Springer Claimed by Rays, Braden to the DL?
by gigglingone on Aug 8, 2009 11:48 AM PDT
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According to the tweet from oakclubhouse at least....
More from scout.com:
OaklandClubhouse.com has learned from a source that reliever Russ Springer has been traded by the Oakland A's. It isn't clear for who or to what team as of yet. Oakland is also placing left-handed starter Dallas Braden on the DL and recalling outfielder Aaron Cunningham and starter Clayton Mortensen. Mortensen will start tonight. The A's are also purchasing the contract of left-handed reliever Jay Marshall. We haven't confirmed what the third move will be on the A's roster yet.
Assistant GM David Forst said it's a straight waiver claim.
"We felt like it was a good opportunity to see some guys in Triple-A the last month of the season, and it gives Russ the chance to pitch in a pennant race," Forst said. "That's something he deserves at this point in his career. He's done a great job for us and he's been a great mentor for our youngsters."
Also:
There is still the potential that the team will place Dallas Braden on the DL tomorrrow if the infected rash on his left foot has not improved substantially.
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Marshall's chance was a couple years ago, he also deserves to get another.
"Whether you think you can, or you think you can't, either way, YOU'RE RIGHT !"
And his chance two years ago doesn't count
because he was a Rule 5 foam peanut on the roster…
"Flea Markets aren't just for blind dates anymore!"- The Reverend Billy Lard
by Gaijin_Suketto on Aug 8, 2009 12:34 PM PDT up reply actions
The fun part of all of this is that there is an abundance of players we would all like to see get a chance.
The A’s have great depth at relief in the minors and also outfield so some will just have to wait until Sept.
Like Syphon said below, The A’s are more fun to watch now that they have gone younger. Davis is playing like a man possessed and yes, he could actually be this good now that he is playing everyday and isn’t afraid of not performing. I like what i have seen from Pennington also. A lot of his outs were good hits. Also he is hitting a bunch of doubles.
"Whether you think you can, or you think you can't, either way, YOU'RE RIGHT !"
Marshall goes up because he could give the front office more trading chips
If Marshall can do a suitable Breslow impression, we could do some LOOGY trading in the offseason.
The question would be which one would be on the block
"And Julio Franco is batting right-handed!" -- Wayne Hagin, A's radio play-by-play, mid-80s
Kilby - not surprised despite his numbers
Kilby has consistently put up the kind of numbers that if he was an early pick everyone would calling him our next best thing.
But frankly, anyone who has watched over the years, shouldn’t be surprised by this move. It’s been the way it’s been for years. Not sure the chance will ever come for Kilby in Oakland.
I hope he can pitch better this time
couldn’t buy an out against a RH batter when he was last here
What are his stats in AAA against RHB’s, does anyone know?
My favorite team is a f***ing embarrassment to all true A's fans and they make me sick to my stomach on an almost daily f***ing basis. But being a true fan, I will ride this pathetic bunch of losers out and hope that they get better in 2010
Not so good:
Against righties: 25.2 IP, 38 hits, 13 BB, 11K.
Against lefties: 25.0 IP, 15 hits, 2 BB, 19 K.
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
Yep
He won’t last long up here.
I have too many not so fond memories last time.
AS long as Geren never allows him to pitch to a RHB, he might be alright.
My favorite team is a f***ing embarrassment to all true A's fans and they make me sick to my stomach on an almost daily f***ing basis. But being a true fan, I will ride this pathetic bunch of losers out and hope that they get better in 2010
That was also before Marshall became the more lefty version of Ziggy
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It looks like the younger guys are getting tryouts now
I believe the Cards or Twins had strong interests in Springer in July.
"Whether you think you can, or you think you can't, either way, YOU'RE RIGHT !"
On with the youth movement.
This team is soo much more fun to watch past few weeks with the youngsters.
+1
win or lose, this team has been 10 times more fun to watc since we shipped holiday off
If you had a lineup of 9 Jack Custs who hit(Cust career average) .239 AVG, .382 OBP, and .475 SLG, then your team would score 6.12 runs per game-totalling to 991runs a season.The 08 rangers lead the majors in runs score with 901.
I know there are a bunch of Holliday bashers
But the 2 HR (including a grandslam) is still pretty amazing. He got hot just about the same time as the rest of the team got hot too.
He got hot at the same time he switched his swing back to the one he'd been using his entire career.
Hmm.
"True fact: In a global thermonuclear war, the only human who would survive would be David Eckstein" -PT
Springer
Probably for a player to be named later from St Louis is my best guess. As for cunningham he was selected over Buck since Buck is still hurt and been DHing lately.
Buck isn't hurt any more and has been playing the outfield a lot
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My guess on Springer trade: Cardinals
Mozeliak knows if his team doesn’t make the playoffs, there will be some angry, angry people in STL.
