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September 4th, 2009 Daily Link Dump

While I sit here, sick out of my skull and yet still selling signs, I contemplate the futility of sports and the impotence in particular of my teams.  I love the Oakland A's, The Notre Dame Fighting Irish and the Cincinnati Bengals.

Star-divide

Not since Jerry Faust have I viewed the Irish with as much pity and contempt.  Surely, they will be horrible again this season.  My only sliver of hope is that they do poorly enough to get rid of the fat man.  Their season starts this weekend.

The Bengals...well, being a Bengals fan is a unique experience that I would wish on no one, though it does give me empathy for the Royals fans of the world.  I feel your pain.  My team has been to the playoffs one time and had one winning season in the last twenty years.  In that playoff game, hope lasted one offensive play before Kimo broke Carson Palmer.  It seemed only fitting that an ex-Bengal would continue the curse.  This off-season, my convict-happy Bengals signed Tank Johnson.  I do not see the season ending well.

That brings us to our common ground.  Upon my "wall of glory," I've removed the Miguel Cabrera Orlando Cabrera poster (he was an A for about three months).  I've got the Jason Giambi AvoDerm poster up, some swag given to me by a sweet girl with magnets of Jason Kendall, Marco Scutaro, Mark Kotsay, Bobby Crosby, Eric Chavez and Justin Duchscherer.  Of all of those players, only one has any chance of getting into another regular season game as a member of our team this season.  And the rest have nothing but fleeting hopes.

Perhaps it's the fever talking, but I'm in a sport-related wasteland here.  Sure, I can adopt surrogate teams--the Florida Gators, in particular, given my surroundings, provide me not only with comfort and winning, but also idle chatter conversation pieces to bring up while selling signs (you'd be surprised how uninspiring discussing the A's with the average Floridian is).  But, it's not the same.

And you, dear DLD monkeys, what about you?  Do you find yourself comforted in the arms of another?  Another team you'd not like your AN buddies to know about?  Repent and confess, lest surely ye be destroyed.  Now dump child monkeys.  Dump.

Poll
Do you have secret love for another team?
Yes, but not in baseball.
14 votes
Yes, but not in the AL.
9 votes
Yes, but not in the AL West.
5 votes
Yes, and the next time the A's leave town, I'm sneaking over the Bay to whore myself once again.
1 votes
No. Screw you, fat sign monkey.
12 votes
Ooooo! Look at the pretty colors!
10 votes

51 votes | Poll has closed

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Miguel Cabrera?

"I’m Joey Devine, I’m what Joba Chamberlain would be if he was good and nobody had ever heard of him."

by mikev on Sep 4, 2009 1:37 PM PDT reply actions  

I am feverish.

Al: We gotta form a government for the settlement.
Merrick: Who does?
Al: Us! You and me. Come to me in a vision! You stupid bastard

by Leopold Bloom on Sep 4, 2009 1:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

what the hell was that dude's name we traded to the Twins?

Al: We gotta form a government for the settlement.
Merrick: Who does?
Al: Us! You and me. Come to me in a vision! You stupid bastard

by Leopold Bloom on Sep 4, 2009 1:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

if we sent away Miguel Cabrera

and all we got in return was Ladendorf, then I would have been very sad

by colin on Sep 4, 2009 1:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

Cepeda?

Al: We gotta form a government for the settlement.
Merrick: Who does?
Al: Us! You and me. Come to me in a vision! You stupid bastard

by Leopold Bloom on Sep 4, 2009 1:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

fix-ed.

Al: We gotta form a government for the settlement.
Merrick: Who does?
Al: Us! You and me. Come to me in a vision! You stupid bastard

by Leopold Bloom on Sep 4, 2009 1:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

Where the fuck is Ricky?

Hey, Raburn! YOU ever dive into the shallow end of a pool?--noava22

by lynnzgal on Sep 4, 2009 1:56 PM PDT up reply actions  

Rickey (tared)

Hey, Raburn! YOU ever dive into the shallow end of a pool?--noava22

by lynnzgal on Sep 4, 2009 1:56 PM PDT up reply actions  

he's waiting to be laminated and mounted.

Al: We gotta form a government for the settlement.
Merrick: Who does?
Al: Us! You and me. Come to me in a vision! You stupid bastard

by Leopold Bloom on Sep 4, 2009 2:25 PM PDT up reply actions  

IK,R?

Al: We gotta form a government for the settlement.
Merrick: Who does?
Al: Us! You and me. Come to me in a vision! You stupid bastard

by Leopold Bloom on Sep 5, 2009 1:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

Chupa Cabrera?

"Go ahead and overachieve, you scrappy Brett-Favre-colored walk-takers." —Rev Halofan

by iglew on Sep 4, 2009 1:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

agrd.

Al: We gotta form a government for the settlement.
Merrick: Who does?
Al: Us! You and me. Come to me in a vision! You stupid bastard

by Leopold Bloom on Sep 4, 2009 2:25 PM PDT up reply actions  

Actually, this does bring up an interesting point

My attitude towards the Giants is best charactorized as being one of a distant, but genial relative; I’ll come along to the wedding, but I’m not turning up for birthdays if the horses are on.

Um, what I mean is, I don’t see them particularly as a rival for the A’s, so I don’t begrudge them their success, and hell, it’s nice to see at least one Bay Area team doing well. And even, whisper it, a little bit exciting. Plus, I live in the city. On the other hand, I don’t actually care enough to, yknow, watch their games if there’s something important (read, watching Bring it On) I should be doing.

