Dogs and cats living together, A's win with 21 hits, mass hysteria!
by Flashfire on Jul 28, 2009 8:50 PM PDT
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PrintWhere do you start with a game like this? The best way may just be with some quick hits. Speaking of which, the A's had a lot of those tonight and not a single one left the yard. It was the first time the A's had 20 or more hits in Fenway Park since 1969, something nobody would have predicted seeing tonight's lineup card.
Let's look at a few key moments.
* After taking an early 2-0 lead, Vin Mazzaro couldn't hold it as he allowed 5 runs in the third, hurt in large part by a couple very questionable calls by plate ump Adrian Johnson. This led to Bob Geren being ejected and the Oakland bats would awaken late in the game, just in time.
* Down 7-4 going to the ninth, the comeback started with two away as Tommy Everidge's first hit in the bigs, a booming double off the very tippy-top of the Green Monster, plated Jack Cust, who had taken second on defensive indifference after a walk. That seemed small at the time but it proved otherwise.
* With the count 0-2, Mark Ellis hit a slow grounder that Nick Green threw away. Everidge scored and Ellis went to second. It was a very bad mistake because Ellis was safe all the way and they could have kept runners at the corners.
* After Ellis stole third, Rajai Davis hit another slow grounder that Green once again threw away, tying the game and blowing the save for Jonathan Papelbon.
* In the eleventh Ellis doubled with two away, his fourth hit of the night. Davis came through with a full count single through the hole to right. After Davis swiped second Adam Kennedy's fifth hit of the night (and third RBI) plated Davis.
* The two run lead was big as Andrew Bailey allowed back-to-back singles to open the bottom half of the inning. A sacrifice bunt followed by a grounder brought the score to 9-8 and Bailey got Dustin Pedroia to fly out to left for the win.
This was one of those games where it looked like the A's are going to tease us again only to come up short - and by all accounts they should have; thanks Nick Green - so pulling it out in Boston after trailing 6-2 could be a big confidence builder for these guys. They played very well overall and came through in the clutch numerous times.
After not allowing a run since the All-Star Break, Boston's bullpen coughed up seven runs, six earned. On the postgame show they said this is also the first time the A's have come back from a three-run deficit in the ninth in Fenway since 1930. It's not always going to go like this but when it does it sure is fun to watch. Yes, especially when it happens in Boston.
Oh, I'd like to thank the A's for giving me a fun one to recap.
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I don't know what's more surprising
Bob Geren showing some sense of a pulse, or the A’s coming back in the 9th for once.
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2-47 record after trailing in the 8th inning! Woot!
"Twenty minutes," says Jack Sr. "Thank god for Billy Beane."
"Any fan that wants us to do that is going to be disappointed because that just isn’t us." - Wolff
"Joe Morgan's going to think Beane wrote the movie too..." -whitshoes40
"What am I going to do, seriously? Maybe be a bouncer at strip joints. That's about all I'm qualified to do." -Giambi
by ST on Jul 28, 2009 8:58 PM PDT up reply actions
In a 3-game sweep at Fenway
the A’s outscored the Sox 38-13, including 21-7 in the middle game (they had 25 hits).
Reggie homered once on Friday, twice on Saturday, and once more on Sunday. In 14 at-bats, he had 9 hits (4 HR’s, 2 doubles, 3 singles), with 6 runs scored, and 15 RBI’s (10 on Saturday alone).
He was a pretty good player, that Jackson.
I'm here to talk about the past.
I had the green sheet from the Chron giving details of the 21-7 game. I kept reading and re-reading it.
The numbers in the boxscore were so overwhelming, even to my 9 year old mind. In pre-internet times, I lived for moments like that. I loved the green sports section. Wish I still had that one.
JJ Martin
The best way to catch a knuckleball is to wait until the ball stops rolling and then pick it up. ~Bob Uecker
Even if he didn't give Rickey an autograph
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He got a pen with his name on it. What more do you want?
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by Rated-R Superstar on Jul 28, 2009 9:32 PM PDT up reply actions
It’s because you’re better than Rickey Henderson.
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by Rated-R Superstar on Jul 28, 2009 9:40 PM PDT up reply actions
That game was 17 years before I was born.
Dating girls is like starting pitching depth, you think you have a good full rotation, even too many starters, then in an instant as soon as you trade your depth away injuries decimate your rotation and you are forced to start Sidney Ponson.
by designatedforassignment on Jul 28, 2009 9:45 PM PDT up reply actions
That game was 22 years before I was born.
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by Rated-R Superstar on Jul 28, 2009 9:47 PM PDT up reply actions
That game was 22 years after Jamie Moyer was born
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
He’s older than my mommy.
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by Rated-R Superstar on Jul 28, 2009 9:49 PM PDT up reply actions
Wow, now THAT's scary.
Oh, and DFA is only 22? Didn’t know that.
"Go ahead and overachieve, you scrappy Brett-Favre-colored walk-takers." —Rev Halofan
23
Dating girls is like starting pitching depth, you think you have a good full rotation, even too many starters, then in an instant as soon as you trade your depth away injuries decimate your rotation and you are forced to start Sidney Ponson.
by designatedforassignment on Jul 28, 2009 9:51 PM PDT up reply actions
How old did you think I was.
Dating girls is like starting pitching depth, you think you have a good full rotation, even too many starters, then in an instant as soon as you trade your depth away injuries decimate your rotation and you are forced to start Sidney Ponson.
by designatedforassignment on Jul 28, 2009 9:51 PM PDT up reply actions
I always think that how people are percieved on the internet is interesting.
Dating girls is like starting pitching depth, you think you have a good full rotation, even too many starters, then in an instant as soon as you trade your depth away injuries decimate your rotation and you are forced to start Sidney Ponson.
by designatedforassignment on Jul 28, 2009 9:57 PM PDT up reply actions
Yeah.
And I really try no to assume, but in your case, definitely had you for older (you may read that as wiser).
I'm here to talk about the past.
I think everybody does... its just natural
There was a thread on minor league ball about players that were though of as being a different race than they are. I was surprised how many I had wrong. Hopefully, the political org that have interviewed with 4 times and be told 4 times that they will hire me will actually give me a job so I can figure out if I can come to AN day. Otherwise Im probably back to Oregon or to NY to find work and going to miss it.
Dating girls is like starting pitching depth, you think you have a good full rotation, even too many starters, then in an instant as soon as you trade your depth away injuries decimate your rotation and you are forced to start Sidney Ponson.
by designatedforassignment on Jul 28, 2009 10:04 PM PDT up reply actions
Yeah, it's weird when people meet me and I'm not a complete gentleman like I am online.
"I’m Joey Devine, I’m what Joba Chamberlain would be if he was good and nobody had ever heard of him."
I'll admit it, the first time
you grabbed my ass, I was shocked. I got used to it by the third time though.
I'm here to talk about the past.
Consistency is key.
"I’m Joey Devine, I’m what Joba Chamberlain would be if he was good and nobody had ever heard of him."
And technique
There’s also something to be said for muscle memory.
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I would have guessed about 28 or 29.
"Go ahead and overachieve, you scrappy Brett-Favre-colored walk-takers." —Rev Halofan
You sure as hell
are a smart kid. Wish mine were more like you……Oh wait, they’re your age and still have me paying all their bills. Maybe they’re smarter than you.
"You may glory in a team triumphant, but you fall in love with a team in defeat."--The Boys of Summer
LOL don't worry Im unemployed and living at home
but I did get a US Senator elected in 2008.
Dating girls is like starting pitching depth, you think you have a good full rotation, even too many starters, then in an instant as soon as you trade your depth away injuries decimate your rotation and you are forced to start Sidney Ponson.
by designatedforassignment on Jul 28, 2009 9:56 PM PDT up reply actions
Oddly enough....
this comment does make me feel better.
But U.S. Senators are all the same I don’t know why one of them would fuck it up by becoming POTUS.
"You may glory in a team triumphant, but you fall in love with a team in defeat."--The Boys of Summer
I knew mine for two years before he decided to run and I started on his campaign
One of the humblest and most competent people I have ever met.
Dating girls is like starting pitching depth, you think you have a good full rotation, even too many starters, then in an instant as soon as you trade your depth away injuries decimate your rotation and you are forced to start Sidney Ponson.
by designatedforassignment on Jul 28, 2009 10:05 PM PDT up reply actions
Oh and thanks for the compliment.
Dating girls is like starting pitching depth, you think you have a good full rotation, even too many starters, then in an instant as soon as you trade your depth away injuries decimate your rotation and you are forced to start Sidney Ponson.
by designatedforassignment on Jul 28, 2009 9:57 PM PDT up reply actions
It's spelled "mummy" and I had no idea you were Egyptian.
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
I can be Egyptian when I feel like it.
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by Rated-R Superstar on Jul 28, 2009 9:52 PM PDT up reply actions
R-Star has no clue what you're talking about.
Nico: Okay. We have twelve hours to make a really big pickle.
Precisely.
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by Rated-R Superstar on Jul 28, 2009 10:04 PM PDT up reply actions
Then you remind me of O-Cab
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
I am Bobby Crosby, though.
