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DLD 7/27 - Duchscherer pitches!



Justin Duchscherer's season started yesterday with 2 perfect innings in A ball.  It' very encouraging  to say the least.

The Twins and A's aren't close on a Cabrera deal.  Apparently the Twins players really want O-Cab.

This is just my own speculation, but would the Phillies trade Jason Donald for Dallas Braden?  If so, would it be a good deal for the A's?  Perhaps Weurtz would net Donald.

Dump...  dump.... dump away...

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It seems Barton is hurt and will may miss the game tonight vs. Boston...

(hamstring injury)

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by MMunoz33 on Jul 27, 2009 7:32 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Probably from that stretch in yesterday's game... yyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyouch!!!

"I'm not going to buy my kids an encyclopedia. Let them walk to school like I did." -Yogi Berra

by brenarlo on Jul 27, 2009 7:33 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

thanks for posting the DLD 7/27 today!!!!

"I occasionally post and offer little to no insight here on AN except emotional ramblings. Do I remind you of someone? (Nomar maybe?)"

by MMunoz33 on Jul 27, 2009 7:38 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

+ a million

Long live the DLD (ironic since the typical DLD lifespan is less than one day)

"No matter what I talk about, I always get back to baseball." - Connie Mack

by GoA's on Jul 27, 2009 9:10 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

That play was the top web gem on Baseball Tonight

Which redeemed the number 4 choice: Derek “No Range” Jeter. Not only did he scoop up a ball rolling his way, he even did his job flipping the ball to Cano properly. Honestly, I think it’s in the ESPN rules that the A’s only get a highlight if the opposing team has already been shown doing something superior.

"No matter what I talk about, I always get back to baseball." - Connie Mack

by GoA's on Jul 27, 2009 9:09 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

My favorite this season

(and I’m by no means a regular watcher) was the night Jacoby Ellsbury caught 10 or so fairly nondescript fly outs. Yes, let’s include him in the web gems because his pitcher tossed a lot of fly out balls.

I hate ESPN.

To their credit, the other day when we came back on the Twins, we were the lead story on ESPN immediately following. Of course, when they included that game in a montague of a “wild and crazy week” by Kurkijan this past weekend, they just repeatedly showed how whats-his-name was safe on the final out of the game.

A real Poppy Palace would have a lot more chocolate, and a moat with otters. -Poppy

by Leopold Bloom on Jul 27, 2009 10:53 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

'Tis but thy name that is my enemy.

What’s montague? it is nor hand, nor foot,
Nor arm, nor face, nor any other part
Belonging to a man.

"Go ahead and overachieve, you scrappy Brett-Favre-colored walk-takers." —Rev Halofan

by iglew on Jul 27, 2009 1:29 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

My favorite Pete Rose quote is

“F**k you, Shakespeare!”

"Flea Markets aren't just for blind dates anymore!"- The Reverend Billy Lard

by Gaijin_Suketto on Jul 27, 2009 2:09 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

iglew, have you ever watched Deadwood?

A real Poppy Palace would have a lot more chocolate, and a moat with otters. -Poppy

by Leopold Bloom on Jul 27, 2009 2:50 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

He don't remember

And don‘t act fu**in’ entitled!

by Joey C. on Jul 27, 2009 3:09 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I love you.

A real Poppy Palace would have a lot more chocolate, and a moat with otters. -Poppy

by Leopold Bloom on Jul 28, 2009 7:30 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

No, is that a TV show?

"Go ahead and overachieve, you scrappy Brett-Favre-colored walk-takers." —Rev Halofan

by iglew on Jul 27, 2009 5:56 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

yes, and you need to.

Except it probably won’t be in syndication anytime soon, unless they can come up with a stranger in the Alps for cocksucker.

A real Poppy Palace would have a lot more chocolate, and a moat with otters. -Poppy

by Leopold Bloom on Jul 28, 2009 7:31 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

What is it with that show

and the word cocksucker? Did people even use that term back then?

Anyway, it’s still an awesome show.

by humdinger on Jul 28, 2009 2:21 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Oh dear. Geren apparently asked him if he was ok to go today and

Barton said he’d tell him in the morning – he should consult Buck before answering that question honestly, he doesn’t want to be banished to Sac-town.

Some motherfcukers are always trying to ice skate uphill - Blade.

by OldhamA on Jul 27, 2009 10:55 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

The A's would be giving up too much in a Braden for McDonald trade.

I don’t think the A’s want to lose any of their current starters. It looks like Beane is only dealing those players he can replace from within. Wuertz and O’Cab are replacable, Braden is not, at least not at this time. Once FDLS and Outman come back then he would be available if they are 100%

"Whether you think you can, or you think you can't, either way, YOU'RE RIGHT !"

by Eastbayjim on Jul 27, 2009 7:34 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Donald is basically crap anyways

He’s not going to stick at SS and he’s an (almost) 25 year old who’s not hitting at AAA.

The monster at the end of this blog.

by grover on Jul 27, 2009 6:05 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

+1, Donald blows, Weurtz is more valuable.

by PL78 on Jul 28, 2009 11:07 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

You know

I have heard a lot of bad things about me on this thread, but this one is the worst.

Oh, different Donald. Proceed.

