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Cahill, aided by double plays, earns win #10

It was one of those outings where you figure Trevor Cahill should have given up more than just one run, the sort where he's in trouble often and just waiting for that hit or two that leads to a big inning for the other side. The thing to remember is when you're a ground ball pitcher and someone's on base you're usually only one double play away from heading back to the dugout unscathed with the odds a little more in your favor than usual. Such was the case tonight and Daric Barton provided the offense early (with a little help from the Rangers "defense") before the A's opened it up big time in the 7th, winning 9-1.

In Cahill's 5 2/3 innings tonight (he was on a pitch count) he was able to get three of them. Two were of the conventional on-the-ground variety while one was a nice catch and throw from center by Rajai Davis. His first two innings were three up, three down affairs but he got the double plays in each of the middle innings. He was also pretty efficient in throwing 51 of his 79 pitches for strikes (65%) along with inducing 11 ground ball outs compared to 4 by air.

Once again he also avoided giving up the longball, though David Murphy came very close on a run-scoring double that hit the top of the jagged edge in right-center. There was some luck on his side tonight as most of the 6 hits and 2 walks he gave up came in four innings with just 1 strikeout overall but I see it as him making some of his own by keeping the ball down, pitching to his strengths.

Things got a little interesting in the bottom of the 1st when Adam Kennedy decided he was going to have a very short night as he argued a bad called strike three enough for Eric Cooper to give him the thumb. Of note was Bob Geren taking about half an hour to get out of the dugout but while Kennedy was right to be upset he didn't look like he'd be done with it until he got sent to the showers. Mission accomplished, but we were forced to endure eight innings of Bobby Crosby.

In the bottom of the 2nd Barton stepped to the plate with two away and Jack Cust on first after a walk. In one of those plays you really just have to see to believe, he hit a sinking liner to right that Nelson Cruz charged and dove for. Instead of letting it fall and keeping it to a two-out, two-on situation the ball got under his glove. Cust motored around to score as Barton reached third on a triple, but Ian Kinsler's relay throw got past Ivan Rodriguez to the backstop and Barton raced home as well, beating Brandon McCarthy's errant toss from near the on-deck circle. Out of all that, just one error was charged to Kinsler, which was about right.

Barton would come through again with two down in the 4th, singling to plate Ryan Sweeney. Cahill gave a run back in the 6th on the Murphy double before Marlon Byrd hit a fly ball to center. Davis made the catch and Murphy raced to third only to be tagged out by Bobby Crosby. Craig Breslow finished the inning and worked an uneventful 7th, then the A's really put it out of reach.

Leading off, Eric Patterson turned on a fastball away (yes, you read it right) for a double to right. Geren played it safe by having Crosby sacrifice Patterson to third but it quickly got out of hand for Willie Eyre. Davis singled, plating Patterson. Sweeney singled as Davis went to third. Kurt Suzuki and Cust both pulled doubles down the line, Suzuki's scoring two while Cust's brought Suzuki around. Mark Ellis singled in Cust and Eyre's night was done. Barton hit another ball solidly but this time it was a sharp liner right to Hank Blalock at first for an inning-ending double play.

The A's got one more in the 8th on a Davis strikeout, though he reached first on a wild pitch as Patterson trotted home after singling and advancing to third on a couple passed balls. Jerry Blevins and Brad Ziegler wrapped up the win that put Cahill into double figures days after Brett Anderson got there. After Kurt Suzuki dropped a foul pop by Kinsler, Ziegler's next and final pitch was a soft liner right back to him that led to an easy throw to Barton at first. Game over. A's win again, their eighth in the last nine. Yay!

Oh yeah. The Rajai Watch is now at .318 after a couple more hits. He did strike out three times.

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Fast recap is fast.

by speckops on Sep 22, 2009 9:59 PM PDT reply actions  

"Cheeky bahsterd...."

Zeigler to Geren…."A-Rod? He’s my bitch." -alox

by mrod on Sep 22, 2009 10:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

That almost invites a Twinkies-esque comeback. Good to know we dodged a bullet.

by speckops on Sep 22, 2009 10:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

I figured all of the frontpage writers did that.

You might as well, and you can add to the recap after it’s over.

Please remedy my confusion
and thrust me back to the day.
The silence of your seclusion
brings night into all you say.

by danmerqury on Sep 22, 2009 10:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

It depends

I started on the Cahill stuff almost as soon as he was taken out.

If it’s a really close game it’s a little harder because I want to lead off with what I see as the biggest news.