This being the case, would it be wrong of me to get a playoff ticket when the time comes? On one hand, the tickets are open to the public, and if I were there, I’d definitely be rooting for the Giants. On the other, would I be denying a Giants fan who really cares about Bengie Molina’s strops a potentially once in a lifetime opportunity, by buying up a ticket they might have used?

Or is the case, as one of my friends (a Giants fan) put it, more that ‘Giants fans only get enthusiastic if there is white wine and cheese involved..’

Or am I just overthinking this too much?

Uh, as for teams I play around with; does watching Andy Murray tease his way through the US Open count?

by bobnothing on Sep 4, 2009 1:39 PM PDT reply actions  

Anne Murray's in the US Open?

Isn’t she like 60?

Al: We gotta form a government for the settlement.
Merrick: Who does?
Al: Us! You and me. Come to me in a vision! You stupid bastard

by Leopold Bloom on Sep 4, 2009 1:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

hear her roar!

"Flea Markets aren't just for blind dates anymore!"- The Reverend Billy Lard

by Gaijin_Suketto on Sep 4, 2009 2:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

How can you?

She never opens her mouth when she sings.

"If Vin Mazzaro comes anywhere near me with shaving cream he’s gonna be coming away with a bloody stump" – Dallas Braden

by doctorK on Sep 4, 2009 2:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

going to two games this weekend

and they are both Red Sox at White Sox. I will be trying not to say too many disparaging things about the Red Sox because my girlfriend will punch me if I do. She’s actually going to all four games of the series, but fortunately found some other Red Sox fans so that I get off the hook for a couple of them.

Other plans for the weekend — get a lot of work done so I can go see the A’s Tuesday and Wednesday!

by colin on Sep 4, 2009 1:42 PM PDT reply actions  

I take it you're back stateside.

Al: We gotta form a government for the settlement.
Merrick: Who does?
Al: Us! You and me. Come to me in a vision! You stupid bastard

by Leopold Bloom on Sep 4, 2009 1:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

yeah

I’ve been back for almost three weeks now. I need to graduate and find a job (not necessarily in that order) and it is terrifying.

by colin on Sep 4, 2009 1:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

want a sign shop?

Al: We gotta form a government for the settlement.
Merrick: Who does?
Al: Us! You and me. Come to me in a vision! You stupid bastard

by Leopold Bloom on Sep 4, 2009 1:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

I should've just carried on and gotten my Ph.D...

Oh, fate, how you mock me!

Al: We gotta form a government for the settlement.
Merrick: Who does?
Al: Us! You and me. Come to me in a vision! You stupid bastard

by Leopold Bloom on Sep 4, 2009 1:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

Which position are you applying for?

The elf? the wizard?

"Go ahead and overachieve, you scrappy Brett-Favre-colored walk-takers." —Rev Halofan

by iglew on Sep 4, 2009 2:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

now you've got me pondering

which D&D character class is closest to a post-doc in observational cosmology. I was trying to get work done!

by colin on Sep 4, 2009 2:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

Advanced relativity and cosmology was when Physics and I started to hang out less

Quantum field theory = my brain weeps.

I took the easy way out and studied field theory in colloidal suspensions for my Masters, which is not nearly so impressive…

by bobnothing on Sep 4, 2009 2:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

I'm pretty ure you'd both be wizards.

though colin may actually be a druid.

Al: We gotta form a government for the settlement.
Merrick: Who does?
Al: Us! You and me. Come to me in a vision! You stupid bastard

by Leopold Bloom on Sep 4, 2009 2:28 PM PDT up reply actions  

several, really.

just wear a pointy hat to cover it up.

Al: We gotta form a government for the settlement.
Merrick: Who does?
Al: Us! You and me. Come to me in a vision! You stupid bastard

by Leopold Bloom on Sep 4, 2009 2:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

perfect, go dig it out of the closet.

You can use magic to change it. Don’t worry.

Al: We gotta form a government for the settlement.
Merrick: Who does?
Al: Us! You and me. Come to me in a vision! You stupid bastard

by Leopold Bloom on Sep 4, 2009 2:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

I am from western Marin

http://www.techgnosis.com/index_druid.html

Disclaimer: I really have no idea about any of the stuff discussed on that web page. It was just the first hit that came up when I googled “muir woods druid”.

by colin on Sep 4, 2009 2:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

I used to go to Pt. Reyes and Bolinas quite often

with my ex-wife.

Al: We gotta form a government for the settlement.
Merrick: Who does?
Al: Us! You and me. Come to me in a vision! You stupid bastard

by Leopold Bloom on Sep 4, 2009 2:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

also

as far as I can tell, that is the first link posted so far in the comments for this DLD.

Less chit-chat! Get to work people!

by colin on Sep 4, 2009 2:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

okay.

A bear!

A string!

A piece of cheese.

Al: We gotta form a government for the settlement.
Merrick: Who does?
Al: Us! You and me. Come to me in a vision! You stupid bastard

by Leopold Bloom on Sep 4, 2009 2:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

(1) Ain't no druid in the Fellowship.

(2) You can get a post-doc in cosmetology?

"Go ahead and overachieve, you scrappy Brett-Favre-colored walk-takers." —Rev Halofan

by iglew on Sep 4, 2009 10:31 PM PDT up reply actions  

yeah

we fit in somewhere between the astrology and phys-ed departments

by colin on Sep 5, 2009 10:23 AM PDT up reply actions  

Yes,

but it is a D&D class.

