Holy Toledo! Down 9-2, The Amazing A's Come Back To Win Crazy Game 15-10
by Nico on Sep 26, 2009 10:11 PM PDT
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That headline changed about seven times throughout the course of this bizarre, often frustrating, ultimately exhilarating mess of a game. Walk with me down memory lane...
Taking things in chronological order, I have to start by saying that Dana Eveland is truly terrible at baseball. He may be good at other things -- basket-weaving, photography, goatherding -- but pitching? He's just not good at it. And tonight, after being staked to a 2-0 lead on Kurt Suzuki's 1st inning HR, Eveland should have been staked to something so he couldn't go to the mound. His defense didn't help and the umpires didn't help, but still...He's just bad, and by the 4th inning Eveland was gone and the Angels led 9-2.
The next thing you need to know is that these umpires are really bad at seeing. In the bottom of the 1st, second base umpire Greg Gibson decided that Cliff Pennington had missed 2B on a 4-6-3 DP attempt in which both runners were called safe. It's called the "neighborhood play" and to call otherwise was arguably somewhere between the worst call of the season and the 2nd worst call of the evening. Vying for that honor was Pennington being called out at the plate in the 2nd when he tried to dash home on a missed cutoff throw and replays showed that he was safe.
Anyhoo, all water under the bridge because the A's, buoyed by Jack Cust's 3-run HR, 3 more hits from Kennedy, 4 hits from the red-hot Daric Barton, a 6 run 7th inning capped by Mark Ellis' 3-run bomb, and 19 hits overall, came roaring back to win their 16th out of 20 -- and serve notice to the Angels that 2010 is not decided just yet.
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There's no crying in baseball!
by gigglingone on Sep 26, 2009 10:15 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
es bueno, no?
where was all this drive and hitting like stuff back in April & May?!
Rickey has spoken. Keep the Athletics in Bump City.
by LeSaboteur on Sep 26, 2009 11:51 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Holy Toledo
The A’s come roaring back to win… As Bill King once said after another miracle A’s comeback: “like Lazarus rising from the dead”
(actual quote on the radio)
by OaklandSi on Sep 26, 2009 10:14 PM PDT via mobile reply actions 0 recs
The Lazarus line was awesome.
End of the 2005 season, wasn’t it?
"Go ahead and overachieve, you scrappy Brett-Favre-colored walk-takers." —Rev Halofan
by iglew on Sep 26, 2009 10:48 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'll guarantee you it wasn't any later. :-(
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
by Nico on Sep 26, 2009 10:49 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Has he been gone that long?
Now I think I must be wrong. It wasn’t the end of his career.
"Go ahead and overachieve, you scrappy Brett-Favre-colored walk-takers." —Rev Halofan
by iglew on Sep 26, 2009 10:50 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
He died shortly after the 2005 season ended.
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
by Nico on Sep 26, 2009 10:53 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Oh. I'm definitely wrong then.
"Go ahead and overachieve, you scrappy Brett-Favre-colored walk-takers." —Rev Halofan
by iglew on Sep 26, 2009 10:53 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Not sure
It was a September game against the Mariners at the coliseum. The A’s were down something like 9 runs going into the ninth inning, then the A’s tied it and won in extra innings.
by OaklandSi on Sep 26, 2009 10:57 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
IIRC, Chavez had a big double to tie or give the A's the lead in that game
One of his many clutch hits in a career in which he was never clutch.
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
by Nico on Sep 26, 2009 10:58 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hmm, I can't find anything like that.
I wish I knew a better way to search.
"Go ahead and overachieve, you scrappy Brett-Favre-colored walk-takers." —Rev Halofan
by iglew on Sep 26, 2009 11:31 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well, there's this.
http://www.baseball-reference.com/boxes/OAK/OAK200509070.shtml
Seems to fit the bill. Chavez double to tie it, a couple batters later, Swisher got a bases-loaded walk to win it.
Please remedy my confusion
and thrust me back to the day.
The silence of your seclusion
brings night into all you say.
by danmerqury on Sep 26, 2009 11:40 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
You beat me.
I just found that game, too. No extra innings, only four runs behind going into the 9th, and Chavvy’s double neither tied nor took the lead. But other than that it’s a match: end of 2005 season, hosting Seattle, clutch double in the 9th by Chavez.