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by Rated-R Superstar on Jul 28, 2009 9:55 PM PDT up reply actions
Because I think its super cool
The history of baseball is what makes it the greatest of all the sports. I think its way cool that you were actually there. I mean the earliest thing I can remember is sitting on my dads lap watching Eck close out an A’s game. I slept through the 89 quake because my mom had to put me down so I wouldn’t fall asleep during the series. This is what the heart of baseball is.
Dating girls is like starting pitching depth, you think you have a good full rotation, even too many starters, then in an instant as soon as you trade your depth away injuries decimate your rotation and you are forced to start Sidney Ponson.
by designatedforassignment on Jul 28, 2009 9:54 PM PDT up reply actions
I'd just sat down as well
I was watching highlights of Game 2 with some cinnamon toast when the quake hit. I was 12 at the time.
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LOL! Am I the only one who got this ?????
nice one 67M!
Zeigler to Geren…."A-Rod? He’s my bitch." -alox
I just got it.
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by Rated-R Superstar on Jul 28, 2009 10:01 PM PDT up reply actions
I read that as "tickler"
"I’m Joey Devine, I’m what Joba Chamberlain would be if he was good and nobody had ever heard of him."
WOW I cant believe I missed that.
Dating girls is like starting pitching depth, you think you have a good full rotation, even too many starters, then in an instant as soon as you trade your depth away injuries decimate your rotation and you are forced to start Sidney Ponson.
by designatedforassignment on Jul 28, 2009 10:06 PM PDT up reply actions
That’s what she said.
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by Rated-R Superstar on Jul 28, 2009 10:00 PM PDT up reply actions
Caption
I’m sick of sniffing my finger, so I thought I’d try for your breath
"If Vin Mazzaro comes anywhere near me with shaving cream he’s gonna be coming away with a bloody stump" – Dallas Braden
Caption
Oakland Manager Bob Geren describes a fish he once caught that was “this big” as the umpire ejects him from the game.
you stole my idea!
ken korach's voice is like peanut butter on velvet, not joe buck's.
Love the ghostbusters reference
Love geren getting tossed too. It’s great to see our manager standing up for a young pitcher not getting the calls.
"That team runs on Bobby Crosby being healthy. This guy is amazing. If he's healthy, they could go a long way. He's the key"
-Johnny Damon
by jnm on Jul 28, 2009 8:54 PM PDT via mobile reply actions
I just watched the Blu-Ray version of Ghostbusters the other night
Ahh, what a classic. Still loving the video game as well.
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I just got that blu-ray too.
I got the game too but haven’t played yet. Still hooked on MLB the show. In my season Barton and buck play everyday and our record is 33-15.
"That team runs on Bobby Crosby being healthy. This guy is amazing. If he's healthy, they could go a long way. He's the key"
-Johnny Damon
by jnm on Jul 28, 2009 8:57 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
the red sox announcers agreed
They couldnt’ believe the calls Vin wasn’t getting
ECK
Eck was definitely on Mazzaro’s side… I’m sure Eckersley will get some hate mail from some Red Sox fans for backing the opposing team. Well done, Eck.
by Colorado Fan on Jul 28, 2009 11:49 PM PDT up reply actions
Eck
While it was certainly obvious that he is on the Red Sox payroll it was nice to hear him stick up for the A’s at certain points in the game. His defense of Mazzaro and praise of Geren (for getting ejected) was awesome.
[b]More Rajai Davis & less mount Davis[/b]
Does Rajai Davis know Al Davis?
by Athletics fan and runner on Jul 29, 2009 4:33 AM PDT up reply actions
And even better to see him out of our dugout and off our bench!
A real win-win situation!
There is no "i" in Teamocil. At least not where you'd think.
by GreenNGoldSooner on Jul 28, 2009 8:55 PM PDT up reply actions
Nick Green had a long month tonight in the 9th
"If Vin Mazzaro comes anywhere near me with shaving cream he’s gonna be coming away with a bloody stump" – Dallas Braden
one mistake often begets another in sports
tough being human and playing for money…
"It is the mark of a truly intelligent person to be moved by statistics. " GB Shaw
by One won lost won on Jul 28, 2009 9:02 PM PDT up reply actions
Nick Green should worry about his starting SS job.
I wonder what upper management thought of those two errors today.
><
You think the Red Sux might be looking for a new SS?
Maybe a veteran on a hot streak? A proven winner? Gee, who has one they’re willing to part with? I’m sure Billy Beane has taken notice.
Green made a great case for Cabrera.
JJ Martin
The best way to catch a knuckleball is to wait until the ball stops rolling and then pick it up. ~Bob Uecker
What a way to lead into Anderson.....
pitching tomorrow, and after the way he pitched last outing at Fenway, we may just get a split in this series.
S&BP > Mile High Mules
Ghostbusters!
There’s something weird, in your neighborhood!
Loving the comeback, the hits, and the miserable pout/ sneer on Papelbon’s face in the dugout! :)
Sigh
It’s too bad this year’s team doesn’t have any players like XX, Cochrane, or Al Simmons.
"If Vin Mazzaro comes anywhere near me with shaving cream he’s gonna be coming away with a bloody stump" – Dallas Braden
I think they're all a little past their prime.
But they could probably make this team.
Beware Zombie Jimmie Foxx!
There is no "i" in Teamocil. At least not where you'd think.
by GreenNGoldSooner on Jul 28, 2009 9:24 PM PDT up reply actions
/cocks shotgun
"I’m Joey Devine, I’m what Joba Chamberlain would be if he was good and nobody had ever heard of him."
I'd let him eat my brains, if he'd give me his autograph first
"If Vin Mazzaro comes anywhere near me with shaving cream he’s gonna be coming away with a bloody stump" – Dallas Braden
Foxx
Seriously, it is telling that his nickname was “the beast” and he was only 6 foot and 195 pounds. that is a middle infielder in modern baseball. Players are a lot bigger now. People are a lot bigget now. Heck, I am a freaking marathon runner and I am almost that size.
[b]More Rajai Davis & less mount Davis[/b]
Does Rajai Davis know Al Davis?
by Athletics fan and runner on Jul 29, 2009 4:36 AM PDT up reply actions
What we can learn from tonight and the game in 1930.
If coming back from 3+ runs down, score them in the ninth inning.
ken korach's voice is like peanut butter on velvet, not joe buck's.
When I saw the lineup for tonight
I’m pretty sure I posted something like" that Bob Geren he’s a genius batting Reverse Ramon third, what a great batting order I’ll bet they bang out 20+ hits."
Now it’s possible my memory is wrong on this but hey that post was like 5 hours ago and I’m too lazy to look it up.
Actually I think I posted that.
"I’m Joey Devine, I’m what Joba Chamberlain would be if he was good and nobody had ever heard of him."
nice win A's!
I love comebacks.
You have to include smiley faces - Poppy
;- ) :- ) :-O : -> : -] : -}
I loved this game.
"Bobby Crosby at third is a bit of an adventure. And not like, here’s some hidden treasure, what fun. More like, gah! poison ants!" --alea iacta est
I love the way the A's played:
Run, scrap, create, grind, win.
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
Agreed.
Just a load of fun!
There is no "i" in Teamocil. At least not where you'd think.
by GreenNGoldSooner on Jul 28, 2009 9:25 PM PDT up reply actions
Almost like the teams of yesteryear.
or within the last six.
ken korach's voice is like peanut butter on velvet, not joe buck's.
It was a great game!
I watched it from the seventh inning on and it was great.
The A’s obviously won because I left the open thread just before the ninth.
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by Rated-R Superstar on Jul 28, 2009 9:24 PM PDT reply actions
agreed.
also, don’t go read back. OAH got feisty.
"I’m Joey Devine, I’m what Joba Chamberlain would be if he was good and nobody had ever heard of him."
oh you know what i meant
"I’m Joey Devine, I’m what Joba Chamberlain would be if he was good and nobody had ever heard of him."
I will now go back and read.
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by Rated-R Superstar on Jul 28, 2009 9:27 PM PDT up reply actions
I too left
Reading.
"I feel like we are sending Danny Haren for Mulder all over again." - Cardinal fan on the Matt Holliday trade
"But at this time of year, two plus two doesn't always add up to eight. Sometimes, it equals four." - Geoff Baker, Mariners beat writer.
I sadly had to leave.
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by Rated-R Superstar on Jul 28, 2009 9:28 PM PDT up reply actions
me, too
My computer was threatening to melt.
"Go ahead and overachieve, you scrappy Brett-Favre-colored walk-takers." —Rev Halofan
My mom was threatening to kill me.
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by Rated-R Superstar on Jul 28, 2009 9:55 PM PDT up reply actions
I think I was in more danger than you were.
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by Rated-R Superstar on Jul 28, 2009 9:57 PM PDT up reply actions
well
she was going to light my face on fire first and then hold it to the computer
I'm here to talk about the past.
Okay, you win.
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by Rated-R Superstar on Jul 28, 2009 10:02 PM PDT up reply actions
My computer was threatening to melt my mom
Oh my.
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Does Rajai Davis know Al Davis?
by Athletics fan and runner on Jul 29, 2009 4:38 AM PDT up reply actions
My mom can kick your computer's ass!
