A's sign Max Stassi for $1.5M
by BillMoresi on Aug 17, 2009 1:18 PM PDT
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No word yet on Green. Do you think we'll be able to sign him? It will probably come down close to the deadline with Boras representing. In regards to Stassi, however, I like the signing. Heard Oakland was offering 1.25 million and Stassi wanted 1.5 million. Glad Oakland made up the difference - wouldn't want to lose that kind of talent for 250k.
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Great signing... I have a feeling the A's will sign Green also.
"Whether you think you can, or you think you can't, either way, YOU'RE RIGHT !"
Wouldn't it be Vancouver?
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
They'll probably just send him to Arizona for a couple games and then instructional league
I’d be out-and-out shocked if he was sent to a full-season league.
Linda's in the cold ground, won't see her anymore
Somewhere out on the highway tonight, the drunken engines roar
It's just one of those things, one of those things
-- Al Stewart, "Accident on 3rd St."
In memory of Nick Adenhart and all victims of drunk driving
I think the A's will get Green, too.
I like the subtle way the A’s drafts have changed a bit in recent seasons. Specifically in relation to position players. The team is really focusing money and picks on up-the-middle talents. With the scarcity of true up-the-middle athletic talent being exposed at the major league level recently, I think this is a smart idea by the A’s front office.
I'm never gonna do it without the fez on!
by Taj Adib on Aug 17, 2009 1:26 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
I agree
Finding guys like Tommy Everidge and Jeff Gray in the late rounds is pretty easy. No, they won’t carry your team, or even be average players, but they’ll fill out roster spots 16-25 for peanuts.
Linda's in the cold ground, won't see her anymore
Somewhere out on the highway tonight, the drunken engines roar
It's just one of those things, one of those things
-- Al Stewart, "Accident on 3rd St."
In memory of Nick Adenhart and all victims of drunk driving
Having 9 below average guys on the team would kinda suck, wouldn't it?
I mean, unless you’re meaning MLB average in the context of average vs replacment.
"I’m Joey Devine, I’m what Joba Chamberlain would be if he was good and nobody had ever heard of him."
I mean MLB average, yes
Obviously you never want below-replacement players on your team… actually, Everidge has been that bad so far, but it’s a small sample.
Linda's in the cold ground, won't see her anymore
Somewhere out on the highway tonight, the drunken engines roar
It's just one of those things, one of those things
-- Al Stewart, "Accident on 3rd St."
In memory of Nick Adenhart and all victims of drunk driving
Holy Crap
I don’t log on for a week and PaulThomas comes back. This has just made my day.
They say nothing is impossible, but I do nothing all the time!
by muffinpryde on Aug 18, 2009 10:50 PM PDT up reply actions
I felt the same way a coupla days ago
Solace: Law says he's a fourth OFer
PaulThomas: I think Keith Law is only a fourth analyst
Gammons' blog said Green is "a lock" to get done.
For whatever that’s worth.
"I’m Joey Devine, I’m what Joba Chamberlain would be if he was good and nobody had ever heard of him."
Is he going to be the MVP, too, Peter? :p
"And Julio Franco is batting right-handed!" -- Wayne Hagin, A's radio play-by-play, mid-80s
Anyone have the latest on Krol?
I have seen no updates or read of anyone close to proceedings even commenting on his deal.
"If, by 'journey', you mean, 'me coming to terms with my manlove', and the destination being 'Jack Cust' then yes. I agree." -bobnothing
Didn't someone report that he was
expected to go to college instead?
by OaklandSi on Aug 17, 2009 1:46 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
That's Dyson
Far as I know, no one’s heard anything about Krol. BA as of this morning still had him listed as “May get over-slot deal.”
Linda's in the cold ground, won't see her anymore
Somewhere out on the highway tonight, the drunken engines roar
It's just one of those things, one of those things
-- Al Stewart, "Accident on 3rd St."
