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Minor League Update: Season's End

 

The 2009 minor league season is over and congratulations are due to the Midland RockHounds, who won the Texas League crown by defeating the NW Arkansas Naturals 3 games to 1. The Sacramento River Cats were not so fortunate, getting swept by the Memphis Redbirds in 3 games. All in all it was a fairly successful year for the farm system, as several prospects that were under a lot of scrutiny had good seasons while 3 of the 4 full season teams posted winning records. (Heck, even the Stockton Ports managed to rebound in the 2nd half and go 36-34 to finish with a 61-79 overall record.)

 

 

I plan on doing a full summary of the farm system a little later on. For today I’m going to update what key players did in the play-offs. Minorleaguesplits.com is the only website that I know of that keeps track of play-off performance as part of the yearly tally but even they only show the numbers as part of the whole body of work. So if you ever wonder why the numbers from their website are different from what you will see at MiLB.com it’s on account of the play-off performance. The season totals listed below include the play-off numbers.

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Chris Carter

AAA Postseason: 8-27, 1 D, 4 HR, 4 BB, 8 K (296/387/778)

 

AA-AAA Total: 567 AB, 44 D, 2 T, 32 HR, 89 BB, 137 K (330/423/584) .389 BABIP

 

MLE: 597 AB, 34 D, 1T, 25 HR, 62 BB, 151 K (258/330/444) .306 BABIP

 

Carter was the breakout performer in the organization and the A’s have tried him in the outfield in addition to 1B in an effort to find somewhere, anywhere to play his bat. Oakland seems very eager to see what Carter can do; as they discussed adding him to the 40 man roster after the River Cats’ season ended so he could get a cup of coffee with the A’s. Instead they’ve secured a spot for him in the Mexican Pacific League to play Winter Ball. For those who aren’t familiar with the MPL the quality of the competition is generally considered to be AAA caliber. You’ll see a lot of familiar names in the box scores and the A’s hope Carter will be able to handle the steady diet of quality breaking stuff he’s likely to see. If Carter has a strong Winter Ball season expect the A’s to give him a shot at a job on the 2010 Opening Day roster during Spring Training.

 

Brett Wallace

AAA Postseason: 8-27, 1 T, 2 HR, 2 BB, 3K (296/345/593)

 

AA-AAA Total: 550 AB, 26 D, 1 T, 21 HR, 47 BB, 115 K (293/365/458) .338 BABIP

 

MLE: 568 AB, 21 D, 1 T, 16 HR, 34 BB, 125 K (250/305/375) .295 BABIP

 

TotalZone gives Wallace an average defensive score at 3B but as you can see, his strike zone judgment needs a bit more improvement and his power numbers could tick up some as well. I haven’t seen anything that says Wallace will play Winter Ball, but my guess is he’ll spend time at the A’s facility in Arizona working on his defense and basically getting to know the folks in the organization. He won’t be a part of Instructs per se, but I imagine he’ll get some time in. The A’s don’t appear to be as aggressive about promoting Wallace as they do Carter but I’m sure that could change depending on what moves the A’s make in the offseason. If Wallace ends up back in Sacramento to start next season, rest assured his time there will be contingent on how long it takes for the A’s medical staff to begin their post-mortem on Eric Chavez.

 

Adrian Cardenas

AAA Postseason: 10-27, 3 D, 4 BB, 4K (370/452/481)

 

AA-AAA Total: 530 AB, 44 D, 4 T, 4 HR, 57 BB, 75 K (304/369/425) .348 BABIP

 

MLE: 548 AB, 36 D, 2 T, 3 HR, 40 BB, 82 K (246/295/336) .285 BABIP

 

I think Cardenas could easily surpass his MLE next season; the guy seems to be a natural born hitter. The A’s rave about his hitting ability and think 2B is the best fit for him at this time. Given Ellis’ track record for not staying healthy there’s a good chance we’ll see Cardenas in the Green & Gold at some point next season. The 52 extra-base hits are an encouraging sign as heading into the 2009 season his power was heavy on the potential and very little on the applied side of things.