Last of the Ninth - Photography

by Flashfire on Sep 22, 2009 10:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

Just as long as you weren't doing the

67Marquez’s business partner thing.

"Go ahead and overachieve, you scrappy Brett-Favre-colored walk-takers." —Rev Halofan

by iglew on Sep 22, 2009 10:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

Cahill making the case for staying here in 2010...

very nice effort tonight.

Zeigler to Geren…."A-Rod? He’s my bitch." -alox

by mrod on Sep 22, 2009 10:00 PM PDT reply actions  

Yay wins!

They call their best player "Kung Fu Panda" and they complain that people aren’t taking them or the game seriously enough? -Nick

by mikev on Sep 22, 2009 10:05 PM PDT reply actions  

Yeah, what does that do to BABIP? Does that count as a ball in play, and therefore an 0/1?

by speckops on Sep 22, 2009 10:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

No, it just counts as a strikeout

Linda's in the cold ground, won't see her anymore
Somewhere out on the highway tonight, the drunken engines roar
It's just one of those things, one of those things
-- Al Stewart, "Accident on 3rd St."
In memory of Nick Adenhart and all victims of drunk driving

by PaulThomas on Sep 22, 2009 10:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

A's offense

After tonight’s blowout back to a positive run differential on the season

3rd highest scoring team in mlb since the ASB

scoring overall in mlb this yr has been down, but their offense overall ranks 14th best

by Asfan4ever723 on Sep 22, 2009 10:08 PM PDT reply actions  

an understatement OAH

But i think may would be more appropriate

"Do I talk to myself? No, I just remind myself of what I'm trying to do. You know, I never answer myself so how can I be talking to myself?" - Rickey

by cuppingmaster on Sep 22, 2009 10:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

You missed the most important lesson of this game:

Putting your infield in a. prior to the 8th inning, and/or b. in a game with a margin of more than one run, is slightly less intelligent than hitting yourself over the head with a ball-peen hammer while chanting lines from American Pie 2.

Every time I see a manager do this, I want to throw my shoe at the television. It is a one-run strategy. It does not make sense in a game which will probably not be decided by one run.

Linda's in the cold ground, won't see her anymore
Somewhere out on the highway tonight, the drunken engines roar
It's just one of those things, one of those things
-- Al Stewart, "Accident on 3rd St."
In memory of Nick Adenhart and all victims of drunk driving

by PaulThomas on Sep 22, 2009 10:21 PM PDT reply actions  

I really, really wish I could answer yes to this question

Linda's in the cold ground, won't see her anymore
Somewhere out on the highway tonight, the drunken engines roar
It's just one of those things, one of those things
-- Al Stewart, "Accident on 3rd St."
In memory of Nick Adenhart and all victims of drunk driving

by PaulThomas on Sep 22, 2009 11:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

If it's busted, how could I watch American Pie 2 on it?

Linda's in the cold ground, won't see her anymore
Somewhere out on the highway tonight, the drunken engines roar
It's just one of those things, one of those things
-- Al Stewart, "Accident on 3rd St."
In memory of Nick Adenhart and all victims of drunk driving

by PaulThomas on Sep 23, 2009 12:14 AM PDT up reply actions  

On the working one?

That way you can say you threw a shoe through your TV but not worry about breaking the good one. ;-)

Last of the Ninth - Photography

by Flashfire on Sep 23, 2009 12:19 AM PDT up reply actions  

I thought 67 was referring to the ball-peen hammer business

Linda's in the cold ground, won't see her anymore
Somewhere out on the highway tonight, the drunken engines roar
It's just one of those things, one of those things
-- Al Stewart, "Accident on 3rd St."
In memory of Nick Adenhart and all victims of drunk driving

by PaulThomas on Sep 23, 2009 12:26 AM PDT up reply actions  

Oh. Could be.

In that case I’d suggest getting a helmet first.

Last of the Ninth - Photography

by Flashfire on Sep 23, 2009 12:29 AM PDT up reply actions  

yes

I'm here to talk about the past.

by 67MARQUEZ on Sep 23, 2009 5:45 AM PDT up reply actions  

Has anyone ever tried to analyze that to see if it’s a good idea? I know that THT analyzed playing “no doubles” with (I believe) a one run lead in the bottom of the ninth, and they found virtually no difference than playing a normal “straight up” defense.

by speckops on Sep 22, 2009 10:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

Even Patterson got 2 hits!

WOW! This is fun! I hope they keep it going! Go A’s! Maybe the Holliday experiment helped the young guys more then we realize. Only time will tell.

