The winner of the Chapman sweepstakes= The Reds
by casualinquisition on Jan 10, 2010 12:20 PM PST
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PrintThe Reds came out of nowhere to sign Chapman to a lucrative deal of 5yr/30mill today. I am happy he didn't end up signing with the Angels or Red Sox. First off, this deal shows that Chapman was A) smart in switching to more experienced agents and B) that these agents (the Hendricks brothers if I'm not mistaken) knew what they were doing when they strung this bidding out into 2010- despite the tax implications.
It is not hard to see why the A's were not one of the final players in the bidding for Chapman, IMO. I think that if Chapman is a guy who teams know will be a future starter- and not a future closer- then the A's would be willing to offer as much money as any other team. However, BB probably felt that Chapman, who only has one MLB ready pitch, is just as likely to become a RP as an SP. Some teams are willing to pay a lot of money for potentially elite closers, but the A's are not one of those teams.
So what do you think? Should the A's have invested 30 mill. to get essentially a Neftali Feliz-like arm in our system? or was BB smart in staying out of this bidding war?
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If the A's were desperate for pitching I'd say yes
But they already have a lot of pitching depth in their system so this is a risk they’re safe enough not taking.
They already got Inoa/Ynoa/whatever, anyway.
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Wow, where did they come from??
This is a surprised. Kudos to their GM, I hope it works out for them
I suspect that you think tilting at windmills means something other than what it does.
As the looks of this group....
I think I’m just going to go ahead and pop my shirt off.
What you fail to understand in your joyless myopia is that baseball is the key to life-- the Rosetta Stone, if you will. If you just understood baseball better all your other questions your, your... the, uh... the aliens, the conspiracies they would all, in their way be answered by the baseball gods.
$30 Million
Yup, I’ll pass.
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by Rated-R Superstar on Jan 10, 2010 12:46 PM PST reply actions
too much for someone so unproven.
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by Leopold Bloom on Jan 10, 2010 3:24 PM PST up reply actions
i wish the A's would have stepped up here
Now I freely admit that I have a biased. Both my parents were born and raised in Cuba and I would love to see a Cuban phenom in the green and gold. The A’s know how to handle young pitchers and he would have a better shot here than in Cinncinati. Besides my biased, I think the kid will be good. His arm is electric. In Cuba the coahing is nowhere near as good as it is here. Once his mechanics are honed, he will be electric. I also think that it would have put the A’s in the spotlight, especially with a new stadium hopefully on its way. I just think we lost out on a good player and a great marketing tool. And 6 mil a year, with Chavvys 12 coming off tbe books, would have been affordable. But it says something about the state of the franchise when you get outbid by the Reds.
"I don't mean to sound bitter, cold, or cruel, but I am, so that's how it comes out."-Bill Hicks
by Man Bear Pig on Jan 10, 2010 1:16 PM PST via mobile reply actions
to be fair, in the 'outbid by the Reds' stakes, the A's are in pretty good company, here
I suspect that you think tilting at windmills means something other than what it does.
I don't know how being outbid by the Reds mean anything about the state of the franchise
I mean the Angels, Blue Jays, Red Sox, and A’s got outbid here. I don’t know but 30M for that many questions who knows if this is a good signing or not maybe 4 years from now we’ll find out.
$30+ million?
No thanks.
Is this the real life-
Is this just fantasy-
Caught in a landslide-
No escape from reality-
I agree. I'm not bummed.
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
I am
Not that the A’s didn’t sign him. But that he wouldn’t agree to play for the A’s for the $5 I was willing to give him. Granted he didn’t know I’d be willing to give him a fiver, but still, he should have. It would have been a Crisp bill. (I’d steal it out of Coco’s locker during Spring Training).
CuttheMullet, from "The Thread":
"Whenever I’m about to do something, I think "would an idiot do that?" and if they would, I do not do that thing."
by DMOAS on Jan 10, 2010 2:34 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Well
I guess I just need to wait for the A’s to get a Cuban I can root for. I guess Gio will work, he is of Cuban descent too.
"I don't mean to sound bitter, cold, or cruel, but I am, so that's how it comes out."-Bill Hicks
Ah, but is he Cuban enough?
