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Thread Moves On: A's Up 3-2 After 7

Oakland Athletics' Kurt Suzuki hits an RBI-single, scoring teammate Adam Kennedy, in the first inning of a baseball game against the Cleveland Indians, on Sunday, July 5, 2009, at Progressive Field in Cleveland, Ohio. (AP Photo/David Richard)

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4 months ago: Oakland Athletics' Kurt Suzuki hits an RBI-single, scoring teammate Adam Kennedy, in the first inning of a baseball game against the Cleveland Indians, on Sunday, July 5, 2009, at Progressive Field in Cleveland, Ohio. (AP Photo/David Richard)

Wonderful effort by Gio Gonzalez today, allowing two runs in six innings of work, while striking out 8. Just enough offense has A's clinging to a 3-2 lead.

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So here's my thinking for the 8th/9th

With Hafner and Martinez available, you can’t guarantee Ziggy a group of right-handers to face, and you know that if someone else starts the 8th Bailey will be up as soon as there’s a baserunner. So why not just give Bailey the ball to start the 8th and let him go? He’s well rested.

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by Nico on Jul 5, 2009 12:22 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Geren's thinking

“Let’s overwork Wuertz another inning.”

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by Flashfire on Jul 5, 2009 12:32 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Two threads.

Must be a good sign.

Nico: Okay. We have twelve hours to make a really big pickle.

by pam5981 on Jul 5, 2009 12:23 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Vince is dreaming

Ken Ko: “This is the only visit to Cleveland this year”

Vince: “(in the regular season)”

"Go ahead and overachieve, you scrappy Brett-Favre-colored walk-takers." —Rev Halofan

by iglew on Jul 5, 2009 12:24 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

i think VC is smoking something

on a regular basis

Roy Steele is the voice of God

by cuppingmaster on Jul 5, 2009 12:24 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

perhaps

maybe only crawford is marginally deserving, but zobrist and bartlett are definitely deserving

Roy Steele is the voice of God

by cuppingmaster on Jul 5, 2009 1:09 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

o_O

I can haz rally?

by whiteshoes40 on Jul 5, 2009 12:25 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

???

Aren’t we ahead?

"Go ahead and overachieve, you scrappy Brett-Favre-colored walk-takers." —Rev Halofan

by iglew on Jul 5, 2009 12:26 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I realize that it SEEMS like we call for a rally every day,

but technically we only do it when we’re behind.

"Go ahead and overachieve, you scrappy Brett-Favre-colored walk-takers." —Rev Halofan

by iglew on Jul 5, 2009 12:28 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

"Rally" = runs for the team that is behind.

"Go ahead and overachieve, you scrappy Brett-Favre-colored walk-takers." —Rev Halofan

by iglew on Jul 5, 2009 12:27 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

What did you call us?

I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal

by Nico on Jul 5, 2009 12:30 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Landon Powell

sure seems like a pretty good hitter.

by bear88 on Jul 5, 2009 12:27 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Bobby Crosby struck again.

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by Rated-R Superstar on Jul 5, 2009 12:27 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Yay insurance!

Nico: Okay. We have twelve hours to make a really big pickle.

by pam5981 on Jul 5, 2009 12:27 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

i think if you drive runs in by hitting into a DP

it shouldn’t be worth anything. in any other situation that’s the worst kind of hit to get. it only works because there were 0 outs

Roy Steele is the voice of God

by cuppingmaster on Jul 5, 2009 12:29 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

in this case forgive my ignorance

is this a stat kept by fantasy people. GIDPWOO or something?

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by cuppingmaster on Jul 5, 2009 12:32 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

No, it's part of the rules/official scoring

There’s no stat that shows how many times someone GIDP with a run scoring that I know of.

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by Flashfire on Jul 5, 2009 12:33 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Damn, that was a nice play.

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by Rated-R Superstar on Jul 5, 2009 12:33 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

We better win.

I’ve been watching sports since 6am. I’m tired.

Nico: Okay. We have twelve hours to make a really big pickle.

by pam5981 on Jul 5, 2009 12:34 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

What the hell did you get up at 6am for?

No sport warrants that.

"Go ahead and overachieve, you scrappy Brett-Favre-colored walk-takers." —Rev Halofan

by iglew on Jul 5, 2009 12:36 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

wimbleton i suppose

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by cuppingmaster on Jul 5, 2009 12:36 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Wimbledon final.

