Close But No Cigar: A's Forget, At Crucial Times, To Swing, Catch
Here are some truths about baseball, in order of appearance in the A's 5-3 loss that gave the Mariners a series sweep:
1. It is better to be a TTO hitter than it is to be a TTO pitcher. Jack Cust's HR, which put the A's on the board tonight, his near HR that curved 1/1,000,000,000,000,000,000,000th of an inch foul, and two strikeouts left him, when the dust cleared, as one of the bright spots amongst the A's batters.
But the combination of walks, strikeouts, and HRs really doesn't work well for a pitcher. Gio Gonzalez struck out 7 tonight, dazzling at times, but also walked 3 and served up a 1st inning HR to Jose Lopez -- following a walk to Jack Hannahan -- and wound up charged with 4 runs, throwing 107 pitches in 5 innings. Fewer less walks and HRs please, Gio, and not so many of them, kthxbye.
2. It's great to be able to outrun the baseball, but you also need to catch it. Rajai Davis dropped two fly balls tonight after running them down, one generously ruled a double, the second ruled an error. The error came with the A's trailing just 4-3 in the 7th, and was followed by a broken-bat single to LF by Mike Sweeney. Scott Hairston, whose defense continues to underwhelm me, made a looping and offline throw that was still going to get the runner -- except that Kurt Suzuki didn't catch this one either.
3. When the tying run is at 1st base, he gets home better when you swing at strikes. With two on and nobody out in the 9th, first Tommy Everidge watched three fastballs, each one more down the middle than the last, then Nomar was called out on strikes on yes, a borderline pitch, but c'mon guys. Seriously, stop making Ed Crosby look good because that's hard to do.
A few other observations...
* Where was Daric Barton? It's weird how the A's seem to platoon Barton, not starting him against LHPs, sometimes pinch-hitting for him against a LHP -- yet they don't do this with Everidge or Nomar against RHPs. Do the A's believe that right-handed hitters can hit RHP but left-handed hitters can't hit LHP? Barton probably should have hit for Everidge leading off the 7th, definitely should have pinch-hit for Everidge in the 9th, and arguably should have been the choice to hit for Pennington.
* This was the major league debut calling "balls and strikes" for Dan Bellino and I thought he did a great job. (Nomar probably disagrees.)
* Jeff Gray looked better than I've seen him at any time, throwing 95MPH with movement, locating his pitches, and fooling hitters when he pulled the string with his slider. I haven't been especially impressed with Gray previously, but tonight was impressive. He has passed Santiago Casilla on the depth chart (as has 1/2 of AN) and he's moving in the right direction. Keep an eye...
* I'll never root for the A's to lose, but given that they have here's tonight's "silver lining": The A's entered play in a flat-footed tie with Cleveland for overall record (which impacts draft position). Cleveland won tonight. Go Indians!
Reminder: If your schedule says that the A's don't play tomorrow, your schedule is lying to you. The A's and Angels play at 7:25pm, in the makeup game for the April 9th game that was canceled following the Nick Adenhart tragedy.
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no cigar, indeed
a broom for Seattle, broomed the A’s, that is.
I was surprised that free-swinging Nomar struck out looking.
by OaklandSi on Aug 26, 2009 10:16 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Alternate Title
A’s noosed by the moose
"Do I talk to myself? No, I just remind myself of what I'm trying to do. You know, I never answer myself so how can I be talking to myself?" - Rickey
by cuppingmaster on Aug 26, 2009 10:16 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Grrrr!
Hey, Raburn! YOU ever dive into the shallow end of a pool?--noava22
by lynnzgal on Aug 26, 2009 10:28 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I know, it's terrible
I have a 7 am dentist’s appt tomorrow before work…ugh
by OaklandSi on Aug 26, 2009 10:32 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm sorry.
Your sig cracks me up every time I read it.
“CAR-LOS! hey, CAR-LOS!”
Grant Green stings the sting of a million Cliff Penningtons. -ElQuesoCapitan
by pam5981 on Aug 26, 2009 11:35 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
That was good stuff.