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by thejd44 on Jan 10, 2010 2:50 PM PST up reply actions
can he play third?
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by Leopold Bloom on Jan 10, 2010 3:25 PM PST up reply actions
Times like this make me very glad the A's have a number of Americans on their team
I love rooting for people from where my parents were born and raised.
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Is Cardenas second generation Cuban as well?
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wow, for $30 million they could have signed a major league ready starting pitcher
like eric milton
A's v Giants "is kind of like the difference between going to see the Ramones and going to see the Bee Gees. A's fans will go see the Ramones."
-BB 07/27/05
by xbhaskarx on Jan 10, 2010 2:33 PM PST reply actions 2 recs
no one liked my eric milton joke? :-(
A's v Giants "is kind of like the difference between going to see the Ramones and going to see the Bee Gees. A's fans will go see the Ramones."
-BB 07/27/05
sorry, xbox.
I didn’t get it.
I’m blonde.
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by Leopold Bloom on Jan 10, 2010 3:35 PM PST up reply actions
Ooh, do you play soccer?
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for $30 million most teams could probably sign a legitimate MLB starting pitcher
the reds paid eric milton $25 million.
he was not very good.
A's v Giants "is kind of like the difference between going to see the Ramones and going to see the Bee Gees. A's fans will go see the Ramones."
-BB 07/27/05
Ha!
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by King Richard on Jan 10, 2010 4:15 PM PST up reply actions
Was that right after his 20-win season in Philadelphia?
"And Julio Franco is batting right-handed!" -- Wayne Hagin, A's radio play-by-play, mid-80s
?
http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/m/miltoer01.shtml
14-6, 4.75 era
A's v Giants "is kind of like the difference between going to see the Ramones and going to see the Bee Gees. A's fans will go see the Ramones."
-BB 07/27/05
Okay, I obviously meant 20-decision season in Philly
"And Julio Franco is batting right-handed!" -- Wayne Hagin, A's radio play-by-play, mid-80s
With an ERA that included digits.
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and he had a uniform and stuff, too.
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by Leopold Bloom on Jan 11, 2010 3:03 AM PST up reply actions
You as well.
Let me guide you safely through the red light district and invite you to spend the night on my couch.
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by Leopold Bloom on Jan 11, 2010 3:04 AM PST up reply actions
Good for the A's
Chapman from everything said is more of a closer type so he didn’t need to come to the A’s. I look at him as another Danny Baez with a better fastball. In no way was he worth as much as he received. You can’t blame him for taking the $30 million and signing with a team that struggles to bring up solid pitchers. Not a good track record on the reds with pitching prospects but you can’t turn down the $30 million. It is also good the Angels didn’t end up with Chapman because they don’t have a long term solution closer in their system. In all way a win win for the A’s. Now use that money to sign a hitter.
That's not totally accurate
“Everything said” does not peg him as a closer. There is some concern that he won’t develop the secondary pitches needed to be a successful starter, and he may be relegated to closing, but that’s hardly a given at this point.
I agree that it’s far too much to pay IF he’s a closer, but the Reds would be crazy to not give him every chance in the world to succeed as a starter.
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by thejd44 on Jan 10, 2010 2:51 PM PST up reply actions
Starter first
Of course the reds will make him a starter if they are going to give him $30 million but it does take a while to learn new pitches and when you give someone that type of money they get pushed through the sytem faster than a regular prospect. Even randy johnson needed time to learn more pitches. A few years ago there a kid named Anderson with a 100+ fastball called the next Randy Johnson but never made it. With all that money there will be to much pressure to rush him to the bigs as fast as they can.
You know who he reminds me of?
Brien Taylor. “Who?” Exactly.
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
I remember Taylor.
He was a big time Yankee prospect. He was kinda from the Todd Van Popple era.
taylor
great prospect but goes to a party and get stabs in the shoulder if I remember correctly and never recovers. Chapman reminds me of Danny Baez another cuban pitcher with a great fastball who signed for big bucks but couldn’t make it as a starter and has end up as a relief pitcher.
I thought he just got in a fight and got his shoulder torn up
I didn’t remember anything about a knife, but I could definitely be wrong about that.