In memory of Nick Adenhart and all victims of drunk driving
not only Dyson
at least according to the Baseball Rumor Mill, which in mid-June remarked about the A’s draft choices:
The(y) grabbed Ian Krol who was booted from his high school team for some off the field issues and is committed to Arizona and will take some money to wrestle free.
and for those who are curious, Kroll was suspended in March from playing in high school for a second violation of the school athletic code of conduct. Apparently he was present where alcohol was being consumed, although no one accused him of drinking.
OMFG A HIGH SCHOOL KID WAS A T A PARTY WHERE THERE WAS DRINKING GOING ON!?!?!?
"I’m Joey Devine, I’m what Joba Chamberlain would be if he was good and nobody had ever heard of him."
ITS SO UNCOMMON OMG WTF
BANNED FOR LYFE
"I feel like we are sending Danny Haren for Mulder all over again." - Cardinal fan on the Matt Holliday trade
"But at this time of year, two plus two doesn't always add up to eight. Sometimes, it equals four." - Geoff Baker, Mariners beat writer.
he was in a car with booze
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by designatedforassignment on Aug 17, 2009 2:44 PM PDT up reply actions
was there a dead hooker in the trunk?
Twitter went down today--if only there were some short, shallow, self-indulgent way to express my horror.-Stephen Colbert
by Leopold Bloom on Aug 17, 2009 6:38 PM PDT up reply actions
Did you put one there?
Eventually, my colleague and I trotted from the two-bit seats to the three-bit seats to get a closer view of the action. - Jlaff on Turn Back the Clock Day
by designatedforassignment on Aug 17, 2009 7:26 PM PDT up reply actions
*grins sheepishly
Yeah… Yeah that was me…
"I feel like we are sending Danny Haren for Mulder all over again." - Cardinal fan on the Matt Holliday trade
"But at this time of year, two plus two doesn't always add up to eight. Sometimes, it equals four." - Geoff Baker, Mariners beat writer.
THAT's the Saigon whore that bit my NOSE off!!
"I did nothing. I did absolutely nothing, and it was everything that I thought it could be." -- Peter Gibbons
by dtownmbrown on Aug 18, 2009 12:16 PM PDT up reply actions
oh my god.
a dirty work reference. i could not be happier.
That has to be a good sign. Didn't the Babe also consume a lot of alcohol ? As long as it isn't PEDs I am ok with it.
"Whether you think you can, or you think you can't, either way, YOU'RE RIGHT !"
As long as they spread syphilis, I'm good with it.
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
I've read a couple places that the A's are still in contact with Krol which is a good sign (up until 9pm anyway).
Sometimes life will strike you out on a curve ball and the only choice you have is to flip off the umpire and walk to first base anyway.
by Threepwood XX on Aug 17, 2009 2:21 PM PDT up reply actions
19th pick signs
For almost $3 million so that means Green will go for over $3 million but under $5 million. No Boras picks signed just yet.
It wouldn't be good for us this year, but I think it would be cool if none of the Teams signed the Boras Clients
collusion? absolutely. but strangely satisfying
"Gratuitous gesticulating together sounds even better"
Why?
I don’t like his politics, but what’s wrong with getting results for his clients?
Linda's in the cold ground, won't see her anymore
Somewhere out on the highway tonight, the drunken engines roar
It's just one of those things, one of those things
-- Al Stewart, "Accident on 3rd St."
In memory of Nick Adenhart and all victims of drunk driving
this.
It’s his job. He’s good at it, so clients go to him.
"I generally avoid temptation unless I can't resist it" ~ Mae West
+ infinity
players get Boras because they want to milk every penny out of their contracts they can. Boras is just very good a doing it so players choose him, but he has negotiated hometown discounts for players before. Honestly, if Im a HS kid that gets drafted I know that chances are I am never going to be a big leaguer and that my bonus money can set me up if Im smart about it. For many of these kids its the last paycheck they will ever get from a ML team.
Eventually, my colleague and I trotted from the two-bit seats to the three-bit seats to get a closer view of the action. - Jlaff on Turn Back the Clock Day
by designatedforassignment on Aug 17, 2009 2:47 PM PDT up reply actions
Problem is for those that don't sign and have to wait another year like Crow.