"I’m Joey Devine, I’m what Joba Chamberlain would be if he was good and nobody had ever heard of him."
by mikev on Aug 26, 2009 11:40 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
That was MEMORABLE stuff!
There were so many things that were.
Hey, Raburn! YOU ever dive into the shallow end of a pool?--noava22
by lynnzgal on Aug 27, 2009 12:08 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Plus I got to play with some adorable babies for 7 innings.
Grant Green stings the sting of a million Cliff Penningtons. -ElQuesoCapitan
by pam5981 on Aug 27, 2009 12:20 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Thanks
oh you mean the real babies, (not me & nova)
PREPAREDNESS_Because those goddamn zombies aren’t going to kill themselves
by adragon on Aug 27, 2009 12:22 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
louismg being there with the babies blew me away,
I must say. It was hilar. When I saw the twins I yelled out (in a very noava way) Twins? Then you must be louismg! He was very taken aback, lol!
Hey, Raburn! YOU ever dive into the shallow end of a pool?--noava22
by lynnzgal on Aug 27, 2009 12:29 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
No, I meant you.
Grant Green stings the sting of a million Cliff Penningtons. -ElQuesoCapitan
by pam5981 on Aug 27, 2009 12:36 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Good, (I think)
PREPAREDNESS_Because those goddamn zombies aren’t going to kill themselves
by adragon on Aug 27, 2009 8:48 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
River Cats beat Fresno 11-3
Carter 3-for-5 with the double and 4 RBI.
Reno won their game so if what I’ve read is correct Sacramento’s magic number is 1. Maybe I’ll see them clinch tomorrow night.
The Oakland A's: Pissing off fathers of disappointing baseball players who still managed to be better than their dads (charter club members: Tom Grieve & Ed Crosby)
Last of the Ninth - Photography
by Flashfire on Aug 26, 2009 10:28 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
bring carter up NOW!
come on, he’s hitting .600! what more does he have to prove?
by Future Ed on Aug 26, 2009 10:33 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
maybe TWO days in Triple-A?
Grant Green stings the sting of a million Cliff Penningtons. -ElQuesoCapitan
by pam5981 on Aug 26, 2009 10:36 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
LOL Pam
I always thought and hoped Carter would not be rushed.
He needs to spend time in AAA
Certainly has done a great job of cutting down the K’s from last year.
If he keeps inproving then 2010 and beyond is looking better all the time. I don’t follow the minors like most of you guys do but I would think he would not be up here until after the AS break of 2010 at the earliest but lets see him keep on improving and make the decision for us
by Trainman on Aug 26, 2009 10:40 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
IF
he keeps putting up the numbers he’s putting up (AA, not game one at AAA), AS break of 2010 is the absolute earliest I’d want to see him in the majors. Preferably for his cup of coffee at AAA season’s end.
CuttheMullet, from "The Thread":
"Whenever I’m about to do something, I think "would an idiot do that?" and if they would, I do not do that thing."
by DMOAS on Aug 26, 2009 10:56 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I agree with this,
although Cotroneo was speculating that Carter might even get a cup of coffee this year after the PCL post-season is over, and I’d actually be okay with this too. It wouldn’t burn an option and he’s gonna have to be added to the 40-man this winter anyway, so why not give him two weeks to check out big league pitching? Of course, if the A’s go this route, somebody – Billy, David, Bob etc. – needs to explain to Chris that this is not a permanent move, and he should expect to spend the better part of next season at AAA.
Bob Garen is incontinent
by Aufheben on Aug 27, 2009 10:10 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
not on the 40 man
no reason to add him at this point in the season.
by Future Ed on Aug 27, 2009 1:52 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
talk about bringing in a ringer
great timing for the r’cats, get a stud masher to help them win another PCL title.
by sf drift king on Aug 27, 2009 8:45 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Doesn't Barton have a nagging injury
Can’t recall, think something was said on the Radio open.