"I'm not bad, I'm just drawn that way." -Jessica Rabbit

by A'sfansince1970 on Sep 22, 2009 10:22 PM PDT reply actions  

Did we win?

I'm here to talk about the past.

by 67MARQUEZ on Sep 22, 2009 10:24 PM PDT reply actions  

a nailbiter

"Do I talk to myself? No, I just remind myself of what I'm trying to do. You know, I never answer myself so how can I be talking to myself?" - Rickey

by cuppingmaster on Sep 22, 2009 10:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

i know

we were all on pins and needles to see how long it would take to see buck.

"Do I talk to myself? No, I just remind myself of what I'm trying to do. You know, I never answer myself so how can I be talking to myself?" - Rickey

by cuppingmaster on Sep 22, 2009 10:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

Uncle?

I'm here to talk about the past.

by 67MARQUEZ on Sep 22, 2009 10:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

No

But I’m hoping to see a picture of Travis Buck, John Buck and Charles Thomas together.

Last of the Ninth - Photography

by Flashfire on Sep 22, 2009 10:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

the three caballeros eh?

"Do I talk to myself? No, I just remind myself of what I'm trying to do. You know, I never answer myself so how can I be talking to myself?" - Rickey

by cuppingmaster on Sep 22, 2009 10:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

Ooh I like word games.

Well ones that I actually get.

I'm here to talk about the past.

by 67MARQUEZ on Sep 22, 2009 10:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

should have put a picture of a bottle of wine or something

"Do I talk to myself? No, I just remind myself of what I'm trying to do. You know, I never answer myself so how can I be talking to myself?" - Rickey

by cuppingmaster on Sep 22, 2009 10:49 PM PDT up reply actions  

if those three are out of baseball in a few years

they can get a joint endorsement deal

"Do I talk to myself? No, I just remind myself of what I'm trying to do. You know, I never answer myself so how can I be talking to myself?" - Rickey

by cuppingmaster on Sep 22, 2009 10:55 PM PDT up reply actions  

I don't smoke anymore.

I don’t smoke any less either.

I'm here to talk about the past.

by 67MARQUEZ on Sep 22, 2009 10:56 PM PDT up reply actions  

smoke baseballs, not tobacco

"Do I talk to myself? No, I just remind myself of what I'm trying to do. You know, I never answer myself so how can I be talking to myself?" - Rickey

by cuppingmaster on Sep 22, 2009 11:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

all of them?

maybe sweeney needs to rest his knees?

by OakA'sHoney on Sep 22, 2009 10:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

slusser agrees with you

but does the BB agree? that is the question.

"Do I talk to myself? No, I just remind myself of what I'm trying to do. You know, I never answer myself so how can I be talking to myself?" - Rickey

by cuppingmaster on Sep 22, 2009 10:28 PM PDT up reply actions  

may-be

"Do I talk to myself? No, I just remind myself of what I'm trying to do. You know, I never answer myself so how can I be talking to myself?" - Rickey

by cuppingmaster on Sep 22, 2009 10:37 PM PDT up reply actions  

maybe.

i would rather see buck getting starts over patterson anyway. season’s dead and we’ve already seen a bit of the AAAA ball that patterson plays, what harm can it do.

by ElQuesoCapitan on Sep 22, 2009 10:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

No.

Scott Hairston should really keep playing. His internal organs aren’t rupturing and he isn’t blind.

"When you get that nice celebration coming in the dugout, and you're getting your ass hammered by guys, there's no better feeling than to have that done." -Matt Stairs

by Aufheben on Sep 22, 2009 10:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

would it even matter if he had a mohawk?

dreds? a stinger goatee? All three?

"Do I talk to myself? No, I just remind myself of what I'm trying to do. You know, I never answer myself so how can I be talking to myself?" - Rickey

by cuppingmaster on Sep 22, 2009 10:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

hmmm

what if he wore pink consistently? or wore chaps?

"Do I talk to myself? No, I just remind myself of what I'm trying to do. You know, I never answer myself so how can I be talking to myself?" - Rickey

by cuppingmaster on Sep 22, 2009 11:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

unfortunately, no

"Do I talk to myself? No, I just remind myself of what I'm trying to do. You know, I never answer myself so how can I be talking to myself?" - Rickey

by cuppingmaster on Sep 22, 2009 11:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

i'm sure if you dress up and ask nicely

"Do I talk to myself? No, I just remind myself of what I'm trying to do. You know, I never answer myself so how can I be talking to myself?" - Rickey

by cuppingmaster on Sep 22, 2009 11:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

tease

Why am I awake?

