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A's Preliminary AFL Roster Announced

The preliminary roster for this years' Arizona Fall League has been released.  While the A's are required by Major League Baseball to provide 6 players to the AFL, the A's AFL affiliate, the Desert Dogs, only listed three A's Jemile Weeks, Corey Brown, and Grant Desme.

Star-divide

Here are the rules for eligibility:

Each Major League organization is required to provide six players subject to the following requirements:

  • All Triple-A and Double-A players are eligible, provided the players are on at least a Double-A level roster no later than Aug. 1.
  • One player below the Double-A level is allowed per Major League team.
  • One foreign player is allowed, as long as the player does not reside in a country that participates in winter ball, as part of the Caribbean Confederation or the Australian winter league.
  • No players with more than one year of credited Major League service as of August 31 are eligible, except a team may select one player picked in the most recently concluded Major League Rule 5 Draft.
  • To be eligible, players on Minor League disabled lists must be activated at least 45 days before the conclusion of their respective seasons.

Every other team that feeds the Desert Dogs has contributed three pitcher, including the Nationals Stephen Strausberg, except for the Oakland A's.  Usually, top pitching prospects don't go to the AFL as it increases innings and with the dry air, pitchers get battered around a bit.  Tyson Ross would seem like a good candidate, but he has already pitched 125 innings this year after only 92 innings at Berkeley and in the A's system last year.  Capra could be the one exception for being under AA, and he pitched a fair number of innings last year. However, his 135 innings this year is probably pushing how much mileage the A's are going to put on his arm.  FDLS will need innings but I would think that the A's would want to control those more than they could in the AFL.  Carlos Hernandez would be an interesting choice if they were going to try to fast track him, but again he has thrown 147 innings.

Here are my guesses at the A's pitching component:

Henry Rodriguez:  Being on the 40 man roster means that he needs to get to the bigs soon, and is under his innings numbers from last year.

James Simmons:  He is under his innings from last year and the A's are going to need him to be ready for the inevitable injury next year, and if not to hopefully rebuild his trade value.  He will be rule 5 eligible at the end of the 2010 anyway so he will need to be placed on the roster.

Clayton Mortensen:  He is exactly like Simmons except for being on the 40 man.  If Eveland doesn't make the team out of spring training it is likely he will be lost on waivers. If that is the case Mortensen will likely be the first starter called up to fill in for injury.  Otherwise the A's are going to need to try to boost his trade value which isn't that high right now.

Who are your picks?

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I thought the AFL merged with the NFL.

You have to be a hardcore baseball junkie to watch fall league games.

by sirbed on Aug 25, 2009 4:14 PM PDT reply actions  

No you really don't

Fall and Winter League games are often better than summer games.

You do that and pretty soon your world turns into some kind of crazy postmodernist dystopian nightmare where nothing is actually true anymore. - Paul Thomas

by designatedforassignment on Aug 25, 2009 4:31 PM PDT up reply actions  

I'd be willing to bet that 80% of baseball fans have never heard of the AFL

and maybe 1-2% if that have actually seen a game but hey if that floats your boat then rock on DFA.

by sirbed on Aug 25, 2009 5:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

I thought the AFL disbanded.

Which is a shame, because the Sabercats were awesome.

by LoneStranger on Aug 26, 2009 9:24 AM PDT up reply actions  

My sister went to Stockton this morning. Here's what she had to say:

I’m fantastic! One guy tried to grab my kibbles & bits, another informed me he could have sex with me, a woman yelled at me for not giving her a phone (I think) and I spotted a guy wearing an “I heart hot moms” shirt. All in all a stellar visit!

by LoneStranger on Aug 26, 2009 12:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

Aussie Rules Footbal is still going on

in Australia.

PS. It is awesome and you should watch it.

You do that and pretty soon your world turns into some kind of crazy postmodernist dystopian nightmare where nothing is actually true anymore. - Paul Thomas

by designatedforassignment on Aug 26, 2009 9:48 AM PDT up reply actions  

We have a winner!

Desme spent the year playing in KCC (Low-A) and Stockton (High-A).