The final home weekend will be a throw down drag out fight for 8th and 9th draft position. Exciting.
by Future Ed on Aug 26, 2009 10:31 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
his quad isn't 100 percent yet
but I think he’s ok to play, just not to do splits
by OaklandSi on Aug 26, 2009 10:32 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I really felt that....
The decision to have Cust’s drive reviewed was a momentum changer…he just gave up the drive to Suzuki and then Cust’s…Gave the pitcher plenty of time to relax and gether his thoughts….
by mikeprooo on Aug 26, 2009 10:33 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I'm of the mind that the team has to overcome outside distractions.
Its the mark of a team ready to compete. I thought they were close. Apparently they weren’t close enough.
Hey, Raburn! YOU ever dive into the shallow end of a pool?--noava22
by lynnzgal on Aug 26, 2009 10:54 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
good point
Better to just let Jack hit another one.
"Go ahead and overachieve, you scrappy Brett-Favre-colored walk-takers." —Rev Halofan
by iglew on Aug 26, 2009 10:50 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I watched the game at a friends house while playing poker
Let’s just say the poker game went better than the A’s game, (nice effort guys way to get swept). Raji should have been charged with two errors and there is no excuse for walking Hannahan once let alone twice. That meat ball Lopez hit out deserved to be hit to Portland, (it was that bad). Nice job by Zook & Cust bringing them back but there was to much AK & Hairston flying/popping out on the first pitch they saw, (does anybody else think AK should be moved from the lead off spot?). Here is the line up I would use for now.
1) Raji CF (speed kills), 2) Ellis 2B (.363/.384/.525 in August), 3) Zooks C (59 RBI’s leads A’s), 4) Cust DH (ride him while he’s hot), 5) Hairston LF (no better alternative ) 6) AK 3B (.366 with RISP), 7) Sweeny RF (I love his defense) 8) Barton/Tommy T 1B (good old platoon) 9) Pennington SS (call me crazy but I like what I have seen so far from him this year)
I think with this line up the A’s could compete the rest of the year so of course Geren will do the opposite. Sadly I think we will see many more days of Nomar at 1B & Cust in RF to end the season. Maybe I will be lucky & get struck blind in a freak XBOX 360 accident.
PREPAREDNESS_Because those goddamn zombies aren’t going to kill themselves
by adragon on Aug 26, 2009 11:48 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
After scoring 3 runs or fewer...
in 9 of the last 10 games, it is obvious how bad this team’s offense is. They need to add two significant established hitters in the off season, or it will be more of the same next season. Horrible!!!
by Keystone State on Aug 27, 2009 5:30 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
pick 2 of these established hitter who will be free agents:
Holliday
Giambi
O. Cabrera
This route didin’t help much last offseason
They need to add two significant established hitters in the off season
"just a beating heart ... plasma that we'll put into our uniform." - Billy Beane
by athleticsBB4life on Aug 27, 2009 7:59 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Holliday...
with a contract past 1 season would have been totally different, Giambi was washed up when he came, O. Cab marginal at best. I mean some guys that can actually hit the fuckin ball and drive in some runs.
by Keystone State on Aug 27, 2009 12:34 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
For once I am glad that I had errands to run and didnt get to see this fine performance by the boys in Green and Gold!!
There is no A in OFFENSE!!
by wacchampions on Aug 27, 2009 12:30 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Question
and arguably should have been the choice to hit for Pennington.
Do we have a backup SS?
"Surely these gents are talking about the dashing rookie campaign of southpaw Jamie Moyer. Now, that cat is on the up and up." JLaff, in 1929.
by travdog6 on Aug 27, 2009 12:31 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
This is so sad
PREPAREDNESS_Because those goddamn zombies aren’t going to kill themselves
by adragon on Aug 27, 2009 8:49 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Missed the game
Saw August: Osage County instead. Third row center seats for the best American play of the new century.
Talk about a family more dysfunctional than a Bobby Crosby two-strike low and outside swing.
by richwol1 on Aug 27, 2009 12:34 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Really?
I’ve been wondering about that. It looked intriguing.