I'm here to talk about the past.

by 67MARQUEZ on Sep 22, 2009 11:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

watching QuickPitch like me?

"Do I talk to myself? No, I just remind myself of what I'm trying to do. You know, I never answer myself so how can I be talking to myself?" - Rickey

by cuppingmaster on Sep 22, 2009 11:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

Not at this moment.

But it’s usually what I fall asleep to. Kind of like a bedtime story.

I'm here to talk about the past.

by 67MARQUEZ on Sep 22, 2009 11:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

I have G2 mix if anyone wants some

also, I wish Trenni would host the show more

"Do I talk to myself? No, I just remind myself of what I'm trying to do. You know, I never answer myself so how can I be talking to myself?" - Rickey

by cuppingmaster on Sep 22, 2009 11:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

I saw her do the Spring Training reports

earlier this year. Not impressed with her reporting skills which I know you care nothing about.

Bailey for ROY!

by ZigFan31 on Sep 22, 2009 11:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

you're right about the latter

But I do agree. Neither her nor Hazel Mae are strong female baseball reporters. I like Amsinger and Vasgersian — not as silly as the “analysts” but still make it interesting and topical.

"Do I talk to myself? No, I just remind myself of what I'm trying to do. You know, I never answer myself so how can I be talking to myself?" - Rickey

by cuppingmaster on Sep 22, 2009 11:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

Bob Geren thanks you for quoting him

"Do I talk to myself? No, I just remind myself of what I'm trying to do. You know, I never answer myself so how can I be talking to myself?" - Rickey

by cuppingmaster on Sep 22, 2009 10:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

Don't know if this was in the game thread, but I was disappointed to hear Ken and Vince mention

that Hairston’s hamstring problem has turned into a hip injury, probably due to favoring his bad leg. Like Gallagher at the end of last year, and Gaudin in the second half of ‘07, this was another situation where the A’s chose to keep trotting out a guy who appeared to be playing with a fairly conspicuous injury, and this despite the team being out of contention and a glut of young OFs from which to choose a replacement.

"When you get that nice celebration coming in the dugout, and you're getting your ass hammered by guys, there's no better feeling than to have that done." -Matt Stairs

by Aufheben on Sep 22, 2009 10:28 PM PDT reply actions  

Oh yeah... or the post above this one.

You don’t have to be a weatherman to know Scott Hairston shouldn’t play baseball.

"When you get that nice celebration coming in the dugout, and you're getting your ass hammered by guys, there's no better feeling than to have that done." -Matt Stairs

by Aufheben on Sep 22, 2009 10:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

agreed....

I want to see Buck get a chance to play now….c’mon Beane and Geren!

Let the boy play for crying out loud!!!!!!

Zeigler to Geren…."A-Rod? He’s my bitch." -alox

by mrod on Sep 22, 2009 10:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

I miss the A's

Being back at college means I don’t get to watch the games any more. I miss them so much that for my entire Political Science class I just doodled possible lineups and pitching rotations for next season. Didn’t take a single note or hear a single word that was said so this infatuation is clearly bad for my health.

"Their batters are patient to the point that it's annoying." -Ryan Franklin

by Helloooo 1st on Sep 22, 2009 11:16 PM PDT reply actions  

Good god, I've totally been there.

I distinctly remember not paying attention in a history class just to make lineups with our shiny new toys: Frank Thomas and Milton Bradley.

Also fun: attempting to name the entire 40-man roster from memory. It’s difficult enough, and makes it look like you’re writing a lot.

Please remedy my confusion
and thrust me back to the day.
The silence of your seclusion
brings night into all you say.

by danmerqury on Sep 22, 2009 11:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah

The first few classes ive tried listing each division/conference/league in the various major sports. Then I tried college conferences and punk rock bands. I’m running out of ideas…

"Their batters are patient to the point that it's annoying." -Ryan Franklin

by Helloooo 1st on Sep 23, 2009 12:11 AM PDT up reply actions  

How much are you paying to be there again?

Some motherfcukers are always trying to ice skate uphill - Blade.

by OldhamA on Sep 23, 2009 1:26 AM PDT up reply actions  

Don't you know?

This is America. Everyone deserves an education. Therefore it doesn’t cost anything.

"Go ahead and overachieve, you scrappy Brett-Favre-colored walk-takers." —Rev Halofan

by iglew on Sep 23, 2009 2:06 AM PDT up reply actions  

iglew, I just saw your comment in the thread about your computer

Have you tried taking it to an Apple store? They can actually be pretty nice about fixing things for free. You’ll probably have to go online and make an appointment (I think they call it a “reservation”).