"Go ahead and overachieve, you scrappy Brett-Favre-colored walk-takers." —Rev Halofan
by iglew on Sep 26, 2009 11:50 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Oops, I read the chart wrong.
Chavvy’s double did tie it. Well, there you go.
"Go ahead and overachieve, you scrappy Brett-Favre-colored walk-takers." —Rev Halofan
by iglew on Sep 26, 2009 11:50 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
That's the one.
It was definitely the Mariners.
"PECOTA can pretty much kiss my ass."-Nico
by jeepers on Sep 27, 2009 7:51 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Holy Toledo is right!
Most fun game in a while.
Please remedy my confusion
and thrust me back to the day.
The silence of your seclusion
brings night into all you say.
by danmerqury on Sep 26, 2009 10:14 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Bill King is smiling
and wants more Holy Toledo’s in 2010.
by Trainman on Sep 26, 2009 10:17 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Holy Toledo
is the name of my cat.
"Flea Markets aren't just for blind dates anymore!"- The Reverend Billy Lard
by Gaijin_Suketto on Sep 27, 2009 12:30 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Also, Rajai is worrying me now.
PLZ DON’T END NOW.
by ElQuesoCapitan on Sep 26, 2009 10:14 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
what about sweeney in CF and Buck in RF??
"Baseball is dull only to dull minds." Red Barber
by BERRYJO on Sep 26, 2009 10:16 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
then we have a dead gap in LF
by ElQuesoCapitan on Sep 26, 2009 10:17 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
who should play there....
take out ePat and play tBuck?
"Baseball is dull only to dull minds." Red Barber
by BERRYJO on Sep 26, 2009 10:24 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
We need EPat's arm out there.
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
by Nico on Sep 26, 2009 10:25 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
have you seen his arm?
its missing
by Future Ed on Sep 26, 2009 10:26 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
What a weapon that is.
He can throw a football 80 yards on his knees.
Unfortunately, baseballs are ten times heavier.
Please remedy my confusion
and thrust me back to the day.
The silence of your seclusion
brings night into all you say.
by danmerqury on Sep 26, 2009 10:27 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
He’s still hitting .374 this month and about .345 since the break.
The Ultimate Opportunist
by Rated-R Superstar on Sep 26, 2009 10:19 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sweet win
I can’t decide if this team is just a bizarre fluke or if they’re actually good.
Any win over the Orange County ballbags qualifies as sweet. That was fun.
by coffee roaster on Sep 26, 2009 10:15 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I vote Dana Eveland for goatherder!
There is no A in OFFENSE!!
by wacchampions on Sep 26, 2009 10:15 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I vote Dana Eveland off the roster
for 2010.
Even the janitor for the Chronicle sees this as well as anyone residing in state mental institutions.
by Trainman on Sep 26, 2009 10:18 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
i vote dana eveland off
the island team
"Do I talk to myself? No, I just remind myself of what I'm trying to do. You know, I never answer myself so how can I be talking to myself?" - Rickey
by cuppingmaster on Sep 26, 2009 10:18 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
no, you had it right the first time...
make ’im walk the plank!
"Flea Markets aren't just for blind dates anymore!"- The Reverend Billy Lard
by Gaijin_Suketto on Sep 27, 2009 12:33 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
FP....LOL...Just said..AK clearly safe at second....
There is no A in OFFENSE!!
by wacchampions on Sep 26, 2009 10:16 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Yes. 2009, sadly, is pretty much decided.
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
by Nico on Sep 26, 2009 10:17 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Lies. We're going to win it all.
Some motherfcukers are always trying to ice skate uphill - Blade.
by OldhamA on Sep 26, 2009 10:18 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
imagine if....
MLB had something like the NBA where everyone has a shot in the playoffs?? We’d be a shoo-in for sure!!
by mikeprooo on Sep 26, 2009 10:21 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
where half the teams make it?
that waters down the playoffs, IMO
"Do I talk to myself? No, I just remind myself of what I'm trying to do. You know, I never answer myself so how can I be talking to myself?" - Rickey
by cuppingmaster on Sep 26, 2009 10:22 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
very true...
But the hottest team right now and the playoffs being a “crapshoot” and all….
by mikeprooo on Sep 26, 2009 10:24 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
the warriors also won 48 games or something in 07-08 and didn't make the playoffs
which in NBA terms is normally the 6th seed. so there’s isn’t entirely fair either.