Al: We gotta form a government for the settlement.
Merrick: Who does?
Al: Us! You and me. Come to me in a vision! You stupid bastard

by Leopold Bloom on Sep 5, 2009 1:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah, well I have 4 motorcycles.

HAH. Masters Degree. Pfft!

"I’m Joey Devine, I’m what Joba Chamberlain would be if he was good and nobody had ever heard of him."

by mikev on Sep 4, 2009 2:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

ha, I can't even drive

and I’ve not showered yet today.

Who is the winner here? I think we know the answer

by bobnothing on Sep 4, 2009 2:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

oh, yeah, I meant to riff/rip on him too..

but I am sick and feverish.

Oh, and selling signs.

Al: We gotta form a government for the settlement.
Merrick: Who does?
Al: Us! You and me. Come to me in a vision! You stupid bastard

by Leopold Bloom on Sep 4, 2009 1:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

in Florida?

"I’m Joey Devine, I’m what Joba Chamberlain would be if he was good and nobody had ever heard of him."

by mikev on Sep 4, 2009 1:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

yes.

Al: We gotta form a government for the settlement.
Merrick: Who does?
Al: Us! You and me. Come to me in a vision! You stupid bastard

by Leopold Bloom on Sep 4, 2009 1:49 PM PDT up reply actions  

Its soooo close to the Chris Farley SNL skit,

kinda scary.

Hey, Raburn! YOU ever dive into the shallow end of a pool?--noava22

by lynnzgal on Sep 4, 2009 1:50 PM PDT up reply actions  

HEY BABY!

Where have you been!?

"I’m Joey Devine, I’m what Joba Chamberlain would be if he was good and nobody had ever heard of him."

by mikev on Sep 4, 2009 1:53 PM PDT up reply actions  

What do you mean?

I’ve been around here this week.

Hey, Raburn! YOU ever dive into the shallow end of a pool?--noava22

by lynnzgal on Sep 4, 2009 2:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

Today?

"I’m Joey Devine, I’m what Joba Chamberlain would be if he was good and nobody had ever heard of him."

by mikev on Sep 4, 2009 2:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

Well, not until just now,

but I’ve been working. That was pretty much over when I looked out the front door and realized we were the only ones on the street that were.

Hey, Raburn! YOU ever dive into the shallow end of a pool?--noava22

by lynnzgal on Sep 4, 2009 2:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

atta girl.

"I’m Joey Devine, I’m what Joba Chamberlain would be if he was good and nobody had ever heard of him."

by mikev on Sep 4, 2009 2:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

tell me about it.

Al: We gotta form a government for the settlement.
Merrick: Who does?
Al: Us! You and me. Come to me in a vision! You stupid bastard

by Leopold Bloom on Sep 4, 2009 1:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

about what

"I’m Joey Devine, I’m what Joba Chamberlain would be if he was good and nobody had ever heard of him."

by mikev on Sep 4, 2009 1:56 PM PDT up reply actions  

about my life being close to a Chris Farley skit.

Al: We gotta form a government for the settlement.
Merrick: Who does?
Al: Us! You and me. Come to me in a vision! You stupid bastard

by Leopold Bloom on Sep 4, 2009 2:31 PM PDT up reply actions  

agrd.

"I’m Joey Devine, I’m what Joba Chamberlain would be if he was good and nobody had ever heard of him."

by mikev on Sep 4, 2009 2:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

That's funny that the Bengals are a bad team

because in my 80s-fixated imagination they’re good. The first year I paid any attention at all to football (1981) the Bengals went to the Super Bowl. Then a few years later, when I was at the peak of my NFL-watching arc, they went again. That was the year of the Ickey shuffle. I think both Super Bowls were against the 49ers, too.

My NFL interest waned in the 1990s and the last year I paid any attention at all was the year before they switched to eight divisions, whenever that was.

"Go ahead and overachieve, you scrappy Brett-Favre-colored walk-takers." —Rev Halofan

by iglew on Sep 4, 2009 1:57 PM PDT reply actions  

theyt've been horrid for a long while now.

and you haven’t watched football in a long while, either.

Al: We gotta form a government for the settlement.
Merrick: Who does?
Al: Us! You and me. Come to me in a vision! You stupid bastard

by Leopold Bloom on Sep 4, 2009 2:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

It is time to admit this.

This will forever change how I am viewed by AN, especially Rated-R Superstar, but…I…am….a…Laker fan.

But wait! Wait, wait, wait, wait. Don’t leave me, delete me, call for my head.

I have been one for 35 years, before Kobe, befoe Shaq, before Magic, hell, before Kareem. And it’s my brother’s fault. Well, it’s actually my uncle’s fault. He converted my brother, and my brother converted me. My dad loathes me for it, I assure you.

I feel better now.

Well, not really.

I'm here to talk about the past.

by 67MARQUEZ on Sep 4, 2009 2:03 PM PDT reply actions  

It's like I don't even know you anymore.

"I’m Joey Devine, I’m what Joba Chamberlain would be if he was good and nobody had ever heard of him."

by mikev on Sep 4, 2009 2:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

{sigh}

I'm here to talk about the past.

by 67MARQUEZ on Sep 4, 2009 2:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

And basically i'ts just for following basketball at all

"I’m Joey Devine, I’m what Joba Chamberlain would be if he was good and nobody had ever heard of him."

by mikev on Sep 4, 2009 2:18 PM PDT up reply actions  

so do you remember the old SI article

“A Dream Come True…For McAdoo!” ? It was much better than when I found out that Magic had been doin’ the mess around.