"Flea Markets aren't just for blind dates anymore!"- The Reverend Billy Lard
by Gaijin_Suketto on Jul 29, 2009 7:49 AM PDT up reply actions
If she's younger than Jamie Moyer
then she is at most only three years older than me.
"Go ahead and overachieve, you scrappy Brett-Favre-colored walk-takers." —Rev Halofan
Don’t get used to it.
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by Rated-R Superstar on Jul 28, 2009 9:34 PM PDT up reply actions
Oh Joy!
I am in Boston right now. Didn’t get here in time to get to Fenway but I’m definitely here in time to see dozens of miserable Red Sox fans returning to my hotel and that is SERIOUSLY fun :-)
START A FIGHT
"I’m Joey Devine, I’m what Joba Chamberlain would be if he was good and nobody had ever heard of him."
That's pretty easy to do in Boston after a Red Sox loss.
Though back when I lived up there it was long before the recent bout of Red Sox winning, so you could usually get them going just by mentioning Buckner.
There is no "i" in Teamocil. At least not where you'd think.
by GreenNGoldSooner on Jul 28, 2009 9:30 PM PDT up reply actions
I tried....
…. but obviously “HA HA HA you lost to US and Papelbon is a pussy” was not enough to get them going
The Key to the game
Geren getting tossed because after that the A’s did get the proper strike zone. Before the A’s pitcher was getting screwed. Thak you geren for getting ticked. many other games I felt he didn’t stand up for the team but tonight he did.
One that I think will get over looked,
is the relay to get Bay at home. Great throw by O-Cab, well played by Swoony, and why would you try to score Bay from first? seems idiotic to me, unless Bay has speed that I do not know about.
ken korach's voice is like peanut butter on velvet, not joe buck's.
That's a really good point -- with nobody out
that was not a good base-coaching decision, and a terrific relay by O-Cab.
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
eck
Eckersley loved that play. It was pretty important.
[b]More Rajai Davis & less mount Davis[/b]
Does Rajai Davis know Al Davis?
by Athletics fan and runner on Jul 29, 2009 4:39 AM PDT up reply actions
Nick Green's glorious 9th inning...
…may finally compel Theo Epstein to call Billy up and brew up a deal. Theo has gotta realize the Sux aren’t winning anything with Green at SS. Here’s how we hope the dialogue will go:
Theo: Hey, Billy, how’s it going…we could use a shortstop.
Billy: Well, for Lester, Pedroia, Buchholz, and Ellsbury, I can send you a really good one in OCab…
Theo: WTF? That’s a four-for-one, you’re asking a little much…
Billy: Well, then, I can send you Crosby…he’s a SS…then it’s only 3-for1, and I’ll even let you pick which 3 in that group….
Theo: I don’t know, Billy…
Billy: Could I put you on hold for a minute, Theo? The Twins are on the other line…
Theo: OK, Billy, OK! But I’ll only throw in $5mil…
"you must be kicking yourself in the head now"
said in the best Russian accent.
ken korach's voice is like peanut butter on velvet, not joe buck's.
Great movie
Dating girls is like starting pitching depth, you think you have a good full rotation, even too many starters, then in an instant as soon as you trade your depth away injuries decimate your rotation and you are forced to start Sidney Ponson.
by designatedforassignment on Jul 28, 2009 10:17 PM PDT up reply actions
One of my all time favorites. I must have watched it at least a couple dozen times already...
And one of JM’s best performance, I might add.
Zeigler to Geren…."A-Rod? He’s my bitch." -alox
one of the best poker movies of all time
It is right up there with the cincinnati kid
PREPAREDNESS_Because those goddamn zombies aren’t going to kill themselves
:: Plays Gary Radnich sound byte. ::
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by Rated-R Superstar on Jul 28, 2009 10:33 PM PDT up reply actions
He use to judge HS speech and debate tournaments drunk when I was in HS
true story.
Dating girls is like starting pitching depth, you think you have a good full rotation, even too many starters, then in an instant as soon as you trade your depth away injuries decimate your rotation and you are forced to start Sidney Ponson.
by designatedforassignment on Jul 28, 2009 10:34 PM PDT up reply actions
Now I truly like the guy.
"You may glory in a team triumphant, but you fall in love with a team in defeat."--The Boys of Summer
No
I mean seriously who shows up drunk at their daughters HS speech tournament? Thats messed up.
Dating girls is like starting pitching depth, you think you have a good full rotation, even too many starters, then in an instant as soon as you trade your depth away injuries decimate your rotation and you are forced to start Sidney Ponson.
by designatedforassignment on Jul 28, 2009 10:40 PM PDT up reply actions
Obviously, you don't have daughters.
I have three of them. Check back with me in twenty years.
You’’ll be singing a different tune my young friend.
"You may glory in a team triumphant, but you fall in love with a team in defeat."--The Boys of Summer
Ok but you didn't work your ass off so that some drunk could judge you
Dating girls is like starting pitching depth, you think you have a good full rotation, even too many starters, then in an instant as soon as you trade your depth away injuries decimate your rotation and you are forced to start Sidney Ponson.
by designatedforassignment on Jul 28, 2009 10:43 PM PDT up reply actions
Who are you kidding?
That happens every single day of my life.
"You may glory in a team triumphant, but you fall in love with a team in defeat."--The Boys of Summer
your perpetually stuck as a 16 year old in a HS speech tournament?
NICE
Dating girls is like starting pitching depth, you think you have a good full rotation, even too many starters, then in an instant as soon as you trade your depth away injuries decimate your rotation and you are forced to start Sidney Ponson.
by designatedforassignment on Jul 28, 2009 10:45 PM PDT up reply actions
Worse.
By far, so much more worse.
Life can be a motherfucker. Don’t forget that. It’s important.
"You may glory in a team triumphant, but you fall in love with a team in defeat."--The Boys of Summer
Dude I work in politics....
Dating girls is like starting pitching depth, you think you have a good full rotation, even too many starters, then in an instant as soon as you trade your depth away injuries decimate your rotation and you are forced to start Sidney Ponson.
by designatedforassignment on Jul 28, 2009 10:48 PM PDT up reply actions
Don't we all?
"You may glory in a team triumphant, but you fall in love with a team in defeat."--The Boys of Summer
No.
Only people that have never worked in real politics say those kinds of things because if you ever have you would know that the rest of the world is nothing like it.
Dating girls is like starting pitching depth, you think you have a good full rotation, even too many starters, then in an instant as soon as you trade your depth away injuries decimate your rotation and you are forced to start Sidney Ponson.
by designatedforassignment on Jul 28, 2009 10:53 PM PDT up reply actions
And you know all about the rest of the world?
You are wise indeed my young Socrates.
"You may glory in a team triumphant, but you fall in love with a team in defeat."--The Boys of Summer
Well not all of it but the parts I have seen..
and I know enough people who have moved between worlds
Dating girls is like starting pitching depth, you think you have a good full rotation, even too many starters, then in an instant as soon as you trade your depth away injuries decimate your rotation and you are forced to start Sidney Ponson.
by designatedforassignment on Jul 28, 2009 11:13 PM PDT up reply actions
At least you were careful....
about your response! So it goes. Kurt Voneguat was wise…..at least to my muddled recollection.
So how does one move between worlds?
"You may glory in a team triumphant, but you fall in love with a team in defeat."--The Boys of Summer
you can't work the hours and burn out
you cant live with no money or job security and you burn out
you get a girl and you burn out
you decide that you want to have clean laundry besides when you leave work early to go buy more underwear and you burn out
you decide that volunteer pizza is giving you an ulcer and you burn out.
Then you get a job with health care vacation and only a 40 hour work week.
Dating girls is like starting pitching depth, you think you have a good full rotation, even too many starters, then in an instant as soon as you trade your depth away injuries decimate your rotation and you are forced to start Sidney Ponson.
by designatedforassignment on Jul 28, 2009 11:25 PM PDT up reply actions
motherfucker
m…o…t…h…e…r…f…u…c…k…e…r
motherfucker
PREPAREDNESS_Because those goddamn zombies aren’t going to kill themselves
You think that's fucked up?
I’ve had judges who have been blazed out of their minds, and start laughing their ass off when I make a joke during a speech. You also have judges who absolutely hate certain schools, so if you’re from one of the schools the judge hates you’re screwed.
Having a drunk judge is honestly not out of the ordinary, nor is it really that bad.
"I feel like we are sending Danny Haren for Mulder all over again." - Cardinal fan on the Matt Holliday trade
"But at this time of year, two plus two doesn't always add up to eight. Sometimes, it equals four." - Geoff Baker, Mariners beat writer.
My best judgment is when I'm inebriated
Every day is just a little worse than the previous, that means every day is the worst day of my life.
by shooting4life on Jul 29, 2009 9:27 AM PDT up reply actions
as a current debater
You offer inspiration. Did you judge Policy or LD? Those are the only ones I’d get drunk for…
"I feel like we are sending Danny Haren for Mulder all over again." - Cardinal fan on the Matt Holliday trade
"But at this time of year, two plus two doesn't always add up to eight. Sometimes, it equals four." - Geoff Baker, Mariners beat writer.