"Do I talk to myself? No, I just remind myself of what I'm trying to do. You know, I never answer myself so how can I be talking to myself?" - Rickey
by cuppingmaster on Sep 26, 2009 10:32 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
No system is not entirely fair
There have been plenty of years where sub 40 win teams have made the NBA playoffs. Many example of this in the 80’s, but the best example is the 2nd year Michael Jordan was with the Bulls. That year, and mostly cuz he was hurt, they were 30-52. It’s a little known fact, but MJ has never played on a + 500 team without Scottie Pippen on it.
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
by pookeyguru on Sep 26, 2009 10:35 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Here is
B-Ref if you dont’ believe me.
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
by pookeyguru on Sep 26, 2009 10:37 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
And since i'm on this tangent (and have now replied to myself twice)
I suppose comparing basketball to baseball or vice versa doesn’t have much purpose. I have to see a perfect system that works 100% of the time in anything let alone playoff format’s.
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
by pookeyguru on Sep 26, 2009 10:43 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I have yet to see^
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
by pookeyguru on Sep 26, 2009 10:43 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I got ya...
And while I think the A’s are playing very good ball right now and are probably somehow a better team than the Angels at the moment and probably have a decent chance to beat anyone….I havent drunk that much of the “kool-aid” to believe they arent much better than their record indicates and yes, I too believe that the MLB playoff system is way too long….
In a nutshell…this season is too little, too late….
by mikeprooo on Sep 26, 2009 10:49 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
MLB currently has 2 rounds before the World Series
The NBA has had 3 series BEFORE the Finals for almost 30 years now. The difference is season length, obviously, and I think that’s great.
I like the current format in every sport as I think it optimizes the best of what needs to happen in each sport and demands the best to win in each format.
That’s me though.
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
by pookeyguru on Sep 26, 2009 10:51 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Of course the NBA season is also too long.
There is no "i" in Teamocil. At least not where you'd think.
by GreenNGoldSooner on Sep 27, 2009 5:49 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
What they should do is
never schedule teams to play back-to-back games. Each team should have at least a day of rest before playing their next game, even on the road.
That won’t happen, but i’d like to see it.
Warriors, Stupidest franchise in the league.
"It takes a special kind of anti-mojo for a team to miss the playoffs 14 out of 15 seasons. Like, say, the Warriors under Chris Cohan."
by kenntoe on Sep 27, 2009 12:01 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I heard the radio guys talking about the playoff schedule
it has most games with a day of between each. How funky is that. It’s a TV schedule I’m sure……but very odd. Not at all like their season’s daily grind.
"Baseball is dull only to dull minds." Red Barber
by BERRYJO on Sep 26, 2009 10:51 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
That is funky Berry
It should be 5 games & 7 games straight in every series.
It’s not like these guys don’t play 20 days in a row or anything all the time during the season and what not.
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
by pookeyguru on Sep 26, 2009 10:53 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
It may be that this sched. is for the first series only....
but still.
"Baseball is dull only to dull minds." Red Barber
by BERRYJO on Sep 26, 2009 10:55 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah but still does say it all....
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
by pookeyguru on Sep 26, 2009 10:56 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I heard somthing earlier that...
The networks were having a conundrum about whether to televise a MLB playoff game or monday night football….national pastime???
by mikeprooo on Sep 26, 2009 10:53 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yet best record
CANNOT11 determine home field advantage. That would be too complicated
by Future Ed on Sep 26, 2009 10:55 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
LOL
Baseball has too many stupid rules.
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
by pookeyguru on Sep 26, 2009 10:55 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Who cares??
Play em both and let the FANS decide what they want to watch.
"Baseball is dull only to dull minds." Red Barber
by BERRYJO on Sep 26, 2009 10:56 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
+1
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
by pookeyguru on Sep 26, 2009 10:56 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
If it comes to the crunch MNF would probably win out.
Some motherfcukers are always trying to ice skate uphill - Blade.
by OldhamA on Sep 26, 2009 11:50 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
What is a "perfect system"?
What is your standard when you say “works 100% of the time”? That the better team always wins?
Playoff series would be boring if the better team always wins. Most of the time there would be no point in playing the game because we’d already know who the better team is.
The uncertainty element is essential feature to any sports playoff working, and a necessary byproduct of that feature is that the underdog will sometimes win.
"Go ahead and overachieve, you scrappy Brett-Favre-colored walk-takers." —Rev Halofan
by iglew on Sep 26, 2009 10:53 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm not sure what your point is?
