Talkin' Baseball with Pinstripe Alley
I have little confession to make. It's no big deal, really. Ok, here goes.
I don't hate the Yankees.
{opens eyes}
Hey, where is everybody?
Now before you break out the 67M voodoo doll (yeah right, like you don't have one), I didn't say that I like the Yankees. I just don't overly despise them.
Yeah, I get the whole Evil Empire thing, the outrageous payroll, "OMG! Jeter!", and all that jazz. My heart was crushed the same as yours in 2000 and 2001 (and for you older folks, in 1981, too). I have lamented the exodus of homegrown stars to the Big Apple: Reggie, Catfish, Rickey (who was traded there), and Giambi. (This "tradition" actually began in the late fifties when the Kansas City A's were the Yankees' unofficial farm club).
It sickens me to no end to see their fans invade the Coliseum, just as it does when that other American League East team comes to town. But I know of at least one Yankee fan with a sense of humor:
Before Game 1 of the 2000 ALDS, my cousins and I were spread out over the top two rows of a section in the third deck. A guy in a Yankee hat made his way down the aisle where I was sitting, stopped, looked at his ticket, looked at me, and said somewhat smugly, "You're in my seat." To which I calmly replied, "You're in my stadium." And the guy in the Yankee hat, well he laughed.
I am an A's fan first, and a baseball fan second, but the baseball fan in me can't help but marvel at the history that oozes from a town where Sinatra says, if you can make it there, you can make it anywhere. We are talking about some of the greatest players to ever set foot on a diamond. I will spare you the details, but I let's just say I know more than I should. Now excuse me while I go cleanse myself.
Athletics Nation had an opportunity to talk baseball with Ed Valentine from Pinstripe Alley:
67M: The A's are not exactly catching the Yankees at the right time, as they are undefeated since the Break (6-0). What's been key to this latest surge?
EV: Simple. Pitching, pitching and more pitching. These numbers are from Peter Abraham, one of the Yankee beat writers. They don't include Wednesday's 6-4 victory (7 solid innings from A.J. Burnett), but they get the point across:
45 innings, 35 hits, 10 runs, 9 earned runs, 18 walks, 37 strikeouts.
67M: Any tasty trade deadline rumors to snack on?
EV: Pretty quiet in Yankee-land. Roy Halladay won't be a Yankee. I wouldn't be surprised to see the team add a veteran starter w/Chien-Ming Wang down, or a bullpen arm and move Alfredo Aceves into the rotation. No big rumors, though.
67M: The Yankee Mystique that has seemed to exist forever, but has been on hiatus of late, appears to be creeping back, what with all those late-inning victories this season (tied with Texas for most walk-off homeruns). Obviously there is nothing to that really (or is there?) but you have to like that the team is using all of its outs.
EV: This team battles. They know how good they are, they know they can hit and they know that especially in the Little League field known as Yankee Stadium a comeback is only a swing or two away.
67M: Perceptions are a funny thing, and in sports they run amok. Like how Dodger fans show up late, and leave early. I might already have an idea (in fact I might have answered the first part with my next question), but what would you say is the biggest perception of the Yankees as an organization, and their fan base?
EV: Easy. Everyone hates the Yankees; that's part of the territory. Lots of money, and willing to spend it. Lots of tradition, and willing to flaunt it in your face. As for fans, many Yankee-haters would describe Yankee fans as "arrogant, entitled idiots." I'd use a stronger word, but I'm going for the PG version. And, in all honesty, Yankee fans can be their own worst enemies. There is without doubt a section of fans who are "arrogant, entitled idiots." Not all, but they are vocal and they are the fans that others associate with the Yankees.
I wonder what he would think of my interview with Ed.
67M: Yes the Yankees can open their wallets whenever they want, but surely there is some satisfaction that the core group from their latest dynasty came up through the system: Jeter, Rivera, Williams, Posada, et al. Who are tomorrow's stars?
EV: Joba Chamberlain and Phil Hughes are at the top of that list. Austin Jackson is an outfielder at AAA who should be in the mix next season. Jesus Montero is the No. 1 prospect. He is just 19 and tearing up AA, though he might only be a DH. A lot of young players out of the system have contributed this year, and that does make it satisfying.