And it was TOTALLY warranted. And worth it, except that I don’t like Roger Federer, so that sucked. But the match was awesome.

Nico: Okay. We have twelve hours to make a really big pickle.

by pam5981 on Jul 5, 2009 12:37 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

At least you saw a good match

I happened to turn it on later in the morning in time to catch the final game.

Federer seems like a decent enough guy, just a bit smug when he’s winning. I felt sorry for Roddick, though. Winning that match – at Wimbledon, in front of Sampras, Laver, and Borg, against Federer – would have undone every disappointment in his career.

by bear88 on Jul 5, 2009 12:41 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Seriously.

And Fed just couldn’t figure out his serve, and only broke him ONCE…and it won him the title. Argh. He bugs.

Nico: Okay. We have twelve hours to make a really big pickle.

by pam5981 on Jul 5, 2009 12:42 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

You don’t want a runner on with Choo coming up.

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by Rated-R Superstar on Jul 5, 2009 12:35 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

ixnay on the inxjay

"Go ahead and overachieve, you scrappy Brett-Favre-colored walk-takers." —Rev Halofan

by iglew on Jul 5, 2009 12:37 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Soooo...

…you don’t have enough faith in Wuertz to get Choo out with nobody on that you bring Bailey in for a 4-out save, Geren?

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by Flashfire on Jul 5, 2009 12:37 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Geren believes in giving pitchers consistent roles

Bailey’s role is the 4-out closer.

"Go ahead and overachieve, you scrappy Brett-Favre-colored walk-takers." —Rev Halofan

by iglew on Jul 5, 2009 12:39 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Do we really want to blow out Bailey's arm.

"You end up with a name like ‘Outman,’" he said last week. "What else are you going to do? You’re going to get people out, man." ~ Dallas Braden

Free Travis Buck.

by Blicks on Jul 5, 2009 12:42 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Among relievers, he's like top 3 in IP though

Or was earlier in teh season.

"You end up with a name like ‘Outman,’" he said last week. "What else are you going to do? You’re going to get people out, man." ~ Dallas Braden

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by Blicks on Jul 5, 2009 12:45 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

No, it's not really

Not when he’s on pace to go over 100 innings. It’s easy to say “So what? He started in the minors,” but the training regimens starters and relievers go through aren’t the same. That’s why relievers need to be “stretched out” before starting, so they can build up the ability to pitch a starter’s workload. Starters throw side sessions between their games but relief pitchers have to be ready every day.

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by Flashfire on Jul 5, 2009 12:51 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I grew up watching Rollie Fingers throw 3 inning saves.

He was just fine throwing a lot of innings and had a long hall-of fame career. It should be ok.

by jdub69 on Jul 5, 2009 12:54 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

No but its all conditioning

Teams condition their closers to throw fewer innings and throw harder in those innings

That’s like training to run a sprint and then running a marathon at sprint speed. You either can’t do it or you fuck something up.

"You end up with a name like ‘Outman,’" he said last week. "What else are you going to do? You’re going to get people out, man." ~ Dallas Braden

Free Travis Buck.

by Blicks on Jul 5, 2009 12:56 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Probably, yeah

Do you see closers going three innings these days?

Didn’t think so.

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by Flashfire on Jul 5, 2009 12:57 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

well then...

if humans are lamer today then you have a point. I say a reliever that can’t handle a 100 innings a year is a pussy and I don’t want him on the team.

by jdub69 on Jul 5, 2009 12:59 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

That's ridiculous

Bailey throws a cutter and 95 MPH 2-seam fastball. Were that Fingers’ repertoire, he wouldn’t have gotten 3-inning saves either.

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by Nico on Jul 5, 2009 1:00 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I realize that 3 inning saves are a thing of the past, but,

a pitcher not being able to handle a 100 inning a year workload is weak.

by jdub69 on Jul 5, 2009 1:02 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

No, it's really not

There’s no reason they should need to pitch that much in today’s game.

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by Flashfire on Jul 5, 2009 1:10 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

It's probably a good thing you're not the manager, then

Mariano Rivera averages between 70-80 innings a season, just as one example.

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by Flashfire on Jul 5, 2009 1:01 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Exactly. And he's freaking elite.