 

Tyson Ross

AA Postseason: 12.1 IP, 7 H, 2 ER, 3 BB, 19 K (1.49 ERA)

 

A-AA Total: 155.2 IP, 125 H, 64 ER, 56 BB, 132 K (3.71 ERA, 1.17 WHIP)

 

Ross was absolutely dominant in the postseason for the RockHounds and he probably has the best stuff of any SP currently pitching in the A’s farm system. (Note the phrasing before you comment!) Consistency is an issue for Ross, but a year from now the A’s might be trying to find room for his power arm.

 

And once again, thank you for your support.

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(Noting the phrasing)

Ross is the best stuff pitching in the system because Fautino De Los Santos and Michael Ynoa are not (Yet), right? Though gotta ask about Henry Rodriguez when it comes to stuff as well (or does he not count as well, as he got a call up?).

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by Zonis on Sep 22, 2009 6:19 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

DLS got shut down but should be at Instructs

Ynoa is expected to participate a couple weeks in.

And as jeffro said, Henry ain’t an SP anymore.

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by grover on Sep 22, 2009 3:36 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

grover, didn't they (whomever they are) consider DLS as having the best stuff in the system before his injury?

Great read by the way.. as always

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by Eastbayjim on Sep 22, 2009 3:45 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Certainly up there with Cahill/Anderson.

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by nevermoor on Sep 22, 2009 4:04 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

"Best Stuff"

Anthony Capra > Tyson Ross???

Capra: A-A+ Total: 156.0 IP, 112 H, 54 ER, 61 BB, 170 K (3.20 ERA, 1.11 WHIP) – .206 AVG against

Ross: A-AA Total: 155.2 IP, 125 H, 64 ER, 56 BB, 132 K (3.71 ERA, 1.17 WHIP) – .233 AVG against

by Colorado Fan on Sep 22, 2009 4:16 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Capra's fastball will touch 90

His killer pitch is the change-up. Guys who can hit their spots and change speeds can put up more impressive numbers than arm strength guys in the same league. That doesn’t mean Capra has better stuff than Ross, just that he uses what he has better.

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by grover on Sep 22, 2009 4:20 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

DLS was the prize of the Swisher trade

And yes, he was considered to have excellent stuff, maybe even better than Cahill and Anderson.

Then he broke.

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by grover on Sep 22, 2009 4:19 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

H-Rod...

= Casilla part 2. I know he was probably nervous last night, but besides throwing 100 mph, what else does he offer? His peripherals were ugly this year. I think the A’s should look to move him this offseason.

by Brian Heath on Sep 22, 2009 8:00 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

He struck out like 70 guys in 40 innings. He's doing SOMETHING right.

Get this kid to knock 2 or 3 mph off his pitches and figure out where the hell it’s going when he throws it.

They call their best player "Kung Fu Panda" and they complain that people aren’t taking them or the game seriously enough? -Nick

by mikev on Sep 22, 2009 8:01 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

39 BB, 41 hits - 78 base runners in 48.2 innings...

ugly WHIP, but you’re right 82 Ks. 5.18 ERA for the season. He reminds me too much of Casilla.

by Brian Heath on Sep 22, 2009 8:07 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Casilla hasn't put up those kinds of strikeout numbers

There aren’t many who have, actually. I think the most comparable player to Rodriguez in the majors is probably Carlos Marmol, who’s been good at times but clearly needs to reel in his walk rate to something manageable to sustain success.

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Somewhere out on the highway tonight, the drunken engines roar
It's just one of those things, one of those things
-- Al Stewart, "Accident on 3rd St."
In memory of Nick Adenhart and all victims of drunk driving

by PaulThomas on Sep 22, 2009 4:59 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Grover...

any idea which minor leaguers need to be protected for the Rul V draft this offseason? I know Carter does. How ’bout Simmons, Carignan, Demel?

by Brian Heath on Sep 22, 2009 8:03 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

I think all the '07 draftees are safe for another year

So Simmons, Carignan, and Demel are all ok. I think Carter is the only really significant guy who needs to be added. I think AAA catcher Recker is eligible for the draft but he’s a pretty long shot to get picked and wouldn’t be much of a loss if he did.

by DiegoAsFan on Sep 22, 2009 9:22 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I did a list a while back...

damned if I can find it though.

