’s called a tweet."
Shawn Spencer: "There’s no way I’m saying that."
I like my answer better.
Sock puppets have never been able to successfully attack castles. -NM
by Leopold Bloom on Jan 22, 2010 9:28 PM PST up reply actions
Me too.
"In fact, it is pretty widely acknowledged that people who don’t are up to 50% less intelligent than those who do." Chilango, in "the God thread"
by LongLiveLangerhans on Jan 23, 2010 3:35 AM PST up reply actions
Thanks for the new sigline.
I want to end all of my arguments with that statement.
"In fact, it is pretty widely acknowledged that people who don’t are up to 50% less intelligent than those who do." Chilango, in "the God thread"
by LongLiveLangerhans on Jan 22, 2010 5:40 PM PST up reply actions
Can we change the name of this thread to "The God thread?"
Might be more appropriate than the “Desme retiring” thread.
Well, you kind of took the fun out of it by explaining yourself.
But I’ll stick with it for now.
"In fact, it is pretty widely acknowledged that people who don’t are up to 50% less intelligent than those who do." Chilango, in "the God thread"
by LongLiveLangerhans on Jan 23, 2010 3:58 AM PST up reply actions
Excellent with the Lakoff reference.
"Life is a horizontal fall" -Jean Cocteau
by King Richard on Jan 22, 2010 7:19 PM PST up reply actions
I think it's an interesting decision
I’ve always said that in life, when you want to do different things that conflict with each other, you have to assign them importance based on what will not wait. A professional sports career will not keep; you have to do that in your 20’s, or you don’t do it at all. I’d be curious to know why he doesn’t believe that he could do both, but maybe his calling happened NOW, and he can’t change that, and it’s clearly something he feels strongly enough about to make an incredibly bold decision, and upset a lot of people. But it’s HIS life, and his choice, and his talent, and he has the free will to choose whatever he thinks is best for his life.
It’s his life, it’s his path to follow, and I wish him nothing but the best.
"Bobby Crosby at third is a bit of an adventure. And not like, here’s some hidden treasure, what fun. More like, gah! poison ants!" --alea iacta est
by baseballgirl on Jan 22, 2010 1:21 PM PST reply actions 4 recs
Time to 'fess up BBG
You got him to do this so he could officiate at your wedding, right?
"And Julio Franco is batting right-handed!" -- Wayne Hagin, A's radio play-by-play, mid-80s
by Nick on Jan 22, 2010 1:50 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Of course...was it THAT obvious?
"Bobby Crosby at third is a bit of an adventure. And not like, here’s some hidden treasure, what fun. More like, gah! poison ants!" --alea iacta est
by baseballgirl on Jan 22, 2010 2:26 PM PST up reply actions
Life is short
and if this is what he wants to do with his life then good for him.
If becoming a priest is his true passion then I doubt he would have made the show anyways. I would think to make it to the big leagues baseball has to be the number one thing in your life and clearly it wasn’t for Desme.
That's a very good point.
You have to be all in to go all the way.
"Bobby Crosby at third is a bit of an adventure. And not like, here’s some hidden treasure, what fun. More like, gah! poison ants!" --alea iacta est
by baseballgirl on Jan 22, 2010 1:22 PM PST up reply actions
yeah, that too
"Bobby Crosby at third is a bit of an adventure. And not like, here’s some hidden treasure, what fun. More like, gah! poison ants!" --alea iacta est
by baseballgirl on Jan 22, 2010 1:32 PM PST up reply actions
so do I get a QOTM, TWSS edition? :-)
or is that expression getting too old on AN? I’ve never had a QOTM :-(
You have to include smiley faces - Poppy
;- ) :- ) :-O : -> : -] : -}
QOTM! (just for you :-))
"Bobby Crosby at third is a bit of an adventure. And not like, here’s some hidden treasure, what fun. More like, gah! poison ants!" --alea iacta est
by baseballgirl on Jan 22, 2010 3:43 PM PST up reply actions
There is no such thing as QOTM, TWSS edition.
And there hasn’t been since the mid 1990s.
There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, Than are dreamt of in your philosophy.
If I ever finish the QOTM post I've been working on for FIVE hours now and am only through 1/7's posts
you will be well represented, Mickey!
"Sniff some krazy glue, and start a religion!"- The Reverend Billy Lard
by Gaijin_Suketto on Jan 24, 2010 10:03 AM PST up reply actions
he must've struggled making this decision, it couldn't have been easy
regardless what you think of it
It woulda been hard for me to leave but i support him.
i have a more respect for him. i hope it turns out better than he plans for it to go and god uses him in a great way. :)
We would've taken up a collection.
What are we at the park for except to win? I'd trip my mother. I'd help her up, brusher her off, tell her I'm sorry. But mother don't make it to third. ~Leo Durocher
QOTM...awesome :-)
"Bobby Crosby at third is a bit of an adventure. And not like, here’s some hidden treasure, what fun. More like, gah! poison ants!" --alea iacta est
by baseballgirl on Jan 22, 2010 2:26 PM PST up reply actions
Total surprise.
Good luck in life Desme!
"I think people were ready to watch some hockey. We took up enough of everyone’s time."
-Jody Shelley after an 87 second hockey fight against Cam Janssen
Thinking about this for a little while
and by ‘thinking’, I mean, ‘making lunch’, my feelings on this are similar to those that I epxerienced when the bass player from CSS quit the band on a matter of principle – that is, she was concerned about global warming.
I mean, I’d never have quite CSS, like I’d not ever have left the A’s, and yeah, I’m disappointed as she was an important part of the group, but when you get down to it, really, she’s just the bass player.
And things will continue apace.
I suspect that you think tilting at windmills means something other than what it does.
I have no idea who CSS is
so her decision didn’t effect me much although I’m curious now how does quiting a band help global warming?
Well, they are from Brazil
and did a lot of travelling around (by aeroplane) to shows, and all that.
She didn’t want to be a party to that.
Which is fair enough, really
I suspect that you think tilting at windmills means something other than what it does.
Yeah that makes sense
I always crack up when some of these celeb types talk about enviromental issues while flying in private jets so good for her.
respect knuckles for the indie pop reference
"Since other people actually read these threads, though, probably best that your particular brand of wrongness not go completely unchallenged." - PT
There are differing opinions on me. According to Iglew "DFA is PT with a sense of humor. PT is DFA with introspective self-doubt. I like them both" but according to sirbed Im "The Stats Killer"
by designatedforassignment on Jan 22, 2010 2:17 PM PST up reply actions
Actually, their second album was a lot, lot worse
so maybe my analogy is not apt
I suspect that you think tilting at windmills means something other than what it does.
Damn your sig line
I always initially read it as “Goats on Film.”
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
funny you should say that
in off years, we’re going to put on farming related movies and call it Goats on Film.
I suspect that you think tilting at windmills means something other than what it does.
Nico, I go to all this trouble to tell the people
that the goat thing is dead,
and here YOU go, bringing it back up again.
"Sniff some krazy glue, and start a religion!"- The Reverend Billy Lard
by Gaijin_Suketto on Jan 24, 2010 10:04 AM PST up reply actions
It is dead
I just don’t read well.
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
I'm just trying to get you in game shape for the upcoming season...
remember, I won’t be there to defend you in the game threads. You’ll be on your own!
"Sniff some krazy glue, and start a religion!"- The Reverend Billy Lard
by Gaijin_Suketto on Jan 24, 2010 1:00 PM PST up reply actions
Where are you going? Prison?
Makes sense.
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
come to think of it,
I’ve got a connection in Havana…
All I need is a cigarette boat, and some sort of cover for the business, something away from the action and heat, like a rundown bar in Jacksonville or a sign shop in Sarasota???
"Sniff some krazy glue, and start a religion!"- The Reverend Billy Lard
by Gaijin_Suketto on Jan 24, 2010 3:18 PM PST up reply actions
That'll get me sent to prison, right?
"Sniff some krazy glue, and start a religion!"- The Reverend Billy Lard
by Gaijin_Suketto on Jan 24, 2010 3:18 PM PST up reply actions
Can't be worse than the sign shop.
C’mon, let’s do it. Let’s run drugs.
Sock puppets have never been able to successfully attack castles. -NM
by Leopold Bloom on Jan 24, 2010 8:15 PM PST up reply actions
As much as I hate his decision...
I have nothing but respect for a guy who follows his heart rather than the money. I’m still holding onto some hope that he changes his mind, but I wish him nothing but the best.
This is too bad for the A's
However, imagine how good his parish softball team will be.
Hey Al, just go away, baby.
by doctorK on Jan 22, 2010 1:50 PM PST reply actions 1 recs
I guess it it ultimately his decision
And have to respect that.
Kinda pisses me off because he had ability. Had it been Dana Evelend, I would have had God come down personally and escort him off the field.
WE'RE NOT SELLING SCRIPTURE HERE.
They call their best player "Kung Fu Panda" and they complain that people aren’t taking them or the game seriously enough? -Nick
by mikev on Jan 22, 2010 2:24 PM PST reply actions 2 recs
A little more from an interview a few months ago
His career got off to a slow start after the A’s grabbed him in the second round of the 2007 draft. Desme totaled only 49 at-bats in his first two seasons due to a succession of injuries (wrist surgery and a shoulder separation), with only three trips to the plate in a lost 2008 campaign.
Desme doesn’t feel that last year was a total loss. He believes that the time away from the game helped him grow as a person.
“I’m very thankful it happened to me,” said Desme, in reference to the separated shoulder that sidelined him for most of 2008. “I think it needed to be. As a person, baseball was really the one and only thing in my life. With the injuries, it kind of put everything in perspective. There are much bigger things in life. Baseball could be taken from you at any moment . . . You step on the field and that could be your last game. There are a lot of other things that matter more . . . baseball’s just a game.”
Looks like he’s been thinking about this quite a bit.
Last of the Ninth - Photography
by Flashfire on Jan 22, 2010 2:29 PM PST reply actions 1 recs
I knew his being injury-prone would come back to haunt the team...
"We've come a long way, and I'm not talking about Virginia Slims, either." - Art Howe
I'm really bummed
But I respect the decision.
Just wish he would have tried to do both… doesn’t seem like it would have been that hard, but he seems to want to give all his time and effort to this.
He will be a great example to those with faith, but I think he might have been a better example if he did this after finishing his baseball career.
I was really looking forward to following him this season and continuing the debates over his potential. Since we won’t ever know what would have happened, I’ll just assume I was right : )
I'm guessing if he wants to be a priest it'd be tough to give sermons while playing baseball games at home or on the road
Last of the Ninth - Photography
Who was the pitcher who wouldn't pitch on Sundays and Holy days?
I suspect that you think tilting at windmills means something other than what it does.
OT, but it's on my TV
I wonder how good a baseball player Rafa Nadal would have been? Pace, power, hand-eye coordination…
I suspect that you think tilting at windmills means something other than what it does.
More specifics:
Desme to enter St. Michael’s Abbey, a Catholic seminary in Orange County, in August. He faces a 10-year path to becoming priest.
Bring back Hammer.
So, he's moving from the minors into the priesthood
I suspect that you think tilting at windmills means something other than what it does.
10 years?
wow, that’s a long time. I guess if he tried to that and baseball at the same time it would have taken him 20 years.
You have to include smiley faces - Poppy
;- ) :- ) :-O : -> : -] : -}
I really wish these fucking cryptic shortcut URLs would go away.
I’d like to know what the hell I’m clicking on before I decide whether or not I should.