"You end up with a name like ‘Outman,’" he said last week. "What else are you going to do? You’re going to get people out, man." ~ Dallas Braden

Free Travis Buck.

by Blicks on Jul 5, 2009 1:02 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

It's your responsibility to prove it

But, you won’t be able to unless you’re a) a doctor with evidence supporting that belief and/or b) a manager willing to run his relievers out there for 100+ innings.

Again, it’s probably a good thing you’re neither of those things.

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by Flashfire on Jul 5, 2009 1:17 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Rollie Fingers - hall of famer, long career.

Threw over a hundred innings every year from 1969 thru 1980 (except one year when he threw 83).

by jdub69 on Jul 5, 2009 1:25 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

And how long ago was that, again?

One more time:

This. Is. A. Different. Era.

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by Flashfire on Jul 5, 2009 1:28 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Humans. Can. Still. Do. It.

If they’re not pussies.

by jdub69 on Jul 5, 2009 1:31 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I really don't get you

Pitchers are not pussies because they don’t pitch to a standard of yours that is well in the past.

Should starters be pitching as much as people like Cy Young, Christy Mathewson and Walter Johnson did, just because they did it when they played?

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by Flashfire on Jul 5, 2009 1:34 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'm saying nothing more than

any pitcher, reliever or starter, should be in good enough condition to throw a hundred innings a year. That’s it. Is that so hard to get?

by jdub69 on Jul 5, 2009 1:38 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

And that they're pussies if they can't

Starters? Of course they can go over 100 innings. Relievers? Maybe they can, maybe they can’t, but the way the game is now there’s no NEED for them to and when someone approaches even 80+ innings the opinion is they’re being overused (basically an inning every other game).

This is like a carbon copy of the debate I had with my father over 15 years ago about basketball. He’s 30 years older than I am and he couldn’t watch basketball any more because when he used to follow it any little contact was an automatic foul. All I could do was tell him that’s just not how the game is any more.

You grew up used to seeing relievers used differently than they are today. If that means it’s what you still want and expect even though the game has clearly gone in another direction, I can’t do anything for you.

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by Flashfire on Jul 5, 2009 1:48 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Dude,

don’t get your panties in a bunch over this. I excepted the Larussa invented one inning closer thing years ago when he inserted Eckersley into the spot and the A’s went to three consecutive world series.

My beef boils down to conditioning. It is my opinion that these guys are making a lot of money and should be in good enough shape to throw a hundred innings – whether they NEED to or not.

If it makes you feel better I take back calling them pussies. I’ll just say that they’re wimps if they can’t do it.

by jdub69 on Jul 5, 2009 1:58 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Sorry

I wasn’t aware disagreeing with you equaled my panties being in a bunch.

Let me guess: you like macho things.

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by Flashfire on Jul 5, 2009 2:06 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Laughs

I don’t even know how to respond to that but I’ll let it go here.

by jdub69 on Jul 5, 2009 2:13 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Call it a vibe I get from you

You sound old-school, “things-should-be-the-way-they-were,” “people are wimpy, weak, or pussies if they can’t do it the way I think they should even though it’s outdated.”

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by Flashfire on Jul 5, 2009 2:21 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

A vibe, OK.

I’m pretty sure I’m not gonna lose any sleep over the fact that Flashfire doesn’t like me or my opinions. I’m also relatively certain that you’re not the cutting-edge hipster that you’re trying to portray here.

By the way, nothing you have in quotes is anything I have said exactly. Those are your interpretations.

by jdub69 on Jul 5, 2009 2:31 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Not a hipster, not even close

And if you go back through the things you’ve said, it’s VERY clear that’s the way you feel by bringing up Rollie Fingers going 3 innings over 30 years ago and having no trouble with it compared to relief pitchers today and saying if one can’t throw 100 innings he’s a pussy.

What else WOULD you be trying to suggest?

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by Flashfire on Jul 5, 2009 2:34 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I do stand by the statement that

all pitchers should be in condition to throw a hundred innings a year. They are professionals not babies.

I have revised the pussy statement to wimps.

Rollie Fingers was brought up by myself simply to reference the fact that it is humanly possible to throw a hundred innings a year as a reliever for a long period of time and not blow your arm out.

