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Notes From My Lying Eyes

I was the recipient of sf drift king's generosity which allowed me to attend my third A's game of the year, so part of this post is to thank him.  Like every other game that I've been to in person this year, the A's lost but at least managed to do so in some interesting ways.  Now my opinion of lay scouting should be well known around these parts; I hate it.  So take everything that I have to say with a big ol bag of that fancy sea salt that you can find at gourmet cooking stores, you know the kind that costs like 30 bucks a bag.  That doesn't mean that going to the game and watching things on your own doesn't allow you to pick up on some things that the radio or gameday miss. I thought I would share some tidbits from my time tonight in section 126.

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  • Adam Kennedy did not play well defensively.  His poor throw on a double play ball cost Anderson 2 runs in the first inning.  He let another routine grounder bounce off of his chest before recovering and making the throw in time. A third grounder Kennedy almost made a nifty play on in the 5-6 hole but didn't have the range for it playing "no doubles" defense and guarding the line.  He might have made the play if he went diagonally back on the ball instead of laterally.  It was a tough play, but one I think a good 3baseman makes.  Bringing Kennedy back had been a subject of some debate around here.  If my observations are correct over a larger sample than 1 game put me in the against column.  Especially with likely carrying two first basemen, it is hard to justify having a utility infielder who cannot play SS, but it is impossible to justify having one that won't hit and can't field at 3b.  Granted UZR in an too small to make any firm judgement suggest tonight was a fluke, so hearing other's impressions of Kennedy's defense at third would be interesting.
  • Ryan Sweeney doesn't hustle, and therefore I hate him.  If you are getting paid hundreds of thousands of dollars to play professional baseball and you can't hustle you can go to hell.  Having already been benched once this year for not running plays out, Sweeney failed to run hard several times. Sweeney didn't run hard on his second inning single when doing so would have allowed him to take second on Quentin's bobble and prevent him from being erased in a double play grounder by Everidge. Sweeney didn't run hard on a fly ball that Quentin dropped which forced him to kick it into second gear to get to second rather than giving him the potential to get to third. Sweeney didn't run hard retrieving Beckham's double.  The rest of the night he ran noticeably harder and he really smoked that double.
  • Geren made very poor tactical decisions tonight.  Why when you have Contreras on the ropes having scored five runs in the inning are you having Pennington try to steal second with only one out remaining in the inning?  Its a terrible idea and one of those times where running into outs tremendously helps a pitcher who is struggling.  Assuming that Jack Cust is not hurt, what combination of drugs is necessary to believe that pinch hitting for Cust with Nomar Garciaparra is a good idea? Who thinks that having a 4.6% better chance to have a base runner in the last two innings of a tied game is important?  Not Geren!  This move was especially puzzeling when a home run likely wins it for you and Nomar only has two all year.
  • Hairston's approach was better than his walk rate with Oakland would suggest.  I wasn't in a good balls and strikes position but he seemed choosey enough and but the ball on the bat well in all but his last PA.  The surprising approach would suggest to me that he may be better than a .300 OBP which is a very very good thing.
  • Rajai Davis looked pretty lost at the plate tonight and was totally blown away by Jenks in his last at bat.  Rajai was still loading his swing when Jenks' fastball was starting to bear down on him.  I thought he would regress before tonight, this bit of data makes me more sure.
  • I wish the A's would steal the nacho cart from the OF seats in Anahiem.  8 dollar excellent nachos with really good meat, salsa, beans, jalapeños, sour cream and guac in addition to processed cheese beat crappy small A's nachos any day.
  • Brett Anderson didn't seem to have the zip on his pitches that he did the previous times I've seen him pitch.  This suggests to me that he needs to be sent down to save service time and shut down.  If we send him down now he would be right now and brought him up for September call ups he would be around the point of keeping him an extra year with control.  I believe that way if we name him the 5th starter next year we can keep him in the minors 4 days or what not to save that extra year.
There you have it what I saw at the game tonight. Thanks sf drift king for the tickets it was super awesome to get to go.

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SMALL SAMPLE SIZE!!!!!!!!1!1111

"We were shit, pathetic," Guillen growled early in spring training. "We hit too many home runs."

by lenscrafters on Aug 15, 2009 12:50 AM PDT reply actions  

No duh!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Dating girls is like starting pitching depth, you think you have a good full rotation, even too many starters, then in an instant as soon as you trade your depth away injuries decimate your rotation and you are forced to start Sidney Ponson.

by designatedforassignment on Aug 15, 2009 12:53 AM PDT up reply actions  

I mean I did title it Notes From My Lying Eyes

so of course I’m not putting a lot or really any weight in it. It was the first time I saw Kennedy at 3b and like I said UZR contradicts what I saw, and I would go with UZR over my eyes especially since Im not a scout. Sweeney not running hard is just a personal thing and has nothing to do with performance per se. Hairston’s discipline has always been better than it has been since he got traded here, so seeing how a regression to the mean could happen isn’t really that ridiculous. Geren making bonehead moves is pretty much standard fodder around here. Nachos are nachos. I never believed Davis’ bat was this good and that regression was inevitable. Anderson has to reached the most innings hes ever pitched in a season.