"And Julio Franco is batting right-handed!" -- Wayne Hagin, A's radio play-by-play, mid-80s
Yeah
I don’t think Brien Taylor is a good comparison for any prospect. Comparing someone to him is basically like saying that you think that it’s likely that person will suffer a freak off-field incident. By the very nature of such things, they are not predictable…
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Truth be told, I didn't know/remember about the off-field incident
I thought he just flamed out.
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When the subsections of the wikipedia page about you look like this
* 1 Early life & baseball draft
* 2 Minor leagues & fist fight
* 3 Current life
* 4 References
* 5 External links
you know your baseball career didn’t go as planned.
Current Life
As of July 14, 2006, Taylor lays bricks for a living working with his father. According to financial records filed in a child support application, he makes $909 per month. He is the father of five daughters. Taylor still lives with his parents, at the end of a street named after him, in a two-story brick and frame house that he built using his signing bonus.
"And Julio Franco is batting right-handed!" -- Wayne Hagin, A's radio play-by-play, mid-80s
He lays bricks for a living?
So he plays for the Warriors now?
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Correction
The Warriors are second in the NBA in points per game (107.3 points) while ranking fourth in free throw percentage (78.3 percent) and sixth in field goal percentage (47.6 percent) so we can make our shots.
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by Rated-R Superstar on Jan 10, 2010 10:29 PM PST up reply actions
They still suck
Giving up the most points (5 more than anyone else), plus their opponents having the 4th best FT% against them and their opponents having the best FG% has a lot to do with that, though.
So does having the worst rebounding differential by about 3 over the next team and 5.3 over the one after that doesn’t help, either. Not only do they get the fewest rebounds per game, they give up the most as well.
Might not be accurate to say the Warriors don’t toss up a ton of bricks, but neither do their opponents.
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points aren't the best proxy for offensive performance in hoops
Because a lot of it is a function of style of play. The Warriors play a fast pace and have more opportunities to score than a methodical offense like the Cavs. Efficiency is a better measure – the kind of stuff you can find on 82games.com, hoopshype, etc.
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by notsellingjeans on Jan 11, 2010 5:10 AM PST up reply actions
Still, if they're 4th in FT% and 6th in FG% they're not "laying bricks"
"And Julio Franco is batting right-handed!" -- Wayne Hagin, A's radio play-by-play, mid-80s
Exactly
That was the point. I know we’re still a bad team and we’ll stay that way unless there’s changes in management. Cohan and Rowell have to go.
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by Rated-R Superstar on Jan 11, 2010 3:02 PM PST up reply actions
$909 a month?
Holy crap that’s terrible. Does his father own some kind of sweatshop or something?
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It's more than I earn, currently
I suspect that you think tilting at windmills means something other than what it does.
You should have picked bobthousandaire
as your screen name. Power of positive thinking, my friend.
"The ego, the super-ego, and the Ed" - danmerqury
It's about what I earn, actually
And I can tell you: It sucks. PT is right. “Holy crap that’s terrible” is how I feel everyday when I wake up and think “Whoever invented Master’s Degrees needs to be kicked in the nuts.”
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by thejd44 on Jan 11, 2010 10:49 AM PST up reply actions
The trick is...
Get your Masters and then work in a field that has absolutely no relation to the time and money you spent in school. That’s how you make the big bucks.
The monster at the end of this blog.
Unless your master's degree is in business,
the idea should be to make money in order to go to graduate school, not the other way around.
Thomas H Benton has it right.
There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, Than are dreamt of in your philosophy.
That is a pretty sad story
You can’t help but feel sorry for Taylor.
What's worse is that he wasn't some thug getting in a bar fight
From all accounts I read, he was defending his brother from an attack and tore up his shoulder. Not exactly a Chris Henry sort of guy, I don’t think.
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by thejd44 on Jan 10, 2010 7:05 PM PST up reply actions
he should've waited for a playoff game to get in a bar fight
"The ego, the super-ego, and the Ed" - danmerqury
I reread about the fight
Taylor’s brother got beat up by a bully and taylor went over to the guy’s trailer and got into a fight with him and landed on his shoulder and ripped it up real bad. No knife fight that was another prospect my mistake. Just another top prospect life going down the tubes. sad story that he is know just a brick worker making very little.