"I generally avoid temptation unless I can't resist it" ~ Mae West
And its a straight waiver claim so nothing but salary relief.
Dating girls is like starting pitching depth, you think you have a good full rotation, even too many starters, then in an instant as soon as you trade your depth away injuries decimate your rotation and you are forced to start Sidney Ponson.
by designatedforassignment on Aug 8, 2009 12:42 PM PDT up reply actions
Apparently Forst said Springer is just a straight waiver claim. I don't know if that means the A's don't get anything back or not.
"Whether you think you can, or you think you can't, either way, YOU'RE RIGHT !"
Now throw that money at Stassi plz Beane.
"I generally avoid temptation unless I can't resist it" ~ Mae West
From that link...
“We felt like it was a good opportunity to see some guys in Triple-A the last month of the season, and it gives Russ the chance to pitch in a pennant race,” Forst said. “That’s something he deserves at this point in his career. He’s done a great job for us and he’s been a great mentor for our youngsters.”
There's no crying in baseball!
Pure class.
Get him in another pennant race before retirement.
"I generally avoid temptation unless I can't resist it" ~ Mae West
nothing but a free roster spot and extra money
spot went to marshall, maybe extra money used to sign draft picks!!
how exciting!
So we could have had a middle of the organization prospect for Springer a week ago. Now we let him walk for nothing? Also Mortenson? What about Simmons??
by nocal81(Vincent) on Aug 8, 2009 12:47 PM PDT reply actions
BB is probably saving Simmon's service time since all the other top pitchers have come up this year.
"Whether you think you can, or you think you can't, either way, YOU'RE RIGHT !"
Not really...
I dont think said offer was on the table…
"I generally avoid temptation unless I can't resist it" ~ Mae West
Simmons has been too up and down to bring up yet
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I would love to see who has been placed on waivers in MLB
From MLB Rumors it says that Robinson Cano, Brian Bruney, Mark Melancon and David Robertson have all cleared waivers for the Yankees.
http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2009/08/odds-ends—6.html
Who else have the A’s put on waivers?
"Whether you think you can, or you think you can't, either way, YOU'RE RIGHT !"
Just a shot in the dark
But I’m guessing that Bobby Crosby has been placed on, and has cleared, waivers. Again.
Casilla too.
The artist formerly known as HigherPie.
that doesnt stop them from still DFAing crosby
If they are cleaning out the veterans no reason to even keep him or nomar around
by Asfan4ever723 on Aug 8, 2009 12:55 PM PDT up reply actions
Crosby is a lot better to have around
Because he can actually play the field and run around the bases. Nomar… I hope the A’s release Nomar. I like the guy but he’s just taking up space these days.
I kinda hope that the A's can do it some classy way
that gets Nomar back on the Red Sox for September when the rosters expand…
"Flea Markets aren't just for blind dates anymore!"- The Reverend Billy Lard
by Gaijin_Suketto on Aug 8, 2009 1:08 PM PDT up reply actions
Love Nomar, and really would hope he can get on with the Red Sox this year.
Not sure if they have the space for him on the roster but it would be a classy way to end his career. Of course, after saying that, he will get traded and hit like Holliday has with the Cards.
"Whether you think you can, or you think you can't, either way, YOU'RE RIGHT !"
Crosby
I read he was placed on waivers again this year and passed right through. Same thing happened to Giambi. With Springer I am guessing that the twins and cards that wanted him before the deadline wanted the A’s to pick up salary. Hopefully this was money saved to sign draft picks.
I'm not an expert on the waiver process
But I am assuming that as the defending AL champions the Rays were pretty low on the waiver priority and that the Cards and Twins could have made a claim on Springer before the Rays had a chance to if they had wanted them.
Maybe someone who knows the process better can clarify.
All AL teams claim before all NL teams
(because we’re an AL team; other way around if waiver from NL).
So Rays get a shot at him before Cards.
I believe the Twins would have had priority over the Rays though.
"Go ahead and overachieve, you scrappy Brett-Favre-colored walk-takers." —Rev Halofan
Which I think is a really dumb rule but whatevs.
Dating girls is like starting pitching depth, you think you have a good full rotation, even too many starters, then in an instant as soon as you trade your depth away injuries decimate your rotation and you are forced to start Sidney Ponson.
by designatedforassignment on Aug 9, 2009 1:17 PM PDT up reply actions
Dumb in the same way that it's dumb
for Delaware to get the same number of senators as New York, I suppose.
"Go ahead and overachieve, you scrappy Brett-Favre-colored walk-takers." —Rev Halofan
Almost everybody is put on waivers this time of year, just in case
since the waivers are revokeable there is no risk and if a player clears they can be traded so its always good to have the flexibility.