67M: Clearly the Red Sox have caught up to- and in recent years- even passed the Yankees in terms of on-field success. From a fan standpoint, does it take some of the fun away not having 1918 to hold over their heads, or does it does just spice up the rivalry? After all, it's not really a rivalry when one team is always coming out on top, right?
EV: Ouch! 'When one team is always coming out on top,' hurts. Have you seen the standings? But, yes, you are correct. The Red Sox have had the upper hand in recent years, and things have changed. It's not the same, and it's not as much fun as it was always knowing you could get the final word in an argument with a Red Sox fan. Quick story, which makes a long answer. Took my son, who was 9, to Fenway in 1999, sitting in the right-field seats we heard the "Yankees suck" chant go up. Told my son to stand up, turn around and start yelling "1918" at the fans. He did, even though he didn't know what it meant. All the Red Sox fans immediately shut up. That went on for the entire game. Sadly, I can no longer play that card.
(I actually meant it wasn't a really rivalry when the Yankees had outscored the Sox 26-0 in World Series titles from 1918 to 2003.)
67M: But really now, you guys are aware that we play baseball on the West Coast, too...right?
EV: West ... Coast ... baseball? Heard vaguely that there are a few teams out there the Yanks and Red Sox use as schedule filler, that's all. A joke, a joke. Hope your readers don't kill me!
67M: The tradition of Oakland fan favorites defecting to the Big Apple continues. What are your thoughts on Nick Swisher (who I realize took an indirect route to NY), the player, as well as the personality?
EV: Swisher is ... umm ... different. You know that already. Can't remember a guy the Yanks have ever had like him. Love his attitude, love his energy, his desire, his hustle, his bat, the walks he draws. That said, at some point in just about every game I want to reach through the TV and kill him. He is one of the world's most bone-headed base runners, he can make a great catch or look like a butcher out in the outfield, and his judgment is ... questionable. Like the time he decided to run up the right field wall (yes, up the wall) to high-five fans at the start of a game. Of course, he fell and damn near killed himself coming down.
67M: Joe Torre was such an icon during his time in the Yankee dugout. I read how Hal Steinbrenner gave a little reminder to current manager Joe Girardi as to what's at stake (as if he needed one). How do you think he's done so far?
EV: Girardi had a rough rookie season as manager. The team, of course, didn't make the playoffs. I am not pinning that on him, since I didn't think he was dealt a good hand. He had lots of problems with relating to the media, and to some players last season. He has been much better with everyone this season, and he will have to be to stay in New York long-term. Of course, bottom line is no playoffs means a new manager in 2010.
67M: The Yankees last won it all in 2000. What does that translate to in non-Yankee years?
EV: Well, that depends. The entitled Yankee fan would say it's equivalent to dog years, probably. Or, it feels like a century. Or, we are suffering worse than Cubs' fans. I remember the dark years, though. It stinks, because I thought the Yanks could have won a couple of those years, but the fact is most Yankee fans did not truly appreciate how amazing what the team did in the late '90s really was.
Tim Hudson's masterpiece put the Yankees in an 0-2 hole in the 2001 ALDS. (Sigh).
67M: Admit it, we scared you a little bit in 2000 and '01 (God, that feels like forever ago).
EV: Scared? A Yankee fan scared? Only of losing to the Mets. We've already lost to the Red Sox and survived. Besides, we have Derek Jeter. Why should we be scared of the A's? Again, a joke.
Ok, I lied. I do hate the Yankees. (Thanks for your time, Ed).
First pitch comes at you at around 4:05. Vin Mazzaro, who grew up a Yankees fan, takes on CC Sabathia, who hails from Vallejo.
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I don't really hate the Yankees per se
They take advantage of the system that is, in many ways, designed to make sure that they never have another down season again. Whereas our team has to rebuild because of budget constraints and many others will, teams like the Red Sox, Yankees and Angels have enough dough to be sure that they don’t have to rebuild. That’s not to say that they don’t have good minor league systems because their systems are good, but they aren’t forced to deal their best players once their cheap years are over.
Oh and I do hate what the Yankees put me through with the whole Jeter play, etc.
by Tyler Bleszinski on Jul 23, 2009 12:06 AM PDT reply actions
This^
The big money teams can look ludicrous though when their big names go down.
See: 2009 Mets
Is this the real life-
Is this just fantasy-
Caught in a landslide-
No escape from reality-
It'll be interesting to see what happens to '12 and '13 Yankees
In ‘12, Burnett will be 35, Rodriquez 36, Sabathia 31, and Texeira 31. Will they be able to continue to perform up to their salaries? Burnett will make $16.5M, Rodriguez $29M, Sabathia $21M, and Texeira $23M for a total of $91M from four players. ’13 is much the same; all are one year older but at least in that year, Rodriguez comes at a $1M discount over the previous year — He’ll only make $28M that year @ 37 years old.
by LowcountryJoe on Jul 23, 2009 6:33 AM PDT up reply actions
Ouch
37 years old + 28 mil + bad hip = FAIL
And it gets worse then that…………
Alex Rodriguez 3b
10 years/$275M (2008-17)
* 10 years/$275M (2008-17)
o re-signed by Yankees as a free agent 12/13/07
o $10M signing bonus ($2M paid upon approval, $1M paid each Jan. 15, 2009-2013, $3M paid Jan. 15, 2014)
o 08:$27M, 09:$32M, 10:$32M, 11:$31M, 12:$29M, 13:$28M, 14:$25M, 15:$21M, 16:$20M, 17:$20M
o $30M marketing agreement based on home run milestones ($6M each for reaching 660, 714, 755 and tying and breaking major league HR record)
o no-trade protection
o perks: may purchase 4 best available season tickets for 2008, 4 Legends Suite or comparable season tickets for 2009-17
$20 mil at 41 y.o PLUS another $6 if he hits one of his millstone milestones that year. Ugly.
Cashman obviously didn’t think he’d be GM that far into the future.
Is this the real life-
Is this just fantasy-
Caught in a landslide-
No escape from reality-
Cashman obviously didn’t think he’d be GM that far into the future.
It wasn’t an arm’s length transaction there was a conflict of interest. Isn’t it obvious that Rodriguez is the ‘Cashman’
by LowcountryJoe on Jul 23, 2009 7:17 AM PDT up reply actions
All your cash belong to Rodriguez.....
What do you even do with that much money?
Is this the real life-
Is this just fantasy-
Caught in a landslide-
No escape from reality-
Um...
What do you even do with that much money?
…Give It 2 Me?!
by LowcountryJoe on Jul 23, 2009 7:44 AM PDT up reply actions
People that ask what you can do with that much money
are usually people who are self-confident enough not to surround their fragile egos with status symbols and can be just as happy in a Ford as in a Ferrari…
"Flea Markets aren't just for blind dates anymore!"- The Reverend Billy Lard
by Gaijin_Suketto on Jul 23, 2009 2:17 PM PDT up reply actions
Well
I keep my Ferrari inside my Ford Valdez, so I get both!
yeah
then again, he’s a juicer, so he’ll probably have a Bondsian late career lol.
Damn, 6 M for a bloody home run?
more money than a ML minimum salary for how many years?
Thank you, steroids.
by MobiusKlein on Jul 23, 2009 10:05 AM PDT up reply actions
Had it not been for his admission of PED usage...
…all the buzz and money spent on the Yankees would more than pay for itself. As it is, it’s still probably going to pay for itself if it were to happen.
by LowcountryJoe on Jul 23, 2009 10:18 AM PDT up reply actions
Damn Jeter play
Giambi stepped over the tag
Formerly Gallagher's Watermelons, until Beane gave up on Gallagher. It makes sense though...Gallagher = Player To Be Named Later = me!
by CaliforniaJag on Jul 23, 2009 2:09 AM PDT up reply actions
MLB ecology
Major league baseball is an environment in which there are several ecological niches to be occupied, but the sort of success that forms teams’ strategies is not success on the field but economic success. Being the big-spending perennial favorite is a good strategy for success, but it’s not the only one. A team can thrive as a perennial loser, whether with a large budget or a small one. Many teams follow the boom-and-bust strategy, some with greater extremes than others. Some teams try to do the opposite and be borderline contenders year after year. That has been the A’s strategy in the current era, and I believe it still is, in spite of the current down period.
But just as in an ecosystem, there is only room for so many inhabitants in a single niche. If every team followed the Yankee strategy, it would not work for all of them. The competition for the same niche would bankrupt those that lose. Less intuitively, but just as true, it wouldn’t work for every team to follow the "lovable loser" strategy either. There is value to be had in seeking out the under-occupied niche, and so the leagues sort themselves out so that there is always a nice balance. Teams don’t necessarily hold their identity over the long-term. The Orioles and the Royals were not always perennial losers (that niche was once filled by the Mariners and the Rays); the Angels and the Red Sox were not always big-money teams.
My point is that even though the Yankees have long held the position of most popular team with the most money to spend, it does not automatically follow that they are "taking advantage of the system" any more than the Baltimore Orioles or Florida Marlins are – just as being on the top of the food chain does not mean the lion is taking advantage of the African ecosystem any more than, say, the aardvark.
"Go ahead and overachieve, you scrappy Brett-Favre-colored walk-takers." —Rev Halofan
The only teams I really hate are the Giants and Angels.
Also, I’m surprised the Yankees blog is as quiet as it is.
The Ultimate Opportunist
by Rated-R Superstar on Jul 23, 2009 12:36 AM PDT reply actions
thats because there are others, I guess notably River Ave Blues
Oh, but if I catch a line drive by a girl, that’s girl-on-girl action, the twiceness is eliminated, and it just counts once - gigglingone
If only Blez had been able to go national just a bit sooner...
Then again, he did hit a good window. A lot of the SB nation blogs are the most trafficked for their particular teams.
"Flea Markets aren't just for blind dates anymore!"- The Reverend Billy Lard
by Gaijin_Suketto on Jul 23, 2009 2:19 PM PDT up reply actions
i respect their history, but the majority of their fans are too smug and arrogant. especially when they visit the colliseum. they push me off the franchise entirely.
"Especially when they visit the coliseum"?
Ever worn an A’s cap to Yankee stadium for a Yankees – A’s game?
They are ten times more arrogant and rude there than in Oakland. Honestly, they even make Red Sox fans look good (and that’s saying a lot).
There is no "i" in Teamocil. At least not where you'd think.
by GreenNGoldSooner on Jul 23, 2009 12:47 PM PDT up reply actions
My lone trip to Yankee Stadium I wore my A's hat
and actually made FRIENDS with my bleacher creature neighbors…it was surreal but they were nice people.
I know, I know…small sample size.
But just like with any stereotype, they’re not 100% true.
witty remark
The only game I went to
I sat in the bleachers. Against the California Angels. Some woman in a halo cap got chased down the tunnel by another woman. It was kind of frightening.
I lived in the Boston area for five years and central NJ for 9 years
So I’ve been to a mess of A’s games at both Fenway and Yankee Stadium.
In my experience, Red Sox fans are generally worse fans. They’re more drunk. They pay less attention to what’s going on in the game. They’re more obnoxious to the opposing players. But Yankees fans are more hostile to fans of the opposing team (an exception being for Yankees fans at Fenway, which is another story).
Couple notes on these observations: I went to the bulk of my Fenway games in 1986, 1987, and 1988. My Yankee stadium experience was later (1989-1994). In Fenway, I almost always sat in the bleachers (and the only time I didn’t wasn’t for an A’s game). At Yankee Stadium I never sat in the bleachers. That seating reflects another fact about these two teams at these two times. These were pretty good years for the Red Sox and Fenway was usually packed. My years going to Yankee games were among the worst half decades in Yankees history. The park was rarely full (especially for the A’s). The fans were more diehard and more bitter than the folks I was at Fenway with.
Side note: One of the benefits of going to Yankee Stadium when the Yankees sucked was that their fanbase was fairweather and great tickets could be gotten just before the game. I once sat in a field box directly behind homeplate surrounded by advance scouts from other teams. Spent the whole game eavesdropping as these guys talked baseball. A wonderful experience!
There is no "i" in Teamocil. At least not where you'd think.
by GreenNGoldSooner on Jul 23, 2009 4:51 PM PDT up reply actions
Put a mask on!
Just kidding.
I’ve never ever been a Yankees fan. as a child in NY I was a Mets fan. That said, it’s the Sux and their fans who most disgust me.
by OaklandSi on Jul 23, 2009 3:48 AM PDT via mobile reply actions
Yeah.. all the nouveaux arrives Red Sox fans really get to me with their faux blue collar schtick
Yanks fans, whilst a bit annoying because their team always wins, do at least seem to have a sense of baseball history, and whatnot.
Possibly because that history involves them winning, but hey.
Something I’d be interested to know from a Yanks fan would be whether their are a little ashamed / embarrassed that their new stadium is a bit of a joke
i hate the "arrogant, entitled idiots" more than the yankees themselves
if it wasn’t for that segment of their fandom, i wouldn’t look at them any differently than the pittsburgh pirates. a lot of yankee fans are just so smug that it’s fun to watch them be miserable and come up with excuse after excuse. living in the NYC suburbs has made it pretty unbearable. when you see people who honestly think that being a fan of a certain team makes them more important or better than you, it is vomit-inducing.
the thing that does annoy me about the franchise is that there’s really no accountability for bad moves. let me explain: the A’s have been handcuffed by their (in hindsight) terrible contracts given to chavez and crosby. it has hindered our ability to pay other quality people to play important positions. when the yankees make a mistake signing somebody to huge money and the guy doesn’t pan out (pavano, brown, etc), it doesn’t matter. they just go sign somebody else. they can indulge every stupid impulse, and if it doesn’t work out, they’ll just pay someone else. and a lot of that ability has to do with playing in the biggest market in the country. just their location guarantees them tons of money from merchandise and tv (gotta hand it to stein on that one, though, YES was an awesome play) that they’ll be fine even if they suck. other teams have to earn their franchise income based on merit and other teams have to be careful and judicious in the way they spend their money, or else they’re hosed.
so i kind of respect the team now with the way it’s being run, but the fans still kill me.
btw – anybody going tonight? i can’t remember my seat number… but i’ll have flashfire’s Ziegler shirt on!
Cashman
This is why I don’t understand why Cashman is considered a Top GM. Give any baseball guy 200M to work with annually, and I’ll show a “fairly” succesful GM.
by Colorado Fan on Jul 23, 2009 7:09 AM PDT up reply actions
ehhh
Steve Phillips says hi.
To be fair. when Cashman actually started to call the shots (2005 or so). the Yankees hands were pretty bad for a 200M club. they had no farm. they had the corpse of Bernie Williams. and a historically bad defensive team (check out the UZR # for the 05 team. it’s hilarious). , oh and their only semi respectable pitchers were both really really old.
Of course he had some luck, Cano and Wang (And to a lesser extend . Cabrera) turnd out to be much better players than their minor league # would suggest. and he had some seriously good luck in the 06 draft . and he was able to make some salary dump trade that really worked out for them (Abreu for example)
I admit
If the A’s don’t win (not really a matter of IF this year) I want the Yankees to win. That’s mostly because I’m NYCer. They also had one of my favorite players, though they traded him away :(
Nice when they play the Yankees, about the only time I get to see the A’s play
Oh, but if I catch a line drive by a girl, that’s girl-on-girl action, the twiceness is eliminated, and it just counts once - gigglingone
I miss Huddy so bad. Mostly because of his “What, b*tch?” demeaner and I’m pretty sure he’d buzz his grandmama’s tower if she was crowding the plate.
"We lose to Stanford in many sports, but if you want to make a Cal team quit, bring a weapon."
--Coach Clark
we need some of that on today's team
PREPAREDNESS_Because those goddamn zombies aren’t going to kill themselves
I actually follow the Yanks
more than any other team save the A’s. My wife and daughters love them, but they are nominal fans at best. Truth be told, they’re more Jeter fans than Yankee fans. I don’t get that. Although it seems Swisher is giving him a run in my house lately. My middle daughter met him at A’s fanfest a few years ago and thought he was hilarious. I’m impressed with Yankee lore, especially because the early period of baseball fascinates me.
I don’t mind most Yankee fans either. The ones I’ve met at the Coli have been jovial, mainly because you can be that way when your team is consistently good. The RS fans on the other hand induce fits of rage.
"You may glory in a team triumphant, but you fall in love with a team in defeat."--The Boys of Summer
I get the feeling
when I see Yankees gear its half “I have a connection to NY” and half yankee fan.
When I see the other’s gear the wearer thinks s/he is rooting for the underdog and thinks manny is funny.
I'm fine with they yankees themselves
its the fans who generally piss me off. I live in a suburb of NYC, and a large amount of them are idiots. Just try telling them Jeter’s a bad fielder.
"Sometimes Joe (morgan) doesn't like facts to get in the way of his opinions."- billy beane
"That was a great pick...if this was 2002" Me, to guy who selected Barry Zito in a fantasy draft
www.27ClubPeak.blogspot.com
Just checking the rumor mill....
And Slu reports that the Cardinals may give up Wallace for Holliday. Is this a deal we would want? I don’t know much about the guy, but apparently he plays third base and he’s a living entity. That would be refreshing to have on the team.
"You may glory in a team triumphant, but you fall in love with a team in defeat."--The Boys of Summer
there is some concern that he may not stick at 3B
and may end up being more of a 1B/DH type. If so, his value for the A’s would drop.
That's a few years down the road though.
He would likely be able to play 3B for at least his first couple seasons.
Besides, if Pablo Sandoval can stick at third, Wallace can stick at third. Just don’t let the kid eat carbs.
"I’m Joey Devine, I’m what Joba Chamberlain would be if he was good and nobody had ever heard of him."
my god he's got a big butt...
dude looks like a speed skater…
If we get him, I sure hope he sticks to a strict conditioning program, because he looks like a series of hamstring injuries waiting to happen…
"Flea Markets aren't just for blind dates anymore!"- The Reverend Billy Lard
by Gaijin_Suketto on Jul 23, 2009 2:24 PM PDT up reply actions
it's still
better than what a mid first round trade and a sandwitch draft generally turns out to be though.
+0.67318
(still formulating)
"Flea Markets aren't just for blind dates anymore!"- The Reverend Billy Lard
by Gaijin_Suketto on Jul 23, 2009 2:25 PM PDT up reply actions
MLB.com
This morning, they reported that the Angels are interested in Holliday and are willing to part with someone who could help on the left side of the infield. I’m hoping that means Wood, but guessing it means a member of the grounds crew. I can’t find the link to the article now.
oh wait, here it is
And my reading comprehension isn’t what it should be. They didn’t say the Angels were specifically interested, only that they “might be able to provide the help on the left side of the infield that Oakland so badly needs.”
Well I, for one, *DO* hate the Yankees.
"I’m Joey Devine, I’m what Joba Chamberlain would be if he was good and nobody had ever heard of him."
by mikev on Jul 23, 2009 8:49 AM PDT reply actions 1 recs
Me Too
And I come from a long line of Yankee haters. My dad hated the Yankees growing up, and so did my granddad. We’ve been Yankee haters pretty much as long as we’ve been Americans. It’s a proud family tradition!
There is no "i" in Teamocil. At least not where you'd think.
by GreenNGoldSooner on Jul 23, 2009 12:48 PM PDT up reply actions
I wish the older generations in my family liked baseball,
but no, they liked cars and guns and shooting guns out of cars, at least until the sheriff put a stop to it…
"Flea Markets aren't just for blind dates anymore!"- The Reverend Billy Lard
by Gaijin_Suketto on Jul 23, 2009 2:26 PM PDT up reply actions
I hate 'em too
It isn’t a seething, white-hot burning hatred like I have for the Giants or Angels, but the hatred is certainly there.
by coffee roaster on Jul 23, 2009 2:54 PM PDT up reply actions
Red Sox Fans
Are worse than Yankee fans. But, both rank at the bottom of my fan scale.
I totally agree with you!
Yankees fans have “been there before” and Red Sox fans don’t know how to handle the teams success with any class. Yankee fans at the Coliseum are much more bearable to me. Barely.
Awww, Swisher!
In general, I don’t mind our big-name veterans moving on to the Yankees. It seems like a natural process, like growing up. But with Swisher, it’s not. Some personalities just belong with certain teams, and Swish just doesn’t fit as a Yankee. EV’s comments above just confirm that.
"Go ahead and overachieve, you scrappy Brett-Favre-colored walk-takers." —Rev Halofan
Swish should be a late 70's early 80's
Montreal Expo…
Dick Williams, Bill Lee, and the sickest party town in North America!
"Flea Markets aren't just for blind dates anymore!"- The Reverend Billy Lard
by Gaijin_Suketto on Jul 23, 2009 2:28 PM PDT up reply actions
Why is everyone convinced Holiday
Will be a yankee next year? If he does sign and don pin-stripes: am curious what sorta 6 year deal he will be offered….
Damon is in his last year, no?
So they will have a spot for him. If I were the yankees I would think more about pitching and low ball Holliday for a relatively short period.
Bay is a free agent too.
Damon and Matsui are in last years.
"Their Triple-A rotation, led by Trevor Cahill and Brett Anderson, could be better than some big-league rotations; Michael Ynoa is the best Latin American prospect of the decade; 2008 draftees Jemile Weeks and Rashun Dixon bring much-needed tools to an advanced group of hitters." - BaseballProspectus.com
My confident prediction...
Holliday will be a Cardinal.
He wants to be a Cardinal.
He will sign with the Cardinals for as much as he can possibly get from them, but he won’t let Boras send him to the Yankees for more.
He’ll end up with the Cardinals whether we trade him there or not.
"Flea Markets aren't just for blind dates anymore!"- The Reverend Billy Lard
by Gaijin_Suketto on Jul 23, 2009 2:33 PM PDT up reply actions
Buehrle perfect thru 8.
I would have put this in the DLD thingy, but those have gone bye-bye.
I'm here to talk about the past.
Unbelievable play by Dwayne Wise...
…for out 1 in 9th.
Robbed a HR.
There is no "i" in Teamocil. At least not where you'd think.
by GreenNGoldSooner on Jul 23, 2009 1:10 PM PDT up reply actions
6-3 for out #3
And it’s a perfecto for Buehrle!
There is no "i" in Teamocil. At least not where you'd think.
by GreenNGoldSooner on Jul 23, 2009 1:13 PM PDT up reply actions
My favorite part?
glad you asked, I looked up the box score on YAHOO! they have the section for “Top batters” for each team. For the white sox Josh fields 1-3 HR. FOr the rays BJ Upton 0-3.
Seriously though this is not no hitting the padres or a’s, this ispretty cool.
Totally,
The Rays can hit and that makes this very cool.
Also, I heard some of Hawk’s calls. Man, that guy is pitiful.
Harrelson is a terrible announcer,
and the White Sox are my least favorite team and have been since I was a kid, because when I was a little kid and I read about the Black Sox scandal, Charlie Comiskey pissed me off so bad that I decided to never ever root for his team.
Later on, the White Sox hate was further cemented by the evil anti-FSU ushers at Comiskey that even blocked FSU’s in the ninth inning when 50% of the crowd had left anyway…
Plus, Buehrle’s truck is a garish joke. In honor of your great victory today, take a cab home from the park and don’t be seen in that thing, alright?
"Flea Markets aren't just for blind dates anymore!"- The Reverend Billy Lard
by Gaijin_Suketto on Jul 23, 2009 2:38 PM PDT up reply actions
WOW
100% Athletics, 100% Baseball. 2009 Athletics, 40% Baseball.
And to think we were discussing about no-nos and perfect games earlier this week
o_O
100% Athletics, 100% Baseball. 2009 Athletics, 40% Baseball.
Ks Hernandez for Out 2
Hawk’s strickout call still grates!
There is no "i" in Teamocil. At least not where you'd think.
by GreenNGoldSooner on Jul 23, 2009 1:11 PM PDT reply actions
I hate just about everything related to the Yankees
Most especially the “fans.” These “fans” are distinguishable from fans. “Fans” are difficult to identify, as they can blend in with very well with fans. “Fans” wear the same hats and jerseys as any fan, but they live in places like Provo, Utah, cannot name any other current Yankee player besides Joba-Teixeira(butcan’tspellTeixeira)-Jeter-Rodriguez, and they have no actual connection to the New York area (although they will have some half-assed story about their grandfather smelling Staten Island once).
I also cannot stand about 30% of their current roster and 100% of its front office/ownership. But do I have to hear about them from every sports outlet, usually as the lead story? You bet your bottom dollar!
In conclusion, I hate the goddamn Yankees.
Well, in their defense,
99% of people who don’t claim to be Yankee fans can’t spell “Teixeira” either
"Go ahead and overachieve, you scrappy Brett-Favre-colored walk-takers." —Rev Halofan
99% of people can't spell Teixeira at all.
"I’m Joey Devine, I’m what Joba Chamberlain would be if he was good and nobody had ever heard of him."
I just have to tell you...
…your previews are AWESOME! I love seeing these before a series.
"Bobby Crosby at third is a bit of an adventure. And not like, here’s some hidden treasure, what fun. More like, gah! poison ants!" --alea iacta est
Susan Slusser says the game is probably going to be another "rain out"
Said that it’s pouring
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/blogs/athletics/index
My favorite team is a fucking embarrassment to all true A's fans and they make me sick to my stomach on an almost daily fucking basis. But being a true fan, I will ride this pathetic bunch of losers out and hope that they get better in 2010
Yes. It has been raining all day near NY, and it doesn't look like its going to stop anytime soon.
I live just south of NYC in Jersey, and It is pouring.
What you fail to understand in your joyless myopia is that baseball is the key to life-- the Rosetta Stone, if you will. If you just understood baseball better all your other questions your, your... the, uh... the aliens, the conspiracies they would all, in their way be answered by the baseball gods.
KK just said they still hope/plan to get it in rather than a day/night double-header.
After all, today is a make up for an earlier rain out, right?
I'm not sure about that, but It is still raining verrry hard near NYC.
What you fail to understand in your joyless myopia is that baseball is the key to life-- the Rosetta Stone, if you will. If you just understood baseball better all your other questions your, your... the, uh... the aliens, the conspiracies they would all, in their way be answered by the baseball gods.
Has a makeup game from a previous rained out game ever been rained out?
I mean, besides one that may have happened the next day or something.
What do you mean you don’t know?
I'm here to talk about the past.
I bet a rain out game thread gets a good number of comments tonight.
Nico: Okay. We have twelve hours to make a really big pickle.
DL Landon if it's a double header tomorrow?
Or does he “tough it out” for a game.
Nico: Okay. We have twelve hours to make a really big pickle.
I say start him the first game and see how long he can go.
Every inning he plays is one less inning Zooks has to play tomorrow.
Bring Jerry back!
In case there's actually a game to play tonight
What’s that website that gives live streams of games again? I don’t have it saved to my laptop. :(
Rain has intensified yet again according to Korach and Cotroneo.
The Ultimate Opportunist
by Rated-R Superstar on Jul 23, 2009 4:12 PM PDT reply actions
Well if it's going to be rained out
I feel less bad about the game being blacked out for me in Oregon.
:(
I actually want this game to be rained out. I have to go in a few hours or so.
The Ultimate Opportunist
by Rated-R Superstar on Jul 23, 2009 4:19 PM PDT reply actions
It's nationally televised? Again??
Didn’t we just have that last week?
I’m going out tonight, so I’ll miss it again. Unless the rain delay pushes it far enough back to still be going at about 10:00 pm Pacific.
"Go ahead and overachieve, you scrappy Brett-Favre-colored walk-takers." —Rev Halofan

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