8/17 Minor Athletics
by asyouwish33 on Aug 18, 2009 2:45 PM PDT
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Sorry about the delay. Here are the scores from yesterday's games.
Sacramento Rivercats: 76-46, 1st Place (Five Homers hit in the game)
Final 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 R H E Sacramento 0 1 0 0 1 0 0 0 1 2 5 12 0 Memphis 3 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 3 8 0 Wallace 3B: 2-4, R, HR (10), RBI, K, .293
Buck PH-RF: 2-2, .286
Cardenas 2B: 1-4, R, HR (1), RBI, .211
Eveland SP: ND, 6 IP, 2 ER, 0 BB, 6 K, 4.09 ERA
Midland Rockhounds: 2nd Half Record 29-21, 1st
Final 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 R H E Midland 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 5 2 Tulsa 1 0 0 2 0 0 0 0 X 3 5 0 Carter 1B: 2-3, BB, .331
Spencer DH: 2-4, .324
Weeks 2B: 0-2, BB, K, .225
Ross SP: L (2-3), 4 IP, 3 ER, 4 BB, 0 K, 6.33 ERA
Stockton Ports: 2nd Half Record (29-21) DID NOT PLAY
Kane County Cougars: 2nd Half Record (24-27) 4th
Final 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 R H E Kane County 0 0 1 0 2 2 1 1 0 7 16 2 Burlington 0 1 1 1 0 0 0 0 2 5 7 2 Leyja 2B: 2-4, R, RBI, BB, K, .259
Parker 1B: 4-5, 2 2B, 4 RBI, .229
Spina 3B: 3-4, R, HR (7), RBI, BB, .266
Ramirez SP: 6 IP, 3 R, 2 ER, 2 BB, 3 K, 3.47 ERA
Vancouver Canadians (26-31) 3rd Place
Final 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 R H E Tri-City 2 0 1 0 1 2 0 4 0 10 13 1 Vancouver 0 0 0 0 0 1 0 0 2 3 4 2 Crumbliss 2B-LF: 2-4, R, 2B, .301
Straily SP: L (2-3), 5 IP, 5 ER, 2 BB, 7 K, 5.01 ERA
AZL A's won 7-3
DSL A's tied 1-1 in 6 innings.
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Congratulations to Adrian Cardenas for his first Triple-A home run and Dana Eveland finally had a good start.
Jemile Weeks started off hot and has cooled off since, but I’m not worried.
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by Rated-R Superstar on Aug 18, 2009 2:52 PM PDT reply actions
It should be noted that Chris Carter actually made the start out in Left Field
This is actually his 14th start this year in the OF, but if can recall, he hasn’t been out there in awhile. I don’t know whether to make anything of this or not, considering Spencer DH-ed and Peterson was at 1st, so maybe it was just a way to get all those guys in the lineup.
Secondly, after a solid last few games, Brett Wallace has brought his OPS up to .837 in 23 games with the Rivercats. Obviously, small sample size, but the 4 homers in 23 games versus 6 in 62 with Memphis is looking better. Again, small sample size, but if he can maintain these numbers through the end of the season, that will make quite a few people happy, he’s slugging about 50 points higher with Sacto…
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He's been out there in RF a lot in August.
Sometimes they put him in RF and Peterson at first, and sometimes it’s Carter at first and Peterson in right. I think they’re just trying to increase Carter’s versatility. Plus, with Wallace set to play 1B for the 2010 A’s, Carter needs a new position.
until we see Wallace really playing more 1B than 3B
I think we have to assume he’ll get a shot in the bigs at 3rd. Plus, everyone has been raving about Carter’s development at 1st, that it’s not Gold Glove caliber, but it’s still much better than many assumed. So it’s too soon to be giving Carter another position until that happens.
