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Hairston is an A

According to MLBTradeRumors and the Padres twitter feed, the A's have acquired Scott Hairston from the Padres for 2 minor league pitchers and a PTBNL.

http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2009/07/as-acquire-scott-hairston.html

Speculation as to who the minor league arms are? EDIT: It has been confirmed that the pitchers are Ryan Webb and Craig Italiano.

Precursor to a Holliday trade perhaps? The outfield is full as it is, which means Buck/Cunningham/Etc aren't going to be playing like we hoped because of a Holliday trade....

 

Let the games begin eh? Sigh..

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A's get OF Hairston from Pads for minor leaguers

The Oakland A’s have acquired outfielder Scott Hairston from the San Diego Padres for minor-league pitchers Ryan Webb, Craig Italiano and a player to be named later.

Hairston, who just returned a stint on the disabled list, hit .299 with 10 home runs and 29 RBIs in 56 games with the Padres. He also had a career-high eight stolen bases.

Hairston, 29, debuted with the Arizona Diamondbacks in 2004 and was traded to the Padres in July of 2007.

http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/story/9773158/A%27s-get-OF-Hairston-from-Pads-for-minor-leaguers

Webb was 7-1 with two saves and 4.34 in 31 games at Triple-A Sacramento. Italiano was 5-6 with a 5.63 in 16 starts at Single-A Stockton.

by Technotofu on Jul 5, 2009 6:49 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

I like the trade.

The Ultimate Opportunist

by Rated-R Superstar on Jul 5, 2009 6:51 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

What"s Hairstons contract situation?

When does he reach free agency??

by JPShark on Jul 5, 2009 6:52 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

the a's control his contract

through 2011, so thats 2 and half more years . Not bad. He’s got some pop.

by Jessse on Jul 5, 2009 9:08 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

We finally have someone who's Mexican enough!

"And Julio Franco is batting right-handed!" -- Wayne Hagin, A's radio play-by-play, mid-80s

by Nick on Jul 5, 2009 6:55 PM PDT reply actions   1 recs

what the f is the corresponding move

Send Buck down for the 69th time?

by sourstuff on Jul 5, 2009 6:55 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Cant complain with the trade

But it does make you wonder where the Buck/Cunningham types fit in now.

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by walk off bunt on Jul 5, 2009 6:56 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

people keep saying Holliday is going, but it should be clear to anyone that follows the team closely that the malcontent Buck will be the one wearing a different uniform by the end of the year. Holliday-Hairston-Sweeney is the OF now til Oct 1.

by PL78 on Jul 5, 2009 10:51 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Uhh

no.

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by travdog6 on Jul 5, 2009 11:11 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

question

why?

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by The Most Interesting mAN on Jul 5, 2009 6:58 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Maybe Beane is accumulating Americans who starred in the WBC for other countries

He can pair up with Denorfia in the “It’s a Small World After All” Outfield.

"And Julio Franco is batting right-handed!" -- Wayne Hagin, A's radio play-by-play, mid-80s

by Nick on Jul 5, 2009 7:02 PM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

92 games over his career, 79 starts, seems decent, maybe a little below average. Doesn't seem to have much of an arm.

"And Julio Franco is batting right-handed!" -- Wayne Hagin, A's radio play-by-play, mid-80s

by Nick on Jul 5, 2009 7:00 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

He might have Sweeney D with a much better bat

His defense in center field really determines the outcome of this trade for me. If it is greater than -5 RAA then I think this is a good deal. If it isn’t, well, it isn’t.

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by designatedforassignment on Jul 5, 2009 8:02 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

+1

Whether he can play CF is the key.

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by iglew on Jul 5, 2009 9:24 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

And if he can, why wouldn't Sweeney be the trade bait (odd man out)

rather than Rajai Davis (a good “5th OFer/pinch runner”) or Buck/Cunningham?

I’d be happy if Hairston became the new Sweeney (an average defensive CFer who could be a good corner OFer if he played there), except one who mashes LHP instead of flailing against them, and if Sweeney were used in a package to address other needs.

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by Nico on Jul 5, 2009 9:30 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'm certainly not opposed to that

but equally, if a trading team wanted Buck or Cunningham, I’d say they could be equally as disposable

by bobnothing on Jul 5, 2009 9:34 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'd want more for Buck and Cunningham than I would for Sweeney.

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by OldhamA on Jul 6, 2009 2:48 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

No doubt this blocks Buck further

For that reason alone I don’t really like it.

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by Flashfire on Jul 5, 2009 7:01 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Once Holliday is traded, it won’t.

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by Rated-R Superstar on Jul 5, 2009 7:02 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

This might be a "what the hell, why not?" kind of deal

If the Padres called Beane and said, “We’d really like Italiano, here are 3 guys we could part with,” Beane might have figured it was worth it.

FWIW, his OPS is way higher than Holliday’s this year.

"And Julio Franco is batting right-handed!" -- Wayne Hagin, A's radio play-by-play, mid-80s

by Nick on Jul 5, 2009 7:05 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

and his OPS+ this year is higher than Holliday's career high

SSS FTW!

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by The Most Interesting mAN on Jul 5, 2009 7:07 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Between last year and this year, though

the guy does seem to have figured out how to drive the ball. It’s a little strange that the Padres would give up a guy who’s by leaps and bounds a better hitter than anyone else they have except for Adrian Gonzalez for two somewhat negligible minor league pitchers.

I mean, wouldn’t the Mets have offered more than this for Hairston?

"And Julio Franco is batting right-handed!" -- Wayne Hagin, A's radio play-by-play, mid-80s

by Nick on Jul 5, 2009 7:11 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

do we know hairston's FA situation?

how much team control is there?

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by The Most Interesting mAN on Jul 5, 2009 7:12 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

From Cot's Baseball Contracts
Scott Hairston of
1 year/$1.25M (2009)

    * 1 year/$1.25M (2009)
          o re-signed by San Diego 1/8/09 (avoided arbitration)
    * 1 year/$0.406M (2008)
          o re-signed by San Diego 3/3/08
    * 1 year/$0.389M (2007)
          o acquired in trade from Arizona 7/27/07
    * 1 year (2006), re-signed 3/06
    * 1 year (2005)
    * drafted 2001 (3-98)
    * $0.4M signing bonus
    * ML service: 3.102

Link here.

"And Julio Franco is batting right-handed!" -- Wayne Hagin, A's radio play-by-play, mid-80s

by Nick on Jul 5, 2009 7:17 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Nice... I like cost controlled

This I believe also says a big no to ryan ludwick.

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by designatedforassignment on Jul 5, 2009 8:04 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

His arbi value will go up, though, if he keeps hitting all those HRs

especially if he spends the rest of the year in CF.