These ain't your father's A's.

by ohtobe21likehuston on Sep 4, 2009 2:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

I honestly don't.

I will need to check it out.

I'm here to talk about the past.

by 67MARQUEZ on Sep 4, 2009 2:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

OK, I remember now.

God, that team was scary. Could easily have won 7 titles that decade, rather than 5.

I'm here to talk about the past.

by 67MARQUEZ on Sep 4, 2009 2:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

i loved the lakers of magic/kareem, plus chick hern (almost the same love i have for bill king). it seemed their style defined the lakers. of course, the style that defined the bulls put an end to all that fun. but remembering that team is exactly why i couldn’t stand the bryant/o’neal team. i once put it: it’s like being a fan of the cuban revolutionary guerillas and then they become the US navy.

i also liked the knicks of sprewell and camby, but that was just, you know, new york girlfriend stuff.

don't care if i ever get back.

by AV on Sep 5, 2009 10:26 AM PDT up reply actions  

why?

Al: We gotta form a government for the settlement.
Merrick: Who does?
Al: Us! You and me. Come to me in a vision! You stupid bastard

by Leopold Bloom on Sep 4, 2009 2:28 PM PDT up reply actions  

oh,,,trojans fan.

okay. I deserve it. I was unmerciful to your flock when Granny Lou was running things…

Al: We gotta form a government for the settlement.
Merrick: Who does?
Al: Us! You and me. Come to me in a vision! You stupid bastard

by Leopold Bloom on Sep 4, 2009 2:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

I was discussing this with an active Gators fan yesterday.

We honestly thought we had a chance at Urban Meyer. And our thinking was right on that front anyhow.

But Ty, and as much as I like the man , I have to be true, can’t coach worth a damn.

Al: We gotta form a government for the settlement.
Merrick: Who does?
Al: Us! You and me. Come to me in a vision! You stupid bastard

by Leopold Bloom on Sep 4, 2009 2:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

Every game except Oct. 3rd I'm a USC fan.

"I’m Joey Devine, I’m what Joba Chamberlain would be if he was good and nobody had ever heard of him."

by mikev on Sep 4, 2009 2:37 PM PDT up reply actions  

This should be good.

I'm here to talk about the past.

by 67MARQUEZ on Sep 4, 2009 2:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

That's what I was thinking.

"I’m Joey Devine, I’m what Joba Chamberlain would be if he was good and nobody had ever heard of him."

by mikev on Sep 4, 2009 2:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

We should chat.

"I’m Joey Devine, I’m what Joba Chamberlain would be if he was good and nobody had ever heard of him."

by mikev on Sep 4, 2009 2:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

Pretty certain no truer words have been spoken. Ever.

Unless it’s “Oh yes! Yes!”

I’ll be in the corner if anyone needs me.

I'm here to talk about the past.

by 67MARQUEZ on Sep 4, 2009 2:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

Well, there's 4 kinds of "satisfaction"

Positive: OH YES OH YES
Negative: OH NO OH ON
Religious: OH GOD OH GOD
Fake: OH 67M OH 67M

(love you man)

"I’m Joey Devine, I’m what Joba Chamberlain would be if he was good and nobody had ever heard of him."

by mikev on Sep 4, 2009 2:46 PM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

hehe

I'm here to talk about the past.

by 67MARQUEZ on Sep 4, 2009 3:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

"Heads I win, tails you lose"

In other words, make it work to your advantage regardless of outcome.

Sorry, I thought I was talking to Rated-R. Pretty sure you know what to do.

I'm here to talk about the past.

by 67MARQUEZ on Sep 4, 2009 2:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

I can spit game, remember?

"I’m Joey Devine, I’m what Joba Chamberlain would be if he was good and nobody had ever heard of him."

by mikev on Sep 4, 2009 2:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

lol. yes.

I'm here to talk about the past.

by 67MARQUEZ on Sep 4, 2009 3:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

So what kind of wager did you have in mind then?

"I’m Joey Devine, I’m what Joba Chamberlain would be if he was good and nobody had ever heard of him."

by mikev on Sep 4, 2009 2:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

So many options, perhaps I need some time to think.

I’m sure it will come to me. But right now, my credit cards are saying, “swipe me”!

by ZigFan31 on Sep 4, 2009 2:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

I don't get it.

"I’m Joey Devine, I’m what Joba Chamberlain would be if he was good and nobody had ever heard of him."

by mikev on Sep 4, 2009 2:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

Also keep in mind that I'm a guy.

That means I’m dumb. Usually, subtle hints don’t work. Hell, strong hints don’t. JUST SAY IT.

"I’m Joey Devine, I’m what Joba Chamberlain would be if he was good and nobody had ever heard of him."

by mikev on Sep 4, 2009 3:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

I would have though she was the one

with the Credit Card Reader and mikev with the card to “swipe”.

CuttheMullet, from "The Thread":
"Whenever I’m about to do something, I think "would an idiot do that?" and if they would, I do not do that thing."

by DMOAS on Sep 4, 2009 3:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

those were my thoughts

But maybe I’m just sick like that.

I'm here to talk about the past.

by 67MARQUEZ on Sep 4, 2009 4:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

Aren't we all?