I'm here to talk about the past.

by 67MARQUEZ on Jul 29, 2009 8:01 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Saw this site from a link on someone else's sidebar

Many of you probably know of it already — perhaps from another DLD even.

http://www.hittrackeronline.com/

One of the things I found particularly enjoyable is checking out the HRs that were hit based on the speed of which they came off the bat (SOB). This site has links to video clips (you have to further search for the day these HRs were hit) where you can watch some of the best taters.

by LowcountryJoe on Jul 27, 2009 7:47 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Question of the day; Is Bobby Crosby playing MLB in 3 years?

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by MMunoz33 on Jul 27, 2009 7:47 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Yes as a utility player for someone.

Some motherfcukers are always trying to ice skate uphill - Blade.

by OldhamA on Jul 27, 2009 7:59 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

+1000

"I occasionally post and offer little to no insight here on AN except emotional ramblings. Do I remind you of someone? (Nomar maybe?)"

by MMunoz33 on Jul 27, 2009 10:11 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

+1

"You know, a long time ago being crazy meant something. Nowadays everybody's crazy."

-Charles Manson

by kaweahkaweah on Jul 27, 2009 9:53 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'm sorry, but that question has NOTHING to do with counters.

A real Poppy Palace would have a lot more chocolate, and a moat with otters. -Poppy

by Leopold Bloom on Jul 27, 2009 10:54 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I bought a Crosby jersey yesterday at Target.

It was 7 dollars. I could not resist. There was part of me that wanted it so I can wear it in 3 years and people will say “Oh, sh*t, I remember that guy”, then look sad.

It was half off. I wish we could similarly discount Crosby’s contract.

PS- I was completely sober

by mikedaviswhereareyou on Jul 27, 2009 11:37 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I did that once at Sears with a Timmy jersey.

but I actually liked Timmy. you’re sick.

A real Poppy Palace would have a lot more chocolate, and a moat with otters. -Poppy

by Leopold Bloom on Jul 27, 2009 12:16 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I do the same thing

at Marshalls.

I’ve got Zito, Swisher, Bradley (!!!), and Street that way.

Bob Geren, on 8/2/07, on the success of Alan Embree as new interim closer: "What can I say,... he's been our Steady Tremendous Bullpen Man"

by popcornjames on Jul 27, 2009 1:08 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Gneiss comment Ice Cream

"No matter what I talk about, I always get back to baseball." - Connie Mack

by GoA's on Jul 27, 2009 1:02 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

this is reminding of something....

A real Poppy Palace would have a lot more chocolate, and a moat with otters. -Poppy

by Leopold Bloom on Jul 27, 2009 2:43 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I would have cobbled something together had I known

about this sub-thread.

alaska A residing in northern Idaho.

by ak_A on Jul 27, 2009 10:15 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

You don't have to cave to peer pressure like that

"No matter what I talk about, I always get back to baseball." - Connie Mack

by GoA's on Jul 28, 2009 2:31 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Hey, you!

Coming to AN Day?

Nico: Okay. We have twelve hours to make a really big pickle.

by pam5981 on Jul 27, 2009 2:44 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Hey, back atcha!

Most probably.

Vanilla Orange Swirl

by Ice Cream on Jul 27, 2009 3:27 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Sweet.

I’m bringing a little present for you and McFood (you have to drag him along with you).

Nico: Okay. We have twelve hours to make a really big pickle.

by pam5981 on Jul 27, 2009 3:48 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

QOTM

will crosby spread his legs so far apart at bat that the games will have to be rated nc-17 -- emperor nobody

by day-to-day on Jul 27, 2009 5:40 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

It's Donald not McDonald

Jason Donald

"just a beating heart ... plasma that we'll put into our uniform." - Billy Beane

by athleticsBB4life on Jul 27, 2009 8:00 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Oops.

"I'm not going to buy my kids an encyclopedia. Let them walk to school like I did." -Yogi Berra

by brenarlo on Jul 27, 2009 8:10 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Fixed.

"I'm not going to buy my kids an encyclopedia. Let them walk to school like I did." -Yogi Berra

by brenarlo on Jul 27, 2009 8:11 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Old Donald doesn't work as well as Old McDonald.

Plus, you can’t go to Donald’s for a quarter pounder. Well, you can, but it’s not the same. Plus, he’s more partial to elephant than hamburger.

A real Poppy Palace would have a lot more chocolate, and a moat with otters. -Poppy

by Leopold Bloom on Jul 27, 2009 8:45 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

It's McDaniel's, not McDonalds...

…these rhymes are…eh, nevermind

by LowcountryJoe on Jul 27, 2009 9:08 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Did you know

They make burgers all the time in the minors, but they never have the proper seasoning to make a lasting impression.

"No matter what I talk about, I always get back to baseball." - Connie Mack

by GoA's on Jul 27, 2009 9:21 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

He didn't have a farm either.

Some motherfcukers are always trying to ice skate uphill - Blade.

by OldhamA on Jul 27, 2009 10:57 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

on Cabrera...

what does BB expect to get for him?

Is he trying to make-up for the loss of the 2nd rd. pick?

Is he trying to create a bidding war?

At this point, the pick is a sunk cost and I would think there would be more value in giving Pennington the last 60 games at SS. Although, if O-Cab is gone – my guess is that Crosby becomes the starting SS again, ughhh!!!

"just a beating heart ... plasma that we'll put into our uniform." - Billy Beane

by athleticsBB4life on Jul 27, 2009 8:05 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Beane is going to try to improve the team and if O-Cab is drawing interest

then Beane will try to create some market for him.

I think Beane accepted that the entire 2009 season(old veteran signings to create offense) is a sunk cost IMO.

If Beane can get anything for Cabrera, then he will be thrilled!