"And Julio Franco is batting right-handed!" -- Wayne Hagin, A's radio play-by-play, mid-80s

by Nick on Jul 5, 2009 8:04 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

It's ok, he'll just get infected with the A's lack of Home Run hitting ability

in fact, maybe this is Beane’s new market inequality -

sign good players, get them to suck, so they are cheaper to sign in arbitration.

makes sense to me!

by bobnothing on Jul 5, 2009 8:08 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Depends who the PTBNL is.

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by OldhamA on Jul 6, 2009 2:48 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

hopefully this blocks Sweeney more than it blocks Buck

but yeah, not likely.

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by The Most Interesting mAN on Jul 5, 2009 7:05 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Agree

Clearly Buck is in Gerens dog-house. I saw the interview with Geren – I think it was pre-game the day after Buck was recalled and it was far less than a ringing indorsement. Something to the effect that Buck will determine his playing times based on how he performs and it is time for him to step up etc. Translated it sounds like – if he doesn’t hit right away he is on pine patrol again.

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by bajablue on Jul 6, 2009 9:13 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Inital reactions:

1) I guess the A’s really really hate giving Buck playing time.
2) Or maybe Holliday is gone really soon.
3) Hairston’s a pretty good defensive outfielder. Around average in center.
4) Fluke year with the bat (.358 BABIP), but he looks like Pujols on the A’s. Expect regression.
5) Cost controlled for 2 more years which is pretty good. Italiano is a huge gamble to even make the majors at this point and Webb is meh. Good trade in a vacumn.

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by lenscrafters on Jul 5, 2009 7:07 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Hairston played 3rd in the minors

I can dream, can’t I?

He’s always been one of my favorite players, and he’s been mashing this year, but it still takes time away from Buck unless they plan on playing him in the infield. He’s a converted 2nd baseman, and, like I said, played 3rd in the minors.

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by hero66 on Jul 5, 2009 7:10 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

It looks the sum total of his 3B experience consisted of 14 games at 3B 7 years ago in the California League and Midwest League

But at this point, that’s good enough for me! Ladies and gentlemen, your new starting 3B!!

"And Julio Franco is batting right-handed!" -- Wayne Hagin, A's radio play-by-play, mid-80s

by Nick on Jul 5, 2009 7:14 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Hairston

is on my strat team. It’s a keeper league so next year he will be on my strat team and the real team. Every out will hurt twice as bad.

He obviously is not going to keep hitting like he has but I think his numbers will look a little better outside of Petco, even if he’s moving to another pitchers’ park. He had a 115 OPS+ last year (though unfortunately it was more S than O), although his slash numbers don’t look that good.

I realize he is not the youngest guy and the Padres system is laughable but I thought we’d have to give up more than Italiano.

by swatnick on Jul 5, 2009 7:16 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

If he can have a 115 OPS+ in CF this is a great deal.

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by designatedforassignment on Jul 5, 2009 8:04 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Ok then we have Holliday to the Cards and Hairston to the Braves

The A’s get Wallace and Escobar in return.

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by Eastbayjim on Jul 5, 2009 7:18 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Done

and done.


If only :(

by Orodawg on Jul 5, 2009 7:18 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I wonder if it might be Holliday AND Hairston to one of those teams

or to the Mets.

I sure don’t want Francoeur or Garrett Anderson on the A’s, but I’d bet that Cox would prefer to write “Holliday” and “Hairston” in his lineup every day in place of his current LF and RF. Could be the same thing with the Cards or even the Mets.

"And Julio Franco is batting right-handed!" -- Wayne Hagin, A's radio play-by-play, mid-80s

by Nick on Jul 5, 2009 7:25 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I bet Beane is just droooling about the possibilities of getting both Escobar and Vasquez from the Braves

this just opens up a whole parade of possibilities

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by Eastbayjim on Jul 5, 2009 7:28 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

This is a peculiarly awesome move by Beane

Depending on the PTBNL, if he can pull a Hairston+Holliday combo for something like Esc/Vas I will take back everything negative about Beane I’ve said.
Ever.

by Orodawg on Jul 5, 2009 7:30 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Are you talking about Javier Vasquez?

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by brenarlo on Jul 5, 2009 7:31 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah

Javy. He’s having an insane year, which is why I’d be happy with Yunel + change

by Orodawg on Jul 5, 2009 7:34 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

If the Braves get Holliday...

it obviously means they’re going for it. Why would you trade your best pitcher when you’re going for it?

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by brenarlo on Jul 5, 2009 7:35 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Ask eastbay

I was just drooling at the thought

by Orodawg on Jul 5, 2009 7:36 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I have seen this on both on MLBDailydish and MLBTraderumors

http://www.mlbdailydish.com/

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by Eastbayjim on Jul 5, 2009 8:03 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Another thought - Who is the PTBNL?

Duke when he comes off the DL?

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by Eastbayjim on Jul 5, 2009 7:22 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Interesting idea

I have no idea, Duke makes sense though…

by Orodawg on Jul 5, 2009 7:24 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

that would be one hell of a PTBNL

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by The Most Interesting mAN on Jul 5, 2009 7:27 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

What's Duke's contract situation?

I thought I remembered it was extended this last off-season, but I can’t remember for sure.

If he’s not under contract next year then it would not be Duke.

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by brenarlo on Jul 5, 2009 7:27 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Free Agent next year

Let’s start digging, who should it be?

by Orodawg on Jul 5, 2009 7:28 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

My guess is it's someone on the 40 man roster...

because I think we can assume that Holliday will be gone too and that it would bring back a couple of players that would need to go on the 40 man roster.

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by brenarlo on Jul 5, 2009 7:30 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

mmm

Blevins, Barton, Casilla, Deno, Patterson/Petit/Pennington???

Just some names…

by Orodawg on Jul 5, 2009 7:33 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Patterson maybe?

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by brenarlo on Jul 5, 2009 7:34 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Could be I guess...

We’ll find out soon enough.

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by brenarlo on Jul 5, 2009 7:37 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

But why would he be a PTBNL?

The only situations with PTBNLs usually are:

1) The team gets to pick 1 of X number of guys by such-and-such a date
2) The guy the team wants is on the DL so they PTBNL him
3) They guy the team wants was drafted too recently, so they have to wait to acquire him officially

None of that applies to Patterson. If they want him, he’s theirs today.

"And Julio Franco is batting right-handed!" -- Wayne Hagin, A's radio play-by-play, mid-80s

by Nick on Jul 5, 2009 7:39 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Couldn't it be #1?

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by brenarlo on Jul 5, 2009 7:47 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah, but not in the "I think it's him" way (which was Orodawg's comment I was replying to)

That is, he could be one of the guys on a list, but he couldn’t be THE guy the Padres want — otherwise, he’d just be part of the deal already.