CuttheMullet, from "The Thread":
"Whenever I’m about to do something, I think "would an idiot do that?" and if they would, I do not do that thing."

by DMOAS on Sep 4, 2009 4:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

I hope.

I'm here to talk about the past.

by 67MARQUEZ on Sep 4, 2009 4:28 PM PDT up reply actions  

I'm sorry, PT,

but a little monkey with fermented cabbage told me this.

Al: We gotta form a government for the settlement.
Merrick: Who does?
Al: Us! You and me. Come to me in a vision! You stupid bastard

by Leopold Bloom on Sep 4, 2009 2:57 PM PDT reply actions  

that's what I hear

my sister’s boyfriend just finished law school and wants a do-gooder public interest type job. But the big law firms have so little work to do that they are paying their hot shot recruits to take a year off from being the man and spend it fighting the man. Of course, this just ruins the job market for those who want to fight the man as a career.

by colin on Sep 4, 2009 3:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

Darn, not enough people will be getting 160K/ year jobs?!?!

WHAT ARE WE GONNA DO????

"I’m Joey Devine, I’m what Joba Chamberlain would be if he was good and nobody had ever heard of him."

by mikev on Sep 4, 2009 3:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

gonna be a lot of defaulting loans.

Al: We gotta form a government for the settlement.
Merrick: Who does?
Al: Us! You and me. Come to me in a vision! You stupid bastard

by Leopold Bloom on Sep 4, 2009 3:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

As if there aren't already

"I’m Joey Devine, I’m what Joba Chamberlain would be if he was good and nobody had ever heard of him."

by mikev on Sep 4, 2009 3:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

Thank goodness I've paid all mine off

College is getting so damn expensive and it really ticks me off. I was lucky in that my Dad helped me get through school but I still had to work full-time while taking a full load of classes and it made for a long few years.

I already have some investments set up to pay for my as of yet imaginary children’s college and I’m planning on winning the lotto a couple of times as well.

College shouldn’t be so damn expensive and we need to do something about it so middle class and poor kids have a chance to compete with the rich brats.

by sirbed on Sep 4, 2009 5:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

I'm in the middle of paying for a college education for my kid.

The debt is going to be staggering (actually it already is)!!! Good plan to be putting some away for your future progeny. I just pretend it’s not there and move forward with my life a la Scarlett O’Hara!

"Baseball is dull only to dull minds." Red Barber

by BERRYJO on Sep 4, 2009 5:19 PM PDT up reply actions  

I do that too,

but every so often the gov’t tracks me down and demands I pay them.

That makes me a sad panda.

Al: We gotta form a government for the settlement.
Merrick: Who does?
Al: Us! You and me. Come to me in a vision! You stupid bastard

by Leopold Bloom on Sep 4, 2009 5:31 PM PDT up reply actions  

Oh I'm paying....just selectively forgetting that we'll be doing this for some years to come.

Waiting for the day she’s done and can help!!!

"Baseball is dull only to dull minds." Red Barber

by BERRYJO on Sep 4, 2009 5:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

Break the chain, Bro.

Don’t save for your imaginary kids’ college education. You’ve seen how awful it is. Don’t enable it any further. It’s only our nationwide delusion that somehow it’s OK to “save for college” and dump a crapload of money into it that keeps the rotten system going.

"Go ahead and overachieve, you scrappy Brett-Favre-colored walk-takers." —Rev Halofan

by iglew on Sep 4, 2009 10:37 PM PDT up reply actions  

Oh iglew

It’s all well and good in theory to not enable the system by not saving for college but then all I would do is hurt my imaginary kids life by not being able to pay for their school.

Having a college education in our society gives you the best chance to have success and I know my college education changed my life for the better.

I just think state colleges especially should be cheaper but I still strongly support kids going to college.

I’d also like to see more trade schools get the funding they need as a lot of kids don’t want a liberal arts type education but want to learn a trade.

I have a hell of a lot of respect for the blue collar professions and they should be more valued by our country and having these trade schools would set a lot of kids on the path of a good career.

by sirbed on Sep 5, 2009 2:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

Among the college graduates I know,

the ones who got the most out of college are the ones who paid for it themselves.

Having it paid for you by Mom and Dad tends to encourage kids to be lackadaisical about it, with no sense of what their real education goals are, so they just goof off and don’t get their [your] money’s worth.

"Go ahead and overachieve, you scrappy Brett-Favre-colored walk-takers." —Rev Halofan

by iglew on Sep 5, 2009 6:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

You really hate higher education, don't you?

Al: We gotta form a government for the settlement.
Merrick: Who does?
Al: Us! You and me. Come to me in a vision! You stupid bastard

by Leopold Bloom on Sep 5, 2009 7:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

I like education just fine.

I hate the stupid and malignant system that has swallowed it up. I am gobsmacked by the cow-like passivity with which everyone says, “Gosh, it sure sucks that college is getting so expensive. Oh well, time to write another check.” You know, when a product is systematically overpriced like that, it’s a sure sign that the market is broken. How is it broken? Well, let’s see. It’s free-market economics 101 that you don’t spend money as rationally when someone else pays for it, but the idea that a student’s expenses should be paid by his parents is so ingrained that people who don’t even have kids yet are talking about starting a savings plan for an expense which is 18 years away at a minimum. Let kids pay for their own college. If it’s really worth it, the investment ought to pay off. And if student loans weren’t guaranteed to the banks by the government, you can bet the banks would make damn sure it’s a good investment. Which brings us to government subsidies. I can’t really pursue that without going CGV, but hello? Does subsidizing the demand for a product ever make the price go down? It’s not rocket science.