I wasn’t talking about who won playoff series, or anything else. I was simply pointing out that no system is 100% perfect in anything.
How is that anything but stating the absolute obvious?
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
by pookeyguru on Sep 26, 2009 10:54 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Some people cite it as evidence of a flaw
in playoffs if an inferior team wins the championship. I thought you were making that argument.
If you weren’t, my bad.
"Go ahead and overachieve, you scrappy Brett-Favre-colored walk-takers." —Rev Halofan
by iglew on Sep 26, 2009 10:57 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
No
But I’ve seen many people make that pointless argument with regards to the NBA. The reality is that the best player on the other team will almost always will the games for their team.
It’s very different in baseball, and I enjoy that too.
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
by pookeyguru on Sep 26, 2009 10:58 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think the best system
allows the team that is best in that series to win. But if baseball is played with a 5-man rotation and suddenly a team gets to use only its top 3, then it punishes teams with deeper / more balanced rotations in a way that’s kind of odd.
Personally, I like rules that force teams to use all their players, where the “25th man” plays a role along with “the star.”
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
by Nico on Sep 26, 2009 10:57 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Would you be in favor of each series being best 5 of 7?
"Baseball is dull only to dull minds." Red Barber
by BERRYJO on Sep 26, 2009 10:58 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
That sounds mathematically impossible
If the series is tied 3-3, then both teams are eliminated?
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
by Nico on Sep 26, 2009 10:59 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
God Bless Typos
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
by pookeyguru on Sep 26, 2009 11:00 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
OOPS
I think I meant 4 of 7
"Baseball is dull only to dull minds." Red Barber
by BERRYJO on Sep 26, 2009 11:02 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
And that's why the BCS exists.
So that there’s one (non-)playoff system that all actually sentient beings can agree sucks.
There is no "i" in Teamocil. At least not where you'd think.
by GreenNGoldSooner on Sep 27, 2009 5:48 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I liked how college football was before
they did that. There wasn’t a championship at all. The teams just played their regular season, and the bowl games were just regional bonus games.
I don’t understand the fetish to determine an overall winner. If some people think Nebraska was best and some people think Penn State was best and both were undefeated on the season, why is that a problem?
"Go ahead and overachieve, you scrappy Brett-Favre-colored walk-takers." —Rev Halofan
by iglew on Sep 27, 2009 10:05 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
The shoo is on the other foot
by OaklandSi on Sep 26, 2009 10:58 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
Cheer up
It hasn’t been decided til it is, and meanwhile the A’s are incredibly fun
by OaklandSi on Sep 26, 2009 10:20 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
We are decidely not playing more than seven more games
we will be playing another 162 in 2010
by chillicothe20 on Sep 26, 2009 10:21 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Perhaps my original post wasn't clear
I questioned 2010 because I thought the message was that the slegnA didn’t have it in the bag in 2009 until they actually win the division. I’m expecting them to do it barring a historic collapse, but I thought Nico was trying to say that the A’s win Saturday should remind the first place slegnA that they haven’t done it yet.
by OaklandSi on Sep 27, 2009 8:18 AM PDT via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
If the A's win today
the Angel fans can party like it was 1995
by Future Ed on Sep 27, 2009 8:20 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I love this new A's team!
Who needs a bunch of over priced FAs.. these kids are playing like there’s no tomorrow. Looking fwd to seeing this team compete in 2010.
by sf drift king on Sep 26, 2009 10:18 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I love this.
Our offense actually got more than 1.000 points of collective WPA. And Kurt Suzuki (.484) did almost enough to win it singlehandedly.
Please remedy my confusion
and thrust me back to the day.
The silence of your seclusion
brings night into all you say.
by danmerqury on Sep 26, 2009 10:18 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
http://www.fangraphs.com/livewins.aspx?gameid=290926103
Please remedy my confusion
and thrust me back to the day.
The silence of your seclusion
brings night into all you say.
by danmerqury on Sep 26, 2009 10:22 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Win
Last of the Ninth - Photography
by Flashfire on Sep 26, 2009 10:30 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I love how the davis and sweeney strikeouts totally reverted the gains of the pennington double and Kennedey walk
by Future Ed on Sep 26, 2009 10:41 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Could we stash some of these wins for 2010.
Don’t waste them all now!
by chillicothe20 on Sep 26, 2009 10:18 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Something earlier made me think of..