"And Julio Franco is batting right-handed!" -- Wayne Hagin, A's radio play-by-play, mid-80s

by Nick on Jul 5, 2009 7:49 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

it won't be Patterson

the ptbnl will be a pitcher. I just hope that it’s not Sean Gallagher. He’s on the Rivercat’s DL right now. Maybe they are waiting for him to get healthy b4 they can trade him.

by sf drift king on Jul 6, 2009 1:01 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

That'd make it a bad trade.

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by OldhamA on Jul 6, 2009 2:51 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Why would the Padres want Duke?

I mean, I love him, but he’s not exactly the #1 guy a rebuilding team would want.

"And Julio Franco is batting right-handed!" -- Wayne Hagin, A's radio play-by-play, mid-80s

by Nick on Jul 5, 2009 7:28 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

How hes a FA and SD isn't contending?

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by designatedforassignment on Jul 5, 2009 8:06 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

PTBNL

rumor has it the player is Gallagher

by granja on Jul 6, 2009 9:33 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Could be a plus

Centerfielders ranked by OPS+ from 2008-2009 (minimum 500 PA):

Cnt Player OPS+ PA From To
--————————---——---——+
1 Carlos Beltran 136 986 2008 2009
2 Josh Hamilton 129 842 2008 2009
3 Scott Hairston 128 572 2008 2009
4 Nate McLouth 123 986 2008 2009
5 Torii Hunter 121 918 2008 2009
6 Grady Sizemore 119 1024 2008 2009
7 Marlon Byrd 118 741 2008 2009
8 Curtis Granderson 118 989 2008 2009
9 Cody Ross 114 813 2008 2009
10 Mike Cameron 113 822 2008 2009
11 Matt Kemp 113 987 2008 2009
12 Shane Victorino 109 982 2008 2009
13 Jody Gerut 106 515 2008 2009
14 Rick Ankiel 105 685 2008 2009
15 Vernon Wells 105 827 2008 2009

by Orodawg on Jul 5, 2009 7:28 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

yeah we just the 3rd best CF for penuts, no big deal.

by PL78 on Jul 5, 2009 11:54 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

That's when he is healthy

He has been on the DL more than once in the last couple years.

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by adragon on Jul 6, 2009 9:10 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I won't miss you, Craig Italiano.

You frustrating, potential filled nobody.

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by travdog6 on Jul 5, 2009 7:31 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

That's what I said

Amazing arm, just couldn’t put it together.

by Orodawg on Jul 5, 2009 7:34 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Hairston is an A!

Craig is on his way
With Ryan to San Dee-ay
With a guy name layyyyter

And oh, I don’t know why
Oh I don’t know why
We’re all gonna die, oh yeah, we’re all gonna die, oh yeah!
We’re all gonna die, oh yeah, we’re all gonna die, oh yeah!

As Beane would remind us, A’s fans love the Ramones.

"And Julio Franco is batting right-handed!" -- Wayne Hagin, A's radio play-by-play, mid-80s

by Nick on Jul 5, 2009 7:36 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

I like that Hairston isn't terrible

So if he doesn’t get traded on (which was my initial reaction), he’ll add a bit of an edge to an otherwise dull knife once Holliday departs.

Plus, he’s used to playing in a Big yard, so hopefully he’ll be able to make the transition defensively pretty smoothly, yeah

by bobnothing on Jul 5, 2009 7:37 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

I like this trade.

Last year, Hairston was an above average defensive centerfielder, and he’s been a good hitter ever year he’s had the chance. I’m looking forward to seeing more of him.

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by King Richard on Jul 5, 2009 7:39 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Does this mean Davis is on his way out?

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by brenarlo on Jul 5, 2009 7:40 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

bon voyage raj?

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by ak_A on Jul 5, 2009 7:41 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Does Sweeney have any options?

Maybe they’ll send him down and have Sweeney and Cunningham in AAA for the rest of the year. I don’t know. It’s fun to speculate though.

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by brenarlo on Jul 5, 2009 7:42 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Sweeney has been one of the top hitters on the team for the past few years.

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by Rated-R Superstar on Jul 5, 2009 7:55 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I hope you're joking.

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by brenarlo on Jul 5, 2009 7:55 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Uh, .286 last year and .274 this year? Who has been better than that in the past few years?

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by Rated-R Superstar on Jul 5, 2009 7:56 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

That's his SLG, right?

"And Julio Franco is batting right-handed!" -- Wayne Hagin, A's radio play-by-play, mid-80s

by Nick on Jul 5, 2009 7:57 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Exactly...

Sweeney is a backup major leaguer or a AAAA player.

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by brenarlo on Jul 5, 2009 7:58 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I didn’t say he was one of the best hitters in the league.

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by Rated-R Superstar on Jul 5, 2009 7:59 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Looking at Batting Average alone is pointless.

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by travdog6 on Jul 5, 2009 7:58 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

+ eleventy billion

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by designatedforassignment on Jul 5, 2009 8:07 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

This is why I take the position I do on OPS

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by nevermoor on Jul 5, 2009 8:21 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

What position is that?

Missionary or Reverse Cowgirl?

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by designatedforassignment on Jul 5, 2009 10:07 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Oh dang

I just spit coffee all over my desk.

by jeffro on Jul 6, 2009 8:22 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

glad I can be helpful.

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by designatedforassignment on Jul 6, 2009 4:52 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

In the sense that he has no power at all and doesn’t get on base consistently?

"And Julio Franco is batting right-handed!" -- Wayne Hagin, A's radio play-by-play, mid-80s

by Nick on Jul 5, 2009 7:56 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

No, it’s in the sense that he hit .286 last year, .274 this year and over the past few years, only a few hitters have done that on this team. That makes him one of the better hitters.

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by Rated-R Superstar on Jul 5, 2009 7:58 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Again, Looking at Batting Average alone is pointless.

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by travdog6 on Jul 5, 2009 7:59 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

How many hitters are better than Sweeney on the team, then?

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by Rated-R Superstar on Jul 5, 2009 8:00 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Cust, Suzuki, Kennedy, Holliday.

Not that it really matters, because we are in a rebuilding year. But Sweeney won’t play a big role in our future.

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by travdog6 on Jul 5, 2009 8:02 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

That’s four hitters, and Sweeney’s on-base percentage is higher than Cust’s.

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by Rated-R Superstar on Jul 5, 2009 8:05 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'm gonna give Cust the benefit of the doubt and say next year he will revert to 2008 Cust.

But the point is, Sweeney is playing at his highest level. He has no projectability; what you’re getting from him now is the best he will be, probably in his career. That’s not very good. He’s at best a poor third outfielder and a decent fourth one.