Hey, Raburn! YOU ever dive into the shallow end of a pool?--noava22
by lynnzgal on Aug 27, 2009 12:37 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
See it if you can
This is the best writing I’ve seen in a play since “Angels in America,” and some of the best acting I’ve ever seen - and I’ve seen some great acting on Broadway over the years - particularly 80 year old Estelle Parsons as the matriarch of the dysfunctional clan. Kind of like if Eugene O’Neill wrote a side-splitting comedy, but it was still Eugene O’Neill.
I suspect it’s a play that will be performed a lot by community theaters over the next few years, but you’ll never see this quality of acting nor staging (the set is incredible) again.
by richwol1 on Aug 27, 2009 12:43 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
That's high praise
Angels in America was the best I’ve ever seen on stage
by OaklandSi on Aug 27, 2009 6:15 AM PDT via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
"He has passed Santiago Casilla on the depth chart (as has 1/2 of AN)"
I passed Jairo sometime in May I believe, where have you been?
:-)
Is this the real life-
Is this just fantasy-
Caught in a landslide-
No escape from reality-
by Daniel777 on Aug 27, 2009 12:57 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Our RiverCat roster continues to expand.
Competition for roster spots may prove very interesting in ST next year. I’m thinking Wallace will make next years squad by default. Carter may end up playing his way to the A’s by the ASB. The pen may be next years best team feature. I hope the Cats bring their winning ways up with them.
"You may glory in a team triumphant, but you fall in love with a team in defeat."--The Boys of Summer
by alox on Aug 27, 2009 6:06 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I hope so too
but it hasn’t happened in the past.. just sayin.
by sf drift king on Aug 27, 2009 8:53 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I luv Rajai
but he’s no better than an average CF. I think some of you at AN day rated him as above average?? perhaps due to his speed, but I’m not sold on his overall game and doesn’t think he as well as AK should be factored into our long term plans.
by sf drift king on Aug 27, 2009 8:52 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I will grant you this: Rajai is more prone to flat out clanking
fly balls he has run down and “caught” than just last night’s debacle. But I still think he’s a tick above average due to his speed, his routes going back / in the alley for balls, and good arm. It’s nights like last night that prevent him from being flat out “good” but let’s face it — he doesn’t do that every other day.
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
by Nico on Aug 27, 2009 9:21 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think a lot of his problems last night were because of his thumb
but I agree he is an average CF at best. He might have the single worst jump on a fly ball I have ever seen. His speed makes up for a huge amount of bad jumps/reads.
PREPAREDNESS_Because those goddamn zombies aren’t going to kill themselves
by adragon on Aug 27, 2009 11:10 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Trouble is, the bad thumb is on the right hand
Though I wouldn’t be surprised to learn that Larry Davis snuck Rajai a thumb guard for his left hand “just cuz.” In which case, expect it to cause an allergic reaction leading to amputation.
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
by Nico on Aug 27, 2009 11:13 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
as long as they don't cut off his legs
I was watching the LLWS and I think I found the perfect job for Raji. How does, “Special Pinch Runner” sound to you?
PREPAREDNESS_Because those goddamn zombies aren’t going to kill themselves
by adragon on Aug 27, 2009 11:25 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Speaking of odd categories, I noticed a football player
listed as being on the “Physically Unable To Perform” list. What does that mean and how do we get Bobby Crosby on it?
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
by Nico on Aug 27, 2009 11:31 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I always quietly had hope for Rajai since he came over from the Giants
(easy to say after his hot streak, of course, but true anyway)…but I figure he’ll end up leveling out at average at best over the long run. He’s got definite speed and seems to have some decent baseball skills, but also exhibits a trend for not executing those skills correctly at times. As long as the good half of “average” comes in nice long streaky stretches, that along with his speed and recent knack for injecting a sense of chance/hope/life into game situations would make me happy to see him playing regularly until stronger players come up or are acquired.