The game on a Sunday in May against the Mariners….you know which one…for me that was one of the most antagonizing games to listen to….You see, I was driving home from Seattle to Spokane that afternoon, and got to listen to the ENTIRE game!! (closer fail from Springer, 100 pitch relef from Gio, comple fail from Eveland)…I think it was just yesterday that this occurred to me that this is a completely different A’s ballclub!!!!! That seemed like a totally different season….
by mikeprooo on Sep 26, 2009 10:19 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
That was the 2009 that Nico said
Has sadly already bee decided.
This is a different 2009!
by OaklandSi on Sep 26, 2009 10:23 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
Too bad they don't do first half/second half like the California League.
by LoneStranger on Sep 26, 2009 10:29 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I love that system
Everyone gets a “do-over” and you’re never out of the race for more than 1/2 a season.
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
by Nico on Sep 26, 2009 10:36 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I was there!
SO INCREDIBLY FRUSTRATING! What a long ass drive home to Portland! Here’s something cool! We’re only 5 games behind the M’s and climbing out of the cellar! I would love finishing the season ahead of them! They’re announcers are so smug. I hate that guy who does the before and after game stuff who looks like Frankenstein. Huge head man! Anyway, great game, fun team! Go A’s!
"I'm not bad, I'm just drawn that way." -Jessica Rabbit
by A'sfansince1970 on Sep 26, 2009 11:22 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Beating the slegnA is like worth 10 wins in my book
We should have like 105 wins, this being the case.
by Trainman on Sep 26, 2009 10:19 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Which team do you think will win the central?
In the battle of the strong, victory goes to the brave.
by javaball on Sep 26, 2009 10:21 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Cardinals.
The Ultimate Opportunist
by Rated-R Superstar on Sep 26, 2009 10:22 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
considering they did already
then i agree with this assessment
"Do I talk to myself? No, I just remind myself of what I'm trying to do. You know, I never answer myself so how can I be talking to myself?" - Rickey
by cuppingmaster on Sep 26, 2009 10:23 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
For the American League Central title, I’ll go with the Tigers by a game.
The Ultimate Opportunist
by Rated-R Superstar on Sep 26, 2009 10:26 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
i also agree
no Twinkie magic this year. Neither are really good, but the Tigers have fewer holes, especially now with Morneau out
"Do I talk to myself? No, I just remind myself of what I'm trying to do. You know, I never answer myself so how can I be talking to myself?" - Rickey
by cuppingmaster on Sep 26, 2009 10:30 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Twins have been consistently good these past few years.
Lots of Twins players are hitting well now, and they don’t seem to be missing Mormeau at all. I remember back in 2006 the Tigers wasted a huge lead, and lost the division to Twins on the last day of the season.
In the battle of the strong, victory goes to the brave.
by javaball on Sep 26, 2009 10:34 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
yeah cuddyer has really stepped it up
but i still don’t know about them. like RRS said, Tigers by a game (or two) probably.
"Do I talk to myself? No, I just remind myself of what I'm trying to do. You know, I never answer myself so how can I be talking to myself?" - Rickey
by cuppingmaster on Sep 26, 2009 10:36 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
holy shit
they just read my email.
by sf drift king on Sep 26, 2009 10:22 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
which one??
"Baseball is dull only to dull minds." Red Barber
by BERRYJO on Sep 26, 2009 10:22 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Gasp -- did they hack in?
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
by Nico on Sep 26, 2009 10:23 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
lol
I just got that – i know, I’m a little slow.
by sf drift king on Sep 26, 2009 10:26 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
They just did mine too...
There is no A in OFFENSE!!
by wacchampions on Sep 26, 2009 10:23 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I asked about the umpires
There is no A in OFFENSE!!
by wacchampions on Sep 26, 2009 10:25 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Before this game started I was thinking it was time for a Lackey loss against us.
The law of averages would seem to suggest a pitcher that has had so many wins against us will eventually lose. Of course – the way in which we won was totally unforseeable. The fangraph just posted above says it all…..we had to climb the mountain. We did so in fantastic fashion. I don’t even know as I post this if Lackey even took the loss. That part doesn’t matter.
This was a great game where our guys NEVER gave up. I ♥ this. Great Game – Great Win!!!