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by travdog6 on Jul 5, 2009 8:08 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Pardon me, sir

But he is an excellent 4th outfielder. He can hit for average coming off the bench and can play all 3 OF positions, 2 of them very well.

He’s an unnecessary luxury item for a team that is not contending, though.

by Joey C. on Jul 5, 2009 9:17 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Meh you're right.

The last line of your reply is the key to my indifference at the moment.

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by travdog6 on Jul 5, 2009 9:22 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Buck is a better pure hitter

he’s just not getting the ABs. Small Sample Size.

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Free Travis Buck.

by Blicks on Jul 5, 2009 8:03 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Small sample size, fine, but Sweeney has proven to be a better hitter than Buck over the past few years.

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by Rated-R Superstar on Jul 5, 2009 8:04 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Meh, I guess you could argue that.

But what you’re getting with Sweeney is his ceiling. He’s not gonna get much better than he is right now, which is a fringe outfielder. He might make a good fourth outfielder, but not much more.

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by travdog6 on Jul 5, 2009 8:05 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

He’s just 23 years old and I don’t see why he can’t become a .300 hitter. He’s hit .286 before, hitting .274 now (yeah, yeah, it’s not all about batting averages) and he’s been really, really hitting well since coming off the disabled list.

If he isn’t a true center fielder, fine, but he has only made one error this year and that was misplaying a ball off the bounce in the gap. The runner was going to make it to second base to begin with.

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by Rated-R Superstar on Jul 5, 2009 8:09 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Even if he becomes a .300 hitter, he has little value.

He hits for little power and rarely walks. His defense is ok to good. All in all, that’s not a very valuable guy. I think his high average makes him sexy (along with his stunning good looks), but he’s just not that good.

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by travdog6 on Jul 5, 2009 8:12 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Maybe he’ll never bang out 20 home runs, but again, he’s just 23 years old and could have some high-doubles seasons.

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by Rated-R Superstar on Jul 5, 2009 8:13 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

We shall see I guess.

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by travdog6 on Jul 5, 2009 8:14 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

why is this Sweeney's ceiling?

Mark Kotsay played 154 game is 1998 and walked 34 times with .318 obp at 22 years old,

in his 2nd year he played 148 games and walked 29 times. a .306 obp at 23

in his 3RD year Kotsay raised the obp to .347 and became a better hitter. there was no ceiling for him, why should there be a ceiling for Sweeney.

by Jessse on Jul 5, 2009 10:53 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Kotsay had power

and a history of a high OBP. Sweeney doesn’t really have either.

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by travdog6 on Jul 5, 2009 11:13 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

But he drove a motorcycle!

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by Helloooo 1st on Jul 6, 2009 12:11 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Used it to drive Macha right out of town!

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by Nico on Jul 6, 2009 8:04 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

If that's true,

Thank you Kotsay’s Motorcycle!

If Gallagher gets dealt maybe I should make that my new screen name…or maybe I should make one that doesn’t involve an A’s player’s name, since that’s probably not the best idea.

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by Gallagher's Watermelons on Jul 6, 2009 11:46 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

No it doesn't

Batting average is a really bad way to evaluate hitters. The key jobs of a hitter are (a) to get on base (i.e., not make outs) and (b) to drive the ball for extra bases, which can lead to big-scoring innings.

Batting average, by itself, doesn’t tell you much about those. Sweeney, for instance, doesn’t walk all that much and has basically no power. An AB in which he doesn’t slap a single to left is almost guaranteed to be an out. That’s not good.

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by Nick on Jul 5, 2009 8:01 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

His on-base percentage is higher than Ellis’, Cust’s, Garciaparra’s and Cabrera’s.

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by Rated-R Superstar on Jul 5, 2009 8:03 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Come on, his OBP is .004 higher than Cust’s this year. I’d say that Cust’s 50 point advantage in SLG outweighs that, wouldn’t you?

On Ellis, I’d say SSS. He’s been a very productive hitter in the past. Cabrera totally sucks this year, no doubt about it. Nomar sucks, too, but his OPS is almost identical to Sweeney’s this year.

"And Julio Franco is batting right-handed!" -- Wayne Hagin, A's radio play-by-play, mid-80s

by Nick on Jul 5, 2009 8:07 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Sweeney has also outperformed Buck over the past few years.

Ellis has been a productive hitter in the past, yes, but he has been in a downward slide lately and I think Sweeney will only get better.

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by Rated-R Superstar on Jul 5, 2009 8:11 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

You're free to think Sweeney will get better

The evidence in your favor is that he hit well as a 21-year-old in AAA for the White Sox 3 years ago, including a career-high of 13 HRs. The evidence against you is that he seems to have made no progress at all as a hitter in the years since.

As far as Buck is concerned, Sweeney has never hit as well as Buck did for the A’s in 2007. Not even close. Buck’s OPS for the A’s in 07 was higher than anything Sweeney’s ever done, even in the minors.

He looks like a hitter, and he can really tie into one from time to time. But he isn’t a good hitter right now, and it’s a big problem that he hasn’t progressed between the ages of 22 and 24.

"And Julio Franco is batting right-handed!" -- Wayne Hagin, A's radio play-by-play, mid-80s

by Nick on Jul 5, 2009 8:15 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

My imagination maybe

But it seems to me that Sweeney last year had a lot of fluke hits and didn’t seem to be driving the ball that well. This year I’m seeing a more authoritative swing and some really nice line drives. So I think I’m seeing improvement - as opposed to Cust who, in his third year, looks absolutely lost at the plate and in the field. And who’s 30.

by richwol1 on Jul 5, 2009 11:00 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Buck was raking before Sweeney ever came to Oakland

He just got hurt and isnt getting opportunities

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by hero66 on Jul 5, 2009 8:33 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I know. Buck had a really nice year in 2007 despite all the injuries.

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by Rated-R Superstar on Jul 5, 2009 8:41 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

DFA Time

I expect Raj to be DFA’ed tomorrow… he has no remaining options and has to clear waivers before being outrighted to Sacramento.

by muscatel on Jul 5, 2009 10:18 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Buck's almost certainly being sent back down.

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by OldhamA on Jul 6, 2009 3:20 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Not gonna hold my breath.

That’d be awesome though.

by Orodawg on Jul 5, 2009 7:41 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I was thinking that someone would need to come off the 40-man roster

but Ryan Webb was on the 40-man. What the hell was he doing there?

Well, that’s one less problem to solve, at least. But you’re right about the 25-man. Could be it for Raj.

"And Julio Franco is batting right-handed!" -- Wayne Hagin, A's radio play-by-play, mid-80s

by Nick on Jul 5, 2009 7:42 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Rule Five protection, maybe?

only thing I can think of…

by bobnothing on Jul 5, 2009 7:43 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

You're right. It was Rule 5 protection.