Plus, I can’t imagine Carter being too versatile in a corner OF spot, but we’ll wait and see what happens…
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by stranahanahan on Aug 18, 2009 4:27 PM PDT up reply actions
I'm kind of foreseeing this rotation in the bigs if these players come up:
2010: Wallace 3B, Doolittle 1B
2011: Wallace 3B, Carter 1B, Doolittle RF
2012 on: Cardenas 3B, Wallace 1B/DH, Carter LF/DH, Doolittle RF/1B
It seems like the 2012 team would be a great candidate to use the DH rotationally, with Carter, Wallace, and maybe even Doolittle, Weeks, and Cardenas getting “partial days off” by way of DHing.
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Are you talking midseason call-ups?
"I did nothing. I did absolutely nothing, and it was everything that I thought it could be." -- Peter Gibbons
Whenever if ever, those years
Just really suggesting the progression over time, not necessarily exactly year by year.
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yea
just wondering. I think Doolittle is further out (but possibly mid 10 call-up) and Cardenas maybe up in 11 at some point…
"I did nothing. I did absolutely nothing, and it was everything that I thought it could be." -- Peter Gibbons
I think had he been healthy this season,
Doolittle would have been on track to start at 1B in 2010, or win the RF job if personnel made that a better place for him to play. Now, I see him starting 2010 in AAA and maybe being ready in June or so.
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yea i'm bummed he has been set back pretty much all year
"I did nothing. I did absolutely nothing, and it was everything that I thought it could be." -- Peter Gibbons
When I was down at spring training,
scouts were raving about Doolittle like they felt he was about ready for the big leagues already. He would certainly have been up in 2009 had he not gotten hurt.
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hadn't heard that...
that’s pretty cool though, so ’10 is not so far-fetched as I thought it would be after missing time.. providing he picks up where he left off…
"I did nothing. I did absolutely nothing, and it was everything that I thought it could be." -- Peter Gibbons
...
Barton vs. Doolittle
-Barton is a better hitter.
-Barton is a better fielder.
No way Doolittle plays at 1B instead of Barton next year.
With stout hearts, and with enthusiasm for the contest, let us go forward to victory. ----Hero Defector Montgomery
I think Doolittle has shown more HR power in the minors so far
and everyone raves about his defense, so I think the A’s evaluate him as about even with Barton with the glove.
"And Julio Franco is batting right-handed!" -- Wayne Hagin, A's radio play-by-play, mid-80s
Everyone raving about his defense=someone raved about his defense when drafted and everyone repeats it
He is big and lumbering/not quick. His defensive numbers are quite bad; Barton’s are great.
Doolittles HR numbers are better, but not by all that much (5-6 over a full season) and Barton is better at in every other part of the game. Higher BA, way more BBs, fewer Ks.
With stout hearts, and with enthusiasm for the contest, let us go forward to victory. ----Hero Defector Montgomery
Did not know that Barton had 30 HR power.
Don't believe in yourself.
Believe in Me who believes in You.
Doolittle has 30 HRs in 1000 pas....
With stout hearts, and with enthusiasm for the contest, let us go forward to victory. ----Hero Defector Montgomery
IMO
Until Barton proves that he can handle major league pitching again (or even AAA pitching consistently for that matter) he’s a non-entity at this point. I feel that Wallace, Carter, and Doolittle (and maybe even Everidge) are already above or ready to pass Barton on the depth chart.
"Their batters are patient to the point that it's annoying." -Ryan Franklin
by Helloooo 1st on Aug 18, 2009 7:41 PM PDT up reply actions
I could just as well say "Doolittle needs to prove he can handle AA pitching"....
Doolittle is not even close to passing Barton on the depth chart.
With stout hearts, and with enthusiasm for the contest, let us go forward to victory. ----Hero Defector Montgomery
Doolittle was holding his own in AAA.
Soo not sure what he has to prove at AA. Barton outside a hot sept call up has been absolute shit with the bat. Ill take my chances with Doolittle.
"Carter's 25-game hitting streak isn't any normal streak. He's 46 for 97 (.474 average) during the run, adding 16 walks and compiling 81 total bases in the process. I'm out of superlatives for what he's doing." - Kevin Goldstein
+1
"Their batters are patient to the point that it's annoying." -Ryan Franklin
by Helloooo 1st on Aug 18, 2009 9:52 PM PDT up reply actions
I'm not sure Barton will stay in the organization, though, MikeA
With Doolittle, Wallace, and Carter in various stages of “close,” I could see the A’s moving Barton in the off-season to address another need.