They call their best player "Kung Fu Panda" and they complain that people aren’t taking them or the game seriously enough? -Nick
My bad.
Should have mentioned that it was from his college paper.
wow
was that the same Grant Desme or someone else with the same name?
You have to include smiley faces - Poppy
;- ) :- ) :-O : -> : -] : -}
I like nqiep when it's hawky or eagly, but not owly.
There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, Than are dreamt of in your philosophy.
by iglew on Jan 22, 2010 3:17 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
If this piece is anything to go on,
I don’t like nqlep no matter what kind of bird it’s like.
Shawn Spencer: "I’m receiving a transmission from your husband. Really more of a voicemail, if I'm being honest. A status update. Perhaps a twitter."
Burton Guster: "I believe it’s called a tweet."
Shawn Spencer: "There’s no way I’m saying that."
yikes, I really wish I'd never read that
I suspect that you think tilting at windmills means something other than what it does.
by bobnothing on Jan 22, 2010 3:07 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Or rather, that it had never been written, perhaps
I suspect that you think tilting at windmills means something other than what it does.
My thoughts exactly.
It’s disappointing.
Always the summers are slipping away.
Find me a way for making it stay.
Although my guess is that homophobia is pretty rampant in professional sports in the US
even among those who don’t end up going to seminary.
"And Julio Franco is batting right-handed!" -- Wayne Hagin, A's radio play-by-play, mid-80s
by Nick on Jan 22, 2010 3:31 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Not so much of a "guess" as a "known fact"
Shawn Spencer: "I’m receiving a transmission from your husband. Really more of a voicemail, if I'm being honest. A status update. Perhaps a twitter."
Burton Guster: "I believe it’s called a tweet."
Shawn Spencer: "There’s no way I’m saying that."
We're not close already, cityplANer? I'm hurt.
"And Julio Franco is batting right-handed!" -- Wayne Hagin, A's radio play-by-play, mid-80s
x 2
"Bobby Crosby at third is a bit of an adventure. And not like, here’s some hidden treasure, what fun. More like, gah! poison ants!" --alea iacta est
by baseballgirl on Jan 22, 2010 3:49 PM PST up reply actions
I just read this again
And the first thing that pops into my head whenever someone quotes Leviticus is “Shut the fuck up idiot.”
I know that isn’t nice. And I do have a ton of respect for people with true religious conviction. But really… it just pisses me off to no end to be preached to from a book that includes “any fish from the sea that doesn’t have scales or fins is an abomination.” Anyone who wants to quote that stuff to me can direct their preaching that brick wall across the street and talk until they pass out for all I care.
by jeffro on Jan 22, 2010 3:49 PM PST up reply actions 6 recs
And I think you'd have people on BOTH sides agreeing with you
"Bobby Crosby at third is a bit of an adventure. And not like, here’s some hidden treasure, what fun. More like, gah! poison ants!" --alea iacta est
by baseballgirl on Jan 22, 2010 4:00 PM PST up reply actions
I'm an atheist, but I really don't mind if people believe in a religion.
Of course, this whole Desme thing is sad news, because he’s leaving our favorite team. But as far as relations on a personal level, I’m more than happy to live and let live. But I draw the line when religion is used as an excuse for bigotry.
Always the summers are slipping away.
Find me a way for making it stay.
by danmerqury on Jan 22, 2010 4:03 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
word
Leviticus has TONS of crazy laws that no (and I mean no one) actually observes. To cherry pick verse out of it in order to make your argument is like saying Bobby Crosby is a hall of fame candidate because he won the ROY.
People really don't get the whole Old Testament/New Testament dynamic
m*****f***ing c***s***ing peanut butter and jelly!! f*** f*** f***!!!
they are pretty different animals
What I find most interesting is the historiography and social/political context of when each book was actually written. It can shed some very interesting light on the motivations and purposes behind some of the things that they say. Though to claim they weren’t written at the time they occurred is a non-starter with some folk.
Rorty just wort a book on this IIRC
"Since other people actually read these threads, though, probably best that your particular brand of wrongness not go completely unchallenged." - PT
There are differing opinions on me. According to Iglew "DFA is PT with a sense of humor. PT is DFA with introspective self-doubt. I like them both" but according to sirbed Im "The Stats Killer"
by designatedforassignment on Jan 22, 2010 9:20 PM PST up reply actions
Rorty?
I wonder if you’re thinking of Robert Wright.
There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, Than are dreamt of in your philosophy.
Yes. Thanks.
"Since other people actually read these threads, though, probably best that your particular brand of wrongness not go completely unchallenged." - PT
There are differing opinions on me. According to Iglew "DFA is PT with a sense of humor. PT is DFA with introspective self-doubt. I like them both" but according to sirbed Im "The Stats Killer"
by designatedforassignment on Jan 22, 2010 9:52 PM PST up reply actions
I had that one on my library reserve list for weeks,
but I forgot to put a freeze on it and it came in just a few days after I left town.
There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, Than are dreamt of in your philosophy.
+2
What are we at the park for except to win? I'd trip my mother. I'd help her up, brusher her off, tell her I'm sorry. But mother don't make it to third. ~Leo Durocher
One life I’m gonna live it up
I’m takin’ flight I said I’ll never get enough
Stand tall I’m young and kinda proud
I’m on top as long as the music’s loud
If you think I’ll sit around as the world goes by
You’re thinkin’ like a fool cause it’s a case of do or die
Out there is a fortune waitin’ to be had
You think I’ll let it go you’re mad
You’ve got another thing comin’
That’s right here’s where the talkin’ ends
Well listen this night there’ll be some action spent
Drive hard I’m callin’ all the shots
I got an ace card comin’ down on the rocks
If you think I’ll sit around while you chip away my brain
Listen I ain’t foolin’ and you’d better think again
Out there is a fortune waitin’ to be had
You think I’ll let it go you’re mad
You got another thing comin’
In this world we’re livin’ in we have our share of sorrow
Answer now is don’t give in aim for a new tomorrow
Oh so hot no time to take a rest yeah
Act tough ain’t room for second best
Real strong got me some security
Hey I’m a big smash I’m goin’ for infinity yeah
If you think I’ll sit around as the world goes by
You’re thinkin’ like a fool cause it’s a case of do or die
Out there is a fortune waitin’ to be had
You think I’ll let it go you’re mad
You’ve got another thing comin’
What are we at the park for except to win? I'd trip my mother. I'd help her up, brusher her off, tell her I'm sorry. But mother don't make it to third. ~Leo Durocher
Well, it's not every day one can get baseball, the Catholic Priesthood, AND the lyrics to a Judas Priest song all in one thread. LOL!
What are we at the park for except to win? I'd trip my mother. I'd help her up, brusher her off, tell her I'm sorry. But mother don't make it to third. ~Leo Durocher
without getting into specifics
some of the laws in Leviticus are echoed in other parts of the bible, like in the new testament.
You have to include smiley faces - Poppy
;- ) :- ) :-O : -> : -] : -}
I was an altar boy growing up
I understand the Christian take on New Testament v. Old Testament, as in being two parts of the same over arching story. The truth is, when you look at the with a critical eye it is hard to buy in.
To me, that doesn’t take anything away from what is important about Christianity.
actually
I was refering specifically to homosexuality in the bible. but I don’t really want to get into it because it won’t really be about baseball or Desme..
You have to include smiley faces - Poppy
;- ) :- ) :-O : -> : -] : -}
If only Leviticus had been relegated to Apocrypha
and replaced with the Gospel of Thomas….
A boy can dream, can’t he?
by cityplANner on Jan 22, 2010 10:48 PM PST up reply actions
it's almost like trying to reach enlightenment through buddhist
but instead you get to be, you know, jesus.
How awesome would that be?
by cityplANner on Jan 22, 2010 10:54 PM PST up reply actions
a buttload!
There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, Than are dreamt of in your philosophy.
Personally, I think Matthew 15:11 overrules the strictures against homosexuality in the Torah, but that's probably not a common interpretation
"And Julio Franco is batting right-handed!" -- Wayne Hagin, A's radio play-by-play, mid-80s
I feel like I am back at Christ Church in Lemoore, Ca.
Ha. My favorite Bible verse is Matthew 5:9. Matthew is easily my favorite Gospel.
I'm far from an expert on the bible
but the subject is discussed in the 1st chapter of Romans. My Art teacher back in high school told me she didn’t care what Paul said because he had to be blinded by God to get his attention.
You have to include smiley faces - Poppy
;- ) :- ) :-O : -> : -] : -}
I was an altar boy for awhile too.
But that was only because I got suckered into it after one of the priests got some of us into the wargame Axis & Allies.
by LoneStranger on Jan 22, 2010 10:43 PM PST up reply actions
They paid us $5 for regular masses and $10 for funerals
And we got to get out of class. I was so there.
"Do I talk to myself? No, I just remind myself of what I'm trying to do. You know, I never answer myself so how can I be talking to myself?" - Rickey
by cuppingmaster on Jan 22, 2010 10:47 PM PST up reply actions
We never got paid. :(
Well, that’s not true. Our spiritual cup runneth over.
by LoneStranger on Jan 22, 2010 10:53 PM PST up reply actions
I'm willing to bet LB was an altar boy once.
by LoneStranger on Jan 22, 2010 10:54 PM PST up reply actions
I wasn't.
But I did “pretend” on occasion to keep a date….
Sock puppets have never been able to successfully attack castles. -NM
by Leopold Bloom on Jan 22, 2010 10:55 PM PST up reply actions
Plz explain.
I’m sure there’s a good story there.
by LoneStranger on Jan 22, 2010 10:58 PM PST up reply actions
Well, Father Tom had a reputation to uphold...
Sock puppets have never been able to successfully attack castles. -NM
by Leopold Bloom on Jan 22, 2010 10:59 PM PST up reply actions
I was one for a little while in high school
I was actually going to be part of the service when the bishop was visiting the church but I lost track of time playing video games at a friend’s house and forgot about it. I felt so bad about it at the time that I stopped going entirely. The pastor was a pretty good guy, though. If he did anything questionable I never saw it.
Last of the Ninth - Photography
High school?
In my day (shit, I hate myself for using that phrase in an almost non-facetious way), altar boys were younger than that.
I was an altar boy at St. Jarlath’s, in Oakland. The saint no one on Earth has ever heard of.
This was in the 6th-7th grade for me
"Do I talk to myself? No, I just remind myself of what I'm trying to do. You know, I never answer myself so how can I be talking to myself?" - Rickey
by cuppingmaster on Jan 22, 2010 11:18 PM PST up reply actions
Yeah, I think it was my freshman or sophomore year
The funny thing is I was too tall for their robes so they actually let me wear one of the priest’s robes or something.
Last of the Ninth - Photography
I feel you, jeffro
but there are way stupider laws to quote from Leviticus. After all, my orthodox jewish friends who keep strict kosher would probably be none too pleased with that last statement of yours.
I AM LEVITI-CUST!
There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, Than are dreamt of in your philosophy.
That makes it sound like he can fly
which is, sadly, emphatically not the case…
Shawn Spencer: "I’m receiving a transmission from your husband. Really more of a voicemail, if I'm being honest. A status update. Perhaps a twitter."
Burton Guster: "I believe it’s called a tweet."
Shawn Spencer: "There’s no way I’m saying that."
No, it's the baseball talking!