Basically Im not making any observations that aren’t borne out by their statistical counterparts.

Dating girls is like starting pitching depth, you think you have a good full rotation, even too many starters, then in an instant as soon as you trade your depth away injuries decimate your rotation and you are forced to start Sidney Ponson.

by designatedforassignment on Aug 15, 2009 1:04 AM PDT up reply actions  

Haha I know dude, just making a joke.

"We were shit, pathetic," Guillen growled early in spring training. "We hit too many home runs."

by lenscrafters on Aug 15, 2009 1:05 AM PDT up reply actions  

Sorry... sarchasm meter ran out of batteries.

Dating girls is like starting pitching depth, you think you have a good full rotation, even too many starters, then in an instant as soon as you trade your depth away injuries decimate your rotation and you are forced to start Sidney Ponson.

by designatedforassignment on Aug 15, 2009 1:16 AM PDT up reply actions  

Did you mean sarcasm?

While there is indeed a sarchasm between the two of you, I don’t think there are any sarchasm meters, just sarcasm meters. Actually, I didn’t even know sarchasm existed as a slang term before today. Here’s the definition from unword.com:
sarchasm (sär’kăz’əm)

"No matter what I talk about, I always get back to baseball." - Connie Mack

by GoA's on Aug 15, 2009 7:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

I just want to register my curmudgeonly disdain

for any word that gets more play from people repeating humorous definitions of it than from actual use in actual conversation.

"Go ahead and overachieve, you scrappy Brett-Favre-colored walk-takers." —Rev Halofan

by iglew on Aug 15, 2009 10:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

It was one of an ex gf of mines favorite unwords.

but I generally misspell things so a little here a little there.

Dating girls is like starting pitching depth, you think you have a good full rotation, even too many starters, then in an instant as soon as you trade your depth away injuries decimate your rotation and you are forced to start Sidney Ponson.

by designatedforassignment on Aug 15, 2009 10:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

About the nachos....

The nachos this year have been scary….earlier this year the cheese was an atomic orange color that I wouldn’t dare consume! I don’t expect them to be great – but I also don’t expect them to look dangerous either. The food this year is worse than usual IMHO (except for the Saag’s).

"I never blame myself when I'm not hitting. I just blame the bat, and if it keeps up, I change bats. After all, if I know it isn't my fault that I'm not hitting, how can I get mad at myself?" Yogi Berra

by BERRYJO on Aug 15, 2009 5:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

Maybe the A's took the same approach with the food

as they took with the players: “Let’s get something that’s too old and hope it has one good year left.”

I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal

by Nico on Aug 15, 2009 7:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

Too bad we can’t save the young arms by letting Brett Tomko and Chad Reinke trot out there. Wait, can we?

The Ultimate Opportunist

by Rated-R Superstar on Aug 15, 2009 1:11 AM PDT via mobile reply actions  

YES WE CAN!!!!!!!!

Yes we should. Well we should have never run them out there in the first place, but we should shut Cahill and Anderson down now and Mazzaro in a bit. I want to see Eveland Reinke and Egone making starts from now till the end of the year.

Dating girls is like starting pitching depth, you think you have a good full rotation, even too many starters, then in an instant as soon as you trade your depth away injuries decimate your rotation and you are forced to start Sidney Ponson.

by designatedforassignment on Aug 15, 2009 1:18 AM PDT up reply actions  

+1000000000000

I dont want to see them shut down completely, but a or 7 man rotation would be great. Or you could rotate 2 long guys and give the young kids a whole rotation or two off before the season is over.

S&BP > Mile High Mules

by 0akFoSho on Aug 15, 2009 1:34 AM PDT up reply actions  

Great report and I agree with exactly 100% of it

Either your eyes don’t lie that much or mine lie in harmony.

I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal

by Nico on Aug 15, 2009 7:23 AM PDT reply actions  

Corroboration?

As others have noted, the issue is not really that DFA’s eyes lie but rather that he’s extrapolating from a tiny sample. Your lying eyes, Nico, have sampled a bit more, and any time you and DFA agree that’s always interesting, so I wonder.