Ive judged Policy and Parli (which I did in college) but Im an extemper at heart
Dating girls is like starting pitching depth, you think you have a good full rotation, even too many starters, then in an instant as soon as you trade your depth away injuries decimate your rotation and you are forced to start Sidney Ponson.
by designatedforassignment on Jul 28, 2009 11:15 PM PDT up reply actions
I do extemp as my speech event, fun stuff
Especially when you make up sources, always fun.
I dabbled in policy, but srsly cards are overrated. Public Forum is made for me.
"I feel like we are sending Danny Haren for Mulder all over again." - Cardinal fan on the Matt Holliday trade
"But at this time of year, two plus two doesn't always add up to eight. Sometimes, it equals four." - Geoff Baker, Mariners beat writer.
Dude making up sources is bullshit.
Try parli when you get to college its fun.
Dating girls is like starting pitching depth, you think you have a good full rotation, even too many starters, then in an instant as soon as you trade your depth away injuries decimate your rotation and you are forced to start Sidney Ponson.
by designatedforassignment on Jul 28, 2009 11:36 PM PDT up reply actions
How many ANers are recovering debaters?
Seems like it’s a ton of us.
(L/D and Extemp in HS; Parli in college…reporting for duty!)
There is no "i" in Teamocil. At least not where you'd think.
by GreenNGoldSooner on Jul 28, 2009 11:42 PM PDT up reply actions
NO I'M NOT
"I’m Joey Devine, I’m what Joba Chamberlain would be if he was good and nobody had ever heard of him."
That isn't an argument.
It’s just contradiction!
There is no "i" in Teamocil. At least not where you'd think.
by GreenNGoldSooner on Jul 28, 2009 11:45 PM PDT up reply actions
no it's not
"I’m Joey Devine, I’m what Joba Chamberlain would be if he was good and nobody had ever heard of him."
Eww LD
I couldn’t handle it, way too random when it comes to theories and philosophies I couldn’t care less about.
PoFo though, not so much a debate form as pure bullshit condensed into 35 minutes. Simply awesome.
"I feel like we are sending Danny Haren for Mulder all over again." - Cardinal fan on the Matt Holliday trade
"But at this time of year, two plus two doesn't always add up to eight. Sometimes, it equals four." - Geoff Baker, Mariners beat writer.
Blecch.
Now I know why the trade threads so often piss me off. You guys are programmed to care more about out-bullshitting each other than about figuring out which side is actually right.
This is why I hate debate. It teaches all the wrong lessons.
"Go ahead and overachieve, you scrappy Brett-Favre-colored walk-takers." —Rev Halofan
+1,000,000
Lawyers suck. Juries suck. Judges suck…
…except for Mentok, the Mind Taker, of course!
"Flea Markets aren't just for blind dates anymore!"- The Reverend Billy Lard
by Gaijin_Suketto on Jul 29, 2009 7:54 AM PDT up reply actions
PT was
Which I think is why a lot of people didn’t get him.
Dating girls is like starting pitching depth, you think you have a good full rotation, even too many starters, then in an instant as soon as you trade your depth away injuries decimate your rotation and you are forced to start Sidney Ponson.
by designatedforassignment on Jul 29, 2009 12:20 AM PDT up reply actions
Oh I got him...
Which is why in the end, I grew to loathe him.
"You may glory in a team triumphant, but you fall in love with a team in defeat."--The Boys of Summer
Oh man, I hate debate so much
Could any academic activity possibly be more poisonous? It’s worse than boxing.
"Go ahead and overachieve, you scrappy Brett-Favre-colored walk-takers." —Rev Halofan
Nothing is better
Than crushing the hearts of TOC bid teams. Nothing.
The looks on their faces when you roll them is priceless.
"I feel like we are sending Danny Haren for Mulder all over again." - Cardinal fan on the Matt Holliday trade
"But at this time of year, two plus two doesn't always add up to eight. Sometimes, it equals four." - Geoff Baker, Mariners beat writer.
Victory at any cost!
This is the stuff that human endeavors are made for!
“What is good in life Conan?”
“Seeing your enemies crushed and driven before you, and hearing the lamentations of their women”
"You may glory in a team triumphant, but you fall in love with a team in defeat."--The Boys of Summer
Funnily enough
That’s the line that describes our mentality in debate.
Perfectly.
"I feel like we are sending Danny Haren for Mulder all over again." - Cardinal fan on the Matt Holliday trade
"But at this time of year, two plus two doesn't always add up to eight. Sometimes, it equals four." - Geoff Baker, Mariners beat writer.
Of course it is!
"You may glory in a team triumphant, but you fall in love with a team in defeat."--The Boys of Summer
Oh man, I hate all of you right now.
"Go ahead and overachieve, you scrappy Brett-Favre-colored walk-takers." —Rev Halofan
We can never hate you though iglew.
/pat
"I feel like we are sending Danny Haren for Mulder all over again." - Cardinal fan on the Matt Holliday trade
"But at this time of year, two plus two doesn't always add up to eight. Sometimes, it equals four." - Geoff Baker, Mariners beat writer.
Truth is profound!
I hate that shit. But there’s really no other game in town….is there?
"You may glory in a team triumphant, but you fall in love with a team in defeat."--The Boys of Summer
What's funny is talking about winning a debate.
meanwhile I’m getting all the debate chicks drunk.
"I’m Joey Devine, I’m what Joba Chamberlain would be if he was good and nobody had ever heard of him."
And the truly wise ones...
want to be drunk? And hear your stupid bullshit? And buy into it?
Dude…we so need to go bowling.
"You may glory in a team triumphant, but you fall in love with a team in defeat."--The Boys of Summer
amen brotha.
"I’m Joey Devine, I’m what Joba Chamberlain would be if he was good and nobody had ever heard of him."
mad props brah
"I feel like we are sending Danny Haren for Mulder all over again." - Cardinal fan on the Matt Holliday trade
"But at this time of year, two plus two doesn't always add up to eight. Sometimes, it equals four." - Geoff Baker, Mariners beat writer.
Nah, not that far.
I’m just dumb so I never bothered with debate.
"I’m Joey Devine, I’m what Joba Chamberlain would be if he was good and nobody had ever heard of him."
Mike V, you're dumb like I'm old.
It’s more AN persona than reality.
"Go ahead and overachieve, you scrappy Brett-Favre-colored walk-takers." —Rev Halofan
Eh, I'm pretty dumb.
"I’m Joey Devine, I’m what Joba Chamberlain would be if he was good and nobody had ever heard of him."
Eh, I'm pretty old.
"Go ahead and overachieve, you scrappy Brett-Favre-colored walk-takers." —Rev Halofan
Clearly you have never heard of GDS
Dating girls is like starting pitching depth, you think you have a good full rotation, even too many starters, then in an instant as soon as you trade your depth away injuries decimate your rotation and you are forced to start Sidney Ponson.
by designatedforassignment on Jul 29, 2009 12:17 AM PDT up reply actions
The thing thats funniest is you are very debate like in many of your responses
which is why despite the fact that we disagree often and I’m pretty sure I piss you off on occasion, you are one of my favorite posters here.
Dating girls is like starting pitching depth, you think you have a good full rotation, even too many starters, then in an instant as soon as you trade your depth away injuries decimate your rotation and you are forced to start Sidney Ponson.
by designatedforassignment on Jul 29, 2009 12:25 AM PDT up reply actions
Say more
Dating girls is like starting pitching depth, you think you have a good full rotation, even too many starters, then in an instant as soon as you trade your depth away injuries decimate your rotation and you are forced to start Sidney Ponson.
by designatedforassignment on Jul 28, 2009 11:37 PM PDT up reply actions
Honestly I think exactly the opposite I think every school should be required to teach debate
Everything I ever needed to know in HS or college I learned from debate. Many of my best friends in life are debaters. If our society treated arguments like they are treated in debate, we would be far better off.
Dating girls is like starting pitching depth, you think you have a good full rotation, even too many starters, then in an instant as soon as you trade your depth away injuries decimate your rotation and you are forced to start Sidney Ponson.
by designatedforassignment on Jul 29, 2009 12:23 AM PDT up reply actions
No it wouldn't.
HAH!
"I’m Joey Devine, I’m what Joba Chamberlain would be if he was good and nobody had ever heard of him."
What are your warrents?
Dating girls is like starting pitching depth, you think you have a good full rotation, even too many starters, then in an instant as soon as you trade your depth away injuries decimate your rotation and you are forced to start Sidney Ponson.
by designatedforassignment on Jul 29, 2009 12:26 AM PDT up reply actions
It was only a bench warrant
and it was cleared.
"I’m Joey Devine, I’m what Joba Chamberlain would be if he was good and nobody had ever heard of him."
Fuck warrants
I want to see some clash, GO.
"I feel like we are sending Danny Haren for Mulder all over again." - Cardinal fan on the Matt Holliday trade
"But at this time of year, two plus two doesn't always add up to eight. Sometimes, it equals four." - Geoff Baker, Mariners beat writer.
Everything you needed to know:
- Every disagreement is a competition.
- The purpose of arguing is to score points by impressing people who are listening.
- Which side you take in an argument is pre-assigned, whether you believe in the position or not.