He was put on right before the Rule 5 last year.

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Free Travis Buck.

by Blicks on Jul 5, 2009 7:44 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

So then who's cut/sent down?

Davis is the obvious answer… though it could be Springer. If they cut Springer they’d probably then send Buck back down and bring up a pitcher.

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by brenarlo on Jul 5, 2009 7:46 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

How about Beane pull a shocker

and release Nomar or OCab.

That’s what I WANT.

I’ll get reeeally pissed if Buck is going to AAA though.

"You end up with a name like ‘Outman,’" he said last week. "What else are you going to do? You’re going to get people out, man." ~ Dallas Braden

Free Travis Buck.

by Blicks on Jul 5, 2009 7:48 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Ditto.

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by brenarlo on Jul 5, 2009 7:49 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Nomar. Pleaaaaaase!!

I have nothing against him as a person, but he’s done.

"And Julio Franco is batting right-handed!" -- Wayne Hagin, A's radio play-by-play, mid-80s

by Nick on Jul 5, 2009 7:53 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yep...

Pennington should be getting every AB that Nomar is getting.

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by brenarlo on Jul 5, 2009 7:54 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Well, not EVERY at-bat

Like the game last week when Nomar DH’ed and batted cleanup? I don’t really want the A’s doing that with Pennington.

"And Julio Franco is batting right-handed!" -- Wayne Hagin, A's radio play-by-play, mid-80s

by Nick on Jul 5, 2009 7:55 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

HAHAHA...

well Pennington would probably still be better.

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by brenarlo on Jul 5, 2009 7:56 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

So, basically, you want Pennington to take over.

emperor nobody: "can ben copeland play third will the mcgwire throwback jersey be sponsored by balco labs i think i am having non-nerve-damage related chest pains well there’s holliday’s homer for may"
Clayton Tanner. I have nothing witty to add.

by walkoff baltimore chop on Jul 5, 2009 8:11 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

as does Poppy.

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by Leopold Bloom on Jul 5, 2009 11:14 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Retirement in Boston?

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by nevermoor on Jul 5, 2009 8:24 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

That's what I was thinking.

Do they have to make the move today? Perhaps he plays the first game and hanges them up.

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by 5Aces on Jul 6, 2009 8:56 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Can't see them getting rid of Davis, unless they plan on playing Hairston at CF

I’m assuming Hairston will play corner outfield, no? correct me if I’m wrong (and having just got one thing right above, that makes it more likely I’m wrong here).

So Davis is the only player apart from Sweeney whom the A’s deem capable of playing CF; they don’t seem to like Denorfia there, so they’ll probably have to keep him. Which is, yknow. Something.

As much as I don’t want to see this, it’s gonna be Buck to AAA, isn’t it?

Unless they want to rest Cust, and he has a recurrance of his back injury for a few days, whilst they finalise the Holliday trade?

by bobnothing on Jul 5, 2009 7:51 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Harriston can play CF... at least for the rest of this year.

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by brenarlo on Jul 5, 2009 7:51 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

well, that'll be great, then

but the question is, do the A’s think he can?

by bobnothing on Jul 5, 2009 7:52 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I guess we'll see.

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by brenarlo on Jul 5, 2009 7:54 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Geren Announced Hairston CF Plans

He’ll be the primary CF, starting Monday at Fenway.

by muscatel on Jul 5, 2009 10:20 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Wow, some team out there might have carried Ryan Webb on their 25-man roster for a whole season?

Glad that wasn’t the A’s!

"And Julio Franco is batting right-handed!" -- Wayne Hagin, A's radio play-by-play, mid-80s

by Nick on Jul 5, 2009 7:47 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

We're looking at carrying Springer for a full season...

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by brenarlo on Jul 5, 2009 7:48 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Since doing really well as an 18-year-old in the instructional league back in 2004

Ryan Webb has consistently been beaten like a limping nag throughout the minors.

Point taken on Springer, though. And he’s costing Beane a lot more than $50,000, too.

"And Julio Franco is batting right-handed!" -- Wayne Hagin, A's radio play-by-play, mid-80s

by Nick on Jul 5, 2009 7:52 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I agree Webb ain't worth anything... Springer should be cut;

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by brenarlo on Jul 5, 2009 7:53 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Springer had a great April and June.

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by Rated-R Superstar on Jul 5, 2009 7:55 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Springer has trade value.

Maybe not a lot, but definitely more than zero. Therefore he should not be cut. If you want to get rid of him, trade him for some low-level prospects.

"Go ahead and overachieve, you scrappy Brett-Favre-colored walk-takers." —Rev Halofan

by iglew on Jul 5, 2009 9:37 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Springer

Springer has a FIP of 4.08. He hasn’t been as good as he was the last couple of years, but apart from an increased HR/IP ratio his peripherals are actually pretty good. He has been quite unlucky this year with a BABIP .425 and as that comes down so will his ERA. He would have some value to a team chasing a playoff berth.

by DeJay on Jul 6, 2009 3:11 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I heard he has really helped the young pitchers this year in an interview with Bailey

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by Eastbayjim on Jul 5, 2009 8:09 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I wonder how Springer interviewing Bailey helped the other young pitchers.

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by Nico on Jul 5, 2009 9:18 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Intimidation?

They saw what Russ said to Bailey. They know what’s coming.

by danmerqury on Jul 6, 2009 11:20 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

The Cubs carried, and still carry David Patton.

And they’re a contending team. LOL Hendry.

Patton succckckksss

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Free Travis Buck.

by Blicks on Jul 5, 2009 7:49 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

That's just 'cuz Hendry really loved "Ratatouille"

and he though he was getting Patton Oswalt.

"And Julio Franco is batting right-handed!" -- Wayne Hagin, A's radio play-by-play, mid-80s

by Nick on Jul 5, 2009 7:53 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Pile my food in a fucking bowl...

…I don’t give a shit. If you could figure out a way to liquefy it and inject it right into my femoral artery, even better, BUT, until you invent a lunch gun, I would like a failure pile in a sadness bowl.

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by Gallagher's Watermelons on Jul 5, 2009 11:38 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

that's freakin hilarious

I have absolutely no idea what it means, or what the hell a “lunch gun” is. But it’s fuckin hilarious. And…

I would like a failure pile in a sadness bowl.

is a quote begging to be tagged to a Geren pic.

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by Kallus on Jul 5, 2009 11:41 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Pretty sure he was talking about those KFC bowls

where they mush an entire dinner into a bowl like baby food.

by danmerqury on Jul 6, 2009 11:21 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yes

Patton Oswalt, from “Werewolves and Lollipops”

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by Gallagher's Watermelons on Jul 6, 2009 11:48 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

That's a classic bit

"And Julio Franco is batting right-handed!" -- Wayne Hagin, A's radio play-by-play, mid-80s

by Nick on Jul 6, 2009 6:46 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Looks like Beane bought low.