There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, Than are dreamt of in your philosophy.
yeah i know
I regularly read biblical history. I read skeptical opinons, proponents of the God of Abraham and just plain historical takes like “Who Wrote the New Testament.” The Year of Living Biblically is my current read.
It is interesting stuff.
.
http://www.ariel.com.au/jokes/Dr_Laura_and_Leviticus.html
4. When I burn a bull on the altar as a sacrifice, I know it creates a pleasing odor for the Lord – Lev.1:9. The problem is, my neighbors. They claim the odor is not pleasing to them. Should I smite them?
Shawn Spencer: "I’m receiving a transmission from your husband. Really more of a voicemail, if I'm being honest. A status update. Perhaps a twitter."
Burton Guster: "I believe it’s called a tweet."
Shawn Spencer: "There’s no way I’m saying that."
Did...did a Philistine just write Ann Landers?
Sock puppets have never been able to successfully attack castles. -NM
by Leopold Bloom on Jan 22, 2010 10:41 PM PST up reply actions
SOTM (site of the month)
Shawn Spencer: "I’m receiving a transmission from your husband. Really more of a voicemail, if I'm being honest. A status update. Perhaps a twitter."
Burton Guster: "I believe it’s called a tweet."
Shawn Spencer: "There’s no way I’m saying that."
I didn't know you were into SOTM-y
They call their best player "Kung Fu Panda" and they complain that people aren’t taking them or the game seriously enough? -Nick
It's also worth noting that bacon,
though he be cloven-footed, yet he cheweth not the cud.
There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, Than are dreamt of in your philosophy.
This is why I'm pissed off about this
I already basically assume that I’m going to hate any athlete’s personal beliefs if I’m somehow exposed to them. There are a few exceptions, but by and large it’s a good rule of thumb. So their only use to me is as employees of teams that I like.
So if one of them quits in order to go pursue personal preferences, it’s like a double whammy. (I’ve never heard of an athlete quitting sports to go become a social worker or advocate for foster children.) They stop doing something I’d like them to do and, virtually without fail, start doing something I really would NOT like them to do.
Really, this is just confirming what I already suspected.
Shawn Spencer: "I’m receiving a transmission from your husband. Really more of a voicemail, if I'm being honest. A status update. Perhaps a twitter."
Burton Guster: "I believe it’s called a tweet."
Shawn Spencer: "There’s no way I’m saying that."
by PaulThomas on Jan 22, 2010 4:23 PM PST up reply actions 2 recs
Not sure if this fits, but here goes.
I had the ability to pursue professional golf in my late teens. Maybe not the PGA, but good enough to be a club pro, make some money and a career. I chucked that and went into teaching high school. Of course, maybe you don’t consider golfers as athletes. Or maybe teaching lacks true altruism.
JJ Martin
The best way to catch a knuckleball is to wait until the ball stops rolling and then pick it up. ~Bob Uecker
Yeah, I'm actually overgeneralizing for the purposes of pithiness
There’s actually a strong correlation between what sport someone plays and their political/economic worldview. Olympic athletes, for instance, are much further to the left than American football or baseball players. (And none of this really applies to amateur athletes, who are so much broader of a spectrum of the population that any generalization would be silly.)
Maybe that’s why I like the Olympics so much compared to most people— I actually feel like I’m personally happy about particular athletes winning or doing well, instead of just being sort of ra-ra for laundry.
Shawn Spencer: "I’m receiving a transmission from your husband. Really more of a voicemail, if I'm being honest. A status update. Perhaps a twitter."
Burton Guster: "I believe it’s called a tweet."
Shawn Spencer: "There’s no way I’m saying that."
That's refreshing to hear you root for Olympians as individuals...
so many people treat the Olympics as the ultimate Laundry-fest and mostly ignore the individuals…
"Sniff some krazy glue, and start a religion!"- The Reverend Billy Lard
by Gaijin_Suketto on Jan 24, 2010 10:20 AM PST up reply actions
This is exactly how i feel.
"Since other people actually read these threads, though, probably best that your particular brand of wrongness not go completely unchallenged." - PT
There are differing opinions on me. According to Iglew "DFA is PT with a sense of humor. PT is DFA with introspective self-doubt. I like them both" but according to sirbed Im "The Stats Killer"
by designatedforassignment on Jan 22, 2010 9:23 PM PST up reply actions
Well Im glad that hes not going to be an A now.
"Since other people actually read these threads, though, probably best that your particular brand of wrongness not go completely unchallenged." - PT
There are differing opinions on me. According to Iglew "DFA is PT with a sense of humor. PT is DFA with introspective self-doubt. I like them both" but according to sirbed Im "The Stats Killer"
by designatedforassignment on Jan 22, 2010 9:18 PM PST up reply actions
pretty sure there are hundreds of other players
who feel the same way…you just haven’t read about it.
this reply could really go to any of the posts, though. not saying it’s right or wrong, but the tone in the thread went from too bad, we are going to miss him, to oh well he believes homosexuality is wrong so we didn’t want him here anyway.
don’t get me wrong though, i’m not condemning anyone, but it surely is interesting.
"If you hit .440 with 20 bombs, you don't have to do s---. You don't have to bring a glove to practice, just hit and leave whenever you want. You can bring a 40 and smoke a cigarette and call me from the parking lot asking me what time the game is, and I'll tell you. You can even say 'F--- you, Steve!' Actually, don't say that, that wouldn't be very nice." -Steve Friend, Head Coach, Chabot College Gladiators Baseball
Most of the players I haven't read about don't publish screeds or leave the game to go preach homophobia
big big difference
"Since other people actually read these threads, though, probably best that your particular brand of wrongness not go completely unchallenged." - PT
There are differing opinions on me. According to Iglew "DFA is PT with a sense of humor. PT is DFA with introspective self-doubt. I like them both" but according to sirbed Im "The Stats Killer"
by designatedforassignment on Jan 23, 2010 11:59 AM PST up reply actions
sure
but who’s to say they won’t begin to?
i don’t know where i’m going with this, but it just seems strange that there are two sides to the religion debate and no problems with being athiest (disclaimer: i am moderate at best currently on religion…sometimes you have to question why when your mom has a brain tumor out of nowhere), but you aren’t allowed to disagree with homosexuality.
another disclaimer: i don’t really care too much one way or the other about homosexuality. i don’t want to have to qualify it, but i’m sure i probably have to so i don’t sound bigoted…yes i have gay friends, yes i had a gay roommate last year at school.
just seemed like something to point out. this thread is ridiculous enough, so i’ll stop.
"If you hit .440 with 20 bombs, you don't have to do s---. You don't have to bring a glove to practice, just hit and leave whenever you want. You can bring a 40 and smoke a cigarette and call me from the parking lot asking me what time the game is, and I'll tell you. You can even say 'F--- you, Steve!' Actually, don't say that, that wouldn't be very nice." -Steve Friend, Head Coach, Chabot College Gladiators Baseball
There are many more than two sides...
Where the hell does a Buddhist/Satanist transvestite anarchist fit in?
Not on any bloody side you can flip on a coin, that’s for damn sure!
"Sniff some krazy glue, and start a religion!"- The Reverend Billy Lard
by Gaijin_Suketto on Jan 24, 2010 10:21 AM PST up reply actions
Oh, I don't know.
Sounds to me like you’d do just fine on tails.
There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, Than are dreamt of in your philosophy.
I was thinking maybe one of the side "ribs"
"Sniff some krazy glue, and start a religion!"- The Reverend Billy Lard
by Gaijin_Suketto on Jan 24, 2010 1:01 PM PST up reply actions
and I wasn't too serious on the description
I don’t believe in “isms”
"Sniff some krazy glue, and start a religion!"- The Reverend Billy Lard
by Gaijin_Suketto on Jan 24, 2010 1:02 PM PST up reply actions
second time happened to the A's
I can’t remember the prospect name but back in the early 90s one of their high draft picks started hitting very well in AA but decided to become a minister which I do believe was a jehovah witness. So this is the second time it happening to the A’s.
Desme seems to be one of those religious nutjobs
10 year process, How about he could have waited 3 or 4 more years. At least until Rashun Dixon was ready to take over
9custs likes this (thumbs up symbol)
"They (The 1989 A's) are the best team I ever saw"- Mike Krukow
I'm surprised there are so many comments in this thread
No really, I read it this morning with about 10 comments, and then flipped back now to nearly 400 comments. Really? Everyone is this worked up about someone else making a decision that affects their own life and affects none of ours?
I see students every day that are torn between what they want to do and what their friends/family/neighbors/the media/random people on the street want them to do. I tell them that they ultimately have to make that decision for themselves, since it’s their life that they are living, not anyone else’s. And no matter what the decision, they can always change their mind in a year or two or ten if it doesn’t work. But at least they would have tried it, and figured out if it was the right fit.
So, Desme tried baseball. He did quite well. But clearly, baseball isn’t what he was happiest doing, it’s not what he was passionate about. Why keep doing it then? Because he’ll make lots of money? Because he’ll be famous someday? Because the fans say he should? Shouldn’t what he wants to do be taken into account?
Who are we to say that he should keep playing baseball over what will truly make him happy? He gave it a shot, and he decided that this wasn’t what he wanted to be doing.
There's no crying in baseball!
by gigglingone on Jan 22, 2010 3:21 PM PST reply actions 4 recs
Who's worked up?
And WTF else is there to talk about?
They call their best player "Kung Fu Panda" and they complain that people aren’t taking them or the game seriously enough? -Nick
Agreed.
For all the talk, I haven’t seen anything here I would characterize as angry or hateful.
There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, Than are dreamt of in your philosophy.
I didn't say angry or hateful
I’m just surprised at the comments saying they were disappointed or called him nuts or are more concerned with the draft compensation or want him to postpone the priesthood so that he can play baseball.
But you’re right mikev, it’s January, so there’s not a lot else to have 400 comments on…
There's no crying in baseball!
That's because you likely agree with the anti-religious sentiment
I admit, most people are pretty reasonable right now. But that’s not stopping people from taking jabs at religious people (or religion in general). It’s not that I have a problem with people making these comments—it’s that I’m prohibited by the community guidelines to give a rebuttal. But CGs aren’t keeping anyone from tiptoeing across that line from the other side.
m*****f***ing c***s***ing peanut butter and jelly!! f*** f*** f***!!!
by JediLeroy on Jan 22, 2010 3:44 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
I agree with the anti-religious sentiment??
I guess you missed some of the previous threads if you think that.
There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, Than are dreamt of in your philosophy.
Sorry if I mischaracterized you.
I agree with what Joey C. says below.
m*****f***ing c***s***ing peanut butter and jelly!! f*** f*** f***!!!
Calling the man an "idiot" qualifies as angry, I'd say
"Smokey, this be not the foul jungles of the darkest East Orient. This be ninepins. We are bound by laws."
Yeah, I was a bit uncomfortable with that
there’s a jump between ‘I think this is a silly decision’ and ‘this man is an idiot’.
but perhaps this is just the internets
I suspect that you think tilting at windmills means something other than what it does.
Tell me more about these internets.
"In fact, it is pretty widely acknowledged that people who don’t are up to 50% less intelligent than those who do." Chilango, in "the God thread"
by LongLiveLangerhans on Jan 22, 2010 5:37 PM PST up reply actions
I wouldn't.
but that’s just me.
They call their best player "Kung Fu Panda" and they complain that people aren’t taking them or the game seriously enough? -Nick
I don't think a lot of people are really upset...
Just responding to the plethora of religious based puns and jokes.
The monster at the end of this blog.