"Go ahead and overachieve, you scrappy Brett-Favre-colored walk-takers." —Rev Halofan

by iglew on Sep 6, 2009 2:38 AM PDT up reply actions  

but you also have expressed disgust and/or contempt

for higher education, not just the paying for it.

Al: We gotta form a government for the settlement.
Merrick: Who does?
Al: Us! You and me. Come to me in a vision! You stupid bastard

by Leopold Bloom on Sep 6, 2009 10:15 AM PDT up reply actions  

The product is bad because the market is bad.

If quality of your signs had little or no effect on the price you could charge for them, and if there was a large market of people buying signs regardless of whether they are functional, you and your competitors would probably make pretty shitty signs. It’s the same idea.

"Go ahead and overachieve, you scrappy Brett-Favre-colored walk-takers." —Rev Halofan

by iglew on Sep 6, 2009 1:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

what about if the higher institution pays for your education?

You’re literally taking the money right out of their hands.

Is that okay?

by cityplANner on Sep 7, 2009 9:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

No, quit immediately.

Al: We gotta form a government for the settlement.
Merrick: Who does?
Al: Us! You and me. Come to me in a vision! You stupid bastard

by Leopold Bloom on Sep 7, 2009 11:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

I love Andrew Sullivan

And not just for him being a positive role model for a publicly underrepresented part of society.

By which I mean the bald, of course.

by bobnothing on Sep 4, 2009 3:25 PM PDT up reply actions  

Bald men unite!

I read Sullivan as well he’s an interesting thinker. I never thought one of my favorite blogs would be written by a Gay,British conservative but I read the blog every morning and often during lunch and even when I don’t agree with him he still makes me think and I like that even though it makes my head hurt.

I just wish I could find a liberal I liked to read as much as Sullivan.

by sirbed on Sep 4, 2009 5:50 PM PDT up reply actions  

Bald AND hairy.

And a gay Catholic Thatcherite. That guy is some kind of stereotype-countering.

"Go ahead and overachieve, you scrappy Brett-Favre-colored walk-takers." —Rev Halofan

by iglew on Sep 4, 2009 10:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

That's an age-old pattern

A certain occupation gets a boost in demand. Education in the field has a long tail so it takes years for the supply to catch up. In the meantime, those few who are already trained are in high demand so they start raking in the bucks. Young folks who want to make a lot of money notice, so they sign up in droves, correcting the market imbalance, but then the long tail goes the other way and the field is glutted so suddenly a whole bunch of people are trained in a field where they can’t get a job. We saw the same thing with software engineers not too long ago.

If you’re picking a career because you want to get rich, you need to either read the trends and predict what the next generation’s undersupplied field will be, or else just be boring and pick a field where demand is steady but unremarkable.

Now if you’re planning to go to law school because you actually like the law and that’s what you want to do, more power to you. You’re in the same category as people who train to be teachers or artists. But if you’re planning to go to law school because you think you’ll get rich being a lawyer, you are doing the career equivalent of signing a past-his-prime veteran to an expensive, multi-year contract.

"Go ahead and overachieve, you scrappy Brett-Favre-colored walk-takers." —Rev Halofan

by iglew on Sep 4, 2009 11:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

Speaking of "comforted in the arms of another"

Is it wrong that I watched back-to-back-to-back old episodes of the $25,000 Pyramid last night? No other game show final round was more intense. Well that’s my opinion.

I'm here to talk about the past.

by 67MARQUEZ on Sep 4, 2009 3:30 PM PDT reply actions  

I love old game shows.

Al: We gotta form a government for the settlement.
Merrick: Who does?
Al: Us! You and me. Come to me in a vision! You stupid bastard

by Leopold Bloom on Sep 4, 2009 3:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

Dick Clark: "Ready, Go!"

Clue giver: “Rawr”
Clue receiver: “What an ANer might say.”

Clue giver: “Rawr”
Clue receiver: “What Leopold Bloom might say.”

Clue giver: “Big ass grill”
Clue receiver: “Something George Foreman would say.”

Clue giver: “Gymnastics”
Clue receiver: “Things mikev says.”

Clue giver: “NEXT!”

I’m bored. And tired.

I'm here to talk about the past.

by 67MARQUEZ on Sep 4, 2009 4:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

That WAS an awesome show

and a great final round. The latest craptastic version took the worst parts of $25,000 pyramid and worst parts of password (of which there weren’t many for either) and merged them together to make one horrifically unwatchable show.

CuttheMullet, from "The Thread":
"Whenever I’m about to do something, I think "would an idiot do that?" and if they would, I do not do that thing."

by DMOAS on Sep 4, 2009 4:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

plus there's the whole Donny Osmond thing.

Al: We gotta form a government for the settlement.
Merrick: Who does?
Al: Us! You and me. Come to me in a vision! You stupid bastard

by Leopold Bloom on Sep 4, 2009 5:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

I was thinking of the one with Regis (which is bad enough)

but damn, that version is fugly too.

CuttheMullet, from "The Thread":
"Whenever I’m about to do something, I think "would an idiot do that?" and if they would, I do not do that thing."

by DMOAS on Sep 4, 2009 6:19 PM PDT up reply actions  

That was awesome.