Dating girls is like starting pitching depth, you think you have a good full rotation, even too many starters, then in an instant as soon as you trade your depth away injuries decimate your rotation and you are forced to start Sidney Ponson.
by designatedforassignment on Aug 8, 2009 12:55 PM PDT up reply actions
Is Springer retiring after this year?
According to the most recent version of MLBTradeRumors.com’s reverse-engineered Elias rankings, Springer was a borderline Type B free agent.
If Springer doesn’t retire and signs a major league contract next year, the A’s just gave away a sandwich pick for nothing but some salary relief. If he retires, though, no big deal.
doubt they wouldve offered arby to springer
by Asfan4ever723 on Aug 8, 2009 1:42 PM PDT up reply actions
You don't need to
Type B’s don’t require you to offer arbitration anymore to get the draft pick. Only Type A’s do.
Yeah, you do have to offer arb to Type Bs.
the A’s didn’t get a supplemental round draft pick for Embree last year because they didn’t offer arb, and he was Type B.
"I generally avoid temptation unless I can't resist it" ~ Mae West
You're right.
Looked it up. Forget what I said. Something changed about Type B’s in the latest CBA, but I’m remembering wrong.
What changed in the last CBA with Type Bs was
that the team signing the FA wouldn’t have to give up their draft pick anymore; the team losing the player would be getting a supplemental round pick instead.
"I generally avoid temptation unless I can't resist it" ~ Mae West
I'm pretty sure he's completely set on retiring after the year.
"True fact: In a global thermonuclear war, the only human who would survive would be David Eckstein" -PT
unless there was no offers for springer, and I'm pretty sure the cards offered something
it seems like this was a bad move. something has to be better than nothing.
the only positive I can possibly see is if teams know BB will not cave, he has more leverage in future trade negotiations. Out of spite he gave Springer away rather than accept crap.
"Gratuitous gesticulating together sounds even better"
This isn't a DLD
I know, but I found this link on 10th round draft pick Sam Dyson. Sounds like he won’t be signing.
Might as well Jump! - Van Halen
Sam put up a 5.21 ERA in college this year and I don't see any other impressive numbers.
why does he feel like he deserves over-slot money? For that matter what was it about him that made the A’s pick him at #10?
"Gratuitous gesticulating together sounds even better"
Isn't he the guy who throws 100 mph or something?
"And Julio Franco is batting right-handed!" -- Wayne Hagin, A's radio play-by-play, mid-80s
that would do it. you can't have too many of those guys.
"Gratuitous gesticulating together sounds even better"
98 but whose counting?
Dating girls is like starting pitching depth, you think you have a good full rotation, even too many starters, then in an instant as soon as you trade your depth away injuries decimate your rotation and you are forced to start Sidney Ponson.
by designatedforassignment on Aug 8, 2009 6:02 PM PDT up reply actions
Who saw the blurb on Aaron Cunningham?
The 23-year-old has shown some real pop with Triple-A Sacramento this season, batting .300 with nine homers and 42 RBI. Although he had a .152 batting average in 16 games with the Athletics earlier this season, he could see an increased role with Matt Holliday gone and Eric Patterson struggling.
I guess they forgot that Eric Patterson was sent back to Triple-A Sacramento a few days ago.
The Ultimate Opportunist
by Rated-R Superstar on Aug 8, 2009 2:52 PM PDT reply actions
Do the A's still pay his salary the rest of the year?
McGwire belongs in the Hall so put him there
by streetisclosedin08 on Aug 8, 2009 2:55 PM PDT reply actions
No -- you claim someone on waivers, you claim the contract
That’s why the BoSox put Manny on waivers a number of years ago — they were trying to get out from under the contract.
"And Julio Franco is batting right-handed!" -- Wayne Hagin, A's radio play-by-play, mid-80s
No. It was a straight waiver claim, so Rays pay all the remaining salary.
"I generally avoid temptation unless I can't resist it" ~ Mae West
This could be a blessing in disguise or something.
The Ultimate Opportunist
by Rated-R Superstar on Aug 8, 2009 3:23 PM PDT up reply actions
is this deal part of that new "cash for clunkers" program?
A's v Giants "is kind of like the difference between going to see the Ramones and going to see the Bee Gees. A's fans will go see the Ramones."
-BB 07/27/05
Springer for anyone?
At the July 31st deadline I thought I read at least one team, IIRC a few, were interested in Springer. Whether that was true, a firm offer made, players or what….I assume nothing was offered. But hearing this so soon after the deadline was surprising, to get nothing for him when it sounded like we could of gotten anything for him. The Cards could of tossed in a minor prospect in with the Holliday deal for him, no? Or cash even.
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