And there are many!
It’s like QOTM: God edition
"Bobby Crosby at third is a bit of an adventure. And not like, here’s some hidden treasure, what fun. More like, gah! poison ants!" --alea iacta est
by baseballgirl on Jan 22, 2010 3:57 PM PST up reply actions
Be careful, BGG.
The more you create a culture of cavalierly calling out “QOTM” at the slightest provocation, the more excess crap you’re going to have to sift through at the end of the month when you do your search.
There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, Than are dreamt of in your philosophy.
Ha ha!!!! QOTM!
Only not.
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
I see your point. I need a new code for REAL ones ;-)
"Bobby Crosby at third is a bit of an adventure. And not like, here’s some hidden treasure, what fun. More like, gah! poison ants!" --alea iacta est
by baseballgirl on Jan 22, 2010 8:54 PM PST up reply actions
I think this entire thread needs to be set aside
as a special case, not to be seen as creating precedents for behavior elsewhere on AN.
There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, Than are dreamt of in your philosophy.
I blame Grant Desme
"Bobby Crosby at third is a bit of an adventure. And not like, here’s some hidden treasure, what fun. More like, gah! poison ants!" --alea iacta est
by baseballgirl on Jan 22, 2010 9:08 PM PST up reply actions
Seriously,
for most of the afternoon this thread has teetered on the edge of CGV disaster, with lots of comments stepping well over the line but still maintaining admirable decorum and good humor in spite of it.
Now — probably as a result of some people getting home from work and reading all 500+ comments of it at once — it has been forcefully shoved over the edge and has splattered on the rocks below.
There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, Than are dreamt of in your philosophy.
All in all,
I think people have shown remarkable restraint in this discussion, which was kind of forced into religion from baseball. I really have seen some calm arguments and productive statements from people from very different belief systems.
"Bobby Crosby at third is a bit of an adventure. And not like, here’s some hidden treasure, what fun. More like, gah! poison ants!" --alea iacta est
by baseballgirl on Jan 22, 2010 9:20 PM PST up reply actions
It is teetering on the edge though ;-)
"Bobby Crosby at third is a bit of an adventure. And not like, here’s some hidden treasure, what fun. More like, gah! poison ants!" --alea iacta est
by baseballgirl on Jan 22, 2010 9:20 PM PST up reply actions
I'm pretty sure it's my fault
After all, it is January and Leopold Bloom has been predicting it for a while.
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
Most things are your fault, you know
Or LB’s.
Really, it’s sort of like the ancient Greek theology. The arbitrary and capricious gods were responsible for enough pain that humans were to some extent relieved of taking on what would have been an unbearable burden of responsibility for shit happening. You guys are pretty nearly divine!
the only thing I'm responsible for is
burning this sign shop to the ground.
You fuckers are my alibi. Any of you squeal, I shank you.
Sock puppets have never been able to successfully attack castles. -NM
by Leopold Bloom on Jan 22, 2010 9:50 PM PST up reply actions
Naah, it's gone.
I think the combination of Faustus and DFA is what pushed it over the edge. But only because we had built up such a precarious tower before they got here, so I don’t hold them to blame.
There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, Than are dreamt of in your philosophy.
What did I do?
"Since other people actually read these threads, though, probably best that your particular brand of wrongness not go completely unchallenged." - PT
There are differing opinions on me. According to Iglew "DFA is PT with a sense of humor. PT is DFA with introspective self-doubt. I like them both" but according to sirbed Im "The Stats Killer"
by designatedforassignment on Jan 22, 2010 9:54 PM PST up reply actions
TY?????
"Since other people actually read these threads, though, probably best that your particular brand of wrongness not go completely unchallenged." - PT
There are differing opinions on me. According to Iglew "DFA is PT with a sense of humor. PT is DFA with introspective self-doubt. I like them both" but according to sirbed Im "The Stats Killer"
by designatedforassignment on Jan 22, 2010 10:03 PM PST up reply actions
"Oh you know what you did, young man!"
Would I make a good mom or what?
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
I just really don't think Ive made any particularly anti religious or offensive comments.
"Since other people actually read these threads, though, probably best that your particular brand of wrongness not go completely unchallenged." - PT
There are differing opinions on me. According to Iglew "DFA is PT with a sense of humor. PT is DFA with introspective self-doubt. I like them both" but according to sirbed Im "The Stats Killer"
by designatedforassignment on Jan 22, 2010 10:04 PM PST up reply actions
You, like me,
have a remarkable ability to draw ire out of people even without making any particularly hostile or offensive comments…
Shawn Spencer: "I’m receiving a transmission from your husband. Really more of a voicemail, if I'm being honest. A status update. Perhaps a twitter."
Burton Guster: "I believe it’s called a tweet."
Shawn Spencer: "There’s no way I’m saying that."
It's really quite amazing....
when you’re an impartial observer, isn’t it?
"You may glory in a team triumphant, but you fall in love with a team in defeat."--The Boys of Summer
You're right
I’ve been slogging through it for hours. Who knows what will happen when I reach the bottom of the thread, and finally circle round to comments made on my own comments? I’m looking forward to it. It’s Friday, who needs sleep (even if I do need to plan my move out of Baltimore after 20-something years, damn I wish I could procrastinate long enough to take in a final game at Camden Yards).
balmer
Sock puppets have never been able to successfully attack castles. -NM
by Leopold Bloom on Jan 22, 2010 9:46 PM PST up reply actions
Heart-filled, head-filled with glee.
(I actually have one of his Christopher Cat books out from the library right now.)
There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, Than are dreamt of in your philosophy.
BBG, I don't want to be a jerk, but...
creating a QOTM document out of quotes marked “QOTM” just doesn’t cut it.
Creating a good QOTM post involves carefully re-reading every single post and story from the previous month. It takes a butt/shit/fuckload of time and effort.
If you’re already in this process, then I will happily defer to you and send you my document of QOTM from 1/1 to 1/8, for you to compare/contrast..
However, if you were just going to search/compile quotes that someone replied “QOTM” to, then leave next month’s QOTM to me, because I’ve already put too much work into it to give up now.
"Sniff some krazy glue, and start a religion!"- The Reverend Billy Lard
by Gaijin_Suketto on Jan 24, 2010 10:31 AM PST up reply actions
We're "this worked up" about it because this is an Oakland A's blog and he just made the Oakland A's worse at baseball.
Shawn Spencer: "I’m receiving a transmission from your husband. Really more of a voicemail, if I'm being honest. A status update. Perhaps a twitter."
Burton Guster: "I believe it’s called a tweet."
Shawn Spencer: "There’s no way I’m saying that."
by PaulThomas on Jan 22, 2010 4:25 PM PST up reply actions 3 recs
This is a good point.
People are obviously free to do what makes them happy, but to come to an A’s blog and expect A’s fans to be ho-hum about it is crazy.
No one knows if he would’ve become an MLB regular. History tells us that he probably wouldn’t have… but after the season he put together last year, I’m sure everyone wishes he was still playing in the A’s system… including me.
"I'm not going to buy my kids an encyclopedia. Let them walk to school like I did." -Yogi Berra
Or that we'd traded him 3 days ago for someone who still is!
"And Julio Franco is batting right-handed!" -- Wayne Hagin, A's radio play-by-play, mid-80s
I mean, not saying it's the end of the world
Hell, from a personal standpoint, I wasn’t even particularly high on the guy. I thought he had a very large bust risk and not as high an upside as many here thought.
But, as someone said, it’s not like there’s anything else to talk about.
Shawn Spencer: "I’m receiving a transmission from your husband. Really more of a voicemail, if I'm being honest. A status update. Perhaps a twitter."
Burton Guster: "I believe it’s called a tweet."
Shawn Spencer: "There’s no way I’m saying that."
Bacon is not something that needs to be talked about
It exists. And it is good.
Amen.
Shawn Spencer: "I’m receiving a transmission from your husband. Really more of a voicemail, if I'm being honest. A status update. Perhaps a twitter."
Burton Guster: "I believe it’s called a tweet."
Shawn Spencer: "There’s no way I’m saying that."
Yea, and the Lord did bring forth the bacon.
and did fryeth it up in a pan.
Then the Lord did bad, bad things. Unspeakable things, really.
Sock puppets have never been able to successfully attack castles. -NM
by Leopold Bloom on Jan 22, 2010 9:35 PM PST up reply actions
Jesus touched me inappropriately.
I’m just sayin.
Sock puppets have never been able to successfully attack castles. -NM
by Leopold Bloom on Jan 22, 2010 9:38 PM PST up reply actions
yup.
Sock puppets have never been able to successfully attack castles. -NM
by Leopold Bloom on Jan 22, 2010 9:42 PM PST up reply actions
Not the way I heard it, but whatever...
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
Funny how you left out the "I"
Was that a Freudian slap? Ha ha, I mean “slip”! No. No I don’t.
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
I will -- in one week and one day
fANfest!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
`
Did I say the Mormon one was the best episode ever? My mistake.
There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, Than are dreamt of in your philosophy.
I wanna feel his sweet love all over my face...
"Sniff some krazy glue, and start a religion!"- The Reverend Billy Lard
by Gaijin_Suketto on Jan 24, 2010 10:32 AM PST up reply actions
Dude.
His salvation.
That’s the best part of the lyric, and you bungled it.
There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, Than are dreamt of in your philosophy.
screw you guys, I'm going home.
"Sniff some krazy glue, and start a religion!"- The Reverend Billy Lard
by Gaijin_Suketto on Jan 24, 2010 1:02 PM PST up reply actions
Wait, does that mean you are made of bacon?
"Since other people actually read these threads, though, probably best that your particular brand of wrongness not go completely unchallenged." - PT
There are differing opinions on me. According to Iglew "DFA is PT with a sense of humor. PT is DFA with introspective self-doubt. I like them both" but according to sirbed Im "The Stats Killer"
by designatedforassignment on Jan 22, 2010 9:56 PM PST up reply actions
bacon-like substance.
with added filler.
Sock puppets have never been able to successfully attack castles. -NM
by Leopold Bloom on Jan 22, 2010 9:56 PM PST up reply actions
Facon?
"Since other people actually read these threads, though, probably best that your particular brand of wrongness not go completely unchallenged." - PT
There are differing opinions on me. According to Iglew "DFA is PT with a sense of humor. PT is DFA with introspective self-doubt. I like them both" but according to sirbed Im "The Stats Killer"
by designatedforassignment on Jan 22, 2010 10:04 PM PST up reply actions
exactly.
Sock puppets have never been able to successfully attack castles. -NM
by Leopold Bloom on Jan 22, 2010 10:06 PM PST up reply actions
Facon is an abomination.
"Since other people actually read these threads, though, probably best that your particular brand of wrongness not go completely unchallenged." - PT
There are differing opinions on me. According to Iglew "DFA is PT with a sense of humor. PT is DFA with introspective self-doubt. I like them both" but according to sirbed Im "The Stats Killer"
by designatedforassignment on Jan 22, 2010 10:10 PM PST up reply actions
strange.
I’m an abomination!
Sock puppets have never been able to successfully attack castles. -NM
by Leopold Bloom on Jan 22, 2010 10:10 PM PST up reply actions
not if you cover it in
BACON SALT
100% kosher!
by cityplANner on Jan 22, 2010 10:43 PM PST up reply actions
wait. kosher?