- Once your opinion is chosen, you never change it.
- The only reason to listen to the other guy is figure out clever things to say back. That he might actually convince you is completely out of the question.
- If by some miracle you do realize the other guy is right and you’re wrong, you still stick with your position anyway, because if you don’t you’ll lose.
If you ask me our society does treat arguments like they are treated in debate, and that’s exactly why our society is so fucked up.
And by the way, “everything [you] need to know in HS or college” is not the same as everything you need to know in real life. High school and college are fucked-up bullshit, too.
"Go ahead and overachieve, you scrappy Brett-Favre-colored walk-takers." —Rev Halofan
+ a number too large to type
"Flea Markets aren't just for blind dates anymore!"- The Reverend Billy Lard
by Gaijin_Suketto on Jul 29, 2009 7:56 AM PDT up reply actions
That is a mischaracterization of debate
You talk about the lack of choice, but really debate is all about choice, and its most profound lessons that it teaches you is how to make strategic choice. In a debate if you try to win every argument you will lose. What debate teaches you is “round vision”, to see what is important and to strategically target that. If you don’t make choices in what you argue against you lose focus and lose the round.
The point of debate isn’t to score points, it is to learn. In round, yes the point is to be persuasive. I am not sure why learning how to read your audience (the judge) and make compelling arguments to that audience is a bad idea. Additionally, I think you place too much emphasis on the round and undervalue the broader activity. This applies to your last two points as well. Just because I make an argument against something in round doesn’t mean that I dismiss it from influencing my out of world view, or enhancing my learning. Additionally, if I hear a good argument in a round I am highly likely to research it to both find defenses to it and perhaps if its a good argument adapt for my own personal use later.
Your opinion in debate is never chosen. The side of the argument is. For example, I strongly believe that marriage should be legal between consenting adults of all genders and sexual orientations. If I am the negative and I am forced to argue the opposition to that I have so many options that don’t involve me disagreeing with the basic sentiment. For example I can argue that the states should individually make that decision, Congress should pass a law, or the Supreme Court should decide a case that legalizes marriage equality depending on what actor the affirmative uses. Those are all important things to debate and don’t require me to argue something I find to be against my morality. Furthermore, there are in round arguments that can be made to punish a team that doesn’t give its opposition fair ground on which to argue.
Finally on Kritiques, a type of meta arguement, you often get people to issue an apology or change their mind on an issue.
There are some downsides that debate engenders that I would acknowledge. First, debate conditions you to deal with other debater rather than the uninitiated, which when engaging the uninitiated tends to make them upset. Most non-debaters like the ability to believe something without it being questioned and having no evidence for it, which is a mindset that debaters loath and aren’t well equipped to deal with. Secondly, debate creates an incentive to make large claims to see if they go uncontested and then collapse down to the heart of your argument which unlike the over-claim that was just made, you can defend.
The Socratic Method which debate essentially is has been the pinnacle of learning for the last 2400 years. It teaches us that only by questioning ourselves and our beliefs can we find truth. When I go out and canvass for political candidates and causes, I find that no one has even bothered to think through their own opinions or they would realize that you can’t “have no problem with gays” and yet think they should be denied basic human rights at the same time, which is just one of millions of contradictory positions that people hold that mess up this world.
Dating girls is like starting pitching depth, you think you have a good full rotation, even too many starters, then in an instant as soon as you trade your depth away injuries decimate your rotation and you are forced to start Sidney Ponson.
by designatedforassignment on Jul 29, 2009 10:07 AM PDT up reply actions
Rally Socrates!
"Go ahead and overachieve, you scrappy Brett-Favre-colored walk-takers." —Rev Halofan
I remember learning about that guy in my sophomore year of high school.
The Ultimate Opportunist
by Rated-R Superstar on Jul 29, 2009 12:50 PM PDT up reply actions
He's the bane
of Western Civilization. Or the inspiration. Either way, some 2500 years later he’s still a pain in the ass to high school students everywhere.
"You may glory in a team triumphant, but you fall in love with a team in defeat."--The Boys of Summer
TL;DR
Yay! I win! <does victory dance>
"Go ahead and overachieve, you scrappy Brett-Favre-colored walk-takers." —Rev Halofan
TL;DR what is that?
Dating girls is like starting pitching depth, you think you have a good full rotation, even too many starters, then in an instant as soon as you trade your depth away injuries decimate your rotation and you are forced to start Sidney Ponson.
by designatedforassignment on Jul 29, 2009 11:19 AM PDT up reply actions
it's not funny if I have to explain it.
Try urban dictionary.
"Go ahead and overachieve, you scrappy Brett-Favre-colored walk-takers." —Rev Halofan
That makes me sad
Dating girls is like starting pitching depth, you think you have a good full rotation, even too many starters, then in an instant as soon as you trade your depth away injuries decimate your rotation and you are forced to start Sidney Ponson.
by designatedforassignment on Jul 29, 2009 11:33 AM PDT up reply actions
Dude, I'm just messing with you.
Of course I read it. I just didn’t feel a need to address anything point by point because I’m not into that whole debaters mentality.
You said your bit, I said mine. We each learned something.
To me, that’s a good result.
"Go ahead and overachieve, you scrappy Brett-Favre-colored walk-takers." —Rev Halofan
Hey, I've seen that scene.
That’s the one where Matt Damon plays poker, right? I saw about half the movie.
And by the way … hello? “best” Russian accent? Are you kidding? It’s a ridiculous caricature.
"Go ahead and overachieve, you scrappy Brett-Favre-colored walk-takers." —Rev Halofan
No way dude!
Teddy KGB was hardcore Russian mob, yo!
Malkovich is the man!
Zeigler to Geren…."A-Rod? He’s my bitch." -alox
Well, I admit, I've never known anyone
in the KGB or the mob, so maybe they talk differently, but I’ve known dozens of Russians, and none of them sound like that.
"Go ahead and overachieve, you scrappy Brett-Favre-colored walk-takers." —Rev Halofan
In other news, the Angels tied the game.
The Ultimate Opportunist
by Rated-R Superstar on Jul 28, 2009 9:35 PM PDT reply actions
It is because, like you said a few threads ago, I speak the truth.
The Ultimate Opportunist
by Rated-R Superstar on Jul 28, 2009 9:40 PM PDT up reply actions
That's just because you get sent to your room if you lie.
"I’m Joey Devine, I’m what Joba Chamberlain would be if he was good and nobody had ever heard of him."
That’s why I need a laptop. Then, I would never leave my room. Okay, I’d need a fridge, but then I’d really never leave my room.
The Ultimate Opportunist
by Rated-R Superstar on Jul 28, 2009 9:44 PM PDT up reply actions
Great way to get the chicks.
"I’m Joey Devine, I’m what Joba Chamberlain would be if he was good and nobody had ever heard of him."
What do you think school is for?
The Ultimate Opportunist
by Rated-R Superstar on Jul 28, 2009 9:46 PM PDT up reply actions
Drugs and booze.
"I’m Joey Devine, I’m what Joba Chamberlain would be if he was good and nobody had ever heard of him."
I had a 3.8 GPA in the first semester of last year and 4.0 GPA in the second semester of last year.
The Ultimate Opportunist
by Rated-R Superstar on Jul 28, 2009 9:48 PM PDT up reply actions
I think it helps me with college or something.
The Ultimate Opportunist
by Rated-R Superstar on Jul 28, 2009 9:49 PM PDT up reply actions
I plan to.
The Ultimate Opportunist
by Rated-R Superstar on Jul 28, 2009 9:51 PM PDT up reply actions
Why?
"I’m Joey Devine, I’m what Joba Chamberlain would be if he was good and nobody had ever heard of him."
It’s hot out here.
The Ultimate Opportunist
by Rated-R Superstar on Jul 28, 2009 9:54 PM PDT up reply actions
Well get the hell inside.
"I’m Joey Devine, I’m what Joba Chamberlain would be if he was good and nobody had ever heard of him."
That’s what she said.
The Ultimate Opportunist
by Rated-R Superstar on Jul 28, 2009 9:55 PM PDT up reply actions
there ya go.
"I’m Joey Devine, I’m what Joba Chamberlain would be if he was good and nobody had ever heard of him."
Which brings us back to
drugs and booze.
"Go ahead and overachieve, you scrappy Brett-Favre-colored walk-takers." —Rev Halofan
Doesn’t it always come back to that?
The Ultimate Opportunist
by Rated-R Superstar on Jul 28, 2009 9:59 PM PDT up reply actions
No.
For the truly stupid decisions…..you need women in your life.
"You may glory in a team triumphant, but you fall in love with a team in defeat."--The Boys of Summer
I do need a woman.
The Ultimate Opportunist
by Rated-R Superstar on Jul 28, 2009 10:05 PM PDT up reply actions
No. WOMEN.
It’s plural. No wonder you only got a 3.8
"I’m Joey Devine, I’m what Joba Chamberlain would be if he was good and nobody had ever heard of him."
I just want one.
The Ultimate Opportunist
by Rated-R Superstar on Jul 28, 2009 10:06 PM PDT up reply actions
No you don't.
Admit it.