The monster at the end of this blog.

by grover on Aug 25, 2009 5:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

Good catch

So Capra is officially eliminated as is FDLS

You do that and pretty soon your world turns into some kind of crazy postmodernist dystopian nightmare where nothing is actually true anymore. - Paul Thomas

by designatedforassignment on Aug 25, 2009 5:19 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions  

Arnold Leon is an option if they want to stretch him out to starting

It's not the results, it's how you look going about those results -- Tim McCarver

by WaddellCanseco on Aug 25, 2009 5:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yes

Leon is already being stretched out in Midland. Seems like a perfect choice.

by Colorado Fan on Aug 25, 2009 6:28 PM PDT up reply actions  

Marty Lurie is talking about the AZL rosters

In addition to the A’s organization postion players he also mentioned some of the more recognizable names in minor league ball who will be playing, including Buster Posey and Steven Strasburg. Marty usually writes about the AZL, as he goes every year.

by OaklandSi on Aug 25, 2009 5:58 PM PDT via mobile reply actions  

A few ANers attend Fall Ball.

If fall wasn’t so busy for me at work I would definitely consider it.

Grant Green stings the sting of a million Cliff Penningtons. -ElQuesoCapitan

by pam5981 on Aug 25, 2009 6:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

Take me with you!!!!!!!!

You do that and pretty soon your world turns into some kind of crazy postmodernist dystopian nightmare where nothing is actually true anymore. - Paul Thomas

by designatedforassignment on Aug 25, 2009 6:55 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions  

Should we get a room?

Eek.

The Oakland A's: Pissing off fathers of disappointing baseball players who still managed
to be better than their dads (charter club members: Tom Grieve & Ed Crosby)
Last of the Ninth - Photography

by Flashfire on Aug 25, 2009 7:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

Im more than willing to sleep head to toe or on the floor :-P

You do that and pretty soon your world turns into some kind of crazy postmodernist dystopian nightmare where nothing is actually true anymore. - Paul Thomas

by designatedforassignment on Aug 25, 2009 8:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

i'm guessing remaining spots among

leon
ross
demel
banwart or godfrey- they arent considered top prospects, but in that next tier of sp prospects that they might want to challenge
horton- i wouldnt be surprised if they send him, might be the only decent upper level SS remaining in the system
carter – his HWB last yr was terrible., maybe he’s proven himself enough to the A’s front office they might pass on AFL invite
carignan/doolittle- would hey repeat the AFL to get regain some offseason AB’s they missed due to injuries?

by Asfan4ever723 on Aug 25, 2009 6:31 PM PDT reply actions  

Just 'cuz it's kinda fun:

Weeks, Desme, C. Brown, A. Leon, Justin Friend, Sam Demel

Midland Update: Arnold Leon has completed 5 innings of shutout ball. Chris Carter his HR #24

by Colorado Fan on Aug 25, 2009 6:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

Friend has thrown a lot of innings so far

and hasn’t pitched for a while so I don’t think that hes going to be going

Demel has had a full season and isn’t on the 40 man so I think he is a good choice to stay home compared to Henriguez.

Leon seems like an excellent AFL candidate. Probably with Mortensen.

You do that and pretty soon your world turns into some kind of crazy postmodernist dystopian nightmare where nothing is actually true anymore. - Paul Thomas

by designatedforassignment on Aug 25, 2009 7:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

Henry is a Venezuelan though. Mightn't he have to play winter ball there?

I didn’t think Mexico was a Caribbean country, but it might be and if so, Leon might have to play there.

It's not the results, it's how you look going about those results -- Tim McCarver

by WaddellCanseco on Aug 25, 2009 7:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

Youre right

Both Mexico and Venezuela participate in the Caribbean Series so they would be excluded.

You do that and pretty soon your world turns into some kind of crazy postmodernist dystopian nightmare where nothing is actually true anymore. - Paul Thomas

by designatedforassignment on Aug 25, 2009 8:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

friend probably won't go

i’m friends with him and saw him in his last outing with stockton. he told me that he thought he was about to be shut down on an innings cap, but then suddenly got promoted to midland.