"I’m Joey Devine, I’m what Joba Chamberlain would be if he was good and nobody had ever heard of him."

by mikev on Sep 5, 2009 9:16 AM PDT up reply actions  

Yes, it was.

and I’m sorry I failed to acknowledge it earlier. Must’ve been the fever.

Al: We gotta form a government for the settlement.
Merrick: Who does?
Al: Us! You and me. Come to me in a vision! You stupid bastard

by Leopold Bloom on Sep 5, 2009 1:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

Tic-Tac-Dough baby!

 and I liked Press your luck back in the dark ages known as the 80’s.“No whammy,no whammy oh darn it whammy!” and I like Jeopardy as it makes me feel real dumb.

by sirbed on Sep 4, 2009 6:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

Match Game

"And Julio Franco is batting right-handed!" -- Wayne Hagin, A's radio play-by-play, mid-80s

by Nick on Sep 4, 2009 6:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

I root for the Raiders because my Dad brainwashed me at birth

There are baby pictures of me with a silver and black football. I picked the A’s because we went to a game in 1981 and I feel in love with Rickey and the Kings are my team because Sacramento is my hometown.

I spent thousands of dollars at KU getting a couple pieces of paper so I root for the Jayhawks.

I couldn’t imagine rooting for any other teams and in fact I hate a lot of them. When I played pop warner football I got drafted to play on a team called the Broncos and I refused to go. I held out until they put me on the Dolphins.

I’m passionate about the A’s although they don’t have great rivals like the Giants have with the Dodgers or the Sox and the Yanks but I flat out hate more then anything on earth the rest of the teams in the AFC West and I am kind of crazy man during Raider games.

My girlfriend who likes football(Thank God) grew up a Cowboys fan but I’ve turned her to the darkside and made her a Raiders fan (grounds for a future divorce?) and I’ve already said when we have a kid he or she can pick whatever political party they want choose whichever faith they want and live life the way they see fit but they will be a Raider fan if they want me to pay for their college.

by sirbed on Sep 4, 2009 4:58 PM PDT reply actions  

Pretty happy to see only one person in the poll went with the Giants.

The Giants love recently has gotten pretty ridiculous, IMO. I can’t stand them. I do, however, root for the Twins and the Royals. The Twins are awesome because they are also a small market team, and I root for the Royals becuase I honestly feel so badly for them. I always root for my A’s though.

Founding member of the Eric Patterson fan club.

by travdog6 on Sep 4, 2009 5:11 PM PDT reply actions  

I agree with all of this.

Al: We gotta form a government for the settlement.
Merrick: Who does?
Al: Us! You and me. Come to me in a vision! You stupid bastard

by Leopold Bloom on Sep 4, 2009 5:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

Agreed.

It really pisses me off to come to AN and see conversations about the Giants. What does a guy do if he lives in the bay area, loves talking sports with people, but hates the Giants? Radio sure as hell isn’t an option.

And the whole Kung Fu Panda thing REALLY pisses me off, because I actually like pandas, and now every time I mention pandas to someone, I find myself in a conversation about bad infielders AND accused of starting said conversation!!

AAAAARRGH!!

< takes chill pill >

Sigh.

by oblique on Sep 4, 2009 5:55 PM PDT up reply actions  

I noticed the radio station that broadcasts the A's games is now a new "Sports Juggarnaut" in the bay area.

It will be interesting to see if we can get some non-biased sports reporting here!

"Baseball is dull only to dull minds." Red Barber

by BERRYJO on Sep 4, 2009 5:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

but do they do reporting? all i hear on that station, besides A’s games, are nationally syndicated shows that come with the typical nationally syndicated bias. please turn me onto any local show on that station.

don't care if i ever get back.

by AV on Sep 5, 2009 10:29 AM PDT up reply actions  

I haven't listened much....there is a guy that is screaming during my drive home

so I turn it off!! I was just hoping it’d be more local stuff. Maybe not.

"Baseball is dull only to dull minds." Red Barber

by BERRYJO on Sep 5, 2009 4:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

All of this and travdog6's and more

CuttheMullet, from "The Thread":
"Whenever I’m about to do something, I think "would an idiot do that?" and if they would, I do not do that thing."

by DMOAS on Sep 4, 2009 6:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

Here's some interesting/disturbing news

While searching for Rally Lauren pics tonight, I stumbled upon this:

George Hearn went from playing Sweeney Todd to a drag queen, and so can Johnny Depp. Depp has surprised and intrigued interviewers recently by revealing that his dream role is to play Broadway legend Carol Channing in a biopic of her life. Channing has already responded to the news with her blessing, noting that most if not all of her impersonators have been men.

Source: http://tiny.cc/J0Ws6

Al: We gotta form a government for the settlement.
Merrick: Who does?
Al: Us! You and me. Come to me in a vision! You stupid bastard

by Leopold Bloom on Sep 4, 2009 9:41 PM PDT reply actions  

I actually like Johnny Depp, but

I marvel at the thought that he could play Todd. Does he even remotely have the voice for that role? No, he does not.

Or was the movie a non-singing version?

Johnny Depp as Carol Channing would be giant rainbows of awesome, though.