"You may glory in a team triumphant, but you fall in love with a team in defeat."--The Boys of Summer
I truly only want one.
The Ultimate Opportunist
by Rated-R Superstar on Jul 28, 2009 10:09 PM PDT up reply actions
give it time
"I’m Joey Devine, I’m what Joba Chamberlain would be if he was good and nobody had ever heard of him."
I really, really, really only want one.
The Ultimate Opportunist
by Rated-R Superstar on Jul 28, 2009 10:09 PM PDT up reply actions
One at a time?
Hell no…if you can talk them into it.
"You may glory in a team triumphant, but you fall in love with a team in defeat."--The Boys of Summer
don't go to a small college
you run through all the attractive ones in your freshman year.
1800 kids at my school
900 girls
450 girls that are physically attractive enough to date (50%)
90 girls that are also mentally attractive enough to date (20%)
18 the number of girls that find me physically/mentally attractive enough to date (20%)
Don’t let 18 be the total number of girls you can date at your college because you’ll make out with all of them before week two of your sophomore year and thats bad for the next 3 years.
Dating girls is like starting pitching depth, you think you have a good full rotation, even too many starters, then in an instant as soon as you trade your depth away injuries decimate your rotation and you are forced to start Sidney Ponson.
by designatedforassignment on Jul 28, 2009 10:16 PM PDT up reply actions
Just go to Arizona State.
"I’m Joey Devine, I’m what Joba Chamberlain would be if he was good and nobody had ever heard of him."
I went to Bosie St.
I would highly recommend it
PREPAREDNESS_Because those goddamn zombies aren’t going to kill themselves
BLUE FOOTBALL
"I’m Joey Devine, I’m what Joba Chamberlain would be if he was good and nobody had ever heard of him."
ESPN always says, “Don’t adjust your television sets.”
The Ultimate Opportunist
by Rated-R Superstar on Jul 28, 2009 10:40 PM PDT up reply actions
You're a lying mofo.
Your problem is easy to solve. You had 450 that qualified as attractive enough? You need further research to determine if you initial conclusions were flawed. That alone should take you well into your senior year.
"You may glory in a team triumphant, but you fall in love with a team in defeat."--The Boys of Summer
You don't think finding 1 out of 2 girls fits your fancy is enough?
Dating girls is like starting pitching depth, you think you have a good full rotation, even too many starters, then in an instant as soon as you trade your depth away injuries decimate your rotation and you are forced to start Sidney Ponson.
by designatedforassignment on Jul 28, 2009 10:26 PM PDT up reply actions
Hell no.
The best sex I’ve ever had was with women I truly couldn’t stand otherwise.
That and grudge sex.
"You may glory in a team triumphant, but you fall in love with a team in defeat."--The Boys of Summer
Yeah I was trying to put that into words too
Dating girls is like starting pitching depth, you think you have a good full rotation, even too many starters, then in an instant as soon as you trade your depth away injuries decimate your rotation and you are forced to start Sidney Ponson.
by designatedforassignment on Jul 28, 2009 10:31 PM PDT up reply actions
Acceptable level of attractiveness is a fluctuating number that directly correlatse to the quantity of alcohol consumed in a given time frame.
Every day is just a little worse than the previous, that means every day is the worst day of my life.
by shooting4life on Jul 29, 2009 9:42 AM PDT up reply actions
Life lessons
RRS are you paying attention
PREPAREDNESS_Because those goddamn zombies aren’t going to kill themselves
You'll learn.
Of course I am actually afraid to discuss women around alox. He somehow knows me.
I'm here to talk about the past.
Lexi is the only one I need.
The Ultimate Opportunist
by Rated-R Superstar on Jul 28, 2009 10:10 PM PDT up reply actions
I'm telling OAH.
"I’m Joey Devine, I’m what Joba Chamberlain would be if he was good and nobody had ever heard of him."
Fine, but I think she hates me.
The Ultimate Opportunist
by Rated-R Superstar on Jul 28, 2009 10:14 PM PDT up reply actions
Why?
Let it out. She’s not here.
"I’m Joey Devine, I’m what Joba Chamberlain would be if he was good and nobody had ever heard of him."
Eh, she just likes to tease me. It’s all good, though. I think it’s fun.
The Ultimate Opportunist
by Rated-R Superstar on Jul 28, 2009 10:16 PM PDT up reply actions
Dude.
Tease. That’s what they do.
Except that sometimes they don’t. I used to live for those times.
"You may glory in a team triumphant, but you fall in love with a team in defeat."--The Boys of Summer
+ some large unintellible number
"I’m Joey Devine, I’m what Joba Chamberlain would be if he was good and nobody had ever heard of him."
Thats actually usually a good sign
Dating girls is like starting pitching depth, you think you have a good full rotation, even too many starters, then in an instant as soon as you trade your depth away injuries decimate your rotation and you are forced to start Sidney Ponson.
by designatedforassignment on Jul 28, 2009 10:19 PM PDT up reply actions
That’s interesting.
The Ultimate Opportunist
by Rated-R Superstar on Jul 28, 2009 10:20 PM PDT up reply actions
News flash, dude.
OAH teases everyone.
Either that or she’s completely oblivious, and I don’t believe that.
"Go ahead and overachieve, you scrappy Brett-Favre-colored walk-takers." —Rev Halofan
And I love her for it Iglew.
And I think you do too!
"You may glory in a team triumphant, but you fall in love with a team in defeat."--The Boys of Summer
Embrace the tease!
"Go ahead and overachieve, you scrappy Brett-Favre-colored walk-takers." —Rev Halofan
That's not quite what I had in mind when I came up with that phrase.
Nico: Okay. We have twelve hours to make a really big pickle.
I'm a tease, too, Pam.
"Go ahead and overachieve, you scrappy Brett-Favre-colored walk-takers." —Rev Halofan
It still works.
"I’m Joey Devine, I’m what Joba Chamberlain would be if he was good and nobody had ever heard of him."
Only because....
I’ve done the same damn things. Except for the ex part. And I’m afraid. So very afraid.
"You may glory in a team triumphant, but you fall in love with a team in defeat."--The Boys of Summer
Don't let them bully you, R.
I also want only one. And I agree with you about smoking and drinking, too.
"Go ahead and overachieve, you scrappy Brett-Favre-colored walk-takers." —Rev Halofan
They do make the
whole life experience a helluva lot more interesting. Vexing, but interesting.
"You may glory in a team triumphant, but you fall in love with a team in defeat."--The Boys of Summer
Women make your life more interestin gtoo?
"I’m Joey Devine, I’m what Joba Chamberlain would be if he was good and nobody had ever heard of him."
Well,....
from your point of view….it would be more interesting for me if I could actually win on occasion.
But you gals have a way of making losing so much more….interesting?
"You may glory in a team triumphant, but you fall in love with a team in defeat."--The Boys of Summer
So true
hence my new sig line.
Dating girls is like starting pitching depth, you think you have a good full rotation, even too many starters, then in an instant as soon as you trade your depth away injuries decimate your rotation and you are forced to start Sidney Ponson.
by designatedforassignment on Jul 28, 2009 10:07 PM PDT up reply actions
LOL x2
"Bobby Crosby at third is a bit of an adventure. And not like, here’s some hidden treasure, what fun. More like, gah! poison ants!" --alea iacta est
by baseballgirl on Jul 28, 2009 11:43 PM PDT up reply actions
Ouch, rough start.
"I’m Joey Devine, I’m what Joba Chamberlain would be if he was good and nobody had ever heard of him."
And that's out of 10, right?
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
I was disappointed that I couldn’t get that “A” in CP U.S. history in the first semester, but I grabbed it in the second semester.
The Ultimate Opportunist
by Rated-R Superstar on Jul 28, 2009 9:51 PM PDT up reply actions
Oh, dude, I could have helped.
Abe’s last name is spelled Lincoln.
Lot of people miss that.
"I’m Joey Devine, I’m what Joba Chamberlain would be if he was good and nobody had ever heard of him."
Bogus
It’s been a while since I’ve seen that film referenced.
I'll say one thing
In a dismal season, I have managed to catch the good stuff in the team’s few memorable games.
Two questions:
1) Anywhere to hear radio highlights online?
2) What was the other 9th inning comeback win?
- I don’t know.
- I don’t know.
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by Rated-R Superstar on Jul 28, 2009 9:46 PM PDT up reply actions
Oh, I think it was against the Angels on the second game of the year.
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by Rated-R Superstar on Jul 28, 2009 9:48 PM PDT up reply actions
3rd game of the year -- and then there wasn't a 4th.
I like Cindi. A. She never pretends to know more than she does. B. She has unbridled enthusiasm for her "Hotties," and isn't afraid to show it. -IM4Oakgal
Of course,
I remember it all. I still know the finish.
I thought we were going to win the division after that game. I was so happy. I was also so very wrong.
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by Rated-R Superstar on Jul 28, 2009 10:07 PM PDT up reply actions
Is that like magically delicious?
PREPAREDNESS_Because those goddamn zombies aren’t going to kill themselves
I think
That was the only time the A’s ever teased us at the beginning of something, as opposed to the end.