I can’t complain about the pitchers he gave up. Hope they put it together in the Padres’ system (they’re actually putting together a decent amount of young, lower level pitching depth) but the big question is this.

What the hellll does this mean for Cunningham and Buck and even Sweeney, to an extent (Hairston is a good defensive CF). This is the REAL issue, not the pitchers. If they’re getting their playing time cut, that’s an awful thing.

"You end up with a name like ‘Outman,’" he said last week. "What else are you going to do? You’re going to get people out, man." ~ Dallas Braden

Free Travis Buck.

by Blicks on Jul 5, 2009 7:47 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

I guess that's why there's obvious speculation about another deal coming soon.

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by brenarlo on Jul 5, 2009 7:48 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Oh yeah.

I want to throw the Cubs out there as a Holliday suitor.

The Cubs won’t have an excuse to bench Bradley without a grievance unless they trade for an OFer.

"You end up with a name like ‘Outman,’" he said last week. "What else are you going to do? You’re going to get people out, man." ~ Dallas Braden

Free Travis Buck.

by Blicks on Jul 5, 2009 7:50 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

how is this buying low?

Beane traded for Hairston in what has been his best offensive year, easily.
I really like the trade, but you can’t say he bought low, that doesn’t make sense. I am excited about this though.
The odd thing about this trade though, is that this almost gives an indication that Beane still holds hope that they could compete this year, maybe that’s me, but I dunno…

by stranahanahan on Jul 5, 2009 10:28 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Hairston is cost-controlled for two more years

This trade doesn’t mean the team is “going for it” this year. Being slightly better for the rest of this year is an added bonus, sure, but I think it’s really about 2010 and 2011.

"Go ahead and overachieve, you scrappy Brett-Favre-colored walk-takers." —Rev Halofan

by iglew on Jul 5, 2009 10:32 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

agreed

but it just seems interesting to make a trade like this now…

by stranahanahan on Jul 5, 2009 10:44 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Billy has said many times that he doesn't believe

in the “seller” vs “buyer” dichotomy. He just makes whatever deal looks good to him at the time.

"Go ahead and overachieve, you scrappy Brett-Favre-colored walk-takers." —Rev Halofan

by iglew on Jul 5, 2009 10:46 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Because the Padres are in sell mode

If he wants Hairston, this is his moment. This sort of offer might not be around in the offseason, ergo, you do it now regardless of whether you’re competing or not.

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by DMOAS on Jul 5, 2009 10:48 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

How did Beane buy low on Hairston, he's hitting really well this year.

I’m worried who that PTBNL is.

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by OldhamA on Jul 6, 2009 3:31 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

comment on Talking Chop

said Vasquez has a no trade clause to any AL or NL West team.

alaska A residing in northern Idaho.

by ak_A on Jul 5, 2009 7:48 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

There's no way in hell Vasquez gets traded to the A's...

why would they trade their best pitcher for a rent-a-hitter when they’re in contention?

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by brenarlo on Jul 5, 2009 7:50 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'm not even sure they'd trade Escobar, just because who would play SS?

That’s why I wish Furcal had signed with the Braves.

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by Nico on Jul 5, 2009 9:19 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Either he really hates the West coast or he worked out previously that

the majority of those teams would suck this year.

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by OldhamA on Jul 6, 2009 3:32 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Seems like a good deal

My first reaction was surprise, I should know by now that you can’t predict what Beane is going to do. I am a little concerned about playing time for guys like Buck and Cunningham but when it comes down to it, this team cannot hit, so adding hitters who will be around to help next season is a good idea.

As long as the PTBNL is not significantly better than Webb or Italiano I think we got a good deal on this one.

by DiegoAsFan on Jul 5, 2009 7:53 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Cunningham has playing time

it’s in Sacramento. He’s doing pretty well.

by sf drift king on Jul 6, 2009 1:07 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

PTBNL

er, sudden thought – could someone be forced to be a PTBNL if they had just been named as a team’s only representative in the All Star Game?

this would make me sad, if this were the case

by bobnothing on Jul 5, 2009 7:55 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Oh hell naw. I hope not.

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Free Travis Buck.

by Blicks on Jul 5, 2009 7:57 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Drink more!

Duh!

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by travdog6 on Jul 5, 2009 7:58 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

The dreams subside.

Give it time.

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by Leopold Bloom on Jul 5, 2009 11:16 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I thought that was when the nightmares start

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by day-to-day on Jul 5, 2009 8:56 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

That's one thing I'm NOT worried about

Seriously, how on earth is Scott Hairston all Beane would be able to get for Andrew Bailey? And why would he need to toss in 2 minor-league pitchers?

"And Julio Franco is batting right-handed!" -- Wayne Hagin, A's radio play-by-play, mid-80s

by Nick on Jul 5, 2009 7:58 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Exactly....

Bailey isn’t going anywhere. Same for Suzuki. Other than that, I’m not sure anyone’s off limits.

by andyinfremont on Jul 5, 2009 8:01 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'd hope MAC is off limits.

Unless we’re talking moves to Sacramento.

"You end up with a name like ‘Outman,’" he said last week. "What else are you going to do? You’re going to get people out, man." ~ Dallas Braden

Free Travis Buck.

by Blicks on Jul 5, 2009 8:02 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

MAC

is/are probably safe, given that Duke is a question mark and Outman is on the shelf until at least mid-2010. It’s hard to see the A’s trading away starting pitching unless they’re confident someone’s ready in AAA (and they don’t mind starting/continuing the arby clock on that player). And if that person existed, they might have already come up instead of Gio. But I still see MAC as a notch below Bailey/Suzuki on the “no-trade” list.

by andyinfremont on Jul 5, 2009 8:13 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah, true.

"You end up with a name like ‘Outman,’" he said last week. "What else are you going to do? You’re going to get people out, man." ~ Dallas Braden

Free Travis Buck.

by Blicks on Jul 5, 2009 8:02 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Talking out of my backside, here

But isn’t the PTBNL usually pretty inconsequential? In my experience, the sexy names get… well, named.

by Joey C. on Jul 5, 2009 9:31 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Not necessarily.

CC Sabathia (can’t remember the name, but PTBNL is a good prospect) and Jim Thome (PTBNL= Gio Gonzalez) trades are some examples. And whatever trade Coco Crisp was a PTBNL in some years ago.

And DeRosa trade, the PTBNL is supposedly one of the Cards’ better prospects.

"You end up with a name like ‘Outman,’" he said last week. "What else are you going to do? You’re going to get people out, man." ~ Dallas Braden

Free Travis Buck.

by Blicks on Jul 6, 2009 6:52 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

my prayers are on Eveland...