Angel Villalona is about the closest thing to Taylor right now
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by thejd44 on Jan 10, 2010 7:04 PM PST up reply actions
Too much $$$
I’d rather see the A’s use some of that money in the draft. Sign the high-bonus guys who fall because of money — I think $30M buys a lot more talent that way that with a fairly risky — and likely reliever — like Chapman.
+1
arcman, how is your comment agreement? he is saying the a’s should instead use the chapman money on many NOT sure things, instead of on just one.
A's v Giants "is kind of like the difference between going to see the Ramones and going to see the Bee Gees. A's fans will go see the Ramones."
-BB 07/27/05
sign draft players that drop down
is what he meant. Chapman is not a sure thing. Like when JD Drew dropped.
right, and neither is anyone taken in the draft, even if they drop down
also, those three sentences are not in an order (1, 3, 2) that makes sense.
A's v Giants "is kind of like the difference between going to see the Ramones and going to see the Bee Gees. A's fans will go see the Ramones."
-BB 07/27/05
I don't understand why everyone is suddenly saying
“Wow, that’s way too much”.
Back in November NSJ suggested the A’s sign Chapman for $60 million for eight years. Surely $30 million for five years is not worse than that. (And now I’m seeing reports that it’s actually 5/$25m, not 5/$30m.)
As for the income tax, that was only going to apply to any signing bonus, not salary. (And even the bonus part I’m not sure was really true.)
There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, Than are dreamt of in your philosophy.
I'm not sure anyone was backing NSJ up on the Chapman at $60
If anything I see a lot of “um, no thanks” to that. A lot of his other issues went over well, but that one didn’t.
CuttheMullet, from "The Thread":
"Whenever I’m about to do something, I think "would an idiot do that?" and if they would, I do not do that thing."
Well, in the end-of-year tax thread,
people were talking about a $15 million signing bonus. Were people expecting that after the signing bonus we’d pay him league minimum for the rest of his contract?
Maybe I misread AN. I thought something close to 5/$25m was about what everyone was expecting Chapman’s price to be when we were debating whether he was worth it.
There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, Than are dreamt of in your philosophy.
5 years, 25 million, player option for a 6th year
and the payment is spread out over 10 years
That’s interesting.
They call their best player "Kung Fu Panda" and they complain that people aren’t taking them or the game seriously enough? -Nick
He gets $1 million in 2010
This sounds pretty good for the Reds. They have him under control for a nice chunk of time. I’m curious as to whether they have the right pitching personnel to vest work with Chapman. If he becomes MLB ready quickly it’s a good deal for them.
by OaklandSi on Jan 10, 2010 4:25 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
Bryan Price is our pitching coach and Mario Soto is a special assistant
Soto has done wonders with Cueto and Volquez. Price comes highly regarded from Arizona.
2011 rotation could be Volquez, Cueto, Bailey, Chapman, and Mike Leake. That’s gonna be killer if works out. I’m so glad this last decade is over. People forget the Reds weren’t always as bad as 2001-2009.
Broke our hearts in 1990
We remember.
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by notsellingjeans on Jan 10, 2010 8:32 PM PST up reply actions
Chapman after Leake
would not be fun to hit, with 25 mph difference in fastball. Was really hoping A’s would sign him. Leake, not Chapman…
Have a glove you could spare for a good cause? If so please let me know
When Leake gives up a homer...
…will the announcer say “A Leake Boom Boom Downtown” or what?
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Mike Leake doesn't throw a 75 MPH fastball
You appear to have confused him with Tim Wakefield…?
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Good for the Reds
I’m glad he went to another hardluck team like the Reds, and not one of the usual suspects, i.e. Red Sox or Yankees. Are we sure it was not a typo and it was the Red Sox all along?
If Henry Rodriguez was a Cuban defector, would he be worth, say 20 million?
I would not pay Dice-K money for Dice-K.
I would not pay Matsui money for Matsui. I would not pay Arnoldis money for Chapman and, mercifully, neither will Billy Beane. Thank you, Cincy, for removing the temptation.
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Wow! Beane and Forst must have been really impressed in Houston.