"Their batters are patient to the point that it's annoying." -Ryan Franklin
by Helloooo 1st on Jul 28, 2009 10:10 PM PDT up reply actions
It was fun while it lasted.
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by Rated-R Superstar on Jul 28, 2009 10:30 PM PDT up reply actions
TWSS
"I’m Joey Devine, I’m what Joba Chamberlain would be if he was good and nobody had ever heard of him."
also WSS
before lighting a cigarette
"I’m Joey Devine, I’m what Joba Chamberlain would be if he was good and nobody had ever heard of him."
I don’t like girls that smoke or drink.
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by Rated-R Superstar on Jul 28, 2009 10:43 PM PDT up reply actions
You got that right
although if they are hot enough you can bend the rules
PREPAREDNESS_Because those goddamn zombies aren’t going to kill themselves
For the long-term, I couldn’t bend the rules.
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by Rated-R Superstar on Jul 28, 2009 10:45 PM PDT up reply actions
short term only
the keepers are well…keepers
PREPAREDNESS_Because those goddamn zombies aren’t going to kill themselves
Hey, what’s so funny?
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by Rated-R Superstar on Jul 28, 2009 10:48 PM PDT up reply actions
girls your age shouldn't be able to smoke or drink anyway
"Do I talk to myself? No, I just remind myself of what I'm trying to do. You know, I never answer myself so how can I be talking to myself?" - Rickey
by cuppingmaster on Jul 28, 2009 10:51 PM PDT up reply actions
I know, but some of them do.
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by Rated-R Superstar on Jul 28, 2009 10:55 PM PDT up reply actions
boo
by the time you’re in college, you’ll have quite the AN-themed education in dating the fairer sex
"Do I talk to myself? No, I just remind myself of what I'm trying to do. You know, I never answer myself so how can I be talking to myself?" - Rickey
by cuppingmaster on Jul 28, 2009 10:58 PM PDT up reply actions
I will probably still fail.
(I think I said this elsewhere.)
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by Rated-R Superstar on Jul 28, 2009 11:00 PM PDT up reply actions
Those ones you can avoid.
"I’m Joey Devine, I’m what Joba Chamberlain would be if he was good and nobody had ever heard of him."
Did you?
Me thinks not.
"You may glory in a team triumphant, but you fall in love with a team in defeat."--The Boys of Summer
You got me there.
"I’m Joey Devine, I’m what Joba Chamberlain would be if he was good and nobody had ever heard of him."
This is why....
I like you.
"You may glory in a team triumphant, but you fall in love with a team in defeat."--The Boys of Summer
we should get together and go bowling
"I’m Joey Devine, I’m what Joba Chamberlain would be if he was good and nobody had ever heard of him."
Excellent idea.
"You may glory in a team triumphant, but you fall in love with a team in defeat."--The Boys of Summer
May I go?
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by Rated-R Superstar on Jul 28, 2009 11:12 PM PDT up reply actions
I guess.
"I’m Joey Devine, I’m what Joba Chamberlain would be if he was good and nobody had ever heard of him."
IF you get let out of the house.
"I’m Joey Devine, I’m what Joba Chamberlain would be if he was good and nobody had ever heard of him."
I can if there’s daylight.
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by Rated-R Superstar on Jul 28, 2009 11:14 PM PDT up reply actions
The jig is up.
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by Rated-R Superstar on Jul 28, 2009 11:26 PM PDT up reply actions
No, but should I?
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by Rated-R Superstar on Jul 28, 2009 11:38 PM PDT up reply actions
Probably not
No telling where it’s been.
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Good, I did not want to.
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by Rated-R Superstar on Jul 28, 2009 11:49 PM PDT up reply actions
but you can sniff mikev's
PREPAREDNESS_Because those goddamn zombies aren’t going to kill themselves
That’s not a good idea.
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by Rated-R Superstar on Jul 29, 2009 12:50 PM PDT up reply actions
Oh, I wasn't laughing at you.
I was laughing at me.
Nico: Okay. We have twelve hours to make a really big pickle.
Oh, sure.
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by Rated-R Superstar on Jul 28, 2009 11:12 PM PDT up reply actions
Seriously.
I was just thinking about the crap I was doing at 17.
Nico: Okay. We have twelve hours to make a really big pickle.
If your 18 its a pretty good policy
I still don’t date smokers.
Dating girls is like starting pitching depth, you think you have a good full rotation, even too many starters, then in an instant as soon as you trade your depth away injuries decimate your rotation and you are forced to start Sidney Ponson.
by designatedforassignment on Jul 28, 2009 10:48 PM PDT up reply actions
Wait what?
We need to chat.
"I’m Joey Devine, I’m what Joba Chamberlain would be if he was good and nobody had ever heard of him."
maybe its because I wouldn't ever let someone smoke in my house
but I never got this cig after sex meme.
Dating girls is like starting pitching depth, you think you have a good full rotation, even too many starters, then in an instant as soon as you trade your depth away injuries decimate your rotation and you are forced to start Sidney Ponson.
by designatedforassignment on Jul 28, 2009 10:44 PM PDT up reply actions
Thank you Nick Green.
I was ready to give up on the game, but I was watching with skigurl and lynnzgal and they wouldn’t let me! Good job ladies.
Awesome game.
Nico: Okay. We have twelve hours to make a really big pickle.
Why couldn't I have watched this game instead of yesterday's.....
This is the type of game that is fun to watch. (Normally, I don’t mind pitching & defense, but with the A’s, I’d rather see offense right now.)
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
I am a little surprised that you knew the girls from The Secret Life of the American Teenager.
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by Rated-R Superstar on Jul 28, 2009 9:55 PM PDT up reply actions
Iglew is a smart man.
Did that picture help, though? I had to leave, sadly.
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by Rated-R Superstar on Jul 28, 2009 10:00 PM PDT up reply actions
I did not know Lady Gaga, though
"Go ahead and overachieve, you scrappy Brett-Favre-colored walk-takers." —Rev Halofan
You're not missing much.
Though OaktownPower vehemently disagrees with me.
Nico: Okay. We have twelve hours to make a really big pickle.
Hahaha I saw her in concert in 08 before she blew up
and I have a friend who served her at a clothing boutique and swears shes really a man.
Dating girls is like starting pitching depth, you think you have a good full rotation, even too many starters, then in an instant as soon as you trade your depth away injuries decimate your rotation and you are forced to start Sidney Ponson.
by designatedforassignment on Jul 28, 2009 10:08 PM PDT up reply actions
The one in the middle, for your information, is just a month older than I am. The other two are legal, though.
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by Rated-R Superstar on Jul 28, 2009 10:03 PM PDT up reply actions
Yeah, that’s why I told you.
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by Rated-R Superstar on Jul 28, 2009 10:04 PM PDT up reply actions
You've mentioned both shows, and someone else
guessed Degrassi and was wrong.
(Besides, it was right there in the image URL.)
"Go ahead and overachieve, you scrappy Brett-Favre-colored walk-takers." —Rev Halofan
I think the Redsox just joined the Cabrera/Wuertz Sweepstakes.
Step right up, folks.
The meaning of life is not so much 'found,' as it is 'made.' --Opus
Don't be shy....
"You may glory in a team triumphant, but you fall in love with a team in defeat."--The Boys of Summer
That’s what she said.
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by Rated-R Superstar on Jul 28, 2009 10:27 PM PDT up reply actions
You won't believe your eyes....
Before your time I think. Your generation is truly lacking in the genre of music.
"You may glory in a team triumphant, but you fall in love with a team in defeat."--The Boys of Summer
I listen to old school hip hop mostly.
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by Rated-R Superstar on Jul 28, 2009 10:32 PM PDT up reply actions
Is there such a thing already?
"You may glory in a team triumphant, but you fall in love with a team in defeat."--The Boys of Summer
I guess it is if you count KRS-One, Rakim and Big Daddy Kane.
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by Rated-R Superstar on Jul 28, 2009 10:33 PM PDT up reply actions
Well then....
I don’t. I thought they were still current. I’m still waiting for rap to go the way of disco.
"You may glory in a team triumphant, but you fall in love with a team in defeat."--The Boys of Summer
Rap has outlasted virtually every other genre of music.
Most music trends seem to only last 5-10 years at most. Rap has been going strong for at least 15 years.
witty remark
Erm...
There’s kind of that whole “rock and roll” genre that’s been around for 50 years…
"I’m Joey Devine, I’m what Joba Chamberlain would be if he was good and nobody had ever heard of him."
lol so true.
Jazz also says hi!
Dating girls is like starting pitching depth, you think you have a good full rotation, even too many starters, then in an instant as soon as you trade your depth away injuries decimate your rotation and you are forced to start Sidney Ponson.
by designatedforassignment on Jul 29, 2009 10:23 AM PDT up reply actions
country here
>waves at dtownmbrown<
PREPAREDNESS_Because those goddamn zombies aren’t going to kill themselves
Yeah though we all wish that one would go away :-P
Dating girls is like starting pitching depth, you think you have a good full rotation, even too many starters, then in an instant as soon as you trade your depth away injuries decimate your rotation and you are forced to start Sidney Ponson.
by designatedforassignment on Jul 29, 2009 10:48 AM PDT up reply actions
I meant trends.. I worded it as genre, but I didn't mean it like that. My bad.