"Go ahead and overachieve, you scrappy Brett-Favre-colored walk-takers." —Rev Halofan

by iglew on Sep 4, 2009 10:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

On a parallel topic, I recently read that

Fergie is going to play Saraghina in an upcoming movie production of Nine. OK, I know nothing of Fergie except that she’s some pop star singer, so I naturally assume she’s got some candy-ass little pipsqueak voice like most of the pop stars, but I don’t actually know this. There’s even YouTubes of her doing the song but so far I haven’t dared to try them.

So someone who understands where I’m coming from, please tell me: Am I going to be pleasantly surprised with this Fergie and discover that she’s got real balls, or am I going to be horrified that they desecrated a fantastic score by putting some skinny top-40 twerp in one of the greatest Broadway cameo roles of all time?

By the way, Kathi Moss rocks the shit out of that scene (which is strangely evocative of the education of Rated-R Superstar on the AN game threads).

"Go ahead and overachieve, you scrappy Brett-Favre-colored walk-takers." —Rev Halofan

by iglew on Sep 4, 2009 11:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

Johnny Depp sang, and he did a pretty good job at it.

Al: We gotta form a government for the settlement.
Merrick: Who does?
Al: Us! You and me. Come to me in a vision! You stupid bastard

by Leopold Bloom on Sep 5, 2009 1:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

Hmmm, I guess I've always heard the role

with a deep rumbling basso, and it’s hard for me to imagine Depp being that.

"Go ahead and overachieve, you scrappy Brett-Favre-colored walk-takers." —Rev Halofan

by iglew on Sep 5, 2009 1:53 PM PDT up reply actions  

he tries, anyhow.

the muttonchops help.

Al: We gotta form a government for the settlement.
Merrick: Who does?
Al: Us! You and me. Come to me in a vision! You stupid bastard

by Leopold Bloom on Sep 5, 2009 3:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

I love that movie.

But then again, I like musicals AND Johnny Depp.

by LoneStranger on Sep 5, 2009 3:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

You're a Bengals fan?

You really are a glutton for punishment, LB.

Also, I really wish I had some sort of reason for getting excited for college football season. I’m jealous of all you people who went to good football schools!

Rickey Henderson's strike zone is "smaller than Hitler's heart." - Jim Murray

by JLaff on Sep 5, 2009 8:43 AM PDT reply actions  

I am a man of constant sorrow.

Al: We gotta form a government for the settlement.
Merrick: Who does?
Al: Us! You and me. Come to me in a vision! You stupid bastard

by Leopold Bloom on Sep 5, 2009 1:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

sadly

The highlight of my college’s season last year was almost beating notre dame in the opener.

Rickey Henderson's strike zone is "smaller than Hitler's heart." - Jim Murray

by JLaff on Sep 5, 2009 3:15 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions  

other teams other games

i’m worried sick about today’s argentina/brazil world cup qualifier. argentina is on the cusp of knocking itself out of contention (not necessarily in today’s game, but it’s been on a downward track since the 6-0 in bolivia). brazil isn’t a particularly scary team right now but they do have winful ways. and argentina does have superb talent, but i have zero confidence in the coach, who was a great intuitive/inventive player once but now he’s just a press-conference jockey and a strategist not a all. add to that argentina’s pathological knack for not paying attention during the last 5 minutes of games against brazil. yeah, this could be ugly. starting today at 5:30 west coast.

(if you have cable and were going to watch it, oh hit me up… i’ll bring some empanadas or something.)

don't care if i ever get back.

by AV on Sep 5, 2009 10:47 AM PDT reply actions  

I'm late to the party, but I don't think anyone should complain about being a Notre Dame fan

There’s no way that program won’t be back, the boosters won’t allow it. I went to Texas, and even when we were lousy I always knew that one day we’d win another championship. And so we did.

Re baseball I’m a fan of the Giants and the Royals, the Royals because they were my team when I was a kid, and the Giants because they’re local and I have Giants fans in the family. I have a lot of love to give…

Oh and you want anguish? Be a fan of Belgian cycler/cokehead Tom Boonen!

I care about your fantasy team.

by stormtown on Sep 5, 2009 12:30 PM PDT reply actions  

Bengals fan works just fine, thank you.

Al: We gotta form a government for the settlement.
Merrick: Who does?
Al: Us! You and me. Come to me in a vision! You stupid bastard

by Leopold Bloom on Sep 5, 2009 1:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

If I'm reading your userid page right,

that was your 20,000th comment.

For those who are into milestones, yknow.

"Go ahead and overachieve, you scrappy Brett-Favre-colored walk-takers." —Rev Halofan

by iglew on Sep 5, 2009 2:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

woohoo!

so I see Nico for my prize, right?

Al: We gotta form a government for the settlement.
Merrick: Who does?
Al: Us! You and me. Come to me in a vision! You stupid bastard

by Leopold Bloom on Sep 5, 2009 3:18 PM PDT up reply actions  

I'm only 17,000 behind

I plan on catching up by the end of tonight’s game.

by sirbed on Sep 5, 2009 4:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

dream big, brother. Dream big.

Al: We gotta form a government for the settlement.
Merrick: Who does?
Al: Us! You and me. Come to me in a vision! You stupid bastard

by Leopold Bloom on Sep 5, 2009 4:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

Didn’t expect to find the A’s front and center on the Arizona Republic website this morning.

Phoenix Mayor Phil Gordon is digging in to protect the city’s turf after an apparent overture to lure the Oakland Athletics from Phoenix to the Salt River Reservation east of Scottsdale.

I wish Oakland’s government responded like this.

by GoAs on Sep 5, 2009 2:46 PM PDT reply actions  

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