Sock puppets have never been able to successfully attack castles. -NM
by Leopold Bloom on Jan 22, 2010 10:46 PM PST up reply actions
100%
I got it for an orthodox jewish friend of mine for a birthday and she actually cried tears of happiness after opening the wrapping.
by cityplANner on Jan 22, 2010 10:50 PM PST up reply actions
there's something inherently
evil about Jewish people’s love for bacon/ham and their religion denying it.
I smell a thesis.
Sock puppets have never been able to successfully attack castles. -NM
by Leopold Bloom on Jan 22, 2010 10:52 PM PST up reply actions
I smell dreadfully inappropriate behavior with an adopted daughter.
Sock puppets have never been able to successfully attack castles. -NM
by Leopold Bloom on Jan 22, 2010 10:54 PM PST up reply actions
If I oppose bacon as part of the fetishization of meat that helps to oppress the working poor
will I be flagged? I won’t bring it up, if that’s the case
I suspect that you think tilting at windmills means something other than what it does.
It's just weird to think that
we’ll never know what Desme can do with the stick. Of course that only affects the women.
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
I guess if someone's going to quit the sport I'd rather it come at this point opposed to when...
…he’s up in the Majors and actually, really helping the team.
Last of the Ninth - Photography
It's not clear that he isn't happy playing baseball
so much as he felt an unusual pull towards the church. Which is what makes me scratch my head even harder.
"Do I talk to myself? No, I just remind myself of what I'm trying to do. You know, I never answer myself so how can I be talking to myself?" - Rickey
by cuppingmaster on Jan 22, 2010 6:57 PM PST up reply actions
Reading his article
makes me wonder if he has less of a pull to the church and more of a fear of going to hell.
"Sniff some krazy glue, and start a religion!"- The Reverend Billy Lard
by Gaijin_Suketto on Jan 24, 2010 10:39 AM PST up reply actions
This is a religious theme day,lets resurrect Jesus.
Jesus Guzman DFA’d by the Giants. A’s have a free 40 man roster spot.
Slusser update
Desme, the Arizona Fall League MVP, said he has been considering becoming a priest for a year and a half, but he had decided to play last season as almost a test of sorts. His sensational season of Class-A ball, and his fine Fall League, convinced him all the more that he must follow his calling to the church.
“I’m doing well in baseball,” he said. "But I had to get down to the bottom of things, to what was good in my life, what I wanted to do with my life. Baseball is a good thing, but that felt selfish of me when I felt that God was calling me more. It took awhile to trust that and open up to it and aim full steam toward him.
“I love the game, but I’m going to aspire to higher things.”
Read more: http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/blogs/athletics/detail?entry_id=55846#ixzz0dO3GniuY
by MagicMike23 on Jan 22, 2010 3:30 PM PST reply actions 1 recs
That is, of course, not to say
"I love the game, but I’m going to aspire to higher things."
that anyone who feels called to play baseball isn’t doing what they should do with their life, also. He chose to do something different—not better, just different—with his life. And I have no problem with that.
But it bothers me a little (and I fall on the religious side!), that he implies that his life plan is higher (read: better) than playing baseball. That’s not fair to people who truly feel blessed and chosen (and that they have a God-given talent, perhaps) to play baseball.
"Bobby Crosby at third is a bit of an adventure. And not like, here’s some hidden treasure, what fun. More like, gah! poison ants!" --alea iacta est
Reply fail
"Bobby Crosby at third is a bit of an adventure. And not like, here’s some hidden treasure, what fun. More like, gah! poison ants!" --alea iacta est
by baseballgirl on Jan 22, 2010 3:55 PM PST up reply actions
There is still a glut of outfielders
Depending if one expects Doolittle, Carter,or even Fox to spend some time in the corner OF. Add in Buck, Patterson, Sulentic, Peterson for depth. Maybe false hope that Jermaine Mitchell who has plus qualities in defense and athleticism, can catch up with his hitting.
From a baseball perspective, this has to be disappointing for the A's
- overall in BA’s top 10, Goldstein (4 star prospect) and Sickles (Grade B) #4 overall on their prospect lists.
Some projected him as their starting CF maybe in mid-late 2011.
No one could argue that he was their 2009 breakout prospect.
I would think with Desme around, that made the decision to trade cunningham, hairston, and spencer a bit more tolerable.
If there is a positive side, this pushes a corey brown’s expectations a bit higher. Or keeping a Rajai Davis or even Coco Crisp for 2011. Shane Peterson might be their only other CF option in the upper minors after Brown.
Reminds me a story I heard on NPR years ago...
It was regarding a novel that was popular in North Korea about a musician who gave up his dream of becoming a musician, instead choosing the nobler path of a sculptor who made propaganda statues. It was hailed as an inspirational story in North Korea, but was scene as a tragedy here in the U.S.
by okteds on Jan 22, 2010 4:49 PM PST reply actions 1 recs
Based on most comments, this board is very white...
…http://stuffwhitepeoplelike.com/
At least, I’m willing to bet most people rate high on the white scale according to the book.
Gas to Chicago- $23.87 A's/White Sox Tix- $28 Watching the A's whipping the Sox in July 05'- Priceless
cool story bro
They call their best player "Kung Fu Panda" and they complain that people aren’t taking them or the game seriously enough? -Nick
I came out surprisingly unwhite on that.
When they were at 100, I went through the top 100 and found only two things I really like and four that I sort of like.
Even though I really am 50% white.
(I did notice a whole lot of pop culture type things on that list that are extremely popular here on AN which to me are either completely unfamiliar or mildly annoying.)
There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, Than are dreamt of in your philosophy.
yeah, but you're a contrarian.
Sock puppets have never been able to successfully attack castles. -NM
by Leopold Bloom on Jan 22, 2010 8:54 PM PST up reply actions
True.
I just skimmed #101 to present and found two more that I like, so maybe I’m getting whiter.
There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, Than are dreamt of in your philosophy.
as long as one of them isn't the Red Sox
"Do I talk to myself? No, I just remind myself of what I'm trying to do. You know, I never answer myself so how can I be talking to myself?" - Rickey
by cuppingmaster on Jan 22, 2010 9:13 PM PST up reply actions
you've got tribal land, right, doctor?
"Sniff some krazy glue, and start a religion!"- The Reverend Billy Lard
by Gaijin_Suketto on Jan 24, 2010 10:41 AM PST up reply actions
I've been in court all day, so this is the first I've seen this
And it sounds like everything that’s to be said about this topic has already been said.
Like that’s ever stopped me.
Good for him. Kinda sucks for the A’s, but that’s beside the point. Whatever your personal feelings about religion, he’s pursuing something that’s important to him. A career in baseball is not objectively better than that. It’s a career. Playing a game for entertainment purposes. If he’d rather interact with people in a different way, that’s his decision.
I can understand being disappointed as a fan. I can’t understand calling someone stupid for choosing something over baseball.
"Smokey, this be not the foul jungles of the darkest East Orient. This be ninepins. We are bound by laws."
by Joey C. on Jan 22, 2010 5:23 PM PST reply actions 1 recs
agree, he (and every other player and prospect) have the right to change their career trajectories
I am curious about something, though.
Desme was drafted in the second round in 2007, and the A’s paid him a signing bonus of $432,000. Do signing bonuses have any conditions as far as commitments to play for a specific number of years?
As someone who is agnostically athiest...
There are so many things I want to shout at Grant. But you gotta respect the man for doing what he feels is right…
"They (The 1989 A's) are the best team I ever saw"- Mike Krukow
I prefer to save my respect for people
who don’t chastise homosexuals for being homosexuals. But he’s welcome to become a priest, where he probably won’t strike out as much.
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
That whole LTTE made me cringe
It’s one thing to not agree with homosexuality, but another to try and foist those views on others. Then again, I suppose that is catholicism in a nutshell.
"Do I talk to myself? No, I just remind myself of what I'm trying to do. You know, I never answer myself so how can I be talking to myself?" - Rickey
by cuppingmaster on Jan 22, 2010 7:02 PM PST up reply actions
I'm not even putting religion into the conversation
I just don’t care for prejudice, period.
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
by Nico on Jan 22, 2010 7:07 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
"I just don’t care for prejudice, period."
holla
"They (The 1989 A's) are the best team I ever saw"- Mike Krukow
well, it is the quickest way up the mountain.
Sock puppets have never been able to successfully attack castles. -NM
by Leopold Bloom on Jan 22, 2010 8:34 PM PST up reply actions
No. I'm just not going to throw a parade
for Grant Desme for going into the priesthood. Best of luck in your new career, and I’ll never think about you again because you no longer play for the A’s and as a person I don’t really give a rat’s ass about you.
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
So you're saying you're not Dave Kingman, and he's not Susan Fornoff?
"And Julio Franco is batting right-handed!" -- Wayne Hagin, A's radio play-by-play, mid-80s
excellent
(iswydt)
There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, Than are dreamt of in your philosophy.
Susan Fornoff had a hard row to hoe...
And she did an okay job.
I don’t think she should have dated players, though… But who am I to judge?
"Sniff some krazy glue, and start a religion!"- The Reverend Billy Lard
by Gaijin_Suketto on Jan 24, 2010 10:47 AM PST up reply actions
Actually,
No. But Nico’s response was, in that he made an assumption that was, inherently, both disrespectful and predjudiced. Unbelievable..
how?
I think he’s right that most catholics (not all, mind you) think homosexuality is some sort of sin AND think homosexuality is a choice of lifestyle. anyone who thinks that, i ask you: why would you chose to leade a much more difficult life?
"They (The 1989 A's) are the best team I ever saw"- Mike Krukow
Aha, so that explains it.
Wait, did we just go there? Oh yes we did.
There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, Than are dreamt of in your philosophy.
DId you read Desme's LTE from college?
Nico isn’t assuming he was a homophobe. Desme comes right out, quotes Leviticus, and says it proudly.
"And Julio Franco is batting right-handed!" -- Wayne Hagin, A's radio play-by-play, mid-80s
I absolutely don't agree with it.
Homophobia (or any kind of discrimination) is not my thing. I have a gay husband, after all, and was raised a Catholic. But to condemn anybody for their beliefs, whether right or wrong, is discriminating.
We have no right to judge. We don’t know what’s true or not! This is a very emotional subject that can only be decided from within. We shouldn’t be doing it here.
In case you aren't clear on this,
I’m not assuming Desme is anti-gay because he’s Catholic. I’m assuming it because he says so in a college paper.
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
Yes, actually.
It’s only since then that I’ve forgotten most of it.
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
Oh so being a homophobe is ok if you are in college?
good to know.
"Since other people actually read these threads, though, probably best that your particular brand of wrongness not go completely unchallenged." - PT
There are differing opinions on me. According to Iglew "DFA is PT with a sense of humor. PT is DFA with introspective self-doubt. I like them both" but according to sirbed Im "The Stats Killer"
by designatedforassignment on Jan 22, 2010 9:39 PM PST up reply actions
Im younger than Desme and I take full responsibility for shit I send to newspapers to publish.
"Since other people actually read these threads, though, probably best that your particular brand of wrongness not go completely unchallenged." - PT
There are differing opinions on me. According to Iglew "DFA is PT with a sense of humor. PT is DFA with introspective self-doubt. I like them both" but according to sirbed Im "The Stats Killer"
by designatedforassignment on Jan 22, 2010 9:57 PM PST up reply actions
your anecdotal evidence has shamed her.
now stop.
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by Leopold Bloom on Jan 22, 2010 9:59 PM PST up reply actions
I can defend myself.