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by Gaijin_Suketto on Jul 6, 2009 12:54 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Eveland's healthy and playing for the Cats

why wait to add him to the trade late? I just hope it’s not Gallagher; he’s injured right now. And isn’t there something that states you can’t trade an injured player?

by sf drift king on Jul 6, 2009 1:10 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

You can trade an injured player with permission from the commish's office

and that could be a reason that he’s the PTBNL.

"You end up with a name like ‘Outman,’" he said last week. "What else are you going to do? You’re going to get people out, man." ~ Dallas Braden

Free Travis Buck.

by Blicks on Jul 6, 2009 6:50 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I like this deal

Hairston is a serviceable CFer and isn’t that bad of a hitter (especially compared to the rest of the lineup). Not only does this open up the possibility of flipping Hairston with Holliday, Beane could also potentially use Sweeney/Buck/Cunningham as trade pieces and maybe package one of them with Holliday. True, the current trio has more potential than Hairston, but he’s solid, making one of the three more attractive players tradeable so that the A’s could finally solve the gaping hole at left side of the infield.

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by muffinpryde on Jul 5, 2009 8:01 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Are there any teams willing to take 2 MLB-ready OFs in a trade?

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by brenarlo on Jul 5, 2009 8:02 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Atlanta?

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by travdog6 on Jul 5, 2009 8:03 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

That was my first thought.

Their OF outside of McLouth sucks.

Garret Anderson—-just hate him and he needs to be out of baseball. Francoeur we all know sucks.

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by Blicks on Jul 5, 2009 8:07 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

The Braves need an OF'er and dont want Escobar

Paging Billy Beane, paging Billy Beane

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by hero66 on Jul 5, 2009 8:36 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'm guessing this is sarcasm

I’m saying possibly trading Holliday with Hairston or potentially Holliday w/ one of Sweeney/Buck/Cunningham. Hairston can stay in center for the next couple season and the remaining two could take the corners. Or, possibly, two of the four outfielders (not including Holliday) could be traded so the remaining two would take the outfield, and maybe have Sean Doolittle play there as well. Barton could have another chance at 1B and Chris Carter would fill in at DH. If Barton can’t seem to play well, try out Tommy Everidge: he’s been mashing at Sacramento, might as well give it a shot.

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by muffinpryde on Jul 5, 2009 8:08 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

no, no

not especially sarcasm – I was just like the concept of selling on Holliday packaged with his replacement when the buying team can’t resign him for next year. whether it’ll work or not, who knows.

sorry if my comment came across as pissy; i was just trying to expand on what you said

by bobnothing on Jul 5, 2009 8:11 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Ah, good point

And it never seemed pissy, I was just elaborating a little as well. :-)

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by muffinpryde on Jul 5, 2009 8:12 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Very nice! I like!

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by muffinpryde on Jul 5, 2009 8:25 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

PTBNL info.
Corey Brock of MLB.com tells us that Padres GM Kevin Towers “sounded excited” about the player to be named later, who will be one of two pitchers in the A’s organizaion. One of these unnamed players reportedly has Major League service time.

Emphasis mine. This could be interesting.

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by Blicks on Jul 5, 2009 8:09 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Casilla I bet.

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by brenarlo on Jul 5, 2009 8:10 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I hope

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by muffinpryde on Jul 5, 2009 8:11 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Simmons doesn't have MLB service time.

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by Blicks on Jul 5, 2009 8:12 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

only one of the two names does

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by The Most Interesting mAN on Jul 5, 2009 8:12 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Reading comprehension

he player to be named later, who will be one of two pitchers in the A’s organizaion. One of these unnamed players reportedly has Major League service time.

One of them has service. The other does not

by Orodawg on Jul 5, 2009 8:13 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Sorry. My bad.

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by Blicks on Jul 5, 2009 8:14 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I have two coins totalling $.15

One of them is not a nickle, what are the two coins?

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by Helloooo 1st on Jul 6, 2009 12:19 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

A nickel is not a nickle.

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by iglew on Jul 6, 2009 1:43 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

A dime...

… and an 1873 seated liberty half dime.

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by Kelly on Jul 6, 2009 6:11 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

A 15 cent piece and Sean Gallagher?

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by Nico on Jul 6, 2009 8:08 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

A quarter and Bobby Crosby?

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by Gallagher's Watermelons on Jul 6, 2009 11:49 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Could be Eveland

Towers is known to make stupid trades and if Eveland is in there that would be.

I hope so.

by Trainman on Jul 5, 2009 8:13 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

No, Kevin Towers sounded excited, not frightened.

But in all seriousness I bet that’s who it is.

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by travdog6 on Jul 5, 2009 8:13 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Eveland would probably pitch well in petco

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by designatedforassignment on Jul 5, 2009 8:14 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I don't think so

Eveland has been better than Egon ever was.

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by designatedforassignment on Jul 5, 2009 8:17 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

But then they'd have TWO Egons!

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by muffinpryde on Jul 5, 2009 8:17 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

The other Egon needs to be released though

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by Blicks on Jul 5, 2009 8:18 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

That's no fun.

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by muffinpryde on Jul 5, 2009 8:20 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

QOTM

Who you going to call-edition

PREPAREDNESS_Because those goddamn zombies aren’t going to kill themselves

by adragon on Jul 6, 2009 9:43 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

What about Blevins?

Could be him. I’m sure it wont be anybody too valuable. Hell, it could be Jay Marshall or Jerome Williams.

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by hero66 on Jul 5, 2009 8:37 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Then why not announce the 3rd name now?

Blevins, Williams and Marshall are all healthy now, why would SD wait to pick up their guy?

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by grover on Jul 5, 2009 9:12 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Is it possible that the choice between two guys is not

Towers’ choice but Beane’s? That is, maybe the PTBNL agreement says we promise we’ll give you one of these two guys but we haven’t decided yet which one. If Towers likes both of them, he agrees to it. That gives Beane more flexibility if he’s simultaneous looking to trade one of the two somewhere else.

The Rosenthal column says the PTBNL will be announced at the end of the month, which could mean Kevin is giving Billy till the trade deadline to make his decision and hand the guy over.

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by iglew on Jul 5, 2009 9:50 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

After I posted that, I notice that one of the

reports says it is indeed Towers’ choice.

I think something like Gallagher-or-Eveland makes a lot of sense. Italiano and Webb are filler. The PTBNL needs to be better than what Towers could have gotten for Hairston elsewhere.

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by iglew on Jul 5, 2009 10:34 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Towers Said ONE Pitcher On PTBNL List Had MLB Service Time

Both Gallagher and Eveland do, so that is not possible.

by muscatel on Jul 5, 2009 10:40 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

The quote I saw wasn't clear on that point.