He loses a year of pro ball and pro ball money. Also, Crow and another may even miss this year if they don’t sign until later.
"Whether you think you can, or you think you can't, either way, YOU'RE RIGHT !"
No he doesn't. It's not like he was going straight to the big leagues.
he loses a year of minor league ball, but if he plays in an independent league somewhere that’s right on par with rookie league.
"I’m Joey Devine, I’m what Joba Chamberlain would be if he was good and nobody had ever heard of him."
Ultimately, it's the player's decision
As an agent, Boras is duty-bound to approve and finalize any deal which his principal asks him to. He might advise against it, even throw a hissy fit about it, but at the end of the day, the player decides. Nobody is forced to NOT sign any contract by Scott Boras.
Also worth keeping in mind that amateur ballplayers do not have a formal agent-client relationship. The agent is, officially, simply an advisor. He doesn’t get a commission from the signing bonus. The reason why agents “advise” like this is because it’s a great way to recruit clients for the future.
Linda's in the cold ground, won't see her anymore
Somewhere out on the highway tonight, the drunken engines roar
It's just one of those things, one of those things
-- Al Stewart, "Accident on 3rd St."
In memory of Nick Adenhart and all victims of drunk driving
by PaulThomas on Aug 17, 2009 3:32 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Speaking of signing/not signing draft picks....
I read that Strassburg rejected an offer of 12.5 million? Which is also a record……wow, just wow!
Also, welcome back Paul Thomas…..things should be a little more spicy around here again!
Zeigler to Geren…."A-Rod? He’s my bitch." -alox
I wonder if Strasburg is thinking about the fact
that if he goes back to school for another year he, like any other pitcher in the world, could be injured by the time of the next draft and never get offered nearly as much — or even a dime — again.
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
He is going to sign for 17m and incentives ... book it.
Next year he would have significantly less leverage even if he doesn’t get hurt in the mean time.
Eventually, my colleague and I trotted from the two-bit seats to the three-bit seats to get a closer view of the action. - Jlaff on Turn Back the Clock Day
by designatedforassignment on Aug 17, 2009 4:24 PM PDT up reply actions
good points, mates.
The kid would be crazy to turn down even the 12.5 million the Nationals initially offered! WTF?
Zeigler to Geren…."A-Rod? He’s my bitch." -alox
Maybe he just really, really doesn't want to play for the Nats!
"And Julio Franco is batting right-handed!" -- Wayne Hagin, A's radio play-by-play, mid-80s
Given that he's probably worth in the $30-50M range,
that offer is basically insulting.
Linda's in the cold ground, won't see her anymore
Somewhere out on the highway tonight, the drunken engines roar
It's just one of those things, one of those things
-- Al Stewart, "Accident on 3rd St."
In memory of Nick Adenhart and all victims of drunk driving
how are you defining worth?
Eventually, my colleague and I trotted from the two-bit seats to the three-bit seats to get a closer view of the action. - Jlaff on Turn Back the Clock Day
by designatedforassignment on Aug 17, 2009 5:16 PM PDT up reply actions
but then, if we're going by value, any offer to a top draft pick is insulting
"I generally avoid temptation unless I can't resist it" ~ Mae West
I thought the relationship was formal
after the client was drafted. Of course, its general, but I’d think it goes 50/50.
Crow and Scheppers lost their NCAA eligibility for hiring agents last year, if I’m right.
"I generally avoid temptation unless I can't resist it" ~ Mae West
I think Boras is, in general, kind of a slimey douchebag
But your point is spot on. He’s exploiting a stupid, ridiculous system.
Fix the system, and you’ve fixed Boras. Poor owners, having to shell out hundreds of thousands of their billions on poor 18-22 year olds.
Outman, fighter of the Hitman, champion of the K, he's a master of scoreless innings and friendship for everyone.
by walk off bunt on Aug 17, 2009 5:16 PM PDT up reply actions
Shelby Miller was known as an overslot guy though
It’s safe to say he probably would’ve been taken earlier had he not been seeking over slot.