It can take more than a lifetime to tear down the walls it took a life time to build.
pardon me, madame.
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by Leopold Bloom on Jan 22, 2010 10:09 PM PST up reply actions
chivalry is dead.
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by Leopold Bloom on Jan 22, 2010 10:12 PM PST up reply actions
:: blinks ::
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by Leopold Bloom on Jan 22, 2010 10:18 PM PST up reply actions
Im not saying that everything ive done im proud of.
but Im not going to publish bigotry and claim youthful indiscretions, thats for old people like Henry Hyde to do :-P
I hope he has changed his mind but the evidence we have suggests otherwise.
"Since other people actually read these threads, though, probably best that your particular brand of wrongness not go completely unchallenged." - PT
There are differing opinions on me. According to Iglew "DFA is PT with a sense of humor. PT is DFA with introspective self-doubt. I like them both" but according to sirbed Im "The Stats Killer"
by designatedforassignment on Jan 22, 2010 10:06 PM PST up reply actions
Background isn't an excuse for being a bigot.
Desme’s bigotry leads to people getting killed. Its not ok.
"Since other people actually read these threads, though, probably best that your particular brand of wrongness not go completely unchallenged." - PT
There are differing opinions on me. According to Iglew "DFA is PT with a sense of humor. PT is DFA with introspective self-doubt. I like them both" but according to sirbed Im "The Stats Killer"
by designatedforassignment on Jan 22, 2010 10:11 PM PST up reply actions
you can think something is wrong
without hating it.
You have to include smiley faces - Poppy
;- ) :- ) :-O : -> : -] : -}
Ah, but we don't know yet what
common belief of today will be held as shameful 40 years from now.
There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, Than are dreamt of in your philosophy.
Not actually believing that ANY particular group of people is an abomination
which needs to be killed, “cured” or driven out of society seems like a belief which is fairly immune to critique through this angle.
Unless 40 years from now the LACK of idiotic hatred will be “held as shameful,” in which case, fuck 40 years from now.
Shawn Spencer: "I’m receiving a transmission from your husband. Really more of a voicemail, if I'm being honest. A status update. Perhaps a twitter."
Burton Guster: "I believe it’s called a tweet."
Shawn Spencer: "There’s no way I’m saying that."
It's unlikely I'll be able to
You and DFA, you might still have 40 good years left.
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
Right, but I'm talking about the possibility of
something that none of us are thinking of in this era. You’re citing examples of things that we surely are thinking of.
There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, Than are dreamt of in your philosophy.
Really how much in forty years goes from beyond consciousness to abhorant?
"Since other people actually read these threads, though, probably best that your particular brand of wrongness not go completely unchallenged." - PT
There are differing opinions on me. According to Iglew "DFA is PT with a sense of humor. PT is DFA with introspective self-doubt. I like them both" but according to sirbed Im "The Stats Killer"
by designatedforassignment on Jan 24, 2010 2:54 AM PST up reply actions
I think a more relevant question is
How much in forty years goes from beyond consciousness to acceptability?
My grandmother first learned about homosexuality through game shows.
In the 70’s, she was naive enough to believe that Paul Lynde and Charles Nelson Reilly went home to their wives every night.
In 2004, before she died, she was almost an Elder Fag-Hag with all her old gay friends…
"Sniff some krazy glue, and start a religion!"- The Reverend Billy Lard
by Gaijin_Suketto on Jan 24, 2010 10:54 AM PST up reply actions
Is that what killed her?
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
no, that was 45 years of smoking.
She was an A’s fan, though.
She was also a Cowboys fan, but she had a waiver because she and my grandfather were friends of Roger Staubach from their mutual Navy days.
"Sniff some krazy glue, and start a religion!"- The Reverend Billy Lard
by Gaijin_Suketto on Jan 24, 2010 1:06 PM PST up reply actions
Ah, now I get it
Being an A’s fan killed her.
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
fucking John Jaha.
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by Leopold Bloom on Jan 24, 2010 8:17 PM PST up reply actions
Is this part of your "bucket list"?
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
(cues up Jimmy Kimmel)
I’m f’n John Jaha
then John Jaha says “He’s f’n John Jaha.”
and the song goes on
"Sniff some krazy glue, and start a religion!"- The Reverend Billy Lard
by Gaijin_Suketto on Jan 25, 2010 1:18 PM PST up reply actions
No
For me, I was still in high school when I figured everything out!
The Ultimate Opportunist
by Rated-R Superstar on Jan 22, 2010 9:58 PM PST up reply actions
Oh, R-Star.
We all did that.
There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, Than are dreamt of in your philosophy.
True
I am still in high school and have no idea, actually.
The Ultimate Opportunist
by Rated-R Superstar on Jan 22, 2010 10:01 PM PST up reply actions
And knowing that you have no idea puts you ahead of the people who think they know.
by LoneStranger on Jan 22, 2010 10:23 PM PST up reply actions
And knowing is half the battle.
Or at least that’s what they told me at the stop-being-queer camp.
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by Leopold Bloom on Jan 22, 2010 10:25 PM PST up reply actions
It was remarkably accurate...
…um, or so I’ve heard…
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by Leopold Bloom on Jan 22, 2010 10:32 PM PST up reply actions
I love that movie.
But that might be because I thought the chick was hot….until she let herself go. And also the music. I actually spent a night making an unofficial soundtrack based on songs listed in the credits.
by LoneStranger on Jan 22, 2010 10:35 PM PST up reply actions
she just died, no?
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by Leopold Bloom on Jan 22, 2010 10:35 PM PST up reply actions
Natasha Lyonne?
Not according to IMDB. Are you thinking of Britanny Murphy?
by LoneStranger on Jan 22, 2010 10:39 PM PST up reply actions
yes, I am.
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by Leopold Bloom on Jan 22, 2010 10:39 PM PST up reply actions
I apologize in advance for the very extreme example,
But should we refrain from condemning, say, members of the Westboro Baptist Church? The ones who picket directly outside military funerals and AIDS clinics? Devotion in a belief doesn’t make it anymore right, and society should absolutely condemn those with harmful or bigoted beliefs.
Always the summers are slipping away.
Find me a way for making it stay.
by danmerqury on Jan 22, 2010 9:07 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
well said
Devotion in a belief doesn’t make it anymore right, and society should absolutely condemn those with harmful or bigoted beliefs.
"Do I talk to myself? No, I just remind myself of what I'm trying to do. You know, I never answer myself so how can I be talking to myself?" - Rickey
by cuppingmaster on Jan 22, 2010 9:10 PM PST up reply actions
And yet their right to believe in that
is what we founded this country on.
I’m not saying their right, I’m just saying they have the right to have them.
Until we can find a way to change them, those thoughts will be there.
We founded this country on the right to have bigoted beliefs?
We also founded this country in 1776, and a lot of “widely accepted beliefs” have changed since then. As have hairstyles.
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
I think I love you.
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by Leopold Bloom on Jan 22, 2010 9:41 PM PST up reply actions
Made love like an eagle
falling out the sky.
Killed his sensei in a duel
and he never said why.
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by Leopold Bloom on Jan 22, 2010 9:55 PM PST up reply actions
There's a difference between the thoughts
And proselytizing them. The former are immobile, as you mentioned. But we can and should do something about discriminatory actions and words.
"Do I talk to myself? No, I just remind myself of what I'm trying to do. You know, I never answer myself so how can I be talking to myself?" - Rickey
by cuppingmaster on Jan 22, 2010 9:35 PM PST up reply actions
Just because they have a right to their belief doesn't mean i don't have a right to condemn it
I also have a right to seek legal injunctions from them acting on it and doing things like tying someone to a fence and throwing rocks at them till they die.
"Since other people actually read these threads, though, probably best that your particular brand of wrongness not go completely unchallenged." - PT
There are differing opinions on me. According to Iglew "DFA is PT with a sense of humor. PT is DFA with introspective self-doubt. I like them both" but according to sirbed Im "The Stats Killer"
by designatedforassignment on Jan 22, 2010 9:41 PM PST up reply actions
Oh, of course.
As horrible as they are, the Westboro people have every right to have those thoughts and to express them in protest form. And homophobes, racists, and other bigots should have every legal right to express their thoughts as well.
It’s society’s job to regulate those beliefs.
Always the summers are slipping away.
Find me a way for making it stay.
so it's ok to be a neo-nazi?
But to condemn anybody for their beliefs, whether right or wrong, is discriminating.
yes.
Or do you want your neo-nazis to have NO self-esteem?!
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by Leopold Bloom on Jan 22, 2010 10:43 PM PST up reply actions
well, a neo0nazi with high self-esteem wouldn't care what others thought of him.
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by Leopold Bloom on Jan 22, 2010 10:47 PM PST up reply actions
I remember when it was Sharps vs Skins all the time
in pre-gentrification Sacramento neighborhoods…
That’s why I hung out with the farmpunks in Galt. No violence… just drinking, property destruction, and music!
"Sniff some krazy glue, and start a religion!"- The Reverend Billy Lard
by Gaijin_Suketto on Jan 24, 2010 10:58 AM PST up reply actions
yeah
it must be like how the A’s feel when they play Boston at the Coliseum.
"You know, a long time ago being crazy meant something. Nowadays everybody's crazy."
-Charles Manson
by kaweahkaweah on Jan 23, 2010 12:35 AM PST up reply actions 1 recs
The only thing I can think of in his defense WRT that LTE is that he was a sophomore in college at the time
people often believe or say or do things at that age that they later regret, and it’s at least hypothetically possible that his views on sexuality have evolved since then. Although since he’s leaving baseball to enter the priesthood, and his letter relates his homophobia to his religious beliefs, I suppose it’s not likely that that’s happened.
"And Julio Franco is batting right-handed!" -- Wayne Hagin, A's radio play-by-play, mid-80s
Gratuitous Lauren Graham image
"Do I talk to myself? No, I just remind myself of what I'm trying to do. You know, I never answer myself so how can I be talking to myself?" - Rickey
by cuppingmaster on Jan 22, 2010 7:39 PM PST up reply actions
Lovely
That’s what I’m talking about.
The Ultimate Opportunist
by Rated-R Superstar on Jan 22, 2010 7:43 PM PST up reply actions
hahah you spelled it wrong
They call their best player "Kung Fu Panda" and they complain that people aren’t taking them or the game seriously enough? -Nick
What this shows me is how little I care about the personal lives of athletes.
I really could care less about why he’s retiring. I don’t know Grant Desme personally. The only connection that I had to him was that he was part of the Oakland Athletics organization. Now that he no longer is, I feel no more or less for his life than I do for the billions of other people in the world whom I know nothing about. Sure, I hope he has a happy life. I would prefer that everybody has a happy life. But there are far too many people in the world that I’ll never know for me to care any more than that.
What I feel is sadness that my favorite baseball team just lost a valuable prospect. I really don’t care why, although I’m glad that he didn’t die. But as far as “respecting his decision” or feeling that he “showed courage” or any of those things… eh. I’m just not particularly invested in the life of Gregory Grant Desme.
"Life is a horizontal fall" -Jean Cocteau
by King Richard on Jan 22, 2010 7:26 PM PST reply actions 1 recs
Who names their kid Grant, anyway?
Did his parents have to apply for him?
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
QOTM
"Bobby Crosby at third is a bit of an adventure. And not like, here’s some hidden treasure, what fun. More like, gah! poison ants!" --alea iacta est
by baseballgirl on Jan 22, 2010 8:59 PM PST up reply actions
I'd write something about "getting screwed by the Angels" and
facing “a young left-hander,” but I don’t have the heart.