Don’ t add anything else to the argument that isn’t there.

by jdub69 on Jul 5, 2009 2:49 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

By suggesting pitchers are wimps...

…if they can’t, won’t or don’t pitch with the kind of workload people like Rollie Fingers, Bruce Sutter and so on did, I feel pretty comfortable in criticizing your position and describing it the way I have.

If you recall, this really started out with you saying that since Bailey had worked as a starter before then he’d have no problem pitching a lot of innings as a reliever. The counter to that began with me explaining that based on the roles starters and relievers have, their training regimens and workouts are not the same.

When a relief pitcher is conditioned to throw all he’s got an inning at a time and you want him to go to starting, he’s going to need time to get stretched out or he’s going to have a serious injury because he’s not ready for the additional pitches it requires.

On the other hand, someone who’s used to starting and pitching once every five days, even with side sessions in between you can’t expect him to just go start pitching in game situations every other day or even consecutively. It’s not just a physical change but a mental one as well.

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by Flashfire on Jul 5, 2009 2:54 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I recall

W A’s Fan being the one that said “he used to be a starter so he can handle it”. It wasn’t me who said that. It’s actually below all this mess if you want to reference it.

I understand everything else you say in this post of yours here but those are not my arguments. That is information for W A’s Fan.

by jdub69 on Jul 5, 2009 3:04 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Correct

My bad on that part.

In the end we just disagree on this one overall.

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by Flashfire on Jul 5, 2009 3:07 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

And really, on average...

…Rollie’s games were about 2 innings based on his IP and appearances.

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by Flashfire on Jul 5, 2009 2:36 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

True.

In actuality I recall more than a few times he went three but, still, you’re getting hung up on the 3 inning closer thing which is an argument that I’m not making. I’m making an innings per year argument.

by jdub69 on Jul 5, 2009 2:53 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Well...

…you did start out with “I grew up watching Rollie Fingers throw 3 inning saves,” then you said he threw a lot of innings and had a long, HOF career.

Just because he did it and did it well doesn’t mean everyone can, especially today.

Rollie was an elite pitcher.

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by Flashfire on Jul 5, 2009 2:56 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Why are we blaming the relievers,

when today’s wussy starters refuse to pitch every fourth day and toss 300+ innings?

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by Nico on Jul 5, 2009 3:00 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Now that we can agree on.

Rollie was an elite pitcher!

by jdub69 on Jul 5, 2009 3:07 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

so since my great grandfather is still alive..

and almost 100, he could argue that starters can go 18 innings in one game and throw again 2 days later?

by VV A's fan on Jul 5, 2009 1:30 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'm 39.

I’m not quite ready to take that one on.

by jdub69 on Jul 5, 2009 1:33 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Relievers can handle 100 innings a year IF their teams condition them accordingly

Again. You can’t run a marathon with a sprinter mentality.

A good example to look at would be Carlos Marmol’s 2008 v. his 2009. Marmol had a MAJOR innings jump in 2008, when you factor in playoffs and WBC this year, and he’s totally screwed up this year.

"You end up with a name like ‘Outman,’" he said last week. "What else are you going to do? You’re going to get people out, man." ~ Dallas Braden

Free Travis Buck.

by Blicks on Jul 5, 2009 1:02 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Most relievers don't even get close to 100 APPEARANCES a season, let alone innings

I don’t remember the last time a relief pitcher’s thrown 100+ innings in one year. Marmol was at 87.1 in 2008, to use him as an example.

This is a different era. Closers and relievers normally work one inning, sometimes two max.

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by Flashfire on Jul 5, 2009 1:04 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Right,

they don’t even get close to 100 innings in a ear but they sure as shit better be “conditioned” to pitch them if necessary (in my humble opinion).

by jdub69 on Jul 5, 2009 1:09 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

as it was said before

it’s a different era of baseball. Teams are much more careful with the health and conditioning of their players. Teams protect their assets. Hence, the 5 man rotation, and giving catchers regular off days to keep their knees from wearing down.

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by Kallus on Jul 5, 2009 1:14 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

isn't a save automatically given

to a releiver that pitches 3 innings reguardless of the difference in score?

by VV A's fan on Jul 5, 2009 1:02 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

as often as he has save opportunities

he might as well be on a starter scuedule, once every 5 days. lol

by VV A's fan on Jul 5, 2009 12:53 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I like that he's being used in a relief ace notion

BUT the innings issue is inexcuseable. Especially since Wuertz and Ziggy are elite relievers AND the team is out of contention.