The implication was that the other one didn’t, but it didn’t actually say that.

The quote I saw just said that one of the two has ML service time; it didn’t say anything either way about the other.

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by iglew on Jul 5, 2009 10:45 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

It could be Eveland and Simmons or Gallagher and Simmons

or even Gio

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by Eastbayjim on Jul 6, 2009 1:28 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Gallagher and Simmons make sense

Gallagher will be off the DL in a months time. If the Padres are unhappy with his recovery then they have the option of Simmons as a back up.

by DeJay on Jul 6, 2009 3:15 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'll lose my mind

If Simmons is the PTBNL

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by hero66 on Jul 6, 2009 12:33 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Agreed.

He’s easily a pretty decent #4-5 in the NL, especially in that division and Petco. Really good trade for Towers if PTBNL is Eveland.

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by Blicks on Jul 5, 2009 8:15 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

In Petco he could turn into a #3

the problem with a lot of base runners is when you give up a dinger its bad. With the lack of dingers at petco thats less of a problem… though the screaming double still clears the bases.

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by designatedforassignment on Jul 5, 2009 8:18 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

My first though was Eveland too

That would be OK by me, although it certainly makes the trade significantly more costly. To me Eveland is expendable because he doesn’t seem to be above 6 or 7 on the starting depth chart, even accounting for the absence of Duke/Outman. And there seem to be younger/more promising guys on the way up the chain who will quickly pass Dana.

by andyinfremont on Jul 5, 2009 8:19 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

"Yes, please!" on Eveland

Seems like a good trade for both teams. (Until the Padres find out more about Eveland first-hand.)

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by Nico on Jul 5, 2009 9:22 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Gallagher or Eveland

Makes sense. The end of the month means that Gallagher will be back from his injury. If he doesn’t seem quite ready, it’s Eveland. If he does, it’s Gallagher.

by richwol1 on Jul 5, 2009 11:31 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

not so sure...

I’d rather take Gallagher regardless and let him fully heal. The Padres are rebuilding anyways, so what’s the rush? And besides.

Gallagher>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Eveland

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by Kallus on Jul 5, 2009 11:34 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

No foolin'

Unless there’s a chance Gallagher is crippled, you take him over Eveland in any condition. I hope Billy put an “As Is” clause in the deal!

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by Nico on Jul 6, 2009 8:09 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I hope, but my gut says I don't think so.

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by Blicks on Jul 5, 2009 8:11 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

But my gut is also hungry.

emperor nobody: "can ben copeland play third will the mcgwire throwback jersey be sponsored by balco labs i think i am having non-nerve-damage related chest pains well there’s holliday’s homer for may"
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by walkoff baltimore chop on Jul 5, 2009 8:14 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Go for the sandwich, Gob!

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by Leopold Bloom on Jul 5, 2009 11:20 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

he couldnt just tell us who the 2 players were, couldnt he

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by The Most Interesting mAN on Jul 5, 2009 8:12 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

He could, but generally they don't.

The Jess Todd thing when the Cards got DeRosa is an example

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by Blicks on Jul 5, 2009 8:14 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Ziegler, maybe?

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by grover on Jul 5, 2009 8:13 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'd be ok with that.

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by brenarlo on Jul 5, 2009 8:14 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Same here.

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by Blicks on Jul 5, 2009 8:15 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I wouldn't

I irrationaly love that guy.

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by travdog6 on Jul 5, 2009 8:15 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

This is what scares me

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by designatedforassignment on Jul 5, 2009 8:16 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yes

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by nevermoor on Jul 5, 2009 8:27 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

good point

and his PTBNL status would come from him being on the DL, too, no?

I bet that’s who it is

by bobnothing on Jul 5, 2009 8:16 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

That would make logical sense, but DO NOT WANT.

(wanting to see how he pitches when he comes off the DL)

But seriously, DO NOT WANT.

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by Blicks on Jul 5, 2009 8:16 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yup, seems like the most likely possibility

Could be Gray, I suppose. Other organizations seem to think he’s a sleeper.

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by Nick on Jul 5, 2009 8:17 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Nice idea

He makes sense too…

by Orodawg on Jul 5, 2009 8:18 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Has anyone mentioned Gio Gonzalez yet?

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by Rated-R Superstar on Jul 5, 2009 8:16 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Also DO NOT WANT.

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by Blicks on Jul 5, 2009 8:16 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I've always been a believer in Gio

So, I agree with Blicks.

DOES NOT WANT

by Orodawg on Jul 5, 2009 8:19 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'm not worried about that one

Gallagher is plausible because he’s clearly talented, he’s succeeded in the majors, he’s injured right now (and thus can’t be in the trade until he’s off the DL), and the A’s obviously don’t like him.

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by Nick on Jul 5, 2009 8:21 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

wouldn't have pitched today if he was it

although otherwise I would have thought so too

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by closetasfan on Jul 5, 2009 8:53 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Putnam?

According to scout.com the A’s traded Danny Putnam to SD earlier this weekend and they speculate Putnam could be the PTBNL. That’d be nice if it turns out to be true. He does have ML service time but obviously he is not a pitcher.

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by youdownwithOBP on Jul 5, 2009 9:34 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

if thats the player its a Frickin A trade.

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by designatedforassignment on Jul 5, 2009 10:17 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Blevins

I bet it’s Blevins

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by Gallagher's Watermelons on Jul 5, 2009 11:40 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Me too

Unfortunately I think someone already has PTBNL

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by Gallagher's Watermelons on Jul 6, 2009 11:50 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

PTBNL's Watermelons is available

m*****f***ing c***s***ing peanut butter and jelly!! f*** f*** f***!!!

by JediLeroy on Jul 6, 2009 2:30 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Ruh roh, that sounds like Gallagher.

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by OldhamA on Jul 6, 2009 3:37 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Help, I can't figure this out.

Does this make or break a case for Ludwick coming to OAK? OF of Buck, Hairston, Ludwick doesn’t sound so bad.

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by The Most Interesting mAN on Jul 5, 2009 8:10 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Ludwick had 1 good year... and he's 31 year's old. Why would a rebuilding team want him?

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by brenarlo on Jul 5, 2009 8:12 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Hairston had 1/3 of a good year...and he's 29 years old.

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by The Most Interesting mAN on Jul 5, 2009 8:14 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

We traded AAA garbage for him... we'd be trading Holliday for Ludwick.

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by brenarlo on Jul 5, 2009 8:14 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Well, Italiano was Single-A garbage.

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by Rated-R Superstar on Jul 5, 2009 8:15 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Well then the A's will keep Holliday.

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by brenarlo on Jul 5, 2009 8:16 PM PDT up reply