"Baseball is dull only to dull minds." Red Barber
by BERRYJO on Sep 26, 2009 10:22 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Jepsen took the loss
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
by pookeyguru on Sep 26, 2009 10:23 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Looks like Lone Star Ball had a makeshift LAA-OAK game thread as well.
http://www.lonestarball.com/2009/9/26/1056544/85-69
Please remedy my confusion
and thrust me back to the day.
The silence of your seclusion
brings night into all you say.
by danmerqury on Sep 26, 2009 10:23 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
thanks btw.
win one more tomorrow, please?
I'm just goofin' new boot goofin'
by iorange555 on Sep 26, 2009 10:23 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I can't post on Lone Star Ball (24 hr waiting period)
But damn, I would absolutely love to see you guys stick it to the Angels and win the division.
Please remedy my confusion
and thrust me back to the day.
The silence of your seclusion
brings night into all you say.
by danmerqury on Sep 26, 2009 10:26 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
What if you don't like the Angels OR Rangers?
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
by pookeyguru on Sep 26, 2009 10:29 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't like either either....
…but I dislike the Rangers a lot less than I dislike the slegnA.
Hook ’em/Gig ’em, Rangers! (or whatever they say)
There is no "i" in Teamocil. At least not where you'd think.
by GreenNGoldSooner on Sep 27, 2009 5:56 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wow. Some of those comments were pretty distasteful.
oc especially.
by LoneStranger on Sep 26, 2009 10:33 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Agreed... Don't think I'll be visiting there again
by OaklandSi on Sep 26, 2009 11:02 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
we'll try
like someone said earlier, if we can win with eveland starting AND lackey pitching, anything can happen
"Do I talk to myself? No, I just remind myself of what I'm trying to do. You know, I never answer myself so how can I be talking to myself?" - Rickey
by cuppingmaster on Sep 26, 2009 10:28 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
It bothers me that
recommended posts on the Rangers blog turn green. Shouldn’t they turn blue there? I thought green was just us because we’re green and gold, not for everybody.
"Go ahead and overachieve, you scrappy Brett-Favre-colored walk-takers." —Rev Halofan
by iglew on Sep 26, 2009 11:08 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hah! New sigline.
"The unbelieving looks of Mike Scioscia should be bottled and sold as crack to opposing fans." ~Lone Star Ball
by Elvez on Sep 27, 2009 7:58 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
The offensive turnaround is getting pretty amazing
4.2 runs a game pre- AS break/ 5.5 ever since.
And I think close to 5.7 if you begin with the Minnesota comeback game.
by eliot123 on Sep 26, 2009 10:23 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Patterson's arm
His throw “home” in the 8th(?) was one of the worst throws I’ve seen a MLB OF’er make. Exciting game though.
Gas to Chicago- $23.87 A's/White Sox Tix- $28 Watching the A's whipping the Sox in July 05'- Priceless
by WiscoFan on Sep 26, 2009 10:25 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Totally agree
The runner wasn’t even at third base when he got to the ball. At least square up and make an accurate throw.
by Tyler Bleszinski on Sep 26, 2009 10:25 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Any kind of a throw gets him
Unfortunately, an epileptic fit is not a throw.
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
by Nico on Sep 26, 2009 10:38 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Just got to vote in HH's Blame of the Game
Hey, that was fun!
I picked Lackey, only because I think he’s a classless jerk.
by coffee roaster on Sep 26, 2009 10:25 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
What do you all think of Barton??
Methinks he’s seeing a whole lot of Chris Carter in the rearview mirror, but that’s OK. whatever it takes. Nice to have them both in the fold for next year and beyond. Leverage and/or flexibility.
by eliot123 on Sep 26, 2009 10:25 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
It might just be that he isn't injured
And finally seeing some regular playing time. He’s always been a good hitter at every level. Perhaps he’s just maturing to a major league hitter finally. Hopefully.
by Tyler Bleszinski on Sep 26, 2009 10:26 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
My take on Barton is that he can hit .300 in the major leagues
but only if/when he decides he’s not going to hit HRs and his slugging will come from doubles. At that point, it’s a question of whether you want a 1Bman who hits for average, a solid OBP, and not a whole lot of power, along with solid defense. I could see Barton hitting .300/.380 with “doubles power” over a full season but only when he uses a line drive / all fields swing and accepts that he won’t hit many HRs that way — basically what Sweeney has been doing of late.
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
by Nico on Sep 26, 2009 10:42 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I’d take it.
