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Does a 16-43 record (.271 PCT) in the Dominican Summer League mean the A's should start up a team in the Venezuelan Summer League?

Signing one stud pitcher does not make a solidly scouted DSL team.

The best OPS on the A's DSL team is Rojas at 897. He is #14 in the DSL and we have no other hitter in the top 100. The best pitcher ERA is Merestil at 1.73 good for #19 in the DSL with no other pitcher in the top 100. Merestil is around 50th in K.

I know the A's have come out and said they are going to be more aggressive down there and they did spend a lot of money on one guy last year, but 2  players in the top 200? I don't know if they need to fire some scouts down there or if they have just been too cheap for too long, but that's not going to cut it.

Although they seem to be not getting enough high quality prospects out of the DSL, there are a ton of ex-DSL players on the ARZ rookie and A- Vancouver teams so its at least possible they had a nice crop graduate out of the DSL the last fews years leaving it bare. There is not many names creating much buzz and there has been no significant DSL player from the A's system play well for the A's in many, many years.  (Casilla's best year has been a 3.93 ERA when he had a 1.59 whip.)  

I don't know what it costs to run a team in South America, but  I think its time for the A's to start up a team in the Venezuelan summer league. There seems to be some good talent coming out of there. They could start trying a new player acquisition philosophy,  with different scouting strategy's, and do it  from the ground up.

For reference there are about 40 ML players from Venezuela with only 7 teams in the VSL or 5.7 created  per team.  The 75 players from the Dominican have 33 teams helping produce them,  or 2.27 players created per team. A dollar spent in the VSL could be equal to 2 1/2 dollars spent in the DSL.  That's a huge market inefficacy.  The A's did sign several Venezuelan IFAs this year so they are at least aware that is a market needing tapping.

Note: All players in the ML born from other country s doesn't mean they all came from a minor-league system in that country, so the numbers will be off, but most did play there. Also I would need to do some more research to see if the quality of players, say All-Stars vrs Non-All Stars,  would be highly significant between the two.

I also think some sort of partnership with a minor league system is Asia (Japan especially)  would be a good use of resources and put them well ahead of most other teams in that department. Once other teams caught on (and they would) the goal would be to start an Asian Summer League with the other five  West Coast teams.  Clearly the future of any small-market team is the minor leagues. There is no reason the A's should be limiting themselves to just the draft and one high priced Int FA signing a year, in just one league. There are  47 ML players from Japan/Taiwan/South-Korea/Australia.  I'm sure there could be another 100 Japanese players if  1)all the Japanese players wanted to play in the U.S. and 2) the Japanese teams didn't control them. That market could be worth more in total ML players than the DSL and VSL combined. If the A's were to start now they would get the first early returns and be in a position to reap the continued rewards from the new Asian Summer League.

In conclusion,

1) There is something wrong with the Dominican system and it may need to be blown up with radical new strategy's and money. 

2) The A's need to start a team in the Venezuelan Summer league to take advantage of the 5.7 players created per team.

3) The A's need to form a partnership with a team based in Asia, with recruiting from South Korea, Taiwan, Japan and Australia, to take advantage of and gain the early rights to, the 50-150 possible ML players that could come from that region with the creation of an Asian Summer League.

4) We are a low-revenue team and these things cost money. I'm going to put each option as costing the A's 2 1/2 to 5 million extra a year with the consequence that it will directly come out of the yearly payroll. The real cost could be  much less when you factor in  the A's will recoup those costs and much much more in 5 years with cheap ML salary's if things worked out as planned.  The money has to come from somewhere to start out though. So imagine the A's this year with a payroll 7.5-15 million less than it is now if you choose all options. This is a harsh reality for a small revenue team,  regardless of it being a good idea or not.

Poll
What should the A's most do with the lower minor league's assuming the major league payroll would need to be 2.5 milion-5 million dollars lower per option for the next five years?
Start Kicking ass and taking names with the Dominican Team. Blow it up with some new bold idea's and more money.
3 votes
Start a new team in the VSL
1 votes
Create a partnership with a team in Asia with the eventual goal of a new Asian Summer League
2 votes
All of the above
9 votes
None of the above
2 votes
Two of the above
3 votes

20 votes | Poll has closed

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That looks like a nice first step

they have agreed to exchange information pertaining to player development and data analysis as well as the exchange of baseball operations staff such as medical personnel. This is a very good move by the A’s but I don’t see anything in the way of actually getting Asian players into the A’s system.

Now if the A’s could spend some actual money on finding a way to scout and sign Asian players with the Eagle’s help, we will be getting somewhere. I’m not sure the equivalent level the Eagle’s play at, but would want a Japanese team or it minor league affiliate to be at or around the A+ level. They cut the mustard there, its an exchange with Stockton or a Promotion to Midland.

This would be a huge marketing opportunity for the A’s with the Asian demographic in the Bay Area once multiple players made it to the A’s. The A’s end every pre-season the last week in Japan. This might also make 50 million Japanese A’s fans with the T.V. /radio rights to go with it which could pay for the costs of running it all by itself.

"Gratuitous gesticulating together sounds even better"

by OmahaHi on Aug 7, 2009 5:15 AM PDT up reply actions  

Please clarify
The A’s end every pre-season the last week in Japan.

Huh? Are you saying they do or they should. If the latter, that’s a truly horrible idea.

Maybe it’s just time for me to go to lunch out here on the East Coast, but you lost me on the whole “cost of running/TV” thing, too. Sorry.

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by RyanFromBonas on Aug 7, 2009 9:15 AM PDT reply actions  

to help create a Japanese Market, the A's could play the last week of spring training in Japan, against Japanese teams, every year.

Or if another ML team wanted to go over to Japan, like the year we started out against Boston and played 2 real games to start the season there. I belive the A’s also played some games against Japenese teams that year. If the A’s were to do a week of spring training in Japan each and every year, as well as develop young players from Japan that made the Club , the A’s team could become very popular/the most popular team in Japan after 5 years of doing that. I don’t remember that year being truly horrible for the A’s but I could be wrong. I know this is very outside the box thinking but they could be like the Dallas Cowboys on Thanksgiving as far as being famous for having a unique Japan niche.

 Popular teams get $ from different areas of the media. the Mariners and Red Sox are making money from Japan right now. It conceivable that the T.V. rights paid for by Japan’s cable company"s etc to watch A’s games could end up being enough to support the cost of a Asian Summer League team. For me the A’s playing in Japan would be an interesting thing to try for a few years, but I’m not married to the idea and that idea isn’t the main part of the plan. The most important thing would be to establish a system of scouting and developing the young Asian players.

"Gratuitous gesticulating together sounds even better"

by OmahaHi on Aug 7, 2009 11:32 AM PDT up reply actions  

You mean, a little like, say, Barcelona are out here at the moment?

I see plusses and minuses. The players might not especially like it, and it might certainly effect the early weeks of the season (equally, it might not), but on the other hand, there is a potentially large market (Australia, too?).

On the other hand (I think that makes three hands now), how would mlb feel about it? or the players’ union? Soccerball teams have a lot more flexibility, in that regard..

by bobnothing on Aug 7, 2009 2:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

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