"I'm disappointed Ziggy didn't pump his fist towards the sky 100 times and scream like a hooker." ~Nico.
So, I knew this reminded me of something else
There was a soccerball player in the sixties called Peter Knowles, who gave it all up to become a Jehova’s Witness.
Billy Bragg wrote a song about him called ‘God’s Footballer’ which features the rather fetching couplet:
He scores goals on a Saturday
And saves souls on a Sunday
Which is nice.
I suspect that you think tilting at windmills means something other than what it does.
Also, this is from another article on him
He quit football in 1969 to become a Jehovah’s Witness, citing the fact that God wouldn’t want him to hurt his fellow man. “I cannot be a Christian and a clogger,”
I suspect that you think tilting at windmills means something other than what it does.
a clogger?
What, did Dusty Baker get to him too?
by cityplANner on Jan 22, 2010 8:31 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Well, perhaps.
And perhaps that’d explain Lars Elstrup quitting soccer to wave his penis at women on the streets of Copenhagen.
There’s still time, Grant!
I suspect that you think tilting at windmills means something other than what it does.
OMG!!
and they confiscated his dog? what did he do to the dog?
I think they decided the dog was just not safe with a penis waving man
or maybe it just didn’t like Great Danes?
(that’s another penis waving joke)
I suspect that you think tilting at windmills means something other than what it does.
QOTM
"Bobby Crosby at third is a bit of an adventure. And not like, here’s some hidden treasure, what fun. More like, gah! poison ants!" --alea iacta est
by baseballgirl on Jan 22, 2010 8:58 PM PST up reply actions
There are only 12 months in a year
m*****f***ing c***s***ing peanut butter and jelly!! f*** f*** f***!!!
Most of the funniest comments don't get QOTM'ed.
"Sniff some krazy glue, and start a religion!"- The Reverend Billy Lard
by Gaijin_Suketto on Jan 24, 2010 11:00 AM PST up reply actions
agrd.
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by Leopold Bloom on Jan 24, 2010 11:44 AM PST up reply actions
So...new thread?
Friday night drinking game?
WHERE’S THE GAME?!
"Bobby Crosby at third is a bit of an adventure. And not like, here’s some hidden treasure, what fun. More like, gah! poison ants!" --alea iacta est
Isss-over th-there...
{klunk}
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
Damn
I hate it when people pass out drunk without their pants on.
The Ultimate Opportunist
by Rated-R Superstar on Jan 22, 2010 9:42 PM PST up reply actions
I can't help it!!
Have you read this thread?!?
"Bobby Crosby at third is a bit of an adventure. And not like, here’s some hidden treasure, what fun. More like, gah! poison ants!" --alea iacta est
by baseballgirl on Jan 22, 2010 11:08 PM PST up reply actions
No, I was setting up the rules of a new drinking game
m*****f***ing c***s***ing peanut butter and jelly!! f*** f*** f***!!!
`
To give up all this … for that!
There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, Than are dreamt of in your philosophy.
I've got the bacon!
"Do I talk to myself? No, I just remind myself of what I'm trying to do. You know, I never answer myself so how can I be talking to myself?" - Rickey
by cuppingmaster on Jan 22, 2010 9:44 PM PST up reply actions
Seriously
That’s some white bread, no?
The Ultimate Opportunist
by Rated-R Superstar on Jan 22, 2010 9:46 PM PST up reply actions
needs moar bacon.
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by Leopold Bloom on Jan 22, 2010 9:48 PM PST up reply actions
Bacon
The Ultimate Opportunist
by Rated-R Superstar on Jan 22, 2010 9:48 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
WOAH!
{frantically searches keyboard}
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
Sorry
All “Bacon” keys are sold separately.
The Ultimate Opportunist
by Rated-R Superstar on Jan 22, 2010 9:54 PM PST up reply actions
I drooled everytime I came across "bacon sandwiches" in Harry Potter.
I mean, for the love of god, Rowling wrote that phrase at least 50 times.
Always the summers are slipping away.
Find me a way for making it stay.
I'm a fan of the Fool's Gold Sandwich
Grilled PB&J and Bacon. Another one of Elvis’ favorites.
"Do I talk to myself? No, I just remind myself of what I'm trying to do. You know, I never answer myself so how can I be talking to myself?" - Rickey
by cuppingmaster on Jan 22, 2010 9:54 PM PST up reply actions
Bad Idea
That will confine me to just four blogs.
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by Rated-R Superstar on Jan 22, 2010 9:44 PM PST up reply actions
we cannot stop you, RRS.
We can only hope to contain you.
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by Leopold Bloom on Jan 22, 2010 9:48 PM PST up reply actions
In my head I am imagining what this thread would be like if he retired to become a clown.
I'm here to talk about the past.
Whoa
Are you on hallucinogenics?
The Ultimate Opportunist
by Rated-R Superstar on Jan 22, 2010 9:52 PM PST up reply actions
you're too young to understand the draw of evil clown make up.
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by Leopold Bloom on Jan 22, 2010 9:53 PM PST up reply actions
It?
"Since other people actually read these threads, though, probably best that your particular brand of wrongness not go completely unchallenged." - PT
There are differing opinions on me. According to Iglew "DFA is PT with a sense of humor. PT is DFA with introspective self-doubt. I like them both" but according to sirbed Im "The Stats Killer"
by designatedforassignment on Jan 22, 2010 9:58 PM PST up reply actions
say what you will,
Frankenfurter was fucking frightening in that movie.
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by Leopold Bloom on Jan 22, 2010 9:59 PM PST up reply actions
Wait Frankenfurter is Rocky Horror. Im confused
"Since other people actually read these threads, though, probably best that your particular brand of wrongness not go completely unchallenged." - PT
There are differing opinions on me. According to Iglew "DFA is PT with a sense of humor. PT is DFA with introspective self-doubt. I like them both" but according to sirbed Im "The Stats Killer"
by designatedforassignment on Jan 22, 2010 10:07 PM PST up reply actions
same actor, luv.
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by Leopold Bloom on Jan 22, 2010 10:08 PM PST up reply actions
Oh Tim Curry. Duh
You know he’s in Home Alone 2? True story.
"Since other people actually read these threads, though, probably best that your particular brand of wrongness not go completely unchallenged." - PT
There are differing opinions on me. According to Iglew "DFA is PT with a sense of humor. PT is DFA with introspective self-doubt. I like them both" but according to sirbed Im "The Stats Killer"
by designatedforassignment on Jan 22, 2010 10:12 PM PST up reply actions
How do you do? I
see you’ve met my 10
year old nemesis.
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by Leopold Bloom on Jan 22, 2010 10:14 PM PST up reply actions
Well, I was hoping Queen Mary might have the last word,
but now that that’s spoiled, here’s a fun thought experiment: Suppose Desme had retired because the woman he loved didn’t want to be married to a professional baseball player. Would that be sweet? Or would that make him even more of an idiot?
There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, Than are dreamt of in your philosophy.
That way he would get laid sometime in the next 30 years.
Much smarter.
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
Sometimes I want to be married to God...
And it is possible through meditation and celibacy to raise ones’ consciousness to the point where one basically lives in a pre-orgasmic state. It helps very much to be a cloistered monk, and to be away from the world, if one wants to live this life.
If I weren’t a 100% all-in believer in reincarnation and eternal life, I would have some severe angst about living the life I do when a large part of me wants to live a very narrow, disciplined, spiritual life.
I’m a big advocate for believing in reincarnation (even as a placebo belief), because it is so effective in relieving existential angst.
"Sniff some krazy glue, and start a religion!"- The Reverend Billy Lard
by Gaijin_Suketto on Jan 24, 2010 11:19 AM PST up reply actions
Perhaps reincarnation *creates* existential angst.
You know, like a gunky build-up from too many trips through the samsara blender.
That would explains why us new souls don’t have any existential angst to begin with.
There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, Than are dreamt of in your philosophy.
you're not new, doctor...
However, you might qualify as a good example of a light-footprint Earth tourist. A planet as populated as this one only gets that way with a shitload of non-embedded akarmic tourism.
Some people get all hung up on karma in a similar way to those folks that get all hung up on hell. Oh well. It is what it is… either a pitfall to avoid, or an experience to experience.
"Sniff some krazy glue, and start a religion!"- The Reverend Billy Lard
by Gaijin_Suketto on Jan 24, 2010 12:19 PM PST up reply actions
That could be a billboard in the BART station.
Experience Hell.
<large picture of an attractive middle-aged couple holding hands among the flames.>
There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, Than are dreamt of in your philosophy.
Oh, and pretty sure I am new.
This is my first time here.
If that concept bothers you, then perhaps you are the exception to one of my favorite paradoxes. That is: Many people cannot bear the thought that there is no life after death, but hardly anyone cares that there was no life before birth.
There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, Than are dreamt of in your philosophy.
I probably am an exception
I would sub the word “ego” for “life” in your above paradox for my own personal tastes, but so be it.
"Sniff some krazy glue, and start a religion!"- The Reverend Billy Lard
by Gaijin_Suketto on Jan 25, 2010 1:23 PM PST up reply actions
You'd want to be married to God?
It’s bad enough to be married to someone who THINKS they know everything.
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
other than to spit coffee on the screen,
I don’t quite know how to respond to this seriously, without sounding either wishy-washy or preachy.
I sure hope that before we all grow too old, full-sensory VR environments exist and are available to the masses, so we can actually share our amazing experiences, rather than merely attempt to describe them.
"Sniff some krazy glue, and start a religion!"- The Reverend Billy Lard
by Gaijin_Suketto on Jan 24, 2010 12:43 PM PST up reply actions
Interesting Point
If that’s the case, I’d retire; however, I so totally doubt that’s the case.
The Ultimate Opportunist
by Rated-R Superstar on Jan 22, 2010 9:55 PM PST up reply actions
wait.
I swore you people off.
You fuckers tricked me with your sprawling playful fucking Friday night free-for-all.
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The art of haiku is so much more than just the syllable count.
Sprawling playful fucking
Friday night free-for-all:
It’s what we’re good at.
There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, Than are dreamt of in your philosophy.
by iglew on Jan 22, 2010 11:08 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
And it's not even Friday!
Oh wait, it IS Friday! Where did the frickin’ week go????
And this thread is sooooo long…..I think we’re in desperate need of actual games soon….
There's no crying in baseball!
by gigglingone on Jan 22, 2010 10:43 PM PST up reply actions
gigs!
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by Leopold Bloom on Jan 22, 2010 10:47 PM PST up reply actions
I need hot sauce for my pizza.
I’vr got Tapatio, but that’s too hot for pizza. I want some Crystal…
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okay, then, it's tapatio.
Thanks for all the “help,” AN
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by Leopold Bloom on Jan 22, 2010 10:18 PM PST up reply actions
Sorry
I don’t know anything about hot sauces.
The Ultimate Opportunist
by Rated-R Superstar on Jan 22, 2010 10:19 PM PST up reply actions
Blasphemy
Pizza is one of the greatest things in the world.
The Ultimate Opportunist
by Rated-R Superstar on Jan 22, 2010 10:23 PM PST up reply actions
nomnomnom
(ouch)
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by Leopold Bloom on Jan 22, 2010 10:23 PM PST up reply actions
it was just the burning.
deep within me…
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by Leopold Bloom on Jan 22, 2010 10:25 PM PST up reply actions
Yea, he's got specific reasons why not.