The Ultimate Opportunist
by Rated-R Superstar on Sep 26, 2009 10:44 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
What becomes more iffy is if it comes with
6 HRs (like Sweeney this season) or even 10-12. That’s tough to get from your 1Bman unless you have a lot of power elsewhere — and at the moment the A’s don’t. But if Carter and Wallace can stick at two other positions, then you’re in business.
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
by Nico on Sep 26, 2009 10:46 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
As far as I can tell, if good defense + enough “doubles power” = MLB average of 2 WAR, it doesn’t matter if he accumulates if he accumulates those 2.0 WAR that way or the 4 WAR of offense through 45 dingerz and a seriously bad glove (Adam Dunnesque, -2 WAR) = 2 WAR either way.
by speckops on Sep 27, 2009 12:11 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
The past two months
This is exactly what the A’s offense has been like…doubles hitters Sweeney and Barton, some power from Cust and Suzuki, solid hitting by Kennedy and Davis, and BaBIP luck from Pennington. And the A’s are winning a lot of games and scoring a lot of runs. That’s two months.
by richwol1 on Sep 27, 2009 12:39 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think you and I have talked about this a bunch
possibly not even here, but the A’s just need some good hitters. And if they have to sacrifice the power, then I think that’s fine. They really need that IMO.
by Tyler Bleszinski on Sep 26, 2009 11:03 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Do you mean sacrifice gap power?
Or HR power?
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
by pookeyguru on Sep 26, 2009 11:05 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I agree, yet also if you look at last night,
assuming you can’t routinely just get 19 hits/game when you need them, what really made it possible for the A’s to truly come back and truly gain a decent lead, was 3-run HRs from Cust and Ellis. That potential, a couple places in the lineup, is still essential.
But yes, I’m excited about guys like Cardenas because I think “hitters capable of hitting .300” are also very, very important. Just good, pure hitters who are pluses, not minuses, in your lineup.
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
by Nico on Sep 27, 2009 9:09 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't think Ellis is in the lineup for his HR threat
he can homer on occasion, as do several on the team. I agree that Cust is the only real power threat at present.
by OaklandSi on Sep 27, 2009 9:12 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
but cust is to be non tendered
and kennedey is going to replace ellis next year, so there will be no HR threats
by Future Ed on Sep 27, 2009 9:15 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Probably not, and no
I imagine Cust will be back unless Carter makes the team out of ST (which I don’t expect) and Ellis will be the starting 2Bman throughout 2010.
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
by Nico on Sep 27, 2009 9:17 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Why would the A's do either of those
especially replacing Ellis with Kennedy?
"And Julio Franco is batting right-handed!" -- Wayne Hagin, A's radio play-by-play, mid-80s
by Nick on Sep 27, 2009 9:19 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I guess I should explain
75% of what I say, I don’t mean.
by Future Ed on Sep 27, 2009 9:22 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
So in this comment, 25% of the comment
would be…“I guess”!
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
by Nico on Sep 27, 2009 9:35 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ellis is signed for 2010 and the team has an option for 2011
if Kennedy is re-signed it won’t be to replace Ellis
by OaklandSi on Sep 27, 2009 10:25 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
And for the love of God, hopefully it won't be to start every day at 3B
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
by Nico on Sep 27, 2009 10:28 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I need to work on sarcasim obviously
by Future Ed on Sep 27, 2009 10:32 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
doesn't Nico teach a workshop on that?
by OaklandSi on Sep 27, 2009 10:32 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Like you'd know.
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
by Nico on Sep 27, 2009 10:36 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Barton should start the 2010 season at first base and we’ll see what happens from there.
The Ultimate Opportunist
by Rated-R Superstar on Sep 26, 2009 10:26 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Can he play other positions??
"Baseball is dull only to dull minds." Red Barber
by BERRYJO on Sep 26, 2009 10:28 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
No.
The Ultimate Opportunist
by Rated-R Superstar on Sep 26, 2009 10:28 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Oh yeah....I remember ppl saying that
"Baseball is dull only to dull minds." Red Barber
by BERRYJO on Sep 26, 2009 10:29 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
If I remember correctly,
he was a catcher originally. And played a bit of 3B…
But to answer your question, no. Not at all.
Please remedy my confusion
and thrust me back to the day.