"You end up with a name like ‘Outman,’" he said last week. "What else are you going to do? You’re going to get people out, man." ~ Dallas Braden

Free Travis Buck.

by Blicks on Jul 5, 2009 12:55 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Choo's so hot

that he might have made up a 4-2 deficit with a two-run solo shot, I guess.

Geren starts getting me to defend him, and then he does weird stuff like that.

by bear88 on Jul 5, 2009 12:44 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Did I just hear

“Jerry Blevins — always a River Cat” on a commercial? Because I’m not sure that’s something that Blevins would really like to hear…

by whiteshoes40 on Jul 5, 2009 12:42 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Commercial FAIL.

Don’t play “Always a Rivercat” commercial for a player who is CURRENTLY a Rivercat.

Nico: Okay. We have twelve hours to make a really big pickle.

by pam5981 on Jul 5, 2009 12:43 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I've never seen those ads.

But that entire campaign sounds wrong.

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by iglew on Jul 5, 2009 12:44 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

whaaa? oc

alaska A residing in northern Idaho.

by ak_A on Jul 5, 2009 12:44 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Insurance.

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by Rated-R Superstar on Jul 5, 2009 12:44 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Shhhhhhhhh!!

Nico: Okay. We have twelve hours to make a really big pickle.

by pam5981 on Jul 5, 2009 12:45 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Perez can’t lower his 8.88 ERA now.

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by Rated-R Superstar on Jul 5, 2009 12:46 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

just regained consciousness

saw 7IP/2ER for Gio, and fainted

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by Kallus on Jul 5, 2009 12:48 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

He pitched six innings.

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by Rated-R Superstar on Jul 5, 2009 12:52 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

We won't overtake the Royals in the overall standings though.

They’re beating the White Sox and knocked the starter out after like 4 innings.

 See Chicago, this is why you don’t trade your pitching depth..

Not like that really matters.

"You end up with a name like ‘Outman,’" he said last week. "What else are you going to do? You’re going to get people out, man." ~ Dallas Braden

Free Travis Buck.

by Blicks on Jul 5, 2009 12:50 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Sippin' on a MG

First time I’ve heard it while lying in bed. Not as good as in a chair, but still better than standing.

"Go ahead and overachieve, you scrappy Brett-Favre-colored walk-takers." —Rev Halofan

by iglew on Jul 5, 2009 12:50 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

okay one out

Roy Steele is the voice of God

by cuppingmaster on Jul 5, 2009 12:53 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

I love Ken Ko.

He just called Bailey “nonpareil”. Awesome.

"Go ahead and overachieve, you scrappy Brett-Favre-colored walk-takers." —Rev Halofan

by iglew on Jul 5, 2009 12:54 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Interleague Play: Celebrating Thirteen Seasons of Suck

by GreenNGoldSooner on Jul 5, 2009 12:56 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Tuning back in to this game...

…after missing most of it.

Hopefully there’s not much of it left….

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by GreenNGoldSooner on Jul 5, 2009 12:55 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Hey now, get your game on.

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by iglew on Jul 5, 2009 12:56 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

that's that.

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by ak_A on Jul 5, 2009 12:58 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Hey Croz

Open your eyes next time.

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by Flashfire on Jul 5, 2009 12:58 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Powell is catching?

Did Suzuki come out, or is he DH today?

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by iglew on Jul 5, 2009 12:58 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

he hit the ball wicked haaaahd

but the croz saves the day

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by cuppingmaster on Jul 5, 2009 12:58 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Cap'n?

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by iglew on Jul 5, 2009 12:59 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yay!

Fireworks should be seen and not heard.

"Go ahead and overachieve, you scrappy Brett-Favre-colored walk-takers." —Rev Halofan

by iglew on Jul 5, 2009 12:59 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

So Bailey is our AS Rep?

I really think it should have been Suzuki!

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by GreenNGoldSooner on Jul 5, 2009 1:00 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

They needed Bailey in case the AL team

requires a four-out save.