For example, with Sweeney’s lack of hustle, my first thought is: Does he always do this or did he just have a bad day? (Bad half a day, actually.) Maybe he does hustle most of the time, but was feeling a little queasy for the first half of the game, for all I know. I know you’re not a big Sweeney fan, Nico, but setting that aside, do you think it’s true that Sweeney consistently fails to hustle, or just has occasional lapses that might make you draw conclusions from one bad game.

Similar question for Kennedy’s defense, Hairston’s approach, etc.

"Go ahead and overachieve, you scrappy Brett-Favre-colored walk-takers." —Rev Halofan

by iglew on Aug 15, 2009 12:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

My take on Sweeney is that sometimes he

looks like he’s not hustling because he takes loping strides, but that he is also prone to “giving up” when he hits a “routine fly ball or grounder,” and that’s not really acceptable. I don’t hate Sweeney, by the way; I just think he’s a “tweener” who should be platooning at most, not an every day starter.

The more Kennedy plays at 3B the more comfortable he’ll get but also the more his weaknesses will be exposed. He’s smart and basically sound, but he’s no great 3Bman and at his age will only get worse. He should NOT be a starting 3Bman for anyone.

I think Hairston’s approach is ok; he’s just better against LHP and is starting every day, so you’re seeing more of his weaknesses — which are the same as most hitters’. Like Kennedy and Sweeney, he’s also being stretched beyond his ability and would look great if he were batting 6th or 7th and sat against some of the tougher RHPs.

It’s still worth noting, though, that as is Hairston has hit 15 HRs this season in 86 games, a near 30 HR pace for a full season. He’s a good addition but he needs to be the team’s 4th best hitter, not their “middle of the order slugger.”

I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal

by Nico on Aug 15, 2009 3:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

Personally, I'd prefer if my players "gave up" on routine fly balls and popups

[Not grounders, mind you. That’s a totally different kettle of fish.]

I think the likelihood of getting injured from extra running outweighs the tiny chance that you might pick up an extra base if the defender clanks it. You’re always going to at least get to first base, which is the most important one anyway.

Linda's in the cold ground, won't see her anymore
Somewhere out on the highway tonight, the drunken engines roar
It's just one of those things, one of those things
-- Al Stewart, "Accident on 3rd St."
In memory of Nick Adenhart and all victims of drunk driving

by PaulThomas on Aug 15, 2009 4:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

I think if you had the chance to see the A's OF defense all year,

you’d reconsider.

I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal

by Nico on Aug 15, 2009 5:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

Well, part of the definition of "routine fly ball" is "not hit to a field being manned by Jack Cust"

Linda's in the cold ground, won't see her anymore
Somewhere out on the highway tonight, the drunken engines roar
It's just one of those things, one of those things
-- Al Stewart, "Accident on 3rd St."
In memory of Nick Adenhart and all victims of drunk driving

by PaulThomas on Aug 15, 2009 11:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

agree re: Pennington's attempted steal

I only heard and saw the game intermittedly last night. I heard the part of the big come back inning when the A’s scored 5. Pennington got a hit up the middle then got erased attempting to steal?? WTF?? yea, makes no sense in the middle of a rally like that.

Still, theses young A’s make things so much more exciting that they were when he-who-shall-not-be-named was here.

by my_cat_max on Aug 15, 2009 8:01 AM PDT reply actions  

I don't believe, anything can save this year, as far as Anderson's service time

is concerned. He has already spent too much time on the active roster. He may need to go on more days rest, but sending him down, is pointless.

by theblackpearl on Aug 15, 2009 10:53 AM PDT reply actions  

DFA did you get my e-mails about the tickets?

I e-mailed my work & cell # to you, but did not hear from you. What happened ?

"We get two outs, and I was sure, and I had a plan, and I shook Tek off," Schilling said. "And I get a big 'What if?' for the rest of my life."

by Imaseasonticketholder on Aug 15, 2009 6:22 PM PDT reply actions  

Unfortunately I didn't get your email.

I looked in the spam filters and everything. I replied to you on your thread when I hadn’t heard back from you via email and your email wasn’t in your profile so I couldn’t get a hold of you that way. I really appreciated your offer but when I didn’t hear back from you I sent sf drift king an email because he mentioned that he also had tickets that he wasn’t going to use.

Dating girls is like starting pitching depth, you think you have a good full rotation, even too many starters, then in an instant as soon as you trade your depth away injuries decimate your rotation and you are forced to start Sidney Ponson.

by designatedforassignment on Aug 15, 2009 10:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

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