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Also, maybe if the A's loved him at 1B they wouldn't have moved him to the OF this year....
With stout hearts, and with enthusiasm for the contest, let us go forward to victory. ----Hero Defector Montgomery
I definitely want Barton to start for the rest of the year
I’m firmly in the pro-Barton camp. But I think Doolittle is a good prospect, too.
"And Julio Franco is batting right-handed!" -- Wayne Hagin, A's radio play-by-play, mid-80s
Called Flexibility.
"Carter's 25-game hitting streak isn't any normal streak. He's 46 for 97 (.474 average) during the run, adding 16 walks and compiling 81 total bases in the process. I'm out of superlatives for what he's doing." - Kevin Goldstein
Doolittle
I think they wanted to try him in the outfield because they love his bat and feel that he has the best chance to succeed in RF out of himself, Carter, and Barton. Doolittle has a decent arm in the outfield and seems to move around pretty well out there from what I hear. Personally I wouldve liked to see more of him at 3rd but I guess that experiment failed. Good thing we have some 3b candidates now with Wallace, Cardenas, and even Grant Green. I loved what I heard about Michael Spina and he’s holding his own in the low minors so far
by JustinIcon19 on Aug 18, 2009 10:48 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
He should have a decent arm.. he was a pitcher.
His arm I believe is scouted as above average.
"Carter's 25-game hitting streak isn't any normal streak. He's 46 for 97 (.474 average) during the run, adding 16 walks and compiling 81 total bases in the process. I'm out of superlatives for what he's doing." - Kevin Goldstein
He threw 94mph and most thought he should have been drafted as a pitcher
that would qualify as a plus arm.
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by designatedforassignment on Aug 18, 2009 11:54 PM PDT up reply actions
Why not have him as "Super LOOGY!!!!!!"
He starts in RF, watches Casilla give up a leadoff triple in the 7th, takes the mound and gets a key lefty out, then returns to RF to catch a medium fly ball and gun the runner out at the plate.
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That has been done with alternating righty lefty pitchers in the past.
Eventually, my colleague and I trotted from the two-bit seats to the three-bit seats to get a closer view of the action. - Jlaff on Turn Back the Clock Day
by designatedforassignment on Aug 19, 2009 3:18 PM PDT up reply actions
Everything I read says Doolittle is GG worthy at 1st.
"Carter's 25-game hitting streak isn't any normal streak. He's 46 for 97 (.474 average) during the run, adding 16 walks and compiling 81 total bases in the process. I'm out of superlatives for what he's doing." - Kevin Goldstein
No no -- it means he mostly DHs.
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
2012:
Carter LF
Doolittle RF
Cust CF
the gravitational force alone would prevent home runs
Save Rajai Davis
You mean Wallace in RF, right?
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
Question
Is that Tyson Ross who pitched yesterday? If so, how the heck did he make it to AA so fast? Wasn’t he injured and/or performing less than stellarly? He was drafted just last year. I don’t understand how he got to where he is, he sure seems to have been put on the fast track by the A’s organization.
"All your baserunner are belong to Greg Smith" ~ walk off bunt
He pitched pretty darn well in the Cal League.
"Carter's 25-game hitting streak isn't any normal streak. He's 46 for 97 (.474 average) during the run, adding 16 walks and compiling 81 total bases in the process. I'm out of superlatives for what he's doing." - Kevin Goldstein
Here are his numbers from Stockton this season.
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by Rated-R Superstar on Aug 18, 2009 3:51 PM PDT up reply actions
Pretty good, but it still feels like he’s moving faster than he should. Then again, what do I know?
"All your baserunner are belong to Greg Smith" ~ walk off bunt
by Philip Christy on Aug 18, 2009 4:15 PM PDT up reply actions
I get the sense they want to get all the value they can out of him
before the inevitable injury occurs.