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by WaddellCanseco on Jan 10, 2010 6:08 PM PST up reply actions
We have two data points
The $30M/5 years offered by the Reds and the 23/5 offer by the Jays.
I’d wager a similarly structured deal in between those two, so close to the$25M/5 offered y everyone here.
by eastbayexpat on Jan 11, 2010 5:19 AM PST up reply actions
It's a gamble at $30M but a good one for the Reds. If it works out they've got a potentially
excellent rotation in 2012 with Chapman, Volquez, Bailey and Cueto. Also a very good core with Bruce, Stubbs, Votto, Frazier and maybe Phillips. I really like what Jocketty’s doing. Cincinnati used to be as baseball-crazy as St Louis, and getting a consistent contender might be able to get them back there.
It's not the results, it's how you look going about those results -- Tim McCarver
Question about revenue sharing...
The A’s make good money from this, but do they make more or less depending on how low their team salary number is?
I notice they seem ok with spending on prospects as opposed to FAs, which is good for a number of reasons, but I wonder if it has something to do with those dollars not counting against them when all the revenue sharing calculations are done. That way they get good young players and as much revenue as possible from the Yankees. Or does it not work like this?
My understanding of revenue sharing is that
each team puts in a fixed percentage of their local revenues into the pot, and then that pot is distributed evenly among all the franchises. If a team’s (local) revenues are above average, they’ll put in more than they get back; if a team’s revenues are below average, they’ll get back more than they put in. The numbers you usually see for revenue sharing is the net of the contribution and distribution.
I think there’s also a portion of the MLB general fund (ie, revenue from joint league-wide sources) that is distributed according to a formula that gives more to the lower revenue teams.
As far as I know, a team’s payroll has no bearing on any of this at all. It’s all based on revenues.
Payroll does affect the “luxury tax”, ie, the amount a team must pay if they go over the salary cap. The luxury tax money is earmarked for various MLB development programs; it is not distributed back to other teams.
There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, Than are dreamt of in your philosophy.
With Olney reporting that the A's finished second
This means they are willing to commit money to, well, somebody. While I don’t want them to spend money just to spend it, I wonder if this means the A’s are not done adding payroll for this year.
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by thejd44 on Jan 10, 2010 7:06 PM PST reply actions
Specifically, they just tried to spend around 28M on Beltre,
and then probably about that on Chapman. So apparently they are totally willing and able to spend 28M if the right guy is in front of them.
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I hadn't heard a specific number on Beltre before.
I’m not sure there’s any free agents out there worth pursuing though. I wouldn’t be surprised to see Beane now look to adding payroll through a trade or two.
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by thejd44 on Jan 10, 2010 7:24 PM PST up reply actions
I heard 3/28 believed offered for Beltre
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
I heard 3/24
And that Phillie and Oakland BOTH offered that.
Is this the real life-
Is this just fantasy-
Caught in a landslide-
No escape from reality-
The remaining free agents are basically a pile of complete garbage
There isn’t a single remaining competent player at third base or shortstop. CHONE only thinks five or six remaining position players are even average talents.
The A’s already missed the boat on the easy-pickings salary dumps like Iwamura and Hardy, too. At this point there’s very little that Oakland can actually do to improve the team efficiently.
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I've never played organized baseball in the US
and I’d just like to let Billy Beane know that I’m perfectly willing to sign in the $20 million range.
"And Julio Franco is batting right-handed!" -- Wayne Hagin, A's radio play-by-play, mid-80s
Just so you know
I’m planning on undercutting you by a few million. Take that, free market!
I suspect that you think tilting at windmills means something other than what it does.
So now its Furcal, Scutaro, Beltre and Chapman
who turned down equal or better offers to sign with another team.
FOR THE LOVE OF OAKLAND CAN WE GET A NEW STADIUM LIKE NOW???? This is getting really ridiculous…
I don't know if it's just the stadium
I think the A’s being bad hurt. And Chapman signed with the team that offered the most money, so I don’t think he qualifies for that list.
Also, I think Beltre wanted the one-year deal to try to improve his chances for a 4 year deal next offseason. And he’s more likely to have big offensive numbers in Boston than Oakland.
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by thejd44 on Jan 11, 2010 10:52 AM PST up reply actions
Not really adding payroll this year
besides the initial bonus.