The silence of your seclusion
brings night into all you say.
by danmerqury on Sep 26, 2009 10:29 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
well
if both Carter and Wallace plays next year like they are projected, then Barton needs to learn a new position.
by sf drift king on Sep 26, 2009 10:37 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wallace can play third base if he makes the team and I don’t think Carter should be with the A’s in 2010. During the year, maybe, but he should start out in Sacramento.
The Ultimate Opportunist
by Rated-R Superstar on Sep 26, 2009 10:42 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm interested in Carter as a corner OFer
Sounds like he may not be that good at 1B anyway and having a Jermaine Dye type in the OF to go with Barton or Doolittle at 1B would work well for me. Davis plays CF, and Sweeney plays OF with Hairston getting some starts against LHP.
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
by Nico on Sep 26, 2009 10:44 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Being in SoCal, I only get to watch the A’s when they play the Angels.
Tonight’s game was freaking awesome!
If you're at the table and you don't see a sucker..... you're it.
by Brownie's Year on Sep 26, 2009 10:44 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
F'ing rec'd.
Please remedy my confusion
and thrust me back to the day.
The silence of your seclusion
brings night into all you say.
by danmerqury on Sep 26, 2009 11:00 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
This is, like, the greatest face ever.
Please remedy my confusion
and thrust me back to the day.
The silence of your seclusion
brings night into all you say.
by danmerqury on Sep 26, 2009 11:18 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
I do not like Mike SoSo
"You know, a long time ago being crazy meant something. Nowadays everybody's crazy."
-Charles Manson
by kaweahkaweah on Sep 26, 2009 11:51 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
you can't blame a guy for the face he has. he can't change it.
on the other hand, that maternitunic he chooses to wear…
don't care if i ever get back.
by AV on Sep 27, 2009 12:28 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
The game was so fun to watch...
but the division title is pretty much decided. Sorry to be a wet blanket but the chances of the Rangers taking it away from the Halos is well pretty dang slim.
by IM4Oakgal on Sep 27, 2009 12:04 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Which would make it all the more fun!
Think Tiggers over Jays in ’87….
There is no "i" in Teamocil. At least not where you'd think.
by GreenNGoldSooner on Sep 27, 2009 6:01 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
line of the season from Nico
“2010 is not decided just yet,” oh man that’s WTF I’m talkin’ ’bout.
Hey, I just bought the team from Lew Wolff... who wants to play third?
by emperor nobody on Sep 27, 2009 12:33 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
ive been on this for months
we are going to be SO good in 2010, its gunna be so rad watching peoples minds blow.
THE DYNASTY STARTS NOW.
by PL78 on Sep 27, 2009 2:48 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Zomgz ask and you shall receive!
I’m off shopping
Comeback victory pls.
kthanxbye.
Is this the real life-
Is this just fantasy-
Caught in a landslide-
No escape from reality-
by Daniel777 on Sep 27, 2009 12:47 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
YEAH! Me likey!
P.S….. Dana Eveland for worst SP in the bigs.
Is this the real life-
Is this just fantasy-
Caught in a landslide-
No escape from reality-
by Daniel777 on Sep 27, 2009 2:21 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Don't care about his FIP, or his BABIP, or his tRA
Dana Eveland is a minor leaguer to stay.
"PECOTA can pretty much kiss my ass."-Nico
by jeepers on Sep 27, 2009 7:55 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
eveland
so he was the dan meyer on the haren trade. At least they got a fluke 1st half/several moths out of him in 08. I dont know if he’s out of options next yr, but maybe they can dump him on the pirates, royals, nats, etc Teams are always looking for back rotation filler especially when guys like tomko continue to get jobs. So there might be hope for eveland.
by Asfan4ever723 on Sep 27, 2009 8:58 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
there was a rooster walking around the angel stadium ticket window
Correction. It still is. No idea how it got here.
by JLaff on Sep 27, 2009 10:10 AM PDT via mobile reply actions 0 recs
Nice cock?
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
by Nico on Sep 27, 2009 10:23 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Bobby Crosby batting 5th
Any doubt that Geren needs a brain transplant is dispelled with that lineup.
Go A’s
We won against the odds the last two days, we can do it again
Crush the slegnA
by Trainman on Sep 27, 2009 12:03 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Wasn't this the first time the A's scored double digit runs against a non AL Central team?
In 2009 of course. I think so thinking back to some previous game notes against the Twins.
You have to include smiley faces - Poppy
;- ) :- ) :-O : -> : -] : -}
by micdog2001 on Sep 28, 2009 1:23 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
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