"Go ahead and overachieve, you scrappy Brett-Favre-colored walk-takers." —Rev Halofan

by iglew on Jul 5, 2009 1:01 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

it was mentioned that maddon wanted more pitchers and only 2 catchers

can’t say i blame him, but suzuki is a snub for sure

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by cuppingmaster on Jul 5, 2009 1:01 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

No more of a snub than any of the guys

on the vote list. Doesn’t Peña lead the league in HRs?

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by iglew on Jul 5, 2009 1:02 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

yes and wow you're right

Roy Steele is the voice of God

by cuppingmaster on Jul 5, 2009 1:04 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah but they're deserving though.

Zobrist and Bartlett have put up great seasons. Longoria is awesome.

"You end up with a name like ‘Outman,’" he said last week. "What else are you going to do? You’re going to get people out, man." ~ Dallas Braden

Free Travis Buck.

by Blicks on Jul 5, 2009 1:10 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Aw, Bailey.

You’re cute.

Nico: Okay. We have twelve hours to make a really big pickle.

by pam5981 on Jul 5, 2009 1:01 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

I liked when he said:

“That’s what I tell all the young guys”

Nico: Okay. We have twelve hours to make a really big pickle.

by pam5981 on Jul 5, 2009 1:04 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Is there video of this interview anywhere?

"You end up with a name like ‘Outman,’" he said last week. "What else are you going to do? You’re going to get people out, man." ~ Dallas Braden

Free Travis Buck.

by Blicks on Jul 5, 2009 1:05 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

i laughed at that one

he seems like a nice kid. good for you, andrew! have fun at your first ASG.

by Deborah51 on Jul 5, 2009 1:05 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

And congrats to Bailey on being named to the All*Star team

Good interview. Kid seems genuinely thrilled

I'm a happy seal

by SwisherThresher on Jul 5, 2009 1:02 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

He should win ROY

Dare I say it.

"You end up with a name like ‘Outman,’" he said last week. "What else are you going to do? You’re going to get people out, man." ~ Dallas Braden

Free Travis Buck.

by Blicks on Jul 5, 2009 1:03 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

what exactly happens?

they set a season records for homeruns? they become the first 40-40 guy in MLB history? Or becoming a very good closer? By “them”, don’t you mean “Crosby”

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by Kallus on Jul 5, 2009 1:07 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

not a Street fan?

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by Kallus on Jul 5, 2009 1:17 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Ben Greive.

This is just unacceptable. People are paying good money to go to the ball park. -Ken Korach

by Leopold Bloom on Jul 5, 2009 1:19 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

forgot about him

ok, so yes, I mean Crosby. lol

by VV A's fan on Jul 5, 2009 1:21 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Looking at the players that have won that award...

The first 2 were Canseco and McGuire, Juiced?
Walt Weiss, stud
Ben Grieve….who?
Bobby Crosby, don’t get me started
Huston Street, inconsistant (but when he’s on he’s lights out)

by VV A's fan on Jul 5, 2009 1:24 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

So we're 4 and 2, as far as having good to great careers

I’ll take those odds. And besides, the award is overrated anyways. It doesn’t guarantee any success, nor does it jinx or curse a player to have a bad career. I’m with you on Croz, though. And I completely forgot that Grieve won it, or rather, I’d forgotten about Grieve completely.

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by Kallus on Jul 5, 2009 1:27 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Vida didn't win the ROY, though

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by Kallus on Jul 5, 2009 1:49 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Wow, I never realized that?

He was MVP as a rookie but not rookie of the year.

by jdub69 on Jul 5, 2009 5:38 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

In other words, he was the most valuable player

in the entire league but he wasn’t the best rookie. So who was this rookie, who was better than Vida yet somehow less valuable?

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by Nico on Jul 5, 2009 6:28 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I just looked it up.

Chris Chambliss, Cleveland Indians

by jdub69 on Jul 5, 2009 10:54 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Now my interest has truly been piqued.

The maximum number of IP to be considered a rookie was changed in 1971, from 45 to 50. However, this would not have precluded Vida from winning the award because he pitched 42.0 in ‘69 and 38.2 in ’70. There is also an exception for MLB service time, which was also changed in ’71. My only guess is that Vida’s 2 previous seasons surpassed this mark. I can’t find specific data for how many days he spent on the active roster back then. I can think of no other reason.

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by Kallus on Jul 5, 2009 10:56 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

RECAP

Here.

I'm here to talk about the past.

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