"If you hit .440 with 20 bombs, you don't have to do s---. You don't have to bring a glove to practice, just hit and leave whenever you want. You can bring a 40 and smoke a cigarette and call me from the parking lot asking me what time the game is, and I'll tell you. You can even say 'F--- you, Steve!' Actually, don't say that, that wouldn't be very nice." -Steve Friend, Head Coach, Chabot College Gladiators Baseball

by flipgatey3 on Aug 26, 2009 11:16 AM PDT up reply actions  

Maybe he got promoted to sit on the bench.

Practice for when he reaches the big club, no doubt.

by LoneStranger on Aug 26, 2009 12:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

MLB and BA reporting that the A's will send 4 pitchers to the AFL

You do that and pretty soon your world turns into some kind of crazy postmodernist dystopian nightmare where nothing is actually true anymore. - Paul Thomas

by designatedforassignment on Aug 26, 2009 12:20 AM PDT reply actions  

And Strasburg will be on the Phoenix team with any A's prospects

The Oakland A's: Pissing off fathers of disappointing baseball players who still managed to be better than their dads (charter club members: Tom Grieve & Ed Crosby)
Last of the Ninth - Photography

by Flashfire on Aug 26, 2009 12:33 AM PDT up reply actions  

yup yup I mentioned it in the paragraph right below the eligibility rules.

You do that and pretty soon your world turns into some kind of crazy postmodernist dystopian nightmare where nothing is actually true anymore. - Paul Thomas

by designatedforassignment on Aug 26, 2009 1:02 AM PDT up reply actions  

I'll guess...

Leon
Simmons
Demel
Kilby

The monster at the end of this blog.

by grover on Aug 26, 2009 7:20 AM PDT up reply actions  

I’ll say Leon, Simmons, Lansford, Henry Rodriguez

matthewpouliot - "Still not sure which is more rare: the unassisted triple play or Francoeur taking two pitches to start the AB."

by CaliforniaJag on Aug 27, 2009 12:07 AM PDT up reply actions  

except two of those player cant go

You do that and pretty soon your world turns into some kind of crazy postmodernist dystopian nightmare where nothing is actually true anymore. - Paul Thomas

by designatedforassignment on Aug 27, 2009 12:09 AM PDT up reply actions  

Whoops

Rodriguez and Leon are both foreign. Who is the other one?

matthewpouliot - "Still not sure which is more rare: the unassisted triple play or Francoeur taking two pitches to start the AB."

by CaliforniaJag on Aug 27, 2009 12:11 AM PDT up reply actions  

Meaning who is the other one who can’t go

matthewpouliot - "Still not sure which is more rare: the unassisted triple play or Francoeur taking two pitches to start the AB."

by CaliforniaJag on Aug 27, 2009 12:11 AM PDT up reply actions  

Ah

I guess Henry Rodriguez falls in that same category. Bah.

Fine. James Simmons, Jared Lansford, Sam Demel, and Tyson Ross then.

matthewpouliot - "Still not sure which is more rare: the unassisted triple play or Francoeur taking two pitches to start the AB."

by CaliforniaJag on Aug 27, 2009 12:13 AM PDT up reply actions  

Rodriguez and Leon makes two!

You do that and pretty soon your world turns into some kind of crazy postmodernist dystopian nightmare where nothing is actually true anymore. - Paul Thomas

by designatedforassignment on Aug 27, 2009 12:11 AM PDT up reply actions  

Leon can't go because Mexico plays in the Carribean Confederation

You do that and pretty soon your world turns into some kind of crazy postmodernist dystopian nightmare where nothing is actually true anymore. - Paul Thomas

by designatedforassignment on Aug 27, 2009 12:10 AM PDT up reply actions  

Oops

Then Godfrey or Benacka…

probably Benacka

The monster at the end of this blog.

by grover on Aug 27, 2009 8:21 AM PDT up reply actions  

Why no Doolittle?

Will he still be hurt? Are the A’s more concerned with getting Brown, Desme, and Weeks at-bats? Both?

by drink on Aug 26, 2009 7:36 AM PDT reply actions  

All of the other A's that are going were also hurt.

Plus Doolittle won’t meet the requirement of being off the DL for 45 days before the end of Sacramento’s season so he isn’t eligible.

You do that and pretty soon your world turns into some kind of crazy postmodernist dystopian nightmare where nothing is actually true anymore. - Paul Thomas

by designatedforassignment on Aug 26, 2009 9:50 AM PDT up reply actions  

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