Jazz, Blues, Rock n Roll are not trends.
Although, within RnR many styles have fluctuated, starting with blues, turning into rockabilly which spawned country, then “rock and roll”, classic rock, heavy metal, you get the point.
I was referring more to the disco trend, the new wave trend, the pop punk trend, the grunge trend, the emo trend, etc…
Hip Hop came, and I’m sure many thought it would fade away much like disco did, or grunge did, but it has stuck around for a long time.
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by dtownmbrown on Jul 29, 2009 12:18 PM PDT up reply actions
Am I the only one here who differentiates between
“hip hop” and “rap”? I’m not an expert by any means, but to me they’re different in a very specific way that makes me like one and dislike the other.
"Go ahead and overachieve, you scrappy Brett-Favre-colored walk-takers." —Rev Halofan
Hip hop was what they used to call it, so it’s referred to as “old school hip hop” instead “old school rap” because that’s what it was.
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by Rated-R Superstar on Jul 29, 2009 12:51 PM PDT up reply actions
I don't know how they use the terms now,
but back in my day, “rap” indicated that the focus is on the voice and the lyrics, and the other stuff is just light accompaniment to keep the beat. “Hip hop”, on the other hand, is all about the noize, and the vocal is just a bit of flavor on top.
It’s all right there in the names. Rap = talk = vocal. Hip hop = dance = loud beat.
As a general rule, my favorite musical styles are those that emphasize the beauty of the human voice. (That’s also why I like country better than rock or jazz.)
"Go ahead and overachieve, you scrappy Brett-Favre-colored walk-takers." —Rev Halofan
That goes along with the way I have always percieved it.
Hip Hop has always seemed like it started out as a broader art form, focused around dance, beats, and outside influences, then vocalists rapped to hip hop music, then Rap became something more about the rhymes and the words.
Shit if I know, though, I don’t really listen to it a whole lot. Blues is my music.
witty remark
that's not old enough to be considered old school
old school is like Warren G, ODB, et al
"Do I talk to myself? No, I just remind myself of what I'm trying to do. You know, I never answer myself so how can I be talking to myself?" - Rickey
by cuppingmaster on Jul 28, 2009 10:35 PM PDT up reply actions
Even mid-’90s hip hop (Biggie, early Nas, early Tupac and early Jay-Z) is considered “old school” by some.
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by Rated-R Superstar on Jul 28, 2009 10:35 PM PDT up reply actions
i used to listen
now i’m hooked on NPR and “Wait wait”
"Do I talk to myself? No, I just remind myself of what I'm trying to do. You know, I never answer myself so how can I be talking to myself?" - Rickey
by cuppingmaster on Jul 28, 2009 10:38 PM PDT up reply actions
ugh
I hate the perception that such things are old school….
I wore a public enemy tee shirt to work and this young kid said, “Flavor Flav, isn’t that the guy with a show on VH1?”
le sigh
le mFing sigh.
[b]More Rajai Davis & less mount Davis[/b]
Does Rajai Davis know Al Davis?
by Athletics fan and runner on Jul 29, 2009 4:44 AM PDT up reply actions
Here were mine
I can’t believe I used to listen to that crap, (I was 14 at the time)
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boo
by the time you’re in college, you’ll have quite the AN-themed education in dating the fairer sex
"Do I talk to myself? No, I just remind myself of what I'm trying to do. You know, I never answer myself so how can I be talking to myself?" - Rickey
by cuppingmaster on Jul 28, 2009 10:57 PM PDT up reply actions
I will probably still fail.
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by Rated-R Superstar on Jul 28, 2009 10:58 PM PDT up reply actions
grow your hair long without washing it
learn how to play guitar poorly, stop shaving, and wear vintage/ironic t-shirts. guaranteed to get laid in the first month.
actually, all you really need is the guitar…
"Do I talk to myself? No, I just remind myself of what I'm trying to do. You know, I never answer myself so how can I be talking to myself?" - Rickey
by cuppingmaster on Jul 28, 2009 11:02 PM PDT up reply actions
The best part about women
is you can keep trying. There’s a LOT of em.
"I’m Joey Devine, I’m what Joba Chamberlain would be if he was good and nobody had ever heard of him."
And to top it off....
one is bound to say “yes” sooner or later. That’s what I love about them.
"You may glory in a team triumphant, but you fall in love with a team in defeat."--The Boys of Summer
better living through chemistry, I always say.
"I’m Joey Devine, I’m what Joba Chamberlain would be if he was good and nobody had ever heard of him."
And the Dow eventually
rises. Always. If not, they make a pill.
"You may glory in a team triumphant, but you fall in love with a team in defeat."--The Boys of Summer
If not
There are buildings in New York to jump off of.
Many buildings.
"I feel like we are sending Danny Haren for Mulder all over again." - Cardinal fan on the Matt Holliday trade
"But at this time of year, two plus two doesn't always add up to eight. Sometimes, it equals four." - Geoff Baker, Mariners beat writer.
Unfortunately...
I don’t have that kind of money.
"You may glory in a team triumphant, but you fall in love with a team in defeat."--The Boys of Summer
Is THAT your nickname for it?
“The Dow?” Who are you dating, Anne Coulter?
The meaning of life is not so much 'found,' as it is 'made.' --Opus
by The Dogfather on Jul 29, 2009 7:20 AM PDT up reply actions
This had to come up in the game threads....
but Everidge? In Fenway? How could he be nicknamed anything other than “Tommy Knocker”?
"You may glory in a team triumphant, but you fall in love with a team in defeat."--The Boys of Summer
BTW...the Dogs and Cats living together line was awesome
"Bobby Crosby at third is a bit of an adventure. And not like, here’s some hidden treasure, what fun. More like, gah! poison ants!" --alea iacta est
Anyone here in MN?
Just found I’ll be in Minneapolis for work in time to see the A’s play in early sept. For once a cool work trip! Woo hoo.
AN midwest day?
"Do I talk to myself? No, I just remind myself of what I'm trying to do. You know, I never answer myself so how can I be talking to myself?" - Rickey
Rewatching the 9th inning rally again.
A couple of things I noticed:
Everidge actually got some props from Pedroia at 2nd base after his blast that almost went out. Very cool…but I still don’t like that little terd.
The other thing-The Sox absolutely went to sleep on defense and Papeldong was totally spooked on the mound, especially after Everidge hit his blast. When Raj got the tying run in JP went as pale as the first time he got shut down by a pretty looking girl.
And I f****ng love it!
Zeigler to Geren…."A-Rod? He’s my bitch." -alox
325+ comments and not a single flamewar?
What the hell is wrong with you people?
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Great recap...
…but what in the WORLD happened to the thread! It’s chaos in here!
"Bobby Crosby at third is a bit of an adventure. And not like, here’s some hidden treasure, what fun. More like, gah! poison ants!" --alea iacta est
by baseballgirl on Jul 28, 2009 11:45 PM PDT up reply actions
It’s probably my fault.
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by Rated-R Superstar on Jul 28, 2009 11:50 PM PDT up reply actions
Damn right.
"I’m Joey Devine, I’m what Joba Chamberlain would be if he was good and nobody had ever heard of him."
GREEN MONSTER.
I don’t know, maybe someone already thought of this (I haven’t had chance to read all the comments), but if I was from Beantown, that’s what I would call Nick Green: THE GREEN MONSTER. Perhaps it’s to become his new “Nick” name?
(SFX: Jack Nicholson in “Easy Rider” making that nick-nick-nick-nick-nick sound.)
20 wins in a row! Will it ever happen again?
Salt Lake's Sean O'Sullivan no-hit the River Cats tonight
All he allowed was a walk to Cliff Pennington leading off the seventh.
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Then we need to call up Cliff.
He’s screwing up the Cat’s.
"You may glory in a team triumphant, but you fall in love with a team in defeat."--The Boys of Summer
That’s depressing.
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by Rated-R Superstar on Jul 29, 2009 12:03 AM PDT up reply actions
Better it happens to Sacramento than Oakland
Though if I didn’t have the game thread tonight I probably would have been there.
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Why didn’t Buck play?
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by Rated-R Superstar on Jul 29, 2009 12:18 AM PDT up reply actions
they hate him
"I’m Joey Devine, I’m what Joba Chamberlain would be if he was good and nobody had ever heard of him."
Chris Carter needs to get called up to Triple-A.
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by Rated-R Superstar on Jul 29, 2009 12:39 AM PDT up reply actions
Boston just upgraded their offer for Halladay.
Supposedly their offer is:
Buchholz
one of Masterson, Bowden, Lars Anderson
lower prospect
"I’m Joey Devine, I’m what Joba Chamberlain would be if he was good and nobody had ever heard of him."
I don’t think Halladay is getting dealt.
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by Rated-R Superstar on Jul 29, 2009 12:39 AM PDT up reply actions
That's a really hard deal to refuse.
"I’m Joey Devine, I’m what Joba Chamberlain would be if he was good and nobody had ever heard of him."
Well, I think they’ll refuse it.
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by Rated-R Superstar on Jul 29, 2009 12:52 AM PDT up reply actions
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