"I generally avoid temptation unless I can't resist it" ~ Mae West
I watched a few of Stassi's high-school games ...
I say we plug him in at cleanup against the Yankees this week … kid rakes. (Just kidding of course, but he’d probably be one of our 3 best hitters just by default.)
I needed a team so I wouldn’t turn into one of the eighty million pink hat-wearing Bud Light-drinking mulleted idiots at Fenway.
BP's Kevin Goldstein Not Optimistic About Krol
“@KelvinWolf Dyson is NOT going to happen, Krol probably not, Green still has a solid chance #athletics.”
I'll take that trade.
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
Now Gammons says Green among players that might not sign...nice
Also looks like its green or bust, they likely wont use that money towards other picks
what are the offers being exchanged?
does anyone have info?
Zeigler to Geren…."A-Rod? He’s my bitch." -alox
Good news,
Andy Seiler has a good draft blog that has information on signings and other related stuff. He also warns to be wary of the source, because there is a lot of unknown.
Don’t pay attention to articles saying that a draftee and a team "are unlikely to agree" before the deadline. Outside writers simply don’t know at this point, and the updates they’re getting are most likely sketchy and not from the most knowledgeable source in the negotiations.
"Surely these gents are talking about the dashing rookie campaign of southpaw Jamie Moyer. Now, that cat is on the up and up." JLaff, in 1929.
+1
Last year, 28 out of the first 30 guys signed and I think the two years before that everyone signed. I’d be somewhat surprised if Green didn’t sign, especially since his stock didn’t exactly shoot through the roof his last year at USC.
The CBA has changed
so that teams are now compensated for their picks if they fail to sign which is a huge difference in terms of leverage.
Eventually, my colleague and I trotted from the two-bit seats to the three-bit seats to get a closer view of the action. - Jlaff on Turn Back the Clock Day
by designatedforassignment on Aug 17, 2009 6:18 PM PDT up reply actions
That changed in 2003
I mentioned the last three years.
2009-3 = 2006
2006>2003
Its still something that had never happened before 2008 and now it has
opening pandora’s box if you will since there was only one draft before last years’ that was under the new CBA since it was signed after the WS in 06.
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by designatedforassignment on Aug 17, 2009 9:45 PM PDT up reply actions
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I’ll be really surprised if Green doesn’t sign, but his struggles in his junior season are just as good a reason to go back as to sign.
by AgitationStation on Aug 17, 2009 6:45 PM PDT up reply actions
A's get Krol!
kingclip#A’s have singed RHP Ian Krol — I’m kinda surprised by that one.
Eventually, my colleague and I trotted from the two-bit seats to the three-bit seats to get a closer view of the action. - Jlaff on Turn Back the Clock Day
by designatedforassignment on Aug 17, 2009 8:15 PM PDT reply actions
If we get Green this is a great draft especially considering no #2 and no comp picks
Goldstein replied to my question about Green
Don’t assume connections, but it’s interesting RT Dessignatedforassignment: @kingclip Does Krol signing mean the #Athletics won’t get Grant Green?
Eventually, my colleague and I trotted from the two-bit seats to the three-bit seats to get a closer view of the action. - Jlaff on Turn Back the Clock Day
by designatedforassignment on Aug 17, 2009 8:27 PM PDT up reply actions
Its twitter formatting which is an abomination but basically after @kingclip is my question.
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by designatedforassignment on Aug 17, 2009 8:27 PM PDT up reply actions
Yea, it could go either way on that one
I mean, what I had read before suggested that the A’s had been negotiating with all three with the intent of signing them all. But you never know how negotiations will progress, I could see a situation where the A’s ran out of room in the budget to get all three and that the signing of Krol suggests they are using money they had budgeted for Green.
At this point I am pretty much done speculating as it could go either way with Green. Time to just cross my fingers and enjoy watching the game tonight.