Too bad would have been great to add a high upside guy. Would rather “gamble” on him and punt 2010, than resign Cust.
How are those two things related at all?
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by thejd44 on Jan 10, 2010 7:25 PM PST up reply actions
I think some people just don't like Jack Cust, and like saying it
rather like how I have a thing where I don’t like Dana Eveland’s hipster glasses
I suspect that you think tilting at windmills means something other than what it does.
Valverde?
Why are they saying the A’s want him? That makes no sense.
Valverde to the A's....
Seems to be pure speculation on the part of Tim Dierkes….
by casualinquisition on Jan 10, 2010 7:45 PM PST up reply actions
Yeah Direkes is the only human being on earth saying we are an option for him
We already have 3 guys with closer experience and Weurtz, who basically could be one as well.
Beane needs to trade for Lowrie and Kouzmanoff (or LaRoche) more than anything else right now.
I really hope not
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by WaddellCanseco on Jan 11, 2010 1:14 AM PST up reply actions
Wow, Chapman=Feliz?
Not from what I’ve heard. He’s got quite a long road to development before he get’s to that level.
by nobodyinparticular on Jan 10, 2010 7:57 PM PST reply actions
I would say the A's need good hitters more
Maybe the A’s should go after some Cuban hitters instead of pitchers. You don’t hear much about that happening do you?
Thank you Al Davis for Michael Crabtree!!!!!
you don't just get to choose which cuban players you go after out of some large pool, they have to defect
also, almost all of the a’s top prospects are hitters, only 2-3 are pitchers.
A's v Giants "is kind of like the difference between going to see the Ramones and going to see the Bee Gees. A's fans will go see the Ramones."
-BB 07/27/05
Beltre, Marco, Chapman - Who's next not to sign?
2nd place is the 1st loser – Getting pretty old this offseason
- We offer more more money to Marco – Goes to boston
- We offer more total money to Beltre- Goes to boston (not really sad about not getting beltre)
- We are reported to come in 2nd place in the chapman sweepstakes.
Getting pretty darn old and fast – Thats a ton of money we didn’t spend this offseason –
So the question become, do we spend the money this offseason or save it for next season or Wolf’s pocket?
Well, I mean, it's the same pile of money being not spent over and over again
You can only spend a dollar once, but you can fail to spend it a million times…
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Shawn Spencer: "There’s no way I’m saying that."
IMO Tejada will be signed this week
There’s mutual interest on both sides, Tejada needs to bring down his asking price to the $4-5mill range.
and also he needs to learn to play 3B.
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Do. Not. Want.
I just don’t have a lot of interest in old players with declining numbers in hitters’ parks in the National League.
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by thejd44 on Jan 11, 2010 10:56 AM PST up reply actions
cool lets bring in a guy who's going to have a .300 OBP and cant play defense
who will ground into approximately 40 double plays. Radical. Really going to help the team. And by help I mean “make it as bad as it possibly could be”. Never mind the 2 pitch outs as we watch the opposing pitcher dominate us.
MIGUEL TEJADA SUCKS AND I HATE YOU AND FIND YOU STUPID FOR WANTING HIM HERE.
Might have been the blog by Susan Slusser
But she did clear it up stating it was the other way around
by inspyro on Jan 11, 2010 7:35 AM PST via mobile up reply actions
Except Chapman didn't cost a first round draft pick, only money
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by WaddellCanseco on Jan 11, 2010 8:16 PM PST up reply actions
interesting how different the scouting reports here are than at RedReporter
there are 6 posts about his signing with over 2000 comments, maybe 3000 total.
here’s one quote:
“He’s got a great athletic body,” Walker said. “He was an arm of super strength. At no time during the workout did I feel he let it loose. He was free and easy and the ball just jumped out of his hand. That’s what you want from a young pitcher.”
As for a his other pitches:
“I call it slider, but it’s a mix of slider and curve. It has a sharp break. He kept down in the zone that day. It was in the low 80s. His change-up was good. He commanded it well that day. As far as velocity, it was from the low 70s to 76, 77. He was also cutting the ball that day to get sink, throwing a two-seam and four-seam.
“He’s an exciting young man to watch.”
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