"Surely these gents are talking about the dashing rookie campaign of southpaw Jamie Moyer. Now, that cat is on the up and up." JLaff, in 1929.
Will Carter be a top 5 overall prospect going into next season?
I think the real question is: how can he not be?
"I'm not going to buy my kids an encyclopedia. Let them walk to school like I did." -Yogi Berra
I hope so, but I believe we'll see him all over the place on different rankings
Baseball Prospectus is obviously high on him, I think Sickels might give him a good grade, but we’ll see where Baseball America puts him. He virtually doesn’t exist to them. He didn’t even make their top 50 in this midseason’s top prospects.
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by stranahanahan on Aug 18, 2009 4:22 PM PDT up reply actions
I'll bet he gets an A- from Sickels
unless defense brings him down. He seems like a solid A- hitting prospect even by Sickels’ tough grading curve.
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How can he not be?
He doesn’t play a premium defensive position and isn’t young for his level.
So, there are negatives, but obviously, there are way more positives.
I put together a top 100 list last month, and Carter was 24th IIRC. With his recent surge, he’d be pushing into the 15-20 range IMO now.
I just added this to the front page
1. partly because there hasn’t been a new front page post today
2. mostly to acknowledge asyouwish33’s awesome work on this (along with the work of his brother, and lately RatedRSuperstar). Thanks, all!
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
And robbo650 once (very poorly)
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
Wow, thanks Nico
I appreciate the notice. Thanks to RatedRSuperstar for his help lately. Go A’s!
+1
Absolutely great work from these 3!
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I appreciate it, you guys.
I enjoy posting them.
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by Rated-R Superstar on Aug 18, 2009 4:29 PM PDT up reply actions
Thanks for continually doing this.
This beats going to every individual team site & trying to look up all the info.
Paddle Faster! I hear banjo music.
Everidge
OK, I know this is not a minor league comment, but I loved watching Everidge yesterday. When Everidge was holding Jeter on first, I thought he was going to ask for an autograph. Tommy looked so happy to be there. And when someone hit a foul shot up the first base line, Tommy THREW his body in front of it. No way it was getting past him. Baseball is a great game.
Wallace is on fire!
Brett Wallace just hit another home run today, which i believe makes three HRs in the last three games. Me likey the power!!
Beane, get ready
Move to San Jose or whatever it takes to generate some bucks, but in a few years, we are going to need to give multi-year contracts to Wallace, Carter, and maybe a couple more sluggers. Murderer’s Row is coming in a couple of years.
by redtopcowboy on Aug 18, 2009 5:16 PM PDT up reply actions
Yikes
Let’s see how they do with their first taste of the bigs before we get crazy. I like your enthusiasm but Daric Barton says hello
Yes...
In September. The plan is to have Wallace and/or Carter at first in 2010 or 2011 and when they go down with the infamous Oakland A’s quad/oblique/forearm/back strain, Dale will be there to slug 800 in September. Flawless!
by JustinIcon19 on Aug 18, 2009 11:00 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
Don't get carried away
These guys are still only prospects. They still have to prove themselves in the major leagues. However, I am glad that Wallace is showing some of the power that he showed when he was a Sun Devil, and Carter is just tearing up AA right now.
Cunningham on fire again.
3-3 with a walk, HR, 2Bs.
"Carter's 25-game hitting streak isn't any normal streak. He's 46 for 97 (.474 average) during the run, adding 16 walks and compiling 81 total bases in the process. I'm out of superlatives for what he's doing." - Kevin Goldstein
Cardenas 3-4 as well.
Hes hitting .353 over his past 10 games so that gonna go up. Close to 400 over past 10 games.
"Carter's 25-game hitting streak isn't any normal streak. He's 46 for 97 (.474 average) during the run, adding 16 walks and compiling 81 total bases in the process. I'm out of superlatives for what he's doing." - Kevin Goldstein
Cardenas always struggles at a new level, only to come back and destroy it.
Don't believe in yourself.
Believe in Me who believes in You.
"I'll be back."
Cardenas for Terminator Governor!
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