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by grover on Sep 22, 2009 3:52 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Players who need to be protected are, loosely speaking, collegians from 2006 and HSers from 2005

Italiano was traded and Lansford sucks, so that’s likely about it for 2005 players. 2006 was also HS-heavy with Cahill and Sulentic being early picks, and they didn’t have a first-rounder and failed to sign two other top 10 picks (one of them, Mike Leake, was ultimately inked as a first-rounder this year).

The only significant necessary additions are from trades— Carter, DLS, and (maybe) Corey Wimberly?

Linda's in the cold ground, won't see her anymore
Somewhere out on the highway tonight, the drunken engines roar
It's just one of those things, one of those things
-- Al Stewart, "Accident on 3rd St."
In memory of Nick Adenhart and all victims of drunk driving

by PaulThomas on Sep 22, 2009 5:11 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'm glad Carter's playing winter ball.

The AAA-esque competition should definitely help him quite a bit. I’d be fine with the idea of giving him a job in Oakland for 2010 if he shows he can hit the breaking ball consistently in the MPL.

Also, both Chavez and Wallace have shown an strong interest in working with one another. Chavez even said something about “giving him tips that will instantly make him a better fielder”. And Wallace claims Chavez was his childhood hero. I’d love to see them on the roster together at some point (probably not at the beginning of 2010). Of course, that’s contingent on Chavez’s back being in less than 5,000 separate pieces, so it’s up in the air. Hold up, Eric!

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by danmerqury on Sep 22, 2009 8:21 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

I'd love that.

He just needs somewhere out of the spotlight to toy with his knuckle curve and work on consistency. It doesn’t really matter too much if it’s in winter ball or in AAA next season.

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and thrust me back to the day.
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brings night into all you say.

by danmerqury on Sep 22, 2009 2:06 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'd be worried about overuse of his arm

He’s already basically at the point where he should be shut down for the year (as is Anderson).

Linda's in the cold ground, won't see her anymore
Somewhere out on the highway tonight, the drunken engines roar
It's just one of those things, one of those things
-- Al Stewart, "Accident on 3rd St."
In memory of Nick Adenhart and all victims of drunk driving

by PaulThomas on Sep 22, 2009 5:12 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Carter might play both

The A’s see a little Swisher in him I guess.

But we’ll see what happens when he takes the field.

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by grover on Sep 22, 2009 3:40 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Oops!

Meant for jeffro below.

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by grover on Sep 22, 2009 3:40 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

That should work as Chavez learned a large amount from Wash and can probably pass on a lot to Wallace

I can see it now. 2014 Wallace gets his 5th straight Gold Glove at 3B for the A’s.

"Whether you think you can, or you think you can't, either way, YOU'RE RIGHT !"

by Eastbayjim on Sep 22, 2009 3:50 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Carter's path?

Grover, is Carter’s path to Oaktown via a patch of grass in the MPL, or a patch of dirt? Meaning… Will he play in the outfield in Mexico? Is there any mention of this anywhere? I have read a few different places that he is a brutal First basemen, but not sure how to validate that.

I guess Bob Geren pointing out that scouts liken him to Jermania Dye is probably a hint…

by jeffro on Sep 22, 2009 8:25 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

The last I heard

from the interview with Liepmann was that the A’s viewed Carter as a first baseman. But I’m sure nothing is set in stone and that he will continue to get some shots in the OF. I guess that doesn’t help much but I would say the most likely spot for him is 1B.

by DiegoAsFan on Sep 22, 2009 9:24 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Thanks again grover!

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-Charles Manson

by kaweahkaweah on Sep 22, 2009 8:44 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Welcome

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by grover on Sep 22, 2009 3:40 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

It's really hard not to get shiny toy syndrome with Carter.

That MLE is better than anything we have on the big league roster. Hope he crushes winter ball.

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by jeepers on Sep 22, 2009 12:06 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

I wonder given the injury situation

Outman and Braden, that is, whether Ross may be here sooner rather than later

I could see a rotation of Anderson, Cahill, Braden (if able), Tomko and Ross by midseason.

by eliot123 on Sep 22, 2009 1:09 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Wow

What happened to Mazzaro and Gio and Mortenson or even Eveland and Simmons or Graham Godfrey…?