That is, of course, unless he starts sucking. :-P
I would love to see this guy make a graph showing the spectrum of love/hate for Rajai on AN since coming across the bay last year.
by Jackson23 on Aug 27, 2009 10:20 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hairston
His overall play has left me underwhelmed…maybe his sore hammy is impacting his play more than we realize, but I just don’t really think he’s that great of a player even when fully healthy. He has the ability to hit some homers and steal some bases and play adequate defense, but he doesn’t get on base enough to really do a lot of consistent damage. His plate approach/swing reminds me a lot like a less-talented and less-successful version of Nomar…he guesses a lot of the time and tries to yank everything…that’ll get a player a few homers when everything clicks, but will leave the overall stat-line wanting..
If he can hack-it in center as a league-average defender, then he’s a pretty useful player…but if he can’t, I don’t really want to see him starting next year day in and day out over Cunningham and Buck, especially when he’ll make like 4 times as much in salary as those two in his second arbitration year.
I'm never gonna do it without the fez on!
by Taj Adib on Aug 27, 2009 9:22 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I've been underwhelmed too
I like the 20/20 potential, and if your 2-3-4 were successful major league versions of Cardenas-Wallace-Carter, then Hairston might fit nicely as a good “minor threat” following the major threats. He should be hitting around 5th against LHP and around 7th against RHP.
I like how he hits lefties, and let’s not forget how putrid this team was against LHP in the first half of the season. However, he’s a pretty pedestrian hitter against RHP and most surprisingly to me has been his defense: Poor routes, meh judgment, a weak and not especially accurate arm.
Overall: “Underwhelmed” is a good word for it, thanks in part to his defense.
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
by Nico on Aug 27, 2009 9:28 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
likewise
but here’s what I don’t understand, everybody (not at this site) can make excuses about Holliday’s first half struggles blaming it on the new league, adjusting to a new park, etc.. So I ask, why isn’t Hairston afforded the same transition excuses/theories?
I don’t think we should give up on him so quickly. I mean we did give up an AN favorite in Gallagher. And like taj said, Hairston is nursing a sore hammy. So I’m gonna allow him some time to adjust and get acquainted with his new surroundings before I make any bold predictions on his game, but thus far the word that comes to mind for me too is, underwhelmed.
by sf drift king on Aug 27, 2009 9:51 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm definitely optimistic that when healthy/adjusted,
Hairston’s defense will improve. Heck, all I knew about him when the trade occurred was that the A’s thought he might be able to play CF. That tells me he ought to at least be able to play a very solid LF.
I’m less optimistic about his hitting against RHP, as his career OBP is .290. But his line against LHP (career .291/.343/.541) is why I think the A’s targeted him, and in a lineup so lefty heavy Hairston can be a useful addition.
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
by Nico on Aug 27, 2009 9:56 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
The "adjustment period" is a good point to bring up.
Judging by his remarks about leaving the Padres, it sure seemed like Hairston had become quite comfortable in San Diego and perhaps he’s just having a bit of a tough time adjusting to his new environment. I guess a better time to judge his overall ability to succeed in Oakland might be after the regular season.
However, from what I’ve seen, I’ve just been underwhelmed .His career stats seem to show that he’s a good a defensive left fielder and average center fielder and can hit lefties well. To me, a guy like that would be an asset in center field, possibly as the main starter who gets an occasional breather by a guy like Rajai, who brings a different aspect to the game, but shouldn’t really be an everyday player.
Overall, I would like to see Cunningham and Buck get extended looks at left field or right field in September and next season, and I think that while Hairston is a decent player, he’s going to be 30 next season and has pretty much plateaued as a player, while Buck and Cunningham are still progressing towards their respective ceilings.
I'm never gonna do it without the fez on!
by Taj Adib on Aug 27, 2009 10:52 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I've been underwhelmed...
with the A’s inability to hit, advance runners and score runs the entire season. Nobody is exempt.
by Keystone State on Aug 27, 2009 12:38 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hey, I'm past Santiago Casilla on the depth chart.
Things are looking up.
by Jackson23 on Aug 27, 2009 10:24 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs