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by MMunoz33 on Jul 27, 2009 10:16 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Not to be a wet blanket, but what's the big deal about Duke pitching?

He’s not going to be any sort of meaningful help this year and the team isn’t in contention.

IF he does come back and start a few games, he’s just showcasing himself for a FA contract after the season, and let’s be honest — everybody who can throw the ball gets a deal somewhere.

Unless he’s A) going to be traded before the deadline, or B) going to sign a good faith 1 year deal for next season to prove he’s healthy, I’m just not excited about him coming back. He’s not providing the team with anything, really, aside from a few innings chewed up that keep MAC/Braden’s innings pitched a tad lower this year.

"I’m Joey Devine, I’m what Joba Chamberlain would be if he was good and nobody had ever heard of him."

by mikev on Jul 27, 2009 8:27 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Because of Duke's contract and because of his health problems...

he’d probably pass through waivers and would be a candidate to be traded at the end of August. If he can pitch effectively for a month, why wouldn’t a team like the Dodgers, Rangers, Phillies, Angels, Rays, or Yankees send over a so-so prospect for him?

Is he a Type A or Type B player?

"I'm not going to buy my kids an encyclopedia. Let them walk to school like I did." -Yogi Berra

by brenarlo on Jul 27, 2009 8:50 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

cough Brewers

by JetSam on Jul 27, 2009 10:37 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'd be shocked if he was a Type A player considering he hasn't played all year.

Some motherfcukers are always trying to ice skate uphill - Blade.

by OldhamA on Jul 27, 2009 10:57 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Frankly I just like watching the guy pitch.

If I get another few chances to do that this season, then it’s a little bonus in a stinker of a season.

by oblique on Jul 27, 2009 9:09 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

true...

"I occasionally post and offer little to no insight here on AN except emotional ramblings. Do I remind you of someone? (Nomar maybe?)"

by MMunoz33 on Jul 27, 2009 10:17 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

+2

I’m gonna buy his t-shirt the next time I see it because I figure that that is the most return on my investment I can get, in terms of Letters-Per-T-Shirt-Dollar.

Bob Geren, on 8/2/07, on the success of Alan Embree as new interim closer: "What can I say,... he's been our Steady Tremendous Bullpen Man"

by popcornjames on Jul 27, 2009 1:11 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Because we like players we like to be able to play baseball

and not sit on the DL.

It's the fans that make the game fun. -- Rickey Henderson, July 26, 2009.

by Englishmajor on Jul 27, 2009 9:12 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

This

Other than his disturbing preference for the A’s black jerseys, I can’t think of anything I don’t like about Duke.

"And Julio Franco is batting right-handed!" -- Wayne Hagin, A's radio play-by-play, mid-80s

by Nick on Jul 27, 2009 9:26 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

On a more vindictive note

I’m hoping that Duke, Dallas, and Brett pull off a three game sweep of the slegnA, dropping them out of contention and handing the AL West to Texas.

"No matter what I talk about, I always get back to baseball." - Connie Mack

by GoA's on Jul 27, 2009 9:26 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Those "few innings chewed up" are important.

Duke is going to help preserve the young starters, either by stretching out the rotation so we can give extra days rest to those who need it, or by being a second long man in the pen, so we don’t have to leave a guy hung out to dry when he implodes early and EGon was already used in yesterday’s implosion.

Just yesterday there was a complaint about how we don’t have enough long relievers in our pen. That’s what Duke can be.

"Go ahead and overachieve, you scrappy Brett-Favre-colored walk-takers." —Rev Halofan

by iglew on Jul 27, 2009 10:18 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Selig might lift ban on Pete Rose(but can only be voted in HOF by veterans comitte)

I feel indifferent about this. He has like 4,000 hits…He bet on baseball… He did that as a manager… He ruined Fosse’s carrer… He was a gamer…
I say let him in based on his play.
http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=4358260

HILLIS

by robbo650 on Jul 27, 2009 8:41 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

no

Rose bet on baseball games he was managing – in fact, he managed according to how he bet. Baseball players and managers have had it drilled into them that gambling on baseball, accepting bribes, etc, is not to be tolerated for one second. Rose needs to be banned permanently in order to keep the message intact.

"If Vin Mazzaro comes anywhere near me with shaving cream he’s gonna be coming away with a bloody stump" – Dallas Braden

by doctorK on Jul 27, 2009 9:53 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

You can't seperate the two

His actions as a manager poisoned his legacy as a player.

"If Vin Mazzaro comes anywhere near me with shaving cream he’s gonna be coming away with a bloody stump" – Dallas Braden

by doctorK on Jul 27, 2009 10:00 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

If as reported

that many influential HOF’s want him then sobeit. They are prepared to forgive him or give him another chance.

I have watched this man on TV many times in interviews etc and I think the guy is a POS but I would still vote him in if I were given that choice.

My favorite team is a fucking embarrassment to all true A's fans and they make me sick to my stomach on an almost daily fucking basis. But being a true fan, I will ride this pathetic bunch of losers out and hope that they get better in 2010

by Trainman on Jul 27, 2009 10:10 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Reinstate him for HOF eligibility,

but never let him work in MLB again, unless it’s some foam peanut PR position for the Reds that has no contact with on-field personnel.

"Flea Markets aren't just for blind dates anymore!"- The Reverend Billy Lard

by Gaijin_Suketto on Jul 27, 2009 2:13 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

HOF, okay for his playing career.

But maybe a mention of his gambling and suspension in his player bio. But he shouldn’t be allowed to hold any position for an MLB team, not even as a peanut vendor outside the stadium.

by guapobob on Jul 27, 2009 3:30 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

If Ty Cobb is in, anyone is in, regardless of character

Rose’s numbers certainly justify his inclusion, and his infractions (and I cannot explain this) don’t affect me the same way as the ‘roiders do. I still don’t like what he did to Fosse, but the dude is a HOFer.

by Joey C. on Jul 27, 2009 3:13 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Actually, I believe gambling is the worst thing you can do

As big an SOB as Cobb was, and as dishonest as I believe the ‘roiders have been, I don’t think anything is as bad as betting on the outcome of a game you participate in, even if you’re betting to win.

by guapobob on Jul 27, 2009 3:33 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

+1

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Formerly Gallagher's Watermelons

by Player To Be Named Later on Jul 27, 2009 3:52 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I believe the idea...

is that if you are betting on your own team for certain games, you may care more about winning those specific games, and do things that will hurt your team’s chances in other games. You see what I’m saying? You may put all your eggs in one basket, e.g. wear out all your best pitchers in the game you bet on, and then hold them out of the games you don’t bet on.

"All your baserunner are belong to Greg Smith" ~ walk off bunt

by Philip Christy on Jul 27, 2009 4:15 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Gotcha. Thanks.

Vanilla Orange Swirl

by Ice Cream on Jul 27, 2009 4:38 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Wow.

I just got schooled.

by lynnzgal on Jul 27, 2009 8:08 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Very articulate response.

JJ Martin
The best way to catch a knuckleball is to wait until the ball stops rolling and then pick it up. ~Bob Uecker

by JJ Martin on Jul 27, 2009 8:48 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Couldn't the same thing happen with a supposed "must-win" game at any point during the season?

It’s a solid point, but unless they’re throwing games I don’t see it as any worse than steroids, and Mark McGwire still gets to be on the ballot.

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Formerly Gallagher's Watermelons

by Player To Be Named Later on Jul 27, 2009 9:29 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

There's a difference

“Must Win” because we’re 1 game back in the standings and the team ahead of us lost — sure

“Must Win” because I put $5,000 on the team to win the game tonight — uh, no.

"I’m Joey Devine, I’m what Joba Chamberlain would be if he was good and nobody had ever heard of him."

by mikev on Jul 27, 2009 9:33 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Whats your position on Shoeless Jackson?

He “threw the WS” that he like 400 in with 3 jacks?

HILLIS

by robbo650 on Jul 27, 2009 9:13 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

well at some point

you’re in danger of having a HOF without some of the best players, like Clemens, Sosa, Palmeiro, Rose, McGwire. Is it really a HOF if you don’t have the best players?

Oh, but if I catch a line drive by a girl, that’s girl-on-girl action, the twiceness is eliminated, and it just counts once - gigglingone

by closetasfan on Jul 27, 2009 10:44 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

If they were caught cheating, yes.

Some motherfcukers are always trying to ice skate uphill - Blade.

by OldhamA on Jul 27, 2009 10:59 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'd like the list of players who *haven't* cheated.

I bet it’s smaller.

"I’m Joey Devine, I’m what Joba Chamberlain would be if he was good and nobody had ever heard of him."

by mikev on Jul 27, 2009 11:01 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Well let's not get silly.

Though that’s why I made the distinction, fair play to those that have managed to not get caught – after all, if you ain’t cheatin’, you ain’t tryin’.

Some motherfcukers are always trying to ice skate uphill - Blade.

by OldhamA on Jul 27, 2009 11:04 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Eh, that's the big problem I've always had with steroids though.

Steroids: Not OK, scourge of the earth, BANNED1 NO HALL OF FAME FOR YOU!

Stealing signs: Gamesmanship

Bat corking: ehh….

Scuffing the baseball: gamesmanship

Amphetamines: Part of the game

It bugs the shit out of me that there are “acceptable” levels of cheating. Either you cheat or you don’t, right? Apparently not.

"I’m Joey Devine, I’m what Joba Chamberlain would be if he was good and nobody had ever heard of him."

by mikev on Jul 27, 2009 11:09 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

It's much easier if you just accept they're all cheating.

On that though, I’ve always been puzzled by the sliding hard into second base/trying to decapitate the catcher plays being acceptable – at the end of the day you’re essentially trying to injure a fellow professional.

Some motherfcukers are always trying to ice skate uphill - Blade.

by OldhamA on Jul 27, 2009 11:11 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

It's the last vestige of the old 1800's game,

when throwing blocks and hip checks at runners as they ran around the bases was legal and tolerated.

"Flea Markets aren't just for blind dates anymore!"- The Reverend Billy Lard

by Gaijin_Suketto on Jul 27, 2009 2:15 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

here's a shocker

Stealing candy bars doesn’t carry the same punishment as running a boiler room operation stealing old lady’s money. The kids who steal candy bars are usually not punished, the con artists do time.

by JetSam on Jul 27, 2009 11:51 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

That's totally the same.

Great analogy.

"I’m Joey Devine, I’m what Joba Chamberlain would be if he was good and nobody had ever heard of him."

by mikev on Jul 27, 2009 11:54 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

swelling your body like a cartoon character

and scuffing a ball aren’t the same. The analogy works fine. You wanted to know why cheating is treated differently and its obvious.

by JetSam on Jul 27, 2009 12:00 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

It worked for Mike Morse and FP Santangelo!

Those guys were fuckin HUGE!

"I’m Joey Devine, I’m what Joba Chamberlain would be if he was good and nobody had ever heard of him."

by mikev on Jul 27, 2009 12:14 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I tend to agree with your point

Even if it is just a liiiiiiiiiiiiiittle flip.

by Joey C. on Jul 27, 2009 6:06 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

If that's the case, our pitchers should start scuffing the baseball!

Since it’s not that big a deal…

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by Player To Be Named Later on Jul 27, 2009 9:30 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

dont forget moving home plate closer,

painting the foul lines in a bit, soaking the basepaths with water….

I’m with you mikev.

Bob Geren, on 8/2/07, on the success of Alan Embree as new interim closer: "What can I say,... he's been our Steady Tremendous Bullpen Man"

by popcornjames on Jul 27, 2009 1:14 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

g**ddamn astigmatism!

I read the above line as “Soaking the basepaths with ether”

which is a great idea!

Baseball and ether, two great tastes that melt your brain together!

"Flea Markets aren't just for blind dates anymore!"- The Reverend Billy Lard

by Gaijin_Suketto on Jul 27, 2009 2:16 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

+1 fucking thousand

Nobody cares that Hank Aaron, Willie Mays, Mike Schmidt, and pretty much everyone in the 60s-80s took amphetamines, or that Babe Ruth used corked bats, or that Gaylord Perry illegally threw spitballs all the time, and did so openly, but fuck Barroids and Aroid for taking steroids!!

Solace: Law says he's a fourth OFer
PaulThomas: I think Keith Law is only a fourth analyst

by hero66 on Jul 27, 2009 4:20 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

The big problem is that Steroids have been used in sports since at least the mid 60s but since no one has fessed up to using them in Baseball it really didn't exist until the late 80s

Who is to say that the HOFers from the 60s, 70s and early 80s didn’t juice?

"Whether you think you can, or you think you can't, either way, YOU'RE RIGHT !"

by Eastbayjim on Jul 27, 2009 12:16 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

A lot of them abused painkillers, too...

rather than using HGH to recover, they used painkillers to play through the pain…

"Flea Markets aren't just for blind dates anymore!"- The Reverend Billy Lard

by Gaijin_Suketto on Jul 27, 2009 2:17 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

At this point, Donald is widely considered a AAAA player

Most think he’ll never become anything but a super-utility guy, so he’s probably not the answer you’re looking for at short.

by NateHST on Jul 27, 2009 9:09 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

These are not the utility players you're looking for

Move along

"No matter what I talk about, I always get back to baseball." - Connie Mack

by GoA's on Jul 27, 2009 9:26 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

QOTM-The Force Is With You Edition

PREPAREDNESS_Because those goddamn zombies aren’t going to kill themselves

by adragon on Jul 27, 2009 1:11 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Fair enough...

is there an organization with an almost-ready SS that needs a starting pitcher for the stretch run? How about the Rays? Bartlett seems to have that job nailed down for a few years. How about their SS prospects?

How about Cabrera and Braden for Lowrie plus others?

How about Cabrera and Braden for Hardy?

Just thinking out loud…

"I'm not going to buy my kids an encyclopedia. Let them walk to school like I did." -Yogi Berra

by brenarlo on Jul 27, 2009 9:33 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

PS - I'm not necessarily saying the A's should trade Braden...

I’m just wondering if he’ll have a very high value placed on him because of the number of teams looking for starting pitching.

"I'm not going to buy my kids an encyclopedia. Let them walk to school like I did." -Yogi Berra

by brenarlo on Jul 27, 2009 9:34 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Doug Glanville on Wait Wait... Don't Tell Me

If you don’t know, it’s a news quiz show on NPR. Glanville was a guest this week and gave a highly entertaining interview. I forgot what a charmer he is. He answers one of the great questions of the baseball fan: What exactly are you players chatting about all the time at 1st base?
Listen Here

"No matter what I talk about, I always get back to baseball." - Connie Mack

by GoA's on Jul 27, 2009 9:33 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

I caught that this weekend

I love Wait Wait and was pleasantly surprised to hear Glanville was the guest.

There is no gravity - the earth just sucks.

by JLeverenz on Jul 27, 2009 1:23 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Say hello to Idaho's newest A's fan.

Her name is Camas Mae, and I need to find her a little A’s shirt to show off.

by Elvez on Jul 27, 2009 9:35 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Congratulations!

I wish you and your family great joy and peace in the years ahead.

by Ray of Lite on Jul 27, 2009 9:46 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Beautiful!! Contratulations!!!

"And Julio Franco is batting right-handed!" -- Wayne Hagin, A's radio play-by-play, mid-80s

by Nick on Jul 27, 2009 9:52 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Awesome!

Congratulations. She is a beauty.

Nico: Okay. We have twelve hours to make a really big pickle.

by pam5981 on Jul 27, 2009 10:27 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

All babies look the same, I've never understood people saying that they're beautiful.

Having said that, congratulation Elvez.

Some motherfcukers are always trying to ice skate uphill - Blade.

by OldhamA on Jul 27, 2009 11:01 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

lol

What you fail to understand in your joyless myopia is that baseball is the key to life-- the Rosetta Stone, if you will. If you just understood baseball better all your other questions your, your... the, uh... the aliens, the conspiracies they would all, in their way be answered by the baseball gods.

by winchester5 on Jul 27, 2009 12:25 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Babies are beautiful even if they do look the same.

The Ultimate Opportunist

by Rated-R Superstar on Jul 27, 2009 12:27 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think this is the correct answer.

I also think it’s funny that when a bunch of men are all wearing tuxedos the women tell us how terrific we look. But in tuxedos we all look the same!

"Go ahead and overachieve, you scrappy Brett-Favre-colored walk-takers." —Rev Halofan

by iglew on Jul 27, 2009 1:36 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Not true.

Some of us look like fat penguins.

"You may glory in a team triumphant, but you fall in love with a team in defeat."--The Boys of Summer

by alox on Jul 28, 2009 10:08 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

FALSE
  1. looked like Bob Newhart
  2. looked like Andre the giant.

by Future Ed on Jul 27, 2009 12:31 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

PLZ.

Nico: Okay. We have twelve hours to make a really big pickle.

by pam5981 on Jul 27, 2009 3:49 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Aaaaw, congrats! :)

Prithee, be not perturbed by yon third bagger.

by Poppy on Jul 27, 2009 3:18 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

best wishes to the family's newest member!

alaska A residing in northern Idaho.

by ak_A on Jul 27, 2009 10:17 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

The dude wore a Ziggy shirt

while his wife (or girlfriend, or whatever) gave birth to his child. That’s the coolest thing I’ve ever heard.

by humdinger on Jul 28, 2009 2:29 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I decided this morning

<a href="http://www.lesinrocks.com/actualite/actu-article/article/najat-valaud-belkacem-du-ps-attendre-2011-pour-organiser-des-primaires-cest-trop-tard/?svc_mode=N&svc_campaign=nl&svc_partner=inrocks&estat_url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.lesinrocks.com%2Factualite%2Factu-article%2Farticle%2Fnajat-valaud-belkacem-du-ps-attendre-2011-pour-organiser-des-primaires-cest-trop-tard%2F" target="new">That I would move to Lyons and join the French socialist party.

I, er, like the politics.

Yes, that sounds convincing

by bobnothing on Jul 27, 2009 9:58 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Whoa man, link is NSFW!

"If Vin Mazzaro comes anywhere near me with shaving cream he’s gonna be coming away with a bloody stump" – Dallas Braden

by doctorK on Jul 27, 2009 10:02 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

ohhhh!

sorry, didn’t see that. yes, watch out, if you’re at work.

by bobnothing on Jul 27, 2009 10:20 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I imagine the boss would be more interested in the fact that you failed

to mention that you speak French on your resume.

Some motherfcukers are always trying to ice skate uphill - Blade.

by OldhamA on Jul 27, 2009 11:02 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

What if you work in France?

"I’m Joey Devine, I’m what Joba Chamberlain would be if he was good and nobody had ever heard of him."

by mikev on Jul 27, 2009 11:04 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Click on the link in August -- everyone in France is on vacation then

"And Julio Franco is batting right-handed!" -- Wayne Hagin, A's radio play-by-play, mid-80s

by Nick on Jul 27, 2009 11:11 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Nobody works in France. *rimshot*

Some motherfcukers are always trying to ice skate uphill - Blade.

by OldhamA on Jul 27, 2009 11:11 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Lance Armstrong works in France at least one month out of the year.

Here’s to another good tour and a return in 2010 Lance.

"No matter what I talk about, I always get back to baseball." - Connie Mack

by GoA's on Jul 28, 2009 2:36 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

kind of cool actually

You have to include smiley faces - Poppy
;- ) :- ) :-O : -> : -] : -}

by micdog2001 on Jul 28, 2009 12:40 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Many teams are pushing hard for Wuertz

http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/story/9858776/MLB-trade-deadline-buzz:-Monday’s-edition

Who would be the ideal realistic prospect to get for him?

"I'm not going to buy my kids an encyclopedia. Let them walk to school like I did." -Yogi Berra

by brenarlo on Jul 27, 2009 1:04 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Shortstop, please.

The Ultimate Opportunist

by Rated-R Superstar on Jul 27, 2009 1:16 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

SEAN RODRIGUEZ PLZ

"All your baserunner are belong to Greg Smith" ~ walk off bunt

by Philip Christy on Jul 27, 2009 1:18 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Wuertz for Halladay!!!!

"I occasionally post and offer little to no insight here on AN except emotional ramblings. Do I remind you of someone? (Nomar maybe?)"

by MMunoz33 on Jul 27, 2009 1:16 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I always say dream big

PREPAREDNESS_Because those goddamn zombies aren’t going to kill themselves

by adragon on Jul 27, 2009 1:17 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I always say dream ridiculously

"All your baserunner are belong to Greg Smith" ~ walk off bunt

by Philip Christy on Jul 27, 2009 1:19 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Weurtz for Wright, Reyes, and Beltran!!!

"I’m Joey Devine, I’m what Joba Chamberlain would be if he was good and nobody had ever heard of him."

by mikev on Jul 27, 2009 2:02 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

They might want to replace their 3B and SS

so we can send them Chavez and Crosby free of charge!!!

"I occasionally post and offer little to no insight here on AN except emotional ramblings. Do I remind you of someone? (Nomar maybe?)"

by MMunoz33 on Jul 27, 2009 2:04 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Free of charge?

That’s a 6 time gold glover and a Rookie of the Year winner who was tipped by THE Peter Gammons to be an MVP candidate.

Some motherfcukers are always trying to ice skate uphill - Blade.

by OldhamA on Jul 27, 2009 2:19 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Damn, now that you said that it makes sense... Chavez and Crosby to the Jays for Halladay

The Jays should probably throw in some cash too

"Whether you think you can, or you think you can't, either way, YOU'RE RIGHT !"

by Eastbayjim on Jul 27, 2009 3:21 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Any A's deals this weekend?

Driving up with my boys for Rickey weekend and see no deals for tickets on the A’s site.

Anyone in the Bay Area heard of any ticket deals for this weekend’s games?

Thanks

by easyraider on Jul 27, 2009 2:02 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

That's what I want.

But in response to easyraider, this deal was in the newsletter this morning.

Sat, Aug. 1 vs. Blue Jays @ 6:20 p.m.
Celebrate retirement of No. 24 on Saturday, August 1. Get 2 Plaza Level tickets for $24.24 with online code RICKEY. 10,000 fans in attendance will receive a Rickey Henderson Jersey, presented by Pepsi.

Good to keep an eye out on Facebook or Twitter these days – A’s Ticket Services has been posting deals/online codes recently.

Nico: Okay. We have twelve hours to make a really big pickle.

by pam5981 on Jul 27, 2009 2:47 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Here ya go for Friday...

This Friday, A’s discount tix offer just for tweeters. Use online code TWITTER for $10 Field Level tix Friday, July 31.

"Bobby Crosby at third is a bit of an adventure. And not like, here’s some hidden treasure, what fun. More like, gah! poison ants!" --alea iacta est

by baseballgirl on Jul 28, 2009 11:15 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Duchscherer

What is the mood around AN regarding Duke?

Offer him arbitration, trade him, try to re-sign him?

"I occasionally post and offer little to no insight here on AN except emotional ramblings. Do I remind you of someone? (Nomar maybe?)"

by MMunoz33 on Jul 27, 2009 2:25 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

One of those, yeah. :)

"I’m Joey Devine, I’m what Joba Chamberlain would be if he was good and nobody had ever heard of him."

by mikev on Jul 27, 2009 2:30 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Okay, I'm going with re-sign him and then build up his SP value and then Beane can trade him

"I occasionally post and offer little to no insight here on AN except emotional ramblings. Do I remind you of someone? (Nomar maybe?)"

by MMunoz33 on Jul 27, 2009 2:33 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Possibly.

There aren’t many other, better places that he could go.

Unfortunately, he’s on the wrong side of 30 and has never pitched a full season as a starter.

Whether he considers himself a starter or not, it sure seems like the bullpen is where he’s best suited.

"I’m Joey Devine, I’m what Joba Chamberlain would be if he was good and nobody had ever heard of him."

by mikev on Jul 27, 2009 2:35 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'd say none of the above

Offer him arbitration and there’s a strong possibility he accepts. I like Duke as much as the next guy but he’s just not worth the money he’ll get in arbitration. His injuries have started piling up the past few seasons and any solid performance he gives us will probably be offset by some injury that shelves him for a few months.

"Their batters are patient to the point that it's annoying." -Ryan Franklin

by Helloooo 1st on Jul 27, 2009 6:56 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

how much is he going to get in Arb being injured all year in a depressed market? he will be lucky to pitch 30 innings this year

I would say no more and maybe less than the 4 million he got after pitching a 2.54 in his 22 starts last year.

3-4 million is a lot of money? the A’s have only $20 million locked up in non arb-eligible players next year, 30 million total and 45 million if we sign an equal amount of FA $ as last year which would still be a lower payroll than any year since 2002.

 AND we have only 4 million locked up in non-arb’s payroll the next year after that (the Yankee’s have 120 Million just to case you wondered) . We can afford to take a chance on him coming around and being even half healthy. We can afford to take more than one 4 Million dollar chance actually.

 I’m not saying we will ever get more than 22 starts out of him, but if we only do get a max of 22 starts a year his career 3.14 ERA would be worth it for 3-4 million. And if he’s healthy and putting up avg career numbers going into the trade deadline next year I’m sure the return in prospects would be healthy and well worth the risk for another team in contention at that point. I mean look what we got for Blanton last year who was 5-12, 4.96. Sure Blanton was durable but 4.96 in Oakland?

"Gratuitous gesticulating together sounds even better"

by OmahaHi on Jul 28, 2009 12:31 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

You're probably right about the salary stuff

I just don’t think he’ll ever be able to handle a starter’s workload, especially since he’s not getting any younger. Then there’s the whole thing about him going back to the bullpen but of course $4 million is far too much to pay for a ’pen arm who will probably miss a lot of time.

We have a lot of young starters and young relievers who need time in the rotation and the Duke will only take up a spot when he is in there. There are a lot of better ways to spend the money we would pay him, most notably on offense. Every single penny this offseason should be spent on trying to get some good, young offense in Oakland.

"Their batters are patient to the point that it's annoying." -Ryan Franklin

by Helloooo 1st on Jul 28, 2009 7:18 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Very Long article on Billy Beane om ESPN front page

http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/otl/columns/story?columnist=bryant_howard&id=4357166

“I’m looking up there and I’m seeing ‘Cust, .233; Holliday, .274; Giambi, .206; Cabrera, .234; Crosby, .197,’” he says, “and yes, their on-base percentages, except for Cabrera, who never walks, are high. But these guys can’t hit.”

The scout believes it hasn’t happened yet in any totality, but predicts another layer of revolution: Even the way players are being taught how to hit will be altered by too much analysis.

“Ever since we learned how to play this game, we were told ‘You can’t bunt your way to the big leagues. You can’t walk your way to the big leagues.’ Now, in the big leagues, we’re getting to a point where 0-0, 1-0 and 2-0 counts may not necessarily be hitters’ counts anymore,” the scout says. "If you take this thing too far, you’ll have hitters more concerned with seeing pitches than hitting pitches

Exactly what I have been saying all season (the bold part)

My favorite team is a fucking embarrassment to all true A's fans and they make me sick to my stomach on an almost daily fucking basis. But being a true fan, I will ride this pathetic bunch of losers out and hope that they get better in 2010

by Trainman on Jul 27, 2009 2:37 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

:)

Yes you have been! (bold part)

"I occasionally post and offer little to no insight here on AN except emotional ramblings. Do I remind you of someone? (Nomar maybe?)"

by MMunoz33 on Jul 27, 2009 2:52 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I saw that picture in the artcle and thought to myself, “My dad has the same Bluetooth as Billy does.”

The Ultimate Opportunist

by Rated-R Superstar on Jul 27, 2009 3:04 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

wait a minute...

your dad’s Billy Beane?!

A real Poppy Palace would have a lot more chocolate, and a moat with otters. -Poppy

by Leopold Bloom on Jul 28, 2009 7:35 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

As far as "over-analyzing" goes,

I wonder what the good folks of AN think about “hitting RH vs LH pitchers” numbers.

For example, whenever I hear, “Travis Buck is out of the lineup tonight because he’s terrible against LH pitching” (maybe not the best example!), I tend to think that if you keep out guys who have poor numbers against LH pitching, you are skewing the numbers to be even worse for that batter – the player never gets a chance to improve those numbers if he’s never given the opportunity, if you follow me there.
 
It seems like if one is deemed “unable to hit lefties” under this philosophy, he’ll never even have the opportunity to scrub off this Scarlett Letter – am I way off base here or what??

Bob Geren, on 8/2/07, on the success of Alan Embree as new interim closer: "What can I say,... he's been our Steady Tremendous Bullpen Man"

by popcornjames on Jul 27, 2009 3:50 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

i would give a younger player more leeway to try and improve but a vet that has proven over time he cant hit one or the other no

and the younger player would get less leeway if your in a race. I think overall platooning works for the most part . For instance, Kennedy hits .544 OPS vr Left and .853 vr right. I would go with the stats there and sit him just about every time if I had an alternative with reversed numbers.

"Gratuitous gesticulating together sounds even better"

by OmahaHi on Jul 27, 2009 4:42 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I guess the crux of the question...

… is when one becomes the other, yeah?

by Joey C. on Jul 28, 2009 12:40 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

See..

Bobby Kielty….

"Twenty minutes," says Jack Sr. "Thank god for Billy Beane."

"Any fan that wants us to do that is going to be disappointed because that just isn’t us." - Wolff

"Joe Morgan's going to think Beane wrote the movie too..." -whitshoes40

"What am I going to do, seriously? Maybe be a bouncer at strip joints. That's about all I'm qualified to do." -Giambi

by ST on Jul 27, 2009 10:19 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Thanks for posting

I particularly enjoyed the supposed dialoge between Beane and Justice. That’s classic!

by LowcountryJoe on Jul 27, 2009 5:12 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

DLD 7/27 Memo to B.Beane; Re-sign Duke

Harden and Mulder!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

sincerely,

Me

"I occasionally post and offer little to no insight here on AN except emotional ramblings. Do I remind you of someone? (Nomar maybe?)"

by MMunoz33 on Jul 27, 2009 3:21 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

I'm off to take my Zoloft

then going to watch the A’s play the red-sox and check in and out of the Cardinals/Dodgers game…

"I occasionally post and offer little to no insight here on AN except emotional ramblings. Do I remind you of someone? (Nomar maybe?)"

by MMunoz33 on Jul 27, 2009 3:24 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

rotoworld says barton to go on the 15day DL and Everidge hitting .337 could be called up

what about if he’s hitting .382? bring him up now

"Gratuitous gesticulating together sounds even better"

by OmahaHi on Jul 27, 2009 3:42 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Mt. Everidge? sweet

"Gratuitous gesticulating together sounds even better"

by OmahaHi on Jul 28, 2009 12:34 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

So we're now relying on his Everidge talent level to carry the team?

"No matter what I talk about, I always get back to baseball." - Connie Mack

by GoA's on Jul 28, 2009 2:41 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

That's a nice nickname actually. Wonder if it could stick

Oh, but if I catch a line drive by a girl, that’s girl-on-girl action, the twiceness is eliminated, and it just counts once - gigglingone

by closetasfan on Jul 28, 2009 6:34 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

In the game threads the noun would become a verb

and there would be debate over the advisability of it.

"Go ahead and overachieve, you scrappy Brett-Favre-colored walk-takers." —Rev Halofan

by iglew on Jul 28, 2009 8:57 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Fascinating

From the ESPN article on Beane linked above:


What he cannot handle is the idea that the outside opportunities have diminished his enthusiasm for his day job. He hears that from people close to him, from reporters who cover the club and believe his visibility correlates to the number of wins his team has, and from rival general managers across the country — that his rock-star exploits (Beane once went to New Zealand on a speaking engagement during spring training) dwarf the ambitions of baseball’s rank and file.

I always hated the argument that many have made that Beane is not focusing on baseball.

by ohmangoAs on Jul 28, 2009 4:57 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

yep

I'm here to talk about the past.

by 67MARQUEZ on Jul 28, 2009 9:21 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

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