DOES THE DOCTOR KNOW?
by LoneStranger on Jan 22, 2010 10:27 PM PST up reply actions
meh.
the last time I talked to her, she told me to lose some weight and get a job.
Fuck her.
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by Leopold Bloom on Jan 22, 2010 10:32 PM PST up reply actions
Did she say anything about getting a haircut, hippie?
by LoneStranger on Jan 22, 2010 10:35 PM PST up reply actions
HA!
smooches!
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by Leopold Bloom on Jan 22, 2010 10:36 PM PST up reply actions
Um, well, one down.
I think she meant change your life, move to Oakland, get a job you like, and hook up with a girl that loves you.
my family hates me too much to let me live happily ever after.
One of you has to come burn this shop to the ground, preferably one of you with either no immediate prospects or one who owns land out of country.
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by Leopold Bloom on Jan 22, 2010 10:39 PM PST up reply actions
I concur.
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by Leopold Bloom on Jan 22, 2010 10:43 PM PST up reply actions
I usually put Frank's Red Hot on my pizza.
But I would do Crystal too, if I didn’t have any FRH.
by LoneStranger on Jan 22, 2010 10:27 PM PST up reply actions
just the opposite for me, but all I have it Tapatio and it's too hot for pizza.
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by Leopold Bloom on Jan 22, 2010 10:27 PM PST up reply actions
Spicy Italian.
It’s absolutely horrible for me.
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by Leopold Bloom on Jan 22, 2010 10:28 PM PST up reply actions
Yea, I can hear your intestines protesting from here.
by LoneStranger on Jan 22, 2010 10:32 PM PST up reply actions
You want some FULL-calorie pseudo-lemonade?
Shawn Spencer: "I’m receiving a transmission from your husband. Really more of a voicemail, if I'm being honest. A status update. Perhaps a twitter."
Burton Guster: "I believe it’s called a tweet."
Shawn Spencer: "There’s no way I’m saying that."
yum.
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by Leopold Bloom on Jan 22, 2010 10:22 PM PST up reply actions
This thing's gonna hit 1,000 comments well before midnight
Maybe even in the next half hour.
Last of the Ninth - Photography
I feel like I deserve an indulgence for reading the whole damn thing
Wait – there’s three more comments
Hey Al, just go away, baby.
Yea, I wanted to do some other things tonight, but instead, I'm clicking Z.
by LoneStranger on Jan 22, 2010 10:33 PM PST up reply actions
agrd.
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by Leopold Bloom on Jan 22, 2010 10:34 PM PST up reply actions
I think there's been 1000 new comments while I've been catching up on the last 1000
If we break AN tonight, bbg is going to be mad! Look at all those QOTM posts she made!
There's no crying in baseball!
by gigglingone on Jan 22, 2010 10:45 PM PST up reply actions
Yes
We’ve gone over 1,000 comments in this post.
The Ultimate Opportunist
by Rated-R Superstar on Jan 22, 2010 10:50 PM PST up reply actions
we desme'd this thread
"Do I talk to myself? No, I just remind myself of what I'm trying to do. You know, I never answer myself so how can I be talking to myself?" - Rickey
by cuppingmaster on Jan 22, 2010 10:51 PM PST up reply actions
Cracked it just a couple of comments ago.
Shawn Spencer: "I’m receiving a transmission from your husband. Really more of a voicemail, if I'm being honest. A status update. Perhaps a twitter."
Burton Guster: "I believe it’s called a tweet."
Shawn Spencer: "There’s no way I’m saying that."
Although, come to think of it
That Cust signing was a pretty sweet deal. What do the rest of you think of it?
(It’s almost 2:30 a.m. I’m going to bed. So I don’t care if I roast in hell for this incitement, especially since it doesn’t exist.)
You missed the part about Leviti-Cust.
There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, Than are dreamt of in your philosophy.
Screw it.
Let’s blame Stretch Armstrong.
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by Leopold Bloom on Jan 22, 2010 10:36 PM PST up reply actions
Nah
Let’s blame B.J. Armstrong.
Sorry, I watched a little bit of the 1993 NBA Finals today. It was on ESPN Classic.
The Ultimate Opportunist
by Rated-R Superstar on Jan 22, 2010 10:37 PM PST up reply actions
Swoop me!
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by Leopold Bloom on Jan 22, 2010 10:41 PM PST up reply actions
throw me!
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by Leopold Bloom on Jan 22, 2010 10:49 PM PST up reply actions
I can go for that
BJ was an Iowa Hawkeye, after all, and therefore worthy of disdain.
Hey Al, just go away, baby.
No... Hawkeye was from Crabapple Cove, Maine...
BJ was from Mill Valley.
"Sniff some krazy glue, and start a religion!"- The Reverend Billy Lard
by Gaijin_Suketto on Jan 24, 2010 12:46 PM PST up reply actions
it is the quickest way up the mountain.
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by Leopold Bloom on Jan 22, 2010 10:48 PM PST up reply actions
but if you want to go in style
only a funicular will do
by cityplANner on Jan 22, 2010 10:52 PM PST up reply actions
most people call that a tram, you know.
most NORMAL people.
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by Leopold Bloom on Jan 22, 2010 10:53 PM PST up reply actions
but then most normal people
don’t get to step off their funicular and eat Brezeln and Weizenbeir for breakfast.
In your FACE, normal people!
by cityplANner on Jan 22, 2010 10:59 PM PST up reply actions
Oh, I like you.
You’re fun.
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by Leopold Bloom on Jan 22, 2010 11:00 PM PST up reply actions
I love funicluars!
Valparaiso and Bahia have the most amazing ones…
by Chilango on Jan 22, 2010 11:12 PM PST up reply actions
I had to step away from the game for a bit.
What’s the score? Did I miss anything?
(Hey, remember when we said we should pick some evening and all get together like it’s a game thread? I think we did that tonight.)
There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, Than are dreamt of in your philosophy.
Oh, I love you.
They call their best player "Kung Fu Panda" and they complain that people aren’t taking them or the game seriously enough? -Nick
No
We’re getting owned by the Twins. We’ll never come back and win this thing. I hate these black uniform tops.
The Ultimate Opportunist
by Rated-R Superstar on Jan 22, 2010 10:42 PM PST up reply actions
Whatever
I’m going to bed.
The Ultimate Opportunist
by Rated-R Superstar on Jan 22, 2010 10:46 PM PST up reply actions
Eh
I don’t feel like going downstairs.
The Ultimate Opportunist
by Rated-R Superstar on Jan 22, 2010 10:48 PM PST up reply actions
Time to bust out the Rally Gilmore Girls!
by LoneStranger on Jan 22, 2010 10:51 PM PST up reply actions
Woo
Someone get the pictures!
The Ultimate Opportunist
by Rated-R Superstar on Jan 22, 2010 10:56 PM PST up reply actions
Hey
I am of legal age.
The Ultimate Opportunist
by Rated-R Superstar on Jan 22, 2010 10:57 PM PST up reply actions
here's one to tide you over until Gio's first start.
by LoneStranger on Jan 22, 2010 11:00 PM PST up reply actions
Thanks
Oh, I like legs.
The Ultimate Opportunist
by Rated-R Superstar on Jan 22, 2010 11:01 PM PST up reply actions
more like "so smooth"
"Do I talk to myself? No, I just remind myself of what I'm trying to do. You know, I never answer myself so how can I be talking to myself?" - Rickey
by cuppingmaster on Jan 22, 2010 11:03 PM PST up reply actions
so bony and uneven and mammalian
I like tights.
"Sniff some krazy glue, and start a religion!"- The Reverend Billy Lard
by Gaijin_Suketto on Jan 25, 2010 1:24 PM PST up reply actions
I like legs that are tight around my....
…nevermind. Oh hey, a puppy!
by LoneStranger on Jan 25, 2010 1:56 PM PST up reply actions
No way
Detroit’s defense is not even close to good enough to post a shutout.
Hey Al, just go away, baby.
Verlander
He’s good enough.
The Ultimate Opportunist
by Rated-R Superstar on Jan 22, 2010 10:47 PM PST up reply actions
where else could he go?
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by Leopold Bloom on Jan 22, 2010 10:57 PM PST up reply actions
univision
"Do I talk to myself? No, I just remind myself of what I'm trying to do. You know, I never answer myself so how can I be talking to myself?" - Rickey
by cuppingmaster on Jan 22, 2010 10:57 PM PST up reply actions
and bump Bumblebee Man?
Are you insane?!
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by Leopold Bloom on Jan 22, 2010 10:58 PM PST up reply actions
aye dios mio
"Do I talk to myself? No, I just remind myself of what I'm trying to do. You know, I never answer myself so how can I be talking to myself?" - Rickey
by cuppingmaster on Jan 22, 2010 10:58 PM PST up reply actions
Speaking of the Spanish station...That was my solution to this whole problem.
Kill Leno’s 10pm show and give him a three hour show on Saturday night, much like Sabado Gigante. Interviews, Hot Chicks, Sketches, Hot Chicks, Game Show events, Hot Chicks, etc. Make it more of an event, and don’t give anyone a reason to say at 11pm “Well, I’ve seen Leno, time for bed.”
by LoneStranger on Jan 22, 2010 11:03 PM PST up reply actions
Perfect
Eubanks could have been the Chakal
"Do I talk to myself? No, I just remind myself of what I'm trying to do. You know, I never answer myself so how can I be talking to myself?" - Rickey
by cuppingmaster on Jan 22, 2010 11:04 PM PST up reply actions
I'm hoping for an appearance by Triumph
"Do I talk to myself? No, I just remind myself of what I'm trying to do. You know, I never answer myself so how can I be talking to myself?" - Rickey
by cuppingmaster on Jan 22, 2010 10:53 PM PST up reply actions
didn't he show up earlier this week
along with the mastrubating bear?
You have to include smiley faces - Poppy
;- ) :- ) :-O : -> : -] : -}
NEW THREAD MOJO!!!
http://www.athleticsnation.com/2010/1/22/1266092/open-thread-game-0-desme-retires
Always the summers are slipping away.
Find me a way for making it stay.
This thread is EPIC...
I’ve laughed, I’ve cried, I’ve (facepalmed).
Awwww…you guys. When does baseball start!?
"Bobby Crosby at third is a bit of an adventure. And not like, here’s some hidden treasure, what fun. More like, gah! poison ants!" --alea iacta est
Damn...this thread was like a party.
"The A's get some action but they do not score..." -Glen Kuiper
"Anyone who calls themselves the Angels Angels should have to start over and ride the short bus." -timmeh from McCovey Chronicles
The more i think about this
the stranger it seems
Work as if everything depends on you and Pray knowing that everything depends on God. - Michael Taylor
Well, since Desme, hadn't made it to the majors, I still think this is the most talented
pro athlete to leave his career, in the middle, to pursue god. He is still young enough, to be the Raiders running back, now.
After reading a book the Rev. David Cannistraci of the GateWay Church in San Jose, Kaufman sought him out and eventually asked him to be his pastor. The year was 1999, and Kaufman would hit the road two years later by establishing the Crucified in Christ ministry, with which he traveled the country to speak and spread the word.
“I was in contact with him, and you sense that the draw of what God was calling him to do was much stronger than to play football,” said Kenyan Branscomb, an elder in the church and a teammate of Kaufman from 1996 to 1998. “As God was pulling him away, you could sense that he wanted to focus on God, and that was what he was meant to do.”
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