"Life is a horizontal fall" -Jean Cocteau

by King Richard on Sep 22, 2009 2:55 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions   0 recs

Your posts are always a delight to read, grover.

I know you’re a busy muppet, and I appreciate all the hard work you put into these. Makes me super excited for the future!

"No matter what I talk about, I always get back to baseball." -- Connie Mack

by GreenSocks on Sep 22, 2009 1:47 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Glad you're happy

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by grover on Sep 22, 2009 3:40 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Wallace had a better season than I thought he did

Give him another half to full season in AAA and he could be ready to step in and mash, much like Carter is doing right now.

Also, really nice to see Ross performing as well as he did his first full season. Pitched well in a notorious hitter’s league/park in Stockton and then continued that success in the level that really separates the men from the boys.

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by Helloooo 1st on Sep 22, 2009 2:17 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

I think Tyson Ross is underated.

Not here of course, but league wide and among bloggers. It seems as though the A’s are leaving his mechanics alone, and I like this approach, but I bet if they worked with him on his stride and arm motion that his consistency would benefit.

The guy’s just a natural athlete and can probably handle some adjustment, especially since he recognizes the eccentricities of his mechanics. He may not be the best SP prospect we have, but the man has serious upside.

by Rancho Canseco on Sep 22, 2009 3:48 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

I'm really liking Ross.

I’ve been making sure to keep tabs on him since he was drafted from Cal. Gotta root for the local guys! I hope that Ross, Leon and Capra can continue their success into next season.

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by kenntoe on Sep 22, 2009 3:49 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

The argument I can see is forming.

Chris Carter in the majors after a good winter ball and spring showing.

The stones are beginning to fall. It seems like the front office is considering the idea.

This will be an A’s Nation issue starting very soon.

Is/Will be Carter ready?

Should we waste a year of control for the first two months of 2010 if he is?

These are the questions wherein we’ll catch the conscience of the A’s.

"Life is a horizontal fall" -Jean Cocteau

by King Richard on Sep 22, 2009 4:04 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

The A's have said publicly that they won't keep a guy down for service time reasons

When they feel Carter is ready they’ll call him up.

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by grover on Sep 22, 2009 4:17 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Over/Under

Does he start 2010 on the big league roster…?

"Life is a horizontal fall" -Jean Cocteau

by King Richard on Sep 22, 2009 4:29 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

the underrated jewel of this farm system will be...

matt sulentic and/or shane peterson

both did well in AA considering its was their age 21 seasons

by Asfan4ever723 on Sep 22, 2009 6:05 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Interesting choices

I have to admit I like Peterson but I don’t really have a good feel for him yet. He kind of reminds me of a Cunningham type player who is good at a lot of things but doesn’t have one outstanding tool.

I still can’t get on board the Sulentic train though. I like that he appears to have added some speed to his game and he supposedly has developed into a pretty good defender as a corner outfielder. But offensively I still can’t see him hitting enough to be a major leaguer, he manages to put up high babips at every level but doesn’t really have good contact skills, power, or patience. I can’t see that skill set carrying over to the majors.

by DiegoAsFan on Sep 22, 2009 6:43 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

How much you like Sulentic has to be very strongly connected to how much you value ARL

He’s repeatedly held his own at levels above where typical players of his age are playing, but he’s done so without really demonstrating any genuine MLB-quality skills.

I’m dubious, personally.

Linda's in the cold ground, won't see her anymore
Somewhere out on the highway tonight, the drunken engines roar
It's just one of those things, one of those things
-- Al Stewart, "Accident on 3rd St."
In memory of Nick Adenhart and all victims of drunk driving

by PaulThomas on Sep 22, 2009 9:45 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Carter Winter Ball

Anyone know were Carter is going to be playing? I am in Mexico and I’d love to see him if he comes to the coast league!

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by Humboldt2Torreon on Sep 23, 2009 7:44 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Hopefully Barton's resurgence means that Carter will spend the first few months of next season in AAA.

I’d like see him get more than 81 bats at AAA before we start his service clock.

by DeJay on Sep 23, 2009 7:58 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

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