I'm very interested to see Krol's bonus
As we haven’t gotten a good read on just how highly he’s regarded.
Would guess the bonus is in the 250-500K range
projected as a 2-3 rounder till suspension and thats in line with the bonuses.
18 minutes
We absolutely have to get GG, IMO
Solace: Law says he's a fourth OFer
PaulThomas: I think Keith Law is only a fourth analyst
Even if the A's do sign Green
It’s possible we won’t hear about it untill much later. I imagine there will be a number of signings coming across the commissioner’s desk right before the deadline. It could be hours before things are official.
last year
We didn’t hear about Brett Hunter until 30 minutes or so after the deadline, if I recall.
Correct
Most people are saying GG is a lock, I wait with baited breath.
"I feel like we are sending Danny Haren for Mulder all over again." - Cardinal fan on the Matt Holliday trade
"But at this time of year, two plus two doesn't always add up to eight. Sometimes, it equals four." - Geoff Baker, Mariners beat writer.
TEN MINUTES
GOTTA make this happen…
Solace: Law says he's a fourth OFer
PaulThomas: I think Keith Law is only a fourth analyst
Ian Krol = $925K
The A’s signed high school lefty and seventh-round pick Ian Krol, according to Kevin Goldstein of Baseball Prospectus (via Twitter). Krol missed the 2009 season due to an alcohol-related suspension, as reported by the Chicago Tribune’s Matt Lynch. He’ll get $925K, according to Jim Callis of Baseball America.
And BA's website went down!
I bet they’re thrilled. Awesome timing!
TWO MINUTES TO SPARE!
FOSS BREAKS THE NEWS!
Solace: Law says he's a fourth OFer
PaulThomas: I think Keith Law is only a fourth analyst
It was just announced on the A's Game that the A's signed Grant Green
"Whether you think you can, or you think you can't, either way, YOU'RE RIGHT !"
Tell us what he says please!
"I feel like we are sending Danny Haren for Mulder all over again." - Cardinal fan on the Matt Holliday trade
"But at this time of year, two plus two doesn't always add up to eight. Sometimes, it equals four." - Geoff Baker, Mariners beat writer.
No good details
Just that they are happy to have them. Good talents and it took a “good chunk of change” to get them.
I shouldn't have expected more than the yay yay rah rah
Silly me.
"I feel like we are sending Danny Haren for Mulder all over again." - Cardinal fan on the Matt Holliday trade
"But at this time of year, two plus two doesn't always add up to eight. Sometimes, it equals four." - Geoff Baker, Mariners beat writer.
More Good news RANGERS DONT SIGN PURKE !!!
Sheppers may not sign either although without a deadline and not signing Purke I would think it will get done eventually
Id rather have them sign purke and punt scheppers so this isn't good.
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by designatedforassignment on Aug 17, 2009 9:14 PM PDT up reply actions
I doubt one had much effect on the other
Nobody’s punting Scheppers.
I know but if Purke took them to the cleaners with Tom Hicks being as broke as I am these days
It could preclude signing Scheppers.
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by designatedforassignment on Aug 17, 2009 9:24 PM PDT up reply actions
They shouldn't bother with Scheppers either
I would much rather he spent his money on Liverpool than on Purke or Scheppers
I can get behind that Liverpool >>>>>> Texas
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by designatedforassignment on Aug 18, 2009 8:48 AM PDT up reply actions
oh my god yes.
Otherwise it’s about time for me to start getting all excited about this Greek Rangers reject. ugh.
At this point all I’m asking for is Tuncay or Kranjcar. Is that really so much to ask, Tom? Really?
/HappyDance
"Carter's 25-game hitting streak isn't any normal streak. He's 46 for 97 (.474 average) during the run, adding 16 walks and compiling 81 total bases in the process. I'm out of superlatives for what he's doing." - Kevin Goldstein
that is a great deal
I thought they might get a bargain when Wheeler went for $3.3.
sounds like a Soprano's character
“then Max Stassi tried to double deal Tony”
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