My wife’s Mac laptop was acting weird a while ago, and she figured out online that the problem was a dying battery. She took it in, they made the same diagnosis, and they gave her a new battery, no charge.

"And Julio Franco is batting right-handed!" -- Wayne Hagin, A's radio play-by-play, mid-80s

by Nick on Sep 23, 2009 7:01 AM PDT up reply actions  

What an f-wad

I know it’s a recession but damn. It’s not like he’s living in atherton after 8 years in the minors or however long he’s been on the farm.

"Do I talk to myself? No, I just remind myself of what I'm trying to do. You know, I never answer myself so how can I be talking to myself?" - Rickey

by cuppingmaster on Sep 23, 2009 5:41 AM PDT via mobile up reply actions  

exactly

a rookie scrub’s first HR? take the jersey and be grateful for it!

by my_cat_max on Sep 23, 2009 7:28 AM PDT up reply actions  

Hell, I'd be happy with a handshake.

And maybe a picture.

Please remedy my confusion
and thrust me back to the day.
The silence of your seclusion
brings night into all you say.

by danmerqury on Sep 23, 2009 8:03 AM PDT up reply actions  

What a douchebag.

They call their best player "Kung Fu Panda" and they complain that people aren’t taking them or the game seriously enough? -Nick

by mikev on Sep 23, 2009 7:36 AM PDT up reply actions  

OT

has anyone seen the show Oakland Gang Wars on disco very channel

I wouldnt be surprised if uncle lew is tivo’ing these episodes and has sen them to Selig, even more reason to move out of there

by Asfan4ever723 on Sep 22, 2009 11:55 PM PDT reply actions  

It's just crime-porn

It’s as accurate a portrayal of Oakland as watching a Chasey Lain video is an accurate portrayal of sex.

by cityplANner on Sep 23, 2009 12:58 AM PDT up reply actions  

Woah, wait, it's not?

Some motherfcukers are always trying to ice skate uphill - Blade.

by OldhamA on Sep 23, 2009 1:28 AM PDT up reply actions  

Tonight's Game

More people at the Coliseum than the last couple of “10,400” attendance games - yet somehow the attendance numbers didn’t change.

Gorgeous night for baseball. Pretty warm, no breeze. The A’s were cookin’. Even the Bale Vietnamese Sandwiches (from this great unknown little place on San Pablo in El Cerrito, $2.50/sandwich) were dynamite.

Best play: the Barton “Triple.” Second best play: the Rajai Davis strikeout (non) RBI. Worst play: Bob Geren’s nonchalant stare while his third baseman argues balls and strikes. The good news is that Bobby Crosby plays a better third base than Adam Kennedy. The bad news is that he’s still Bobby Crosby.

by richwol1 on Sep 23, 2009 1:19 AM PDT reply actions  

I like your reports.

How many games do you get out to a year?

I'm here to talk about the past.

by 67MARQUEZ on Sep 23, 2009 5:46 AM PDT up reply actions  

I'LL BE THERE TONIGHT.

They call their best player "Kung Fu Panda" and they complain that people aren’t taking them or the game seriously enough? -Nick

by mikev on Sep 23, 2009 7:27 AM PDT up reply actions  

Damn it.

I got an invite from one of the AN gals last night, and I can’t make it. Too much on the plate. I will be there on 10/4.

I'm here to talk about the past.

by 67MARQUEZ on Sep 23, 2009 8:52 AM PDT up reply actions  

I didn't.

AN Gals hate me, apparently.

They call their best player "Kung Fu Panda" and they complain that people aren’t taking them or the game seriously enough? -Nick

by mikev on Sep 23, 2009 9:21 AM PDT up reply actions  

Oh mikey

you’re cute when you’re feeling neglected.

But remember, to them, I am huggable, and you are the other able.

I'm here to talk about the past.

by 67MARQUEZ on Sep 23, 2009 10:05 AM PDT up reply actions  

Still didn't get invited to the game tonight.

Besides, we never did figure out what that other -able is.

Amicable? Likeable? Permeable? Expendable?

They call their best player "Kung Fu Panda" and they complain that people aren’t taking them or the game seriously enough? -Nick

by mikev on Sep 23, 2009 4:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

I dunno...

…I was quite enamored by Pudge’s two passed ball and two wild pitch experience in the 8th which led to the Rangers granting a courtesy run to the A’s.

by Dr Pez on Sep 23, 2009 8:50 AM PDT up reply actions  

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